What made VHS superior?

>>87114950
Some movies unironically look better low def. Nothing worse than when you can tell a special effect is plastic or off putting cheap cgi

>>87114950
Nothing.

>>87115024
this DVD was the best

>>87114950
The comfy box art.

Getting laid with VHS playing on an old tv was far more comfy

I assume you mean compared to betamax. Betamax tapes had higher quality video but I think VHS tapes could hold more and the company that produced betamax tapes was anti pornography, so they never made porn betamax tapes. VHS did, though, so they made a lot more money from all the porn tapes they produced. Betamax simply couldn't compete at that point but they stuck to their guns and went under as a result.

>>87115132
i can only imagine..
getting laid

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>>87115069
>DVD

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>>87115162
This could be superimposed into a frame as a special effect and be cool as fuck. It reminded me of pic related.

The ads.

I grew up with VHS but I definitely feel like DVD was the best format. It has a more film like and natural look to the picture than meme-ray.

>>87115337
I actually liked the ads.

New formats don't have those, and I honestly have no idea what movies are coming out except for The Last Jedi sometime in Christmas.

>>87115142
Sony made Betamax. They nearly made the same mistake with Blu-Ray, but caved in because they really did not want to lose to Microsoft/HD-DVD. Their other proprietary storage units suck ass and and way too expensive.

>>87115350
>It has a more film like and natural look to the picture than meme-ray.
'No!'

they are digital storage, its not that DVD has a different "look" from meme rays. thing is, the industry felt it would be super cool for the 2010's to scan all classics and delete all grain from films and applying heavy softening photoshop effects, oh and also making 24fps proper movies into 60fps aberrations, because thats what customers want.

>>87115459
At least they learned their lesson the first time. They would definitely have failed again if they did the same thing with blu ray.

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HD DVD ≥ D VHS > BD.

This is an objective fact.

>>87115538

Yeah, that's the problem. Everything is scrubbed clean with stuff digitally enhanced and shiny looking. It's nothing like how the movies were in theaters.

>>87114950
Peer reviewed science, VHS is the superior format.
http://adequacy.org/stories/2001.8.24.112921.289.html

For those of you who care about internet history, this is where the early OG settlers of /b/ came from and its a disgrace this hasn't been posted already.

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>all these nostalgia fags thinking their dog shit quality is superior

The sound of the tape loading into the machine was satisfying as fuck desu.

>>87114950
VHS was not superior. Beta was superior. But VHS beat Beta to market, so there you have it. The rest is history.

Blu Ray>Laserdisc>DVD>shit>VHS

Nostalgiafags go fuck yourselves

>>87115142
VHS could record for 2hrs. People who were worried about missing the sportsball didn't care about video quality as much as record time, so they were the kingmakers. By the time Beta figured out how to match the 2hr record time of VHS at its base, VHS had already pushed that to six hours.

>>87117508
>VHS was not superior
It was, as evidenced by it's dominance, and D VHS having actual, full-length features in full HD.

>VHS beat Beta to market
No, it didn't.

Beta just sucked. The difference in quality was minimal (especially when viewed on displays of the time), but Beta couldn't hold nearly as much video, and cost MUCH more (the tapes AND the systems).

The only thing Beta did better was colour quality.

>>87114950
>What made VHS superior?
Absolutely fucking nothing.

>>87117696
If VHS wasn't superior it wouldn't have beaten betamax.

It was just good all around and became dominant enough to keep other formats that were marginally superior in some ways to overthrow it. Back when format wars were a thing, you really had to be leaps and bounds better than the competition to even stand a chance at getting customers to buy new tv equipment and to get retailers to stock your products alongside the billion other formats.

Betamax tapes were smaller, had better A/V quality but the tapes were more fragile and Sony were being jews with their licensing rights. JVC was chill af and the rest is history.

What does VHS stand for?

>>87117809
Of course it could.
It did.
The fuck is wrong with you?

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>>87117996

Van Halen Sucks.

>>87117534
Blu-ray is shit because there's no library. Just like dvd still doesn't have the same library as VHS did.

>>87118046
I didn't know VHS came with books

>>87115459
>offer 50 GB for the price of 30 GB
>lossless audio too
>mistake

So what's the final VHS release that isn't a hipster release?

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>>87118085

>>87115538

Couldn't agree more.

These "remasters" are being put through that look snazzy, but the original film never looked like that. It's basically the Playboy "airbrush everything away" approach.

>>87118020
>reading comprehension

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>>87115538
>scan all classics and delete all grain from films and applying heavy softening photoshop effects, oh and also making 24fps proper movies into 60fps
This has literally never happened. VHS looks like shit
>muh magnets
Tell me this doesn't have a nice finely reproduced film grain
You can't faggot

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>tfw VHS purist hipsters were bitching that Criterion's Blow Out looked too blue and then De Palma stated in an interview that the film stock actually caused that effect and that's what the movie actually looked like

>>87115635
They really didn't.

