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>start watching rick and morty due to excessive shilling on /tv/
>literally the first episode includes rick saying that there is no god

How the fuck is this edgy, fedora tier garbage getting so popular? What the fuck is wrong with you retards
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>has a few scenes where jaded fucked up characters talk about nihilism and how there's no god
>the entire premise of the show must be atheism my tiny christfag brain can't possibly think about anything else now

fuck off these threads stopped being funny like half a year ago
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rip that band-aid off
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>getting upset over a cartoon
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>>86860690
You are the type of a person who thought this is funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GS8JNE7RhU
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Imagine living in a country where it is 'edgy' not to believe in a sky wizard

Literally Iran tier
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>>86860630
>>literally the first episode includes rick saying that there is no god

thats what all of 4chan does every single day but when a cartoon does it its a problem
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>>86860630
It's a show that caters to braindeads that have a childish sense of humour.

>DUDE HITLER LMAO
>WOW SO RANDOM LOL

Garbage, and I'm sick of having to hear people rant about it.
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Season 3 is even worse than this

>women are strong too lol
>woman self insert instructs rick
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>>86860630
>scientist character doesn't believe that there's a god

Woow how was I supposed to know that?
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Hahaha religious pussy getting offended. They're in a universe which has portal guns don't get offended you little bitch
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Reading you people's pretentious whinging about the show simply because it's popular makes me like it even more.
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>>86860630

WHERE'S THE LIE THO?
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Imagine if South Park came out today. How hysterically mad would thin-skinned fags be?
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>>86860630
Yeah man, 100% agreed. Praise God. The Republican Party is cool, unlike Rick and Morty. Shadilay and onward to Kekistan, my fellow 'pede!
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You can't seriously believe in god in this day and age. I guarantee you that 90% of the people here who say that they're christian are just doing it for cultural or social reasons. The other 10% is probably schizophrenic or schizotypal.
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>>86860630
holy fucking shit I am a /pol/ack but you retard spergs really piss me off. He must say this like 3/4 times in the entire show nut you're so blinded by your ""ideological"" war that you can't get over ONE fucking line. Stop whining all the time and make 1000 threads when there's tiny little thing you don't like. Fuck, life must be tough when you lose your shit for literally nothing. This show is enjoyable without being a masterpiece. No one claims that (except reddit maybe I don't know you tell me). It isn't as LOL SO RANDOM and politically oriented as you think, it's just a fun animated show with some shitty gags here and there. When will /tv/ stop being so autistic about Rick and Morty?

inb4 the sjw in disguise pic
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>>86860630
To be fair, it takes a high iq to really appreciate the depth of creativity and science in rick and morty. Most of the jokes will go over an average 100iq persons head
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>>86860922
It's time to stop posting, /r/atheism
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>>86862339
t. I speak of things I dont understand
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>>86862980
>god is real because I feel it
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>>86862736
Can someone explain this one?
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>>86863013
>God is not real because I feel it
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>>86863263
Pretty sure that should be...

>God is not real because there is not even a shred of evidence to suggest that he is or that the idea of God existing is even worth entertaining

Learn how burden of proof works, anon.
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Why are atheists so closed minded?
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>>86863378
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>>86863455
Speaking as a Christfag, that was an objectively horrible movie, although like two of the subplots of were fucking hilarious.
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>>86860906
You are the type of person who is triggered by it.
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imagine getting triggered by a cartoon
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MY I.Q. has been tested at 93, can I enjoy this show?
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>>86860630
The first episode establishes what kind of show it will be. Now you won't watch anymore, right? Isn't that a good thing?
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>>86860630
>believing in magic sky-daddy
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/tv/ is the land of Sneed's, Game of Thrones, Riverdale, and The 100. And you're surprised that they like shit like R&M.
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>>86860630
>year of the false prophet 2017
>thinking atheism is edgy

Go outside.
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>>86860630
wait till you get to the third episode
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>Rick says there's no god
>When shit really hits the fan, he prays to God
Makes me think
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>>86860630
The fact that such a meme show like Rick and Morty is pushing Atheism actually makes me want to believe in God again.
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>>86863378
The universe existence seems to point to a divine prime mover moreso than "dude nothing just spontaneously exploded and created the universe XD"

True that doesn't prove it was YHWH but a prime mover jumpstarting the universe needs less faith than what atheist believe.
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>it's another "/pol/tard OP needs a safe space" thread
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>>86863718
>True that doesn't prove it was YHWH
Nope, the fact that the universe exists proves The Bible specifically
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>>86863765
How?
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>>86863646
I felt that was some kinda stab at people who say they dont believe in God but give up that idea as soon as they're in life-threatening situations
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how much of a beta faggot do you have to be to unironically worship some pussy god who hates fun and gives bone cancer to kids
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>>86863812
lol... why don't you read The Bible and find out? Or go to church and listen? There are a million ways to find out the truth for yourself. I guess it's true what they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
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>>86863930
If Thors so great why did the snowniggers that invented him convert to Christianity?
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>>86860630
>Rick literally plays to God in the season finale
>pottery
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>>86864007
>make claim
>can't support it
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>>86863930
Maybe you should worship a pagan god that actually managed to keep its people worshiping him even after Christianity showed up.
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>>86860630
God isn't real though
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>>86863118
Lisa has become a regular customer of Chuck's Fuck & Suck, so Marge decided a confrontation is in due order. You can see the mixed look of anguish and fear on Lisa's face, because she knows that what she has done will bear a heavy price for the whole family.
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>>86864080
The truth is everywhere. It's not my fault that you CHOOSE to shut it out. As long as you won't open your heart to God, you may as well go back to watching Rick and Morty
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>>86860630
How the fuck is stating a simple fact edgy?
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>>86860922
>Imagine living in a country where it is 'edgy' not to believe in a sky wizard
This. Americans are really weird and stupid.
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>>86860630
It's not even edgy. It's fedoracore.
Edgy would be holocaust/jew jokes, nigger jokes and trashing woman to name a few subjects.

But guess what, real edgy dont fly on TV. especially not in america.
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>>86863118
Ad hom from christfags who don't understand reason or logic. It's far easier to post fedora memes and accuse people of being redditors than to forumlate an argument in defense of a sky fairy.
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>>86864208
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>>86860630
well there is no god so it is not edgy.

...
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>>86860630

>theres no god, morty
>automatically edgy fedora garbage

kys
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imagine being the type of mouthbreathing mongoloid who sincerely replies to an obvious bait thread that's been posted at least half a dozen times before
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>>86860630
Not believing in gods is "edgy"? You sound like a complete fucking moron.
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>>86860630
>true facts are edgy

lol
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>>86864587

how does it feel to be that mouthbreathing mongoloid?
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>>86863473
playing it safe,posting a meme strawman gets the job done,but a well thought out bait post will get you more replies.i see you got the skill but you still have a long way to go before you can play with the big boys. i say you keep up the memeing,but try to step out of your comfort zone; it's the only way you'll ever improve.don't get discouraged and good luck!
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That's what you get for watching a show Reddit users love
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>>86864038
Because the old Gods were all about the rule of the strong and democracy.

