I SAW YOU IN MY DREAMS, YOU'RE IN CARCOSA NOW, WITH ME.

>>86902634

His voice was fucking amazing.

Me and my dad have a bet, i say Russel was shooting 'at god' like out of anger, he says there were more gunmen hiding in the woods?

>>86903125
God was the gunman hiding in the woods.

>>86903125
he just had really sticky fingers and tried not to harm anyone because he couldn't let go

>>86902634
what was his name again?

>>86902634
The mechanic girl had black star tattoos btw

>>86902634
Caspere knew this

>>86903425
who?

>>86903422
Carl Costa

>>86903506
One of the people the detectives talk too, asking about someones whereabouts.

TIME IS A FLAT CIRCLE

THE FLESH OF FALLEN ANGELS

>>86903589
do you remember the episode? is this when they first see the green house, going around the neighborhood in that montage? i didn't spot this.

>>86902634
LA DOOOOO

>>86903590
your mom is a flat circle as well

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>you now remember how fucking scary this was

>>86903722
yea... that was kinda the high point honestly, a promise it couldnt and didnt keep

>>86903722
i thought he's gonna be the villain

>>86903125
He was actually shooting himself. He knew time was a flat circle so eventually they would loop back and hit him.

>>86903722

>dat /hype/ on /tv/ after that cliffhanger, waiting for the next episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOGoX1B6_2k

>>86903639
It's been years. I think it might have been either leading up to Rust shooting at casper, or leading up to carcosa.

Fucking good series, lets hope season 3 isn't as much of a let down as 2 was.

>>86903639
Now that I think about it... it might have been the woman working at that shrimp cooking place or whatever it was.

>>86902634
He was a big guy

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>>86903942
>>86903982
oh yeah, dora's friend

I thought rust was just gonna be an edgy prick, but he ended up being one of my favourite tv characters of all time

>>86902634
Why was the last episode so different, tonally, from the rest of the season?
I remember reading an explanation, something fishy happened, can't remember what precisely. Does anyone have a link?

>>86903900
Damn, was this the originall? I remember specifically that this scene, when I saw it, there being a much closer shot of reggie coming up over the ridge, and it his movements were slower, more unnatural, and the music was much louder and daunting. The scene was like a really well done jump scare, but not.

>>86903083
Yep it was.

>>86904358
He was extremely edgy. Watch it again, his "coolness" hasn't aged well.

>>86904358
The ending scene of s1 is one of the best endings in TV

>>86904517
Come on, it was shit, a completely unjustified 180 on the part of rust.

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>There were people on /tv/ who actually believed the show was going to introduce supernatural elements in the final episode

>>86904504
he still cared and had morals
besides, he had a pretty good reason to be edgy

>>86904598
Come on, the edgy atheist/nihilist thing is so overplayed.

>>86904590

I started watching it because of all the articles and fa/tv/irgins screaming 'LOVECRAFTIAN'!

I wasn't disappointed, it was a good show, just dunno where this mass hysteria came from.

>>86904660
perhaps
doesn't mean it wasn't played right in this series

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>>86902634
How exactly did Reggie fit into the cult? They were all supposedly part of the extended "Tuttle clan" founded by Sam the virgin rapist, but were they all working together? Errol Childress doing his own thing implies that some of the cult members worshipped on their own, ie separate from the cult rituals participated in by the whole clan as shown in the video Rust got from the Reverend Billy Lee. Was it like a decentralized ring of evil, where all the offspring worshipped separately after Sam died, or were Reggie and Dewall keeping the kids for another ritual?

>>86904735
There were lots of people who took every hint pizza dropped about supernatural stuff and run with it between every single episode.
So it was like "THE NEXT EPISODE IS GOING TO BE THE ONE" every single time, up until the last episode

>>86904562
Not him, but I disagree. Hardly "one of the best endings in TV", but it was a good ending.

>>86904811

I think it was a case of the 'rich' cultists doing their thing, maybe very occasionally and doing it intelligently, hard to trace etc. And there were the copycat bumpkins who really went nuts with it, probably believed in it a little too hard.

Essentially a hardcore fundamentalist sect made up of inbred loonies.

