New Sky Atlantic series "Britannia" will finally a

>>87066792
>First world countries are now actively trying to rewrite their own history
kek. White people really are the master race

>>87067195
AND SHIIIIET

Actually, nego legionaries in any part of the empire is not out of the question. Rome owned Moecia, Egypt (which owned Nubia), and Numidia, giving them plenty of access to blacks. Pretty much any foreigner that could fight and wasn't already a slave could join the legion. It was the best way for a man to gain citizenship within the empire. After that it is likely they would be shipped off far from their home so they are less likely to defect and will identify more with Roman culture than their former culture.

So a black legionary in Britannia is entirely plausible. It's not like it attests to any quality inherent in black people one way or the other. It just attests to the expanse and practices of the Roman Empire.

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Is it a prerequisite of making a historical drama that the costuming has to be horrendous?

>>87067431
There we go again...

>>87067431
>It just attests to the expanse and practices of the Roman Empire.
lel
The only thing this shit attests to is to how much europe loves that BBC.

>>87067549
UK and it's cuck loving ways are actively trying to separate themselves from Europe. Keep the cancer in quarantine on the island where it belongs.

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>>87067469
>tfw literally not one piece of media be it a film or tv show or documentary has portrayed late Roman soldiers accurately

>>87067596
>implying the rest of western europe isn't just as bad
50 years from now, Eastern Europe will be the only thing worth a damn in that continent.

>>87067431
Isn't Moesia in Serbia?

>>87067431
>Roman african legion
>probably tan jihadi looking fellows
>casts darkest actor they can find

>>87067431
Only Nubia was black. Nubia was never romanised and it's highly unlikely any possible Nubian in the legions would be sent over to Britain when there'd be much closerby legions and manpower. It's blackwashing.

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>>87066792
looking good can't wait for more romans beating the shit out of druids and brits alike

>>87067431
Numidians were Berbers, not black. Nubians range from not much darker than Mediterraneans to very dark but no legions were ever raised in Nubia. Two were raised in Upper Egypt, which is the closest thing. One was wiped out shortly after it was founded and the other was deployed to Thrace, not Britain, and was destroyed at the Battle of Adrianople.

Showing anyone black looking in Britain is just historical revisionism.

>>87067431
A Roman settlement was found as far south as South Africa, it was on the Indian Ocean side South East.

>>87067721
Meant Mauretania, got my Roman Provinces confused.

Looks shit and once again touched by liberals but I'll watch since I'm not really interested in anything else and historical stuff is always nice

>>87067431
>le numdians were black meme
numidia is in Algeria not the depths of the Congo

>>87068069
But a settlement was found further south. Back to /pol/ wit ye.

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>>87068069
Don't be silly anon, just look at all these black people

>>87067976
>A Roman settlement was found as far south as South Africa
Anon don't be an idiot, that's logistically impossible.

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anyone have a date for when it starts?

>>87068164
how far south, beyond the Sahara? you know that massive fucking desert?

>>87068069
SOMEONE HAS TO BE BLACK YOU ASSHOLE
ITS BEEN THIS WAY SINCE AT LEAST 2017
GEEZ

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>>87067976
>A Roman settlement was found as far south as South Africa, it was on the Indian Ocean side South East.
please be bait

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>>87067626
You know they'd just complain that they don't "look Roman"

>>87068234
>>87068219
A settlement was found on the Indian ocean side, way south. A thousand plus years later a castle or tower was built on top the remnants.

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>>87068324

>>87066792
Lets fucking downvote that shit my fellow anonymuz legion

>>87068166
I only see ebonic people there

>>87068324
Sounds like bullshit to me anon

Southern Africans built stone forts to use as cattle enclosures, which might be what you're thinking of.

>>87067626
this, in the mayority of time they don't hire meds

>>87068366
Read it somewhere. It was covered by vegetation.

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>>87068324
What evidence do you have of this?

>>87068324
WE

>>87068506
To be fair to that anon, the Romans DID go to sub-Saharan Africa, but there doesn't seem to be any many settlements, just exploration and plundering.

>>87068557
I read it. They're there digging shit up even now. You'll probably get a Discovery special from it.

>>87068166
i knew an algerian guy and he was literally whiter than me. you wouldn't have been able to tell he was algerian if it wasn't for his weird name, rat face, and his predisposition to molest drunk girls at parties.

Firts Troy with black Achilles, Patroclos and Zeus, now this shit. And they always blackwash heroes, why not make a movie with a black actor portraying Hitler?

>>87068554
>>87068622
do you have a link? was the website the Atlanta Black Star?

>>87067431
All the evidence we have is of North Africans, and even they were few and far between. Time to destroy that like bar.

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>>87068166
WE

>>87068303
Wasn't that the issue? Almost nobody in the actual Legion was actually Italian by the 2nd Century AD. The closest you'd get is Illyrians.

>>87066792
a black man in a roman army is pretty much guaranteed as they ruled over some black lands in africa, and it's quite possible and believable one would get sent north in a campaign

that being said i have absolutely zero doubt they just put a nigger in because they're a bunch of faggot kikes pushing for diversity and niggerify and general destruction of europe with 100 million more boat shitskins that are not just worthless but horribly detrimental to our society.

gas the bikes race car now, we will P U R G E soon

>>87068671
I'm talking about their armor you dingdong

>>87068601
>>87068661
I don't read Nigger shit. It was science something or another.

>>87067431
>dude! everyone in africa is sub-saharan black!
westerners are, in my humble opinion, are a bunch of dumb fucks when it comes to geopolitics and ethnic groups. you'd think after having conquered the world, they'd have a bit more knowledge on these things

>it a /pol/ screeches about 'muh historic revisionism' and don't do anything but moan about it on 4chan episode

re-runs suck, i'm changing the channel.

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ERAT
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EXCREMENTUM

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>>87067431
>nego legionaries in any part of the empire is not out of the question
Negro legionaries in around the 1st century AD are absolutely out of the question. Only citizens could serve in the legions, and only Italians were citizens at this time. There were auxiliary troops from all over the place, but even the famed WE WUZ Numidians were from TUNISIA AND ALGERIA, not sub saharan Africa. The Romans were certainly aware of niggers, but they were very limited in numbers and never formed any regular army units.

