>hates Christianity for being a foreign religion not native

Christianity had been in Japan half as long as Buddhism has been.

>>87032923
Japanese "buddhism" is 99% Shintoism
If you knew ANYTHING about Japan, Buddhism, Japanese Buddhism, or Shinto you would realise this fact
You don't know anything about religion, Japan, Japanese religion, or the religious Japanese
Hilariously dumb observation, friend. You've just proven your complete ignorance of style, religion, Japan, Buddhism, Shintoism, the style of religion in Japan, the Japanese style of Buddhism, Japanese Shintoism, styles of Japan, Japanese religion, and styles of religion

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>>87032923
>it's a '''shills''' attack religion thread

No, his position was that the values and cosmological view of Christianity were not compatible with Japanese culture, which was spelled out by Liam Nelson. This was not the case with Buddhism.

But god isn't *burp* real

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>Japanese hate anything foreign
>Japanese hate Chinese
>Japanese are Chinese

>>87032923

Because there is an inherent validity in Christianity that all men crave.

Also, the prime minister, is Jaoanese. And While christians only account for around 1% of the Japanese, Asō is the seventh Christian prime minister of Japan, after Takashi Hara, Korekiyo Takahashi, Tetsu Katayama, Ichirō Hatoyama, Masayoshi Ōhira, and his own grandfather Shigeru Yoshida. His Christian name is Francisco.

Wonder why?

>>87032923
gooks are inhuman soulless monsters

if they only opened their borders and let in those peaceful christians who only wanted to pray, they wouldn't be in the mess they are now with their population and half their males fapping to anime girls

sure it's been well documented that the catholic church used jesuits to start rebellions in the local population and government to overthrow them for politically purposes, but not all christians are violent, most want to worship in peace

>>87033347
Is this what autism looks like

>what are the different schools of Buddhism
>what is Shinto

>>87034023
Wtf i love sandniggers now

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>>87033380
If you don't hate all religion and it's followers for the crimes against humanity they have committed since their human creation, you don't belong in 4chan. 4chan is a pro-atheist board. Bend the knee or get out.

>>87033347
GLORIOUS JAPANESE RELIGION
FOLDED A MIRRION TIMES

>>87033347
god, weebs are such faggots.

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>>87034183
>not posting the accurate version

>>87034023
>catholic church used jesuits to start rebellions in the local population

half the time the jesuits sided with the conquered peoples against the imperial powers who were seeking to exploit them for mineral wealth. The Kings and Queens in portugal and spain didn't give a fuck about the people, they just wanted gold. The Jesuits went there to build schools, hospitals, missions, teach them to be civilised.

>>87034121
lmao shinto assraped buddhism after the maiji restoration

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>>87033347

What's with the word 'style(s)' anon...?
Is it your nick name or something?
>Faggot Style

>>87033347
You just reminded me that I took a class in religion about Shintoism and Buddhism in China and Japan.
I'm not looking forward to that class in the people in it are as autistic as you.

>>87034023
And yet they all devote their lives to a book that contains ideals that are, to put it kindly, incompatible with modern civilization.

>>87034183

>I learn all I know of history from Family Guy

The cause of this "Dark Age" was the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the waves of invasions and raiding that followed it. Without the larger economy and administrative infrastructure of the Empire to sustain them, trade systems, large public works and educational systems all collapsed, contracted into local versions or died out in western Europe. And waves of invasions by various Germanic peoples, Avars, Moors, Magyars and Vikings made mere survival a higher priority than things like preserving books or maintaining road systems.

The idea that Christianity caused or significantly contributed to the fall of the Western Empire has long since been rejected by modern historians. It clearly wasn't a significant factor, since while the Western Empire collapsed, the equally (or even more) Christian Eastern Empire continued for another 1000 years without collapsing and without any "Dark Age".

Fucking atheists man.

