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Will any of these reach the popularity of LOTR or GoT?

>Magic the Gathering
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/fox-bring-magic-gathering-big-670529

>Dungeons & Dragons (Forgotten Realms)
http://collider.com/dungeons-and-dragons-movie-story/

>Mistborn
http://deadline.com/2017/01/dmg-f-scott-frazier-adapting-mistborn-the-final-empire-brandon-sanderson-1201895621/

>Stormlight Archive
https://www.tor.com/2016/10/27/brandon-sandersons-cosmere-universe-movie-rights-sold-to-dmg-entertainment/

>Kingkiller Chronicle
http://www.thewrap.com/lin-manuel-miranda-produce-feature-film-tv-series-kingkiller-chronicle/

>The Witcher
http://deadline.com/2017/05/netflix-to-produce-the-witcher-tv-series-1202095582/

>The Wheel of Time
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/wheel-of-time-tv-series-sony-1202390897/
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>>86875849
>comparing GoT to LotR
But no, none of them will
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>>86875849
>Magic the Gathering
No.

>Dungeons & Dragons (Forgotten Realms)
No.

>Mistborn
No.

>Stormlight Archive
FUCK no.

>Kingkiller Chronicle
FUCK no.

>The Witcher
Maybe, but doubtful.

>The Wheel of Time
No.
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>>86875849
wheel of time is teenage me's favorite book series, but i havent reread it, and probably never will, i dont want to lose the good memories i had of it. kingkiller chronicles was interesting, but you get autistic people from /lit/ who didnt read it but see and excerpt and post memes about it, so threads will already be ruined, and stormlight archive...brandon sanderson is either really really good, or really really boring, and SA suffers from multiple character chapters, and its either or with those chapters, there is no middle ground.
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Is any of this other than Wheel of Time not brain dead fanfic tier diarrhea?

Where's Once and Future King? Where's Elric? Where's Earthsea? Where's New Sun? Where's Black Company?
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I have a feeling they'll end up rushed garbage like Warcraft movie instead of early GoT or LOTR.

>this could be the next Game of Thrones we need something out by next year!!!
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There's already a kino D&D movie
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>>86875900
>popularity

read the damn post
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>inb4 someone tries to pretend stormlight archive isn't total rancid shit
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>>86875849
That image
>Gurm
>Writing
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>>86876125
>new sun
>not fanfic tier
new sun was terrible, i dont get how its so recommended.
>once and future king
after that last king arthur movie, good luck getting another green lit in the next 10 years
>black company
now you are speaking my language.
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>>86876125
>Black Company

Forgot to add that the the op

https://www.tor.com/2017/04/24/glen-cooks-the-black-company-series-coming-to-television-to-star-eliza-dushku/
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Witcher is the only one that might and that's because it's the only one that's going to get made.
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>>86876172
i liked the parts with the dude who was the prisoner on bridge duty. the rest was boring
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>>86875849
>Implying any fantasy series can beat Lord of the Rings.
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>>86876172
It'll make a good movie desu even if it is a shit book
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>>86876272
those were the only good parts, yes
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>>86876143
You honestly think people in 15 years will remember GoT the way we remember LotR now?
It's built 100% on hype and has 0 rewatch value
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Seeing how horrible Shannara was butchered I have little faith in adaptions.
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>>86876296
maybe, but you'd be re-writing a lot. it certainly wouldnt make a good show
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>>86876310
yeah, given that GoT is more popular than LoTR, yes it will

also there are 4 spin-offs coming, it will be relevant for a while whether you like it or not

>muh rewatch
not an argument
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I disliked Mistborn because of the unnecessary and overly detailed fight scenes that read like some teen's animu fanfic, but that would actually make good material for live action.
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>>86876406
>also there are 4 spin-offs coming
Quik rundown?
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>>86876502
http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/04/game-of-thrones-prequels-spinoffs/
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>>86876406
>GoT is more popular than LoTR
It's a passing fad. People will move onto newer distractions eventually when the series ends, but Lord of the Rings will always remain relevant.
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>>86876337
Not really. Half of the books are anime fight scenes and big DUN DUN DUN reveals with no real meat in between, perfect for a blockbuster movie
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>>86876406
>yeah, given that GoT is more popular than LoTR
top kek
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>>86875849
Tolkien looks like such a Jew
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>>86876565
girls on tinder don't watch LotR
guys on college football teams dont watch LotR