Pic related are the direct descendants of the "black" Numidians.

>>87068712
the fact that you have no link and google gets me nothing can only mean it's bullshit

>>87068744
That's true. They did. There are dead black Roman slaves in England as well. Who cares? It'll shut the SJW up.

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>>87068744
>moors were black
honestly i blame american education for letting them believe this

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>>87068693
>a black man in a roman army is pretty much guaranteed as they ruled over some black lands in africa, and it's quite possible and believable one would get sent north in a campaign
But we know for a fact from 5th century sources that only two legions were ever raised in parts of Africa that could sort of be considered "black", if you consider pic related black. One remained in its home province and the other was sent to Thrace. Neither ever went to Britain.

>>87067469
The equipment of those troops is about 350 years more modern than whatever the show seems to be portraying. It's like dressing soldiers from the English civil war in ww2 uniforms.

>>87068799
>slaves
Yeah, they had black SLAVES.

>>87067431
WE WUZ NUBIANS AND SHEEIT

>>87068799
AYO
HOL UP
SO YOU BE SAYIN
WE WUZ
...
...
slaves?

>>87067431
>egypt

WE

>thats actually a main character not some extra
god damn it britbongs

>>87068860
it doesn't matter who they are. what matters is their plan.

>>87068776
Listen son, I shit shit, I don't talk shit. If I read something then it was proposed by some science types. They're still digging. Meaning they found something but they're not sure if the old stuff they found proof enough of a settlement or that dudes who probably lived there simply traded with the Romans.

>>87068712
>cant back up his claims
>tells people to go back to /pol/ instead

based retard

>>87068998
Oh yes, I'm sure this exists and you aren't just making it up.

>>87069001
Listen you cock sucking, shit eating, pus gurgling dumb bitch, when I read something I don't bookmark it or save the page for the off chance I'd come across a cock gobbler wanting to do forensic extrapolations.

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>>87066792

>>87069138
You can go suck Tyrone Martin's dick.

>>87069153
>>87069226
You're the one making up stories to fellate nigger fantasies.

>>87068728
but we didn't conquer the world. it was black romans that did

>>87069153
>JUST BELIEVE MY AHISTORICAL RAMBLING ITS TOTALLY TRUE... YOU BIGOTS

blow your head off faggot

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>>87068998
you're full of shit and you know it. if you were being serious you would have posted proof by now.

To be the Rome army did have auxiliaires from Africa.

>>87069268
>>87069315
>>87069329

Listen you stupid cunts, if I said I read it, then I read it. I fucking read it.

I'm honestly shocked at the current state of this website. Yeah, we made racist jokes sometimes, but it was all fun, right? At the end of the day, we all voted for Obama, we all supported gay marriage, and we all opposed racist conservative christians. But now? Our entire fucking site is subverted because of fucking nazis.

The internet is OUR platform. the LIBERAL platform. Racism, sexism, misogyny, were all confirmed to be left in the past because millenials are the most left-wing generation of all time. So why in the FUCK, do we still have to deal with nazis IN TWENTY-FUCKING-SEVENTEEN? Despite how much you wanna cry about how it's just a conspiracy and a boogeyman, Russian hackers ARE real, and this site is proof. We went from one of the most liberal sites in the world to supporting Orange Fucking Hitler? Nah, that's not normal progression because people only get more liberal with age, just like how you get smarter with age.

Threads like these just show that we need MUCH more strict moderation around here. I'm sick of all of this shit. Fuck Nazis, Fuck Fascists, Fuck Hitler, Fuck Trumpf, Fuck White Pride, and FUCK REPUBLICANS.

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>>87069390
dont reply to me anymore

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>>87066792
>BAIDERZ

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>>87068945
Set in AD 43, the series follows ancient Rome's conquest of the Celts in the British Isles — "a mysterious land ruled by wild warrior women and powerful druids who can channel the powerful forces of the underworld." Celtic rivals Kerra and Antedia must work together to fight off the Roman invasion led by Aulus Plautius.

hmmm, it sure does sound like he is the main character to me sweety

>>87069390
I say you're a dumb faggot, you're a dumb faggot.

>>87069444
The number one thing I hate about this pasta this idea that 4chan didn't vote third party.

>>87069576
>ruled by wild warrior women

>>87067431

Roman soldiers could elevate themselves in rank and become citizens after becoming freed men. No way in fuck they would allow that.

I'm sure they had some swarthy brothers as mercenaries but not actual soldiers of the army.

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>>87069617
hmmmmm

you sure ain't educated well are you buttercup?

>>87069552
actually does play the first governor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulus_Plautius

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I cant wait to see how many white British women he'll impregnate

>>87069475
listen you cunt, I will piss all over you.

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>>87069849
sounds hot

>>87069721
>One brief rebel leader = "land ruled by warrior women"

>>87069686
Significant development of the Auxilia appears to have taken place during the rule of the emperor Claudius (41–54 AD).
A minimum term of service of 25 years was established, at the end of which the retiring auxiliary soldier, and all his children, were awarded Roman citizenship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxilia

>>87066792
What are the chances that some pure as fuck Aryan forest nymph gets BLACKED because one of the writers has a fetish?

>>87070022

Which conforms to what I said, that doesn't give you a set of bones that you could dna test. Nor does it give you a rank list of who was in the army and when and where they came from nor bones of those people you could test.

No evidence, at all.

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>>87069949
hmmmm

>>87066792
DUDE
LET'S JUST CASUALLY AND INCREASINGLY MAKE CHARACTERS IN HISTORICAL PIECES BLACK UNTIL EVERYONE BELIEVES THAT EVERYONE ALWAYS HAD A HEALTHY MULTICULTURAL 20% BLACK POPULATION LMAO

>>87070226

liberals are populated with wishywashy faggots that want to have perfect utopian shit. So in order to make that work, you need to rework history so everyone was always there and always fit.

otherwise you'd have to exclude people.

Liberals dominate acting.

Guess what's always been there then. Only reason you care is they're being more blatant about it now.