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and like a lot of dreams...

there's a monster at the end of it

>>86904878
>I SAW THE LIGHT
Dude, really?
Let rust die, that's a nice finale.

>>86903722
>And just like all dreams there's a monster at the end of it

finale of the show was lame and boring, overall 9/10 season though, greatest piece of TV

The tracking shot in the ghetto at the end of episode 4 is one of my favorite pieces of television ever. I fucking love tracking shots. The one in Goodfellas is great too.

>>86905346
You must have loved birdman.

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>>86903763
>>86903722
>wah, some dipshit in a gas mask and his whitey tighties didn't live up to my nancy boy dreams

>>86902634
What did he mean by this?

>>86904952
Caspere knew this.

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>Reggie Ledoux did this!?

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>>86904504
Put the skinny jeans back and take the i voted for hillary bumper sticker off your car and maybe someone will take your opinions seriously.

>>86903722
i vowed this would be the last time i would feel afraid

>>86904660
>the atheist/nihilist thing is so over played
That was the entire point of the fucking character you nonce, has transformation in the final episode was the culmination of it.

>>86905469
Reggie MOTHER FUCKING Ledoux!?!

>>86905471
What? I didn't vote for hillary. I'm not even american.

>>86905531
transformation=I saw the light, jeebus save me?
That's shitty writing

>>86905346
>"I love tracking shots, Goodfellas, True Detective, the list could go on"

>>86905638
I mentioned those two because they're the shows/movies I've watched most recently. I'm not a goddamn film expert. I see something and if I like it I talk about it.

>>86905618
>i saw the light jeebus save me
Did... did you even watch this show?

>>86905674
>I see something and if I like it I talk about it.

you must not watch much

>>86905693
That's basically what happened, come on. He had a near death experience where he saw magical love rfom another dimension.

>>86903722

Reggie's actor should've played Childress.

>>86903722
young roadhog before the omnic shit

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mfw we'll never get a season 3 with a spooky setting and the true two detectives

>is time a flat circle?

>>86903722
Too bad the bad guy at the end was some inbreed hillbilly that wasn't scary at all.

They really dropped the ball with the ending.

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>>86907374
time is a fat circle

>>86903722
No, it fucking wasn't.

>>86905411

VIET SHIT FUCK YOU UP CUNT

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>>86904811

>>86907534
bugs... stahb et

>>86907374
>I mean, how many times have we had this thread, anon? Well, who knows? When you can't remember your posts, you can't change your posts, and that is the terrible and the secret fate of all shitposting. You're trapped... like a ride that never ends.

>>86905471
Are you fucking retarded? Only an alt right Trump voter type would think Rust is edgy. He's atheist for fucks sake. You think a liberal would dislike him? I swear you fucking morons don't even know what you believe in.

>>86903722
Was this taken in Charlottesville?

>>86907534
Stop pushing your dumb v4c meme moonman

All I want is to be insane and befriend Death and the Devil

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>green ears
>"w-what about that house painted green?"

>>86908697
>10/10
>Greatest series I've ever seen
>Don't forget about le tracking shot
I still remember people defending that scooby-doo bullshit episode where the black detectives drive away after asking lawn mower man for info, he cartoonishly reveals himself as the bad guy while the camera pans up.

This was a procedural with better acting, that completely falls apart halfway through. Calm down you fucking nerds.

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>>86904814

It was Lovecraftian in the way that's way preferable to the Lovecraftian style shown in things like The Void or In the Mouth of Madness. Lovecraftian stuff is always worse when it gets over the top crazy and starts showing shoggoths and tentacles in things like that. Part of the point of Lovecraft is that there's the human element on the surface in the form of cultists and the like with the supernatural/cosmic horror stuff just beneath the surface, which I think they did well with the references to the Yellow King and the like. If they had shown more supernatural stuff than the thing Rust saw it would have cheapened it.

>>86908697
This. What the FUCK did they mean by this.

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>>86909164
I agree. It had just the right amount of Lovecraftian creepyness and subtle ambiguous supernatural moments without going over the top.