GoT already penetrated the cultural zeitgeist further than LotR and attracted even ultimate normies. people don't just "forget" something they've invested 8 seasons in. did they forget LOST (another show that got progressively shittier)?
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>>86876612
cutting and compressing = rewriting
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>>86875849
The Witcher has potential but will be ruined by diversity casting.
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>>86876406
>>86876663
It's popular now because they went for the mass appeal strategy rather than making a good show that will hold up in the future
You talk about attracting normies as though that's a good thing, there is no audience less likely to forget about their 'favorite' show within a week after it's over.
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>>86876663
Everyone watched lord of the rings you underage faggot
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i love mtg but any movie about it would be a hilariously irredeemable pile of trash. wizards is good at the card game but literally nothing else. they can't even put a working online client together.
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>>86876719
Should say more likely, I really should read what I type before I send it
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>>86876719
>You talk about attracting normies as though that's a good thing
you made this up

>mass appeal strategy
once again: LOST, a show even this board still talks about, which had even worse asspulls and bullshit
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>>86876743
and fell asleep 30 minutes into it
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>>86876820
Oh I'm being b8ed nvm
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>>86876805
I've never heard a soul talk about LOST since the series ended. GoT and ASoIaF will suffer the same fate.
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>>86875849
Magic and Dungeons are extremely popular and important but probably won't do well outside their traditional mediums.

The Witcher is really great though. If given the time and care that CD Projekt Red does it would be incredibly successful.
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>>86875849
>WILL any of the post Tolkien abortions make it on tv?
Sure just tune into syfy channle.
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>>86876891
>I've never heard a soul talk about LOST since the series ended

okay im being baited
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>>86876337
doesnt stormlight have way more magic than GOT the budget for a show would be too high and the books are like 1000 pages so good luck fitting that into a movie
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>>86876663
>he thinks LotR wasn't a cultural phenomenon that almost everyone saw

You have to be underage if you think it's not bigger than GoT ever was.
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>>86877006
just like avatar :^)
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How about the Gentleman Bastards or the Farseer Trilogy?
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I would really like a good live-action Witcher. It's a really fun universe and the characters are great.

The nature of Geralt's profession could make it a monster-of-the-week kind of show with several large overarching plots. Depending on the point in time for the story that could be Geralt's relationship with Yen, raising Ciri, the persecution of the Lodge, and a lot more.
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>>86877073
Avatar is a pretty good example actually, hugely popular movie that everyone saw, but nobody remembers. Much like GoT
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>>86877163
movie. 3 hour long movie. there's a difference here but i cant put my finger on it...
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>there are people on this earth who actually believe smut like GoT is on the same level as LotR
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>>86877246
see:
>>86876143
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>>86877207
The difference is that people would be more likely to rewatch a 3 hour movie than 70 hours of plotlines that go nowhere
Congrats your shit show will be less relevant in 2 years time than fucking Avatar, that's almost impressive
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>>86875849
>Mistborn
Can't compete for popularity with GoT because there will be no titties or sex, the author is Mormon and protective.
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>>86877315
you're just asshurt someone called out your autistic good vs. evil trilogy (which has NOTHING about taxes in it), admit it
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>>86875849

> Not having boromir fight Ned

What a fucking waste.
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>>86877417
>can't defend your shitty tv show
>resort to memes to make it look like you were just baiting the whole time
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>>86877508
it's just your opinion against mine at this point, there's nothing to refute
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>>86876141
Kino indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28snhq40C8o
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What's that one series about the wizard and his apprentice? A sword is involved at some point
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This could be amazing if done right
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>>86877854
Muira is almost as fucking lazy as GRRM. Could there be a connection?
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>>86877714
You talking about Wolfe's Wizard Knight duology?
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Tolkien is to creative literary genius what Martin is to hack pulp idiocy. They both so far surpass anyone else in their field that they will be remembered 1,000 years from now as a kind of yin and yang of fantasy, a Manichaen duality of speculative letters. For every sublime, luminous beauty that Tolkien has gifted the world, Martin has cursed us with a tedious, banal ugliness. It is unfair to compare the two directly on any one point, because Martin is in every way the anti-Tolkien, patently sterile, parasitical, and inferior, but so much so that he becomes a monument in his own right, and counterbalances Tolkien. Could one exist without the other? Tolkien obviously could. But it is only by the contrast that Martin offers that we can truly appreciate the full depths and heights of Tolkien. Our understanding of Tolkien would be incomplete if Martin had never set pen to page. It is through only the abject failure and futility of Martin that we can approach an apprehension of the true scope and scale of Tolkien's hitherto inconceivable greatness. Perhaps this is what Tolkien had in mind when he wrote about the Music of the Ainur. If Tolkien is a subcreator in the image of Eru, truly Martin is like unto Melkor. It is only reflected in the awfulness of the one that we can fully see the goodness of the other.
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>>86877898
except GRRM is a way better writer
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>>86877898
GRRM loves Idolmaster.
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>>86877927
Nah don't think so. I remember the cover being like a black frame with a red border on the inside
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>>86877972
autism
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>>86877982
>except GRRM is a way better writer
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never read any book in my life