>>87034246
top zozz

>>87034250
>The Jesuits went there to build schools, hospitals, missions, teach them to be civilised.
>The Kings and Queens in portugal and spain didn't give a fuck about the people, they just wanted gold
Where do you think the Jesuit order was located friend? The guise of building schools and "teaching them" to be civilized was a guise to get them to open up and eventually be influenced by foreign powers, namely Spain and Portugal.

Can you imagine if say Muslims went to England under the guise of building mosque to teach them Islam and how to be civilized under Sharia Law.

>>87034387
And yet you were still dumb enough to fall for the weakest bait I've seen in days.

>>87034462
>Can you imagine if say Muslims went to England under the guise of building mosque to teach them Islam and how to be civilized under Sharia Law.

Well if England was a primitive forest nation with tribal savages living in mudhuts and running around naked, that wouldn't be a problem would it?

I mean, how is it different to what the Romans did to England. Before the Romans, England was abo-tier, the Romans brought civilisation and christianised them.

>>87033325
Buddhism featured very similar persecution when it first arrived tok.

>>87033512
shhh. Don't let them know.

Japanese are xenophobic monsters unwilling to accept an Abrahamic religion. It's well known that Abrahamic religions are the basis of civilized societies and societies can not function without the decency of the moral lessons of the Jewish created god.

This is why so many Japs are xenophobic against immigrants coming into their country, it's ingrained by not accepting Jesus or Muhammad as their prophet.

Like the film said, Japan is a swamp and deserves the nuking that Kim Jong will give them right before he gets nuked out himself by Trump.

>>87032923
>Christianity will never stick with japanese people
He was right in the end.

>>87034023
Ah yes, another one of those "the Jesuits had Abe Lincoln murdered!" types.

>>87033347
Good post

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>>87034246

>>87032923
The buddhists werent kidnapping japs to sell as sex slaves

>>87033347
based weeb autist faggot

>>87034023
underrated

>>87033347
I want someone to post Jiro copypasta now.

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>>87034462
>Can you imagine if say Muslims went to England under the guise of building mosque to teach them Islam and how to be civilized under Sharia Law.
>imagine
>if

>>87033512
They consider chinese to have impure blood due to being invaded too much time from the north.

>>87034834
That was the joke, buddy.

>>87034864
Who said this?

>>87034183
>creation
FUNDIE GTFO REEEEEEEE

>>87033512
Japan like all nations with superiority complexs, consider themselves purer Asians than chinks. Chinks and Koreans are too mixed, South East are too niggerish,

>>87034913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSB80fkMlds&t=15m45s

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>>87034555
WHITE PIGGU GO HOME

>>87035168
You guys aren't fucking your women, let us in and we will fuck them for you, they all crave our BWC

>>87034882
That was me further driving it home to Mecca. Praise Allah.

>>87033347
gomenasai Ken-Sama

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>>87035192
>BWC
>W

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>>87035385
>W

>>87035385
shut up niggers, porn isn't reality, asians worships whites and hate blacks far more than white people could

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>>87035406
>>87035385

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>>87035385
>>87035406

>>87035485
China literally bans depictions of homosexuality on its domestic tv. Weird country.

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>>87035417
I am actually white, but know how that triggers you conservaflakes.

I actually might enjoy amwf stuff more.

>>87035485
Americans are going to be double offended by this; one because it implies blacks are unattractive, but even more so because it implies Asians are attractive.

Hating Asians is socially acceptable in America because it's a prejudice that mostly white women and black men hold.

>>87035485
thought that was a korean ad?

>>87035575
I guess you have never many any black male anime fans

>>87035583
nah chinese characters

>>87035575
Actually it's socially acceptable because while they integrate well overall, Asian-Americans are notoriously racist and exacting, and that's not even the half of what their native brethren are like, so whenever an Asian talks about muh racism they deserve to be raffed at even more than if they were black. Asian-americans also make a median wage significantly higher than whites, higher even than just Jews taken by themselves, so they're clearly not lazy enough to try to claim the oppression card.