>>87069444
Damn, I didn't know I was Russian. My grandma's gonna kill me.

>>87070177
When are you going to refute the fact 99.9% of tribal leaders and warriors were men and the notion of Britain being a land "ruled by wild warrior women" is nonsense.

>>87069794
All of them. Where do you think Australians come from?

>>87069721
Some bitch used as a figurehead and later - source material for countless roman femdom fanfics - is now proof that Britain was a matriarchy? Today I learned indeed, upboated!

Rather than "Black Washing" white history, why don't they make programs that have black history in it? This is ridiculous, they've still not learned that forced diversity in shows usually results in the shows failing.

Customer Complaints
Sky Subscribers Services Ltd
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>>87070609
>hello, sky subscribers services
>it has come to my attention that your show features a nigger out of place in space and time

>>87070839
The anon that did this and recorded it would go down in history.

>>87070839
>thank you for voicing your concerns
>let me redirect your call to local police department
>we wish you a good day and hopefully you won't cancel your subscription for the period of your incarceration

>>87066792
What the actual feed?

>>87070839
>out of place in space and time
>his name, Space Cop

>>87067431
there's no way they'd let a black guy become a soldier

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>>87066792
>history is racist so let's rewrite it

>>87071402
Why not? The US armed forces did.

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>>87067431
no it is actually pretty much out of the question. In fact, when rome levied local units they formed their own auxilia they did not get to become legionaires until fully romanized that's why we don't hear about Legio VVE VVUZ because even if Nubians were conscripted (i dont believe they ever were) they'd form their own units.
Carthage was was really the only one to ever explore subsaharan africa, and it is a Punic word that we have the word Gorilla from.

>>87067431
this guy is right, serving in the roman legion was the best way for non romans to gain citizenship for themselves and their families. legionaires would have come in all races that existed during roman times (except for possibly east asian), because rome was fucking huge.

I agree with the whole blackwashing to push a liberal agenda on the masses, but this is not one of those cases, or at the very least, not one to get upset over.

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I just don't like black people, there I said it

>>87071402

its possible, but I doubt they would be sent to britain, more likely they were used in north african war operations

>>87071511
what you talking about the white guys are gay and the white woman is with the black man just like real life.

>>87071715

>Black people in Britain

>Not an egregious case.

You cannot make what they're doing rational. You also have 0 evidence to support any reasonable argument.

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>>87071553
>Why not?
because contrary to what styxderpenhammer and the BBC news network wants you to think Romans were extremely racist and would have immediately seen that blacks on average were incapable of the complex maneuvers and discipline required to serve in a Legion.

>>87071715
>legionaires would have come in all races that existed during roman times
only in conquered territories and the amount of different "races" that were in the Roman expanse was pretty limited. Basically semites and arabs were as exotic as it got back then. They did not have much dealings with subsaharan africans / Aksum / Kushite shit.

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>>87067431
The point is that while the idea of non-European legionaries might not be logically impossible, their real numbers would have been entirely insignificant.

Romans were European. Britons are European.
These are totally innocuous statements of fact.

That (mainly) white leftists feel the need to go out of their way to portray Romans or ancient Britons or medieval Europeans as being black or having visible black populations is a sign of their mental illness or political obsession with ethnic diversity, which itself is a new dogma bordering on mental illness anyhow.

It's not the fact that black legionaries didn't exist, it's the fact that at the end of the day they may as well not have existed, but now we're constantly being reminded about them as part of some creepy revisionist multiculturalist political agenda of the modern white left.

It would be like if a trend appeared where Romans, Britons, or medieval Europeans were consistently and disproportionately portrayed as either being dwarfs or having a significant/visible dwarf makeup. Of course dwarfs are real and have always existed, but that's not the point. Going out of your way to portray the average and representative Roman or Briton as a black man is about as reasonable as trying to portray your average and representative Roman or Briton as a dwarf. It's bizarre and contrived and forced purely by self-loathing white people who want to rewrite white history to be more inclusive of those who played virtually no part in it.

Actually it's worse than that, because I'm sure that Roman and medieval Britain would have had significantly more dwarfs than non-Europeans, so the comparison doesn't even do justice to how retarded the idea of casting visibly non-white people as Romans and Britons is.

Britain has been a pretty homogenous country up until very recently. Trying to justify demographic-changing mass-immigration with this sort of historical revisionism amounts to little more than ethnic gaslighting.

>>87071794
>It's not the fact that black legionaries didn't exist, it's the fact that at the end of the day they may as well not have existed
this right here

>>87066792
>qt from Calvary playing celtic hottie and the broomstick trainer from harry potter confirmed
I'm in

WE WUZ EVERYTHING N SHIET

the /pol/ brain-washing is almost as bad as the Euro centrist shills

Jesus

>>87071794
Well put.

I feel more and more like that Chink every day I spend on the Internet.

>>87072195
>I'm a butthurt muhpol and I'm too dumb for the conversation but the suspected racism is triggering my programming

>>87066792
why didn't they just cast a north african dude if they wanted "diversity" while staying historically accurate? Is that not diverse enough now or something?

>>87072195

Name a single thing with a credible source that has black legionnaires in Roman military. Do not post shit about African legions because people that made up those legions were Mediterranean, not dark black sub-saharan soldiers.

Same with people that lived in Carthage who were descendants on Phoenicians.

The people that live on coast of North Africa look very different from who used to live there. Egypt's arabization included.

>>87068873
Slavery in Rome was different. They enslaved all races and didn't treat them like animals for a farm. Unlike American Slavery which is why it's viewed as the worst.

>>87072195
This, all I see is alt right manbabies getting triggered in the comments and in this thread. They are just as bad as SJW's.

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>>87071794

>>87072401

We adopted rigid ideas about slavery from people like the Cherokee.

Some native tribes allowed for manumission from slaves in terms of elevating ones bloodline out of slavery that was different from how British view slavery, especially as they went away from using indentured servants because of how easy it was for them to escape their contracts compared to west africans that couldn't blend in with rest of white population.

>>87071715
>legionaires would have come in all races


no. legionaires as a law where mostly 99.9% Italian roman men. the auxiliary is where the "multiculturalism" happened.

said multiculturalism consisting of a shit ton of Germans and pre Islamic durka archers.

