/who/ - Doctor Who General

last thread got archived before anyone made a new one, wake up /who/

Someone forgot to make a new thread before the one died

R.I.P /who/

We should have an Aliens of London/World War 3 stream to cuck the haters

>>87195391
I would've made it sooner but I thought someone else would've done it. /who/ is kill

Somebody bring /who/ back to life!

Doctor Who but it crosses over with Warhammer 40k

Shhhhhhh... /who/ is sleeping

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@Gallifrey_Immigrant
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18l9hGECY1htNxVpSZIoPEWPU32KDAb1Sse_QbWEUMMo/edit?usp=sharing

Second shit trips entry finished, as requested! Just over 5k words in total. I checked for errors and such, but I can't guarantee that it's flawless. I also couldn't think of a better title, sorry!

/who/ pls live

>>87196978
Why are some people so profoundly incapable of considering perhaps Chibnall's enormously acclaimed, massively successful non-Doctor Who work maybe, JUST MAYBE, played a part in him getting the job.

>>87196978
Literally no one could run /who/ like moff has. For all everyone bitches at him as a head writer, its hard to find a ton of faults with him as a showrunner: he rarely miscasts, he put the show in hd and in theatres, he gets the budget raised all the time, he expanded the international fanbase, he answers the fanmail, he organizes the brand and makes the right production moves(hiring great directors, attracting talent, etc.). Literally the only thing he does wrong is the breaks, and not all of that is even under his control.

>>87197589
didn't know moffat was involved in /who/

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>>87197710
he invented it

>>87197589
2/2 and thats why he chose chibnall: the showrunner can't just be a writer, they have to successfully run a media empire. Very few of the writers were in a position to do that. Certainly not enough that had Chibnall's writing experience. Neil Cross was a good second choice, but he only had two episodes under his belt for the show. Gaiman could easily do it and clearly had the caliber of a writer to take the show in a new direction, but he's Neil Gaiman and has his own shit to do. Gatiss can barely run shit without moffat around, so thats tits up.So the only one who really could handle the job was chibnall.

>>87197710
>implying g_i isn't moffat

Nigga, the first story of shit trips 1 is most of twice upon a time rearranged into something more coherent.

So how would you kill the Doctor for good /who/?
Im thinking death by impalement saving his companion and a child

>>87198369
Honestly, just The Doctor Falls but he actually dies there. Would have been such a kino permanent finale for the show if they needed it to be, I would have just had the doctor actually know missy turned good in the end

>>87197589
>>87198019
This this this. You get it completely. Relieving to see after so many Who fans misunderstand basically everything about production and the actual showrunning gig.
I'm also tickled pink you didn't even mention fuckin Whithouse.

>>87196320
>calibri

>>87198369
Suicide, after he was tricking into thinking RTD would write him again

>>87197589
>he put the show in HD
this happened before he joined and would have happened anyway.

>>87200931
It happened because of him as part of the changeover process in 2009 between the production teams. Read The Writer's Tale.

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>haven't slept
>pacing around room
>suddenly think about if a cyberman could get preganant
help

>>87200997
I'm pretty sure they would remove the reproductive organs during the conversion process.

Watching through all of 7th doc - on greatest show in the galaxy right now

>>87201211
i know but i was thinking about the og tenth planet ones on mondas
why would they waste time, energy and recources on removing that stuff when they've already removed all sexual desires

>>87201363
Just to be safe, and performing a vasectomy/hysterectomy wouldn't be that hard in comparison to fitting in cybernetic organs or replacing brain matter.

>>87201430
but there wouldn't be any need though
why do that extra stuff when the removal of emotion from the brain that they're gonna do already takes care of it

>>87201538
Just in case? Like I said, compared to replacing vital organs with machinery, cutting off somebody's sexual organs would be easy and take no time at all.

>>87201596
eh your right
i probably think this makes more sense than it actually does because of how tired i am
that and the image of a mondasian cyberman laying on a bed completly blank faced and dead silent while a baby just kinda falls out of her pale lady bits spooked me a bunch and i felt the need to share it

What does /who/ think of City of the Saved?

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Scaroth reporting in.

>>87202159
I guess nobody on /who/ reads Obverse.

Doctor Who is alive.

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Oh it's a comin

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>>87204570
Don't do the "trying to repurpose other boards' shitty memes by changing a word to a /who/ thing" thing.

>>87204599
i already deleted them before you even said that

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>>87204599

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>>87204813

Anybody awake and want to stream something with me? I was thinking maybe a 9th Doctor marathon unless anyone had some classic who they'd want to put on.

>>87205018
which streamchad are you?

>>87205018
>>87205044
cuz if ur capaldo, im out

>>87205137
I'm not capaldo, no.

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/6xh9e2/i_36f_am_going_crazy_with_my_husbands_36m/

lol

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I'm watching the start of the original Twin Peaks, and Cooper is coming off so much like an American version of the Doctor it's a little unnerving.

>>87205429
Twin Peaks, a lot of Lynch's work, is absolutely brilliant. And Kyle MacLachlan is hugely talented, too often wasted in other films/shows. Enjoy!

>>87205018
I'm phoneposting r n so can't stream, but might be on later tonight

>>87205428
lol

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>These six DVDs real ‘hide behind the sofa’ collections bring together episodes of the scariest and most iconic monsters from Doctor Who’s classic and recent series. Each title concentrates on a deadly enemy – The Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, The Master, Davros and the Silurians – and features two separate stories from popular incarnations of the Doctor, including Matt Smith, David Tennant, Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee.

>These collections are perfect for younger viewers just discovering the scary delights of fifty years of Doctor Who.