The Christian god is a great tool to subjugated the masses by the means of "divine law".

tl;dr Christianity is the shield of the beta against a true democratic rule by strength.
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>>86864328
t.fedora
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>>86862339
*tips fedora*
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>>86860630
Every believer I know finds the there-is-no-god jokes either funny or utterly harmless. How are there so many people on 4chan who are so sensitive about it? Are they really Christians who are offended by the mere premise of the joke? Are they US Republicans who are looking too hard for things in pop culture that they can point to as personal affronts to their ideologies? Or is there an actual rational critique they have outside of faggot ass outrage-based sociopolitics (that they somehow forget to elaborate on every time they make these posts)?
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>>86865696
Desire to be victims. To be able to point and say, "look how oppressed we are, pity us"
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>>86860922
Imagine seeing the glory of all creation,a nd the obvious craftmanship of everything and everyone, and believing it all just assembled by a random chance.
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>>86860906
Imagine being so angry about niggers that you can't even laugh at the idea of an old lady getting fucked by one while her husband watches from a closet. As though it's so real to you that it's actually
upsetting. It's like extremist Muslims who can't laugh about anything because every joke offends their religion in some retarded way.
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>>86860922
this. it's pretty sad how far and how fast western culture, especially in the US, is descending into religious and ideological extremism and the hatred of education. who's going to be the dominant global culture when every part of the planet is full of tribe-based rock-throwing hate-filled little-dicked screamers? fucking Japan? dear god.
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>>86864038
Because if they didn't then they would be murdered. What a cool religion you have :)
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>>86865785
Yes, it was assembled by chance, biological molecules could easily form in primitive conditions on Earth, and there's nothing inherently ordered about the observable universe that lends credence to the assumption that it was created by a higher power.

Just give it up, my man, the only thing you have is faith, which is fine but pointless in any logical discussion
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Why does Morty stutter so fucking much? They could get double the story into each episode if they just had him talk normally.
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>>86862373
t. sperg
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>>86865789
If only blacked wasn't a jewish propaganda
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>>86860630
why does anything with "no god" instantly considered edgy? It's a tv show and you barely hear him ever talk about god or religion.
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>>86862182
I don't know about that... Everybody instantly ripped apart season 20 for some reason.
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>>86865009
Go back to reading dawkins faggot
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>>86860630
You're a retard. The "Buuurp there's no god, Morty" meme was making fun of pretentious fedora redditors. It didn't spring up because of the line itself. It's about the shitty fanbase. If that line actually triggered you, then you need to take some time away from /tv/ and stop trying to fit in with strangers you'll never meet.
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>>86865938
*tips in reddit*
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We live in a world where everyone is encouraged to kill white people, God is seen as a funny magic grandpa and women are being brainwashed to whore themselves as much as possible.

And you wonder why would someone who want to preserve a normal world is mad about fedora cartoon trying to undermine christians in the most stupid way possible.
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>>86866259
>everyone is trying to kill whites
Proof?

>god is a funny magic grandpa
That was the fault of the New Testament, bit late to cry now.

>women are brainwashed into whoring themselves out
Women naturally seek out partners, this is what animals do in nature. Why do you see nature as bad?

>fedora cartoon trying to undermine christians
So one throwaway joke in one episode is suddenly trying to undermine all of christianity? Especially in a universe where it's shown rick does pray when he's in danger, the devil exists, and cosmic forces have been hinted at.
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Fucking cry more you bitch, its one line from a guy who's character is that he's a nihilistic asshole.

Go find a safe space to cry in you loser.
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>>86865919
Look at the absolute state of this post.
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Massive cocks.
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>>86866496
WUBADUDBALAUBALABADUBA
PICKLE RIIICK
SO FUNEH
NIHILISM IS THE NEW COOL
XD
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>>86863536
inhale some nail polish and you'll be good to go.
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>>86860630
brap
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>>86866662
rollam
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>>86866250
How old are you? 4chan used to be overwhelmingly atheist before the whole /pol/-kike conspiracy theories became popular. Why did you even choose this website to be religious on?
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>>86866662
8 please
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>>86866635
No way, retard. Being a Conservative Christian posting on a porno anime board is way cooler.
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gimme drunk rick!
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>>86866662
5 or 6 later
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>>86866729
Staunch anti religious people have always been laughed at here, specially after people discovered r atheism
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The real problem is the brainlets that only think about the Jewish god. Plenty of amazing gods out there and they pick the kosher one.
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>>86867248
That doesn't mean that it was full of religious people
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>>86860906
It's extremely funny.

It's like watching a cartoon made by /pol/.
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>>86862182
But there is a god and a Jesus in South Park. And Mormonism is seen as a valid way to live life.
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Reminder that Rick begrudgingly believes in a god and that his atheism is just a cynical facade so he doesn't look foolish for believing in sky wizard
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>>86865938

> Causal Universe
> Material in nature
> Matter is Contingent
> "The Causal Material Universe obviously created itself" t. atheist

Fucking retards
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>>86869326
Reminder that Rick is portrayed as a god and his constant deification is what the show focuses on.
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>>86866635

Woah nice argument you spazy retard
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>>86860906
>can't even laugh at a cuckold
Kek
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>>86869534
>rick has godlike powers and intelligence
>almost always uses them only for himself
>is an outright dick to others with them
>despite pleads from his loyal followers he's almost never helpful and constantly a force for terror
>ends up hated and feared for his power instead of loved and adored for his abilities

Wow it's almost like you got to the point of the show
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>>86869662
Can't laugh at something that is pushed down my throat everyday by every media ever. I mean who's so retarded to laugh at a joke a millionth time?
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>>86869754
Where else do you see cuckold jokes?
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>>86869754
Name 10 kino where this happens.

Not even that guy, but if it's really a million this should be easy.
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>>86866721
Shiteater.
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>>86869868
>>86869921
I am talking about real life you morons.
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>>86864192
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>>86861145
Faggot.
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>>86861912
*Tips*
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>>86870049
Because it's so hard to false flag on 4chan
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Well this thread gave me laugh. Thanks.
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>>86863378
There is not a single shred of evidence that he does either.
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Rick and Morty seems like invader zim for a new generation.

