Rick and Morty Is Dying

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I'M PICKLE RICK!!!

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>>87038563
Looking at season 2, we have more cases where Rick is in danger, but again largely due to the actions of those around him when interacting with the universe at large, or Rick's technology.
A Rickle In Time: Rick would be fine, but time gets fucked up because of Summer and Morty.
Mortynight Run: Rick gets into trouble because he lets Morty hijack the adventure.
Total Rickall: This one he is actually in danger, but largely due his family so easily buying into the parasites, while Rick actively resists. His own sentiment to his family puts him in real danger.
Get Schwifty: Planet is going to die. Rick is at no real risk though.
The Ricks Must Be Crazy: Rick is in serious danger here, but again because Morty fucked up his plans and got them trapped in the teenyverse.
Big Trouble in Little Sanchez: Rick actually put himself in danger largely by his own screwups here.
Look Who's Purging Now: Morty gets him into danger when he would have been fine.
The Wedding Squanchers. Once again he gets into danger because of his sentiments and lowering his guard around people. Then he goes to prison because of his sentiments.
Other than "The Ricks Must Be Crazy", Rick is almost never directly in danger. And when he is it is because of OTHER people. Rick is both a character, and a personification of a cold uncaring universe. Kind of like the Joker is also a character and a personification of absolute chaos.

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The show was genuinely good in its first season, inconsistent in the second and now its turned into a show thats catering to what the audience thinks it is, and the audience thinks they're significantly deeper and more intelligent than they actually are.

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>>87038590
In season 3, that is no longer the case. In Pickle Rick he just acts like a bumfucking retard and gets told off by a shrink. He almost dies because he implements the worst idea imaginable. In the other episodes he's not really in danger. Rick's fundamental character has changed. Rick is no longer a personification of an uncaring universe. He's not longer essentially a frustrated God who only gets into trouble because he keeps a bunch of ants around for his amusement. Rick was basically a classical Greek God. An embodiment of a concept given human traits and failings. Now he's just got human traits and failings, but no longer is the embodiment of a concept. I cannot stress enough how this small change will likely destroy the series, and cause the writing to just plummet into new levels of shit.

Because the real kicker is, not only has Rick lost his status as the embodiment of an uncaring universe/god, but he has ALSO lost much of his sentimentality. In A Rickle in Time, Rick shows he is fully willing to sacrifice his own life to save Morty. He also defers to Morty incredibly often, letting him steer adventures and going out of his way to make him happy, in spite of NOT WANTING TO. The same trend manifests itself repeatedly throughout other episodes, such as Close Rick-counters of the Rick Kind, Mortynight Run, Big Trouble in Little Sanchez, Rick Potion #9, Look Who's Purging Now, and even The Wedding Squanchers.

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sage and report shill threads

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>>87038617
Rick's entire character is someone who sees the world as cold and uncaring, and so he defines himself as the embodiment of cold and uncaring. But his sentiment, for Morty especially, keeps him coming back and letting Morty continue to fuck things up, because he cares about him. Look at the episodes of Season 3 we've seen so far. Rick is still an alcoholic trainwreck who doesn't give a shit about anything, but now he doesn't give a shit about Morty. Up until now, that was the one part of his community who couldn't abandon. Morty fundamentally kept Rick human. Repeated contact with each other caused Morty to become more intelligent, and Rick to become more sentimental.

That is no longer the case. Rick has become much flatter as a character since the very start of season 3. Now instead of being tied down by his sentiments, he has no REASON to stay around, AND he's becoming outright manipulative and emotionally abusive to those around him. He's no longer showing any attachment to Morty except as a sick power fantasy, rather than a sort of paternal love.

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>>87038633

Fuck off cuck


>>87038639
Basically, Rick has gone from the embodiment of an uncaring universe, made human by his attachments and sympathy, to the embodiment of the patriarchy, made inhuman because he doesn't care about anything but himself and oppresses everyone around him(while also being outwitted by completely average women for no reason whatsoever). Rick used to be hyper-competent but hampered by sentiment. Now he's hyper-incompetent but given power by technology.

