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What exactly were we supposed to feel during this scene? They

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What exactly were we supposed to feel during this scene? They present it like a happy wedding, but it's also Rhaegar cucking the Martells, Lyanna cucking Robert, which meant they're both responsible for Robert's Rebellion.
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>>86976155

It's hilarious because he literally abandoned his young children and took no responsibility. I guess he assumed their armies would squash the rebellion and went into full panic mode when Robert kicked the shit out of them so he went into the war personally and died like a bitch. The real contradiction is how Lyanna has no problem with Robert and her entire family waging war on her behalf on a lie where they'd die traitorous deaths if they had lost. Either she was kept in that tower and ignorant of the war or it's just plain bad writing.
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Do you think Season 8 will show us a flashback of young Robert pulverizing the little shit at the Trident?
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>>86976155
The rebellion sparked off when Aerys ordered Jon Arryn to kill Ned and Bobby B, and present him their heads.
Rhaegar started the snowball, but it was the King ordering the death of two Lords Paramount for little cause that made the war, something Bran seems to have forgotten.
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>>86976155
It's the scene that literally caused everything. Everything goes back to that one single moment. Was the only good part of this otherwise shit episode.
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Don't forget the prophet Lodos, who promised that the Drowned God would rise up and destroy Aegon the Conqueror.
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Is that Viserys actor?
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>>86976155
So Danys Brother is Jons dad?
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>>86977803
it's just the same actor. Danys brother is Viserys
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>>86976155
Not to mention that Lyanna is cucking her own family the Starks, by not telling them WTF they are doing even causing her own brother and father to be killed in a most torturous way. The only logical explanation is that they were both retarded, Rhaegar due to massive inbreeding and mental unfitness, and Lyanna due to being a dumb young thot.
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>>86976817
No it started before that when rick and bran came down to kings landing demanding lyanna.
Aerys demanted ned and rob AFTER he killed bran and rick.
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>>86976155
>What exactly were we supposed to feel during this scene?
Just the magnitude of Bran realizing his aunt wasn't raped or anything.
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>>86978305
>it's just the same actor.
That really threw me the fuck off for a second. I was like "Wait, what the fuck? How did he go back in time" before I figured it out
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>>86978504
>cucking her own family
I dont think that word means what you think it means
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>>86976303
I hope so. I hope we see him bend over that Targ and fuck him in the ass aswell as the Mountain going all rape on that Martel bitch.
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>>86976155
They were both so retarded.
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>>86978706
Well in that case Rhaegar didn't cuck the Martells either. Martells and Starks got fucked over by this stupid "romance"
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>>86976155

why the fuck is dany's brother in this ep?

flashback?
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>>86976155
Didn't realize him and Viserys were identical twins.
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Is Targs immortal? The guy looked exactly the same in the first season
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>>86976155
No, Robert was responsible because he wasn't ok with this - he was just an angry white male
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>>86978797
Now you know why Jon is the way he is.
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They really should have picked a different looking guy or used a diff wig for rhaegar he looks almost exactly like viserys
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Rhaegar abandoned his wife and children, to run off with another woman.
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I don't know why people are bitching about the Viserys resemblance, it was a family of people who were inbred to hell and back. Of course they would look alike.
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>>86979146
Why did Elia have to suffer so much?
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>>86976155
>Lyanna got her father burned alive
>Rhaegar got his whole family killed and little brother and sister sent off to brown people land to get buttfucked by horse lords
>all because it never occurred to them to just leverage his position as prince to get whatever the fuck he wants
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>>86979146
and that woman was another guy's bride. i mean he is a scumbag
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>>86978621
He did, but Arryn only rose in rebellion after Aerys ordered his wards' deaths.
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>>86979183
the only problem with rhaegar is that he's supposed to be some handsome dude but the dude they cast is uglier than viserys.
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>>86979183
Because everybody still kind of remembers Viserys so it's a little bit weird for a second to see the actor back after all this time
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The show is hitting plot points like a check list. You don't feel anything because there's nothing backing this shit up.

Littlefinger was killed off just like that, nothing clever or poignant about it other than your treachery catches up to you.