>>87035561
That sounds like a cereal.

>>87035417
Sadly this is true. Also Asians have shit facial recognition for white people, all they see is status, and automatically assume any white guy is high social status just because he's white, even if he's someone other white women wouldn't touch.

t. ugly white guy dating a Japanese girl who always says her japanese ex-boyfriend was ugly

>>87032923
>hates Christianity for being a foreign religion not native to Japan
>worships buddhism, a foreign religion not native to japan

Fucking brainlets man. He didnt "hate" anything. He was an appointed inquisitor tasked to root out Christianity. If you had understood anything from "Silence" or the history of Christianity for that matter, you might have realised that it was a mental escape for the poorest of the poor. Feudal Japan, not unlike Rome around the year 0, was a brutal and miserable existence for the farmers and fishers. Poor land and high taxes made them suffer. They suffered from famine, from disease, from the boot of their local lord or samurai bully.

Then suddenly some funky looking dude dressed in black comes ashore and starts teaching about "salvation". Hes truly believes that if you accept Jesus Christ and you repent, you will go to a special place in the afterlife and your pain will be gone.

Thats why Christianity spread like a wildfire in Europe. Rome had millions of slaves. All of them clung to the hope and the belief that they would have a second chance at existing in the "next life".

Japan as an isolated yet advanced empire around 1600, saw what had happened to their neighbors who had let in Jesuits into their culture (or Imams for that matter). They knew how dangerous Christianity would be, if they allowed foreign influence over their own subjects.

Hence they rooted out the virus with severe punishment.

Thats what I loved about "Silence". It shows why historically it was so easy for people to chose to believe in a better life.

>>87035595
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots#Korean_Americans_during_the_riots

>>87035647
Asian-Americans aren't racist, the American born and raised ones are notoriously leftist if not full on SJW. The racist ones are the first generation migrants who just arrived from Hong Kong and speak basic engrish

>>87033530
they had more american connections

>>87035561

Yeah, doesn't change the reality tho. IR in japan is seen more as a bestiality thing. There's a reason there's gaijin hunters, and they're lookin for whites m8.

>>87033347
I work with Japanese people.

I showed them your post and they all laughed and called you a faggot.

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>>87032923
Japanese society, specifically the Japanese shogunate, was not particularly religious at the time. The opposition to Christianity came not from the fact that it was an alternative to Buddhism, but because it was an alternative to the shogunate's authority - the same reason Japan remained an isolationist country until it was pried open by America's big, black ships.
And, importantly, religion doesn't discriminate by class. It was only natural that people were appointed to aggressively root out social forces which would undermine the dominant power structure from the bottom up.

Also, I can't really remember, but I believe Buddhism was initially established in Japan in much the same way that paper currency was incorporated in China; that is, under the threat of death. So it is historically an apparatus of the country's power structures.

Source: I am currently listening to Japanese funk-fusion on YouTube.com

>>>/pol/

>>87036046

This is completely wrong, you didn't even try

Go back to /his/

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How can Japan reject Christianity if Jesus was buried in Japan?

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>>87033347
probably bait, but just in case

ITT: 400lb weebs

>>87034420
I wish I never made this popular

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>>87034246
>proto-kangdoms

My 11/10 Japanese gf just said "baka" after skimming through this thread. And she is now motioning me to the shower....

>>87034250
Half the time. Not always.

>>87033347
based nippon jap kakashi futanari desu

>>87033347
read this post and tell me we shouldn't have finished what we started in 1945. Nagasaki and Hiroshima represent a job half finished. this faggot gets to walk around and probably jerk off to cartoons about squids fucking schoolgirls. We need to nuke japan to save the world from degeneracy

>>87034966
There were different alliance in Japan. It's not always like this

>>87033512
>and somehow it's Japan's or Chinese's fault

>>87036197
ITT: trolls

>>87036438
>someone typed this out and thought it was funny

>>87036438
>Nagasaki and Hiroshima represent a job half finished.