>Consumers virtually pleading with them to make a digital walkman.
>Refuse for several years because: Minidiscs
>iPod v1 comes out
>Release proprietary format digital player, because of Sony Records copyright concerns

Sony is good lesson in why Japanese-style megacorporate diversification isn't always a good thing.

>>87118102
A History of Violence

>>87118102

A History of Violence I think. I heard Beowulf got a VHS release but I don't like to remember that movie.

>>87118193
What's that?

>>87115727

How am I just now learning about D-VHS, that shit is amazing for the time.

My guess is that the capacity and resolution capabilities were premature for the televisions at the time. Nobody had a high def tv in 1998.

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BTFO

>>87118384
Obligatory Techmoan about D-VHS.

youtu.be/jiu0LPeLQPE

>>87118406
Right one has more charm to it.

>>87118224
>This has literally never happened. VHS looks like shit
He's talking about blu ray releases. Read.

>>87117809

Inferior formats beat better ones all the time. If you assume that VHS must have been better than Beta because it won, that is circular logic.

VHS won because it was cheaper, and because the recording times were more sensible, as well as longer. Also, many of the tests comparing picture quality nonsensically compared Beta II speed to VHS LP. That makes no sense because if you care about quality you'll use the fastest speed your machine has.

Compared to DVD and BluRay, VHS had a huge advantage: It existed for decades before the others showed up. You can also record off of TV with it - that is a very difficult PC-based process with BluRay. I wish they would make a BluRay ATSC version of this:

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DIGA-DMR-EH50-DVD-recorder/dp/B0009D5VJ8/ref=pd_sbs_504_6?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RY3Z5QQEGQ6EXJP4XCYH

>>87118485
More support is a type of superiority though.

>>87118448
>>87118384
It was definitely ahead of it's time. Just goes to show you that you can have a great idea and execute it pretty well, but it doesn't mean shit if there isn't a market for it.

>>87118406

Bull$3!t, why is your "VHS RIP" filled with giant compression artifacts? VHS is uncompressed.

>>87118485
>You can also record off of TV with it - that is a very difficult PC-based process with BluRay.
Bluray doesn't need to be able to record off TV because nobody uses physical media for recording in the age of DVR and capture cards.

>>87118567

How do I capture off of DirectTV to my hard drive?

>>87118448

Thank you for linking that, it was incredibly informative and I had no idea any of that had happened.

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>>87117626
>colour
>our
>u

>>87118479
I'm talking about Blu-ray too, hence the Blu-ray screenshot. You need to read the book How to Stop Being a Retarded Faggot.

>>87119378
>I'm talking about Blu-ray too
Then you're wrong. Look up the Predator release on Blu ray for the most egregious example.

>>87119166
I'm sorry that Americans don't know how to spell, but I'm not wrong.

>>87115538
>also making 24fps proper movies into 60fps aberrations
That's probably your TV that does that.

>>87119467

>being so beta you have to steal spelling from the french to make yourself feel more refined

The absolute state of britcucks.

>>87119720
Nigger are you serious? American English is almost notorious for its reeking French influence compared to Bonglish.

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>>87114950

>>87119925

Read history, faggo. Color and Colour, along with other U-added words, were both commonly used until the 18th century. Then, in order to be more sophisticated, Jolly Ol' decided the U would be official as it was thought to be more sophisticated.

America, being at the brink of war with Britain, refused to adopt it. That is why the US uses color and other colonies still under British rule like Canada and Australia use Colour.

American English is bastardized through mixing cultures with the French and Spanish. Not trying to look impressive.

>>87118276
>>87118290
From what I'm reading, that's the last VHS release in wide circulation.

Apparently they released Cars on VHS to Disney Movie Club members.

Last Hollywood movie was Eragon.

Last movie in general was Ponyo

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>>87115095
B movies on VHS had a lot more interesting covers than DVD. Nowadays most don't even get physical releases.

>>87120100

They focused on cover art because the contents within weren't worthwhile. They were hedging their bets on drawing people in before they found out what they were in for.

I love it actually. It's one of the portions of their craft where they put true effort in.

>>87119423
>one movie gets DNR treatment
>Citizen Kane, Blade Runner, Apocalypse Now, Spartacus, Lawrence of Arabia, Wizard of Oz, Casablanca, Barry Lyndon, The Godfather, Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Robocop, hundreds of other classics restored in 4K with the grain preserved perfectly and supervised by the director
>fuzzy ass VHS is somehow better

>>87120451

Give some credit to human fallibility though.