Oh, his neck was sliced like Catelyn's.
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Three turbo-uggos in the same frame together and a priest. Probably had the highest uggo ratio in any non-arya scene from any season.
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>>86979222
It's even worse now that we know Rhaegar annulled his marriage to Elia in secret but was still using the Dornishmen and having Lyanna give birth in Dorne.
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This shit makes no sense. All he had to do was send a fucking raven to tell people.
>oh hey guys the pope said it's cool sorry haha please no wars :^)

The ONLY people that would be upset would be the martels and robert. Dorne wouldn't be marching north and it would be the rest of the realm against the stormlanders. Do you think Robert would be able to rally all of his banners full support against the north, the riverlands, the crownlands, the reach and the vale? fuck no.

Making them actually fall in love and get a secret divorce and a secret wedding makes everyone involved a fucking retarded idiot. Most of all Arthur mother fucking Dayne who died like an idiot for no reason.

>oi ned ya daft cunt i don't care where ya was expectin me she's not a prisoner they were husband and wife. Go head on in because I have no reason to be guarding her from you at all
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>>86979183
It's more like he's an uglier version than Viserys when Rhaeger was supposed to be the ultimate pretty boy.
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>>86977803
>>86978305
dany had 2 brothers though
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>>86979146
He can't think of another name for his baby with jailbait Lyanna either
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>>86979554
Why they cast the same guy to play both tho?
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>>86979611
Rhaegar's annulment to Elia means their marriage never happened and his children with her are practically bastards. So he doesn't have two sons named Aegon, just one.
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>>86979067
He's meant to look a bit like Viserys, he's his fucking brother you utter fool.
You might not look like any of your siblings because your mother's had twenty something husbands. But in general siblings tend to look familiar.
Familiar, as in family.
Rhaegar is played by a different actor than Viserys.
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>>86979380
different actor.
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>>86978637
>Bran realizing his aunt wasn't raped or anything
he must have been so disappointed
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>>86979629
they didn't
Wilf Scolding plays Ragger.
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>>86979629
I really have no idea
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What the fuck this shit is confusing. This guy isnt the Targarian from the first season?
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>>86979880
that's because you're stupid.
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>I'll call him aegon. I always wanted a boy named aegon
>Uh dad my names aegon
>alright alright I'll call him Good Aegon. Or GA
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he should have played him
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here's the two actors side by side for you tards.
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>>86980076
Which one is which?
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>>86980076
That's Ragger on the left and Viserys on the right. Just to clarify for you fuckwits.
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>The rebellion was built on a lie! Lyanna wasn't kidnapped, she just went off with Rhaegar, secretly annulled their marriage and had a kid without telling fucking anybody so it looked like a kidnapping had occured prior to Aerys burning Stark lords alive
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>>86980118
see>>86980118
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>>86976303
Holy fuck, they better show it. And they better not do any of there little 'changes' to make it different in anyway. I wanna see Rhaegar get BLOWN RIGHT THE FUCK OUT.
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>>86978621
Didn't they come to Kings Landing demanding Rhaegar too? So they could fucking kill him? What kind of Morons do that to their king?
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>>86977051
I read the spoilers for next season... OMG it is really happening isn't it?
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Why did she name the child Aegon when he already has a son named Aegon?

Why did Rhaegar abandon his children like that?
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>>86980122
It's kind of funny how neither of them fucking thought of ANY consequences. They literally started the chain of events that led to what's happening, all for love. Thousands of people dead, because of them. And now CIA is gone because of them.
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>casuals think viserys and rhaegar have the same actor
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Weren't they supposed to be the 2 most beautiful people in the world?
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Rhaegar looks older than when he got gold poured on his head

Oh and Dani killed Jon's dad right?
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>>86980193
>bobbycucks THIS mad
glorious
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>>86980915
Bow before your king. Bow, you shit!
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>>86976155
>the most important reveal in the entire series
>given only 2 minutes of screentime in between incest
Thanks D&D
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>>86980076
Viserys was weirdly hot in a not hot kind of way
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>>86980338
>he already has a son named Aegon?
Since he annulled that marriage he technically didn't anymore, so he wanted a new son named Aegon.
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>>86976155
The entire fucking ASOIAF series is about the subversion of common fantasy tropes. We're dealing with the 15+ year fallout of these 2 idiots running off and eloping like a standard fairy tale story.
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>>86982532
In the books Rhaegar was trying to build a political base and restrain his father's power too, but D&D don't care about that.
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>>86976155
>Lyanna cucking Robert


