/who/ - Doctor Who General

Redpill me on the Blackpool accent. Blackpill me on Blackpool

Reminder that here you have a selection of TARDISposting watermarks.

What you do with them is at your own discretion.

http://imgur.com/a/aHAas

>>87001048
Blackpool is where you go on holiday if you're middle class and poor. It stinks and is filled with crime, fish and chips and lights.

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How has your day been /who/?

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Whoever the anon was who told me to read 11's titan run thanks, this shit is fantastic!

>tfw goth girl from those doctor who fan films looks exactly like my ex

Why live?

>>87001205
It's over, I'm comfy in bed. How's yours?

>>87001188
Are there lots of gals that talk like Clara there?

>>87001288
Good, it's summer slightly panicky that it'll be over and I'll be in university soon but I'm just about to finish the Hartnell era in my marathon of classic who and I'm looking at getting a new phone to store and play big finish stories properly. Just chilling out I guess before I've got to do work again!

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So I've just been hit with the realisation that since my gf left me I've done nothing but drop out of school, retreat into my house and hardly leave, and cut myself off from any and all IRL social contact, instead deciding to spend all my time with a /who/ tab constantly open while she's likely gone off to be happy, and forgotten about me completely since it happened like 5 months ago while I stay pining over her knowing that I will never be with her again and never be that happy once more.

I want to die, /who/????

also to keep it tangentially DW related, capaldi is great

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/who/ its my birthday today!
22 years!
We all gonna make it!

>>87001829
We appreciate the fruits of your exessive free time.
At least you've had a gf ;_;

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>>87002028
Happy birthday anon!
Have a good one

>>87002028
Happy birthday, anon!

>>87001829
I know how that feels, and you just have to accept that you won't get her back and go on with your life trying to be happy without her, and you'll probably realize you're better off that way

>>87001288
Clara's accent is called 'Lanky' by us Brits. Most people who grew up in NW England, specifically on the Irish Sea coast have similar accents.

I love the accent personally (my Dad grew up in St. Annes, slightly north of Blackpool, and has the same accent).

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>>87002028
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ANON!

>>87002607
*ahem* Dad just informed me St. Annes is slightly south of Blackpool.

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>>87002655
Thanks guys! /who/ truly is the most comfy place on 4chan.

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>>87002028
Happy birthday, anon.

>>87002028
DINNER TIME

happy birthday

>>87000976
Reply to this comment if you liked Simm's Master even before he came back in series 10

>>87003998
hey

>>87002028
Happy birthday, Anon!

>>87001829
I'd grab a beer with you if I could Lymmy

>>87003998
I CAN'T DECIDE
WHETHER YOU SHOULD LIVE OR DIE
OH, YOU'LL PROBABLY GO TO HEAVEN
PLEASE DON'T HANG YOUR HEAD AND CRY
NO WONDER WHY
MY HEART FEELS DEAD INSIDE
IT'S COLD AND HARD AND PETRIFIED
LOCK THE DOORS AND CLOSE THE BLINDS
WE'RE GOING FOR A RIDE

OH I COULD THROW YOU IN THE LAKE
OR FEED YOU POISONED BIRTHDAY CAKE
I WON'T DENY I'M GONNA MISS YOU WHEN YOU'RE GONE
OH I COULD BURY YOU ALIVE
BUT YOU MIGHT CRAWL OUT WITH A KNIFE
AND KILL ME WHEN I'M SLEEPING
THAT'S WHY

I CAN'T DECIDE
WHETHER YOU SHOULD LIVE OR DIE
OH, YOU'LL PROBABLY GO TO HEAVEN
PLEASE DON'T HANG YOUR HEAD AND CRY
NO WONDER WHY
MY HEART FEELS DEAD INSIDE
IT'S COLD AND HARD AND PETRIFIED
LOCK THE DOORS AND CLOSE THE BLINDS
WE'RE GOING FOR A RIDE

>>87004169
*John Oliver saying cool*

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>>87003998

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>>87000976
Shit guys, sorry, I've been out for some days now.

REMINDER THAT FLORAL COAT

>>87004328
GOAT scene

What happens if someone from the team is actually filming a minisode?

>>87005064
What do you mean?

>>87001829
You sound exactly like me 25 yrs ago.

My bf (I'm a female anon), ended a relationship immediately after finishing our degrees. To this day, I still have no idea why, he never explained. Completely broke my heart at the time, because I was sure we'd stay together forever.

First loves are always the hardest to get over. But, the simple fact you have already experienced that love makes your heart more open in the future.

>>87005466
>female anon

top 3 fav episodes
RTD or Moffat
best regen story
number of bigfinish listened to

NOW

>>87005706
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>87005814
Some of us don't interact with women very often.

http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/NuWho_haters

KEK someone's salty

>>87002028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpSzyvAsaEg
HAPPY [22ND] BIRTHDAY

>>87005870
I should point out that it's the same person who was editing it earlier today, too.

>>87005865
Neither do I but bombarding them with questions about their tastes in Doctor Who probably won't help

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Whonatics article when?

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Hi /who/ - what's everyone up to on this fine evening?

>>87006333
Are these the twats getting upset over the nuwho haters wiki page?

>>87006385
The usual

nothing

>>87006441
Yep. It's fucking hilarious.

>>87006385
Nothing much, halfway through Dalek Invasion of Earth. Had some actual plans today but they got canceled back to sitting on my ass and watching Classic Who like I've done nonstop for the past two weeks

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Really makes you think

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>>87006447
o-oh. Not got anything to watch/read/listen to? There's a while to go yet but Edge and I are having a comfy movie date at 7pm EST, assuming he hasn't forgotten. We'll be streaming the tv movie, and everyone's welcome, so if you're bored and still have nothing to do, you ought to come along.
Speaking of that:

>>87004072
pls no forget date

>>87006459
I checked the FB page and I see the distinguished Adam Orford has weighed in on the conversation, because of course he has. I'm surprised they haven't given up yet.

>>87006729
>halfway through Dalek Invasion of Earth
Pretty good choice there, anon. And don't feel bad about sitting around watching Classic Who - as long as you're happy, there's nothing wrong with that. "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time," and all. But, for the record: if you're not happy, /who/'s here for you should you need the support!

>>87006927
Yeah, this serial is pure kino. I know, thanks, /who/ is more supportive than a lot of my IRL friends most of the time

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>>87006927
I haven't forgotten, Anon! Looking forward to it :)

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>being so devoted to hating New Who that instead of praising a writer, you say how much better they are than the new ones

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>>87007085
You reminded me that I ought to rewatch it, actually, but I've got so much stuff piling up that I want to get through before my next semester starts, I'll just need to add it to the list. On one hand, I'm glad that /who/ can be there for you, but on the other, I'm sorry to hear that your irl friends don't support you quite as much as they perhaps should. At least, if nothing else, you'll always have this weird bunch of internet strangers here to give you a helping hand.

>>87007203
Excellent! Hopefully a bunch of people will join us for the ultimate comfy movie night, it'll be great.

>>87007203
>>87007368

YOU GUYS ARE SO WHOLESOME I LOVE IT

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TOP KEK

>>87007368
I would join you but I'm watching the classics in order and was going to finish with the comfy movie. It's not that they aren't supportive but I feel like they just don't really understand me and they always leave me out of shit without caring. Man do I love all you /who/res

>>87005706
I'm a female anon in my 50s. Visit /who/ regularly, married, 2 teenage sons and a daughter age 11.

Been told to get a trip but prefer my anonymity.

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>>87007553
I also have this level of 'tism, I can't watch classic who streams because I'm incredibly anal about watching things in order.

>>87007368
Don't forget to bring snacks for ultimate comfy

>>87007405
Love you too, Anon!

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>actually thinking the BBC is that bothered by you not renewing your TV license

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>>87007935
>Called Lymmy Anon

I have failed you I am sorry

Do you want to hit me once for being bad?

>>87007588
I don't believe you.

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>>87007405
It's McGann/Tennant fan solidarity, nothing but the purest of love shared between us.