Cringy as fuck when adults talk about it
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>>86869981
Where do you see cuckoldry jokes "in real life"?
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>>86860906
it is hilarious though
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>>86863546
*Tips*
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>>86865785
>Imagine seeing the glory of all creation and thinking it's definitely was created by this one god in this one religion created 2000 years ago by jews that I just happen to be born in a family where it's worshipped out of the millions of god's that existed throughout history and are still currently being worshipped with just as much as evidence for their god. Definitely mine. Those other billions of people? Idiots.
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>>86863761
/pol/ is the heart and soul of 4chan. If you don't like that, then leave.
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>>86863718

> the prime mover argument

lmao a 10 year old can destroy your retarded argument by simply asking "then who created god".
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>>86864525
*Tips*
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>>86866662
Nice
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>>86863523

>m-maybe if I throw their insults back at them it will work!
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>>86870302
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Why is /tv/ being raided by gaytheists?
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>>86870371
You came here two years ago tops
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>>86870205
>gib the white women to big black cocks you evil whitey

Except it's not a joke.
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I wonder why so many of you claim to be depressed and suicidal
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>>86870460
I was always here, Christcuck. Deal with it.
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>>86870526
Prove it.
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FUCKING RETARDS END YOURSELVES
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>>86860630
Why does this trigger the Christ fag so hard? It was one character in a show with a nihilistic jaded personality. That doesnt mean the whole show is nihilistic. If anything the show has a much more positive message about male role models where Rick is a foil to Jerry.
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>>86870505
Are you schizophrenic?
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>>86870648
Fuck off kike
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>ITT: fake /pol/lock christians pretend to be triggered

just kill yourself christcucks
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>>86860630
Given the growing rates of irreligion all over the world, it's not exactly an edgy controversial opinion.
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Why does reddit come here to talk about Rick and Morty here. Ironically talking about the show more than reddit.
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>>86865198
>the rule of the strong
democracy
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FUCK OFF NEW FAG.

4chan has always been an atheist site. God fags are literalyl the biggest retards on the planet and a more efficient world would have just fucking purged them all already. The fact that you think there are other fellow retarded god fags on here just proves you are a child. Fuck off and never come back.,
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>put your panties, shit on the floor
what do they mean by this?
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>>86870683
Lmao. Sensitive
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(((Atheism)))
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>people unironically believe in the Bible
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>>86870979
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>>86866259
This. Rick and Morty is another sign of declining western society. Stop watching this shit.
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>>86870979
It's amazing how you faggots still can't fuck grasp why atheists are so despised. No one here actually believes in God, you're just so fucking obnoxious that it incites contrarianism.
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>>86871098
Speak for yourself heaven
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>>86862339
to the fiery pit you go
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>>86862339
I believe in God. I'm a pantheist.

Check and mate.
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>>86860630
One giant shaggy dog story.

The third season is where most viewers will finally understand that its a hollow show.
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>>86863531
>H-Hey CIA, take off the sack
>This better not be another trick Rick
>It's great I promise
>I TURNED MYSELF INTO A BIG GUY, I'M A BIG GUY FOR YOU
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>>86864328

Guys, we've got a high level fedora-user here. His bullwhip cuts strawmen as deeply as his witty quips.

Whatever shall we do?
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>>86866662
I have high hopes here
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>god exists
hmm no sweetie, even the bible says it, shouldn't the judge of all earth do rigth?
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>>86866662

6, for sure but let's see what RNG thinks.
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>>86874996
Winner winner, chicken dinner
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>>86862373
It's just AI shill bots, not even joking. There was a thread the other day on /g/ that detailed bot traffic on both 4chan and reddit. They post tons of worthless threads to clog the subreddits and catalogs on 4chan with sophisticated yet simple repeated topics using keywords, popular topics, etc.
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>>86865785
What's wrong with all of it being assembled by random chance? There's a lot of time, and a lot of space.
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>>86870371
That is not [s4s]
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There is actually a joke in the series where Rick asks God for help when he's in a desperate situation and as soon as it turns in his favor he goes back to immediately saying he doesn't need God. How dumb do you have to be to not see the joke in this?
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>>86870764
Sorry, we aren't suicidal like aheists.
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>>86869754
Why are you even here, the cuck-obsession capitol of the internet?
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>>86870979
>>86871227
4chan has always been a place to bully atheists.
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>>86871057
>>86874971
>>>/a/ faggot
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>>86877302
This is how we know you're new here. You probably think that crying girl image christspam is old 4chan.
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>>86864645
Pretty bad
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>>86864238
Because it's not a fact, you can't prove that god doesn't exist.
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>>86877462
Most people assume that everything is false until proven otherwise.
It's the most logical stance to take against the unknown.
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>>86877409
>Atheistcuck
>Calling anyone new
kek
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>>86877462
Why is this the only place this rule applies?
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>>86877524
That doesn't even make sense
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>>86860630
>little babby who believes in wizards gets triggered by an amoral cartoon character telling him god isn't real
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>You can't prove that god doesn't exist
>You can't prove that the tooth fairy doesn't exist
Both statements are equally valid. You have elevated your supreme being to the same status as the tooth fairy. Congratulations.
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>>86862182
Yeah but South Park was funny
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>>86877337
>complaining about anime on a vietnamese macaroni picture website
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>>86869174
yes, but they look like this and live in imagination land
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>>86866259
where did this whole white genocide thing start
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>>86866662
PCKLE RICKLE
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>>86863378
>I believe that the limited human perception of reality is the absolute truth of the universe
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>>86866259
>everyone is encouraged to kill white people
Only white supremacists.
>God is seen as a funny magic grandpa
He always was. You're the retards who thought he was real.
>women are being brainwashed to whore themselves as much as possible
Bet you hate Islam though.
>normal world
If it's normal to pay a guy to tell you not to masturbate because his imaginary friend said so, you might be a cuck.
>fedora cartoon trying to undermine christians
If you're so afraid of an atheist cartoon character undermining your thousands of years old religion, maybe your religion is retarded.
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>>86877762
Hmmm I wonder. Now multiply this by thousands.
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>>86877901
>I believe that this specific character from a book exists because humanity is ignorant
non sequitur
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>>86877954
what is that
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>>86877735
Think about it for a second man. Can you prove God wouldn't look like that?
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>>86877708
>assblasted because his sekrit club was cucked from him by based /pol/ and /int/ meme and shitpost bros

This.
Is.
Our.
Website.

Your precious modcat was _FIRED_ for messing with /pol/

We
Are
4chan

you are a dying containment board while our boards continue to grow by leaps and bounds

We elected a mother fucking president

you are still circlejerking over the same garbage sameface anime, but with steadily less and less people

you've been cucked out of the only website you ever belonged by people you hate

you are the lowest form of life on this website
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>>86877990
An article by some lone SJW which was banned by the website it was posted on.
But white supremacists like to trot it around so they can feel oppressed.
America is the fucking oppression olympics right now.
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>>86877981
You make assumptions about my beliefs, just as you make assumptions about the nature of reality. Reason is a tool, not the guiding principle of existence. Stay in the hell of your choice for the rest of your miserable existence, but have the decency to not drag others down with you.
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>>86877931
>The people who built civilisation as we know it are retards
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>>86878090
>>>/pol/
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>>86860630
>literally the first episode includes rick saying that there is no god
There isn't though.
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>>86860630
>associates, friends and the internet recommend me this show
>pick random episode
>Lincoln Hitler has mixed feelings and no one likes him
>big adventure for getting off this rock.. oh wait drugs!
>he's that guy that gets on a topic no one cares about, it's wacky because he's an alien!
>testicle monsters
>belch

The only funny jokes were wordplays from the parents on the Titanic reenactment that I already forgot.

