THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF DCEU

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>be DCEU
>Make severely underrated first film without quips and with a strong meaning/themes

This so fucking much. We should have gotten direct sequels to Man of Steel, now 4 movies later they're just now considering MoS2. What bullshit.

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>>86835902
>tfw had faith in DC from the start

>>86835696
They totally botched it. Cavill is a great Superman and Gadot is as good as any WW but Batfleck is a garbage Batman to build a universe around and they are making all the wrong decisions. Horrible Aquaman and Flash casting.

What a mess. It'll be 15 or 20 years before we see the end of this.

>>86836069
Wtf? Batman and Flash got the most talended actors, Gal and Mamoa are ok at best and Cavill is shit

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>>86836069
>Gadot
>Good as any Wonder Woman

>>86835696
>le dcucks actually like this trash

I hate this meme.

>>86835696
I'm just waiting for the ones to come from the Vertigo Imprint

Who gives a shit what they announce. All that matters is that Wonder Woman will pass Civil War & Iron Man 3 domestic over the next 10 days.

DC is such shit yet people keep coming back to watch their movies, just like they will in November.

>>86836069
>as good as any woman

>>86836242
>SwallowingPalestinianSemen.jpg

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>>86835696
>>It takes a week for someone to actually confirm whether or not your Batman film is apart of your connected universe, because your Batman film is up in the air so no one knows exactly whats going on.
It was clear what Reeves said and there was literally no room for interpretation otherwise. It's almost a talent how bloggers go from this
>"this movie is more stand alone"
to this
>"MATT REEVE'S BATMAN MOVIE IS NOT CANON WITH THE DCEU! RED ALERT!"

>>86836242
What's so bad about this pic?Looks ok.

OP here this is what they should be doing after JL (in order)
>Aquaman
>Flash (no shitty flash point, just flash and rogues or something)
>Wonder Woman 2 (with cheetah)
>Shazam
>Man of Steel 2 (at the end reveal that Supergirl exists)
>Maybe Gotham City Sirens with more Batman building lore, like Catwoman, Barbara Gordon, Commissioner Gordon, Ivy, and Harley

THEN AFTER JL 2
>The Batman
>Teen Titans
>Aquaman 2 (if first one does well)
>Supergirl
>If everything has been good up to this point, then consider maybe fixing up Suicide Squad with a sequel
Anything past this point is to uncertain to say, it all depends on what IPs do well and which ones don't to determine sequels

i'd like to know what makes studio executives so averse to making good movies. it's like they think critical acclaim and box office success are two ends of a line and in order to have more of one you have to move away from the other.

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>>86836660
Well it used to go
>Good movie == Big money at Box office
But after BvS and S.S., they realised that:
>shitty movie but with famous characters and good marketing == still loads of money at box office
Unfortunately, the latter is unsustainable, the vast majority of people would have ditched the DCEU completely had WW been shit (you can only trick people into watching your shitty movies once or twice.

If JL does okay (it doesn't even have to be fantastic, as long as it doesn't suck) it will put trust in the brand for a few more movies.
Their current plans with sequels for Suicide Squad and shitty spin offs aren't putting hope in people because it is showing that these executives don't actually realise that their movie was shit. These people are so out of touch with the rest of the world, at least marvel knows what the regular braindead normie can be sated with (quips every 2 minutes to mask inconsistencies)

Doesn't anyone care to mention how several clickbait sites manufactured a "controversy" and the ducks on this board, probably along with OP, pushed it for days and now make threads like this to divert attention from that fact?

I'd like to talk about that - the air of desperation that Mousecucks are started to exude, that heady aroma of fear.

>>86836964
MoS and BvS underveloped hard, Wonder Woman was literally the only DCEU movie that overperformed at the box office

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>>86837634
Forget it anon, Mouse niggers are delusional revisionists that always forget the mess they make while planning the next time to shitpost to death. Just months ago the same people who called Wonder Woman a "literal who" that no one gives a shit about because MCU's Black Widow, Scarlet Whore, and a "FUCKING TALKING RACCOON AND TREE VOICED BY VIN DIESEL XD!!" and only after being a literal slay queen in the summer blockbuster, they now acknowledge her "trinity member" status. Her topping Deadpool was also funny, that mouse niggers held on to.