LOTR is complete shit in comparison to GOT, it's like GOT for kids

is there any fantasy better than GOT?
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>>86875849
>Tolkien the chad, a lot of kids.
>Martin the fat manlet burger, no kids but have pets.
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>>86878074
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>>86878038
yes, even sunset found her squatting is decent and utilitarian prose for martin's style and as a description of diarrhea. it comes and it keeps coming.

martin blows miura the fuck away as a writer of plots though
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>>86878084
Calling GURM the "American Tolkien" is an insult to Tolkien.
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>>86878009
>>86877927
>>86877714
Sword of Truth
That's it
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>>86875849
Wheel of Time has potential for a GOAT adaptation if done correctly.
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>>86875849
I'll write the next epic fantasy series. Screencap.
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>>86875849
Gandalf could solo everyone in Westeros without evem taking his pipe out of his mouth
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>>86878390
nope. me.
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>>86875849
Drizzt Do'Urden tv series WHEN?
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>>86878585
Nah m8 if we're cracking the seal on Forgotten Realms content they've gotta go further back than the popular literal meme-tier character
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>>86875849
Dark Tower failed miserably so I wonder. Out of all those I can see Wheel of Time being close enough to a GoT clone to remain relevant.
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>>86876216
It's this faggot again. Still mad that he didn't understand Wolfe
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>>86878143
I read GRRM... but yeah, is so easy for him and Stephen King. Money and live just for writing.
Anyone who has read Tolkien's letters knows the problems he faced. War, family, a lot of work as a teacher and money problems.

GRRM meanwhile lives comfortably, without children and without real problems.He criticizes the work of others, eats a lot and lives in his isolated world.

>American Tolkien
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MAKE IT

SOMEBODY

OR I, KIM JONG UN, WILL DESTROY NIPPON
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>>86878546
I'm literally writing it now. Not memeing.
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>>86878634
but meme-tier shit is the only shit that gets made.
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>>86878719
>$1 billion dollars per episode
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>>86876125
wheel of time had that 6 book slog where nothing fucking happened
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>>86875849
a new challenger appears
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>>86878719
No budget in the world can pay for the amount of special effects this would need.
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>>86878735
but im the one who's not memeing
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>>86879261
>the writing style of every garbage-tier bargain bin fantasy novel ever

bravo
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>>86879350
what's wrong with it? action at the beginning instead of pages of purple prose? lemme see some of yours. i won't criticize it just to criticize it

i'm not proud of my opening anyway. i could post much better parts if you share yours
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>>86879261
I'm sure you didn't post that for feedback but I'll tell you something: go easy on the adverbs. They're a crutch for people who can't write well. Most can be removed. Delete one and see if the sentence still makes sense. 90%of the time, it will.
Also don't assume your readers know what you're talking about. When most people read the word "gauntlet" they think of a metal glove, not a cell or wherever your protagonist is.
You might have something good here but I can't give you any more advice without reading more.
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>>86876272
I really enjoyed the parts with Dalinar, im a sucker for honourable knights though, felt the same about ned when I first read a game of thrones although that didnt end so well
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>>86879461

>but the nature of its illumination was best purposed only for strained bedside reading

clean that up
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>>86879549
>MUH ADVERBS
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>>86879549
are there that many adverbs? i only see "reflexively", but i might be adverb-blind.

yeah, it says a "gauntlet of mantraps" so it's several traps by the door. an associate of the MC's broke into his house to canvas his room for the efficacy of his traps, but he came a day early to perform the requested job, so the MC didn't expect it. as the scene irises out it becomes more clear.
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>>86879683
how would you? i already compressed it once. remove "only"?
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>>86879812
ctf+f "ly" and you'll find a bunch. Like I said, remove them and see if the sentence still works. If you want your readers to understand where your MC is, you should tell them what you just told me. Otherwise they won't know. I thought he was in a prison cell.
>>86879841
>but the nature of its illumination was best purposed only for strained bedside reading
I would write
>but it gave out just enough light for bedside reading
Maybe not as fancy, but at least it rolls off the tongue better. Never use complicated words where simple ones will do.
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>>86880090
>ctf+f "ly" and you'll find a bunch

you're right

>If you want your readers to understand where your MC is, you should tell them what you just told me. Otherwise they won't know. I thought he was in a prison cell.

i do tell them that, in the 3rd and 4th paragraph. "hermitage" "one-room shack" "doorway" "installed there" "gauntlet of mantraps". i could beat on it again though i suppose.