>Stories included are:

>The Master –Terror of the Autons (1971) & The End of Time (2009-10)

>Davros – Genesis of the Daleks (1975) & The Stolen Earth/Journey’s End (2008)

>The Daleks – The Daleks (1963) & Asylum of the Daleks (2012)

>The Cybermen – The Tomb of the Cybermen (1967) & Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel (2006)

>The Sontarans – The Time Warrior (1973) & The Sontaran Stratagem/The Poison Sky (2008)

>The Silurians – The Silurians (1970) & The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood (2010)

Thoughts?

>>87205580
Coulda sworn these have been around for a while Anyhows,

>End of Time instead of Utopia

Terror is a solid pick, Delgado in general is top tier.

Davros in NuWho sucks so there aren't that many choices. Genesis is good though.

>Asylum of The Daleks

At least it's not Daleks Take Manhattan?

Also, putting The Daleks makes sense but it's a bore desu.

Tomb is a classic and the 2 parter is alright. If these are brand new, WEAT/Doctor Falls would be better, though.

Sontarans don't really have any real appearances in NuWho other than that one and the only other classic story choice would be Invasion of Time, but even then it's more Time Lord centric than Sontaran centric.

Silurians is a classic and the only other choice is Warriors of the Deep so it's an obvious choice. The latter two parter is forgettable but not terrible, and the only other real choice was Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, but they don't even show up in the flesh.

>>87205702
They've been around for four years, I just hadn't looked at them before

Would be neat if they included more stories but I imagine there's cost reasons for keeping it just to two. But a proper Classic/NewWho-spanning Master or Dalek set could be neat. You could do Zygons too really - Terror, 50th, S9 2parter.

>>87205751
You mean all stories or really good ones?

>>87205835
Just really good, or defining, ones. All would be a bit overboard, though interesting.

>>87205887
>All would be a bit overboard, though interesting.
Different context, but it's been done before. Including audios.
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Complete_Davros_Collection

>>87205580
They're better than the previous monster sets which only included nuwho
Although I'm not interested in these as they'd mess up the 2|Entertain display

>>87205914
I mean having Classic and New together in a bigger boxset as the interesting thing, but I didn't phrase it well. I've got some of the old sets (a Mara one, and I've borrowed the Davros set before, it has a really neat feature where they animate parts of some BF audios with him).

>>87205927
I wonder how a kid would take them as an exposure to Classic Who. I saw Classic before NewWho when I was a kid, but whenever I've tried to introduce people to Classic Who who didn't, I usually fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESNdr_cjHs
Alex Jones is on the scene

>>87206067
He's pretty damn late, /who/'s already had these debates dozens of times. Nothing new left to say.

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GI RN

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The Tomb of the Cybermen Part 1 (my favourite classic story alongside Inferno) is 50 years old today.

Fuck it's such a good story, and I'm glad it was recovered in 1991 or else we'd just have recons instead (honestly, this makes up for every other missing episode being missing). The atmosphere, the Cybermen, everything is just pure kino.

>>87205580
>Thoughts?
The only good cover is the Master's.

>>87206714
EXPLAIN

>>87205580
why does the sontarans logo look like the flintstones logo

>>87206714
>it's him in his electric zombie anime mode
No, this is incorrect

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>tfw waiting for Shit Trips

>people pretending to be excited for shit trips
why

>>87206913
>don't understand other people's actions so assume they must be pretending
Step one on the road to being a conspiracy loon and all around bad person.

>>87206725
My main gripe for the covers are the fonts. Only the Master's (and the Cybermen but I've got a problem with that cover) is good, if not for the placement of the "The": it would work better if it was in the center.

The font used for Daleks and Davros would fit better on a gyro place than here. It would benefit with some rounder fonts, like Tw Cen MT.

The font used for the Sontarans and Silurians look tacky. >>87206741 is right, the font for the Sontarans would be better for the Silurians. A better Sontaran font would be something more militaristic and square, not prehistoric and curvy.

And whoever thought the font for C4BERMEN was a good idea should get shot.

>>87207008
please relax

>>87207015
Move the middle bar of the Y up so it's level with those of the Es/Rs, and add a horizontal tail across the bottom of the Y so it no longer looks like a 4. I fixed it.

>>87205981
>it has a really neat feature where they animate parts of some BF audios with him
are those online at all?

>>87207345
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23vbh2
Here with French subtitles

Looking forward to Shit Trips. Proud(?) to see my work is in it.

>>87208105
I'm looking forward to it too. Excited to read yours, whatever it is!

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Later in the thread than I like to be but... How has your day been /who/?

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>"Grandfather!"

"Listen Susan, please, I've double locked the doors, you can't get in. Now move back child where I can see you. During all the years, I've been taking care of you, you in return have been taking care of me."

>"Grandfather I belong with you!"

"Not any longer Susan! You're still my grandchild, and always will be. But now, you're a woman too. I want you to belong somewhere. To have roots of your own. With David you'll be able to find those roots, and live normally like any woman should do. Believe me my dear, your future lies with David, and not with a silly old buffer like me."

"One day, I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine. Goodbye Susan. Goodbye my dear...."


Does this make anyone else cry or just me?

>>87208295
I am completely 100% desensitized to it since it got looped on casualwhostream. Not even joking. It used to make me cry. Now it makes me bored and annoyed. I wish it didn't. Oh well.

>>87208295
The Doctor hits on a very sensible solution - dump Susan off with the first man she's attracted to and tell her to make babies. In fact, when the Doctor does lock her out of the TARDIS, his stated reason is that she's a woman now. In other words, it's because she's had a sexual awakening - and earlier in the story she and David have, in the words of Amy Pond, a snog in the shrubbery.

What I want to stress, though, is that this remains enormously problematic. Not just in that the Doctor is basically forcing Susan to marry the first guy she kisses and have babies, but in the staggeringly creepy moment where David tells Susan that staying on Earth with him is finally her chance to have an identity. Yes, this is a callback to a scene a few episodes earlier, but still, it highlights how appallingly powerless Susan is made.