Is there anything niggers wuzn't?

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>>87068744
>moors were black

>>87072578
black, because that's racist

>>87068744
WE WUZ MOOPS AN SHIET

>>87068744
>muh moors
IF I SEE THIS FUCKING "BLACK MOOR" MEME ONE MORE TIME

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>the ride never ends...

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>>87072736
>MOOPS

>>87072800
>channel is literally called the BBC

really makes you think

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Never mind the black guy. What's Lord Voldemort doing in Roman Britain?

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>>87066792
>Magic and shit
>Roman shites march in and happen to have one black guy in their ranks
>/tv/ gets assblasted
Normally I agree with the sentiment that there's too much forced diversity but in this one I saw one black guy out of hundreds of white people and he's not even supposed to be british.
You're hurting your own cause when you lash out at everything and everything. You're behaving exactly like the sjw's.

>>87069576
>mysterious land ruled by wild warrior women
mmmm gotta get that dose of feminist delusion
how long do you think it'll take them to show a stronk independent celt womyn fighting romans in close combat and winning?

>>87067431
>1
>literal w wuzzing
Wow, I thought it was a meme.

>>87073169
Alt righters are even easier to trigger than SJWs at this point

>>87066792
Why is it always black people? Never any other non-white race.

>region blocked

here, this gets around the region block: https://www.youpak.com/watch?v=lC1ZdVDffCs

same video

>>87073169
>You're behaving exactly like the sjw's.
SJWs have made a lot of headway by constantly being in the ear of content creators.

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There were black Romans, stfu you faggots.

>>87074848

>Art created long after the history happened

>Look at this evidence that has no basis in reality
>Look

>>87074966
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_in_Ancient_Roman_history

>>87074561
Because modern politics is nothing but a carefully constructed shitstorm to keep people distracted and confused

Can't wait to watch the governor BTFO druids and bongs, FOR THE GLORY OF MOTHER ROME!

>>87066792
They cannot hide their blatant white genocide agenda any longer.

Have niggers really created nothing of value in all of history that they have to appropriate other race's accomplishments?

>>87073169
because it's set in "Britain"
Not Middle Earth, but a real life place.
Yes there's magic in this story but it's trying to tie it to a real life place in time when Romans were taking over.
If you intentionally set it in a real place, you need to abide with the real life rules as much as possible when dealing with non-magical stuff. While the magic in the series will no doubt let them do all kinds of weird and wacky shit, do you honestly believe they're going to say the soldier's black because a wizard made him so? And even if so, what purpose would that serve that doesn't throw away any suspension of disbeilef and not come off as a really contrived method that the writers came up with just to meet a producer order?
If a magical tale is set in a real place and time it must obey real life rules for everything that the magical aspect doesn't touch. You won't have some general casually talk about Sun Tzu being a big influence in his tactics in a scene because it's a too far a freaking stretch to expect that to be a perfectly acceptable thing that can be glossed over.

Same with white guys in samuari movies even though it's got magic in them. There we actually have cases of white dudes becoming samurai in real life, but for a film to treat it as not a big deal because there's "magic" is just silly.

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>>87075326

>>87074986
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_in_Ancient_Roman_history
>Not one reference to them being anywhere near northern Europe.

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>>87066792
>not available in your country

>>87075910
fuck, btfo

>Histories of ages past
>Unenlightened shadows cast
>Down through all eternity
>The crying of humanity

Thats a great song for a historical trailer.

Who cares if they're black or not, if seeing black people on tv triggers you maybe you need a safe space.

REGUM NOBIS ESSET ET STERCORE

>>87067431
Romans didn't start to let foreigners into the military into well into the decline of the empire when the goths and huns started to invade. You're full of shit. And out of all places Britannia?

HOW THE FUCK IS A FUCKING NIGGER GOING TO GO THAT FAR FUCKING NORTH

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>REEE BLACK PEOPLE

Why is the right so sensitive?

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>>87066792

>>87079709
Are you fucking retarded? Are you unironically suggesting that before 300AD there wasnt a single non-Roman (i.e. from the Italian peninsula) in the Legion?

Pseudo-history and revisionism is that way senpai.

>>>/pol/

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WE

>>87067976
I see someone must watch all those shitty documentaries on Jewflix. Moderation is key.

>>87079780
non-roman? No there were. There were mercenaries. They were not involved in the Legionaries like this showsed.

Not to mention the romans were xenophobic as fuck so far as to build a massive fucking wall in britannia to keep the "savages" out, they weren't about to let a fucking dark skinned person in

>>87079943

When do you get to the part where you use the "Multiculturalism is what caused the fall of Rome" card, like every other uninformed poltard?

>>87079980
THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED YOU STUPID RETARD

The loss of traditional values, mix of religion, loss of loyalty after integration into the military TO THE POINT THAT THEY TURNED ON THEM, all resulted in the loss of the western empire

>>87079943
Dont move the goalposts. You were saying there no non-Romans in the legion. Now your claiming that auxiliaries are part of the Roman Legions.

Make up your mind kiddo.

>they weren't about to let a fucking dark skinned person in

Actually Romans were more concerned about class and social hierarchy within the Roman empire, than skin color or race. In Rome itself it was a different story. Non-Romans definitely had a hard time climbing the political ladder when coming from some province.

>>87079980
>Its another /pol/ blames multiculturalism and not Christianity spreading like a wildfire among slaves and lower classes episode

>>87079943
Dunno about all that. Romans seemed more about population control and taxation with walls and settlements like that imo. They could likely teach our politicians a thing or two on propaganda that we're inundated with 24/7 too.

>>87080071
>citation needed

>>87080071

So you are uniformed. Got ya.

Don't you feel dirty after you pretend to know all of these things you talk about on the internet? I know I would.

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>mfw fall of rome is due to liberalism and women

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>>87069576
>wild warrior women
This has to be stopped

>>87066792
There was a documentary about the Romans expedition into Britain, I believe they found skeletons of black roman soldiers.
This was during the construction of Hadrian's Wall. Apparently there was an attack or revolt in some sector and the general/governor plus his guards were captured. They were found bound and appeared to have been executed, the general/governor was headless. There were in fact blacks in the Roman legion and they were in Britain, dicking you down and helping to build put up the wall

>>87067721
I thought she had a show on UPN?