>>86904735
Because of the references to Carcosa, the Yellow King, satanic rituals and cults. Also the spaghetti man with green ears. It's not explicitly Lovecraftian but it was enough to suggest something weirder going on underneath the surface, it was still pretty stupid and it was mostly /v/edditor who were expecting Rust to fight Cthulu as the final boss.

>>86909508
It's as explicitly Lovecraftian as you can get without showing amphibious monsters.

This is Lovecraftian horror.
Existential dread.
Grandiose nihilism.
Isolated hillbillies living near bodies of water that engage in magical rites and kidnap people.

>>86909657
I know it is Lovecraftian, season 2 is too for that matter. It's just not about space monsters but the themes are the same. But /v/edditors actually wanted and expected Rust to fight Cthulu at the end.

>>86909707
Season 2 is not very lovecraftian.

It's more detective noir-ish.
There's no impending sense of dread.
They know to some extent the nature and motivations of the villains.

>>86909776
there is an impendign sense of dread because in both seasons, while the detectives are investigating a particular case they discover a much bigger and scarier thing going on, involving the elite and cults and secret societies, they never know how far it goes, and their efforts are utlimately in vain because it's a system that is indifferent of them. There are ultimately no answers, no resolution, no victory from the heroes. It's the basic premise of cosmic horror without the cosmic aspect. The Lovecraftian influences are very palpable in both seasons, even if more so in the first one.

>>86902634
Guys will there ever be kino this good again? Ever since I watched it everything else seems shitty

>>86903125
He was fucking firing into the grass that way if anyone investigated and found casings and rounds in the area then their story would check out

>>86910313
Twin Peaks: The Return is the pinncacle of television.

>>86903722
I can't even put my finger on why exactly it was unsettling.

>>86907471
I bet youre the same kind of "person" who didnt like S2. You didnt even understand S1.

>>86910316

They know. They're just austistic, meme-spouting shitposters.

>>86911711
>They know.
you mean they realised it instantly as soon as it happened like every normal person right? liek it's not a "they know" as in "someone told them" but they actually understood it when they watched it right?

>>86902634
>evil kid molester man
>supposed to be a tall guy
>was a 6'1" king of manlets

>the big bad
>supposed to have facial scars
>barley at scratches on his face

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>>86911875

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What about Marty's girls? Were they molested as kids? Was Rust too rusty by the end of it to figure out all the connections staring him at the face?

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>>86913080

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>>86905411
>Cropping out Marky Mark's firearm

>>86903722
it wasn't
Christ, is /tv/ full of women?

>>86904814
Pizza wasn't dropping hints. That was the true author of everything good about the show, Cary Joji Fukunawa. Pizza prevented the correct resolution of the show with his jealousy and need to plagiarize from others.

>>86909164
t-t-t-t-t-t-that's not supernatural e-e-e-e-elements REEEEEEEE

Why wouldn't a father bathe his child?

>>86913119
Audrey was rapt

>>86904367
I also remembered it in a way that fits your description. That version was the kino edition.

>>86905638

Kek

Rec me a kino like this, preferably a movie but a show is fine too.

>>86918221
Marshland(2014)

>>86911654
Someone said what this scene was shot as an homage to Bigfoot videotape, maybe that's why.

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>>86902634
i can't stop noticing the stupid fucking towel ever since someone here pointed it out

it's ruined that episode for me

>>86918221
Prisoners

>>86913080
>>86913119
>>86913166
>>86913199
>>86913239
K I N O
I
N
O

>some guy painted his ears green 15 years ago lmao

>>86921300
What's the deal with Reggie's towel ?

>>86922653
>
mlp

>>86911779
i dunno ask them yourself

>>86909164
>>86909347
why could only rust see it though? I remember reading something about only people who kill kids can see and enter carcosa

>>86922653
its a pony from the modern my little pony show, not the one that existed in the 90s

>>86924293
I really hope you're joking.

Rust's time in the drug undercover department meant he consumed a lot of psychedelics that fucked his brain.

These are hallucinations, nothing supernatural. It's just linked visually to the supernatural shit that the cult members allude to.

B L A C K E D
S T A R S

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Season 2 had some high-tech kino scenes in between the bullshit.