None of this is helped by the staging of the farewell scene. Carole Ann Ford hits it out of the park, showing the producers quite clearly how much they wasted her talents. But William Hartnell, doing his part of the scene on the TARDIS set, feels like he's reading off a teleprompter (Or, as I have just discovered if one wants to be proper, a TelePrompTer brand cueing device). Which, to be fair, he probably was, since fusing two scenes together like this was actually a bit of a technical challenge, but it ends up looking like the Doctor really is eager to get rid of Susan. Which, to be fair, he has seemed to be much of the episode, but it does suck the drama out pretty hard.

The Doctor promises that some day he will return. He never does. One can try to fill in some missing story for this - a couple exist from the Eighth Doctor era - but the fact of the matter is, here Susan is treated like any other companion. Which is to say, she's abandoned. Looking at the Doctor and Susan together, it's tough to explain why. The Doctor so clearly cares deeply about Susan. And he has family reasons to be with her. But he abandons her forever.

Why?

>>87208481
>copypasting Sandifer
>saying Hartnell's performance was bad

>>87208962
Everyone can see that you don't actually address a single point made there. You mock them but present no actual arguments for how it's wrong. I wonder why...

>>87208993
Because you touch yourself at night

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Oh its a comin

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>>87209370
>class edition

>>87209774
I think I heard Immigrant say there's only 1 actual Class fic in? Lel. I mention class extremely briefly in one of mine, but just in a list of tragedies 12 was a part of.
(For the record I enjoyed the actual show)

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>>87203120
>3120
The Brain of Morbius get

>>87207500
>7500
Dalek Empire II: Dalek War get

>>87209860
What's the title?

>>87210172
Of what? The actual Class fic in there? Not sure, there's a list on the wiki though

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>>87210244
Nah.

>>87210271
Lel. Could still access if you go to the page history I suppose

Also what do you think of these things an anon has been posting with the covers together
>>87209370
>>87204454

>>87210381
Well I like how my art's getting posted, other than that, nothing much I can say about it.

>>87210424
Would you call it your magnum opus?

If both Cloisters actually were Time Lords, would it be dangerous for their timestream to interact in online threads so much?

>>87210701
I don't think they're the same cloister

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>>87210493
It's one of my favourite pieces to work on, but would I call it my magnum opus? No.

I feel that my magnum opus gets decided by other people, not me.

However, I can tell you that my favorite cover variant is the Class one. As a side note, pic related was my first version of it before scrapping it entirely.

>>87210798
Yeah but the joke is they are , I was just wondering in doctor who lore what would happen for two versions of thesame time lord to interact a lot

>>87210817
Forgive the pun, but the final Class cover is very classy. That first version is pretty neat too.

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>>87210936
Thanks, I didn't originally plan to make a Class version, but I think I hurt Immigrant's feelings when I said I didn't like Class, so I made it as a sort-of peace-offering.

I really tried to incorporate the logo somewhere in there, but it just wasn't working, so I scrapped it.

The final version (and the early version) was inspired by the Class intro we go on and on and on and on, with the psychedelic colors and effects.

With the final version, I experimented with different filters and levels before finally settling on various hues and saturation levels + blending modes.

Does the Fifth Doctor happen to say "grips" or "grip" at any point in his tenure?

Day of the Daleks DVD is so based.

Special Edition makes the story more watchable, interesting extras and so on. Fuck I love the DVD's for Doctor Who, anybody just pirating them is missing out on the proper experience.

(Well, I guess the proper experience would be sitting too close to an old shit TV as a child once a week to watch some Hartnell, but this is the patrician way to collect and view Who)

>>87211342
...why?

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So, "baybul" color posted his 11th anniversary video. the Moff shows up in it to plug the new season and congratulate Stuart on his hard work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UX3kLNELPw

Fellow Claps, be prepared to have to rewind and turn the sound up to understand half of what the British congratulators are saying.

Brit-posters. Carry on, lads.

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ERIMEM - THREE FACES OF HELENA
NOW AVAILABLE from www.thebespublishing.com

The latest adventure for the former companion of the Fifth Doctor.

In 276BC, a slave is beaten half to death by a demented princess...

In 1884, a woman calls upon the legendary explorer Allan Quatermain seeking passage to a lost city...

In 2419, the Inquisition exacts Holy Retribution upon a woman called The Abomination...

The link between all three is Helena, the woman just days from marrying into Erimem's family in 2017. What is the link and how can Erimem save her family?

http://www.thebespublishing.com/three-faces-of-helena

>>87211530
Wh-what about us Commonwealth posters? There are dozens of us!

>>87211660
Redpill me on Erimem's prose adventures

>>87211530
I have no idea who BabelColor is.

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>>87211527
Pic related.

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>>87211695
A good point, I sometimes forget about you lot, not from a point of negativity though to be sure. I'm open to your suggestions for Commonwealth viewing after you've seen it.
IE Are the accents too thick for you to understand at first go?
Should all brits take mandatory speech therapy classes?
Will Drop bears really give me the clap?

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>>87211739
He's a guy whose been colorising old B&W for years now, probably even better at it then the BBC.
His tributes to the Brig and Sarah Jane ( amongst others ) will make you cry like a bitch.

>>87211445
I recently started buying Classic DVDs. Managed to get a load for fairly good prices. If you start with the boxsets like revisitations its easy to get a good chunk taken care of.

>>87211768
Lel. You could Google the transcripts of all of his eps and just search for "grip". Would take a little while though.
>>87211856
Don't worry, folks usually expect you lot to forget other countries anyway.
Can't watch vid at the moment but can answer the drop bear question - city ones will definitely pass it on but the country ones usually have different afflictions.

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So what's this announcement at SciFI Wales then?

