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http://variety.com/2017/film/opinion/james-cameron-shame-on-you-wonder-woman-patty-jenkins-1202542934/amp/
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>>87197005
He better not actually fucking apologize
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Ummmm sweetie? Don't you know you aren't allowed to criticize things?
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>(opinion)
The irony
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How about he apologizes for avatar instead?
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This whole shit, "people complained on social media" so its worth writing an article is fucking idiotic and the worst trend this century
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battle angel better be good
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This is the movie we aren't allowed to criticize
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>>87197093
Why?
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>>87197084
This. Fucking stupid bitch
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You'll get your apology when you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR
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>>87197128
Wtf is this shit? Is this the Wonder Women movie that's been praised to high heaven? It looks like the Sharknado guys made it.
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>>87197005
Truly /ourguy/
Avatar still sucks
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>>87197229
Yes
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>>87197005
>Laughs at Wonder Woman
>Praises Snyder
What's his endgame
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Hopefully this kills the unnecessary Avatar sequels before they happen.
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>>87197005
Libshit fucktard gets his comeuppeance. I see absolutely no issue with that.
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>>87197354
>Americans make everything about political affiliation

This is why your cunt is such a shithole
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>>87197305

>not choosing sides and blindly praising either DC or Marvel no matter what

Truly puzzling
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>>87197257
why do DC movies only have a 3 color budget of gray, blue-gray, and orange?
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>>87197354
You're such a fucking moron
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WHAT THE FUCK I LIKE JAMES CAMERON NOW?
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>>87197128
You are, but Cameron literally makes no sense.
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>>87197470
Because Marvel already took light-gray, washed-up -grey and airport-cgi-fight-gray.
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>>87197005
If opinion pieces were a race of people I'd wish they all got rounded up and gassed.
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>>87197005
>Put (Opinion) at the end of a headline
>Immediately free yourself from all criticism

James Cameron was voicing an opinion too, you know...
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>>87197084
thread should have stopped right here
also
>h-he's a j-jerk
>p-patriarchy
are not arguments nor logical points
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>>87197411
>>87197475
What? Cameron is the first one who would be screeching about female empowerment and feminism in any other situation, and now they turn against him at full force just because he voiced his own opinion and will likely have to make public apology. He is exactly who helped to foster such environment and I am supposed to feel pity for him? It is exactly like the circus with Whedon.
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>>87197831
Cry more faggot

>muh libruuuls!!!
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>>87197128
>>87197257
>green screen the movie
might as well just play vidya since its better immersion
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>>87197826
>not arguments nor logical points
And yet they can ruin your life and are enough to push the legislative change
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>>87197128
It's like they tried their hardest to copy snyder visuals but failed so hard it ended up looking like a pepsi commercial instead.
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>>87197123
that's not a cause only an excuse for propaganda to get written, nothing more
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>>87197233
0/10 you're just butthurt.
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>>87197864
I will be crying tears of laughter when Cameron stands on the stage and stutters ''I-I-I-I p-pledge my commitment to f-feminism and f-f-female empowerment. What I said as a w-white shitlord is unacceptable in m-modern society. I-it's 2017''
And then he cites the verse from Quoran.
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>criticize a lump of shit on the sidewalk

>w-w-what, a WOMAN squatted that out, I best reconsider
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>>87197831
This. Fuck cameron 2bqhwy
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Cameron is our lord and savior. The cinema god. Praise be JC
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>>87197005
Femenists are the next generation of keyboard warrior trolls. tghey spew as much shitposting bullshit as I do on 4chan because because being anonymous you can fuck around with saying any comment on here
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>>87197997
It's so fucking asinine. You say something negative about a woman and every screeching feminist harpy cunt takes personal offense on their behalf
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>>87197128
HAHAHAHAHAHA holy hell this is horrible
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>>87197005
>(((OPINION)))
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>>87197257
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>>87197093
how about you apologize for still being butthurt?
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>>87197047
This and it's not going to do him any good to do that btw.
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>>87197128
What's so bad about this? Seems pretty standard for capeshit, do you act like other capeshit is better than this? It's not.
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>>87198213
Fuck off with your emoji reaction images.
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I don't think we should criticise the poor ability of women to make a decent film, or better yet, a decent character. You have to understand that women aren't realistic in anyway. Wonder Woman is perfect, and that to women, is the ideal status of their sacred fantasies. And ironically with a twist, women know this isn't true, so they blame it on men to avoid responsibility for their retarded fantasies.
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>>87197005
>THIS JUST IN
>A DIRECTOR DIDN'T LIKE A MOVIE
>AND A BLOGGER DOESN'T LIKE THE DIRECTOR
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>>87197128
>I'M ACTING
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There's no fucking way this guy is going to apologise. James Cameron is a god damn psychopath - no one will believe him.

