God's not dead thread #2

>>86849678
Never existed in the first place
there is literally no objective proof of otherwise, and believing without evidence is literal retardation

Why are all Christian "" "" "prophecies" "" "" " shit?

>>86849678
Is it butthurt christfags who make these threads and try to false flag Kato as dumb Atheists with YouTube-tier responses?

>>86850080
*larp not kato

>>86850028
Because they are retroactive prophecies stated after the fact.

>>86849795
There is no such thing as objective morality. Every human's interpretation of morals is purely subjective, whether they adhere to morals outlined in a religious text or not

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I will just say that I find this christian narrative of atheists being "rebellious" or "a phase" humorous, when we currently are on a site where a good majority of self-proclaimed "christians" are deus-vult larper that wear their faith as an accessory to their political beliefs, and are in fact the one rebelling against their perception of modern liberal society.

God is good :)

>>86850220
>arguments are so weak that you resort to Facebook memes.

>>86850233
Facebook memes are the bread and butter of the god/no god debates

>>86850281
I mean, if you want to live in a delusional fantasy where there isn't a single intelligent atheist with a strong argument, then sure.

Who would win im a fistfight, Jesus, Buddha or Muhammad?
Hindu dieties don't count simce they all got like 6 arms.

>>86850233
>argument so weak
>talks about the origin of the picture instead of actually refuting the claims of the picture

Typical modern day atheist.

>>86850322
I imagine muhammad, being a warlord and all

>>86850331
>refute a bunch of retarded strawmen about complex arguments dumbed down into goofy Facebook meme quotes please
Fuck off.

>>86850392
If you can't refute the claims at least be honest about it, the fact that you're sweating and mentioning facebook and memes like they mean anything is amusing to me, it just proves my point even more.

>>86850220
>there was nothing
Probably correct
>nothing happened
Well obviously something did happen? Never heard somebody saying nothing happened
>for no reason
It obviously had a cause, we just dont know what (yet?). Because physics happen doesnt mean there is a will behind everything.
>magically
Its called physics
>magically
See above
>for no reason
See above

Why wouldnt it make sense. Because we dont know things doesnt mean they have a supernatural explanation.

>>86849678
Why do white adults in 2017 believe in millenia old sandnigger fairy tales about goatfucking and angry sky wizards?

>>86850431
If you honestly think anything in that picture was an argument, you either need to get your goofy brain checked or grow the fuck up. No atheist or agnostic thinks nothing created something and then magically, dinosaurs happened you retarded faggot. It's a collection of strawmen written by a literal 13 year old.

>>86849678
/pol/s favourite movies

>>86850480
Because their parents told them so

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>>86849773
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>>86849678
Keep up the good work my fellow 'Pedes. We will btfo these atheist libcucks and MAGA. SHADILAY AND ONWARD TO KEKISTAN!!!

>>86850601
Ah yes, the facebook memes didn't stick. Better whip out the fedora memes! A bit early for that, don't you think?

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Well /tv/?

>>86849728
>the way you were just repeating the same sentence and then shouting it is textbook sperging out but ok
>>86849697
Not an argument at all my man

>>86849795
being this obtuse
>No, he means it doesn't exist at all even with God

>>86849764
Why you choose to believe something is just as important as what you choose to believe. Why you choose to believe something is essentially.part of what you choose to believe, because it determines the parameters by which you say things are good and bad, e.g God says things are bad, I believe him because he's super smart and knows what's best for me, so I'll follow what he says. So, what you believe is intrinsically tied to why you believe it, and if you believe it for subjective reasons it's not objective.

>>86850601
>le hatman
No one reply to him

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>>86850631
>>86850643

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Woah...

>>86850637
>>86850666
Wtf I'm a #ChristCrusader now

>>86850637
Inanimate objects can't mate

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really makes you think

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incredible

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>>86850691
>agnostic "scientist"
>opening statement is proving a negative
Who falls for this shit?