Disney is also *very* afraid of Batman more than they are of the whole DCEU franchise. Rightfully so, he can make a billion without an Avengers tier cast to piggy back on, and has a rich history in movies. The Mouse knows they're not just competing with another cape movie, but a fucking legacy. One would say Disney built a canon to crush an egg when BvS was in the works. It pushed them to work to make Cap's movie into a Avengers 2.5 and pressured them to work out a deal with Sony.

If you're wanting them to APOLOGIZE. They won't, the mouse cucks are hiding in pants shitting fear that The Batman is coming, and they know Matt Reeves will deliver.

>>86838279
What I was saying was, for the quality of film that was actually released, S.S. and BvS made more money than they deserved.

I think that Wonder Woman did well in the same way to how Black Panther is going to do well.

DC needs to pour everything they have into marketing for JL, because if it doesn't surpass Avengers (or at least AoU) they will be forever branded as the inferior franchise

>>86838357
posted too soon/character limit.

Forgot to mentiont his bit. While people here may think Batman and DC stuff is getting bad press because of some mouse conspiracy, it's actually more likely that Batman and DC are such a popular brand, that shit sites like Collider and Screen Rant can't help but report whatever bullshit that comes to them. You think anyone gave that much of a shit about how many directors turned down Black Panther or Edgar Wright's Antman?

>>86837634
>>86838357
wait, mousecuck/mousenigger == disney shill, right?
Yeah, I know I need to lurk more

Man of Steel didn't under-perform in any way. It was actually a hit.

Remember, Superman Returns had just under-performed despite being a sequel to the old Superman movies and having Bryan Singer, the guy who made the X-Men movies, as a director. That left Warner Brothers disappointed as fuck and the feeling was that Superman either needed to be updated for today market or be left behind.

While Man of Steel was a divisive movie with the critics, it made a good amount of money and generated a lot of discussion, both good and bad. That's why Warner Brothers decided to go ahead with a sequel. Specially after the DVDs sold like hotcakes.

BvS, sure, was a huge disappointment. Warner Brothers thought the movie was going to be super smart and a critical darling because of it. Something different from the MCU formula and perhaps be a huge success because of it. They ended up learning that today market actually wants more of the MCU formula with its fun atmosphere and world-building. That's why Suicide Squad was changed midway to fit that mold.

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>>86838572
>>86838357
>>86836650
>>86836069
If they make a Batman film within the next 2-3 years it will end up like Spider-man Homecoming, when audiences are just too fatigued about Batman, and so it underperforms.

DC executives will bank on it being batman and all, and not bother worrying about whether the movie is good or not.

>>86838610
yes and do lurk more

>>86838880

Warner Brothers is actually being smart, i think. See, there's a huge readership market crazy for everything Gotham, but Batman. They love the shit out of the Robins, the Batgirls, the Gotham City Sirens, the Rogues, and so on. So much so that in the last years the comics have been focusing much more on such characters than on Batman himself. Batman most of the times feel like a supporting character even in his own titled book.

You cannot redo the Burtom's films or Nolan's trilogy where's all about a somber Batman and the crazy Gotham. Fans have been clamoring to see Robin, Batgirl, Harley Quinn and such for a long time. Suicide Squad success can be pretty much attributed to Harley presence in the film.

So what is Warner Brothers doing? Creating a sub cinematic universe focusing on all these characters with movies like Gotham City Sirens, Suicide Squad 2, Batgirl, Nightwing, Joker/Harley Quinn and so on.

>>86838832
>Man of Steel didn't under-perform in any way. It was actually a hit.
>Budget: $225 million
>Box office: $668 million
According to /tv/ that's a flop

>>86839232

Not to mention that Man of Steel was one of the first WB movies to have huge product placement in the film, which helped lowering their expenses with the budget. I remember how there was an announcement that they had gained back their budget expense before the movie had even been release because of it.