I won't lie that some of these releases are great, but you're talking about directors referencing works they had made decades beforehand. There's bound to be handwaving, "sure that's what it was meant to look like", forgetfulness, and general acquiescence when dealing with works that old.

It's far and beyond some interns applying photoshop filters to frames, but I wouldn't pass it as the be-all-end-all outside of simple frame restoration of original film.

>>87115538
>Blu-rays are actually encoded at 24 fps
>Baby boom-boom doesn't know how to turn off motion smoother on their TV
>prefers VHS which converted 24 fps movies to 29.97 fps

>>87115132
What a dumb thing to imply.

>>87114950
You could record longer than Betamax.

>>87120699
Nigger, fans who own 35mm prints of these films can share their own scans online and they more often than not look like the Blu-ray, these 4K masters based on actual telecine scans of the original camera negative (vs unsupervised, cropped, SD masters on VHS which factually has a lower color range and resolution and simply cannot replicate the look of 35mm) are as close to the original theatrical experience as you can get

Blu-ray > VHS > DVD

I wish 24fps purists would go die in a hole somewhere.

Any sort of camera panning or movement makes me feel motion sick with how choppy it is.

>>87121078

Are you watching on a 120hz or higher display? How do you manage in a fucking theater??

>>87115538
You are fucking retarded

>>87118046
Yeah vhs had tons of shit movies but I don't know why you think that matter

>>87114950
VHS was a lot more sturdy.
DVDs used to scratch pretty darn easily.
Half the time I rented a DVD the movie stuck at some point because of scratches and stains.
I got tired of that shit and that's how I discovered torrents.

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>you'll never be a kid again recording recording cartoons on VHS and rewatching them over and over

I still have my tapes

>>87120811
It's useless arguing with a nostalgiafag man just let them live in their delusion

DVD was the best so far. Blu-Ray gets frustrating because of the licensing shit.

>>87121078
>I wish people who don't want their movies to look like a jerky mess would go die in a hole somewhere.

>>87120811
>>87121426
You can try to save face all you like, samefag.
Meme-ray is garbage, just accept it.

>>87121885

>DO YOU WANT TO CONNECT THIS BLU RAY TO THE INTERNET?

it's like they can't just fuck off and let me watch my flick.

>>87115538
Does criterion do this?
And name some films that have done photoshop

>>87114950
VHS had a better catalog that's about it. You could get fucking anything in VHS. I guess it's not like that with DVD and Blu Rays because if the internet but still. There are still some movies (or versions of movies) you can only get in VHS

>>87114950
the low quality, the color bleeds, the banding errors, the reeling noise, the garbled sound, the blocky feel, the cheap hollow plastic feel for only 20 dollars

>>87121363
When DVDs first started coming out I had a built in VCR TV that could record whatever was on the screen. I would go to a rental place and rent a bunch of DVDs, hook them up to that TV and record movies and cartoons to VHS tapes. I still have Evangelion on VHS and a bunch of other stuff. I'd make "mix tapes" with episodes of different shows too. I thought I was smart as fuck.

>>87118539
because its a rip, dummy

>>87118448
Never heard of this guy but holy shit this channel is amazing.

Thanks for sharing.

>>87114950
Nothing. DVD was objectively superior, and Blu-ray is objectively superior to DVD.

>>87118448
Guess you learn something new everyday.

>>87122521
If you don't want a jerky mess, use the correct shutter speed.

>>87115538
It's really mind blowing that some people are still afraid of bluray restorations in 2017.

>>87124364
can you blame them? a lot of them are pretty terrible

>>87124376
No, the same cherry picked examples from 7 years ago are, which means some people have seen so few HD films they believe that's what they all look like, and conversely believe SD is infallible and the right way to watch

>>87115142
>Betamax
>went under
They continued being used in professional capacities. I worked in a TV studio in the early 2000's and we were running shows off Beta.

>>87122847
Disney's remaster/re-release of Sword in the Stone is notoriously fucked up. Takes the original and turns it into a mess of sloppy, blurred linework and poorly blended, oversaturated colors.

>>87124466
Sony actually produced them until about a year ago, a ton of studios used them for trasfer/backups. I think a few third party manufacturers still pump em out too.

>>87124895
laserdisc master race

>>87115538
>they are digital storage
Its literally the opposite of that you twat. VHS is an analog storage system of magnetized strip. You can dig one up in 100 years and nigger-rig something together that will be able to read/play it.

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>>87124364
are you seriously going to hold it against me for being averse to shit like this?

>>87125419
That's not a "restoration"

>>87125419
not the guy you've been replying to, but i would imagine that hand-drawn animated films are a lot harder to restore/remaster than regular films.

>>87121363
Did you ever hook up 2 vcrs and record a Blockbuster movie on to a blank tape?