>>87211695
If the Brig can get a spinoff novel series, why can't Erimem? Well, maybe because she's an audio-only character who played second fiddle to Peri, but other than that? The books say "From the Universe of Doctor Who", just like the Class ads, but it's nowhere near as connected to Doctor Who as Class, and probably nowhere near as bad. (I haven't read them, but it seems like a pretty good guess.)

t. the wiki

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>>87212029
I can understand why, it's my own fault here, it's still fukken early where I am, so I hope you'll forgive this one time.

Avoid City bears, noted. Cheers.

>>87211768
>it's a lymerence makes a youtube poop here the doctor asks if something is death gripps

>>87212137
Think nothing of it anon! I'll avoid your bear bears when I get round to checking your country out one day
>>87212120
Honestly kinda intrigued

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>>87211768
>>87212029
>You could Google the transcripts of all of his eps and just search for "grip"
I did just that, and sadly, the only appearance of the word that I could see is in the transcriber's descriptions of what's happening.

>>87212043
https://twitter.com/ScifiWales/status/903719175331487745
The panel was apparently quite a few hours ago, it's surprising we haven't heard anything yet, whatever it is.

>>87211944

Good to see someone else getting into the classic dvd's.

If you want good extras and content, I'd go for that Day of the Daleks DVD, also pick up The War Games for a great batch of extras and great story. City of Death has a nice extra disc too, I'm biased because it's my favourite though. The Five Doctors 25th anniversary edition.

I'm assuming you've got The Beginning box set too which is great. I love those Revisitations special editions too. Hoping they put out another one day with a redo of Earthshock.

>>87212237
What's your opinion on the CGI revisions some dvds get? I like the Kinda one.

>>87212211
I'm the "own all the books" anon so I'll be ordering the hardback when it's available.

>>87212334
I looked at the kinda re-cgi but it looked too out of place having a """high quality""" snake animation

>>87212120
The books don't even address how Erimem is on modern day Earth. Last time we saw her, she was getting married to the prince of Peladon in the far of future.

>>87201281
Enjoy three episodes of an interesting premise, funny moments and good characterisation followed by one of the worst episodes the show has ever done

>>87212521
Well neither School Reunion OR Sarah Jane Adventures explain how she got back to Earth either.
Last time we saw her she was dying in a stranded space ship. but there were weird lights so it's open to interpretation

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Anyone have more Doctor Who-themed Kornheisers/Expand Dongs?

>>87212528
>one of the worst episodes the show has ever done
What

>>87212624
Fair point, but that was more of a production issue rather than a story one. Big Finish couldn't finish the Sarah Jane stories because of the tv show. They couldn't even use the Master in the Davies' era.

>>87213009
It's that one anon who always rags on the Ragnarok episode.

It's not THAT bad.

Unpopular opinion time

The Dominic Glynn theme is the best DW theme

>>87203120
I do. I think it's a pretty interesting idea. I especially like Compassion(s) in it.

>>87205429
>Cooper is coming off so much like an American version of the Doctor it's a little unnerving

I've thought the same thing. His quirkiness and hoodheartedness makes him like a Doctor who was created in the American 90s, rather than from Britain in the 60s.

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>tfw nobody ever talks about Six's Big Finish costumes other than the blue one

>>87213700
Christopher Ecclestone was a terrible Doctor. Every Doctor was the Doctor, he just acts like he is the Doctor. His performance feels fake and sloppy to me. His 'kill yourself' speech is horrible and even McCoys horrible acting is easy to see through because he is in a sense the embodiment of his/the Doctor.

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>>87214393
I love this one.

>>87211445
I don't care much for the special edition (less daleks is actually more scare insofar as it makes one individual dalek appear more powerful on its own) but the fact that they literally hunted down the original cameras for the reshoots is pretty neat.

>>87213700
Oxygen is kinda bad
The Eaters of Light is shit

>>87214513
Those were unpopular opinions?

>>87211930
I think he legit did the dvd colourisationwork for episode one of Invasion of the Dinosaurs or that one with the master and the teleporting machine thing

>>87214557
Maybe not, but several people are argued with me over these.

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Who else seen this yet?
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Doctor-Who-The-Lost-Dimension-Alpha

Doctor Who is dead.

Shit Trips when

I'm sorry, the old /who/ can't come to the phone right now.

Why?

Oh, 'cause it's dead!

>>87212521
In the books, Erimen has amnesia. She doesn't even seem to have any sot of idea about her travels with the Doctor, and sadly, doesn't seem to remember her character development from the audios.

>>87214394
Wow. That really is unpopuler.

>>87214766
Reminder that right after she took off at the end of The Doctor's Daughter she crashed into a moon and died.

>>87215289
>needing her to be dead even though it's already guaranteed she will never be on the TV show again

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>>87212763

>>87215289
Reminder that she's gonna have her own BF spinoff

>>87215282
I really can't help it. I do appreciate his Doctor's stories, but his acting really just feels like he's just come from a less than adequate theatre school

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>>87215387
Immigrant, just to confirm: you got my 8/Martha fic for shit trips, right?

>>87215561
No, I didn't. Link it!

Was that 13/Oswin story ever linked here?

Or that 13 with Alice story?

Or that Fifth Doctor Faction Paradox story?

>>87215561
I saw the link. Thanks!

>>87215717
I posted it last night, so that's probably why: >>87196320

I haven't noticed any of the other three stories being posted, though I might've just missed them.

>>87212237
In terms of boxsets I have
The Beginning
Espace
Trial
New Beginnings and 2 of the revisitations
Have a load of single stories too. Have City of Death

>>87215837
I liked it.

I especially like how you kept the ending travel ambiguous. Did he just drop her home? After all, the Doctor was never that good at getting to a destination...and did Martha know that, when she let him take her home?

Shit Trips when??????

>>87195910
Hey, you are Doctor Winston'O Writing in ST Vol 2, right?