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ATHIESTS BTFO

>>86850461
We don't know how it works therefore god did it, like with literally everything since we were cavemen
Why do you think people prayed for rain

>>86850691
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>>86850774
>literally FB memes

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>>86850803
SHOO SHOO ATHEIST
THIS IS CHRIST COUNTRY

>>86850774
>Christians tell the truth
Boy oh boy

YOU ARE ALL BRAINWASHED BY THE KIKE MEDIA..
STEP1: DEMORALIZE A NATION. TAKE AWAY GOD, PUT IN EVALUATION. GIVE GAY RIGHTS.
STEP 2 DESTABILIZE THE NATION. IMMIGRATION, SOCIALISM / MARXISM
STEP3. CRISES / ECONOMY CRASH
STEP4 WE GET POOR THEY GET WEALTHY.
WE BECOME SLAVES THEY BECOME MASTERS....

This isn't thread #2, you arrogant ass, there's no set continuity. It's just a thread. There have been lots of threads on this shitty documentary.

>>86850866
I don't know which one to believe

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>>86849773
>>86850028
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>>86850742
>>>/r/atheism

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>>86850946
Choose the one who doesn't believe in the evils of subjective morality

>>86849678
You should really link the old thread
>>86843177

>>86851021
>sometimes there are evil people who make bad drcisions
>WTF, this must mean that subjectively is inherently bad!

>>86851021
Yes, if only he had Jesus to sort him out! Then he wouldn't have killed those millions of people. It's as simple as that.

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>>86851067
I agree, amen

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>>86851050
>>86851067

I'm not an alcoholic, I have a demon inside me.
I don't need to quit because I have jesus in my heart

>>86851173
Why are you larping this hard and obvious?

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>>86851227

>>86851202
Is that from true blood?

>>86851256
>entire ideology is obvious bullshit
>only defense is an eight year old meme
I guess if that's all ya got, keep it up.

What the actual fuck is this thread?
Have we drank too much of the meme punch and gone full circle where we repost Facebook memes unironically?

>>86852062
Can you prove god isn't real?

>>86850866


John Lennon is dead.

Did he resurrected?

>>86852382
Nope so I guess he must be real. Case closed! You're just too smart for me.

>>86852382
>proving a negative meme

>>86852564
>>86852626
There is proof that he is.

>>86852637
>There is proof that he is.
There isn't, friendo.

>>86849678
God does not exist. Also in breaking news, santa and the easter bunny aren't real. Sorry to hurt your feelings, children.

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>>86852637
>there is proof that he's real
>but I decline to tell you what it is
This is your argument? If you wonder why people don't believe in your silly floating sky creature myth, you shouldn't.

You are literally a brainlet if you aren't agnostic

>>86852768
You are literally a brainlet if you aren't agnostic atheist. Which is the master race.

>>86852694
>>86852755
The proof of his existence is the bible and life in general.

>>86852841
Lol good one.

>>86852783
No arguments here

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

>>86852911
Is BvS your favorite movie?

>>86852841
This gave me a belly laugh, not kdding. Thanks buddy.

>>86852911
very deep.

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>>86849773
This

Invalid refutations that will or have appeared in this thread are; fedora memes, bible quotes, appeals to return to reddit, petty insults and banana design being perfect for hands kirk cameron nonsense.

The challenge has been presented, you know what won't fly as a reasonable counter argument, your move theists.

>>86852911
>The greatest trick the tooth fairy ever pulled was convincing the world she didn't exist.

Wow I guess the tooth fairy is real, huh? Mental munchkin.

>We know the bible is real because it says so in the bible
>Also things exist and the bible says things exist so it must be true
You really can't make this up

le moral guide stories arent real hehuehuhe me so smarts.