This is supposed to be the good season right? Why was that shit so unfunny?
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>>86878153
We already are on /pol/, 4chan is /pol/.
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>>86878151
yep
they didn't know how lightning worked so they assumed it was a man in the sky with magic powers
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>>86877614
Prove god doesn't exist, go on.
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>>86866259
Having such fragile faith that a simple line "there's no God" can undermine your enjoyment of a thing and suddently, said thing is aligns with a set of values.
Here's a funny thing tho'. Rick is portrayed as a nihilistic person because in his adventures through the multiverse he finds the ambiguity of morality in a religious dogmatic way, and such a chaotic universe that makes no sense, mocking god is the logical thing, but in Season 2, Rick is portrayed asking for forginvess in his final moments, just to mock God again when he is safe.
Is not the line "there's no god" what you should be looking, but the context of why and who says it.
If you can only see "haha your religion sucks, what you belive is stupid" when you look at a show like this, you are missing the point and the result is the projection of your own desires. You want to flick your religion and beliefs, society is giving you validation, but you wanna be a maverick so you choose to stick with your religion, even if you don't actually belive it. To you I say. You are looking way to up for "god". Look at the ground and you'll find him. Then, stuff like this becomes funny because other resons. Because it has other reasons, not just to mock your weak-ass beliefs.
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>>86877521
But there is no evidence tha god doesn't exist.
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>>86860922
Imagine living in an authoritarian distopia that replaced God with the State and you can't even call a boy a boy if he wants to be called a girl or you go to jail.

I know it's hard to live with depression, I would probably be depressed in that weather too, but fuck get your shit together.
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>>86877616
Yes it does. If you're an atheist, you're a newfag redditor.
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>>86878246
They have done more than you have in your miserable life.
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>>86878299
How come anyone who wants to get rid of religion is accused of wanting to replace it with something?
You don't need a replacement. Grow the fuck up.
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I genuinely do not believe that the majority of this website's userbase are actually religious.
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>>86860906
>cuckoldry joke
>literally ALL /pol/ can joke about
>they're still offended by it
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>>86878361
Because there is always an agenda. Religion is so big that you don't want to get rid off it and leave it like that, there's always something in return. It's a basic concept yet people don't understand this. In today's world everything is being replaced for something else.
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>>86878361
Yes you do. Anarchists and Ayn Rand fags are both autistic and haven't grasped a shred of western philosophy.
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>>86860630
>LE FEDORA HAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHA

Kill yourself you subhuman degenerate. If there's one thing Hitler and Stalin had right its that all you faggots worshiping cruxified jews should be gassed.
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>>86878347
>implying I give a shit about accomplishing anything with my life
It's all about hedonism for me.
At least I won't be remembered hundreds of years from now as a guy who believed in jewish fairy tales.
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>>86878415
My agenda is I don't want to live under the rules of your religion because I happen to live in a country dominated by you retards.
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>>86878430
Hitler gassed no one.
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>>86878430
But hitler was a christian.
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>>86878422
I'm not an anarchist or an ayn rand fag though...
I'm just a guy who thinks religion is stupid.
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>>86877614
No but is true. Describe the god you belive in Anon. And we can tell ya why that's not god. Because you can't fathom god. The God. You can't know what it is, because is far beyond you. If you belive God exists, then you must accept you don't know what it is, you can't know it, you are no god, you are an ant. You will never comprehend god. For all you know, god is literally everything. Or God is everyone. Or God is not even concern with this part of our infinite universe. Maybe God is not even in this universe. How can we know? You can't say "god is real" because you can't offer proof, same way you can't say "god is not real" for the same reason. Our species don't have the capacity to even travel the Solar System and you think you can presume to know if there is a creator for literally an infinite place that came out of a singularity that maybe be just a fraction of another infinite realities?
So. God is real. God isn't real. You can't know that. I can't know that. You need to have faith. And that's arbitrary and personal. That makes all this conversations pointless. Because finding God, is not something you can do by influence. Is something you should be doing on a personal level. By your own.
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>>86878481
Without these rules, the world would turn to shit, look at America for an example.
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>>86878535
You're mistaken about my place in this conversation
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>>86878511
Read more.
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>>86864733
NO

We are NOT doing this shit again! I swear to god, avatarfag, don't you dare...
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>>86878563
How the fuck is America an example? It's ruled by christians.
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>>86878630
It's ruled by jews who promote degeneracy, hardly a christian thing.
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>>86878630
It's ruled by jews who promote atheism and degeneracy, because of them, subhumans now have rights.
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>>86878727
>>86878755
Literally every president has been a christian. Or at least a fake christian.
You faggots are retarded.
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>>86860630
>believing in made up superstition that comforts normies

When did godfags infest 4chan
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>>86878296
If God exists, who created it?
If God doesn't need a creator, why does reality?
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>>86870378
The fundamental attribute of God is that God is. When Moses asks God "When the Isaelites ask who sent me, what should I say?" God says "Tell them I AM sent you".
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>>86878860
When someone decided that believing in god is somehow a fuck you to sjws.
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>>86878857
>Implying the president has a word
Kek
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>>86864111
So you worship the shogun then?
No Japanese """""""""gods""""""""" stopped Christianity
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>>86878857
Fake christian is actually very damaging, because conservative folks believe that they are not getting closer to their extinction. A nigger president is a red flag but America died years ago so whatever.
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>>86863718
>The universe existence seems to point to a divine prime mover
Why?
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>>86878868
God created Earth, not the universe.
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>>86878860
Normies are atheists, retard.
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>>86878907
The fundamental attribute of the universe is that the universe is.
And we have millions of years of evidence demonstrating that the universe exists. And there is literally no evidence the universe ever wasn't. In fact, we have a law of thermodynamics saying energy can't be created at all.
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>>86865938
Where did the matter come from to begin with?
Did it just poof into existence by chance?
>muh quantum foam flucuations
Where did the space the quantum foam exists in come from? Did it just poof into existence by chance?
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>>86870170
I'm convinced there's one person on /tv/ who doesn't understand that this is an anonymous image board. He calls everyone Jason or other stuff like that.
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>>86878992
>he thinks being a Christian is edgy

Join Isis if you want to be contrarian
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>>86879018
The assumption that there was ever nothing is a christian one. Nothing in science suggests that. You think there had to be nothing so that god could create everything. Except god who breaks the rules because you're retarded.
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>>86879018
>Where did the matter come from to begin with?
Why should it all come from anything to begin with?
That same question can be formulated from any God, religious people answer it with "duh it just is".
Why is it so hard to believe that matter "just is"? You're just adding another cause to the chain of cause-effect without changing the fact that the initial cause poofed into existence from nothing.
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>>86879045
It's not edgy, but it is significantly less normie that atheism.
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>>86878361
>atheists literally tear down people's core beliefs and leave them with nothing positive to replace it
>Hmm, why does everyone think vocal atheists are assholes?