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>>86835696
>severely underrated first film without quips and with a strong meaning/themes

Man of Steel was trash get over it

>>86839117
I think WBs fault was starting the timeline well into Batman's career.
Having to explain Robin, Red Hood (I have my fingers crossed), Batgirl etc. all through flashbacks is going to be terrible. Going straight into BvS without any Batman set up (to be honest, they wouldn't have been able to, it would have been too close to TDKR) will turn out bite them in the ass down the track.

I don't even know how they're going to go about this, I don't know how they're going to explain DCEU Batgirl and Nightwing and robin, without introducing them first in a batman film, it's just not going to catch on with audiences

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>>86838880
Spider-Man Homecoming had it's own set of problems with Sony trying to reinvent the wheel with gimmick casting icons like Mary Jane or Flash Thomson. (or perhaps trying to remove them altogether) Not to mention shit Spider man movies from before. Ben Affleck was always given a benefit of the doubt even during the backlash from BvS' most harshest critics.

Also regarding casting change rumors. Jared Leto is the most likely to have his head on the chopping block out of everybody. WB is probably going to want this movie to be an Oscar contender for Best Picture, and they're not going to let Leto method act the fuck out of Battfleck to where he wants to quit because Leto decided it would be a cute prank to leave a ice bucket filled with wine with accompanied with a picture of Jennifer Gardner and his kids hugging their new step dad.

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>>86839330
What'sa matter, not enough snarky quips in it for ya?

Don't worry kiddo, I hear Thor: Ragnarok is coming out later this year, I'm sure that'll have all the funny jokes and quips you could possibly want!

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>>86838357
This is the preening ignorance of the DCuck, who takes the fanbase-wide delusions of intellectual grandeur to such lengths that he's successfully gaslighted himself into believing that the Disney MCU, Fox, and Sony are all one entity and that his own studio's desperate, panicked course changes are somehow a sign of victory rather than impending total defeat.

The absolute state of DC after BvS cannot be understated. It was a rotten movie to its core that slathered on visual metaphors borrowed from better media like an aged whore applying rouge before her performance at the burlesque. Well-shot camerawork is not an asset if the shots are all just lovingly rendered 60fps takes of a human turd. The acting ranged throughout the meritocratic infrared, from the merely mediocre and underutilized (Jeremy Irons, Laurence Fishburne) to the pointless and shoehorned (why was Flash's cameo depicted in such a shockingly non sequitur way that undermined any possible significance to his time travel ability?) to the actually terrible (Henry Cavill was, and is, just not a good actor, and Jesse Eisenberg wins a Razzie for the most miscast villain in decades). The writing was plodding, boring, and injected at random intervals with quasi-Biblical pabulum that should have been left in the 1930s B-level arthouse screenplays it was stolen from. Doomsday was just the villain from the Edward Norton Hulk movie with a different lack of backstory.

But if that apocalyptic dumpster fire of a movie wasn't enough, Warner Brothers doubled down on their mistakes, giving Zach free rein to produce what is arguably the worst superhero movie ever made as a function of quality divided over cost. Suicide Squad is so bad that the ranks of mindless DCuck drones on this website who crawl out of their basements to defend BvS as "2deep4u" remain embarrassingly silent about it. It's so bad that everyone still thinks of Heath Leger or the animated version voiced by Mark Hamill when you say "Joker".

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>>86839569
Good post.

I might add that I think Leto was doing the best with what he was given, Gangster Joker just isn't a very good idea to begin with. He's crazy not a pimp, but I do think Suicide Squad gave Leto's joke the shitty short end of the stick.
Had Suicide Squad just been actually well written and maybe had the Joker as the villain, then I think everyone would be praising Leto.

Also he was never going to beat Ledger's Joker, but who knows, maybe this Harley/Joker film will turn out to be kino, although I'm not getting my hopes up

>>86839504

What? That's actually the smartest move they could make, anon!

If they had shown us a Batman who's just starting out it would feel too much like the beginning of a new Batman franchise like the Burtom and Nolan's movies. Not to mention that it'd be impossible to have more than one Robin and Batgirl, since they'd have to be introduced as newcomers with each movie or both at a single movie. It would be extremely odd for in one movie to be introduced to Dick Grayson, the first Robin, and Barbara Gordon, the first Batgirl, only for in the sequel to not see them again and be introduced yet again to a new Robin, for example Jason Todd, and perhaps a new Batgirl, maybe Cassandra Cain.