The other big difference between the first two seasons, and season 3, is the loss of philosophical themes. I'm not going to say Rick and Morty is the smartest show out there. It's totally not. But it wasn't stupid either. There was a driving philosophy behind R&M, and it seemed very intentionally explored in almost every episode.

That philosophy was essentially the philosophical debate between Nihilism, and Existentialism. You see Rick, as essentially an existentialist. "Nothing matters, so let's go watch TV". But he is made miserable by it. Even as he personifies the existential horror of reality, and derives pleasure from it, he can't escape the nihilistic depression that inspires it.

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>>87038590
Man I love mortynight run, say what you will about season 2 or the show in general but that episode was 10/10

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>>87038655

Jerry mostly leaving the series is a failure on the part of the writers, for a very specific reason. Jerry was meant to contrast Rick in almost every way. Jerry is completely *unaware* of the coldness of the universe. He derives pleasure not in assigning his own meaning to life, but from his own ignorance. Jerry is is stupid as Rick is smart. Rick is depressing, and constantly shits on others for assigning meaning to things, why Jerry is generally upbeat, and constantly finds deep meaning in even the most *simple* of tasks. This contrast was used in almost every episode. Jerry had a very important role as an almost perfect representation of humanity. He wasn't a personification of a natural force like Rick, but he represented the human mind's INABILITY to grasp the fullness of the universe.

No matter WHAT happens, Jerry actually never really improves his understanding of the universe. He grows as a character somewhat, but his ability to grow in understanding is *INTENTIONALLY* limited. Because he represents human knowledge as contrasted with Rick representing the inherently unknowable.

Furthermore, the driving conflict behind many episodes, while driven from Rick's sentiment, is actually mainly due to the other characters trying to assign human morality to the universe. OR, because they wish for something, Rick grants it to them, and they realize holy shit that was a bad idea.

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>>87038684
And there's even a recurring motif of creations resenting their creators, another parallel to Greek mythology.

Here are some examples. I'm highlighting episodes that more perfectly fit this theme, but if you dig into almost every episode you can find these themes in small quantities.

Lawnmower dog: Jerry wants Snuffles to be more intelligent, only to discover that we for the most part keep pets around because of their blissful ignorance. Granting them intelligence puts them at odds with our species to disastrous effect. The dogs grow to resent those who granted them their intelligence.

M. Night Shaym-aliens: While Rick is in this adventure sort of out of control, like most of these episodes where Rick *appears* to be in danger, he almost never is. He plays a long con and destroys the Zygerians. Despite a nearly perfectly accurate simulation, he looks past it and immediately knows it is fake. Contrast this with Jerry, who even as the simulation completely stops functioning never sees past the curtain at the true reality. Once again this contrast drives humor and adds to narrative.

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Who are you writing this to?

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>>87038714
Meeseeks and Destroy: They are granted the ability to generate at-will slaves from Rick, whose only purpose is to fulfill simple tasks and die. But when the meeseeks meet an impossible task, they descend into existential horror, as they live long enough to grapple with the meaning of the universe and their own existence. They resent Jerry, their creator, for putting them into a situation where the horror of the universe descends on them.

Rick Potion #9: Morty asks for a roofie rape potion, and Rick half asses it as usual. The resulting effects lead to a complete breakdown of the human race. This isn't a particularly deep episode until the end. You see throughout the story Rick was never in danger, but it was his compassion for Morty that drove his attempt to fix things. He actually fails here, and says fuck it and just goes to a new reality. He assumes the role of his dead parallel without any effort, while Morty is traumatized by the cold hard reality. He for the first time experiences true existential dread, and descends into nihilism.


Rixty Minutes: Of all the sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these. "/pol/ was”, er, "It might have been". The cast is granted the ability to see all alternate realities, and they realize their own failings in perfect clarity. Jerry and Beth essentially reject thinking about the alternate realities to once again find happiness in ignorance and their simple human existence, and biological drives. Summer starts to fall into a nihilist depression, but Morty has started to embrace Rick's existentialism and pulls her out of it. He shows her that nothing matters, and that this can be a source of joy rather than misery.

More are coming...