You lot are worse than a fundie Christian. At least they'll offer a community and set of values to connect with. Atheists leave you with nihilism.
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>>86879045
>implying there's nothing edgy about cutting off the dick skin of babies
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>>86879133
you don't need anything to replace it
when you tell your kids santa claus isn't real you don't replace santa with something
they just grow the fuck up
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>>86874384

Just think S3 sold out to it's popularity too much. It's far more entertaining when Rick's a complete asshole and the series takes the problems of a multiverse story to it's extreme (sheer lack of empathy since there's countless replacements that are 99.999% the same/with shared experiences).
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>>86878868
Because the universe is a tangible thing we exist in and God isn't.

An atheist who says that nothing exploded into everything or that the universe just always existed is using as much faith as a Christian.
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>>86879133
Make up your own mind about how the world should be. Don't just piggyback on the moral values of jewish peasants. You fucking sheep.
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>>86879178
Does not believing in santa cause you to become a greasy slob who believes the world has no rules?
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>>86879133
>atheists literally tear down people's core beliefs and leave them with nothing positive to replace it
Atheists just pretend to refute beliefs that have no logical basis.
If you want to teach values and morals through fables you're free to do so, but when you pretend they're real well into your adult age don't expect people to not argue them back.
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>>86879214
Nothing in science says there was ever nothing. That's what you believe. That there was nothing and god magic'd everything into existence.
Don't project your retardery onto us.

And you just made up those rules about god not having to obey the rules because he's intangible or some shit. You have nothing to demonstrate that.
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>>86879178
Except you don't create guidelines in your life around fucking Santa Claus. Christianity gave people ideals to strive for, if you take it all away, what are they left it? Oh right, nothing, because they just have to "grow up", whatever that means. Probably pointless existence with no contribution to anyone whatsoever. But you are the smarter ones, right.
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>>86879099
>scientists support big bang theories
>the post-big bang inflation created space
>"science posits there always was space"
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>>86879234
>Atheist
>Calling anyone a sheep
My sides
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>>86879000

And laws often break. On one scale the laws work, on another they do not.

I'm sure one day someone will prove that thermodynamic laws are flawed when faced with black holes or anything that destroys matter/energy.
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>>86879291
what are they left with*
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>>86879259
No, and neither does not believing in god.
If you want someone else to tell you what the rules are, hire a dominatrix.
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>>86879285
>What is the big bang theory
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>>86870378
>God must be made of the same materials that the universe is made out of

Only an idiot would think that "what created God" is a valid response. God, being the creator, would be of spiritual and extra-dimensional materials that did not need this universe or dimension to exist.
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>>86879214
>An atheist who says that nothing exploded into everything or that the universe just always existed is using as much faith as a Christian.
Those are just hypotheses, no one really knows.

In the end it's a matter of plausability, the Big Bang theory is a hypothesis that is supported by some evidence, it might be true or not, who knows.
God doesn't really have any evidence like that, the strongest argument people give is the "things can't just poof out of nothingness" which is not an argument to begin with.
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>>86879296
They also say the big bang created time. Time and space are linked. It's called spacetime for a reason. If the universe and time have the same beginning then there is literally no time in which the universe didn't exist. Therefore the universe has always existed.
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>>86879337
What is your purpose in life then?
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>>86879337
>atheist suggested replacing the Almighty with a degenerate sex partner
I'd kill you with my bare hands if I could find you and had the upper body strength
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>>86860906
>>86869754
>/pol/ jokes about black cocks and cuckoldry
>HAHAHAHA HILARIOUS COMEDY GOLD HAHAHA XD
>someone else jokes about interracial cuckoldry
>THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE FILTH, CAN'T BELIEVE HOW DISTASTEFUL THIS IS
wow you guys are really jealous and possessive over black cock huh?
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>>86879418
Biologically speaking fathering children.
But you can make what you want from your life, that's what rational thought is capable of.
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>>86879303
>blindly following the religion of your parents which they blindly followed from generation upon generation of fucking sheep who all got it from some jewish peasants
CHRISTIANS EVEN CALL THEMSELVES SHEEP
They talk about how they're a flock and shit.
It's the most sheep thing you can be.
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>>86879285
>nothing in science says

Science doesn't say jack shit. People study science and come to their own conclusions.

Spoiler alert: most scientists can't even reproduce studies.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.com/news/amp/science-environment-39054778
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>>86879442
>being jealous of niggers

Fuck off, nigger.
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>>86879346
the big bang theory says nothing about what, if anything, existed prior to the big bang
it can't
our physics breaks down at a singularity
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>>86879483
you're the one who gets butthurt when anyone steals your cuck jokes

really boils the ol noggin cabbage
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>>86879449
>my purpose in life is to father children.
>God commands us to spread His kingdoms and multiply across the Earth

I don't see how these two things contradict each other.
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>>86879413
*The universe has existed as long as time has existed
ftfy
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>>86879418
I make my own purpose. That changes over time. Right now my purpose is to call you a faggot.
But more generally my purpose is having a good time and working towards a better tomorrow.
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>>86879463
Yes yes tribbly tradition is awful, why can't everyone be a sharp dressed hedonistic nihilist like yourself? A whole society raised on nothing mattering except your own personal desires, sounds constructive.
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>>86879536
They fucking don't, which is my point.
You don't need God to find purpose in life, it's a needless abstraction, and in my opinion and exceedingly inelegant one.
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>>86879407

> nothing can be eternal and/or infinite! we need a prime mover! therefore god!
> okay then who created god?
> hurr god doesn't need a creator! he's eternal and infinite!

You're fucking retarded.
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>>86879544
Yes there are many ways of saying the same thing.
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>>86879517
cuckoldry is funny when it includes all but niggers, because blacked is getting out of hand unironically. It's like laughing at white cops getting killed by niggers because le mad whitebois.
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Why does /pol/ constantly post about niggerdick but get butthurt when other people joke about it?

What's /pol/'s endgame here?
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>>86879611
>he can't understand the difference between "has always existed" (unconditional) and "has existed as long as time has existed" (conditional)
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>>86879577
OR, no matter what thing you do in life, if it's positive, it's God directing your life. All positivity comes from God. When an atheists loves his spouse, it's love from God that is flowing through them.
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>>86879575
tribbly?
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>>86879600
The universe isn't infinite. It had a beginning. God is infinite. Therefor He wouldn't need a beginning.