>>87007553
No worries at all, that's a noble pursuit and I wouldn't want to interrupt your watch order. Have you seen the tv movie before? I'd guess you probably have, but I've encountered a surprising amount of people who've just never gotten round to it. Ah, yeah. I know the feeling all too well, and it sucks. I wish there was some sort of advice I could give to help remedy the situation for you, but I'm afraid I've never even managed to fully solve the problem for myself. All I can say is that hopefully one day they'll come to their senses and appreciate you and your interests that bit more and... if they don't, well, I'm very certain you'll find someone else out there who will. Not that I'm suggesting you cut ties with your current friends, but all the same, you deserve to be surrounded by people who appreciate you.

>>87007917
>Don't forget to bring snacks for ultimate comfy
Always. It wouldn't be a proper movie night without snacks, would it?

Edge, why 10th is such a cringe in series 3? I know he misses Rose badly, but he's such a dick it's hard to watch.

I am here, watching him and asking "why???".

Also it's really funny how Ten/Simm seems to be more hit and miss compared to 12/Missy. I really like the friendship vibe and not the dominatrix/abusive/whatever the hell that was bullshit.

Also Edge, please do tell me, do you think 10/SimmMaster is a sexual relationship?

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>being this original

>>87007539
I saw that vid yesterday, popped up in my recommended for whatever reason. Although I agree with the core message, the video it's just him reeing for 15 minutes.

>>87008032
I saw it once when I was very little, and then again when BBC America was doing those Doctor Who Revisited specials and I loved it. Every Who fan should be forced to watch it imo Thanks, I've been trying to make some new friends. I'll stop derailing /who/ with my personal problems though

>>87007539
>>87008279
Yeah, I wouldn't call him a hack fraud, a shit writer, sure, but I'm not sure where he gets hack fraud from.

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>>87008032
Here is a rare picture of McGann and Tennant

>>87008057
He's too busy crying over Rose to notice that he's hilariously friendzoning Martha, he's pretty oblivious

12/Missy is comfy, she's great fun to watch.

I dunno about 10/Simm, Davies and his ~GAY AGENDA~ amirite? No but seriously 10 seemed like he was pretty down to get pegged by the Master all the fucking time, he was whipped. Even after going on a murdering rampage 10 invited him into the TARDIS. Twice.
>'pls come with me into my time machine that you totally won't abuse, you killed like thousands of people, I can make you better maybe'
>are you asking me out on a date
>wonder what i'd be without you
>now i have someone to care for

Also the bondage chair. The fucking bondage chair. That entire scene.

Davies really loves his gay undertones.

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>>87006744
This is like those Trekkies who still can't accept that TNG is a show.

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>tfw spam is the most reasonable post in a group

Why are these guys so assblasted by the NuWho Haters page on the wiki? I've had to undo half a dozen edits by these loons.

>>87008593
They're old and dying.

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>>87008302
I agree. At the very least so they can get to fully appreciate Eight in that scene with his new shoes. Probably my favourite bit in the entire movie. No worries, people talk about personal shit all the time on here. Nobody really minds, and we're discussing the show alongside it anyway. /patpat

>>87008454
>the love in tennant's eyes as he stares up at mcgann
He knows. He understands.

>>87008564
who here /hugefanoffascinatingdoctorcharacter/

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>I just don't want to see a woman in the lead roll in my favorite TV show plain and simple

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>>87007935
>Dr Whop

>>87008944
Stereotypical Italian Doctor when?

So i just listened to the 'master' audio.
Fucking hell that was actually pretty great. This might just be my favorite audio so far.
What other doctor who audios are considered high tier? I can't seem to find a recommendation list.

>>87009145
Have you listened to "Davros"? that's pretty top tier as well and you'd probably like it if you enjoyed "Master"

>>87001829
It's just loss of a love. It'll pass.

You can certainly be that happy again. Maybe a different sort of happy.

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>>87009145
This is a couple of years old but pretty good.
It's not like there have been any memorable Doctor Who audios in the meantime.

>>87010911
That's a good list. It's also worth branching out to other radio dramas as well, outside of Big Finish, and even outside of Doctor Who. Neverwhere, Good Omens, and the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (fun fact, the radio series is the original, before the books) are the best audio dramas the BBC have produced imho.

>>87011792
You got any more radio drama recommendations?

>>>/his/3302695

>>87012150
Different anon. BBC LOTR was legendary before film adaptations, also literally massive in era of physical media. Asimov Foundation is good too, its on Archive.org.

Tbh Radio 4 (sometimes 3) churn out an endless amount of good content. I like the adaptations they did of Pepys Diaries.

>>87012150
Keep in mind my only real source for this is basically BBC Radio 4, my reccomendations would be any of the adaptations of something by Wally K Daly or Ray Bradbury, if you like sci fi a lot, Mort by Terry Pratchett is pretty good also but that's just Terry Pratchett in general.

Personally, I love easy listening, usually sitcoms, about 20 mins long. There's one called "Cabin Pressure" that I absolutely love. Sometimes BBC will put out something with Big name actors in it, and that usually means the SFX and sound quality will be fantastic, though that doesn't automatically make the thing good.

There's also some great comedy sketch shows, like "That Mitchell and Webb Sound", and a Monty Python-esque one called "I'm sorry I'll read that again" but that one is incredibly absurd

>>87012714
>There's one called "Cabin Pressure" that I absolutely love.
That was the first full radio show I listened to, and it's spectacularly funny. Definitely worth a listen for those who haven't heard it before.

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>still doing this shit

>>87012634
>Asimov Foundation is good too, its on Archive.org.
As are all five seasons of the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy, and probably a lot of other really old audio dramas

Is it worth listening to every single audio?

>>87013750
I'm not sure if that's even possible.

>>87013750
every Big Finish? every audio file in general?

>>87013831
Well, it is... but it'd take quite a while.

So it just occoured to me that the reason ten acts so off from Journeys end up until end of time part 2 is because when he regenerated in journeys end, his face may have changed but his attitude shifted just a little as well as the fact that that vetsion of the doctor experienced regeneration but kept the same face (a near death experience kind of)

>>87013831
>>87013848
Well, no, I was exaggerating. But I mean, is it worth listening to most main range audios or just sticking to the recommended ones?

>>87013907
I started to work through the Eighth Doctor audios and then recommended ones from the main range

>>87013907
I'd say it's worth it up to A Death in the Family.

>>87012267
Wanderer, did you do this?

Because it's annoying that this was just dropped on the his board, without the context of:

1) This is during the Thames Frost Fair, where races you wouldn't usually mix and mingle came together.

2) The 12th Doctor is a flippant sarcastic alien. He's intentionally being a little gruff.

>>87008277
The best part about this is that in Trust Me, when she says that line the person she's talking to reacts along the lines of: "What? Ohh, is this because you're a woman? You're just as good as any man."

>>87000976
Doctor Who is still for queers.

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>>87015007
;) u know it babe

>>87014679
plus it makes a good point that London was incredibly diverse compared to most cities in that time period. When Regency London is usually depicted, it is completely white. The episode exaggerates the diversity to point out that there were in fact different races back then, no matter what TV and movies tell you

>>87015007
Does anyone know why Doctor Who has such a high proportion of gay male fans? (Is that even true? I'm sure I read it once...) Feels like there should be a book about it.

>>87015401
have you seen the doctor? ooft

>>87015369
Exactly. You get it.

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>>87015583
It's not like the women are terrible, though

>>87015673
That is one lucky Dalek

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Why didn't the Doctor just dye his hair if he wanted to be ginger so badly?

>>87015401
>Feels like there should be a book about it.

http://www.madnorwegian.com/697/books/doctor-who/queers-dig-time-lords-a-celebration-of-doctor-who-by-the-lgbtq-fans-who-love-it/

>>87015673
Name

i heard some facebook users got pissed over the new who haters wiki page i made. is this true?

>>87016079
Yes. Very.

>>87015871
Not the same thing to be naturally ginger than painted on.

>>87016079
potentially...

>>87015673
Well, no, but there's a lot of straight guys that watch the show as well, so if attraction was the only reason people watch it, they'd be very much accounted for.