>but it gave out just enough light for bedside reading
>Never use complicated words where simple ones will do.

disagree. using the right words is more important. i don't disagree it might be wordy though.
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>>86880313
>>86880090
also note that the page is literally cut at the point before he describes the room in detail, now that he's sitting and looking at it. so a more in-depth description came soon after
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>>86876063
im listening to wot after having read them as a teenager
the first few books are just as good as i remembered
on book 9 now, its pretty bad
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>>86880313
I guess you used enough words to describe where the character was, I just didn't know that he was the one who installed all those traps. That's why I thought he was being imprisoned.
>using the right words is more important
I can't stop you from using your own writing style, and you can do it however you want. I just have general advice. But if there is one rule to writing - and I mean one fundamental, unalterable rule - it's this: be clear. No matter what you're describing, no matter what's happening in your scene, you must be clear what is going on. The reader must understand what you're saying, because if they don't, you've lost them and you've failed at your job as a writer. The most effective way to do that is to use plain language. It's not the only way, but it's the easiest.
This advice goes beyond the sentence we're talking about, and can be applied to anything in writing, whether you're writing poetry or erotica or a technical manual.
Read E.B. White's "The Elements Of Style", and Stephen Kings' "On Writing" for more advice.
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>>86880411
i think we got a decent idea of what his tiny room is like, do you really need to go into more detail after this point? sometimes too much description or detail just becomes boring
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>>86876565
>responding to a hyperbole with a hyperbole
GoT will stay remembered, it is a landmark TV series like Friends or TV, same wave impact. I know of course /tv/ won't think that even though half of the threads on /tv/ sometimes are filled with game of thrones threads
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I mean Friends or MASH
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>>86876663
no it's not it's twitter bot/media popular where the truth is the average person doesn't even know about it.
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>>86876893
what's hilarious is M:TG makes more money in a year than HBO has gotten from GoT since it started
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Modern TV Fantasy will face a big problem in the coming years in that everyone in media seems to crave diversity but the audience only wants to see white people in their medieval European fantasies.
Any fantasy show that doesn't have all white leads is guaranteed to be teenybopper normie trash.
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>>86878715
jesus christ dude that was fucking terrifying godammit
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>>86880785
that's a stupid comparison, HBO doesn't get anything from GoT outside of DVD/Blu-Ray sales directly and magic just sells cardboard for lots of money

That doesn't mean M:TG is more popular than GoT
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>>86880633
yeah, because the 1st chapter is eminently important for what happens in the 3rd, when, after the MC returns to his room from dealing with a plumbing problem, he finds another invader in his room, this one hostile. little chekov's guns i set up in chapter 1 end up having dire importance there.

for example, a raised floorboard the MC's associate trips over in chapter 1 (which has relevance in that scene as well) ends up being a crawlspace below the floor for the antagonist in chapter 3.

you're right it can be boring if it doesn't matter though.

>>86880625
>Read E.B. White's "The Elements Of Style", and Stephen Kings' "On Writing" for more advice.

those are great recs. i've already read them but i guess the lessons about adverbs didn't sink in, heh. now i've pasted my stuff into hemingway app to help with adverbs, so thanks for pointing out where i was weak.
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>>86880843
What, anon?
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>>86879261
>kinesthetic hell
K Y S
Y
S
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>>86881068
you're right. i assume your critique is that it isn't a fantasy word and you're right. it's like using talking about "psychology" in a medieval world. like i said, i'm not proud of it yet.
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>>86879461
>action

what action? a paranoid character is entering a room. one line gets stretched out over three or four boring purple paragraphs.
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>>86879261
Jesus Christ, your writing is shit. Leave high fantasy kino to me.
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>>86881388
there's nothing purple there, it's just description. i don't think you know what purple is.

he starts knocking furniture aside and upturning his room just off the page to reveal the intruder.
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>>86881434
still, nobody's posted their own for comparison.
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>>86881532
>purple prose?
I have enough self-awareness not to do that.
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>>86881558
idk why I copied and pasted "purple prose".
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>>86881558
? like i said upthread, i wouldn't be overly critical just to be cynical
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>>86875849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68bXPgH9Dk

Reminder that Warhammer is older than most of these.
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>>86875849

A lot of people on here might not be old enough to remember but this exact shit happened after the Lord of the Rings. No, they won't be successful.
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>>86881603
you don't know 4chan, do you?
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>>86881674
can't force you to
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>>86881499
>"hermitage" turns into a "shack"
>awkward, self-important wording

no, it's not really purple but otherwise poor choices for prose.

enjoy having to self-publish a .99 cent "book."
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>>86876660

It's like the artist never even saw a picture of him.
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>>86881710
>said the author of Never Gonna Make It: The Book
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>>86881769
>>"hermitage" turns into a "shack"

cringe. please tell me how the set of all hermitages doesn't encompass a shack. you can't. make sure to actually look up the definition.