Learn the difference between infinite and finite, please.
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>>86879577
And why do YOU need to tear someone elses form of happiness down if it doesn't matter either way?

If they're not hurting people then why be a dickhole and attempt to take away someones form of comfort?

I swear atheists are fucking blind. They're like a kid who break a kids toy for no reason, then acts surprised when everyone hates them.
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>>86879628
You """"people"""" joke about my wife's son literally all the time but if someone else makes a joke about cuckoldry you go apeshit and sperg out about degeneracy

why is that? Are you guys like hipster cucks or something?
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>>86879600
>what is the difference between conditional and unconditional existence
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>>86879661
There isn't a difference.
Something that has always existed is something that exists in every point of time up to now.
If something has existed for all time, it has always existed.
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>>86878857
America is a secular society. Religion holds no power.
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God is so abstract that it's retarded to think of him as something that had a beginning. Can you imagine infinity? No? Then shut the fuck up, because it's pointless.
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>>86879749
>And why do YOU need to tear someone elses form of happiness down if it doesn't matter either way?
Yeah I guess we're going to allow people to cut off their dicks and start calling themselves women, after all, why do we need to tear down their happiness?

If you're wrong you're wrong, just because your lie makes your happy it doesn't make any more correct.
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>>86879463
>sheep as a metaphor had the same meaning 2000 years ago as it does today
>what is context
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>>86879766
Only if you assume that nothing can exist before time starts.
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>>86879807
Religion holds plenty of power in America. They can't force their religion on you, but they can enforce many of its rules on you.
That's why sodomy laws didn't get repealed until 2003. It was illegal to suck a dick in South Carolina on 9/11.
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Can someone explain how /pol/ can make cuck jokes but then turn around and claim to be triggered by them when they come from a popular adult swim cartoon?

I'm really not following their worldview here.
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>>86879600
Nothing natural (existed solely within the natural world we exist in) can be eternal.
God isn't natural
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>>86879940
/pol/'s cuck jokes was mocking what an abhorrent practice it is while while the cartoon is making light was what an abhorrent practice it is.
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>>86879906
Define the word "Always" without referring to time.
Actually I'll save you the trouble.
You can't. Always literally means "for all time".
I'm right by definition.
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>>86879868
So you admit its purely a ego dick stroking thing for fedoras? I mean I know it is, it'd be nice for a confession though.
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>>86879814
Less abstract than "lol everything exploded for no reason"
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>>86880053
>So you admit its purely a ego dick stroking thing for fedoras?
No?
I don't give a damn about you people, but if I'm having a discussion I'm not going to agree with you just so I don't hurt your feelings.
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>>86860630
>tried watching first 4 episodes
>literally autistic tier humor with mumbling and DUDE DRINKING LOL
>literally didn't laugh once
>stoner-level shit tier comedy

Into the trash it went.
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>>86880127
If by "everything exploded for no reason" you mean "the universe expanded and has continued to expand for reasons we don't understand yet". Probably has something to do with dark energy.
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The show is an unfunny abomination that relies on "weird" humor like everything else made by Juden.
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>>86878118
>Stay in the hell of your choice for the rest of your miserable existence, but have the decency to not drag others down with you.

So you believe in your religion because of the fear of hell?
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>>86880187
>dark energy
The absolute STATE of atheism.
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>>86880045
See, when you start talking about metaphysical (although supernatural might be a better word) things, like a being existing before time began, language gets a bit strained since we didn't build language with supernatural or metaphysical discussion in mind.
If you're not willing to move beyond naturalism, there's no point in any of this.
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>>86870302
Fucking this frankly there are fucking millions of other deities, spirits, and shit out there from now and history and prehistory some of them hundreds of thousands or more years older than the one that's pretty popular in America right and a fuckton of them make more sense or have more evidence, why the fuck would it be that one random pleb spirit? There's literally no reason.
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>>86880246
No retard he means keep your meaningless existence to yourself. Atheists spreading unhappiness to suck off their inflated ego is why everyone hates them.
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>>86880336
>Odin
>more evidence or sense
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Whether any religion is real or not is irrelevant as long as it gives society a higher purpose to aspire to.
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Why does this show always get so many replies?
I've seen some of it and it's nothing special.
So what's the deal here?
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>>86879964
>>86879700
>>86879755

How the fuck do you even know the universe isn't eternal and infinite? You believe in various gods with no evidence so maybe the universe is eternal and infinite too. Even the Big Bang theory doesn't say the universe isn't eternal or infinite anyway. It's only about this particular cluster of matter that we happen to know but it could be an expansion and compression cycle that lasts literally forever. If god can be infinite and outside time then the multiverse could be and this little cluster or dimension is just a small part. But why the fuck jump to some gods or magical beings and shit? Maybe they're real (and which one? and maybe they're evil or dickheads or they don't care or shouldn't be worshipped if these beings are real) but there's zero evidence so building any shit around it logically is retarded.
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>>86880286
If you're not willing to use the same english language as me, there's no point in any of this.
If you're going to disagree with something I say, don't do it because you have your own private definitions for words.
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>>86880435
>But why the fuck jump to some gods or magical beings and shit?
dude because look at how everything fits together
there's no way it could all happen by chance xd
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>>86880265
if you can't hear a scientific term without sperging out, maybe religion IS for you
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>>86880417
Call me crazy, but I care if the things I believe are true or not. I don't want to believe false things.
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>>86880495
It was a joke you faggot.
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>>86880495
>Dude, I fucking LOVE science!
>[insert galaxy photo with hawking caption]
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>>86880246
Oh, sorry, I meant "the hell of your own making".
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>>86880415
It frankly is. The Norse posited a pretty bleak universe where bad things happened for no reason and most were ultimately doomed, but the point was the always keep fighting, and to try. Odin sacrificed his eye for knowledge as a weapon against the dark.

For the Greeks and Romans, bad things happened to good people because a lot of the gods were dicks. They didn't like each other. The chaos and conflict of nature made more sense under those ideas. There weren't nearly so many internal contradictions.