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>>87038721
Just throwing it out there. I wrote this in pieces in various threads, across various websites, and I thought it was worth compiling and effortposting.

>>87038737
Something Ricked This Way Comes: Jerry once again goes on an exploration of willful human ignorance, while Rick once again is shown to be a deific creature beyond the will of any others. He literally one-ups the devil because it's *funny*. He is displayed to be more powerful than even the devil, to the point where the christian embodiment of evil poses no threat to him. He is truly the god of his universe. But it is also revealed that his universe is MORE horrifying than the devils. Because the devil at least represents a human morality tale. Despite the devil doing in one episode what Rick does every episode, there is a clear difference. The Devil does it intentionally, as a way to force humans to grapple with morality. There are simple clear cut morals to be derived from each story. Rick does this by *accident*. There isn't always a comforting morality parable drawn from his stories. More often than not, the family tries to grasp some meaning from the knowledge he grants them and FAILS to some degree, because Rick represents an amoral universe.

Close Rick-counters of the Rick Kind: This isn't a very deep episode imho, but it does underscore the fact that Rick cares for Morty. HIS Morty, even when he has access to infinite alternate variations. Despite being not that philosophically deep, the episodes is amazing because of what it shows about the characters.

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>>87038721
me

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>>87038764
A Rickle in Time: Faced with time manipulation ability, Summer and Morty fuck everything up because of their human failings. Rick can, at any time, leave them and return to reality without them, but keeps getting dragged further from safety because of his family. But he's never really at any risk until he's fighting alternate versions of himself. When things finally reach their peak is when he realizes he can't save Morty without killing himself, and he DOES IT. This episode is, imho, the perfect embodiment of the series as a whole.

Mortynight Run: Morty tries to assign human morality to the universe, and as a result nearly damns his entire reality to genocide by higher order beings. At the end, he realizes that human morality doesn't matter in a universe of finite resources, and sometimes you have to kill. Not for any moral justification, or higher calling, but because if you do not you will die. The very act of TRYING to assign morality to the universe almost leads to him DESTROYING the universe, and even the journey there is littered with corpses.

Auto Erotic Assimilation: Rick is such an uncaring ass, and so alien that even a literal hivemind parasite realizes he's a bad influence, and leaves him. Rick is once again exposed to the threat of death due to his own sentimentality. Morty and Summer try to free some citizens from hive mind control only to realize they would immediately revert to tribalism, warfare, and genocide. Their attempts at assigning human morality to alien life fails, even as the alien life's attempt at finding meaning in the universe drives it away from Rick.

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>>87038764
>>87038721
I'm reading it man, prety much sums up my feelings about the show

What the fuck is this thread... Why are you retards writing essays in your posts?

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>>87038782
Total Rickall: Alien parasites infest the house, screwing with their memories. Rick immediately saw through the disguise and killed the first parasite. Rick would be fine, except his sentiment causes him to fail, and he loses control of the situation. The funny thing is this shows the contrast between Rick and Morty, wherein Rick becomes more sentimental and human in Morty's presence, while Morty becomes more logical and intelligent in Rick's presence. Morty C138 is actually pretty special compared to other Morty's. But anyways, this whole episodes draws its themes from many philosophical thought experiments with regards to memory. Essentially, if no one observes an event, did it actually happen? And if everyone observes an event that didn't happen, did it? In essence, this entire episode is an exploration of the concept of solipsism throughout various philosophies.

Get Schwifty: Aliens hijack the earth for a reality TV show, while the humans begin to build religions around it and try to assign meaning to a largely simplistic event. Rick is never in any danger here, and doesn't really care that much, while Morty freaks out at the impending death of his world(again).

The Ricks Must Be Crazy: Rick would have zero problems controlling the universe(s) he created, if not for Morty's conscience forcing Rick into a dangerous and exposed position. The theme of creations despising their master is once again explored here. This also draws heavy inspiration from, to a certain degree, the idea of the Ancestor Simulation. While not a direct parallel, the idea of universes within universes HAS been explored not just in philosophy by also as a potential explanation for our universe. Seriously, physicists have discussed the idea.