Anyways, I don't think its a case of Doctor Who having a disproportionately high LGBT audience, just that it's a very popular show and it's inevitable that there'll be diversity amongst those who watch it. It is surprising that so many people who've worked on the show in fairly high-up positions are gay guys, but I think that's just sheer coincidence rather than anything else.

Besides, the star of the show is essentially just an omnisexual*, genderfluid** individual who's accepting of people from all walks of life, so it makes sense that LGBT people might have a particular affinity with it that they might not with other shows.

*Or asexual, depending on the regeneration.
**In part because of regeneration, but also because of things like Twelve's statements in WEAT, or Eight's in the novels where he pretty much definitively states that he doesn't consider himself as a man or a woman - though the latter sort of agender thing might be exclusive to that regeneration, the Doctor definitely has a fairly flexible view on gender in general.

I guess, overall, it's an interesting phenomenon, but not a surprising one.

>>87016079
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/NuWho_haters?action=history

It's a wild ride.

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>>87016079
Yes, and they keep popping up occasionally to get angry and deface the page.

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>>87016336
damn. cats12 does it again

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>>87016387

>>87016247
There's also the idea of the Doctor as the "underdog." He helps represents the underserved, and and sticks up for the downtrodden.

>>87015401
I don't know if there's really a high proportion of gay viewers compared to your average show, but gay men are significantly represented in the writing and production history starting from somewhere in the 80s. The wave of fandom that carried the show into the wilderness years had a lot of gays in it.

As far as the classic show goes, the lack of the Doctor's participation in any sexual activities maybe meant he stood out from all the overtly straight characters on TV. Being the closeted kid who's just "not sexual" or "above all that" around all their male friends is an experience a fair few gay men probably relate to.
Then you have the theatricality, colour and campness of the show, being almost as much about the art of the performers and designers (and having fun being a bit odd) as it is about the scary aliens.

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>>87016387
t. Planet Mondas

>>87016572
Is it bad that I laughed even harder at the "anti-NuWho edit" ?

We should put both versions on our site.

>>87016709
But we already have NuWho Scrubs as an article.

>>87016234
sure okay but he didnt even dye it once just for fun?

>>87016482
Yeah, exactly. That one quote from Robot of Sherwood pretty much sums the Doctor up, in that regard:
>Is it so hard to credit? That a man born into wealth and privilege should find the plight of the oppressed and weak too much to bear... until one night, he is moved to steal a TARDIS? Fly among the stars, fighting the good fight?
Of course, even in that society of "wealth and privilege," he was bit of an underdog, so his willingness to help is very much empathetic. So, really, his popularity amongst marginalised groups shouldn't be surprising so much as expected.

>>87016247
>Besides, the star of the show is essentially just an omnisexual*, genderfluid** individual who's accepting of people from all walks of life, so it makes sense that LGBT people might have a particular affinity with it that they might not with other shows.
I read something this guy said about doctor who, that in the 70s and 80s there were a lot of shows where the hero gets the girl, and a lot of romance subplots. Whereas in Doctor Who, there were a man and a woman with a fairly platonic relationship just getting on with their adventures. He said that, as a gay man, the platonic relationships were the big draw for him.

I'm not suggesting that it's the big reason why there's a lot of gay men who like the show, but it certainly seems like a possible reason, based on this one person's experience

>>87016924
I think the idea of "the Doctor as underdog" is a slightly recent one. Although I do like the idea that "the Doctor failed all his classes at the Academy" , the First Doctor's character arc works slightly better if he was always privileged, maybe even a royal. (Also, there's an implication the Doctor failed his classes because he prefers experiential learning to book learning.)

Trying to make him "as an orphan" or "half-human" as a reason for his caring ignores the beauty--he didn't have a reason to care. Barbara taught him to care, and so he does.

>>87017032
There's also the fact that the "no hanky-panky" rules led to the Doctor only touching his male companion.

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>>87017032
There's never gonna be one reason above all - it'll be a big mix of different things that generates the appeal for certain demographics, and a lot of the draw would almost be subconscious for some. In the sense that they never really actively acknowledge "oh, I like this show because _____" but they intuitively just... relate to it, or enjoy it, for certain specific reasons.

In terms of sexuality, for those that pay particular attention to those aspects of characters - either consciously or otherwise - I do think the Doctor's apparent asexuality in the Classic era would've been refreshing to audiences who couldn't exactly relate to the whole "hero gets the girl" aspect of things, or didn't quite enjoy it. It was a show that very much celebrated love in a way that a lot of other forms of media didn't (and even in this day and age, it's not common enough to find movies or shows that do that without it devolving into romance in some form) and didn't belittle platonic bonds or regard them as less than romantic ones.

Of course, new!who also does this too, but with the introduction of romance, it almost became an expectation that any deeply platonic love between the Doctor and the companion actually took the form of something different. Not that that's a bad thing, and if people want that then that's alright and fair enough, and I appreciate immensely how the whole Clara thing was left somewhat ambiguous (since that's the perfect example of a Doctor/companion relationship being interpreted in two different ways)... but, you know, the core of the show is still friendship, in many ways. That's something that's just universally appealing - it doesn't serve to inadvertently alienate any part of the audience, and it allows the concept of love to be explored beyond the confines of the neat little boxes it often gets placed in. It's nice, I enjoy it.

>>87017032
on a much more surface level thing, 70s/80s doctor who is very gay. is it vengeance on varos where they have buff bodybuilder type people sitting around in BDSM costumes?

is this show still a thing? I stopped watching in the early Matt Smith era

>>87017897
t.

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>>87017544
>I think the idea of "the Doctor as underdog" is a slightly recent one.
You're right enough, actually, now that I think about it. I was thinking too much about new!who's take on it all, really. Though an underdog doesn't necessarily mean one not born into privilege, and I'd say the Doctor's penchant for trouble alienated him enough from Time Lord society as a whole that he could be classified as one even despite living a life of wealth and power - if one is to believe he did just that. Accounts of his early life are so mixed up and all over the place at times, it's really just up to interpretation.

And I've said it before on here, but I agree with the idea of the whole "half-human" (and, indeed, orphan) stuff detracting from what makes the Doctor's motivations so... inspiring, almost. He's an individual who really should have no reason to care - born and raised in a society that teaches him to be passive, to turn a blind eye to those less fortunate, and pay no heed to terrible things that they had it within themselves to change. But then he goes out into this vast universe, and he meets all these strange, determined people and he sees impossible, dangerous things and he realises that everything he's been taught to believe is not, in fact, the indomitable truth of the universe, and that the power he harnesses can be used to help rather than merely observe. So he uses it for exactly that, and the rest is very much history.

Making him able to truly relate to those he saves detracts from the significance of the fact that he saves them at all - simply by giving him a reason to. It's much more wonderful, it's much more beautiful, and it's much more inspiring, to believe that he helps not for ultimately selfish reasons, but rather because it's just the right thing to do.

>>87018401
(Not that saving one's own is selfish, because it's still saving people. But it's an action that arises from the perception that one's self is part of a greater whole that must be protected. It's much more interesting to me to believe that the Doctor is an outsider, with absolutely no real reason to care about the worlds out there that are in peril, and yet he continually puts himself at great risk to help them anyway. Sorry, okay, that was all I wanted to add. I'll shut up now.)

>>87017885
The Caves of Androzani has that one character dressed in all leathers because he's "disfigured".

>>87017897
Yes, and it probably will be for a long while yet unless Chibnall kills it with his upcoming era.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2017/08/lucy-wilson-mysteries-260817090008.html
WHAT IS THIS SHIIIIIIIIIT

>>87018401
>>87018556

YES! You get it.

Although there are good stories to tell about the Doctor being half-human (I once read a story where the Time's Champion-era Seven meets his human mother for tea, and reflects what his enemies would think of it), it's just better if he has no relation to the people he's saving.

Make him half-human, and you almost miss the point. Make him under-privileged from the start, and you almost miss the point. Yes, the Doctor was always a little different from other Time Lords (he is a renegade, after all), but if you give him a "reason to care", you miss the point.

He doesn't have a reason, besides good decency.