The judeo christian crap constantly contradicts itself because it was written by a fuckton of different people who often didn't like each other or their ideas and disagreed with each other over a lot of time but unlike some other spiritualities didn't allow for contradictions but just said anyone who disagreed with each of them was a lying liar and often killed and tortured the fuck out of each other out of minor disagreements and they fought over money and power. Now look some people and groups were decent or even really good people but that one particular belief system is kind of a fucking mess, some bits of Shinto and Buddism are preferable.
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>>86880545
But god isn't false
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>>86880545
>I care if the things I believe are true or not
Are you one of the people ITT saying to fill the void of religion with your own meaning? What difference does it make?
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>>86880600
You can't prove that.
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>>86880435
The universe cannot be either infinite or eternal.
It's not infinite because there can be no actual infinities in nature.
It not being eternal is more complicated. We know the universe is expanding. We also strongly believe the universe is "flat" meaning it will continue to expand forever. If the universe is getting bigger continually, at some point it must have had 0 size. Before that 0 size point, it couldn't exist. And since the universe will never stop expanding, it cannot go through cycles of expansion and contraction, the so-called "big crunch"/"big bang' cycle.
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>>86880582
The Norse weren't such emo faggots. Yes, the world was ultimately doomed but from the ashes a new golden age would flourish and the cycle would begin anew.
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>>86880645
You also can't prove that he is.
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>>86880629
I'm not that guy but you can believe whatever the fuck you want. Believe that Hermione from Harry Potter created the universe. That's fine. Just don't force others to pretend to believe it under threat of violent or build policy around a story. Religion is fine but it must stay the fuck out of politics and stop shitting all over science. There's no need for that. I would probably pick animism or some shit if I just wanted to build a moral system or a social system around anyway, today's big monotheisms are hedonistic violent shit beliefs that some people manage to extract the good bits out of and do good from, but the stories themselves have a lot of stupid shit or even deeply immoral and depraved to the point of sheer evil (you should murder your friends if they do work on Sunday, you should get your family members drunk and rape them, you should force abortions on women and cut fetuses out of people's wombs and other evil awful shit).
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>>86880449
The issue here is that you won't accept anything happening outside of nature. When I hear "always existed" when discussing origins of reality, I hear "exists regardless of time's existence" because without that, there is literally no way to talk about something potentially existing outside of time.
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>>86880727
Then I'll stick with the default hypothesis that he doesn't exist until some evidence appears that he does, of which there is none

The only logical alternative is to believe everything that can't be proved not to exist. Including brand new things anyone can make up at any times. Including contradictory things. I use the word "logical" quite wrongly.
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>>86880582
You have no understanding of any religion. Every religion cultivates the notion that if you don't keep to the implicit rules of society, bad things will happen as a result i.e. sinning. Punishment from the gods often manifesting in disasters or calamities. You think that Judeo-Christian religions are full of contradictions? Despite the fact that they were curated by a committee? Somebody would have noticed any contradictory dogmas. You're just full of shit. Another resentful atheist child. Get yourself sorted m8.
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>>86880435
>How do you know the universe isn't infinite
Because, and I quite many atheists, science tells us that it started. Everything that has a beginning also has an end. Whatever begins and ends isn't infinite.

>But why jump the shark to magical beings and shit
God isn't a magical being. He is an extra-dimensional being. Of course, being that we're human we cannot fully grasp the scope of a being that resides in a dimsenion beyond ours.

>Why? There's no proof
There's 1) The accounts of Jesus' life, birth, trial, life events, death. These are backed up by historical scholars. 2) Over 40 prophecies mentioned these hundreds of years before Jesus was born.
Add 1+2 and you get 3.

Not to mention that many kings, kingdoms, lineages, etc. from bible have been located in archeology or non-biblical writings.
People who were with Jesus saw him before he was killed. Those who saw him after the resurrection vouched that they saw him. Anyone who vouched for this was killed on the spot so why would they lie? They would have all had to experience a crazy event to give all their lives for something that they would certainly know is either true or false. Even Jesus' brother, James, doubted Jesus but became a believer after the resurrection and devoted his life to it. He would have known if the resurrection didn't happen. People don't become devoted to a belief that they would know is false. He had to have actually seen Jesus to lose his double and commit the rest of life to the belief.
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>>86880655
People in this thread are saying "lol well we can't understand everything so maybe there's a god" so maybe those ideas are wrong and natural indignities do exist. It seems more likely since it doesn't throw in big other baseless complicated things and shit.

I don't think we know everything about the universe. We could be a computer simulations in which case the programmers might be "god," or we could be something we really can't conceives of. But taking just one of countless ideas people thought up thousands of years ago and going "whelp that's it randomly this one is the right one out of countless ideas because ????" is just retarded. I think the truth is more likely to be something no one has thought of yet and that we probably can't understand right now. We're probably missing a lot of information.
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>>86880817
>some evidence appears that he does
Plenty of evidence in the Bible, nature and the experiences of people today.
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>>86880847
>Every religion

Religions and spiritualities had a lot of variety. Sometimes, Zeus punished people for good reason. Sometimes, he raped people just to get his jollies. Or some other shallow shit. Take the Trojan war. Paris said one goddess was prettier than another goddess. Did all the Trojans deserve to die and Troy to fall because of that? Not really. Hera and Athena really should have just sucked it up. But they were petty even though yes they did do the poetic justice thing at times too. Sometimes they were just dicks. Mesopotamian, Egyptian, etc. and countless other gods did the same. They could be just or they could be dicks.

Jews and Christians often disagreed with each other and a lot of old stories got cut from various editions of their books while other new ones were added.
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>>86880990
>bible
>evidence
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>>86881034
>I wonder if an all powerful God exists. Hopefully I can find evidence
>here's a book full of miracles the all powerful God did
>miracles can't happen!
>why not
>???
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>>86880817
Atheism is unprovable, though.
Atheism involves a universal negative and you can't prove a universal negative.
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>>86880884

So why are all the other religions with holy texts and historical figures backed up by historical scholars suddenly bullshit while second hand account of this one example are so true? Also, look. There's incredibly scant evidence of a historical Jesus. But even if there is one or a bunch, that's like proving L. Ron Hubbard existed. It doesn't prove any of the shit they said had any merit.

You can't appeal to empirical evidence and science here since there's no evidence that any person who claimed a bunch of shit over all of recorded history had it based on anything. I do think we don't understand everything but you're being intellectually dishonest by claiming jumping to this random thing makes any fucking sense. The Epic of Gilgamesh is older and the stories that got into the bible probably came from it (in the flood story case) so I'll just go with the original historical figures and older documents and worship the Mesopotamian gods then. They've been around for so much longer.
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>>86881002
Like I said, you are a clueless angry child.
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>>86880812
Accepting something outside of nature is self-contradictory. If it exists, it's part of nature.
Don't try to make me believe in things outside of nature. Try to make me expand what I think the natural world is to include your thing.

The idea of something existing without occupying space or time makes no sense to me symantically. Every phrase we have for something always existing or never existing refers to time. Even if I could accept it, without space the thing can have no structure. Without time the thing can take no actions. How am I supposed to imagine a thing without structure or action? Without nouns, adjectives, or verbs?

