How would you make this into a 3-4 hour film, /tv/? Could it be done?

>>87126576
No. But it could be done in 3, 3 hour movies.

And Peter Jackson is the only man who could do it.

Hire the writers from game of thrones season 7 and they will do it in 2 hours.

It could be pretty effectively broken down into thematically connected vignettes.

>>87126598
>But it could be done in 3, 3 hour movies.
Not possible. TV show with 12 or 24 episodes maybe.

>>87126576
Why would you want one movie consisting of several short movies? Turin's story could make a good movie.

>>87126576
>Could it be done?

Yes, but it wouldn't make any sense.

>>87126712
>LOTR
>TV Show

Just kill yourself not even Game of Thrones has a budget for that. Each episode would cost like $40 million dollars.

>>87126576
Stylised animation similar to the mosaic styled art that tolkien did

>>87126576
No, it wouldn't work as a movie, as the stories in it are a bit like Bible stories. A lot of time passes between different parts of it and a lot of it revolves around different people.

It could work as a TV-series and that is the only form it should be really made, if it's made at all.

>>87126806
>animation
0/10

>>87126576
>autism the movie

i'd watch it tbqh

>>87126611

I didn't think it was possible to laugh this hard while being angry

don't let those shitheads anywhere near Silmarillion

>>87126576
Elves are bad.

>>87126576
not even remotely possibly well

its too fragmented and has too many arcs spanning too big of a timeline to explain well in a condensed version

you also have lots more high fantasy compared to LOTR, you'll have to explain the patheon---the valar, maia etc....the numenoreans vs normal humans etc, the different elf houses...theres too much stuff

you can pick out ONE single story arc and really flesh it out, like maybe the Luthien and Beren story. Or how Sauron went over the dark side and made the rings, or the fall of Gondolin...

>>87126576
Turn the Quenta Silmarillion into a Tolkien cinematic universe with like Finwë's movies, Beren and Lúthien movies, Túrin movies, and you cap it all off with the Avengers of the series The War of Wrath.

File: 1471984306335.gif (2MB, 356x200px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 356x200px

Feanor did nothing wrong.

File: The_Children_of_Hurin_cover.jpg (31KB, 338x500px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 338x500px

>>87126576
I have a strong feeling pic related will be the next thing to get adapted into a movie

>>87126831
eh I feel these short stories of the first ages of middle earth would suit being animated over some tacky videogame cgi with actors composited in

File: 1493689008514.jpg (40KB, 349x509px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 349x509px

>>87126576
I would just hire Idris Elba to fuck a white blonde woman for 4 hours.

>>87127065
After the hobbit Christopher Tolkien would never let the rights to it slip. The stories and world are far too dear to him. Then again he's 92 so let's hope his successor has the same good sense he does.

>>87127111
Ever thought of NOT making these posts?

>>87126795
See>>87126762
>>87126884
And>>87126795
Also kill yourself too

>>87126795
>LOTR
It's not LotR though, dumbass.

>>87127006
>Tolkien cinematic universe
Disney exec here, should we buy the rights ?

>>87127104
I do too, but more classical animation, not this modern shit. I'm imagining something like a more abstract Fantasia for the Valaquenta.

File: tolkienart3.jpg (123KB, 500x560px) Image search: [Google]

123KB, 500x560px

>>87127194
I didnt realise that tolkien did a lot of illustrations himself I thought just the maps but I like the style, a bit similar to The secret of kells if youve seen it

>>87126576
you'd have to take one story like children of hurin or beren and luthien, in two films you'd cover beren up to meeting luthien, then taking the jewels in an epic second half.

File: Tolkien.jpg (89KB, 736x575px) Image search: [Google]

89KB, 736x575px

>>87127278
His landscapes are usually better than anything else. He wasn't the greatest artist.

File: Unfinished_Tales_PB.jpg (125KB, 800x439px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 800x439px

>>87127324
I like tolkens art but everything pales in comparison to nasmith

>>87126576
12-ep anthology on showtime

>>87127505
FUCK OFF, WE'RE FULL
YOU WILL NOT MAKE NUMENOR HOME

File: Sergei Fedorovich Bondarchuk.jpg (9KB, 214x317px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 214x317px

>>87126576
>Could it be done?

Yes, but you need an autistic tyrant for a director who is also the producer and big fan of the work. Good luck finding that. The better thing to do is creating an entirely new IP.