>awkward, self-important wording

nah. you want zadie smith or something:

>"Whilst he slipped in and out of consciousness, the position of the planets, the music of the spheres, the flap of a tiger-moth's diaphanous wings in Central Africa, and a whole bunch of other stuff that Makes Shit Happen had decided it was second-chance time for Archie."

pg 2, White Teeth. if something like that can get published and receive laudatory praise, i think i'm fine.
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>>86881882
not quitting my day job over it
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>>86881882
>discourage people from writing and making things.
I don't get this logic.
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>>86875849
>fantasy general
No. Make threads about specific things you fucking retard.

Non-retards feel free to join us in the GoT and Elric threads. Fuck you retard OP.
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>>86881884
a hermitage sounds more important than a one-room shack. yes, the literal definition is a home for a hermit, but I look up the definition of hermitage and get images about a russian museum and religious monasteries. surely you picked "hermitage" for a reason, but why not just call the place a shack or shed? why is the place a one-room shack after describing it as a nondescript "room" and then a sacred "hermitage" a few lines later? it's inconsistent already.

it's written like you've read a lot of the genre and are writing the way you think is good, which either way is a good start. but it's a rough draft and barely a page so I can only comment so much, you know :^)
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>>86882629
>a hermitage sounds more important than a one-room shack. yes, the literal definition is a home for a hermit, but I look up the definition of hermitage and get images about a russian museum and religious monasteries. surely you picked "hermitage" for a reason, but why not just call the place a shack or shed? why is the place a one-room shack after describing it as a nondescript "room" and then a sacred "hermitage" a few lines later? it's inconsistent already.

i called it a hermitage because it tells you he's a hermit and is technically correct.

>it's written like you've read a lot of the genre and are writing the way you think is good, which either way is a good start. but it's a rough draft and barely a page so I can only comment so much, you know :^)

i don't disagree
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>>86881532
>still, nobody's posted their own for comparison.
Alright, I'll post my own. I'm
>>86879549
>>86880090
>>86880625

Thoughts, feedback?
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>>86883181
sure, i'll take a crack at it, gimme a sec
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>>86883181
that line about memories and ink is awkward
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>>86876125
MtG barely has any story so maybe they could do something interesting with it from a pure art design perspective.

Magic has truly GOAT fantasy art with really strange Phyrexians horrors bugs beasts etc all able to be adapted.

The only way i could see it working would be like if they did a Firefly-like TV show following Gerard and his crew of misfits going through different tasks and places. No need for any grand arc until later. Like supernatural did.
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>>86882583
>Non-retards feel free to join us in the GoT
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>86883181
Better than OP's but it feels like some of your very short sentences "The soft murmur of a stream" could be added to the next sentence instead of breaking it with punctuation. It feels like you're trying to show that his thinking is quick, to the point, and matter of fact. But reading that feels awkward. Just a though. I'm going to post something of mine, since it's cool to see other writers styles.

This was just a quick start at something suspenseful.
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>>86883247
>>86883181
okay, here it is. tell me if you like it.
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>>86876893
>The Witcher is really great though
Jesus Christ fuck off already. Witcher is Pole garbage.
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>>86883181
Where as this part, feels like it doesn't roll and stumbles on itself. "The Warden stalked his prey through the long shadows of the trees, under the dappled spots of light stained green by the leaves that illuminated flying bugs and floating things in the air."

maybe it could use some additional punctuation, maybe you could take a cop out and say
light-stained. It's not great to do, but it's something.
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>>86875849
Producers are stupid fucking cunts. I hope they lose all their money. A goddamn Magic the Gathering movie? Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>86877090
gentlemen bastards could totally work as a tv series

farseer might be tough just because of all the shit fitz goes through
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Whatever it is, it will have to wait until GoT is off-air, and we're already looking at sequels/spinoffs. With all the hints they've given, they're basically confirmed to be doing The Hedge Knight series, which is already 3 books' worth, so at least 2 seasons.

Dungeon and Dragons will never be mainstream for its storytelling; people would just write fantasy stories anyway. So, no. It's too generic as it literally is the basis for most fantasy.