Did we ever find out what Russ was shooting at?

>>86925196
I interpret it as supernatural. Also Errol Childress is truly connected to evil forces in my view. It's just the way I view the show.

FROM THE DUSTY MAY SUN

>>86925484
dont ever dust me or may sun again

>>86925431
You're retarded.

The only reason anyone thinks the show is supernatural is because the intro song is about transcendence through horror.

>>86925423
God.

>>86925423
at Dusty Maysa

>>86902634
What is that, neetchee? Shut the fuck up

>>86925554
IN THE DIRTY MASA

>>86905469
that was a great performance

The fact that he pronounced Nietzsche as Neechi rather than Nie-cha really triggered me

Whatever happened to the original idea for season 2? I remember that the first information they released about S2 was completely different from the series we got. Season 2 was supposed to be about occultism and conspiracies in US transportation systems, which sounds way more interesting than what we got.

>>86902634
Can't wait for season 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYkpUOB6nro

>>86905346
You should watch Alfred Hitchcock's Rope. I think it's all done in a single take with tracking shots

>>86910316
what? that's stupid

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Was she DP'ed by those boys?

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>>86926505
>Nie-cha
>Nie-cha

>>86926505
the fact you think it's pronounced 'nie cha' hurts my german brain

>>86910281
The last scene from s1 went from Lovecraft to Cormac Mcarthy.

>the light's winning.

>>86903942
Season 1 built a universe.

Season 2 wasn't part of Season 1's universe.

>>86905471
That photo isn't you. Fat fucks don't drink sodas that small

>>86908697
Honestly. What the fuck was Pizzalatte smoking towards the end?

>>86925423
Staging the cover story of the big shootout that never happened. Sprinkling some coke on them.

>I-it was just a redherring, you guys. I totally didn't write myself into a corner and had to come up with retarded shit about inbreed retards. Also, muh psychosphere that I totally didn't rip off from a more talented writer.
Carey Fuckanigga singlehandedly saved this show. Season 2 was proof that Pizzalatte is a fucking hack that can't write for shit. I hope HBO kicks him off the show and gets someone else to head it. Literally anyone would be better, that's how bad Pizzalatte is.

>>86928212

They should hire you to write season 3, you seem like you know a lot about writing tv shows.

>>86926505
A lot of Americans seem to think the final -e is pronounced -a and I don't know why. It's pronounced -eh. Nee-cheh. Same goes for Porsche.

>>86903125
yr both retarded

>>86913080
>>86913119
>>86913166
>>86913199
>>86913239
this was obviously a dropped plotline. Dunno why Pizzaman back out though.

>>86927397
probably spitroasted

>>86925379
this scene was fantastic

too bad it was a sloppy shitfest and that vince vaughn can't carry shit

>>86926505
who cares what foreigners think

>>86905674
>I'm not a goddamn film expert.
Don't worry, pretty sure that guy isn't one either.

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>that season 2 stab at fukunaga with the asshole asian director character

>>86913166
So the fire burning in the background of that tree in the season final is positive symbolism then?

>>86903590
STFU NIETZSCHE

>>86903722
>"ok last one episode before I go to sleep"

After the end:
>"ok I'll just watch a couple of prime Simpson episodes"

>>86903083
indeed

>>86903722
Why did he wear the mask?

>>86913119
This is some Hideaki Anno type shit right here.

>>86918221
prisoners

The final episode was so bad that it ruined the rest for me

I prefer season 2. The great plebfilter. Caspere knew this.

>>86930599

contrarian: the post

>>86930261
Wasn't he making drugs? Probably to shield him from the fumes akin to Breaking Bad

>>86930261
Cuz he's a big guy U U U U

>>86911654
the music the slow mo and the monologue

>>86925423
Us

>>86913080
>>86913119
>>86913166
This shit and the constant supernatural allusions via Rust's hallucinations are such a lazy bait and switch. There was obvious intent telegraphed to the viewers that signals either dropped intent/plot devices or unabashedly disingenuous writing by the creators.