>>87216033
Nah.

I did write 4 stories though

>>87216033
>>87216134
No way to prove it but I'm Doctor Winston

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>>87215982
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!

Yeah, I wanted to make sure it was sort of vague in that regard, so it's ultimately up to the reader whether she stayed with him for a while or not. Any sort of timeline conflicts or whatever else can easily be explained away with Eight's memory issues. (And the final little section was him remembering a little bit of her from back then, but this time as 10, and feeling guilt for how he sort of pushed her away the second time around.)

There was a lovely little line in The Company of Friends, in Benny's story, actually, about how the Doctor always seemed to get distracted and a short trip back home usually ended up taking several weeks at least, and that that was especially true for Eight, so... I felt it was fitting!

>>87216134
What were those 4 stories, and what is your author moniker?

>>87216172
Cool.

>>87216220
Martha Jones is yet another companion that the Eighth Doctor had.

Which reminds me--did anyone laugh at how the first Time War boxset alone has given Eight three new companions? He keeps on getting new ones!

>>87216231
The Healer
A Gentlemanly Duel
The DAVROS Collective Black Archive: A Doctor Who AU
A Quick Run Before School

The third one was The Guy Who Made The Cover, and I think one of those was under Rachael Riley.

If you're still editing the .pdf just credit the 4 to Rachael Riley. If not, then it's all good.

>>87213009
>>87213593
It's cheap melodrama in the same vein as "oh no the universe is going to blow up" in Terminus, and the villains are sorely underused and defeated by Sylvester McCoy gurning and doing a shit street magic act. It's a joke and there's no tension. A massive letdown after the quite good Circus stuff

>>87216303
>did anyone laugh at how the first Time War boxset alone has given Eight three new companions?
Maybe they just keep dying. When you think about it, Eight's probably one of the most dangerous incarnations to travel with going by his track record.

https://twitter.com/MrWhelan96/status/904022902160445440

>The SciFi wales #DoctorWho announcement that STILL hasn't been announced yet is that The DW Experience is being relocated in Wales

>There.

This guy claims to be an ITK.

>>87216502
Additionally, we're told that the Doctor has been fighting the gods of Ragnarok for centuries and they they are incredibly powerful, but we're never actually shown any of and they never actually do anything, so they could have been cats as far as the story's concerned. It wouldn't have changed anything.

i can feel myself becoming less and less of a who fan every day
i used to read every thread here but now i haven't been here in 3 months
what is happening
i should be sadder but it's like i can't help but feel that doctor who was never really good, and i thought i knew that but now it feels like it actually matters

>>87216690
Well, assuming that's legit, good to know it's staying open rather than just shutting down.

Are there any transcripts of any good Doctor Who books available online? I have no WiFi and limited data, and wanted to go to a book shop just there but they're closed. Are pdf's big? How big?

Please help me I'm bored

>>87216727
>what is happening
I don't know, you're getting a life? haha just kidding

>>87216692
>but we're never actually shown any of

The entirety of the Circus was being animated by their powers. That's pretty darn powerful.

>>87216727
>it's like i can't help but feel that doctor who was never really good
You are simply metamorphosing into an ultimate fan.

>>87216727
You're probably burnt out on it and need a break. Go watch/read/play/listen to something else for a while and come back to Doctor Who when you're ready. It isn't going anywhere.

>>87216797
I guess, but the whole gods angle was so unnecessary and wasted on such an ultimately small scale adventure. It should have just been Some Aliens, with the gods being reserved for bigger and better things. The concept goes nowhere. Them not being taken seriously also hurts they credibility, like in Nightmare of Eden.

>>87216690
Whelan claimed that the 1st Doctor was in the vault and that we'd see 13 in TDF

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>>87216727
It's natural to sometimes move on from interests, it happens to everyone. Maybe one day something will bring you back to that interest again, or maybe you'll never look back. The nature of this show in particular means that taking breaks for a while is perfectly fine, because you know that it'll be there when you come back. There'll always be new content (unless who is kill) and there'll always be fans, so no matter when you pop back in, you won't be missing out on some bygone era.

Take a break for a while, and see how you feel about it in future. Maybe S11 will bring back your interest - even if not in that series itself, then all the expanded universe things, at least. (I took a break myself for a very long while, and only had a casual, passing interest in the show all that time. Capaldi's era brought back the wonder of it for me, and reminded me why I used to love it so much. Maybe Jodie's era will do the same for you, even if it is a while away yet.)

Alternatively, if you don't want to lose your love of the show, you ought to look into some books or audios or even episodes that you haven't experienced before. There's a huge amount out there, and you might not have even scratched the surface of it just yet.

>>87216502
>>87216692
This is all true desu. The McCoy era has a lot of bullshit like this but Greatest Show is the worst example and I don't blame anyone for being put off by it. Still love it though.

>>87216753
You can find books here

mega.nz/#F!AU4DHDwb!OSayDSboo27IvIYZ0GCCuw

>>87217034
i'm sure i'll enjoy series 11 and i'll get excited for it. it's actually my enthusiasm for the expanded universe that i can feel fading. absolutely no interest in listening to big finish or reading the vnas, or even watching any classic episodes right now. i think you're right though, when there is a new series i get interested again - it happened to me when series 9 was about to start.
i suppose i'm just surprised because i've loved doctor who since 2005 and assumed it would be something i'll always love

>>87217034
How are you today McGanon?

You were very nice to me yesterday and I'm feeling a lot better than I was, thank you for being so kind. I hope you're having a nice day so far. I also hope this doesn't come off as cheesy.

>>87217159
Maybe it's not that you've gone off Doctor Who altogether, but just that you no longer feel you need to excessively consume it just for the sake of doing so. I hit that point sometime last year, I don't have much motivation to listen to audios or read Who books at the moment (although I still have fun occasionally rewatching new and classic episodes). Part of it is that I'm distracted by other stuff.