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>>87038817
Big Trouble In Little Sanchez: Rick reverts to a more juvenile state, and his intense emotions and sentimentality make him far more exposed than normal. This shows interestingly enough the continued growth by Morty and Summer to understand the universe, if only a little bit. Beth and Jerry attempt to rectify their marriage by going to a couples counseling retreat. This episode is an inversion of the usual tropes. Usually, the case is humanity being put at danger when they try to grapple with the universe. In this case, the universe is put in danger when trying to grapple with humanity. Humanity is in danger as well, but this episode remains a clever inversion of the typical theme, and drives home the fundamentally alien nature of reality from humanity.

Look Who's Purging Now: This isn't a super deep episode, but the usual themes are explored here. Morty's attempt to apply morality leads to Rick being in danger, when he would otherwise be fine. The aliens attempt to rise up to depose the ruling class, only to fall once again into the cycle of exploitation of the ruling class. It highlights the fundamental problems and questions of government, and the failings of government to fully account for the selfishness and illogical nature of humans(even though they're aliens I know).

The Wedding Squanchers: Rick once again hurts his family by bringing them in contact with the larger universe, and chooses to sacrifice himself to that universe to protect his family. It's a pretty simple episode, but it once again explores the basic narrative.

More are coming...

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>>87038840
AND THEN SEASON 3 HITS:

The philosophical explorations of the first 2 seasons have disappeared, to be replaced with superficial psychology.

The Rickshank Redemption: This destroys a huge chunk of the narrative and functions as essentially a "reboot" by the new writing team. They still make Rick out to be a godlike entity, but already his sentimentality and connection to his family is gone. He starts a new direction as he engages in direct emotional abuse towards his family. Again, he was always hostile, and treated his family like shit. Still, he remained largely honest and forthright with them.

Rickmancing the Stone: Rather than being an exploration of the movie it draws inspiration from, it largely uses nihilism as a gag. There is a clever inversion though wherein Summer effectively becomes Beth, realizing that even as she tries to escape from her own existence, she is prey to the same cycle all of humanity goes through.

More are coming...

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>>87038874
Pickle Rick: Rick for the first time is acting incredibly stupid, to the point that it is not sentiment that weakens him, but just a bad half-assed idea. He almost dies because he didn't think someone would look up. Seriously. Sure, he rebuilds himself using a ratroach mech, but his fundamental competence is gone. Then he gets chewed out by a psychologist like he was somehow unaware of his own failings. Rick has never shown in the previous episodes that he was *unaware* of his failings. He's fully aware. He's just grappling with existence. The therapists speech was not entirely wrong, but it just said "You're in control of your reality" lol existentialism yay. She's spot on that they all to some degree are guilty of rationalization, Rick especially. But it trades the philosophical themes for largely psychological ones. The big issue is that the psychological failings of the cast are what DRIVE the existential and philosophical narrative. If they start to repair those problems, which are caused BY their own intelligence butting heads with the universe, the story ends. There is no further exploration.

Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender: This episode was pretty funny, but the deep themes of the first season are absent. As is, for that matter, Rick's sentiment towards Morty. The entire episode is basically "lol the avengers are actually pretty fucked up". K.

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>>87038901
The Whirly Dirly Conspiracy: There's not really any philosophical themes explored. They focus on body image and use immortality as a cheap gag. Rick continues to be obliviously unaware of his surroundings. He seems to walk from trap to trap, being saved more by coincidence and luck than competence and intellect.

Rest and Ricklaxation: This is essentially a Rick and Morty retelling of Dr. Jekel and Mr. Hyde. The sad thing is that this turns into a sort of a morality tale, the same thing actively avoided and outright inverted in the first two seasons. Subtle jabs are human morality and search for meaning are replaced with cheap gags and references.

More are coming...

Does anybody else watch a show because they think it's entertaining for 20 minutes, then when it's over you go do something else and not think about it anymore.