>>87127278
>>87127324
I think a lot of that is that he was imitating folk art style.

>>87126576
>Could it be done?
Not well.

File: 1472425071249.jpg (107KB, 564x590px) Image search: [Google]

107KB, 564x590px

Whats the situation right now with the rights and Christopher Tolkien anyway?
Last I heard he had a fucking death grip on Silmarillion.

>>87127063

>>87129361
It's the same, after he dies it goes to his second son who feels the same way he does. Which is good, the last thing I want to see is another butchery like the Hobbit.

>>87129361
kek

>>87127065
>Christopher Tolkien
why a book needs ilustrations?
not even Harry Potter has ilustrations

File: d87de38da07c2a03da9c45f7d4d8d6af.jpg (48KB, 564x411px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 564x411px

>>87127065
>tfw I still havent read it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9468-QKRoCg

File: illustration.jpg (643KB, 1294x958px) Image search: [Google]

643KB, 1294x958px

>>87129510
>ilustrations
What's wrong with having some nice illustrations with the chapter header?

>>87129563
>Glaurung the Gold
>Artist paints him grayish cyan
Why?

>>87129628
Illustrations are for Kids and imaginationlets.

Sin City type mini stories?

>>87129999
You can always go for the audio book version instead if illustrations trigger you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuUkLbOAWcU

File: 1407971917220_wps_2_http_www_details_com_cele.jpg (152KB, 634x855px) Image search: [Google]

152KB, 634x855px

>>87126576
Cast him.

>>87130120
Ancalagon

>>87129999
edgy

>>87129999
Sup rebbit

A 3 season series of 10 episodes each.

>S1: Creation of Arda up until Nolder Rebellion and Exodus
>S2: Beleriand events up until war of wrath
>S3: Numenor and the One Ring

>>87127063
>>87127063

>be Feanor
>make the most beautiful gems ever in all of existence
>so beautiful Satan himself comes to steal them
>get mad, swear the most terrible oath that will ever be sworn in the history of the world
>former allies and friends are like "cool down bro, you're not thinking straight"
>kill them and steal their boats
>cross the ocean, get to the other side and burn the boats because this train has no brakes
>takes my entire people on a rampage all the way to the gates of Angband
>personally fight my way so deep into the enemy ranks I end up soloing nine Balrogs at once
>finally get struck down by Gothmog, lord of Balrogs
>my (many) children carry my dying body from the battlefield
>make them swear they nor their children nor their children's children will rest until we get those fucking gems
>set fire and blow away as ashes on the breeze as I die because of how FUCKING ANGRY I AM

>>87127065
With incest in GoT and then accidental incest in this story, the world will be one step closer to incest being a normal thing.

>>87129563
Man it's lots of fun. There's a dragon bigger than a continent in it.

>>87126576
2 films covering Beren and Luthien.

First starts with a 20 minute background explaining the Silmarillion and different kingdoms. Melian is the narrator.

Movie starts with Beren and Barahir fucking up Sauron's shit. Gorlun goes back to his homestead and it's burnt to shit. He's all pissed and fucks orcs up even more. Sauron's spies see this and lays trap. Everyone is killed. Beren has wraith Gorlun dream, kills orcs, get ring and flees through Nan Dun-Gorthab. Stumbles into Brethil and see Luthien. They do their shit.

Beren goes to Nagathrond and forms bro party with Felegund. They go north, song fight with Sauron and get thrown into a dungeon. Werewolfs come out every now and then and eat people alive.

Luthien escapes Menegroth, taken prisoner by Celegorm. She convinced Huron to help find Beren. They go north. Wolf comes for Beren, Felegund goes into berserker, breaks chains and kills wolf. Beren passes out.

Luthien arrives. Wolf and hound battles. Luthien frees everyone and rescues Beren.

Beren decides to leave Luthien, sings song of parting while looking over Anfaulglif. Luthien comes up and says she's not leaving. Huron brings bat suit and wolf's skin. Dramatic music. Beren in wolf form howls and Luthien as a bat blocks out the moon. They take off across Anfauglif and the scene fades to black.

>>87126598
Oh great, another trology of boring repetitive movies. How about you make one 2 hour movie, then shove it up your ass?

>>87126576
It could be done but I don't want to see it become a trainwreck.
Jackson pushed his luck with LOTR and fortunately it became a staple in film history.
Then the Hobbit came out and trashed everything that Jackson created leading up to that point.
Leave it be.