If he comes out and says sorry then that's all the evidence you need that this feminism shit is just an industry-wide act.
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>>87199077
What did xhe mean by this?
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>>87197128

What video game is this?
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>>87197093
Avatar is his third best movie.
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>>87197257

that is some embarrassingly bad cgi
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>>87199047
Agree. It's cartoonish cgi made for children and autistic virgin adults. People who get this upset need to remember they're not the target audience.
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>>87199410
>ALSO FUCK DONALD DRUMPF AND FUCK WHITE SINGLE MEN

ftf the both of you
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>>87197257
Isn't this whip meant to be a bondage thing that makes you vulnerable and tell the truth?

Not sure of its practical combat utility when battling the god of war.
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>>87199645
>There's no fucking way this guy is going to apologise. James Cameron is a god damn psychopath
This. Cameron's not the kind of guy who would apologize because someone wrote a two paragraph editorial telling him to.

And Cameron may have been kind of clunky about phrasing, but he was completely right. Jenkins made an incredibly mediocre movie that its studio decided to cynically attach political marketing to as a way of generating hype and getting positive reviews. It made no real positive statements about women, and heaping praise on it for merely being directed by, and starring, a woman is a giant step backwards.
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>>87199047
I just watched it the other night. The beginning is just boring, the whole first act up to where they leave paradise island.
It is poorly directed and edited on the whole, there is not a single action scene which does not frequently alternate between normal and slow motion in a very distracting manner for seemingly no reason at all.
To say that slow motion is overused in this film is a drastic understatement, it's borderline farcical.
Stupid music.
The premise that Wonder Woman finally achieved the victory against the baddies due to being inspired by the love of a man/humanity.
The casting of Wonder Woman herself, personal taste maybe but she is scrawny, her face looks weird with the hair tied back (it is for half the movie) and the accent is not exactly music to the ears.
It is a terrible film, it's just awful. If I had seen it in a theatre I would've walked out in the first 20 minutes, it really fails to capture early attention.
Fucking 1/10 I guess for spending all that money and explosions and shit.
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>>87197005
How many A list female directors are there?
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*heavily breathing*
APOGOLOGIZE RIGHT FUCKING OW
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>>87200201
>here is not a single action scene which does not frequently alternate between normal and slow motion in a very distracting manner
The action scenes in WW were probably the worst I've ever seen in a big-budget movie. Many of them are so poorly choreographed that it's almost laughable, because you can tell the actors don't really know what they're doing. Probably the funniest thing I remember from the movie was Ares magically getting a helmet that hides his face right before a fight scene. It's so obvious that they just had a stuntman do everything instead of Thewlis and just covered his face to try to fool people.
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>>87199893
>This. Cameron's not the kind of guy who would apologize because someone wrote a two paragraph editorial telling him to.

Cameron shilled Terminator Genysis, saying it was the best thing he'd ever seen and his original idea come to life.

Idealize him all you want but the guy wants money at the end of the day.
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>>87197257
post more ww webms
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IF'N UNTIL CAMERON EVER APOLOGIZES HE REMAINS BASED

YOU KNOW, HIS NEW TERMINATOR 3D RERELEASE WAS OPENING IN THEATERS JUST WHEN HE MADE THIS COMMENT

FREE ADVERTISING, JUST SHIT ON SOME OBJECTIVELY BAD MOVIE THAT THE MEDIA HAS BEEN CHEERLEADING FOR MONTHS DUE ITS POLITICS BECAUSE ITS WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW IN TRUMPS AMERICA #IMWITHHER

>>87200298
TRUMP NO!
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>>87200298
Oh no that sucks
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>strong woman according to James
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>another strong woman according to James
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>>87197005
James Cameron is known for more iconic empowered female characters in movies then fucking these shits and they think they can scream at him?

Christ he even made a empowered make believe blue cat bitch more empowered then "Wandar Waman"
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>>87200821
>>87200856
>strong woman according to modern feminists
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>tfw he'll never apologize because he literally doesn't give a single shit about the opinions of literal nobodies on the internet
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>>87200856
don't forget the strongest woman!
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>>87197005
>why
to sell his movie ya dumb bitch
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>>87197128
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>>87197005
Ughh.. I'm not going to watch a single Cameron film now.

Didn't know he was this sexist..