>>87001829
you sound a lot like my best friend right now
he started antidepressants a couple weeks ago and now he just wants to be alone to think about his problems himself, as opposed to talking to me about everything so it's a huge change
I've been sending him messages every couple days just to ask how he's going just so he knows I'm still thinking of him, usually he just responds with something about how he doesn't feel like talking but this last week I haven't got a single response from him
I can ask his sister how he's going at the moment just to make sure he's not back in a psych ward or anything drastic like that, but besides that I'm not really sure what I can do. I don't know if it's psychologically healthy for him to be cutting himself off from everyone like this, and it's almost definitely a side effect of the meds he's taking - so I don't know if it's something he should just accept or if he should be trying to fight what he feels like and still talk to people. I don't know if it's a good idea to tell him that either

doctor who

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>>87018973
>He doesn't have a reason, besides good decency.
Exactly! Nice to see someone else on the same wavelength. The whole "half-human" concept is good, like you say, to explore in some stories, and even interesting to allude to, but I far prefer that it's always left ambiguous. As much as it's charming to think that we as "lowly" humans would have some sort of link to the Doctor in that way, it really does detract from that sort of... deeper connection, in which he loves humanity not because he's tied to it, but because there is absolute truth in all those times he waxes poetic about the wonder of us all. It's just a much sweeter thing on the whole when it's approached from that angle, and drives home the point that the Doctor is just a good person through and through.

>>87014679
No, I didn't make the thread.

>>87018946
Why does Lucy Wilson look suspiciously like Bill? And why is she alongside a bald man? Are they trying to trick people into buying this, thinking they're getting a Bill and Nardole book?

>>87018946
I hope they tie it in with the New Earth Series somehow, and maybe crossover with that Torchwood audio that had literally no characters remotely connected to torchwood

>>87018946
Gotta love Nick Courtney's ghost rolling his eyes on the cover.

Jokes aside, I don't mind this. Unlike Big Finish's recent spinoffs, at least this isn't stuff that can only appeal to hardcore fans who care about New Earth or McNeice's Churchill or any old shit from the show. It's a way to broaden the audience and that's always a good thing. I won't be reading them of course, but there's nothing wrong with making something for the kiddies.

>>87019284
Psst McGannon, 16 minutes to TV Movie kino, cytu be/r/cats12cats12cats12

Cats, are you going to watch too?

I'm making a pizza

>>87019222
He probably should talk to people. Ask his sister.

Are you the same one who wanted to watch Who with your friend who had just left the psych ward?

>>87019284
Exactly. (And it makes sense why you like Eighth Doctor so much, as he's the one who shows that enthusiasm the most clearly.)

What's your opinion on the Twelfth Doctor? I like him, but has he ever shown that enthusiasm?

>>87019401
Holy cow. You might be right.

>>87019455
I don't mind this either. Although:

A) It sounds like a parody book somehow, while also sounding serious

B) Is her friend seriously called Hobo?

Lucy Wilson story in Shit Trips Vol 2 when?

>>87019461
CASUALWHOSTREAM REEEE

>>87019396
Good.

>>87019637
>CASUALWHOSTREAM REEEE

B-But cats asked so nicely yesterday!

>>87019637
>spoiler
yes, but it hasn't happened yet since he went all isolation like a week afterwards once he started meds
Last time he messaged me he said he looked forward to hanging out again once this is all over but he just needs time alone for now, but if this isolation phase is due to the SSRIs it could be a really long time - I don't know what's best for him and how much of what I think is best is just my own selfish need to be with my best friend

>>87019859
Then just check in on him. Make sure he's okay, then give him space. Minimal contact is fine, but no one being able to contact him would sound bad.

>>87019975
Yeah I agree. I've checked in on him 3 times in a week now without a response so I'll go to his sister this time, I've got no idea what to do after that, if I should be bringing up that I'm not sure isolation is good for him or just accept what's going on

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>>87019637
>it makes sense why you like Eighth Doctor so much
I'm very predictable once my views of the character are laid out. Since all that stuff up there is a big part of what makes the Doctor so fascinating for me... Yeah, Eight is an unsurprising favourite to have, I suppose. Plus, he's really, really cute!

>What's your opinion on the Twelfth Doctor?
I really love Twelve, though I'm rather biased towards him because he's Scottish (maybe also why I have such a soft spot for Seven) and from round about the same area as me, so I'm morally obligated to like him. His care for humanity - or, just anyone in general - takes a very different form from, say, Eight, because he's far from outwardly enthusiastic about it all. He can be abrasive and dismissive, a little bit grumpy, but there's undoubtedly a heart of gold there. And for all that he almost bottles all that care up, and at times seems to hide it away under a certain amount of bluster, when it shines through, it's almost blinding in its intensity. Oh, god, this is all terribly poetic sounding. You see it with how full-on he gets about Clara in S9 and all, though. Of course, that's all the care concentrated on one person, but it shows pretty well just how much he cares and how strongly. I really enjoy Twelve, though, and I think he was a lovely take on the character for sure.

I could go on, but I'm off to go watch the tv movie. Maybe I'll expand on this later. Or probably not.

>>87020368
I get in a good discussion, and the person I'm talking to go and watches a movie.

We'll finish this!

>>87018946
>black granddaughter of Alistair
Any relation to Kadiatu?

>>87020478
I'm sorry! Blame Edge! It's not my fault, and you know I can't resist the chance to watch McGann in anything ever.

>>87020478
Come watch comfy McGann, Immigrant

>>87020090
If possible I'd stop by their place with some of their favorite things sometime when you *know* they would have fuck all better else to do and maybe gently insist on some time with them, or time out of the house doing something they used to enjoy, something with distraction if possible, like an arcade if they still make them. I've been dragged out of my house against my will in a similar fashion and while I really didn't enjoy it I was certainly appreciative and quite thankful for it after the fact and it did help, if anything the vitamin D. Good luck to you and your friend.
10th doctor a shit, all teeth and hair, like a teratoma .

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>>87020548
First cousin one removed from canon obviously

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>>87020650
APOLOGIZE

>>87020548
So couldn't Candy Jar just ask Aaronovitch for the rights to use Kadiatu? It's not like Briggs is using her in anything.

>>87020847
The kid-friendly vibe they are going for here does not work with the grim, gritty, and sexual vibe of Kadiatu's appearances in the VNAs.

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>>87020751
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, he's a tribble with teeth. Easiest (You) ever.

>>87020967
Immigrant, what are your top 10 VNAs?

>>87021152
I'll tell you my favorite: Timewyrm Revelation.

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>>87021004
I've been played like a fiddle

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Wow, rascists BTFO

>>87000976
>that image
JUST

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>>87021328
Hey diddle diddle, last I heard you were the cat with the fiddle.

>>87021658
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE IMPLYING, SIR

Reminder that Cats is more cletus than anyone else on this board because he hates homosexuality.

>>87021386
Yeah, Tennant's neck looks way too long and I don't remember Eccleston having that big a nose.

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>>87022022
Fur real? Come on, meow!

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>>87021658
I need more details about that cat's birth.

>>87022857
In the future people fuck cat furries and it's normal and widely accepted

you hear that immigrant

>>87022775
Don't frown Edgy. Watch the comfy McGann movie in the stream. You'll feel better in a yiffy!
>>87022857
I don't have them but I assume like most hybrids it was sterile and never reproduced itself.

>the Roberts Master but it's Gareth Roberts

>>87001829
Maybe one day you'll go back in time and end up marrying a woman in the past and end up being someone famous in history like Vicki being Cressida. Think about it.

I support a transgender companion.

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>>87024034
kek that's great

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>>87024034
oh that is fucking glorious, anon

I never realised just how GOAT Eight is until I rewatched the Movie, in which he was the absolute best thing about. I'm gonna listen to most of the Eight audios from here on out as so far I've only listened to a couple of (earkino) ones.

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>>87024613
My secret plan to get the world to love and appreciate Eight is well under way, and generating excellent results.

>>87024839
Well, I mean, you'd already sort of converted me in the past. But now it's gone to pure love of McKino.

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>>87024919
First, you. Next? The world.

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Did Geoffrey Sax have a foot fetish?