File: 1489846272701.png (362KB, 680x504px) Image search: [Google]

362KB, 680x504px

>>87131104
literally the best story in the silmarillion

>>87131104
Next movie starts with winter night over Are Galen. Quiet Noldor sentries. Suddenly Thangorodrim explodes, lava, orcs and Balrogs March out killing everyone. Time lapse, chard bodies and burnt fields, werewolf and bat go flying past.

They reach Thangorodrim, take out Carcaroth. Sneak in, Luthien sings her song and Morgoth falls over unconscious. Cut Silmarillion. Freak out and leave.

Carcaroth bites Silmarillion and belches blood and flames and runs off. B and L and rescued by Thorondor and brougjt back to Thingol. All good except Cacaroth is fucking shit up. In comes Beleg and Mablung. Hunting party with Huron. Beren dies. Luthien lays down next to him. Seasons pass, she dies. Movie ends

File: 1478114083555.png (42KB, 813x520px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 813x520px

>>87127063

I'd do it like Anastatia. Narrated scenes, with animation then live action.

>>87129361
i fucking love this image

>>87126576
Movie 1: Faenor Fucks Everything Up (following mainly Faenor, Maedhros, Fingolfin, and Melkor)
2: Beren and Luthien/Nirnaeth Arnoediad (following mainly Thingol, Beren, Luthien, Caranthir/Curufin, and Hurin)
3: Children of Hurin/Fall of Gondolin/Fall of Doriath (Turin and Tuor being contrasting protagonists, also follows Eol, Thingol, and Melian)
4: Kinslaying/Saving Middle Earth (Maedhros, Maglor, Earendil, and Elwing)

>>87131404
This is the best iteration of this meme. It fits better to Faenor than the original fit to turbopatriot Americans

>>87126576
I would rather all of you learning to read.
Let this idea die; there's no reason to bring it to the rootless mullato masses for examination.
Also Feanor did nothing wrong.

I caught up LOTR movies last night on TV. Just as another channel was streaming The Hobbit.

Where did everything go so wrong?
>FOR THE WEST!

>>87126576
If it were done it should be done like the old cartoons Martin Rosen and United Artists did.

If it were live action you'd just get a shitty Hobbit clone.

>>87131610
>attacks brother because he doesn't understand the god of trickery could trick him
>attacks bro tribe to steal their sacred boats literally given to them by God
>hears people talking shit about him so he tries to strand them by burning said sacred boats
>goes full autist when he arrives in M-E and gets BTFO by Balrog
>forces his sons to make autism magic promise on his deathbed
>literally such a flaming faggot that he bursts into flames instead of just dying normally
Faenor apologists are the worst. Thingol is the only one who did nothing wrong. Besides maybe Tuor.

Galadriel riverdancing for 3 hours straight

File: image.png (516KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

516KB, 900x900px

>>87129563
No, no , no , no ,NO! The sword was black! REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>87130600
But Tolkien was definitely anti incest considering the horrible outcome of it. 2 people killed themselves over it immediately after finding out

>>87129563
If you're having a hard time with the start just skip to the chapter where the elves wake up and then skip to the part where Faenor starts sperging out.

>>87132243
Creation of Arda is GOAT chapters

iv enire reaind teh simiiarion
only jtrh lord of things and hopplet
shgould i>??

>>87133302
yies

>>87126598
With so many stories, I doubt 3 movies are going to be enough. I would prefer 6 movies of 2 hours.

>>87130120
Eol.

>>87126576
I'd make it in to a tv-series tbphwy. I don't know exactly how it would look, because it can't really be an anthology, and it isn't really an overreaching arch. All I know is that I'd get Malick to direct the first 2-hour episode focusing solely on the creation aspect of the universe, completely without dialogue and characters, using only natural imagery, a lot of light contrasts and music.

>>87128553
I am that man.

File: Redwall_Detail_3.jpg (199KB, 1200x865px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 1200x865px

>>87126576
I'd rather get some Redwall films but actually keep them violent like the source material. For some reason nobody's willing to make something like this unless it's animated by zips or done in a faggy Dreamworks/Pixar computer animated style.

>>87127065
The ening is not great. I do love the book though.

>>87129422
This, the hobbit was awful. It seems as though everyone has forgotten about it and is just waiting for the next thing to be adapted. The thing is it doesn't.
The Lord of the Rings came about at a perfect time and couldn't be made today so why attempt to make something that would require twice as many films.