>>87217100
I liked the stuff in Nemesis and Remembrance but Greatest Show just rubbed me the wrong way. I still like the first three episodes. I'm halfway through Battlefields rn and desu this could go either way - I'm not comfortable with dude merlin lmao but depending on how it's executed I could change my mind

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>>87217159
It sounds like it just might be a bit of a burn-out, really. Most people associate that with consuming a lot of content too quickly, but I figure it can happen just the same even spread over a long period of time. Best thing you can do at the moment is just sit tight and wait for S11 - or, hell, even the Christmas special this year, because I'm sure it'll be a good one. It might just take something new to kick-start your interest again, and the upcoming era will be about as new as new can be, with the showrunner change and all.

>>87217228
I'm very well, thank you for asking! I'm glad to hear you're feeling better today, and there's no need to thank me for the kindness - it was very much my pleasure. The last thing I want is for anyone here to be sad. (And don't worry, it's not cheesy at all!)

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How come 10 was able to stave off his regeneration long enough to visit all of his previous companions, but 12 can barely hold it in?

Also LOOK AT HIS SMILE IT MAKES ME SO HAPPY. I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL CHRISTMAS! HE'S SO CUTE AND HE'S GOING TO BE SUCH A GOOD FIRST DOCTOR!

>>87217416
10 was slowly dying of radiation poisoning. 12 got fucking blown up.

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Where is all the 13 dominating shotas, /who/? Please don't tell me I have to write it all myself after Shit Trips. Smh.

AND THE SHEPHERD'S BOY SAYS

>>87217416
>>87217473
He's holding it in enough for an entire Christmas special, that's probably longer than 10.

>>87217416
>12 can barely hold it in?
Consider that 12 was holding it in for an entire episode prior to that point.

>>87217486
There are no "Thirteen dominating shotas" fics in ST Vol 2.

>>87217549
Then my point stands. Y'all slacking.

>>87217539
Real question is how the hell he was able to fake it during Lie

>>87217625
He's always been able to intentionally release regeneration energy, at least in the new series. I assume a Time Lord can regenerate at will, considering the Master could refuse to do so.

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>>87217034
McGanon you might be able to help me with this, thanks in advance if you can. So I'm starting uni soon and it's about an hour from my house to uni so that makes 2 hours travel a day and that's good time for /who/ material! I'm a big fan of audio serials so I'll probably start listening to 8 stuff but I was wondering aside from the movie should I read any books or other material before I jump into the 8 audios? P.S: you're my favourite new tripfag keep up the good shitposting

>>87212334

I don't bother save for the Day of the Daleks special edition honestly. They look out of place and cheap in a not charming way, more just a 'students assignment for 3d class' kind of way.

Bought the Kinda dvd recently so maybe I shall give that a look. Any you would recommend watching with the added effects? I mostly think it's a waste of resources that could be better spent on more extras or something.

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>>87217625
>>87217712
or maybe that was a real regeneration and he's been holding it in all this time

>>87217539
What are you talking about? He only started regenerating after he was shot by the Cybermen towards the end.

>>87217885
He was electrocuted by a Cyberman at the start of the episode.

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>>87217885
During his conversation with Bill earlier in the episode as they're walking through the trees, there's a clear point where regeneration energy starts leaking out and he suppresses it.

>>87217813
>Twelve had Thirteen's personality throughout the entirety of the latter half of Series 10

>she was the first trans Doctor

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>it's a regeneration episode

>Faction Paradox is nothing more than a meme

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>>87217761
Oh, hey, we've got similar travel times for uni - perfect for giving advice! Eight's audios don't actually require any foreknowledge at all, excluding the movie itself, so you're free to jump into those at any time (and if you need any help with ordering them, just let me know!) and you won't be missing out.

There is, however, one audio anthology called The Company of Friends, that covers the stories of a few of Eight's companions from outside the audios - notably, Bernice Summerfield, Fitz Kreiner and Izzy Sinclair. The first two are from books, the third is from the DWM comics. Those audios are the only ones that significantly reference non-audio material, if I can remember correctly. I don't think it's strictly necessary to have consumed said material prior to listening, but I thought it worth a mention.

I am a huge fan of the Eighth Doctor Adventure novels, honestly, so I'm going to unapologetically shill them right here. If you enjoy reading at all, and if you enjoy Eight at all, they're absolutely excellent - and there's a tonne of them to get through. His book companions are utterly wonderful, and none of their adventures so far have managed to disappoint. It's a bit clunky to try and slot both the books and the audios into the one timeline - its a little bit all over the place in terms of that stuff, but you'll quickly learn that that's just the nature of the Eighth Doctor's content in general.

I haven't read a huge amount of the comics so far, but I've enjoyed those I have. A few comic companions also feature in the books - but you don't really need to have read the comics to understand what's going on or who they are, the books explain it well enough.

So, basically: no foreknowledge needed for the audios beyond the movie, but I highly recommend the books (and, if you like, the comics) all the same!

Also, thank you so much! You're gonna make me blush!

>>87218161
I'm writing some Faction Paradox adjacent stuff for the framing story right now.

I'm still angry we didn't get a Simm regeneration scene. Would have been a good cliffhanger if we didn't see who he turned into, or if we did see and it wasn't Missy.

>>87218282
>if you need any help with ordering them, just let me know!
The order is "start from storm warning and keep going"

>>87218659
Naturally, you'd think it was that easy. But I've encountered a fair few people who fucked that right up.

>>87218161
Not even a successful meme, given Obverse shafted the series to do more Black Archive books.