Either way it makes the show much, much worse and less deserving of praise than people think. The ending as well is practically plagiarized line for line from some shitty comic book. It's also not logically consistent for Rust, the ultimate "skeptic" and cynic.

>>86927120
lmao that was a really well made video

FROM THE DUSTY MASON

>>86903621
MIRRORS ARE MORE FUN THAN TELEVISION

>>86928212
>implying season 1 was good

>>86927113
I remember that too.

>>86934577
>muh contrarianism

How the everflying fuck did pizzaman get away with the blantant plagiarism?, in any sane case this would be an auteurs sure death sentence, yet instead he got out scot-free, praised and given a bigger role, like how, its beyond me

>>86910316
that literally makes no sense lol

>>86935687
>plagiarism
You don't know what this word means, nothing is new under the Sun.
Everyone took inspiration, copied, added elements from the masters before them. And there's not a damn thing a little shit like you can do about it.

>>86935766
t. fag

>>86935687
who did he steal from?

>>86925196
It is supernatural because those visions led him to find clues

>>86935787
lmoa, no name fag literally on suicide watch after realizing he will never make anything of substance worth a dime

Man, True Detective really was something special

sad that at the time i wasn't here to discuss this kino with u guys ;(

>>86935766
>You don't know what this word means, nothing is new under the Sun.
yes, but theres a small but distinct difference between "adapting" ideas and copy pasting word for word you dolt

>>86935766
>>86936110
also im not the first person that replied to you

>>86936093
shit was on fire that time

>>86936093
nothing got /tv/ as hyped as TD episodes

>>86936110
And who are you to judge where the line is drawn? I say he made it his own, I say he wrote an incredible first season that left everyone hungry for more. He caught lightning in a bottle, he wasn't able to produce it since, but give credit where credit is due, don't be a typical jealous fag.

>>86936093
go away

>>86936093
the catalog was crazy on days with new TD episodes and crazy theories in between episodes, great time

>>86936304
cringe

>>86903722
and what a letdown it was he wasn't the main villain

TD s1 second half was piece of shit

>>86909164
KINO SHOT

>>86936344
what do you mean?

Reminder that the only reason this series was any good was because of Cary Fukunaga.

Pizzaman is hack.

>>86936271
How am i being jealous? this is just common sense criticism, also since you said it yourself
>Everyone took inspiration, copied, added elements from the masters before them
How am i the one to give credit where credit is due, when not even pizzaman with a single true word ever gave credit to the artists he took from? Infact he actively avoided such question for obvious reasons

>>86936492
based Kino Fukunaga

>>86936576
What are you saying, are you claiming he plagiarized some specific authors? Do you have any proof to back it up?

Or are you saying he should have talked more about his sources of inspiration? Which is ridiculous by the way, he doesn't owe you any explanation of his creative process.

>>86928212
Well Milch is co-writing, so get fucking pumped again (or not)

>>86936715
>What are you saying, are you claiming he plagiarized some specific authors? Do you have any proof to back it up?
Yes thats what our whole disscussion is based on
https://lovecraftzine com/2014/08/04/did-the-writer-of-true-detective-plagiarize-thomas-ligotti-and-others/
>Or are you saying he should have talked more about his sources of inspiration? Which is ridiculous by the way, he doesn't owe you any explanation of his creative process.
I never said that, im just refuting your point as to why you demand i should give "credit where credit is due" if neither does he.

>>86937294
Not that it makes it right, but this was probably the best thing ever to happen to Ligotti's writing career.

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>>86936344

>>86936492
Yea S2 really exposed Pizza, I hope they cut him out of S3 and just give it over to Funkynigger completely

>>86935802
Many of Rust's monolouges are lifted pretty much word for word from this one authors books, I can't remember the name now but I looked at a comparison once and they are basically identical.

>>86935687
I don't think it's a problem he used the authors work for Rust. The problem is that he didn't credit him, in fact he frequently shyed away from the issue in interviews, if he just came out and said "yes I used his work I think it's really great" everything would be fine but apparently his ego is too fragile for that.

>>86938737
It's Thomas Liggoti I just looked it up again that's who he stole from

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>>86938737

He also took stuff from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU2pDstIGwY