You feel me?

But by introducing an older and tired Batman that went through several partners that he either failed to protect and pushed away, you can later introduce all these old Robins and Batgirls as adults in new movies where we learn how they grew up alongside Batman and how they're now after their falling out.

For example Nightwing movie can show through angsty flashbacks how he was taken in by Batman, how he was trained and fought crime with Batman, how like a family they were and simple things used to be, while showing how he's all alone now and dealing with the struggle if he should reach out to Batman and the rest of the family or not. Same for the Batgirl movie. You can show how she isolated herself after the Joker attacked her and how she blame everyone in the so called Batfamily for it, how she's struggling to fix her back and regain control of her life, and how she misses her relationship with the first Robin deciding if there's still a chance for happiness between them.

Yes, the movies will be filled with flashbacks, but that's not so bad when used well.

Possibly, some of the official mentions in interviews and purposeful leaks are done to increase the general awareness (Q score) of certain characters to the public and make people more curious about a movie involving that character. This is possibly sometimes done even if there is little in serious planning for a movie featuring such a character.

>>86839734
Wonder Woman
>box office: 800 millions
>critics:92%
>audience:90%

Oh yeah it's fucking over, is just a lot better than MCU origin movies by both critic reception and box office but comparing something with the failure that is MCU is way too much right?

>>86838832
>Man of Steel didn't under-perform in any way.
WB expected a billion, somehow. It underperformed to their expectations.

>>86840099

They really didnt.

>>86839819
Hmmm, you make a good point.
I guess I one of the things I've been hoping for is maybe the final movie of the batman trilogy to be a "Son of Batman" movie, where we see actions done in the first movie (like a flash back of talia meeting bruce and flirting) reveal when bruce finds out he has a real son.
My thinking is that I don't think these characters are going to mean much to people unless we are shown where they came from, kinda like if instead of Iron Man 2, we got War Machine movie (bad example I know)

I mean maybe it could work, but I just don't trust those fucking DC retards suits in charge to not ruin something this important

>>86838357
Afraid of what exactly? Batman making a billion? What do you think it will happen, people would stop watching Marvel movies or something? Iron Man and The Dark Knight released the same year and that didn't kill the MCU. The Dark Knight Rises made a billion and so did Avengers the same year as well. Why would Marvel care if DC movies make money as long as they make money as well.

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>>86839734
Suicide Squad is so bad, in fact, that DC's own fans despair when the Habsburg-tier inbreds running WB interpret its high box office gross as a sign to make a sequel. Fans post in forums like this one, imploring a blind and deaf god that will not hear them, pleading for release from the endless purgatory of shitty DC films, unable to dig themselves out of the hole Zach Snyder bulldozed for them.

And Wonder Woman was fine, let's be honest about this. It was an entertaining movie with good visuals, fine casting and acting, relatively good writing, and no gaping arterial holes in the plot or setting that hamstrung the last two movies before it. But it won't save the franchise from a few more movie Hindenburgs if SS2 gets a release date this side of 2023, or if Justice League is as much a dopey arcade knockoff of Avengers 1 as it looks like in the trailers.

>b-but Cyborg's CGI wasn't finished yet
Sorry, kiddo, that token black ship has sailed, and it took with it the one thing that every passionate yet internally broken DCuck partisan constantly retreated to, their inner sanctum, their Masada: Snyder's visuals. "They're beautiful movies", the unloved and pathetic DCuck wails. "They're much more artistically shot than Marvel movies." This just went flushing down the drain in a mad, executive-driven rush to get out a shoddy movie's trailer according to a timeline that is entirely paced and led by Marvel's film schedule. The Justice League movie looks like a barely decent 90-minute film struggling to extricate itself from a burning 2.5-hour wreckage of awkwardly acted, poorly stitched together ideas and scenes - just like BvS, just like SS.

To return to the DCuck, driven by the hateful light of objective reality into his dark and twisted hollows of mad unreason, there can be no rational discussion or rapport which he does not meet with immediate butthurt. His insecurity drives him, for he knows, deep down, that his movies are bad and he should feel bad.