Were the Celts even matriarchal? Wild warrior women? Seems like a stretch. I could see women fighting in defense of their mud huts.

>>87080148
Actually it was due to various factors, mostly to do with corruption, a non-ability to climb the social ladder and due to lack of militaristic professionalism due to lack of incentives to climb said ladder. Add to that Christianity poisoning the minds of millions of slaves, developments in both technology of warfare, new tribes migrating around and lastly a lack of desire to adapt to changing times and completely incompetent emperors.

But yes, it was the Jews and the Marxists that brought about the fall of the Roman Empire.

>>87075824
>white guys in samurai movies
To be fair this is because a samurai movie with a white guy is usually based on William Adams who we know existed and we know was white. Or they're passed off as half-Asian from a white sailor and Japanese woman.

>>87080131
>>87080115
>>87079943
Do tell then, what were you told were the reasons the western roman empire fell?

>>87080200
*The roman guards/soldiers were proven to be black btw

>>87066792
>Ceasar loves roman more than apes

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>>87080250
That historical black cock is expensive you know. Don't waste it.

>>87080244
Not to mention the white protagonist acts as the foreigner to the people watching the film, who themselves are white and foreign to asia and learn about the culture as the protagonist does

the fact that the protagonist is african in a movie about britannia by uk is multiple levels of sad irony

>>87072401
lmao good b8

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>>87080286
I'm more excited for the Greek shows that will properly show how people of color help set the foundations to Western Philosophy.

>>87080336
>implying liberals don't think all Greeks were brown
I'm sure it'd be full of gay sex too

>>87080336
what's stupid is I'd actually like to follow the story of a foreigner who somehow ends up in the roman legion when they come to his land and he goes from a mercenary to being "one of them" because like >>87080286 said it could be pretty easy to write it so that the audience learns as he does of roman culture considering the high majority of people have no fucking idea
but you can't just drop a fucking african in britain as a legionnaire and expect everyone to be fine with it. I mean fuck the guy could be Chinese and it wouldn't be any different.

>>87066792
Jesus fucking Christ.

STONEHENGE WAS NOT BUILT OR USED BY THE DRUIDS. IT'S FROM A PREVIOUS CIVILIZATION.

Fucking dropped. What the fucking fuck.

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>>87080283
No need to bleach it, you don't bleach colors.. barbarian

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>>87080406
also this, did I skip timelines again or were "warrior women" or is this just out of left field for you guys too?

>>87080366

>I'm sure it'd be full of gay sex too

I dont see much wrong into this. Two platonic dialogues are filled with homosexuality to some extent.

>>87080411
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Fucking Normies

>>87080465
Do you mean dialogues as in conversation?

>>87075910
Fucking a. We need more like him
>also it was a good game series

>>87080453
43 ad is Boudicca's timeframe

>>87080501

>Do you mean dialogues as in conversation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_dialogue

Look up the dialogues "On love" by Plato. Filled with gay stuff (but lots interesting things).

>white Britannia is conquered by a multicultural horde of foreigners
What did they mean by this?

>>87079662
If you have to force ethnicities into history maybe you need a safespace. Or therapy

Blacks ain't go no culture, so they gotta steal it from others.

Always the way things were, always the way things will be.

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Romans were actually black though, same with the eqyptians aswell as a good majority of the so called "vikings"

>>87080073
>blames Christianity for fall of Rome
>who is Constantine
Jesus you're fucking dumber than he is. This isn't Reddit faggot

>>87068624
>weird name, rat face, and his predisposition to molest drunk girls at parties.
yeah thats north africans alright lmao

>>87067431
Historian here. This is 100% true.

Rome was racist sure, but they weren't racist to just blacks. They were racist to everyone who wasn't from Rome. That doesn't mean they weren't going to employ a foreigner as a soldier. Romans made it a point to include everyone, but also force them to change so that other people valued Roman culture, ideas, and community above their own.

Like, for fuck sakes, one of the emperors was an arab. Why is an african becoming a legionnaire so hard to fathom?

Anyway, this show is going to be trash because it's clearly ripping off of GoT which every show that tried that has failed. It looks super fucking hollywood especially with that multicultural casting. I'm going to defend the fact there were black soldiers in roman times, but I'm not a retard, the show only has black actors to meet a quota and the black characters will almost definitely be flawless compared to all the white characters.

The actual story of Boudica is not that interesting and exists almost entirely as a paragraph in an ancient historical text. She fights against the roman empire, loses and gets raped and whipped, along with her two daughters.

>>87080537
doesn't seem to help, they were ruled kings not matriarchs
>>87080635
the fact that he considers Christianity the source of it's fall when Byzantine went to rule for over a thousand fucking years later shows he's a moron

>>87080073
>>Its another /pol/ blames multiculturalism and not Christianity
>being Christian in Rome was multicultural
>Eastern Rome lasted longer than your country's government
what's worse, /pol/tards or Redditors? I can't decide which is the more ironic cancer

>>87080668
I'm not going to bother arguing on whether the black legionnaire is historically accurate but it should be pretty fucking obvious how people will be upset about a movie with deep ties to the history of Britain has multiple leads of non-British decent.
I mean imagine the inverse of that

>>87080613
.. interesting, I've heard that before many times
It wasn't about blacks though

>>87080668
>historian
>arab emperor
lmao, nigger you don't even know what arabs are

>>87080668
>one of the emperors was an arab
excuse me what?

>>87080635
>>87080676

Holy fucking shit you people are delusional. Who the fuck is talking about Byzantium? Were talking about Rome you plebs. Stop perpetually moving the fucking goal posts.

>>87080784
wew lad

>>87080668
oh fuck off they went so far as to commit genocide against the gauls for being "savages" there is no fucking way they'd handle a fucking african. They were obsessed with roman superiority and were insanely strict about the military, they would never risk losing even the image of unity

>african being able to afford the gear to become a legionnaire
I guess it's possible but not likely.