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What if the Doctor's next companion was an Ent?

>>87026251
You mean Treant?

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>Whoflix actually thinks Gareth Roberts is too left-wing

>>87026579
How was that even a political agenda? It was a joke that she thought the Doctor and Craig were gay.

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>>87026750
Never underestimate Whoflix.

If you tried to edit all the homosexuality out of Doctor Who, you'd be left with only a few minutes of footage.

>>87026579
>"partner"
what did he mean by this

>>87026791
>>87026579

can we get this guy's email address and send him gay porn

>>87026901
Who's the hetroest who character?

I listened to Doctor Who and the Pirates today, it is the comfiest audio I've listened to yet, and now I have Gallifreyan Buccaneer stuck in my head

sneed

>>87026999
what do you think that will accomplish?

>>87027040
you just reminded me of that song and now im listening to it on repeat. fuck.

I CAN'T DECIDE WHETHER YOU SHOULD LIVE OR DIE

>>87027879
Haha, sorry anon

WE GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON

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>>87028156
Who here liked Class?

>>87028240
I think you're the only one, Immigrant

>>87028240
I haven't seen it

>>87028240
the gays weren't twinky enough

Is there any other Doctor/companion duo with chemistry as wonderful as 8/Charley?

>>87026791
>Being nice to one another is a leftist globalist conspiracy that doesn't work!!!

Dear God.

>>87028485
10/Donna

>>87028485
12/clala

Just finishing rewatching Children of Earth. Daaaaaaamn, that was some good television.

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>>87028485
I definitely did not just make this edit right now and I won't stand for those accusations.

>>87029715
imagine being remembered for what you looked like 20 years ago

>>87029760
Imagine being remembered.

>>87029760
I suppose it's a problem - if you can even call it that - for all of the previous Doctors, really. But to be fair to McGann, he aged like fine wine, and I don't think anyone's looking at that photo behind him and thinking he let himself go.

>>87029868
Obviously he's a vampire.

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>>87029942
I have my suspicions about the entire family.

Who else would love a anniversary musical special with all the different Doctors singing Gallifreyan Buccaneer?

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Scaroth reporting in.

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>>87030092
As much as I enjoy the more "serious" anniversary specials (though not that it's necessarily one or the other), the opportunity to hear all the Doctors singing a fucking pirate song would be far too good to pass up. A musical special in general would be GOAT, especially if all the songs were as quality as Gallifreyan Buccaneer.

they're at it again on the NuWho haters page

>>87030317
Me too, I've wanted a musical episode for ages and with more than one Doc it would be great. Jodie singing while Capaldi plays the guitar would be beautiful

>>87030614
What is with that article that triggers them so much?

Doctor Who is dead.

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>>87030684
>Jodie singing
Does she have singing experience? Not that it'd be a requirement at all, but I honestly don't know much about her career. Either way, having all thirteen Doctors for a musical special would just be pure kino.

>while Capaldi plays the guitar
A certain someone can also play the guitar. What, you thought I could manage a whole post without mentioning him? Hah.

>>87031261
Are there any videos of McGann playing?

>>87030810
No clue. I don't even know how they found it. One of the recent edits - before it was reverted, anyway - seemed to imply that they're not gonna mess with it anymore, but something tells me it's not just one person, so I'm sure someone else will return to fuck it up again.

>>87031364
>How dare these kids have fun
is what I'm getting

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>>87031361
I've been looking around, but as of right now I can't find any. There's a couple of videos of him singing, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-lusyR_SYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4EXQYL0h_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgwZyr_giYI

We really, really fucking need a musical special with Eight.

>>87031558
Oh my goodness he's a talented singer, wew

>>87031593
Yeah, and he makes me fucking furious. How is it possible for one individual to be that perfect and actually physically exist in our world? I don't know. I truly don't.

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>>87031558
Oh, actually, close enough. There's a movie in which he plays the banjo. Not quite a guitar, but eh, one day I'll find video evidence of that too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXe44ReIGpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5p4q7LIoQQ

>>87031898
Your love for McGann is so pure, it's pretty endearing Anon

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>>87031928
Aw, thank you! I'm always grateful that my constant posts about him are tolerated so well, because I have a lot of love to share!

>>87001829
Really recommend you start doing more i r l social stuff. Gotta do new things and give yourself a chance to be happy.

>>87002028
Happy birthday!!!!! We're the same age now (:

>>87002607
Ooh thanks, I really like it.

>>87003998
I loved the shlock

>>87004072
>Edge
>just beer

>>87005064
In 3 hours gmt?

>>87005466
Also had a relationship end right after we got our degrees. Very nice point with the opened heart.

>>87013750
Ha, no, in terms of story quality. Maybe if you're a completion nut with tonnes of time.

>>87023423
Kek

>>87032650
good morning neo. or afternoon. not sure which it is for you

>>87028240
Me.

>>87032779
Afternoon, 2pm, had a busy morning (: how goes it?

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>he does it for free

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>>87032835
>had a busy morning
Oh, what were you up to if you don't mind me asking?

>how goes it?
Pretty good! I haven't been to bed yet but I'm heading off soon. Edge streamed the tv movie earlier, and I finally got around to watching the Zygon two-parter, so it's been a comfy night.

>>87032980
Well, I guess that explains why there were no Dalek VNAs.

>>87032650
>>Edge
>just beer

Kek okay you got me

@McGanon and @Immigrant, and anyone else in that discussion about the Doctor's motivation a few hours ago, you may be interested in this article of Sandifer's where he rages against the idea of the Doctor getting retrofitted into the monomyth http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/time-can-be-rewritten-32-death-comes-to-time/

>>87024613
8's audios are fantastic because there actually is a sustained throughline and character arc through them. It gets battered and mucked around with and isn't always handled well, but there's a proper attempt at a linear progression of the character.

>>87019401
Hahahahahaha you might well be right, that's nuts

>>87033052
Just sorting out some work stuff, paperwork, yadda yadda, gonna be moving overseas later this year and it's a lot of moving parts.

TV movie is always great fun, it was one of the first Doctor Who things I ever saw. When Eccleston started in 2005 I spent so long musing how the regeneration could have went between the two.

>>87033226
Hey I wasn't trying to dob on you or anything

the doctor mysterio xmas special was fucking GOAT. how did the internet ever managed to convince me it wasn't

>>87033993
I was pretty inebriated the first two times I watched it but agree it was comfy a f

>>87034150
for some reason i thought it was gonna be shit, but it pleasantly surprised me. nardole was great in it. i'm gonna miss him

>>87034193
I'm still hoping he'll come back possessed by Missy.

>>87031261
Sorry I didn't reply to you sooner lol but I have no idea if she can sing or not but she seems like she would be great in a musical

>>87034946
No need to apologise, it's okay. But you're right, she'd probably be great, and each Doctor wouldn't exactly need to be a majorly talented singer to participate anyways. They've all got lovely speaking voices as is, so I'm sure they'd sound nice just in general.

>>87034458
>He was the Master all along!

>i woke up too late to watch the tv movie

FUCK MY LIFE. THIS WAS ALREADY THE WORST DAY EVER NOW I MISS MCGANN I FUCKING HATE MYSELF.

>>87020967
All of the books she's previously appeared in have been out of print for ages, so there's no worry that a kid who likes a child-friendly Kadiatu book would suddenly pick up Transit. And it's not unheard of to put Doctor Who characters from one demographic to another, like when Sarah Jane starred in those audios that were darker in comparison to her prior show appearances, only to bounce back into lighter fare with SJA.

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>>87033281
I deleted my other reply to this post cus I'm a fucking idiot actually, but as even more of an idiot, I'm just going to recap what I said in the first place: thank you for the link to that article. I'm definitely going to give it a read once I'm a bit more awake.

>gonna be moving overseas later this year and it's a lot of moving parts
Maybe you saw the original reply, but the gist of it was that I hope everything goes smoothly for you. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of work involved.