>>86840099
>>86840138
Iron Man Grossings:
>Domestic : $318,412,101
>Foreign: $266,762,121
>Worldwide: $585,174,222

Man of Steel Grossings
>Domestic: $291,045,518
>Foreign: $377,000,000
>Worldwide: $668,045,518

Maybe DC was hoping it would be similar to Nolans trilogy, but idk

>>86835696
>Announce plans for a shitty rom-com spin off of said shitty film with just Harely and Joker, something literally no one asked for
This is all that I care about with the DCEU. Joker and Harley and heaps of people want this. Go on youtube and look at the view counts on Joker SS videos

>>86836646
Gadot isnt attractive for one, has shit accent and cannot act

>>86840140

See, a "Batman and Son" can only work with the current older and tired Batman, since the we feel left out from this huge history that happened off-screen. A new and fresh Batman having a son wouldn't work out.

And the thing is, people care more about the Robins and Batgirls because of who they became after leaving Batman's wings. We care about the first Robin because we comic readers know that he became the daredevil and ladie's man Nightwing, we care about the second Robin because the became the punished and violent Red Hood, we care for the third Robin because he became the super-smart and tech-sawy Red Robin, we care for the first Batgirl because she became the computer girl Oracle that helps everyone and fucked the whole family, and so on.

So they need to be damaged adults. And like i said, flashbacks and even mere allusions can work. Fucking Taken was a huge success and we didn't need to know how Lian learn his trade or met most of his CIA buddies. We just know he went through shit and became a baddass father.

>>86839995
See >>86840295

There is nothing wrong with Wonder Woman, except that it's chained to the waterlogged corpses of Batman and Superman after they got their little WB treatment administered by Doctor Snyder's Magic Visual Nostrum for Ailing Franchises.

Crow over the one victory in your studio's misbegotten lifespan, it doesn't portend a sea change and you know it. It's all downhill from here, WW is the high point and JL is going to bring this right back down to the cringey, chemistry-less, stilted, unfabulous mess that DCucks know and secretly feel ashamed about so well.

>>86840351

They were going to give up on Superman after Superman Returns. MoS showed them that audience could still give a crap about Superman.

And Batman Begins made even less money than both Iron Man and MoS.

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Will never be as bad as Marvel atleast.

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>>86840475
Don't MCUcks ever get tired of screaming doom at DC? At this rate I'd be more worried about Spider Twink v Iron Manlet not even reaching 800m WW

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>>86840571
It's not screaming doom, it's commenting on a sinking ship in real time. There are no vague portents here. This is an absolute elephant's graveyard of really awfully underperforming assets and critically poor reception.

The only people who liked the bad DC movies were:
>Fat Hot Topic goth chicks who wanted to be Harley
>a small army of Pajeets desperate to cling to a foolish caricature of masculinity and project their deep insecurities
>4chan denizens that are basically white Pajeets and provide no utility except as a tidewater marker of human mediocrity

>>86840501
shh

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>>86840715
>It's not screaming doom, it's commenting on a sinking ship in real time.

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>>86840501

>>86840501
>Two mediocre movies and two shit ones
D-damn, watch out Marvel

>>86840715
Yeah sinking ship of being vastly more profitable than a Marvel that is just recently starting to break even for Disney. It's cute how invested you are in this though. While Marvel keeps shit out assembly-line garbage for kids and retards (You), your primary concern seems to be DC.

I hope that Feige cock tastes nice!

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>>86840776
>It's not screaming doom, it's commenting on a sinking ship in real time.

If I was a Marvel fagboy, I'd be more concerned with the stagnated rehashed MCU than anything. Holy shit the past two years have been shit for the MCU. GoTG2 was just downright embarrassing mess of embarrassing quips and razor-thin characters.

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>>86840837
Even Marvel directors think Marvelshit sucks compared to the real deal. Only mouseshills are still as delusional to defend the stagnated MCU.

>>86840846
This is a DC thread discussing substantive problems with DC, which should be able to succeed or fail on its own merits, but can't because it's a poorly designed and acted studio.
>Criticizing anything for being well organized
This must be what it's like to smell a whiff of someone's body odor and realize they don't know how to conduct basic hygeine, except in a mental sense. Your internal insecurities and Asperger's disconnect with the world of human social and emotional cues just wafted through your post and hit everyone who read it. I feel bad for you, DCuck.