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>>87038928
To bring this to a close, the entire series went from being inspired and driven by existential humor of humanity trying to grapple with a cold uncaring universe, and failing, to dealing with some psychological issues like rationalization, body image, and dissatisfaction with life. This is not a COMPLETE departure from the old Rick and Morty, but the level of intelligence has dropped considerably. Like I said, Rick and Morty was never a smart show. But it wasn't stupid. Now it very rapidly IS becoming stupid. The humor is still pretty good, but the quality of the writing is on a downward arc. The motifs of people resenting their creators, the greek personification of Rick as the god of an uncaring universe, the contrast between human ignorance with absolute intelligence, and the sentimentality that ties it all together are no longer there.

Something else I can't help but notice, is that the personalities of Rick, Morty, and Jerry have gone fundamental changes from who they used to be since season 3 started. Rick is no longer as intelligent or unshakable, and is abusive to those around him, rather than merely caustic. Jerry is no longer a representation of human ignorance, though he is definitely still quite stupid. Morty displays some uncharacteristically sadistic impulses, by cronenberging a teenager for dumping his sister. What? Why did all the male cast members become much simpler, and less competent? It all represents a rather disturbing trend in the writing direction. I don't know where the series will go from here, but this new direction feels almost like high quality fanfiction, rather than the source material.

>>87038676
Agreed

>>87038934
why are you on tv? just for the memes?

>>87038965
Mostly ya

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>>87038934
Tbh, it wasn't like I sat there analyzing this or anything. After my first watching, it was something I'd usually have on in the background, but over time my appreciation grew. I started looking into stuff.

It was the same with Futurama, and the Simpsons. You can space out and play it in the background, but over time you appreciate the nuances and subtleties, and it makes you appreciate the show more for it.

Anyways, that's it. That's the effortpost. lol

>going all sigmund freud on cartoons

So this is the power of autism?

>>87038965
TV isn't some high artform, it's episodic content designed to sell advertising/subscriptions.
Some of it is better than others but they're all disposable and hastily put together (relatively) consumer grade mind numbing.

Please stop pretending that it's some high form of intellectual stimulation.

Some people like Jersey Shore, Some people like shitty cartoons because their mental age is still 12, (but muh feels mean it's for adults!)
IT'S FUCKING CARTOONS YOU STUPID FUCKING MONG.

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>>87039025
Weapons grade

>>87039118
All media is art. Rick and Morty is hardly high art, but no other show has explored or drawn inspiration from existential horror and nihilism to such a degree. It's a shame that this has been abandoned.

>>87039118
i think he meant /tv/, as in this subreddit

I don't watch this absolute cringe-worthy trash and never will, and OP you need to reconsider life for putting this much thought and effort into these posts. That being said, I'm pretty curious about this scene where Rick gets "BTFO" by the self-insert female writer therapist cunt, as it seems to be all anyone talks about (including my friends who watch this pseudo-intellectual garbage for whatever reason).

>>87039025
>UGH WHY DO PEOPLE DISCUSS THINGS ON A DISCUSSION BOARD
This is how you sound right now.

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I got bored of this by the end of season 1. It is literally XD the cartoon. I don't care if the creator is 'self aware' on the matter as it makes him look like pic related.
You may as well watch the bing bazooka theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4m2amw4A0M

Wow check out these cool, hidden jokes in the episode.

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>>87039162
>subreddit
kek

I resposted this shit there too.

>>87039157
>All media is art
No it isn't, stop eating up that shit.

>No other show has explored or drawn inspiration from existential horror and nihilism to such a degree.

>t. I only watch cartoons and consume television.

>>87039178
>This is how you sound right now.

Dog, this is all text based, doesn't sound like anything.

>>87039178
>Discuss
>One fucking retard treats it like his blog and thinks anyone reads his stupid dogshit rants about cartoons and how they are serious business.

All these paragraphs can all be summed up by "Im a sexist bigot please punch my nazi face"

Season 3 is better than ever

>>>/Pol/

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>>87039206
Bitch I barely watch TV. R&M, Futurama, and X-files are the only shows that could really draw me in over a long time. GoT veered off from the books and became trash. If anything I should probably watch more tv, because half the time I'm out of the loop on what's current.

this place really is a shit hole

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>>87039229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvsLLfRpLs

>>87039252
>Bitch I barely watch TV.
>No other show has explored or drawn inspiration from existential horror and nihilism to such a degree.