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>>87066792

A nation (the UK) that in 2017 is only 3% black - literally 97% of the population is not black - not only is so terrified of being called racist that they make 1/3 of all characters in their tv/movie entertainment black but ALSO make 1/3 of the characters in depictions of their history black, even in time periods where virtually all their citizens would have gone their entire lives without ever seeing a black person and probably lived their entire lives believing they were something from fairy-tales like goblins or sprites.

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>>87080784
>Who the fuck is talking about Byzantium? Were talking about Rome you plebs.
this is poetry

>>87080784
>Holy fucking shit you people are delusional. Who the fuck is talking about Rome? Were talking about Rome
kek. Kys

>>87080784
>Byzantium is not Rome
WEW

>>87080827
I this some American thing were you didnt learn the difference between Rome and Byzantium?

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>>87080784
this post hurts

>>87080849
Let me guess you thought the Holy Roman Empire was Roman?

there were black people in the roman empire, usually as entertainers or involved in athletics. them being legionnaires though...yeah idk bout that

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>>87066792
Doesnt look toooo bad, only thing that triggered me was how blue the picts clothes were, looks like something from a power rangers movie, meh

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>>87080832
>>87080835
>>87080856
>>87080827

>American "education"

>>87080849
If you honestly think that Rome and Byzantium are two different entities then either your country's education failed or you were too braindead to pay attention.

>>87080757
Philip the Arab. He was from the Arabian peninsula and probably of Syrian / Punic / Phoenician ethnicity. Know that this is way before Islam.

>>87080796
Julius Caesar allowed a number of Gauls to join the Senate. He did this to enrage the Senate, not necessarily for any progressive reasons admittedly.

>>87080893
what's the name of the woman? Pretty sure they were ruled by Kings

>>87080849
t. Attila

>>87080797
Their gear was owned by the legion I believe

>>87080849
My school was in the middle of bumfuck no where and we learned this. Maybe his state didn't teach that much history but it's more likely he's just an idiot

>>87080896
Just stop you're embarassing yourself

>>87080914
Syrians are white moron

>>87080916
Boadicea maybe?,good actress but dont know if shes fitting for that role.

>>87080849
>>87080896
are you retarded faggets ?
Im sure even a quick google search will tell you the original name of Byzantium

>>87080914
>He did this to enrage the Senate
exactly, there's a reason it enraged them because Romans were insanely xenophobic and nationalistic
>>87080967
I meant the character she is playing

>>87080889
>>87080896
Exactly how stupid are you two?

>>87080958
To ancient romans, Syrians were just another non-roman race. This isn't about being white or black.

>>87080952

whats the diff between Rome and Byzantium?

>>87080958
WUZ

>>87080985

>xenophobic and nationalistic

Why do you bring insanely modern terms and try your hardest to group them in times where they don't make much sense at all?

>>87080985
Zoe Wanamaker, was in My Family

>The Byzantine Empire, also referred to as the Eastern Roman Empire, was the continuation of the Roman Empire in the East during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages, when its capital city was Constantinople (modern-day Istanbul, which had been founded as Byzantium). It survived the fragmentation and fall of the Western Roman Empire in the 5th century AD and continued to exist for an additional thousand years until it fell to the Ottoman Turks in 1453.[1] During most of its existence, the empire was the most powerful economic, cultural, and military force in Europe. Both "Byzantine Empire" and "Eastern Roman Empire" are historiographical terms created after the end of the realm; its citizens continued to refer to their empire as the Roman Empire (Greek: Βασιλεία τῶν Ῥωμαίων, tr. Basileia tôn Rhōmaiōn; Latin: Imperium Romanum),[2] or Romania (Ῥωμανία), and to themselves as "Romans".[3]

If you think that Byzantium is a different entity from Rome then you are a fucking moron.

>>87080990
My bad, I addressed the wrong anon. That other guy is a massive dipshit

>>87080990

3 Barbarossa's.

>>87080985
The fact of the matter was there were gallic senators as early as Julius Caesar yet the idea that there were African legionnaires as late as 200 AD is impossible for some of the retards in this topic to handle.

If I were the director of Britannia, I probably wouldn't cast any black actors as roman legionnaires either. At the end of the day, the percentage of African solders in the roman legion is so insignificant that having a number of African soldiers or having an african soldier as one of the main characters is just SJWism at play.

>ITT: normies who never play Rome Total War

>>87080985
>Romans were insanely xenophobic and nationalistic
>nationalism before nation states
They weren't a nation and they were multicultural as fuck compared to literally everyone else

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>>87080071
God i had this new obsession with culture that both the right and left have

Yeah sure the collapse had nothing to do with the centuries of political instability, it was "loss of traditional values", whatever the fuck that means.

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>>87080952
I wasn't taught it but I learned it myself because I have an interest in ancient history hence why I am discussing this subject because I actually know my shit
>>87080990
>>87081045
it's cool, it's clear I gotta take pictures for this fucking faggot
>>87081072
fucking keked

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>>87081094
>They weren't a nation
>rome wasn't a nation
excuse me WHAT
>>87081095
byz was corrupt as shit but managed to survive a literal millennium until it lost a war. Unchecked immigration and loss of culture is literally what killed the western empire

>>87068744
>nobis erat

Learn Latin you fucking mongoloid

>>87080071
kill yourself drumpftard

The western empire fell because rome was always centered in a pretty shitty area of the italian peninsula, relying heavily on crops from surrounding places, and they overextended their boundaries trying to conquer the entire world, making them vulnerable to barbarians. The shift to the east was a natural one for the new christian empire as well.

>>87081100
Why'd you put me in your comment? And someone already posted it.

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>>87068744
>in Britannia/Roman times people weren't so bothered by skin color

>>87081143

I know you are memeing.

Explain me what a nation is and how "nationalism" applies to Rome.

Do you really think Julius Caesar did what he did because of "nationalistic reasons"?

>>87080985
>Romans were insanely xenophobic and nationalistic
No, not particularly. They were very liberal with handing out roman citizenship specially early in their expansion. They were very inclusive compared to other city-states.