>>86840964
>Trying to claim Watchmen as part of the DCCU
Pathetic.

>>86840908
>>86840846
>>86840776
>>86840571
>>86840501
>Literally the same guy
Jesus Christ pajeet, how much you getting for overtime?

>>86840993
Damn look how upset the MCUck gets upon exposing his hypocrisy. Stones and glass houses....the MCU is a cancer on cinema and ought be eradicated as fast as possible.

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>>86840964
Lmao what was that?

>>86840993
>Criticizing anything for being well organized
It's cheap and produces the same shit with a different hairdo. Shit talk DC movies all you want, but you can't honestly say that Wonder Woman is the same as Suicide Squad in visuals and tone.

>>86841079
Loved =/= masterpiece. MCU turds are basically guilty pleasure at this point. After all who geniunely laughed at the poo poo jokes besides the mentally stunted MCUcks?

>>86841040
This guy gets it. The Pajeets work hard to lift themselves out of poverty, it's not their fault that a moronic syndicate of overly processed Jesus symbology hired them to defend indefensible positions against a superior force. Trying to outsource their internet defense forces won't save the DCuck from the Day of the Quip.

>>86841143
Do mouseshills even pretend not to be paid off?

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>>86841040
>nb4 inspect element.

>>86841072
Watch the DCuck uncomfortably try to laugh off his social anxiety with false condescension. See him squirm in his Cheeto-encrusted skin.>>86841107

These Kevin Feige cocksuckers are getting tiresome. Atleast shill for something with artistic integrity. MCU has killed blockbuster cinema. It is risk-less garbage.

>>86841107
You make the valid point that Wonder Woman is different from Suicide Squad, but the logic unfortunately ends there. The tone change is a result of Change Management; Zach had to step down for personal reasons (we Marvelpatricians don't stoop to the level of implying he was forced out or deserved his family tragedy) and Joss Whedon stepped up to revamp the movie in post. Whether that's good or bad is subjective; but the difference in style wasn't really planned from the outset like you're implying.

Marvel movies are hardly cheap, and they have quite a bit of diversity, my friend. What may have confused you is that they are all held to the same high, discerning standards of quality, which can give the illusion of uniformity from the great distance of the DC movies.

>>86841179
What's that, Pajeet?

Abki bar DC sarkar??

Sorry, Marvel doesn't hire internet shills, you'll have to keep working for DC if you want to be paid pennies per shitpost. They debase themselves, we don't. It's what discerns the civilized man from the savage.

>>86841229
>Implying that a movie needs to run a nontrivial risk of being absolute shit in order to have "artistic integrity"
Is this really what DCucks tell each other in their dirt hovels at night?

What is it like to be a DCEU fan at this point? I mean, they're pretty much all Snyderfags, but both his Superman flicks were disappointments both critically and financially. Suicide Squad was garbage but it at least got an Academy award out of it. They are literally being kept alive right now by a Jew. The funny thing is, they shit on Wonder Woman and compare it to Marvel movies, but then still have to bring up the movies success whenever somebody shits on BvS or Man of Steel. You guys are literally being cucked by a woman.

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>>86841290
>Marvel movies are hardly cheap
Lel

99% of budget is marketing and shill campaigns. An episode of GoT is more cinematic than the average TV-rate Marvelshit.

>>86841381
>I'm fine with sucking Disney's dick because they give me monthly rehashed assembly-line garbage focus tested by kids
Go tell 'em tiger!

>>86841030
>WB movie
>DC movie
Suck it mouseshill

>The post counter hasn't gone up once in about 30 replies
Okay, this is where it just becomes a clusterfuck of blurry, shitty quality screenshots and webms from both sides that we're somehow supposed to use to judge a movies quality

How does it feel being an MCUck knowing the content you clap to is actually on the same level as Mickey Mouse cartoons? If you defend MCU on /tv/ you are either a kid or a stunted manchild.

>>86841407
>99% of budget is marketing and shill campaigns
Hmm, not quite. Let's try that again, DCuck.
>http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe#tab=summary
Uh oh, kill yourself! It looks like your offhand comment actually made you look retarded.