And the only thing I can think to fall back on when language fails is mathematics. And if you had some mathematical explanation for something existing outside of spacetime you'd be too busy collecting your nobel prize to tell me about it.
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>>86881034
Many scientists use the Bible for cultural and regional history of that time period due to it being correct about events and people of the time. The only thing you can't prove from the Bible is the metaphysical, which is because it's metaphysical.
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>>86881097

Such solid evidence.
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>>86881181
>no arguments in sight
Well, why is the Bible not reliable evidence?
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>>86881121
Atheism isn't the statement that god doesn't exist.
Atheism is lack of belief that a god does exist.
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>>86881177
Same with the Rig Veda, lots of others books from other faiths, and tons more like the oral myths of the Aboriginal Australians whose stories were found later to accurately describe historical events even tens of thousands of years ago like the volcanic eruption of Kinrara. It doesn't give them any special place about the countless other spiritualities. It might mean that oral and written histories preserved some things about history, that's all, which seems pretty obvious.
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>>86881257
Because there's a story in there about it raining bread in the desert for 50 years.
Really makes you think.
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>>86880790
so you believe in eugenics, i mean if religion/ fake morals should stop shitting on science and all that
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>>86881139
>why do historical scholars back up other religions.
They don't. There are only 4 religions that have historical scholars behind it. Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

>Buddhism
Historical scholars agree that Siddhartha did exist in around the time period that he is stated to have lived and that the events of his life match.

>Judaism
The early kingdoms, battles, Israel, etc. are backed by historical scholars

>Islam
Historical scholars believe that Muhammad did exist. Islam teaches that Jesus wasn't ordered by Pilate to be crucified which is contradictory to historical scholars, though.

>Christianity
Look at the stuff under Judaism. Jesus' life events, birth, trial, death.

So to sum it all down, Siddhartha lived, Muhammad lived, the events of the Old Testament happened, and Jesus' events happened. Siddhartha living doesn't change Jesus being the messiah. Islam being wrong about Jesus speaks for itself. You still have over 40 prophecies that mentioned Jesus' life events. Do the mathematical odds on those prophecies being correct by chance.
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>>86881257
It's no more evidence than the Ramayana, the Illiad, or recorded Celtic myths are of anything. Or countless other religious texts and stories from countless cultures, places, and people over thousands of years.
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>>86881335
Jesus's events are the only events in history to have happened while fulfilling over 40 prophecies written centuries before the person was born.
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>>86881361
If you want to complain about eugenics you might want to avoid the religion of Hitler.
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>>86881404
>>86881355
>miracles can't be real
>why
>because they can't be real
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>"Events caused by God couldn't have happened because if they were caused by anything other than God, they wouldn't be possible"
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>>86881465
who's complaining about eugenics?
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>>86865934
Weird how a religion that's "a shield for betas" and "only good for subjugating masses" somehow managed to make powerful, strong, Thor worshipping Norsemen into a bunch of cowed little pussies afraid to die?

Nigger wouldn't Odin take you up to Valhalla if you died in battle, why would you fear death?

This is such a weird point.
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>>86881396
>There are only 4 religions that have historical scholars behind it.

I already mentioned the eruption of Kinrara from Australian Aboriginal myths above as an event in their stories that archeological evidence actually backed up (in a way, that's better than events in some of those other religions' texts that evidence eventually disproved). That's just one of many examples. Plenty of other stores and account from other cultures, oral or otherwise also (seem) to have a historical basis. Or they might. Remember that even with figures like Socrates or Homer we can no longer be certain they existed (see also the debate about King Arthur). Record keeping wasn't very good back then and myths were enshrined into history while so many actual historical figures were lost or forgotten. There may have been a Jesus but once you get outside that one faith there aren't many accounts so it's hard to say for sure, the same with the other figures you mentioned. Most historians consider that difficult to determine for certain in many cases, many things that were once accepted history are later determined to have been invented, take little bits like Paul Revere and the cherry tree and Washington, and that's so recent compared to what happened thousands of years ago, yet already littered with myths and inaccuracies.
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>>86860922
I remember when all of 4chan was pro atheist but now because much reeeddit is also pro atheist they have to be """"""""religious""""""""
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>>86881623
>Nigger wouldn't Odin take you up to Valhalla if you died in battle, why would you fear death?

Maybe because a ton of people died of lots of other things besides battle so the idea of getting to go to some heaven even if you got sick, old, accident, drowning, or whatever was just more comforting so when they heard that idea it was more popular? Things pass around by memes and fads doesn't mean each fad or trend is superior to the last.

Bullshit anyway since you can have gods and no afterlife or an afterlife and no gods.
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>>86881708
So many newfags around saying 4chan was never atheist, sad
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>>86881465
Most of the more known monotheisms today have such shitty excuses for "morals" anyway. But I'm a secular humanist (as baseless as anything) and thing we should avoid human suffering. So I'm actually not against eugenics. I'm against killing people that's for damn sure. I think the best practical option for eugenics is genetic engineering that doesn't involved hurting anyway. It's not perfect but I think it's a path for the future yes. They've just made some strides in it recently.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/08/02/first-human-embryo-editing-experiment-in-u-s-corrects-gene-for-heart-condition/?utm_term=.e2ed241104e0
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>>86881451
That's a circular argument as shit since he only fulfilled shit if you think that one guy was divine which there's no evidence of. Tons of spiritualities have had prophecies that people later claimed were fulfilled, anyone can say that. I get there's no point in arguing with people who belong to the thousands of different beliefs (millions?) on earth though in many cases because you're locked into whatever your little particular set is and will just rationalize and justify everything no matter what. That's fine, but have some respect for each other and those who don't agree with any of you by not stepping on each other's toes, that's all. They believe things just as much as you do, with just as many arguments, are just as sure and invested. Live and let live I guess.
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>>86881714

I didn't say anything about superiority, I'm not the anon the anon I was replying to was replying to. That said, I'll be up front about my biases, I'm an Orthodox christfag.

With what you're saying, the Norsemen became Christians because Christianity offered a more robust incentive model for participation in the faiths and in its sacraments, something that was more appealing than the Norse way to its old followers. That's quite a bit different from "you'd be murdered if you didn't convert" in my original reply. I can really buy your argument especially by the Scandinavian race's behavior since that point, where they adopted looser and looser interpretations of Christianity (Early Christianity -> Catholicism -> Lutheranism -> modern era whittled down to secular LGBTQ Muslim non-gender progressivism.

I don't agree with the your last comment, but I'm not gonna argue about it.

My initial comment is only pointing out that a lot of neopagans tend to dismiss Christianity as a pussy religion for betas and cucks out one side of their mouth, and then bitch about being oppressed and genocided and forced to convert by the mean Christians. Sorry your might makes right pagan tradition of power and strength was less mighty than my pussy beta cuck religion idk what to say
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>>86882122
Well, see, I don't agree with any of that. I can understand why a religion that says you don't need to bleed to death in battle for any decent shake at the afterlife would be more appealing than one that says you're screwed if you're not that "lucky" and why reasonable people would switch. I just don't think that's an argument for one one is more "true" than the other. Just why different people might like one more than the other (if you're about to go into battle for example it might be more reassuring to think this really is your only shot, comforting to know this is what Odin says you just have to do, but vice verse if you're dying of the plague).
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