>>87081170
this is kinda true though. For many Romans, black skin was a weird, foreign sight to see, and the Romans hated black skin. But the Romans hated anything foreign, including people from the north, east, and west, regardless of their skin color.

>>87080071
You do realize the "loss of traditional values" literally occurred the moment it shifted from a republic to an empire - right?

The epitome of the Roman Empire was marked by being audacious and rejecting conservatism.

>>87081143
>>rome wasn't a nation
>excuse me WHAT
What don't you understand? When did cities, kindgoms, and empires become nations?

>>87081174
>>87081211
I really should not have to explain this fucking shit to you.

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>>87066792
Honest question for the history fags here

pic related is the roman armor you see in like every media portrayal of the SPQR troops, is this accurate in any period or is it just a dramatization that stuck?

>>87080784
hmmm yes let me taste that triggered irony

>>87081201
>and the Romans hated black skin
Source?

>But the Romans hated anything foreign
Rome had a centuries long erection for anything Greek, you absolute shitter.

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@87081231

Weak. You could've done many things with your bait, take it to new heights... but now its just disappointing.

Better luck next time.

>>87071735
>black """"""people""""""

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>>87081188
If by citizenship you mean they conquered people and raped their women before demanded regular tribute

>>87081143
>Unchecked immigration and loss of culture is literally what killed the western empire
I see. You are merely pretending.

>>87081231
Are you the same asshole that thinks Byzantine wasn't Roman?

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>>87081285
ALPHA

>>87081285
No, that isn't actually what i mean.

>>87081279
wtf the love historical revisionism now

>>87081211
>>87080784
/tv/ is more retarded/underage than /r9k/ and /b/ put together Jesus Christ

>>87071794
>ethnic gaslighting
But that is exactly what it is. They're trying to erase traces of the past in people's minds. Britain was always full of niggers. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

>>87081252
>>and the Romans hated black skin
>Source?

Oh sorry, I meant to say that "the romans hated anything foreign" as a follow up to how black skin was considered foreign.

Also, Rome was influenced by Greece, but Rome still saw themselves as superior to Greece. They hated Greece the least out of all the foreign nations obviously, but still went to war with a number of Greek kingdoms.

>>87081211
Sorry you are correct that was meant for >>87081143

>>87081327
We know.
I mean you can't even stop yourself, it's like a compulsion.

>>87081201

You're a fucking idiot

>>87081231
Kek. Let's hear your explanation. If it's b8 I'm not responding

>>87081059
>Wikipedia

Byzaboos are cancerous

>They called themselves Romaioi, or Romans. Modern historians agree with them only in part. The term East Rome accurately described the political unit embracing the Eastern provinces of the old Roman Empire until 476, while there were yet two emperors. The same term may even be used until the last half of the 6th century, as long as men continued to act and think according to patterns not unlike those prevailing in an earlier Roman Empire.
>During those same centuries, nonetheless, there were changes so profound in their cumulative effect that after the 7th century state and society in the East differed markedly from their earlier forms. In an effort to recognize that distinction, historians traditionally have described the medieval empire as Byzantine.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Byzantine-Empire

>>87081174
>>87081211
it is under strict denotation, a nation

I am curious to hear you reasoning though.

>>87081405
>get woke
Reported for underage

>>87081354
>Rome still saw themselves as superior to Greece
This doesn't translate into hatred for them, though. Greek accomplishments were immensely respected in the Roman world, from their philosophy to science.
There's a story of how Julius Caesar felt depressed when he turned 30, that all his accomplishments were tiny in comparison to those of Alexander the Great - a Macedonian. He didn't hate him at all, if anything, he saw him as an existential rival.

At most, you could say there was significant dislike for places like Carthage or Germania during their various wars. But I don't see much to indicate that they hated everything considered foreign. Especially when the definition of "Roman" was ever changing and didn't include many parts of even the Italian peninsula.

>>87081444
>reported for old neo nazi potential terrorist

kek white people why do you do this to yourself.

>>87068744
t. alberto barbosa

>>87067431
>>87068693
>>87071794
>>87073169
>>87080668
>>87080711

only good posts in this horrible topic

>>87079735
You don't have any clue what that picture is about, do you?

>>87081405
exactly, they could cast every single role in every single movie or film as black and it still wouldn't be anything close to what whites have done
this diversity is a beautiful pushback on the fucking stain which is European history

>>87081438
>under strict denotation
Nope

>>87081082
> African legionnaires as late as 200 AD

You do make a point but the show takes place in 42ad

>>87081465
I just came in this thread but thanks for calling everyone a Nazi. Let's us know you're a sjw faggot

>>87071794
>non-European
I'm sure there were plenty from Africa and the Levant. We're talking specifically NUBIAN legionnaires

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>>87071794

A well-reasoned and written post that this cesspool of the internet does not deserve.

>>87068671
Well The Feodoratus were non-Italians. The Praetorans, Evocati, and Legionaries were certainly Italians if not Romans.

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>>87081502
good argument

heres a better one.

>>87081456
exactly, Romans loved the Greeks, it's why they stole their religion, the Romans were a multicultural people that conquered and adapted their nation with the values they found since they started with basically nothing of a culture
the idea that time or even Europe wad this magical 99% white land is a myth, it only became likely during the dark ages when they persecuted and killed them all to become white nations

>>87081211
>nation (plural nations)
>1. A historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, ethnicity and/or psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.
>2. (international law) A sovereign state.

hmm

>>87081585
Where's your argument? Which of that applies to the Roman Empire?

>>87081233
Yes, Lorica Segmentata is accurate for the time frame but it was nowhere near as bulky as most of the Indian-made shitty reenactment junk.
It was much fitted much closer to the body and the shoulders didn't stand out that much.

>>87081585
Romans were all immigrants, they weren't a country with a shared culture, they weren't a nation

>>87081585
none of those apply to the Roman Empire
are you going to backstep now and say your were referring to the city of Rome in thread about Rome in GB?

>>87081617
you are actually retarded or trying really hard to sound smart

please explain how that first definition doesn't apply though.

>>87081465
>be nigger
>admit you're underage on 4chan for 20 seconds of sass
pottery

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>>87070081
>Aryan
>before invasion from germany

>>87081612
Again none of those apply to an expansive empire dumbass

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>>87081585

>1.