>>87135351
What happened to the film industry?

>>87126576
Isnt this just a scrapbook of whos fucked who in middleearth?

>>87126576
A tv show with 2 seasons of 8 episodes each.

>>87135144
because redwall teaches children wholesome values, and hollywood would much prefer to produce harry potter which was a CIA psyop

>>87126884
I would love to see a movie about Melkor and Ungoliant killing the trees of light and stealing the silmarils.

>>87130120
Eru Illuvatar

File: 1471791145790.jpg (479KB, 2456x1000px) Image search: [Google]

479KB, 2456x1000px

So how big was Ancalagon once and for all?

>>87136986
Estimates place him at roughly 20 miles

>>87126712
>>87126576

This. Too many characters come and go and the focus changes so much, it would just work better as series. The stories are beautiful, but don't lend themselves to a one off telling like a movie is.

>>87126884
I would go and see a Luthien and Beren movie, even after the travesty that was the hobbit. That story is the most epic love story I ever read.

>>87126576
Thankfully the Tolkien estate will never, ever allow this to happen.

>>87129361
>>87126576

Serious question, who, if anyone, would you trust to make it into a screen adaptation of some kind? GRRM trusted HBO and look where that got him.

>>87129361
i don't get this image

>>87126576
>3-4 hours
This probably take a whole days worth of your time to watch and have it be any good, it's insanely detailed

what were the gay elves doing during the LOTR? why didn't they fight?

>>87139235
they were fucking off middle earth

>>87126576
no

>>87138710
GRRM also doesn't give a shit he's banking he wrote the start, got himself into a fucking corner he couldn't get out of and hbo did all the hard work even though it was complete shit. He doesn't care he will never care.

>>87129510
But harry potter DOES have illustrations on the chapters, and the cover and spaced throughtout. Also there is an Illustrated edition...

>>87129422
>>87135351
Someone hasnt seen the Fiona van Dahl version...

homework.never-ends.net

>>87127065
Does anyone know
>>87126576
When the Silmarillion enters public domain??

>>87128553
What usually seems to happen in Hollywood is that the director says he's that guy, but then you watch the finished product and it looks like the director read the work once years ago, never understood the ethos, and then forgot half of it.

>>87127131
Idris Elba has spent more time living rent-free inside his head than inside white women.

>>87126598

Jackson would be a TERRIBLE choice for this, Silmarillion is mythology even within the setting of Middle Earth, the last thing it needs is a plodding literalist "muh realism" adaptation.

>>87140795
This. We need Snyder

>>87140817

Snyder would unironically be a better choice than Jackson. Not saying he;d be a GOOD choice, in fact he'd be fucking awful, but he'd be better than Jackson.

File: TN-Melkor_Weaves_Opposing_Music.jpg (32KB, 296x450px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 296x450px

Movie opens with a ten minute music battle between Melkor and Illuvatar.

>>87139235

The Vanyar never left the Undying Lands, they spent the whole time since the creation of the stars basking in the light of their gods.

>>87140850
Name a better director than Snyder, protip: you can't

He need miracles with 300

>>87138710

In the current climate there is literally no production company I would trust. MAYBE a Chinese company, if you could find one interested.

>>87136986

No-one knows, all we have are poetic accounts of him being "bigger than a mountain" which he almost certainly wasn't. Silmarillion is not "history" like Lord of the Rings and Hobbit are, it's the Bible of the Elves.

File: dfsjkjkdsafjk.png (195KB, 750x400px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 750x400px

>>87140795
And Jackson's version would probably have dumb jokes that fuck up the high noble beauty of the mythology.
Guy in pic might have been able to do a good version.

>>87140953

For an adaptation of Silmarillion? Del Toro would be my first pick.

>>87126576
Why and who cares?

>>87140930
This is all i want

>>87141003

Eh he might get the visuals right, or at least do something interesting with them, but his movies are not very deep and you need a deep thinker to tackle something as chaotic and messy as Silmarillion. Kubrick would be perfect, tho he'd probably take fifty years to finish shooting.

>>87141034
Yeah, cos he did wonders with the hobbit. Its because of that fat wetback that we've got sgit movirs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy7a6yUc8zo

>>87141203

He wasn't given the chance, I'm sure he would have made a wonderfully weird and whimsical Hobbit but Jackson wanted it and Del Taco felt obliged to let him have it.