I'm ready for you to start backpeddling now

>>87039252
>bitch I barely watch TV
And yet you feel compelled to rant about TV like you are a seasoned watcher.

you know what im sick of? everyone acting like a fucking youtube reviewer. yeah it got shit, no its probably not because of what your boring essay im not reading is about, why don't you create something new if you have the urge to write a wall of text. It might even be good. but this was a waste of your energy

>>87039118
Cartoons haven't been art since the 40s.

>>87039389
Why does it matter to you so much? Are you autistic or something? Why would you act like its a personal attack on you when people want to discuss something, so much so that youve gone out of your way to attack back?

>>87039426
>Cartoons
>ART
Cartoons were certainly well made then, but they were designed to be little more than filler for the main feature film. They were not exactly highbrow plot wise or humour wise. They have a certain nostlagic aesthetic but they were never regarded as 'art'. Mostly trivial fun or caricatures for about 10-15 mins.

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>>87039389
Because I'm not an artist. Just because I am not an artist doesn't mean I cannot critique art, just like how an artist can critique software I develop or work on. It is easier to critique than create, but that doesn't mean critique is without value.

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>>87038737

>>87039555
It is when you're bitching about cartoons :3.

>>87039297
>>87039312
Love how he stopped his autistic replies after these posts pointed out his bullshit

>>87038563
the series jumped the shark with season 2 finale imo

this episode's placement is like if the series finale of Futurama was released as a season finale for season 3.

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>>87039575
Hehe, true.

>>87039619
the series jumped the shark halfway through season 1 imo

>>87039118
Are you implying that a cartoon with writing that very clearly explores adult themes is automatically for children, but if you took the same content and used actors to act it out, it would then be for adults? What about live action with some cgi? Does it immediately make it "For children " or is it only partly so? I genuinely curious as what logic you are basing these claims on, especially since you seem so certain

>>87039701
>Implying cartoons
You should have stopped there.

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>>87039605
Because the arguments are retarded. They simultaneously attack me for excessive interest in cartoons which they claim are not art, then attack me for lack of interest in whatever they believe to be art.

I'm not going to be drawn into a double bind where I lose an argument on both sides because of shifting goalposts.

Besides, an attack on(or appeal to) ethos on an anonymous imageboard is a special kind of retarded.

>>87039716
Ill take that as you admitting there is no logic and youre talking out your ass

tl:dr reddit blog post: the thread

>>87039701
Let me show you what happens, It's called the lifecycle of Television Writing
Season 1 or 2 - Critically acclaimed writing thanks to rich world created by person who has spent decades thinking up this shit and writing it down.
Starvation and stress create the optimum conditions for creativity and reflecting on depression, existentialism etc.

Season 3 - Creator has all kinds of fucking money and literally any other easy job he can throw a stick at without expending any effort thanks to his one thing that he spent decades on crafting in his head and outsources the writing to others because
a) he needs time to fuck bitches and spend his money
b) he's run out of ideas beyond HEY LETS PUT IN THIS ZANY 80'S REFERENCE AND IREVERRANT HUMOR HAY HAY
c) He's bored shitless by the cosntant nagging horde wanting the thing that he spent decades of his life thinking up and will need at least another decade to shit out anything of the same quality again

>>87038563
If you haven't, please go see a medical professional. It is likely you have asperger's or some form of autism if you're this invested in a comedy cartoon.
>>87038789
unless you're OP samefagging, seek help too and do something about your life

>>87039767
>Logic
>Cartoons
Should have stopped there.

>>87039175
It really wasn't a "BTFO" moment. The episode continually switched between Pickle Rick's misadventures trying to get home and then these weirdly nonchalant therapy scenes.

Rick and Morty's biggest issue is definitely that it spends too much time talking about meta shit and not enough time showing. This season has had more than one theoretically interesting concept that got poorly over/underexplained and therefore hurt the episode's quality.

I've never seen a Rick and Morty episode. Ask me anything.

>>87039917

Someone must not be an intellectual.

You're missing out big time

>>87039717
The attacks were very clearly not on your interest or lack thereof, but rather on your implied knowledge of the subject matter. I'll try to break it down for you.