The Wheel of Time, while not impossible to pull off, is too high fantasy and too magicky, in-your-head. It already peaked in popularity, and while it does many things well, it doesn't do anything spectacularly.
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>>86876471
Mistborn1 was great, but holy shit are those fight sequences weird.

Didn't bother reading the others because of no Kel
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>>86883685
also dis
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>>86883685
>>86883181
>>86883840
hit me with that critique bro's I mostly write poetry
>>86883578
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>>86883930
aiight, it will be critical though. but fair.
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>>86883685
>>86883840
I'm the one who posted
>>86883181
Thanks for the advice, I'll consider it. I've been sending the first chapter to a few friends and family, and I' always open to more feedback.
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>>86882833
don't know where you're from but for me a hermitage makes me think of secluded monks on a hilltop, not necessarily just a hermit. I won't be the only person to think that. it's technically correct, but is it right?

>show, don't tell
establishing the space as a shack or even as a room was already a far stronger depiction of the character living alone as a paranoid hermit without explicitly saying so.

>>86883181
>capital Word
>run-on sentence in paragraph four

technically better written but if this was an introduction it's bland. I don't want to read past the page. I'd rather read the other anon's story even though it's got its own issues.
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>>86883840
Critique of a critique, you've made it overly wordy. There are ways to use stain for this metaphor, but why not use something instead of stain it just feels wrong. I get what he wants to say here, but there's got to be a better way. "The stories, memories, of his youth? Only a burden to carry." it doesn't jive with the first writers overall style. More like a narration, but that's just how I might do it if I had to do a full rewrite.
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>>86883578
This seems more like poetry than prose. It's so weird it's hard to critique. It might be weird in a good way, though.
It's interesting, and it grabs my attention, and that's all an author can hope for in the first page. It gets a pass from me.
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>>86884074
anon should just remove that line and the final paragraph "backstory."
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>>86884081
Thank you! That's pretty much what I was going for, I mostly write poetry so you aren't wrong. I was just trying to describe a feeling with the whole piece. I saw this picture and I was trying to get across the feeling.
>>86884116
I agree with this. Wholeheartedly.
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>implying a to green angle tower movie wouldn't be amazing
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>>86876172
>not reading Stormlight for Cosmere meta-commentary

Doin' it wrong faggot.
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>>86876471
>>86883808
Lord Ruler did nothing wrong
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>>86884405
Except he did.

He died :^)
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>>86883930
here it be
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>>86884543
This is not a bad rewrite, most of that apocalyptic tier emotion is intended. Of course people don't think that way, consciously, the comment on it being too poetic is correct. It's pretty much just poetry masquerading as a bit of prose. I think this would be the perfect rewrite if I was trying to make this the beginning of a regular story. As it is, this is something that ends in one more page.
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>>86884678
gotcha. you're right, i was editing it into prose.
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>>86884543
>>86884678
Not to spend too long in defense of myself, but when you start to just strip out most of the descriptions you lose the intent of the piece. The second paragraph, that you have made the first, I like that critique. Flows way better, the end does get a bit too poetic. But dominating is not the word I would use, or think to use. Not the right tone.

All in all, yeah people and characters don't think like that, they think huh. But if you asked me to describe the act of feeling something and waking up into a situation. I wouldn't say "Huh" because I'm describing it.
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>>86884543
I would discount this advice. You
>>86883578
have a unique writing style, like chuck palahniuk or cormac mccarthy. It's hard to critique it but not nearly as hard as it is to write like that.
Here's something you have to understand: You can break any rule of writing that exists, but you must understand that rule first.
If you don't follow this rule, you will fail. No exceptions. But if you can know the rules, and break them, you'll be a fantastic writer.
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>>86884796
>But dominating is not the word I would use, or think to use. Not the right tone.

used it to get rid of the adverb while having the same meaning as what you wrote, but there's others you could use.

>But if you asked me to describe the act of feeling something and waking up into a situation. I wouldn't say "Huh" because I'm describing it.

mostly, i'm just saying it's too complex, too fast. the strong feelings can still be there, but choose the best images and emphasize them with nuance instead of jumping onto the crest of the next big emotion. more chimes and light xylophone tings instead of cymbals and trombones. once again, that's from my opinion on a prosody standpoint, so what i'm saying may be irrelevant to what you want out of it.
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>>86878585
Fuck that...just make Elric, or any of Moorecock's series that have been ripped off by so many others over the decades.
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>>86884815
Son you go telling me I sound like chuck and cormac and you gone GET DAT DICK SUCKED.