>>86853346
>God tells Abraham to stab his son to death
>Drags him to a mountaintop and gets ready to slice him up
>lol jk it was just a prank bro I just wanted to see if you would!
If it's a "moral guide" then it's a stupid one.

i doing really think that believing in some sort of higher power that made the universe is that ridiculous really, but believing in one specific religion is idiotic I think. why is your religion true and the thousands of other religions aren't, especially when none of them have any proof or scientific legitimacy backing them up. yes the big bang theory
doesn't explain everything, but its the one answer we have with some actual real world logic behind it

God exists anons. He's constantly with you because a part of him lives within yourself, inside all of us.

I once got a message on my phone saying "GOD IS DEAD" but I didn't know who it was from and was too lazy to ask.

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>The year is 2017
>People still believe in (any) God

LITERALLY

NO

FUCKING

PROOFS

>>86853484
>god is everything
>god is everyone
>god is love
It's interesting how god can just be anything you want him to be just because you say so. Almost as if he was just an extension of human imagination.

>>86853597
no proofs of God not existing either
atheists believe as much as theist
both are retarded, atheists just a bit more

I can't prove God exists but I'm okay with the whole "love each other" philosophy. Do atheists just need an excuse to be evil without guilt? Why do they hate Christians so much? Is it because they agree with a man that called the world to "love each other"?

>>86853597
THE BIBLE
IT SAYS RIGHT IN IT IT'S REAL
DUH

>>86853634
t. agnostic

>>86853646
>love each other
>but if you don't believe in me I will send you to hell to burn for all eternity
This is an interesting version of love you have

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>>86849678
>Atheists worship the Big Bang Theory
>A LITERAL CATHOLIC PRIEST invented the Big Bang Theory

Atheistcucks, you can't make this shit up.

>>86853634
I can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist, so I guess someone who believes he exists and someone who doesn't are equally right.

>>86853690
Not believing in him is not loving each other. The way you love God is by loving people.
And also Hell is simply a place without God, sounds perfect for atheists. You make it sound like it's an eternal torture, do you suddenly love and want to be with this being you don't believe in?

>>86853711
>I can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist
>Being this retarded
Atheistcucks, everyone!

>>86853724
That's not what the bible says but hey who cares, you guys just pull whatever nonsense out of your ass. We all know it's bullshit anyway so why not!

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>>86852841

>>86853777
You wouldn't know, you never read the Bible. That IS what it says, for your information.

>>86853802
I have read it cover to cover. My father was a pastor of a church.
None of you Christians even read your own book. If you did you might notice how fucking retarded it is. I recommend it.

>>86849678
So what will God's Not Dead 3 be about?

>>86853825
Your pastor was probably a con man that said random shit to attract people.

>>86853746
Prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist.
If you can't, then he's just as real as Jebus.

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>>86853825
>He only read the fucking covers
Atheistcucks, they never cease to amaze.

>>86853865
>implying any of them aren't

>>86849678
if god is all powerful, could god make a brap so pungent that not even god could sniff it?

>>86853825
You probably read it taking everything literally or without knowing what to make out of it.

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>>86853890

>>86853851
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR80OfnYG14
Given this post-credits scene, it will probably be about the Priest being put on trial for disobeying the government's subpoena to give up the transcripts of his sermons for "review". This is of course part of an unrealistic evil plot by the guvmint and the ACLU to dictate what priests can preach, all for the sake of making American christians think they're persecuted.

>>86853928
Yes. If he's all powerful, he can bend reality.

>>86853851
God's Not Dead 3: Seriously Guys He's Really Really Real For Reals!

>>86853634
flying spaghetti monster

>>86853949
>David Hill?
>Yes?
>You're under arrest
>for what?
>Child abuse

>>86853865
>>86853929
>all this moving the goalpost
>y..you just read it wrong
pathetic

>>86853949
They should raise the stakes by having this go all the way to the Supreme Court. Perfect way to end the trilogy. Unless of course they want to keep miling it since these movies are cheap and gullible fundies that want to believe that they're opressed will pay money to see them.