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>>86841347
>Sorry, Marvel doesn't hire internet shills
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

fuck off mousejeet

>>86841500
It's almost like the thread is the same two mouseshills desperately trying to preserve their narrative of DCEU doom while the MCU in turn has stagnated to the point where they'll be forced to reboot the clusterfuck soon enough.

>This one DCuck that's posting on his phone and a computer at the same time
Embarrassing

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OP here, you all need to shut the fuck up.
This thread is not about
>MUH MARVEL IS BETTA
>NUH MUH DCEU IS BETTA
Bla bla bla, shut the fuck up.
Go shill your MCU vs. DCEU horseshit elsewhere. You fucking faggots have derailed this thread with your heinous garbage.

We're specifically discussing the poor direction and poor planning being done by DC, and the obvious attempts at shilling to spread fake news about DC's plans.
Fuck off about marvel in a DC thread you fucking niggers
>>86841500
is right, you're all arguing about who's getting fucked in the ass worse, while avoiding the fact that you're both getting fucked in the ass.
The fact that Marvel is even brought up in a specifically DCEU thread proves the fact that this board in invested with shills

>>86841407
After people mentioned the misplaced zoom in the previous thread it turned impossible to me to watch this scene without getting dizzy.

>>86841441
The DCuck tries to equivocate, but his muted yelpings are lost in the tide of neurotic pale emo and goth kids that swarmed every Suicide Squad showing, and then trampled underfoot by the masses of Pajeets excited to see their favorite Superman character on the big screen.

His fanbase is infinitely more toxic and unworthy of respect than any other movie franchise's, yet he tries to mask this behind a sneering veneer of online rudeness. Nice try, DCuck. We see the real you, and we aren't impressed.

>>86841526
How the fuck did they spend 250m on Civil War? That airport fight looked like it was straight outta CW channel. Where did the money go? Sure as hell not into the actual film.

>>86841605
shut the fuck up, gtfo of this thread

>>86841605
Show me your skin color mousepajeet. Just a shot of the forehead. It's cute seeing third-worlder marvel pajeets still larp as /pol/.

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>>86841596
Just image the two shillniggers looking at all the (you)s hahahaha

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>>86841534
>D-DON'T CALL ME OUT OVER THE INTERNET, MARVEL! I'LL BEAT YOU UP!

>>86841615
Special effects. The CGI parts didn't look like CW, at least.

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>>86841615
Robert needs extra dollarinos for his new platform shoes

>>86841596
The thread was actually going well until this dipshit showed up
>>86840501
You can tell from the other posts in thread, just from the way he types that it's mostly the one guy too, he's not even trying to hide it.

>>86841707
The special effects? Come on man the characters didn't even have proper shadows at the airport. It all looked so manufactured and faked, the opposite of good special effects.

>>86841638
The DCuck is literally shaking now, he has no out, he feels triggered by rational discourse and needs to vent his feelings before they send him back into the Dark Place

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>>86841713
Manlet haircut/shades combo

>>86841743
>s-stop shit on my narrative
That Feige cock you slurp on will not make the MCU less of an embarrassing clusterfuck of quips and absent plot.

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>>86841664
Sorry, DCuck, I don't have a camera on me because I'm not a disgusting phoneposter like you. I did find a pretty good picture of you from back in the day though!

>>86835696
nobody cares about dcue anon

they never tried, and it failed completely

At this point I'm starting to think that is the same crazy fuck shitposting on both sides, the posts are getting too similar

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DC is based now. Lets see Marvel do this.

>>86841826
>Marvel Pajeet doesn't even afford a smartphone
Can't make this shit up

>>86841870
He'll go back and forth with himself until someone starts responding to a personality.

>>86841764
Do you think you're funny? Coming here and ruining a thread that had good discourse about the pro's and con's of DCEU atm, with your shitty Marvel V DC SHIT.
Did you see the big DC picture in the catalog and thought to yourself
"heh a chance to make everyone elses lives a misery just like mine!"

You wanna talk shit like DCEU v MCU? sure. Fine. Go make your own thread, and I'll join in.
Leave this thread in peace, go shitpost somewhere else.