>hen Eccleston started in 2005 I spent so long musing how the regeneration could have went between the two.
I bet the last thing you'd be expecting was a top secret regeneration between the two. What was your reaction to the War Doctor? I actually didn't know much about Eight at the time he was revealed, so I didn't have the conflicting feelings about Hurt's Doctor that I do now. As much as I enjoyed him in the role, I can't shake the feeling of disappointment that McGann never got more than just a minisode, when he originally ought to have been in the 50th. (Though, to be fair, I am still extremely grateful for the minisode - the darkest possible timeline would involve it never getting made at all. I'm so thankful that McGann agreed to it.)

>>87035355
Nooo, anon, don't say that! There's always a chance someone'll stream it again another day. I'm always up for watching the tv movie myself - I've seen it a few times already, and most of those rewatches were pretty recently. I always enjoy it, and it's good fun to watch with others. There were only about four or five of us in the stream, so there's still plenty on /who/ that might not have seen it in a while.

>>87035542
lol you do sound tired! it's all good, and thank you.

I'm not a fan of the War Doctor. John Hurt's a legend, and the 50th was good, but I don't like the concept or even think it makes much sense.

>WarDoc used as a older 'Classic' style Doctor to comment on the NewWho Doctors (e.g. him asking if the 'kissing' happens a lot later in the 50th when 10 gets married) makes no sense because War is post-8, and 8 is the one who started all the 'kissing' business. The Classic Doctors ended with 7, 8 was his own thing, and War isn't an era at all (this is why it annoys me to see him put between 8 and 9 on pictures, yes he literally comes between them, but he did not exist until 2013, a 2013 Doctor between a 1996 one and a 2005 one breaks the whole idea of Doctors and their eras, it awkwardly retrofits things. 8's pre-2013 audios were written with the expectation he'd get to the Time War. RTD originally offered a comic to depict an 8-to-9 regeneration, 9/10/11 were all written with the idea that 8 went to 9, until 2013. There's nothing wrong with a retcon, nothing at all, Doctor Who is built on retcons, but I think there's something annoying about acting like a retcon was there all along, I dislike Season 6B for similar reasons)

A while ago me and another anon had an interesting chat on what didn't work with the War Doctor, I'm not gonna repeat it all here but it starts here if anyone's interested https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/85721688/#85726914

This is another good discussing, focusing more on why 8 could have worked instead of War https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/86127289/#86134137

When you get around to 8's audios, you'll see certain story decisions being made that theoretically could have been to set 8 up as the Doctor who ended the Time War (some argue with me on this, will be interesting to hear your thoughts when you get up to them). Of course they had to rethink things after Night of the Doctor. At least that was GOAT.

>>87035542
But I wanted to watch it today since it was a plan....today was already awful enough because my friends stopped hanging out with me and they get together every Monday. The crippling loneliness is making things unbearable.

>>87035207
I feel it would work great with 6, 7, 8, 12, and 13 and anyone else they get would just be a bonus. I realize this would never happen on an actual episode of the show but I can dream

>>87035919
Sorry you missed the movie and even more sorry about your friends. I have similar problems and you they don't seem like very good friends, try going out and meeting new people

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>>87035814
Oh, I'm losing my fucking mind, Neo. I'm actually past the point of no return here with the lack of sleep. I have a bad memory at the best of times but I think I've reached a new low with this one.

>asking you about your war doctor opinions when i was the very anon you discussed him with in both those links
actually kill me. genuinely end my life.

I mean, thank you a bunch for digging those up again because I forgot what threads they were in and I wanted to revisit those discussions, but you have no idea how hard I'm laughing at myself right now. Ugh, I feel like an ass as well, you spent time grabbing those links. I'm really terribly sorry.

As for the audios stuff, from what little I know about the latter half of his character development in those, I do agree with you already about it all paving the way for him becoming the Doctor to end the war. Of course, that's coming from the perspective of someone who hasn't actually listened to them all yet, so maybe my thoughts could change, but I doubt by much. I do hope that Eight's Time War audios will be good - it'd be a damn shame to finally, properly get to see (or, well, hear) Eight in that setting and have it fall flat like it kinda did with the War Doctor.

>>87035919
I'm so sorry to hear that, anon. I wish there was something I could do to make you feel at all better. At the very least, I can offer a shoulder to lean on and someone to talk to. I know very well how much loneliness can hurt, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. You deserve happiness, and friends who'll value you as much as you deserve to be valued (which is, for the record, greatly). If you ever want someone to chat with, whatever it may be about, you know where to find me - just look for the McGann pics, because it'll usually be me.

>>87035943
A line-up of all the Doctors (and some spectacular impersonators for the ones they can't get for... obvious reasons) would be GOAT. Even if just in audio form.

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>>87036164
You generally have sleeping problems or is this a one-off thing? I know the feeling either way.

>when i was the very anon you discussed him with in both those links
ahahahahahahah that's hilarious! Well, I agree with your articulate opinions as much now as I did then!

>Ugh, I feel like an ass as well, you spent time grabbing those links
It's actually really easy when you trip, all I had to do was filter by my tripcode and "war doctor" and they were right there

>I do hope that Eight's Time War audios will be good
Even though I didn't like 8's last audio series (Doom Coalition), and they're a prequel to a series I hated (WarDoc), and I'm not a huge fan of 8 not fighting at all, I actually think these might be pretty good, the choice of companion is really really cool, and John Dorney (best writer BF currently have) has written 2 of the 4 stories in the first set.

>Starring Paul McGann and Rakhee Thakrar as the Eighth Doctor and Bliss, Nick and Benji can exclusively reveal the four story titles and writers for the first set:
>The Starship of Theseis* by John Dorney,
>Echoes of War by Matt Fitton
>The Conscript by Matt Fitton
>One Life by John Dorney.

*Shouldn't that be Theseus? Clever title either way.
But yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic about these.

>>87035919
I know it's hard and can be awkward but you should be putting yourself out i r l to hang out with new people, you don't deserve to just wallow or only get social interaction online. Look up clubs, meetups, trivia nights, cons, sports, bands, anything to get you out of the house and interacting with like-minded folks.

>>87035981
>>87036164
>>87036399
Thank you for the kind words you all. It was the only time of the week I got out of the house and it's kind of hard going back to being a shut-in. It's kind of hard to meet people irl because I don't going up to random people and I get scared sometimes. Plus my transportation situation is a little odd.

Today was just a sad day. Although if anyone wants to make me feel better slightly you can donate to my sadness fund that goes to video games and snacks and doctor who toys that enable me to dive into a pool of escapism.

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>>87036399
>You generally have sleeping problems or is this a one-off thing?
Any time I have an extended period of time off uni, I revert to this weird sleeping pattern that essentially turns night into day, and I end up going to sleep when most folks are waking up. I try my best to fix it, but I always gravitate back eventually. I'll be okay once I get back into a regular schedule.

>It's actually really easy when you trip
Oh. I've always wondered how you always have those links to hand so quickly. Makes a lot more sense now.

>I'm not a huge fan of 8 not fighting at all
Same. I fundamentally disagree with anyone who says he's not capable or just straight-up wouldn't. The audios (again, from my limited knowledge of them - feel free to correct me at any time if I'm wrong) sound like they do a relatively good job of setting up for his participation in the war, and the eventual ending of it, to be a logical conclusion of his character arc. That's not even taking into account the characterisation of Eight from the novels, if one were to include that at all.

>Shouldn't that be Theseus? Clever title either way.
Maybe there's a reason it's spelled differently? Or it's just a simple error.

>>87036469
No problem, anon. I understand what you're going through and I know how tough it can be - I'm pretty used to isolation at this point in my life, and regrettably I've grown pretty numb to it, but I know very well how much it can hurt. And it's okay to get a bit scared of speaking to people too, but do what I do and remind yourself that you're far cooler, far cleverer and far more interesting than you think, because if you're anything like me, your brain probably spends a lot of time trying to convince you otherwise. And those people you're trying to speak to will probably be as glad for the company as you are. And if they're not? I guarantee they weren't worth your time anyways. You just gotta stay hopeful until you find the ones who are.

Any of you nerds going to FanExpo this week? Lots of Doctor Who stuff and guests.

>John Barrowman
>Billie Piper
>Catherine Tate
>Matt Smith

Gimme a shout, come say hi!