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>>86849678
>Atheists claim God isn't real
>Also get genuinely angry at him about kids with cancer
Why are atheists so retarded?

>>86853960
>this statement
If you bend reality then the bending is reality too. There's nothing outside of reality. It's like saying God is supernatural, meaning he's not part of nature. But everything that's real is part of nature. If you're saying God is outside of reality, I agree.

>>86854069
>I can't argue any actual points so I just made up a strawman so I can feel better

>>86854106
Just answer his question, faggot. Or are you so stupid you can't have more than one discussion at a time?
>>86854045
>using greentext because you have no arguments
Pathetic.

>>86854106
>Strawman
https://youtu.be/-suvkwNYSQo?t=17

>>86853949
Don't forget that the end credits will include a bunch of court cases the movie is supposedly based on but if you actually look them up none of them have anything to do with the movie and almost none of them are real examples of christians being opressed.

>>86854163
>>86854178
>please have an argument about something I can win because I keep losing all the other arguments!
Nah I'm good, stay mad
Anyway I'm going to scary burny hell and you're going to magical fluffy heaven right so what do you care?

>>86854283
>Come into atheist thread, and ask why Atheists act a certain way
>Atheistcuck refuses to answer, gets butthurt, then calls me mad
I guess I'll never know why Stephen Fry shakes in anger and outrage against God when he doesn't even think he exists.

>>86854163
>using greentext because you have no arguments
as opposed to your argument of "your pastor father was probably a conman" or "You just read the bible wrong, you didn't understand it right"
You are fucking retarded anon and I'm not even the guy you were arguing with

Holy shit, this is the most reddit thread I have ever seen on /tv/. Fuck this board.

>>86854331
>please have a totally different argument with me pleeeeeease!
Nah. God still isn't real and you're still mad. Cry moar.

>>86854264
>Ahahaha, dumb Americans, no Christians are being persecuted
>What's that, thousands are persectued every year in other countries simply for their faith? Well, my usually endless compassion has suddenly run out.

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>>86854334
>not that anon but
>actually am that anon

>>86854347
How do you know so much about what goes on on reddit?

>>86854348
Its a 4chan thread you fucking reddit retard, not a private conversation. I posited a question to everyone in the thread not just you, then you got butthurt because you didn't want to give an answer.
If you're that sensitive, don't fucking reply to me in the first place.

>>86854383
Not him, but being an atheist is pretty reddit.

>>86853949
>all for the sake of making American christians think they're persecuted
well they are. maybe not to the extent some of them think, but they are and it's disingenuous to say otherwise.

>>86854365
You're missing the point. American Christians in America aren't being opressed, but many of them love to pretend they are and constantly seek out validation for their persecution complex.
Why isn't PureFlix making a movie about christians being opressed in all those other countries where they're actually being persecuted?

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>>86854380
>God doesn't exist
>God actually does exist

>>86854449
You only think this if you're new to 4chan. Welcome to the site.

>>86854457
Because they're pure flix, and that would be a kino. Jesus Christ, its in the fucking name you atheistcuck.

>>86854452
How are christians in America being persecuted when the majority of the population is christian?

>>86854482
>not being a contrarian just for the heck of it
You need to go back.

>>86850691
>"our universe is fined tuned for life"
But it isn't? Earth is, but the universe is pretty fucking brutal and barren for the most part. There are probably other life-sustaining worlds, but I mean even within the local system for there to be only one living world is pretty rare.

>>86854482
4chan is a christian website, get over it.

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>>86854482
t. Reddit.

God does not exist, Life is meaningless. But most people cannot brace this concept, they need a why to control themselves. It´s better to leave them thinking they will be rewarded in afterlife

>>86850322
Buddha. He has eight arms.

>>86854492
>logical fallacy question

you forgot to add "checkmate" or something equally stupid.