They were the second and third largest cities in japan.

You know why neither fatman nor little boy were dropped on the capital, tokyo? Because it had already been burnt to less than ash by a long firebombing campaign.

>>87036506
ITT: I feel confident speaking for a whole race of people I have never met, because I finished 4 Final Fantasy games.

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>>87034343
Easy there, son.

>>87036531
fuck off weeb

>>87036542
The firebombing killed more people tha the atom bomb, just that it took many many many times more bombs for that destruction.

>>87033512
Jomon shamanism is the only "japanese" religion

>>87036595
I don't have to play final fantasy to know calling for genocide on 4chan is trolling

>>87033512
>the 弥生 virgin
>the 縄文 chad

>>87034246
Finno Korean Hyperwar kino when?

>>87036774
Whatever xXSquallxSephiroth2013Xx

>>87036678
you first reddit.

>op clearly has multiple PhDs and is a master of history and religion

kys. it doesnt get better when you turn 14.

>>87032923
it had nothing to do with where it originated

it had to do with Linguistic Relativity. the Christian Meme cluster was incompatible with how the Japanese interpreted their surroundings

to give you an example between English and French. in English when i say blank you interpret this as "empty or void". in french Blanc is their word for White as a shade which has specific appearance that you can think of. perhaps this seems like a trivial difference but when this separate interpretation is allowed to develop in its own separate culture over hundreds of years in art, poetry and the general way of thinking of a populace it has a profound affect on humans exposed to that language group as opposed to a different language group.

in the movie Liam Neeson points this out by telling spiderman that when he asked for the Japanese word for god they gave him a word that translated to literally mean the sun. Sun worship or the anthropomorphism of natural occurances or symbolic meanings as spirits or dieties isn't uncommon, but it is inherently different from the monothiestic conception of God in Christianity who is not a representation of the natural world but is interpreted as a prime mover or god mind creating the totality of the entire universe

>>87033347
just in case anyone is wondering. this guy is completely wrong.

there were 2 types of Buddhism that surfaced strong followings in japan (during what is referred to as "imperial japan"), neither were native to japan, nor were they shintoism.

>>87033512
Japs are genetically Korean, but the point stands.

>>87036885
Whatever troll

>>87032923
You didn't get the film at all. You're apparently very hard of hearing or just very, very stupid.

>>87034183
DUDE THERES NO DEVELOPMENT IN DARK AGE

>>87032923
>>87033347
But the most important fact is ignored
>the japanese are fucking retarded

>>87038373
This, we are talking about a country that was still stuck in a feudal system in the 19th century

>>87034212
underrated

>>87035698
What's interesting is it followed the same pattern as its growth in Rome. First the poor, than the noble women, then lesser noblemen, until it started attracting powerful patrons like Date Masamune. If the Sengoku Jidai had gone in a slightly different direction, Japan could have been as Christian as the Philippines within a few generations. Though I believe it would never have ended up a quagmire like China or the Philippines, Japan had too robust a cultural social frame work that China, due to corruption and decline, was losing, while the Philippines was of a much less centralized, tribal national level so it was an easy in for the Spanish.

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>>87033347
10/10 bait friend

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>>87033347

>>87036748
>Jomon shamanism
Its called shinto.

>>87032923
Learn your history.

Only the Dutch were bros to the Japanese. They just wanted to trade shit, not stir up trouble or convert people.

Japs were right to purge the Christians. The Portuguese would have started burning down Japanese artifacts or historical buildings when they got the chance too.

Christianity always turned super weird in Asia, anyways, and the cause of much instability.

For example, in China, Ancestor Worship was a very big thing yet foreigners told the native population that their ancestors were false gods and you should realize the impact such a statement would make on stability in China.

>>87039015
t. dutch

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>>87033347
wew