Probably because she realized he was a dumb knuckle-dragging ape destined to become a fat alcoholic mess.
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>>86981197
anon i dont think you know how children work
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>>86976155
I HATE SAND
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>>86979037
Fuck you, Jon wasn't raised by Prince Retard and Cumwhore Stark thank fucking god or he wouldn't have any morals.
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>>86979067
Rhaeger and Viserys are brothers incase you forgot and seeing as Targs inbred like no one else in history it makes sense siblings look very similar.
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>>86979222
At this point I wish she would've married Jaime instead and Oberyn could've taken Cersei away to Dorne and cater to her penis envy so everyone's atleast happier than this timeline.
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>>86979428
My fucking sides.
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>>86979940
I'm laughing but seriously fuck Ragger
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>>86981193
I agree, Ragger is just kind of meh
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>>86983688
He was also obsessed with the whole pact of ice and fire that hadn't happened yet and giving birth to a dragon son or whatever because Bran and Dany fuck with him through time travel probably.
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>>86981197
t. Ragger

>>86983744
she really made the right choice considering what happened. Fucking retard, she's wouldn't have been the first woman to marry someone she doesn't want to and she sure as fuck wouldn't be the last.
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>>86979183

It was the hair. The hair should have been a different style
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>>86981160
>>the most important reveal in the entire series

It's the biggest wet fart of a reveal I've ever seen. We all knew Jon was Rhaegars kid, everybody fucking knew it. The only reason so many alternate theories exist is because it was so mind numbingly obvious.
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>>86976155
THE WHITE WALKERS ARE ANIMALS AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS
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>All these fucking mouth breathers who think Its the same actor as Viserys
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>>86979445
The Mad King was actually the one who made the Dornishmen participate. Elia and her children had been living on Dragonstone, and Aerys had them moved to King's Landing and basically threatened their lives if Doran Martell didn't send his brother Lewyn to "aid" their family. Lewyn died along with Rhaegar at the Trident.
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>>86976155
Rhaegar abandoned his wife and disinherited his children because he wanted to bang Lyanna. Meanwhile Lyanna is comfortable with her family risking their lives and thousands of people dying so she can bang Rhaegar. They're really just the most selfish pieces of shit ever.
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>>86980282
Is Jon Aegon Snow Sand Targaryen a conqueror or a defender?
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>>86976155
The funny thing is that know we now that Kons father was horrible murdered by Danu 's fiancĆØ with her approovol and Danu is his fucking aunt as well he fuclong fucked last night

How confusing is that?
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that's literally the same haircut as viserys
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>>86978305
similar looking actor with a similar wig. not the same guy, my dude
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>>86980165
thanks anon
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>>86979183
Rhaegar was supposed to be like super hot.

And a good fighter, so not a skelly lanket
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>>86976155
I don't get this, if they were married why did the Rebellion even start?

Let's say Robert knew about it and decided to raise his bannermen, he felt cucked by the only woman he loved and decided to lie saying that Rhaegar was a rapist and a murderer. Why did the Stark go to King's landing demanding anything? Did they all just know about the truth and decided to take arms against Aerys anyways because he was a cunt? Why didn't Rhaegar explain the situation to the people?

I don't understand.
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>mfw all these showfags who are too retarded to understand Dany had two brothers

why do you people even watch it if you can't keep your eyes open for more than a second
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>>86989644
>why did the Rebellion even start
because Aerys was an actual madman
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>>86989641
Drogo was dwarf ing him in The show They really misscasted him They also killed him off like a little bitch
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Maybe Rhae and Elia's children were actually the Madking&Elia's. thats why he got the fucking issue with name Aegon
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>>86980425
>>86980122
>>86976256
It's like you never had great sex in your lives.
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>all these face blind niggas
get some fucking glasses.
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>>86989644
>Did they all just know about the truth
No, nobody knew.
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>>86976256
It's bad writing. Every problem this show has, which consist of a shitload, can owe itself to bad writing
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>>86978706
stop being a meme pedant you know exactly what he fucking means
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>>86979776
so did all the targ men wear the same exact hairstyle?