Thank you for the good advice.
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>>86884815
>You have a unique writing style, like chuck palahniuk or cormac mccarthy.

i would discount this advice.
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>>86884968
You don't sound like them, it's just that its hard to critique them or you because you and them write in weird ways. If any of you three submitted a writing sample to a highschool English teacher, you'd probably fail for breaking writing conventions. But it's still a fun read that could find a niche audience.
Do you have a blog or anywhere I can follow you? Because I'd like to see this if it was published.
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>>86884943
This is fair, I did come to a prose-off with poetry. I accept that, and I'm pretty much just using the continued attention to talk about the piece. Pretty spooky though right? When i walk my dog and see something in the shadows at night I get a little heebyjeebed. If I woke up in a cabin at night in the woods with all the doors flung open I'd probably rather shit and die than go find out.
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>>86885032
I do not have a blog, but I'm working on submitting to a chap book contest next month. But as I crave attention and validation, maybe I should get a blog?
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>>86879812
I counted five. The worst was "yet still" which was just redundant.
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>Taking my hand in hers, I turned towards the Death Magician. Glancing backwards, I saw Crimson’s eyes begin to water, her tears like golden sapphires against her ivory cheek. Gritting my teeth, I placed the back of my hand across her face and cradled her beautiful flesh. I wasn’t about to let a demon ruin everything. Everything I had worked so hard to protect. Ever since the death of my parents I’ve always felt this outrageous and tempestuous urge to protect the living, and I wasn’t about to let some freak ruin it all. Originias curse pulsed on the back of my neck as I took out my sword. A pain in the neck. Literally.
>“Hey, asshole”, I say defiantly.
>“Are you ready?” he smirked cruelly as he interrupts me. Taken aback, I ask in a tentative way,
>“ready to what?” I barked back, my fists clenching.
>“Ready to die!”
>He rushed forward and yanked my arm out of it’s socket, but at this point I could no longer feel pain. I laugh. And then plunge my hand straight through his chest. Startled, he howled in trepidation and his dragon tattoos convulsed, as the creatures below us hissed in a penurious attitude. But then, something happened. Something that I would never forget. Not even on my deathbed would I ever forget this. Even that moment when Chrysalis raped and tortured my mother, paled in comparison to this. Stuck inside this anfractuous maze, with my hand stuck inside the demon's chest, Crimson took a step forward and
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>>86885142
cringekino
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>>86885142
One mans eyes can only take so much rape
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>>86885269
Fuck, wrong thread. Ignore this.
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so how much gratuitous kinky sex and/or incest should I include in my forthcoming fantasy trilogy and future TV series? how much should be BM/WM?
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>>86885032
Thanks for inspiring me to get a blog and to pursue dreams of further publishing friend.
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Where my Malazan niggas at?
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>>86883578
consider revising

>"mud and half-life of dreams"
>the weird spacing
>unnecessary semi-colons
>starlight is better without a dash
>"dark fur a smear of shadow on shadow" - redundant
>a dry mouth "stuck with sleep" - doesn't make sense

Not a fan of first person or asyndeton but that's a matter of taste. Last two paragraphs need a second pass. Drop that sentence after "yawns wide" or just condense to "The door yawns wide." The final paragraph is disjointed from the previous ones and the quality total drop from the rest of the piece.

and renew your windows cracks.
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>>86876565
>It's a passing fad

>implying HBO isn't going to be milking the setting with series after series

There's a lot of lore to make more shows off of.
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>>86885556
I finished the first book and just started the second one. What am I in for?
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>>86875849
>>Dungeons & Dragons (Forgotten Realms)
>http://collider.com/dungeons-and-dragons-movie-story/
They had a pic of the Fell's Five comic on that page (which isn't Forgotten Realms) - now that's what they should adapt for a movie.
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>>86885556
Unfilmable.
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>>86884437
>God x Arya Stark of Mistborn
>psssh....nothing personal...Lord Ruler
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>>86885860
Why? Don't you want to see CGI big jaghut cock?
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>LOTR
>All white men
hmmm.... no wonder GoT is more popular sweetie.... time to accept that diversity makes things objectively better
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>>86885740
These are all good and valid. Will do a second pass before submitting.