He's ruined.
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>>87200821
a true role model for women (and humanity, for that matter)

>>87200856
woman hardened by trauma, love and hope

>>87200950
>>87197257
>>87197128
female power fantasy
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>>87199638
top kek! what was the last thing supoosed to be though?
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>>87197257
*breathes in*
.............
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Cameron is 100% right though. His own "strong female" leads, like Ripley in Aliens and Sarah Connor in Terminator 1 / 2, were much better characters than that Wonder Woman. She's just a lame mary sue
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>>87201157
Neytiri a cute! Cute!
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>>87197257
How hard do you have to TRY to fuck up a the use of a LASSO.
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>>87197128
kino
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>>87201198
UP IN THE CLUB
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>>87201400
fucking hot
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>>87197005
When the fuck will anybody be allowed to criticize a woman without repercussions? Can't say anything negative or they'll make it about their vagina. Fuck off
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>>87200950
HAHAHAHAHAHA. This is literally the same quality as Spoony flying towards the camera from that TGWTG anniversary shit.
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>>87201277
Modern feminists now deem undesirable characteristics which are traditionally associated with men.

So they don't want women who can protect and fight while feeling pain and not looking pretty at all.
They want women who can keep their l'Oreal™ hair under all circumstances so that their love interest, who is also the movie, would still want them.
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>>87197005
>Mr High and Mighty
Boy I sure love journalism that takes sides
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>>87201494
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>>87201626
what is cheetah's powers? How is she the main villain for WW when WW is a fucking god
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The female cunts aren't the issue. It's the numales who support them, they'll gang up on Cameron worse than feminazi whores. Numales were a mistake.
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>>87201626
You know a capeshit is trash when a fucking animation has better fighting scenes.
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>>87201494
Kek
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>>87201552
>They want women who can keep their l'Oreal™ hair under all circumstances so that their love interest, who is also the movie, would still want them.
That's basically what Cameron said. And the response I've heard from women I know (and what Jenkins seems to be getting it) is that it's comparable to what men usually get with action heroes. That's a perfectly valid point, but it also has nothing to do with what Cameron was saying. There's nothing wrong with women wanting a perfect action hero fantasy character they can project themselves onto (like men get with Captain America, Arnold Schwarzenegger, or plenty of other characters), the issue was with critics calling it a step forward in representation and saying Wonder Woman was a good character. She isn't, she's an objectified fantasy character, and there's no reason to apologize for pointing that out.
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>>87201661
She's the avatar of another god iirc. Cheetah has super strength, super agility and enhanced senses. She's the main villain because it was one of wonder woman's friends.
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>>87201742
WTF were they even aiming?
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>>87201661
Super human speed and agility, claws heightened scences.
She's like the avatar of a cheetah god or possessed by a cheetah god so it's not like the comparative powers of a cheetah but more like the abstract ideas of a cheetah personified.

And until relatively recently, like the last 10 years or so WW was not a god or a demi god but clay given life by a Zeus, or Aphrodite, or several Greek gods.
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>>87197257
>this is the same person who directed Monster
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>Patty Jenkins fired back by saying Cameron’s “inability to understand what ‘Wonder Woman’ is, or stands for, to women all over the world is unsurprising as … he is not a woman.

Patty Jenkins isn't an immortal half-god Amazonian either...does that mean she is inherently unable to understand Wonder Woman?
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>>87201769
>>87201787
fair enough
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>>87201742
>immortal power fantasy character stomps faceless goons

this is the reason why capeshit sucks, there is no weight or stakes in the action.
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>>87197130
it hurt my brain irreversibly it seems;
everytime the name is up I've got to fight back a persistent vision of screaming blue and retarded faces
Having to watch the movie against my will also taught me i should follow my guts more; so at least there's that.
the whole blue faces are still painful to have in memory forever to be honest
not initial poster but I hope he can answer your question
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>>87197005
Fuck that shit when some stupid ass roastie directs terminator2: judgment day, then he can apologize
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>>87197093
>apologize for the #1 film that changed cinema forever
0/10 you're just butthurt
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>>87202124
how can something this cute trigger you?
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>>87197005
Based Jim "Capeshit Crusher" Cameron.
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>>87197005
my my my.
What a coincidence...
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>>87197128
>there are people who think this is better than MoS
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>>87202277
I remember the abatab days anon. i remember.
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>>87202277
>changed cinema forever
>millenials thinking avatar changed cinema forever
there's more to movies than you think there is
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>>87202447
>implying millennials aren't the ones that hate Avatar
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>>87201742
Is half the movie in slow motion or something?
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>>87202447
>being this new
are you even old enough to be here kid?
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>>87202486
please don't see no malice in this but I'd gladly consider your arguments about how Avatar changed cinema forever; given i hated that movie, hearing a complete oposite opinion might be instructive