>>87218282
Would you recommend I read the books when I'm able and the audios when out and about, or would that detract from both? Just that I'm a bit of a slow reader and I've got a Raymond Chandler shaped massive backlog to get through and of course the incoming wave of uni reading, so I don't really want to wait to read the books before I start on the audios but might dip in where I'm able. Also good luck at uni, what is your degree in?

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>>87218648
This was kino though.

>>87218659
>>87218698
it's not that easy then? Since that anon's plan of just start from storm warning was also mine

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>>87218882
>Would you recommend I read the books when I'm able and the audios when out and about, or would that detract from both?
As long as you don't get events all mixed up (which you probably won't with the difference in format), then you can easily work through them both at the same time, at your own pace. That's what I'm doing! I've held off on audios for a little while right now, though, because I want to make sure I've got plenty stocked up for when uni starts.

>Also good luck at uni, what is your degree in?
Thank you! I wish you the best of luck yourself. (And I'm studying zoology!)

>>87219035
Oh, it is that easy, pretty much. It's basically just going by release order: Main Range > EDAs (the audio ones) > Dark Eyes > Doom Coalition > Time War. I think that's it, anyway. Unless I'm totally fucking wrong and I'll look like an idiot for it, but to be fair to myself, I haven't gotten through all of Eight's audios myself yet.

>>87219176
Thanks!

Series 9 soundtrack when?

Did we find out what the "official news" from Sci-Fi Wales was?

>>87197589
To be fair, you have to have averyhigh IQ to understand RTD-era Doctor Who. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewers head. There's also the Doctor’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily fromNarodnaya Volyaliterature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to trulyappreciatethe depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike RTD-era Who truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the Doctor’s existential catchphrase “allons-y,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epicFathers and Sons.I'm smirking right now justimagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Russell T. Davies’ genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how Ipitythem.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Tenth Doctor tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

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What if this was the new TARDIS?

>>87219764
I legitimately wouldn't mind (at least if it was slightly darker). I want them to go for something more classic-style since I'm not fond of the current squarish design.

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>>87219714
>this pasta

>>87219706
The rumors were true all a long.

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>tfw Shit Trips are almost here

>>87218703
>Obverse shafted the series to do more Black Archive books
They just did a novel and a City collection tho, and there's at least three more books coming in the next year or so

>>87220939
>tfw Shit Trips are almost here
Don't jinx it, it will be delayed by several more days again.

So when is Shit Trips 2 coming then lads?

>>87221097
I think it got delayed again

>>87221097
It got delayed

>>87221097
>>87221137
>>87221178

>putting this much effort into samefagging

>>87221097
>>87221137
>>87221178
very funny

>>87221137
>>87221178
Ok cheers lads, thank God there are so many trips!

>>87221097
>>87221137
>>87221178
>>87221207
>>87221208
>>87221239
wew

>>87221097
>>87221137
>>87221178
>posts just over a minute after each other

really makes you think

>>87221239
IKR!!

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/who/ is dead!

>>87221357
>>87221239
>>87221178
>>87221137
>>87221097

salty boardie alert, here's your five (you)s

>>87221353
what are you implying?

>>87221391
>boardie
Stop using that word.

>>87221391
ur just jealous ur not a trip liek me

>>87221510
But they clearly are a boardie. Non-boardies either tolerate the trips or have them filtered. This guy is clearly REEEEEEing to himself.

>>87221594
I don't care.

>>87221594
>Non-boardies either tolerate the trips or have them filtered
That is an incredibly optimistic sentiment and does not match up to the endless instances of people freaking out at trips over /who/'s history.

>>87221594
They're knowledgeable enough about Who to come up with 3 Who-related usernames.

>>87209370
What are they?

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Not entirely sure if I've posted on this (thread) yet.

But here's a Capaldi bare back shower gif for McGanon to ...ahem....enjoy!

People still watch this?

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>>87222880
What sort of person do you think I am?! Anyways, I have to stay loyal.

>>87223056
I only listen to Doctor Who, thank you very much.

>>87223056
>it's a "person who used to watch the show but got upset when it changed makes drive-by post trying to act superior" episode

>>87223056
Watch, listen, read, sometimes sniff the DVD cases. It's an epidemic.

You know I appreciate Big Finish doing a special offer on some of their Seventh Doctor audio, but I think some of them are rather pointless.

Like, why put a special price on Bang-Bang-A-Boom, Dust Breeding, and The Shadow of the Scourge when they're already pretty inexpensive?

>>87223472
It's still making them 67% cheaper than usuall.
Also, they were the special offers for the first day, maybe they plan on getting more and more interesting as the days go by.
I listened to the first part of The Silurian Candidate today, it was okay.
I'm sensing that the silurian politician might turn out to be a Trump parody though.

>>87223099
He should've played James Bond. Almost did, 2nd choice after Brosnan.

What's that message about the Youtube channel that Capaldi is famous for saying?

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>>87224074
He does rather have the look for it, doesn't he? He would've been good in the role, I think.

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>>87224127

>>87224208
good meme

>>87224200
It's wierd, in my mind I can imagine McGann as he was then playing the more brutal assassin type character Craig plays now.

But certainly not a Dalton type Bond (the one he'd have replaced at that time.)

>>87195322
so i stopped watching when dr who became some old fart (lol why the fuck would i watch that) and now i hear its gonna be some chick? wtffff lol

>>87224208
Thanks.

>>87224853
>no new IP

You're trying too hard.

>>87224127
idk something about there being too many trips

>>87223777
>It's still making them 67% cheaper than usuall.

Fair enough on that.

> I'm sensing that the silurian politician might turn out to be a Trump parody though.

God, I hope not, but then again the writer is one of those folks who takes to Twitter whenever Trump says fucking anything there.

>>87225030
>but then again the writer is one of those folks who takes to Twitter whenever Trump says fucking anything there.
Well, fuck.

>The Silurian Candidate

Do we really need a sequel to Warriors of the Bloody Deep?