honestly i think they should have gotten visery's actor and had him wear dany's wig or something
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The rebellion was still valid because the king was burning lords alive
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>>86989750
So what, Lyanna staid in the tower of joy for 9 months without saying jackshit to her family?
>>86989691
His reign was about to end because Rhaegar wanted him to abdicate, also the ones that started the rebellion were Stark and Baratheon, Robert getting pissed first and the Starks going second after Aerys demanding answers. This all could've been avoided if Lyanna had sent a Raven saying that she was fine and in love with Rhaegar. It would've shamed her family, it would've pissed Dorne to the point of maybe starting a little rebellion themselves, but this whole shitshow could've been avoided.
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>>86980440
>casuals
you mean 95% of the fanbase?

i wonder how many people think viserys and rhaegar are actually the same person. i mean these stupid fucks can't see that khaleesi is a title and not her name.
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>>86979629
You guys ate that shit up in TWBB.
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Why did Bran think Jon was a Sand when he heard Lyanna name him Aegon Targaryen on her deathbed?
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>>86983744
>destined to become a fat alcoholic mess.
literally her fault this happened, though
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>>86976256
Rhaegar comfirmed a nigger
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>>86976303
I really want to see the prequel happen just for this fight.
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>>86989974
Viserys is The bald guy right? Hes a secret targ?
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>>86990013
Doesnt matter what she wanted to name him, he legally wouldn't be a Targ, so Bran probably just assumed it.
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>>86989971
>Robert getting pissed first and the Starks going second after Aerys demanding answers
Robert was pissed at Rhaegar but he didn't raise banners until Brandon and Rickard were killed
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>>86990207
So I guess that if Lyanna had sent word it would've been too late because Brandon was a hothead right? I'm trying my hardest to not drop the show, I need something to make sense here.
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>>86989504
About as confusing as trying to understand your post
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Aerys was a crazy old cunt, he coulda have fucked Elia. They love incest
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>>86990247
I guess the only thing to save it is that the timing was off. Rhaegar and Lyanna elope from the tourney. Brandon hears about it a few days later and goes straight to KL.
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>>86990247
>>86990540
Also, if Lyanna did send a letter I doubt Brandon would believe it.. he would probably still go to KL and get himself killed
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>>86978305
Not actually the same actor at all. Same hairdo, though.
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>>86979473
GRRM thought he wrote a romantic and tragic piece. Turns out when you give it some thought, it's retarded.
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>>86989504
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>>86979473
>>86990960
I am curious to see if/how he's going to make it all make sense in the books. Does seem like they could've solved a lot of problems just by telling people what they were doing, and the characters aren't supposed to be retarded. Rhaegar's supposed to be some kind of genius poet-warrior ubermensch actually
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>>86976256
Love is the death of duty.
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>>86979473
>>86979473
Does no one else not realize that in feudal society a noble woman had no choice in who she marries? A match is chosen for her by the head of the family, usually for political gain.
No one would accept it and would have had the right to be even more pissed off because Rickard Stark had already promised her to Robert.
It's a massive slap in the face to the Starks to marry into their house without the head of the house's consent. Hell, even minor cousins might need the head's blessing to get married, because any fruit of the union would have a claim (however small) to the family title.
What Rhaegar did was wrong, even with the truth.
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>>86976155
They tried retconning him into being a sympathetic character after he was a massive cunt eye in Essos. I haven't read the books but didn't he rape her multiple times?
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>>86991468
>It's a massive slap in the face to the Starks to marry into their house without the head of the house's consent

The Starks are literally descended from a bastard born when a wildling impregnated Brandon the Daughterless's virgin daughter, they have no honor really
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how the fuck he died to molted steel pot but her sister can survive fire?
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>>86978305
>>86991511
Ahhh fuck, disregard that post, i'm an idiot. Why the hell would they use the same actor?
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>>86991517
I don't get the point you are trying to make.
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>>86989898

Maybe Viserys wore it like that to honor/want to be like his brother? Its a what came first-question
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>>86991646
Or maybe they just reused the wig
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>>86991731

>GoT
>Highest budget ever for a series
>attention to detail is crazy high
>LUL GUISE LETS JUST PICK SOME OLD WIG FROM THE BACK

Whatever floats your boat faggot
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>>86991799
>attention to detail is crazy high
Shit dude, what show are you watching?
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>>86980440
This, gods help me ned
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>>86991848

I know youre just trolling, so Im out.
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>Nerds thinking normies even remember who the Martells are

Lmao
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>>86989722
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>>86991890
>>86991799
>attention for detail
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Does someone have an updated family tree for the Targs? I am a visual learner.
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>>86992302
That episode was incredibly poorly directed
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>>86992385
Updated from what? We didn't learn anything new
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>>86976155
Targs were a mistake