I'm never going to renew and you can't make me.
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>>86885803
Felisin being a bitch, watching suffering unfold and a sad doggo sideplot you can almost miss
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Got has definitely gone downhill, but if I'm being honest I never really cared for lotr. I actually fell asleep during the first one.
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>>86875849
What about Berserk?
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>>86875849

Sanderson is a legitimate giant in high fantasy. If Robert Jordan couldn't do it with the wheel of time Brandon Sanderson has done it with Mistborn and the Stormlight Archive. Doesn't speak to the overall quality of his writing, but it does say something about adaptability and market value.
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>>86876125
>other than Wheel of Time not brain dead fanfic tier
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>>86886124
Kys weeb
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>>86885915
>a dwarf, an elf, three hobits, a wizard, two men, not diverse enough,
>meantime in got, the only good diverse character is a pirate, enuch, google translate girl and ice zombie
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>Malazan was supposed to be a movie first
>stupid Canadian filmmakers decided that fantasy is for gay nerds
>we got excellent novel series instead
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Yes.
Pic related is the next big thing. Memory, sorrow and thorn.
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Mot to sound like a weeb here but how come fantasy writers don't borrow from Japanese artists in the same way Sci Fi writers borrowed a lot of Sci Fi elements from Japanese creators

I mean there was always an artistic trade between Sci Fi, but not Fantasy
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>>86876310
Yes. As LoTR wasn't good. It was boring as fuck. Yet morons love that shit, same with Game of Thrones.
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>>86876702
Geralt, Ciri, Yennifer, and Triss will all be white. The author of the books is being very hands on with this one.

Netflix generally doesn't force diversity.
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>>86876406
>>86876663

Fuck off and finish your cunting books you fat old faggot!
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>>86888152
Billions of dollars, high critic scores, countless awards disagree with you
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>>86876125

Earthsea and Elric would work better as movies

New Sun is unfilmable and would take away from the richness of the book being adapted. Its kinda like the Ulysses of fantasy.
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Add Joe Manganiello's Dragonlance adaptation to that list
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>>86888201
I can't tell is serious or not.
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>>86888751
They've done many adaptations and rarely have they race bent.
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>>86875900
not him, and i enver watched LotR

redpill me why is LotR better than GoT?


I found GoT more mature than LotR's fairy tale. Not just the sex&gore but maybe bc of the fewer fairytale creatures as well.
(funny i also like scifis more with less alien races. eg Stargate> STrek, SWars)
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>>86885860
This.

Even given the insane budget it would need to have, the story is almost too complex o be told in a visual medium.

An animated series is the only option, and even then it would require complete and total viewer attention and contemplation even.

That being said I'd still like to see pic related depicted on-screen before I die.
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>>86888939
I think the anon means that while both are fantasy, they're different sorts, so comparing them is apples to oranges. Both fruit/fantasy, but thats where the similarities end.

GOT's earlier seasons are on par with most of LOTR for me, but recent seasons have devolved slightly. LOTR is better overall for me personally, but I can see it being down to personal preference. I like how epic LOTR is. Its mythological in that way (intentionally, by Tolkein). GOT is like a fantasy history, in the early seasons. Very complex, very well writen. LOTR is this wonderful dream where good and evil are obvious and every scene stirs the heartstrings.

I love LOTR and the early GOT seasons, and enjoy the later seasons though it makes me slightly sad at the decline.
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Warhammer Fantasy is more likely to get any sort of adaptation than 40k. Easier on the effects and Fantasy is more popular right now with the normies because of how well Total Warhammer is doing. Also, fantasy in general is doing better than sci fi in all forms of media it seems to me.
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>>86876663
>guys on college football teams dont watch LotR
Yes they do
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>>86877536
>loses argument
>"ummm it's just different opinions"

No faggot, it's not.

In 5 years GoT prime will be over and HBO will be trying to beat a dead horse with spin offs people won't give a shit about.

In 10 years New Line will either rerelease LOTR in 3D (or just flat out remake it) as the brand recognition will still be so strong.
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>>86880651
Anon "Lost" was a pop culture phenomenon which people discussed at length for years.

Nobody gives a shit about it now.
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>>86886469
>google translate girl
Which one is that
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>>86878719
>no womyn
But at least there's one nigger so gl with that
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>>86889385
jesus you went to bed, woke up and are still going on about it?

you're delusional, that's the real reason i can't argue it. you don't have a rigid perception of reality.

>with spin offs people won't give a shit about.

curious, you seem to have forgotten a certain film series... The Hafling? something like that. it's on the tip of my tongue.

just stop breathing you waste of life.
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>>86878719
You "I started with Dawn Of War" people need to think smaller
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>>86876272
Dalinar and Kaladin for me. I don't give shit for Shallan
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>>86878719
Absolute fucking brainlet post, anon. Perhaps try never posting again.
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>>86875849
Mistborn would genuinely work best as a videogame, Sanderson is only good in worldbuilding and thinking of cool powers, it's already super videogamey.
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>>86878719
>the most expensive show ever made
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>>86876172
>implying Stormlight Archive isn't better than got and lotr
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