>>87224791
>>87224885
Why try hard at all? It's a show about some old fart (played by actors of all ages b4 now, and now both genders) who continues having adventures in times and spaces where he/she should or shouldn't land.

>>87225279
Where is it said that it is a sequel ?

>>87225398
> The year is 2085, and planet Earth remains on the edge of a nuclear precipice. At any moment, either of two vast rival power blocs, to the West and the East, might unleash a torrent of missiles, bringing about the terrible certainty of Mutual Assured Destruction.

>>87225598
Well, fuck.
The Mel/Ace stories will have be been bad.

>mfw Doctor Who goes on forever
>mfw the 200th anniversary special features all of the original actors to play the Doctor by traveling back in time and filming them

>>87225674
The only problem I have is that they're not using the political climate for The Happiness Patrol 2: Kandy Boogaloo.

>>87225279
>sequel to one of the worst stories of the 80s
>strong possibility of heavy-handed political ""satire""
>written by the guy who did Maker of Demons and Zaltys, two of the worst releases in the last year

What can possibly go wrong?

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>>87225279
Warriors of the Deep is actually a pretty decent Mac Hulke-esque script desu, it's just let down by the production values (a lot like Invasion of the Dinosaurs). Probably one where reading the novelization improves things dramatically.

>>87225871
No, Warriors is not a good script let down by bad production values. It is a shite script let down by even worse production values. You can't have a moral dilemna when one side is irredeemably evil.

>>87225674
The recent-ish one by John Dorney is apparently pretty good.

>>87226364
I listened to it, and it was mediocre. Feels too much like a retread of Paradise Towers.

>>87226972
To be fair, I've not actually listened to it yet myself. I'm just going by reviews I've read.

Personally, I like the idea behind Paradise Towers but I hated it's execution. And it kinda sounds like that particular audio play is for people who think similarly.

>>87226105
It does suffer from cartoonishly evil villains, but it's at least trying to be a Cold War nuclear metaphor on some level, which is a type of ambition most Davison stories don't have - huge chunks of S21 and especially 20 aren't "about" anything, other than the obvious monsters they feature. (Which, to be fair, is a really low bar.)

And there's that one bit where the Doctor falls in the water at the cliffhanger and Turlough just wants to leave him after about 30 seconds, harking back to the amoral character he was in his first few stories. That's neat.

>>87227275
Even that scene is done horribly, with it being framed as Turlough not wanting to bother because he's already drowned, not being amoral as such.
Which is weird considering he'd only been in the water for 5 seconds.

I swear also that Warriors of the Deep is one of the very few times in the whole series that the sets actually do wobble (despite everything that is said about the show as a whole)

>>87227494
>Which is weird considering he'd only been in the water for 5 seconds.
That's why I think he could be lying there, wanting to save his own skin rather than stop and try to fish the Doctor out, and just uses "he's already drowned" as an excuse. (Which isn't actually in the script, as such, it's just a way of trying to make it make more sense.)

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>>87227777
>quad sevens

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Just finished listening to Jubilee, I understand now why it gets so much praise. It wasn't at all what I expected, but I mean that in a good way.

reminds me that it's such a shame that sixie gets so much shit, when he can be GOAT under a good writer

Describe your favorite Doctor with a sentence without actually saying who they are.

>>87228712
Purged the normies out of Who

>>87228712
Cold and warm at the same time, and can pull off pretty much any outfit.

>>87228712
Shoes.

>>87228825
Thirteenth Doctor?

>>87228929
Twelfth Doctor.

>>87228712
there's no point in me even making an attempt is there

So what are the chances that shit trips is coming out within the weekend?

>>87228999
No, mine was the Twelfth as well

>>87228712
The one after the one with the massive cock

>>87228999
>Thirteenth Doctor?
>Purged the normies out of Who

What are you implying immigrant?

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>>87228969
eight? (y'know, THESE SHOES!)

>>87229397
t-twelve?

>>87228576
Easily one of the best Doctor Who stories i m o and easily easily easily the best Dalek story. I love it to pieces.

>>87228712
And the shepherd's boy says

>>87228712
Did what he had to for the greater good

>>87228712
Cool

>>87229397
Eleven (came after Ten-inch, pun intended)

>>87230118
War

>>87228712
Shagged the Master, sonic screwdriver had 3 settings

>>87229773
Yep. Matt Smith is rather large.
>>87230395
Nope :P

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>>87230395
Seven actually, but Hurt makes sense too

>>87217416
12 has been holding it for 3 weeks. Ten we don't know for sure, but if we assume he went straight to visiting everyone and did not take distractions I'd say he took a day or two at most

>>87228999
Hey Immigrant, I'm the guy of the 13/Oswin fic, I haven't really had a chance to work on it, got tied up with work, and don't really want to give you more to work on. I could finish it now, if you don't have a lot to do on your plate. If you do, no worries I'll wait till Shit Trips 3.

>>87231198
If you finish it now, that will be fine by me.

>>87230476
Female doc from end of Curse of Fatal Death

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>>87230476
The best Doctor.

>>87231652
>>87231664
Why was CoFD so GOAT?

>>87228576
I'm probably one of the only people who didn't like Jubilee that much. There were parts I liked, especially Six, but I felt the story got a bit confused at the end, plus I thought the analogy between human and Dalek was a bit too on the nose. Thought 'Dalek' in NuWho was a better version of essentially the same story.

>>87228712
Be Honest, Peri's Tits were worth regenerating over.

>>87227275
>>87227275
>it's at least trying to be a Cold War nuclear metaphor on some level, which is a type of ambition most Davison stories don't have - huge chunks of S21 and especially 20 aren't "about" anything, other than the obvious monsters they feature.
That's totally false, though.

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>>87232490
Shit, left my trip on again. Here it is for if you have me filtered:
>>87232471