>>87140930
Can it still be Howard Shore composing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JupPs_QVy0

File: 1504124564742.jpg (26KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 480x480px

Tolkien sure comes up witch lots of stupid names for things

>>87141427
Yeah it's stupid sounding but the names have meaning in the language he created.

File: Melkor-and-Ungoliant.jpg (453KB, 1464x939px) Image search: [Google]

453KB, 1464x939px

>>87140930
Why did Melkor insist on fucking everything up?

>>87141750

It's his nature, he is the embodiment of darkness, destruction, and cold.

>>87141750
>Melkor: fucking confirmed, get hype, hear my dubstep

>>87126576
i'd unironically give it to mel gibson.

>>87139235
They did fight, Sauron attacked Mirkwood and Lothlorien (three times, actually).

>>87130120
unironically ulmo

>>87130120
Morgoth unironically

>>87142061
>>87142163
You guys are being ironic, right?

>>87135144
>violent like the source material

aren't they kids books? My teacher read Redwall (first book I think) to my class in elementary school and it was great, but it was far from Game of Thrones or anything.

I agree about not wanting it done in the Dreamworks/Pixar style, but if it was done like Rango then it could work. That movie is underrated as fuck. I don't even think it was produced by an animation studio, either, just Industrial Light & Magic.

>>87142279

Morgoth has dark grey skin, Ulmo has blue skin. Either could be played by a google with facepaint.

>>87136986
how did Glaurung die of a single sword stab, its like a miniscule scratch to him

>>87142322
Well I was thinking about Morgoth in his armor like in this artwork:
>>87141750
Elba has a great voice that would suit Morgoth's presence. Kinda like Cumberbatch as Sauron in The Hobbit I guess? But I remember being really confused when I saw whichever movie it was where he voiced Sauron because they put so many filters on his voice that I didn't understand why they bothered casting Cumberbatch to begin with, but maybe he was in the studio already doing Smaug shit and they were like "hey can you read these lines"

>>87142494
Everything on that image is exaggerated. You don't have to be a huge fucker to decimate shit in Tolkien's work.

>>87142645

Sauron should have a reedy nerd voice, his whole schtick is "daddy doesn't respect me! I'll show HIM!"

>>87142494

It's mythology. Silmarillion is the "Bible of the Elves", it's not intended to be read as history like Lord of the Rings is.

>>87142692
Should be Kylo Ren then

>>87142726

Perfect desu.

Why does anyone pretend LOTR is good? It's all just overly-complicated shit with ten thousand made up languages and characters.

>>87142786
Go back to Harry potter faggot.

>>87142786
lmao dumb capecuck

Tolkein > Game of Feminists

>>87142714
it's also written in a very etherial, non-literal way.

And in regards to the original point of the thread, a movie based on the entire book would be a fucking mess, it'd be like making a movie based on the entire bible. Just like there are movies like The Ten Commandments or Noah, they could take one of the self-contained stories in The Silmarillion and adapt that.

IMO Beren and Luthien would be the easiest to translate to the screen and would be able to work as 1 film that's less than 3 hours. It wouldn't have to cost $250 million to make since there's no massive 45 minute battle in the movie, and it could have that /comfy/ feel that Fellowship of the Ring had. It markets itself too by being basically "Romeo & Juliet in Middle-Earth". I'm surprised it's not already in development.

File: R17g9g7.jpg (93KB, 600x649px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 600x649px

>>87142965
fugg, if it had a prologue narrated by Ian McKellen that's similar visually to this watercolor version of The Ainulindalë someone made it would be kino of the highest order

http://imgur.com/a/w6PZw

Why did the elves gave up on middle earth?

>>87143167
Because humans fucked it all up thanks a lot illuvitar

>>87126628
came here to post this

File: 1485184612472.jpg (273KB, 1200x947px) Image search: [Google]

273KB, 1200x947px

>>87129563
Reminds me of this painting that's based on Kalevala on which especially Truin Turambar's story is almost directly based on.

>>87142494
How did Eowyn fell an Oliphant?

>>87137451
Smaug sized, you brainlet.

>>87141224
>Arda starts out as a globe
WRONG

>>87126576
You could do a long flick in the style of the introductory scene of the first LOTR, where Galadriel is narrating. That's the only way ti would work, like a faux documentary of the history of middle earth. It would get old after like an hour though.

>>87144312
Because Tolkien was secretly imagining what we'd now call anime battles.