>>86854411
>ragetyping

>>86854529
I don't think god not existing makes life meaningless. It's just as meaningful with or without some super-powerful alien, it has no bearing on meaning. Buddhists talk about the impermanence of all things but they don't say that the impermanence makes things meaningless.

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>>86854568
>Reddit refugee doesn't know how to greentext
Colour me surpised.

>>86854683
>you seem upset friendo

>>86854529
You can't prove God doesn't exist. You have to say "God probably doesn't exist".
>but that's like saying unicorns might exist
It may be a political correctness thing but you should at least assume that the huge number of people who believe in Him just might be onto something.

>>86852841
you're obviously an atheist neckbeard who wants some attention, which is fine, but you could have come out and just asked as much. I'm here for you dude, for real, I've been there.

>>86854716
>Greentexting wrong AGAIN
Let me guess, next post you'll say you were just pretending, right? You have to go back.

>>86854738
Just as many believe that Jesus wasn't the son of God and Muhammad was His favorite and last messiah...

ITT: Butthurt atheists getting BTFO by arguments they simply can't refute.

>>86854563
Fine, explain to me why you think that Chistians in America are being persecuted and how.

>>86854791
Such as?

>>86854816
Read the thread, you dumb atheist. Or do you not believe 4chan exists?

>Atheists

>>86854841
I read it, I haven't seen any arguments like you describe. Can you tell me which one you think was the strongest?

>>86854776
Correct. I'm a Catholic and I always say "might exist" or "probably exists" or "could be right".
Please help me I think I'm going insane

>>86854875
t. brainlet

It's not really a surprise that an atheist can't read and comprehend.

American Christians are funny and weird.

>>86854904
Sorry which argument was it that no one can refute? Is there some reason you can't just say what it was

>>86854915
And atheists are depressed social outcasts, your point?

>>86854943
Most Christians and Catholics in my country are often more chill and more "agree to disagree" about things. And they don't act like they are being persecuted, only a few of them are like that. Latin American Christianity is different.
>inb4 3rd world shithole

>>86854922
>The only reason Atheists exist is because they're too dumb to read anything, including the bible
The ABSOLUTE STATE of Atheism.

>>86855005
You said there were arguments in this thread that atheists can't refute, I'm just asking you to name one of them. You keep getting madder and madder and rageposting back instead. Why is that?

>>86855070
>Redditor uses the reddit term rageposting AGAIN
Jesus Christ, don't Atheists know any subtlety?You really have to go back.

>>86855140
I guess I'll just accept your concession then. Let me know if you come up with that irrefutale argument you mentioned before. Good luck with the temper.

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>ameriturd protty shit
haha not even once lads

this is my first thread that hits over 150 posts
im proud of you guys
btw op here

>>86855393
kek
I saw an indie Christian film called Old Fashioned. It was alright. It wasn't preachy and the main character SPOILERS gets btfo by his mom in the end for being too Christian.
Atheists hate it because they think it's just another Christian movie but they either didn't see it or didn't get it.

>>86855393
Some of my Christian friends worship Facing Giants like it's the bible in movie form.

>>86855393
The Ten Commandments was pretty good, though.

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>>86853192
> science has established a bunch of criteria and standards as to prevent it from deriving faulty exclusions from empirical data
> now try applicating those methods to something that by definition transcends them
> kill yourself

pic related; it's you and all other atheist autists who believe they are so smart for sticking to science while every other normal human being understands the scientific method (which is useful for the thing it was designed for) is not equiped to analyze and verify metaphysical concepts

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>consciousness comes from soup and little green men will lead humanity into an age of enlightenment
Why are atheists so funny?

>>86854811
It looks like nobody can give any real examples.

>>86855948
>It's came from nothing

Who made that doesn't know what the big bang is.

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>>86856392
>big bang
Thank pic related.

>>86856392
And the big bang theory came from a priest.

>>86850666
>666
SCIENTIFIC THOUGHT IS SATANI!!!!!