Also Lyanna is a fucking whore cunt. She gets whisked away and falls in love with her captor's dragon cock. Just like my NTR doujins.
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>>86980076
White people all look the same.
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>>86992385
oh, hey reddit!
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>>86976155
I wish I could fuck Viserys
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>>86991799
>https://www.indy100.com/article/game-thrones-capes-jon-snow-ikea-rugs-cheap-costume-design-awards-michele-clapton-7880436
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Is this from Star Wars?
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They're so cheap they just reused the same fucking wig?
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>>86981197
>Be Ragger
>marry girl
>have babies
>get marriage anulled so i dont have to pay child support
>rinse and repeat
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>>86976303
we just have to bring BOBBYPOSTING to reddit and they'll do it
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>>86976303
Gods he was strong then.
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>>86976155
They make a good casting choice. He looks very similar to Viserys.
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>>86991370
>implying anyone goes to fucking war because there's some literal squabble beetween noble persons.

It's well estabilished in GoT universe as well as irl that wars are power play a lot more complicated than that.
That's why Robb Stark couldnt trade Jaimie for his sisters, that's why Jon couldnt bent the knee to Daenerys at first.

It was only a matter of time before someone rose against the Mad King.
Lyanna kidnapping was just the casus belly
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>>86979735
well no he did still have two sons called Aegon. He only had one son called Aegon Targaryen
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>>86997257
Why didn't he take King's Landing?
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why did he name both of his sons aegon
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>>86989722
great argument

remember when 4chan never mentioned normie bullshit
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>>86976155
Is there a reason this guy looks EXACTLY like Daenerys' brother? It's the same guy right? What the fuck?
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>>86998297

Rhaegar wounded him pretty badly

Contrary to baratheonfag belief, the fight wasn't entirely one sided
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>>86976155

>D&D are so fucking cheap they literally re-used Viserys' wig for Rhaegar

He's supposed to have long beautiful hair
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>>86998592
and who is the third aegon that will arrive with the golden company? how many women did he marry? will samwell go back to the library to find out?
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>>86976155
wtf 2viserys
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>>86976155
How do you go from Chris Hemsworth to an even ugleir version of Viserys?
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>>86999639

Is this image even canon?
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Couldn't they have at least styled Visery's wig differently?
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Danny is Jon's aunt.
Jon's father is Danny's brother
https://www.bustle.com/p/how-the-targaryen-family-tree-connects-jon-daenerys-makes-game-of-thrones-fans-uncomfortable-78563
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>>86999498
There is no third Aegon. In the books, the first son named Aegon was switched and shipped to Essos where he's now preparing an army to take back Westeros.

The show hasn't given any hint that this Aegon survived. Instead, we're lead to believe that the Mountain killed him.

I don't know why the show had Jon receive the same name as his older half brother.
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>>86999713
Yes, it's in World of Ice and Fire made by GRRM. It's as canon as it get's
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>>86999784
Nah, in the books Aegon got smashed by the mountain too. The essos faggot is a pretender. Maybe he arrives with the golden company and get smashed by the mountain. Pottery Dabid.
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>>86999784
>I don't know why
because if they went for jaehaerys normies wouldn't understand it
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>faggot husband runs away with another woman and abandons you and your children
>annuls your marriage in secret
>forced to watch your kids being smashed to bits by the Mountain
>get raped and killed
She deserved better bros.
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>>87000042
Lyanna is the biggest definition of a slut you'd ever see
>But Neeeeeeeddd, Robert has slept with many women
>Oh Rhaeger, you're so sexy and fine, doesn't matter if you cheateed on your wife and left her and her two kids alone in King's Landing without ever telling her.

And people think GRRM is a bluepilled cuck...
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>>86976256
Starks are dumb about love...Robb already show us that
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Wouldn't it be a better plot point if Rhaegar was rapidly descending into Targ madness, was obsessed with the Prince that was Promised prophecy, and that Lyanna was the one to bear him, so he force married her and raped her?
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>>86976155
Thats what I kept telling you guys! Rhaegar is the second worst person on the continent, next to the nights king. He might be the lesser of two evils, but he is still evil. Evey bad thing that happened in the show, can be traced back to Rhaegar and his dumb ideas.
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>>86999784

How did you miss the part where the real Aegon died, and Illyrio is passing off his own son as a Targaryen?
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>>86979263
Wow its like the reason of most conflicts its because of peoples bad decisions!