You claim that Rick and Morty dives into existential horror and nihilism to a greater degree than any other show. This would, if nothing else, imply that you have at least a considerable knowledge of television and that you've likely seen lots of different shows with different themes.

But then you shoot yourself in the foot by claiming you BARELY watch TV at all, so your previous point is absolutely moot. You don't know shit about what kinds of shows have explored these themes before and you come off as completely ignorant.

Also, you don't know what an appeal to ethos is.

Rick & Morty is the best show on TV at the moment, and better than any other TV show in the past 5 years.

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If you disagree, you're either an utterly, uneducated child or have no sense of humor or interest in science.

>>87038563
I'll give you $5 to write all of my college essays for me

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>>87039880
I'm on the spectrum, though only mildly. I just enjoy putting too much effort into the things I enjoy. I play games like eve online fwiw, and like reading up on theories and background of the shows I do get into. Just a hobbyist who thinks too much. Not samefagging.

>>87039972
I love these kinds of posts

Upper-middle tier bait

>>87039942
The animation looks like shit though and the voices are like nails on a chalkboard. Why did they make it so annoying to watch?

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>>87039951
Okay that's fair. I guess I should clarify. I don't really watch tv shows religiously, but I do try to give any sci fi type stuff a chance and watch a little bit of it. But very few really grab me. I definitely enjoyed stuff like Babylon 5 and Firefly fot whatever that is worth. If there are episodes of other series which dive into this subject matter to a greater degree I'm not aware of them. But as far as series as a whole I haven't seen any that seem to take these philosophies to heart that the show is built around them. Other shows may use them for setting, but none that I've seen really centered around the deeper meanings therein.

Could you point out any shows that dive deeper?

Went to Boston Comic Con a couple weeks ago. Saw a couple guys cosplaying as Rick and Morty, trying to impersonate their voices and such. It was awful. And there was one guy cosplaying Pickle Rick, and every faggot that walked by him would go "Hey it's Piclkle Rick! xD" to which he'd reply "PICKLE RIIIIICK!!"

Needless to say, I think that's gonna be my last Comic Con. I think that's about as close as one can get to being physically inside of reddit.

>>87039917
I was like you until I activated a 30 day hulu trial to watch Horace and Pete (decent, plot is a bit forced) three months ago

The series is mediocre, so you're not missing out

golly, OP.

You take this way too seriously. The show will jump the shark. Harmon will make it so. He oozes insecurity when things go right and he will sabotage the show while drunk somehow. It's inevitable. Just enjoy the show while it lasts, otherwise you'll feel personally offended when it gets to GoT's level awful.

>>87040211
That isnt even the most cringy thing while walking to the bathroom at a nerd convention, bro

R&M>>>>dog shit>>>>>>>>>>>>fargo all seasons and movie combined

>>87038617
The thing about him trying to please Morty makes a lot of sense.

It's why I didn't understand why Summer was tagging along so much. She doesn't really have much of a relationship with either of them and the sentimentality isn't there. I could be seeing this wrong, but it felt like for a time, they were trying to make it a trio instead. She was vying for Rick's attention as much as Morty, which ended up making the whole thing feel a little shallow.

>>87040236
Lol I wasn't too bothered by GoT. I don't usually let myself get invested in movies or shows based on books I like. It's just a shame GRRM decided to forget about the books halfway through. I mean they were never the best thing since sliced bread or anything, but they were good and I enjoyed them. Now the whole series is a clusterfuck.

>>87040186
There probably aren't many shows that are centered on those themes, largely because those themes aren't so terribly complex that they require more than a couple episodes to fully explore. You should try reading actual philosophy rather than looking for TV shows that deal with philosophical themes, because they very rarely do it well.

>>87040305
Hey man, if you spent your whole life struggling to stay afloat, and then someone handed you like 5 million dollars to adapt what you wrote, I'd tell my work to fuck off too.