>>87036802
Already saw John, Matt, and Karen at the nearby FanExpo last month.

>>87036865
Karen cancelled last minute this week, bummer. I've also somehow managed to scrounge up enough money to afford everyone's autograph. Super excite.

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>>87036469
>It's kind of hard to meet people irl because I don't going up to random people and I get scared sometimes
That's why you do activities that already give a pretext for putting people together so it's not so random, like sports or trivia or clubs or whatnot. I empathise with having a difficult transport situation though.

>enable me to dive into a pool of escapism
You know that won't ultimately make you any happier, gotta stick your neck out a bit even if it is awkward or scary. Small steps are fine but you gotta take some steps, just doing more snacks/vidya/toys won't get your life happier. Loads of people love snacks/vidya/toys too, I'm sure you can find some meetups/cons/clubs/board game nights/D&D sessions to join with people also into that stuff.

>>87036733
Yeah whenever I don't have a pressing need to get stuff done in the daylight I find it too easy to flip day and night around too. I find it easiest to do stuff at night.

>I fundamentally disagree with anyone who says he's not capable or just straight-up wouldn't.
In one of my shit trips I pull a lot of quotes from him in some audios very very much in favour of him doing it. There's evidence there to argue both ways but I reeeee when someone suggests the pro-fighting side is silly or unfounded.

>regrettably I've grown pretty numb to it
:( You deserve better than that.

>your brain probably spends a lot of time trying to convince you otherwise
Very good point, thinking is death to action, sometimes you just have to do without thinking cause your brain overdrives your fear factor and tries to sabotage you.

>>87036917
>managed to scrounge up enough money
Get enough commissions? Nice. I'd love to go but its worlds away, alas. One day.

>>87037007
Yep! Got enough, and some to spare!

>>87037279
Gay porn I assume, not faces of /who/

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>>87037321
Of course, it's all I'm good for.

>>87037391
could you not set aside your principles just for once and draw the goddamn trips from the secret discord

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>>87037007
Things are always much more peaceful at night, I find. I live with my family at the moment, so being awake through the night is pretty much guaranteed time to myself. Not that I don't enjoy their company, but admittedly, I don't think the concept of an indoor voice has ever crossed their minds.

>In one of my shit trips I pull a lot of quotes from him in some audios very very much in favour of him doing it.
Is that The War of the Doctor? Do you have link to it or will you leave me waiting in suspense 'til Immigrant gets round to compiling them all?

>:( You deserve better than that.
Eh, I won't lie. It sucks. But on the bright side, with university starting up again and my classes getting a bit smaller, I think it'll be a lot easier for me to meet some new folks. It'll be a miracle if I find anyone into the same stuff as me (at least to the depths I care for it all!) but being on the same degree program at least guarantees some overlap of interest.

>>87037408
I'm a trip, but probably not the one you were expecting.
I'm so fucking sorry, I saw an opportunity and I couldn't pass it up.

>>87037408
I have paying customers to attend to my dude, gotta get those dollar dollar bills so I can meet my doctor who heroes

>>87037507
Aaay lmao

>>87037007
The group I was kicked from was a d&d session actually...

They told me that I was not fun to play around because I have trouble hiding my emotions when something bad happens...I wouldn't rage or something but sometimes I would get upset or say something passive aggressive. But I wasn't the only one who'd do it and if you're around real friends, why should I have to censor myself instead of just being myself?

>>87036733
That's kind of hard since I legitimately despise myself. I can't stand my own existence. I wish I could regenerate like a Time Lord though. It would solve a lot of problems.

>>87037578
>getting kicked from d&d
what sort of sourpuss scrubs were you playing with, anon?

>>87037611
I can't say it's entirely their fault, I succumbed to a moment of weakness once or twice or three times and cheated by fudging my dice rolls but I didn't do it on important rolls or attacks and I only did it sparingly, aka when I had like ten bad rolls in a row. I know there's no excuse for it, but I don't think I should have been kicked. They're acting like no one's ever made a mistake before. I took full responsibility and apologized but they're not hearing any of it.

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>>87037507
Yeah the calm factor is a big one. When I have to do a normie sleep schedule I like getting up early early so I can at least get those few hours before everyone wakes up.

Also welcome

The quotes are in the 8/12 one I'm writing now, but I should actually put them in that War one too, I'll give Immigrant a revised copy when he's around.

Smaller classes do help! Good luck there. It's a shame the /who/ family is so spread across the world.

>>87037525
How much would you ask for for a pic vaguely like pic related (obviously in your style though, and probably with less people)?

>>87037578
You can learn to love yourself more, but stalling in the online/vidya/homebody cycle doesn't really lend itself to that.

>>87037668
>cheated by fudging my dice rolls
naughty

>>87037743
I dunno, desu I'm not confident with my people so I'll end up doing it as a /who/ request, as per the norm

>>87037743
I'm right here.

>>87037791
I know okay! I'm not saying it wasn't naughty I'm saying it could have been handled differently. That was only a small part of the overall reason anyway. I never get any sympathy man....

>>87037845
I'm on your side Anon, I don't think it really called to have you totally kicked from the game.


Speaking of rolls, I may have fumbled some of my own in my GURPS game and uh...

...Guys, are looms canon?

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>>87037578
>That's kind of hard since I legitimately despise myself. I can't stand my own existence.
I know this will sound terribly cliché, but seeking professional help might be worth it in the long run. I know it's a scary and uncomfortable prospect, but if you really feel this bad, they might be able to help you out. Even if it's just to give you a neutral party to talk things out with. I know we all are, in some ways, exactly that on /who/, but speaking face-to-face with someone trained to help lead people to recovery from dark times can make a world of difference.

>>87037668
With all due respect, they don't seem like very good friends. Obviously their D&D game is important to them, but fudging rolls occasionally, on non-important actions isn't worth rejecting a friend for. At least I don't think so. If I was in your position - assuming you feel that this isn't something that is repairable with them, nor would you wish it to be after how they've seemingly treated you - I would view this as a sort of fresh start. An opportunity to find new people who would treat you kinder. (For that insurmountable task, Neo gave some good suggestions - seeking out clubs and the like, though I do understand that it can be difficult if transport is an issue.)

>>87037743
Same here. Thankfully, classes demand I wake up at 5am most mornings, so I get alone time whether I like it or not.

Thank you!

>I'll give Immigrant a revised copy when he's around.
H-hey... slip me one too. Unless it's terribly spoilery. Regretfully, I already know a little too much about what happens in Eight's later audios.

>It's a shame the /who/ family is so spread across the world.
Your own damn fault for living in the back arse of beyond out in Australia. Let's just relocate everyone on /who/ to, I don't know, the fucking Bahamas or something. It's warm, it's sunny, and there's enough space for all of us.

>Davros had his eyes closed ALL ALONG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
I THINK I JUST PISSED MYSELF LAUGHING

/who/, I'm considering dumping my original idea for a framing story (the one with refugees from alternate universes), and instead using the 13 Trips fic as the framing story. What does /who/ think?

>>87038190
it's up to you, i'm sure people will like either one anyway. have you already written both of them?

>>87037799
Oh goodo, well here's a revised version of one of my shit trips https://pastebin.com/7UgHdDuy I fixed some typos and added some stuff to the start with 8. My 8/12 one should also be finished today, just working on that at the moment.

>>87038050
This, other anon. Professional help really is worth it, even if the wait times are long or the money situation is hard to sort out.

Feel free to read the pastebin I linked to Immigrant up there but be warned, 8 is only really at the start of it, and there are some hefty Neverland/Zagreus spoilers. I tried to obscure the EDA (audio) spoilers a bit and not name some names. Also the whole thing is a clusterfuck, but I had fun trying to make my headcanon into a narrative.

>Your own damn fault for living in the back arse of beyond out in Australia
Hey I'll be further north soon enough but still far away from Europe or the Americas lol. A lot of /who/res live in places I've always planned on visiting sometime though, Canada, Scotland, etc. I've always thought the islands off Scotland look so fucking beautiful.

>>87038190
I for one have faith in whatever you do. 13 trips would probably lend itself to being segmented anyway though.