You people try to hard
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So Bran could have told anyone Jon was a Targ at any time, but he chose that moment to tell Sam.
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>>86989722
It's not unique to one person.

I could see it if Lyanna was a virgin and Rhaegar had bad sex with Elia, and then Lyanna fucking blew his mind though I guess.
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>>86992302
that filename kills me every time
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>>87000042
>Princess Elia was a good woman, Your Grace. She was kind and clever, with a gentle heart and a sweet wit. I know the prince was very fond of her.
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>>86976155
I feel like there is more to it.
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>>86976155
Rhaegar is supposed to be hot..... What is this caveman doing on my television screen?
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>>87000193
It would make more sense.

I think at first glance it is more interesting that she was willing, but what we've been told about starks and lyanna it doesn't really make sense.
Not Rhaegar either to be honest.
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>>86976256
There has got to be more to it.
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>>86990013
He'd never heard her whisper that before.

He knew that he was a bastard, and bastards born in Dorne are Sand.

He'd seen the vision before, so knew Jon was a bastard. And the Sand not Snow was just le writing.

Then once he heard her say it he knew for certain.
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What I never understood is why some retarded book readers kept clinging to the whole "Rhaegar is a good guy he didnt do nuffin, everyone thinks he's bad but he actually loved Lyanna and didn't rape her".

Even with that being true, he's still a faggot piece of shit for abandoning his wife and children and plunging the realm into war for a shit-tier prophecy. Just because it was "tru luv <33" invalidates all the retarded shit he did?
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>>87000042
>>annuls your marriage in secret
I still dont get it. HOW THE FUCK DID RHAEGAR ANNUL A FUCKING CONSUMATED MARRIAGE, WHEN HE ALREADY HAD 2 CHILDREN?!?
There is little to no divorce in westeros. People more important than Rhaegar have asked for a divorce and been turned down. A consumated marriage with 2 children, between two big houses is something that cant be broken off, no matter how hard they try. This is some shit writing and one of the many reasons I was against R+L=J from day 1.
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The Mad King burning the Starks alive is what started the rebellion. The Lyanna thing just got Robert assblasted and forced the Starks to go south to try to talk things out.
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>>86979776
Yeah but a lot of showfags are going to be confused. You know they will.
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In Ned's generation of Starks, there were three, and Ned was the only one who wasn't a total piece of shit. Seems like the North indirectly benefited from all the chaos.
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>>86980076
I think they really fucked up, viserys looks nothing like the guy on the right
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>>87000822
What was wrong with Brandon? Sure he was a hothead, but he wasn't a bad guy. Lyanna is the only true cunt from that generation.
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>>86976155
>Abandoned his wife, leaving her to end up raped and murdered as a result of your actions
>Get married to another woman in his former wife's home country
>Wants his future new son to be named the same thing as his former wife's child
What a standup guy!
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>>87000896

Brandon was a chad and thus he deserved what he got

>Thinking he could go right up to Aerys and ask where Rhaegar was so he could kill him

Total dumbass brochad move
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>>87000822
Yooo, you talking shit about uncle Benjen 'THEREISNOTIME' Stark?
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>>87000654
>Rhaegar steals Lyanna away.
>Starks go to the one place where Rhaegar is known to be and demand their own back.
>Wrong person answers the door, and they get burned alive.
Hurr Durr, the mad king was just burning starks alive, Lyanna and Rhaegar had nothing to do with it.
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>>86977803
Yes fucking retard, this was known since s6.
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I forgot, how old is Lyanna supposed to be in the books? When she goes with Rhaegar.

If she's a retarded 12 year old or something that could be understandable, but in the show she's a fucking grown ass woman who should know better.
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>>87000896
>What was wrong with Brandon?

Maimed Littlefinger. Dude was a psycho. Also, Catelyn was a bitch for loving him.
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The whole scene was really hamfisted with the way Bran giving the whole exposition and Sam teleporting to Winterfell to fill in the missing details.
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>>87001049
Shut up Littlefinger, you're dead.
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>>87001049
Didn't he just fuck him up when LF challenged him? How did he maim him?
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>>87000972

No he flat out said he was going to kill Rhaegar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1zsvHusfPQ&

y'all niggas need to watch this to refresh yourselves

There are dumbasses on both sides
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>>86979834

Bran's superpower is to watch rapes, so I have to think at the very least Lyanna was underaged.
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>>87000962
he was fucking based
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>>87000651

A lot European nobles did this in the middle ages.