>>87040262
I'd love to hear some stories

>>87040371
well, fat sweaty chicks glomping their favorite characters in cosplay, for one

>>87040432
Yeah I've read the Ezio story

>>87039717
who's that in the pic

>>87040346
Uhm? The evolution of nihilism into existentialism and absurdism stretched for hundreds of years in the discussion of philosophy, with minds like Nietsche Kant and Camus weighing in with different angles. Solipsism goes back even further with Descartes' rather flawed "solution" to the problem of solipsism using god as a get out of jail free card.

And those are just the big ones with regards to these things. I'm not exactly a philosophy major or anything, but having a working understanding of its history doesn't necessarily require absolute mastery of the subject. I'm not trying to push the discussion forward. I'm just appreciative of where it's gone so far and like seeing works inspired by it.

None of these philosophies are, at their core, complicated. Yet they leave a nearly limitless source of inspiration for storytelling because they're intertwined with the human condition. Inseparable.

>>87040346
>this
>using TV to be your life questioning therapy
>TV is literally designed to sell subscriptions or advertising and the most successful tv is the one that caters to the lowest common denominator.

Just because Rick and Morty makes you feel smart sometimes by watching it doesn't mean it's any smarter than Jersey Shore.

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rick and morty has been on a steady decline since episode 1

the objectively best episode was the the proto-episode concept with mharti licking doc's balls and it's been going downhill ever since

>>87040371
one time my friend made me sit with her for a panel with her favorite youtube channel. Halfway through, another rival youtube channel crashed the panel.

When it was obvious the panel on stage wasn't going to play along, the rival channel awkwardly stood at the base of the stage for a good minute trying to banter until the fifth "nah dude, we are doing a panel here", when they looked mortified and walked out. The panel on stage waved them goodbye.

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>writing a 50 paragraph essay on a show the original purpose of which was "let me see if i can get away with this shit"

see >>87040595

>>87040186
you'll like the new Battlestar Galactica before it goes off a cliff in the later seasons.

>philisophical themes

you took one too many literature classes in high school

>>87040679
This. Everything up to the point of the third (or was it the fourth) season is really good and touches on many philosophical themes

>>87040657
>a show the original purpose of which was "let me see if i can get away with this shit"
and then it had two pretty okay seasons

>>87040793
there never was any intellectualy depth in the show, you're making shit up

if it were it was accidental or done to satisfy the network executives

>>87038764
It's actually a very interesting writing. Don't lose it and don't mind posting excerpts wherever it is on topic. Maybe even better, post in a blog.

>>87038563
The subplots were always the worst part, but this season they have been completely pointless and unbearable

This show is and always will be le dark cartoon big boozinka theory for normies that think they are not normies [see: h3h3, reddit, etc]

If you haven't noticed people act like its some 160 iq ultimate dark philosophy self aware "XD" shit when it's just low quality shit that panders to people who refuse to read intellectual books so treat watch a fucking CARTOON to substitute read nitchze

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>>87038563
Didn't read, but how much is Rick the same Rick the show started with? His original body was killed by a SEAL Rick, he transferred his mind to a bug, to a SEAL Rick, to Citadel commander Rick.

And now he was killed by Toxic Rick's beast before infecting Toxic Rick with his chestbursting clone. So how much is this the same Rick?

>>87039917
Do we blame the people manufacturing horse cock dildos, or the people buying them?

>>87040934
yes intellectual depth to satisfy network executives that sounds likely

How about the fact that in the last episode a priest literally said "God's a lie"?

You fags couldn't stop till you memed it to life, didn't you?

>>87042466
>Fat fuck
>Antifa

Makes sense.

Rick just became a massive Mary sue in the 3rd season and it's no longer fun to watch

>>87042771
in all fairness, the joke is that the toxic parts of people represent their inner feelings

the preacher, on the inside, felt that god wasnt real and he also had repressed homosexual urges

it was more a joke about the preacher than a joke about god

thanks for the effort OP
been meaning to rewatch the first two seasons and will do so with your theories in mind.

>>87038563
Yes, the series is reeking of female writing, specially with Morty deforming Summer ex-boyfriend because he dumped her.

The show is just not good anymore.

>>87040657
>thinking that writing 50 paragraphs is hard
get out brainlet, go read your clifford

What's astonishing is that you faggots take a dumb cartoon about zany characters so seriously.