>>87038272
The Thirteen Trips fic is nearly done; whereas the original framing story is halfway done, and would require much more work.

I'll probably recycle the original framing idea into ST Vol 2

>>87038310
Neo I need an advice
I piss myself laughing when I remember that Davros had his eyes closed all along
What do

>>87038340
Wear diapers?

>>87038050
Well I just recently got free health insurance, but I've never had it before so I don't know how to go about finding professional help that's covered by my insurance. I'm kind of a failure at life.

You've been saying some awfully kind words to me tonight, I appreciate that.

I still hate myself though

>>87038310
Thank you, Neo. Actually, might I post a sample of the original framing story for you to read? Tell me if you enjoy it.

>>87038420
Do some meditation. Find a quiet room, and breathe deeply for about ten minutes.

>>87038340
Remember that some people watched the entirety of Death in Paradise because they were convinced Kris Marshall was gonna be 13

>>87038447
Meditation is pure kino, greatly improved my life.

>>87038424
Go for it!!

>>87038420
Google it or ring up a health line or something, definitely worth it

>>87038486
https://pastebin.com/hP3Z9j0m

>>87038486
But Death in Paradise is a fairly good entertainment and it's nowhere close to Davros having his eyes closed THE WHOLE TIME

I think I've dont it again
I just pissed myself laughing

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>>87038310
>there are some hefty Neverland/Zagreus spoilers
Hm, in that case I might just hold off on reading it until I'm a bit further on in the audios. It'll probably be better for me to have full context anyway. When I get around to it, I'll let you know what I think - though something tells me I'll end up agreeing with you on pretty much everything again.

>I'll be further north soon enough but still far away from Europe or the Americas
Where are you off to then? I think I forgot to ask.

>I've always thought the islands off Scotland look so fucking beautiful.
I've not actually been to any of the islands, but I've spent plenty enough time further north, in the Cairngorms and all that. There really are some spectacular landscapes here, but I almost feel as though I've been desensitised to them because I've lived here all my life.

>>87038420
>I don't know how to go about finding professional help that's covered by my insurance
I'm not sure where you're from and how the healthcare system works there, but if you have something like a family doctor or so, you could make an appointment with them and inquire about any sort of help they might offer in that field. They might be able to refer you on to a specialist clinic. Alternatively, if there's any sort of health helpline you can contact - either online or over the phone (if you're comfortable with that!) - they should be able to direct you to the right people.

>You've been saying some awfully kind words to me tonight, I appreciate that.
I'm always happy to help someone in need. It's the least I can do. I'm sorry I can't help you more than I'm able, but mental health is always a tricky thing and sadly there's just no magic words that'll sort everything out in one go. I hope you find peace at some point in the near future; you deserve a happy life, I promise you that.

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>>87038524
>m f w I read "Beryl"

I love it, I don't recognise everyone but the ones I did recognise I was hype for.

>>87038596
Probably good call on holding off, I try to avoid spoilers where reasonable (I sometimes take a sabbatical from here in the onseasons for that purpose)

I'm off to Korea, I'll let you decide which one.

Yeah you definitely have a beautiful country. I mean Australia has tonnes of beauty too but like you say, you get desensitised to your own country. Only thing I don't really get desensitised to is animals I suppose, I treat my dog like it's the day I met her every day, and still get excited driving past the same llamas, sheep, cows that I drive by every time I go out.

>>87038776
Korea? Why?

>>87038776
Who didn't you recognize?

Was anything unclear?

Anything in particular you disliked?

Or liked?

>>87038776
>I'm off to Korea, I'll let you decide which one.
Just a wild guess here, but probably not the one further North. But that's pretty cool - I've got a friend who moved over there (not NK) and they seem to really enjoy it. It's a new sort of adventure, if nothing else.

>I treat my dog like it's the day I met her every day, and still get excited driving past the same llamas, sheep, cows that I drive by every time I go out
W H O L E S O M E

Anyone feel like throwing on some Pertwee like last night? It was maximum comfy.

>>87038885
Does anyone remember that pre-Series 8 painting of Twelve and Clara by a South Korean fan? The one that basically became a meme immediately?

>>87038822
Characters from books and/or comics.
Actual story and setup for framing was clear.
Nothing I disliked.
I liked the interactions a lot, and your general style as always.

>>87038816
New adventure, work, wanted a big change, fascinated by the country, easier to get started there compared to a lot of other places. I don't have anything tying me down a t m so I'm keen to hop around.

>>87038885
Yeah I had a friend who did it a while back and she really enjoyed it too, I'm pretty hype.

Animals are 2wholesome, I wish we got more animal companions.

>>87038992
lel pls link if you find it

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>>87038992
It was this one, wasn't it?

>>87039035
>jodie doesn't like animals
>S11 animal companion dream is dead

>>87039124
Yes, it was that one. Thank you.

What I learned from that picture is that someone from a very different culture could love that show just like we do.

By the way, would you read : https://pastebin.com/hP3Z9j0m

>>87039035
Animal companions would be hard to do in live-action.

>>87039399
Why not a nice trained show dog or cat? Or a pocket rat?

>>87039442
I wouldn't mind a cat that chills in the TARDIS, actually.

>>87039399
A trained animal probably shouldn't be too difficult, but I imagine it'd be difficult to write an arc around an animal.

>>87039184
I even found a clip of Peter and Jenna receiving it:
https://youtu.be/ovyQkVLIy6s

And I just read through the framing story, and it is excellent. You have no idea how happy I was to see Sam in it, as well. I think the whole thing fits perfectly round the concept of the shit trips anthology, and speaking of the concept... It's interesting enough to be a really long story itself. The idea of the Time War displacing all these companions, from all sorts of realities, and then them ending up in one place - each knowing a different Doctor, with all the stories that comes naturally with that... It's good. Really good. (And for the record, your writing is a pleasure to read, it flows so well.)

>>87039442
Just have a running joke all series wherein occasionally when Thirteen reaches into her pocket to grab something, she pulls out various pocket-sized animals instead.

>>87039488
Yeah. Maybe a pet in the TARDIS.

>>87039550
There's actually two separate alternate Sam Jones in this story. "Ellie Martin" is the Sam Jones-expy from the Sarah Jane audios. She's also a Valeyard companion in another audio...

By the way, have you read Unnatural History?

>>87028485
6/Charley
8/Lucie

>>87028485
8/Fitz is better.

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>>87039736
Well, I knew there was at least one alternate Sam, but I didn't know about her sort-of appearance as Ellie in the SJ audios.

I haven't read Unnatural History yet, no. I'm... getting there, slowly but surely. A wiser person than me might skip out some of the more slower-paced EDAs to get through to the important stuff a bit quicker, but I aim to read them all and I admit it's taking me a while. As far as I'm aware, Unnatural History is the book that properly deals with the alternate-Sam plotline that's popped up occasionally so far, but I don't actually know much of anything that happens in it. I tried my best to avoid spoilers where possible, and thankfully Sam's TARDIS Data Core page is relatively bare, so I haven't stumbled across too many of them accidentally.

>>87039937
An anon after my own heart. (Though I do like 8/Charley too!)

>>87039982
McGanon, what are your top 10 EDA books?

>>87040010
Like I said, I haven't read them all yet, and I've honestly only just scratched the surface. I'm only on book fifteen right now, which would be pretty good were it not for the fact that there's seventy-three in the entire fucking series. (In other words: I'm a fucking fraud of a McGann fan who hasn't even gotten through all of Eight's content.)

>how, pray tell, the fuck can you like fitz so much when you've not even reached his introductory novel
I've read excerpts, dialogue, character discussions, and all that. I've tried to avoid spoiling myself overly much, but I know enough about Fitz to know I enjoy his character immensely, and the rapport he has with Eight.

But, anyway, life story aside... Of the books I've read, my favourites (in no particular order) are probably Vampire Science, Alien Bodies, Kursaal, Seeing I, and The Scarlet Empress, but I could easily point out to you bits I love in all the other novels too. There hasn't been one I've disliked yet.

i miss capaldo and simmchad. where did they go :(