>>87202519
i don't see no arguments or anything of value in your post, could wou elaborate if you care to exchange with me ? I cannot work with those kind of interventions
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>>87197047
If he does he's dead to me, because the James Cameron that made Terminator, Aliens, They Abyss, True Lies, and Titanic would NEVER apologize.
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>>87200298
wait.. so this asshole publically spoke out FOR sharia Law and people are fine with that?
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>>87197005
all 2 of them
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>>87202338
Jesus Christ. It's literally not even a meme anymore.
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>“All of the self-congratulatory back-patting Hollywood’s been doing over ‘Wonder Woman’ has been so misguided,” said Mr. High and Mighty, describing the film’s superheroine as an “objectified icon.” He went on to say, “It’s just male Hollywood doing the same old thing! … It’s a step backwards.”
This is what he's being chastised for.
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>>87202124
0/10 you're just butthurt
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>>87197047
Not a chance
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>>87197047
>thinking Jim would apologise... ever
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>>87197047
Guy has more money than anyone should need to hold his ground. Hopefully the integrity too. Hold the damn line Jim the cuckery needs to stop somewhere
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>>87200950
my fucking sides this is actually spoof movie tier filmmaking
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>>87201682
hard jump cuts might as well be animation
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>>87197005
based Jim
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>>87197600
troll better faggot.
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Also from Claudia Eller from Variety:
http://variety.com/2016/biz/news/variety-hillary-clinton-endorsement-1201905147/
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>>87200950
this cannot be real, holy shit i'm dying
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>>87197005
its not that great movie because Patty Jenkins is not a great director. She just doesn't have the chops compared to her contemporaries. She really lucked out in getting Wonder Woman.
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>>87197305
Snyder is a technically great director. Patty Jenkins isn't. Cameron tells the truth
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>>87204111
To be fair it's still a writing clusterfuck, the direction wasn't terrible outside the fights. The fights were again not really a show of directing skills because they were entirely Snyder-light and the CGI for the scenes was probly in production before Patty landed the job.

>>87204160
Snyder is a great director when someone holds him back. Remember Sucker Punch.
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>>87203674
i'm absolutely butthurt I watched that movie, this was my whole point you retard
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>>87204198
sucker punch is shit because the story and concept of it were shit. Not because of the direction.
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>>87204343
If you're some kind of slow-mo fetishist maybe the direction isn't shit, but it's shit.
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>>87197005
/ourguy/
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>>87197128
I have to laugh just from the webm thumbnail
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>>87197128
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>>87204277
stay butthurt hater
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>>87197831

I like Cameron but the whole "main female characters in action movies can only be bitter roid-raging diesel dikes" is retarded.
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>>87198294
The bad guy from toy story is named Sarevok?
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>>87205031

His name is Ares or War.
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>>87197128

Which youtube fan film is this?
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>>87200950

IS THIS REAL?
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>>87200821
>is a strong career woman who does as she thinks is right, despite getting reprimanded by superiors
>is terrified (as is everyone) when Alien starts killing one by one
>outwits and beats the Alien creature
>gets woken up from cryosleep
>he daughter died during the time she was frozen
>is sad
>gets reprimanded for blowing up the ship
>speaks her mind anyways
>tells the corporate stooges to kiss her ass (with class)
>agrees TO GO BACK TO THE THINGS SHE HAS PTSD FROM
>sees a little girl
>suddenly her maternal instincts kick into overdrive
>Despite being a strong woman, still has enough femininity and vulberability and kindness to gently flirt with Hicks
>saves Hicks by carrying his ass to the shuttle
>decides to go back for Newt into the literal lion's den
>carries a ducttaped flamethrower and assault rife and Newt, while being confronted by the Queen and the drones
>uses her wit to get themselves out of that situation
>uses her skill in robot forklifting to 1on1 the queen to save Newt

Ripley is literally the best female character in an action film ever. Not even Sarah Connor matches Ripley.

Thats why I love that Aliens had Vasquez in it. A tomboy badass in contrast to a normal, yet smart and capable Ripley.

If more women were like Ripley, we wouldnt have pink haired feminists.
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>>87206084
The robot forklifting was already
>sexist guy says women can't forklift
>lol watch me
and then comes full circle.
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>>87206116
>sexist guy says women can't forklift

What are you talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3hl-nq3-lU
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>>87206152
Yeah, the hardass warehouse man was incredulous and happily surprised. The >lolwoman meme format was exaggeration but the statement stands. The fact that it doubles as foreshadowing just makes it a better movie all around.
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>>87197128
>19 sec clip is the whole movie
This board is straight retarded
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