If a woman became infertile, or could no longer produce children, she could be put aside in favor of a new wife even if she already had children with her husband.
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>>86979428
WE UK NOW
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So did Jon fuck his aunt? That's kinda hot.
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>>86977051
>Euron kills Jon next season, along with himself
Yep confirmed
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Aerys wasn't totally off-base in killing Ned's father and brother.

In the last couple of books and a World of Ice & Fire it is heavily implied that Rickard Stark was up to something. He was trying to unite the great houses through marriage, something that had not previously been done. For instance, Northerners usually married into the families of their bannermen, The Lords of the Riverlands did the same, so did The Vale, The Reach, etc.

Rickard Stark manages to arrange for his sons to foster with The Lord of the Vale, then arranged marriages between House Tully and House Arryn, House Baratheon and House Stark, and House Stark and House Tully.

The Targaryens were rightfully wary of the warden of the North building up military alliances and consolidating power via marriage contracts with the other kingdoms.

The Lannister/Stark hostility begins long before the rebellion, when Tywin chooses loyalty to the throne over a marriage alliance with the Starks, in hopes that his daughter may be able to marry into the royal family.

Not to mention, Brandon Stark was a total hothead. He starts shit at multiple tourneys prior to Lyanna's "kidnapping", and after he basically wanders into an audience with the king demanding Rhaegar's head. How do you think Aerys was supposed to react?

Ned is an unreliable narrator from the beginning. He is loyal to his house and to the North, and he never really tells the truth about his father or his brother.
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>>87001519
Nah its the infamous jihadi Muhammed al-Drogon who will do it
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>>86980440

tbf they shouldn't have given him the same fucking wig and hid his face for no reason
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>>86976155
Was that Dany's brother from season 1?
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>>87001519
If only, that would redeem everything from season 4 onwards and the normies would be BTFO
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>>87001771
Aerys was crazy yes, but it was heavily implied that he killed Rickard and his son because he was afraid they were trying to overthrow him, the same reason why he told Tywin to fuck off back to the Westerlands.
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>>87000866
>the guy on the right looks nothing like the guy on the right
I absolutely agree.
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>>87001196
Nothing would have happened, if Rhaegar didnt steal Lyanna away. No war, and no wars after that. And dont act so high and mighty. If your family member is stolen, and presumably raped, then you would also show up on the rapists doorstep, asking where the bastard is so you can kill him.
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>>87001389
We are not talking about europe. We are talking about in universe rules, and they say: NO DIVORCE.
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>>87002165
>and they say: NO DIVORCE.
no they say annul, it happened
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>>86976155
>hey there, remember that scene from last season that totally confirms jon's parentage? well, let's hit you over the head with a more detailed version and also have fucking bran narrate it for you goddamned beautiful morons
fuck this show's writing
how about jon telling theon
>wut R u still talkin 2 me 4?
fucking fantastic writing, bravo
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>WTF he looks just like viserys xD
It's called good casting you fucking retarded niggers
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So basically the relationship between Rhaegar and Lianna is the Song of Ice And Fire?
>Barristan Selmy: "Viserys never told you?"
>Daenerys Targaryen: "He told me Rhaegar was good at killing people."
>Barristan Selmy: "Rhaegar never liked killing. He loved singing."
Is this pottery?
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>>87001771
But why kill them in an elaborately sadistic way?
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>>87002333
>it happened
Yeah, in the piece of badly written fanfiction people call Game of thrones. It hasn't happened in A song of ice and fire.
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>>87002644
Doesn't matter.
There's no in universe rule that you're refering to. Just your headcanon.

People can either go for real life counterparts and what is realistic to determine what is plausible, or specifics from the works.
Either way annulment is fine.
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Blond hair + brown hair = black hair

Hmm
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>>86989275
He defends Westeros.