Uh no sweety, you see you would first have to justify this "unity" part in your definition and try to prove it for the amount of city states and tribes that were conquered, forced and assimilated by the Romans (who would rebel if they could)

>4.

No, again, sweety this does not apply to the vast Roman empire.

>>87081617
>>87081643
>>87081651
one of the main concept of rome was taking provinces, putting them under census and romanizing them. They made a point to push their culture out

holy christ you people are actually retarded

>>87081661
rome wasn't a country, countries didn't exist until the colonizing era of europe when they started imposing borders on themselves and the world
there aren't supposed to be borders, that's something Europeans created and it's set us back thousands of years

>>87081143
>byz was corrupt as shit
Of course you had to add that, to discredit it's success. After your ancestors destroyed the western half of it's empire you're Still butthurt to this day that they continued to exist despite every attempt to topple it

Vile jealous creatures you are

>>87081678
The Romans were a nation with an empire that included many other nations. Unless, of course, you're going to tell me that Britain was not a nation simply because they put a hundred million pajeets under their boot.

>>87072435
Great argument, retard.

>>87081698

It's a good trait in men to admit when they are wrong. I know you will try to cling to your (wrong) idea that Rome is a "nation".

But you should either yield now or simply stop posting.

Be the bigger man anon, come on.

For fuck's sake everyone.

A roman was a citizen of the Empire (or republic).

People from the Italian peninsula were Italians and identified as such.

>>87081698
still not a country, it was impossible for them to have nationalism
instead they merged with other people to be a multi cultural empire

>>87081661
>one territory
Nope, a lot of geographical regions
>conscious of it's own unity
That definitely doesn't apply to an imperial power split in half with two governments and rebellious regions held down by legions.

Are you pretending to be this stupid or do you really not understand how new nations are?

>>87081698
Also this. Romans made extensive efforts to assimilate the locals wherever they went, as evidenced by half of Europe still speaking the Latin equivalent of ebonics.

>>87081754
same to you I guess?

the definition clearly lays it out for you and you have given nothing to dispute.

This is /tv/ though so i'm not really surprised.

>>87081735
Britain was literally not a nation, thay didn't happen until centuries later

>>87081790

Sad...

But I guess I expected a little bit too much.

>>87081762
>merged
No, dumbshit. The nation of the Romans was in charge, and assimilated first the many nations of Italy, and later many of the nations in the provinces. But the Romans were clearly a nation. They didn't merge in some sort of equal exchange in diversity.

>all these retards who still believe the Roman empire was great
nice american education

>>87081779
>a lot of geographical regions, no shit it was an empire, but nation and empire are not mutually exclusive terms

They made a point, as I said before, to legally census their provinces and establish proxy representatives and roman governors effectively assimilating them into the greater empire.

>>87081762
>>87081710
>country

I thought the word was nation that you autists were sperging out about. I can post the definition of country as well if you want me to

>>87081585
It's so cute when brainlets who never read a book in their lives try to anachronically apply modern abstractions to completely unrelated historical periods because they think history exists to vindicate their worldview.
Nationalism is a phenomenon that began in the late modern era. Of course a brainlet like you will probably try to argue that it's somehow universal, complete with inane comparisons to animals and tribal societies. Don't bother, i will ignore you.

>>87081799
>Britain was not a nation in 1900
>that happened many centuries later

>>87081735
Jesus you're really stretching now. Which Britain? The modern nation state of Britain? Yes that is a nation because it has a national conscious with government integrated into the culture of the homogeneous group.

>b-b-but the Roman Empire h-had Rome so I win because the all spoke the same language and looked the same even though they didn't
Good for you anon, run along

>>87081822
thanks for conceding.

>>87081855
I'm talking about strict denotation anon, not an "abstraction"

when you take the steps to outstretch your governors, tax provinces, spread you language, culture, military and catalog the people you conquer its not a phenomenon, its not a tribal society, it is, in strict denotation, a nation.

>i will ignore you.
i say again: thanks for conceding.

>>87081855
Nobody mentioned nationalism you dumb cunt. The concept of nation is quite literally a Roman one that they applied to themselves first and foremost. A group of related people with a state, more or less.

In case you're still not getting it, let me spell it out for you:
The Roman EMPIRE was not a nation
ROME was a nation

>>87081849
country and nation are the same thing but they didn't exist until Europe started colonizing the world

>>87081846
>The nation of the Romans was in charge,
City-state with a king
>and assimilated first the many nations of Italy
They had a time machine? Or are you referencing tribes?
> later many of the nations in the provinces.
Kek. What fucking nations you retard? Even with your shitty dictionary definition you're wrong

>>87081889
I don't quite understand what you're getting at, I never claimed that. I have only claimed this throughout the debate:
>>87081928
The concept of nation is not some modern anachronism, and it applies to the Romans. I never claimed that it applies to all subject peoples at all times, learn to keep track of your debates.

>>87081849
You didn't actually address any of my points. You just brought up more of your own refuted points.

Also Byzantine was Roman

>>87081924
wrong, it was more like a tribe and there were no border. fuck how many times do we have to fucking say it's borders aren't natural, the Romans had no sense of nationalism or pride because they weren't a nation

>>87081943
......have you not been reading when I'm talking about strict denotation? as in the denotation of a nation today?

Rome certainly fits the definition, they absolutely existed in its particular case.

Just because they did not have the same term for it does not mean that Rome doesnt fit the definition

>>87081978
>keep track of your debates.
The irony of this...

>>87081928
Romans were not actually one people, that is a myth, they were multinational society and so couldn't have nationalism

>>87081978
nations and borders are literally a modern definition that we are finally moving away from in the post modern era
that didnt exist for the romans

>>87081928

>Nobody mentioned nationalism

Pay more attention please, its what sparked your brainlet tier of discussion: >>87080985

>>87081996
a nation is a modern idea, Rome the city, kingdom, or empire doesn't fit the shitty online dictionary term that you yourself posted, and it looks like you're arguing with +4 people (now me) who keep refuting you

get the fuck on with your life