>>86850737
>I don't really have the need to eat pizza rolls
>IF SO, THEN WHY DID YOU EVEN SAY THAT? OBVIOUSLY YOU RECOGNIZE THE SUPERIORITY OF PIZZA ROLLS AND SECRETLY WANT TO EAT THEM

>>86857072
>>86856454
And did he discovered this using the scientific method, or because it was written in a bible?

>>86852382
Yes, "God isn't real." There you go.

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>>86857594
The point is that science and Christianity aren't mutually exclusive, you brainlet.

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Kevin Sorbo is a great actor though

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>>86849678
I like the scene where the voodoo curse make's god's corpse join in the conga line.

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>>86857690
>literally "muh science"
See pic >>86857686
>Hitchens
>The God Delusion
fucking cringe

>>86857594
He came up with the hypothesis based on some scientific evidence discovered by atheists and jews. And then several years later some jews proved it using the scientific method.

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>>86857785
>see pic that is too small to read
ah yes, another quality christcuck """argument"""

>>86857897
It's a good argument when Christian's try to take all the credit for something they only played a small role in.

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>>86857855
>there are lots of weligions in the world!
Never been, is not and never will be a good argument, sorry brainlet.

>>86857940
What the hell are you talking about?

>>86855775
How does this constitute a reply to the quoted post?

>>86857942
>Never been, is not and never will be a good argument, sorry brainlet.
>that picture
Top quality irony, well done

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>>86858066
How can something come from nothing?

>>86857966
>a priest was responsible for the Big Bang theory
>thank a priest for the Big Bang

There was a priest involved. But he played a minor role. Also I seriously doubt Georges Lemaitre would have entered the priesthood if he were a young man today. It was a part of the times. Like Newton and his religious views.

>>86858120
This is an issue for both sides.

Who created God?

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>>86858096
That meme pic isn't my argument, it's just mocking your stupidity, my brainlet friend.

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>>86858169
God is uncreated and eternal by definition.

>>86858120
Which is your favourite God m8? Ares, Helios, Zeus, Ra, Odin, Thor, Loki, any of those?

>>86857942
Do you know what an argument from ignorance is?

>>86858224
>humans invented many gods in an attempt to understand metaphysical realities so God doesn't exist!
hurr

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>>86858184
>yank that still unironically believes the brainwashing he received as a child calling others stupid

>>86858223
>special pleading.

This is a logical fallacy. You're making an unjustified exception to the rule you claim, simply because it invalidates your own argument.

>>86858271
>all human invented Gods don't exist
Finally you're making some progress

>>86858271
>I like my god better than Thor
>therefore Thor doesn't exist

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>>86858278
>yank
Wrong.
>y-you're brainwashed! w-we're all born atheists!
We're also all born illiterate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ii-bsrHB0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnBTJDje5xk

>>86858337
>le Thor

>>86854365
>oh no, all those poor shitskin Christians
>refugees welcome, bring them in!

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>>86854459
>defends some of the morals conceived by Christianity
>but secretly knows that God Is Dead

>>86858120
How does this constitute a reply to the quoted post?

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>>86858407
>his own shitty anti-European-heritage image admits that Christians were barbarian savages who slaughtered white people for not believing in magic Jew

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>>86859952
>European-heritage
Ever since "Europe" has been a thing, your ancestors have been Christian, dumb amerifat.

>>86852841
The Bible is nothing more that a degenerate journey book.

>>86850691
>Number 4
This kind of stuff always makes me laugh. The persecution complex is worse than /pol/'s.

>>86858407
>yank
>Wrong.
You spell like a yank, e.g. incorrectly

>>86860761
>You spell like a yank
?
>incorrectly
English isn't my native language.

Can we just hang all Christians and get it over with?

>>86861487
Its war you want? Like the Crusades, we will slaughter all of you.

https://youtu.be/iYn4-6hUIa8