He conquers his aunt.
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>>87001836
no you fucking moron, this was rhaegar who was killed in roberts rebellion
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>>87001771
Ned probably never understood his father's motives in the first place.
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>>86976155
>let's make rhaegar, the last dragon, look exactly like that effeminate viserys, whom we villainized early on
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>>87002752
>Either way annulment is fine.
Read a fucking book man. annulment is one of the big no-no's in the ASOIAF canon. It's up there with kin slaying and incest.
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>>86989644
Rhaegar and Lyanna were both dumbasses who didn't fill in anyone about their plan. People will say that "they were doing it for the love they had for each other" or some shit but in the end, it got Rickard and Brandon Stark killed culminating in a war that ended the Targaryens.
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>>87004175
All of this could have been avoided, if Lyanna sent a letter saying something like: ''Fuck Robert, im gona run off with Rhaegar to some far off land''. There you go. Starks have no reason to go to KL and die. It wouldn't look like kidnaping/rape and only downside would be that Robert would go on a solo mission to kick Rhaegars ribs in. But no army would follow him because he got cucked. There you go. No roberts rebellion, No greyjoy rebellion, No war of 5 kings and the wars after that. When the white walkers come, Rhaegar will also come out of hiding, take over house targaryen and his magic baby would fullfil the prophecy. Or something like that.
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>>86978895
Is this b8?

It's a different brother and actor who looks the same due to Dabid can't into camera angles
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>>86977713

it's not the same actor but a look alike
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>>86979380
>>86979815
It's either b8 or the camera angle and lighting (plus the fucking recycled Viserys wig) or people are just face blind.

My uncle was convinced that decoy Amidala in The Phantom Menace was actually Natalie Portman and not Kiera Knightly... and he's not retarded... just not very good at facial recognition
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>>86989644
The only redeeming thought here is that the rebellion was going to happen anyway and making their child public would just endanger it ...

Quite simply, they didn't think Roberts rebellion was their fault....
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>>86989702
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>87000274
He wanted Jon to be first to know... but Jon fucked off to Dragonstone .. he knows through warg powers that Sam is a fellow spergelord he could trust...so he needed to get it off his chest and clear the cache so he could open up space to download other rape / incest vids
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>>87000527
>He knew that he was a bastard, and bastards born in Dorne are Sand.

Fucking DABID. Why is his name Jon Snow to begin with then? It's clear that Ned's cover story involved a southern girl. So if the rules were that it comes down to where you were physically born, Snow would be one of the last possibilities.
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>>87002123
But that was more of a cassus belli than anything. Aerys would have thought of some other reason to attack House Stark . Or Tully or Baratheon or Arryn.
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>>87006963
The worst that would have happened would have been Tywin vs Aerys. And that is like a conflict between 3 or so big houses, not all of them. It's pointless to get into the what if's. The fact is that Rhaegar and Lyanna done goofed, and a lot of people died in a war that they started.
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I didnĀ“t give a crap about them but
>Roberts rebellion was based on a lie
with the fitting music theme was great
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>>87006427
Much thanks for that laugh
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>>86989768
This is what happened in the books too.
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Viserys was hotter.
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>>87006427
I'm glad being a greenseer also makes you autistic. Otherwise Bran would realize how his a big fucking creep, now.
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>>86976155
Not to mention the rampant incest.
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>>87001836
why does he look so old here?
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>>86979499
This desu
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>>87008072
incest is so in vogue these days.
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>>86979027
Shut the fuck up, /pol/yp.
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>>86977051
That fits Season 8 spoilers.
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>>87009168
what are they ?
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>>86976155
the point is for you to realize that the people that you thought were justified all along were merely assholes as well.
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>>87000042
>had a pure qt dornish wife
>commonfolk treated him like the messiah
>women all around Westeros wanted his inbred dick
>prettiest motherfucker on the planet
All of that wasn't enough for him. He needed to have some northern slut too because muh prophecy.
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>>87000042
>shitbag of husband & family use yours in the war

It wasn't just Aerys, either.

Also:

>drop wife that gave you 2 healthy children bc she can't anymore
>replace her with a woman that shits just one then die like a bitch
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>>87009774
Truly the worst character in the series. Fucking Targs deserve to be gassed.
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Beta thing is a meme and you're all playing yourself. While Bobby B types run around tripping over thrones and shit a smooth nigga like Rhaegar slips in and cucks him up behind the scenes, he Holden Caufield'd her, "oh yeah I write poems and play the harp and shit wassup," don't forget that females are impressionable as shit, act like Bobby B if you wanna pick up dudes though (ya fag)

Bobby B played himself
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why did they make him so fucking ugly
looks just like his little shit brother
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