>>86841886
>DCuck tries to deflect criticism from his posting from his new Apple (R) iPhone 7 (TM), because he knows if Rajeev the manager finds out he isn't working at his WB-approved ShillForce cubicle, he'll get written up again

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>>86841945
Why are we still pretending OP is not the standard Marvelshill on concern troll shift?

>>86841945
But that's how it is here OP. If you haven't noticed, the fucking DCEU fans on this board can't take any criticism whatsoever

>>86841945
This post is a response to a response telling me to GTFO for criticizing a DCuck's hypocrisy over insulting Marvel fans when DC fans are just as bad
It's not even the source of the problem and you know it
go deal with the actual problem, or better yet, go eat a snicker's, you're not yourself when you're hungry.

seems like the goal of this thread is keep 4chan from talking about the DCEU at all.

>>86840776
dcuck are you crying?

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>>86841924
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>>86842035

We've been at ~25 posters since the 50th reply.
This is 2-3 niggers coming in to ruin a thread that was going along just fine.
DC nigger can't help but shit on MCU, that attracts the marvelshills, and come to shitpost, which starts the cycle all over again.

I just wanted a thread to talk about the DCEU, without all that MCU stuff. for fucks sake

>>86842035
Actually, there's quite a lot of robust dialogue about the DCEU/DCCU, it's just mostly critical because DCEU/DCCU movies are really, really hit or miss. Angry Pajeets descended on the thread when they sensed anything other than slavish praise, and things went pear-shaped from there

>>86842098
I'll talk with you Anon, ignore the shills.

What do you think WB could do to change course in a meaningful way without their own fanbase interpreting it as a sign that the execs don't trust the creative drivers any more? How much could they actually improve things, short of a hard reset - and is the soft "Flashpoint" reset supposed to do that without being as blunt?

>>86842098
It's hard isn't it? The hypocrisy of attacking DC while at the same time being content with MCU assembly-line garbage. So let's for now pretend MCU doesn't exist for thecsake of narrative.

>>86839330

Reminder that with one exception Snyder has only used overt Christian imagery with Superman when he is being viewed though a Christian character's eyes.

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>>86842189
>Autistically attacks the one DC fan trying to have a conversation about movies who isn't a paid shill
The DCuck is renowned for his poor aim and shaky grip on reality, but worse still for his cowardice at the first sign of real resistance. Notice how the ranks of DCuck shills has thinned in the last ten minutes or so. They've realized they can't win against real men, and have retreated to the hills to plan fantasy revenge which will never come about.

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>>86842098
Both DCucks and MCUcks will be fucked when we Image comics master race finally get our superior shared universe movies, it will be like when PC master race destroyed both PS and XBOX, it will be beautiful.

>>86839569
>Leto decided it would be a cute prank to leave a ice bucket filled with wine with accompanied with a picture of Jennifer Gardner and his kids hugging their new step dad.

Underrated.

While BvS was sabotaged because the studio wanted a short film instead of the 3 hour epic they had promised Snyder and SS was sabotaged because the executives wanted the movie to be released fast and changed things to make it more like Guardians of the Galaxy, the Justice League film was always going to be more optimistic and light-hearted in comparison.

You've Chris Terio interview stating why he came back to write Justice League and how more upbeat the film was going to be, this before BvS had even come out.

the guy who originally started referring to the DCEUIDF as being of indian origin wishes he could go back and just not

>>86842271
Does anyone else just not read a post whenever Evansface is attached? MCUcks can't be more obvious.

>>86841991

Killer Frost was sexy as fuck in that flick.

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This thread is now made safe by Marvel heroism in the face of DCuck effrontery. Honest DC and Marvel fans can now mingle in safety, no longer fearful of raids from the treeline by whooping hordes of morons.

>>86842329 you can go home now, it's okay. The battle is over, we won, buddy.

>>86842387
Jesus Christ

Just hope they make a good Batman movie without too many cameos and MoS2 in the future

>>86842305
that interview was after post-production though, during the interim when the movie was finished and the premier date. The way it went is they finished the film, started test marketing it, found reaction to be wholly negative, came up with the plan of an embargoed simultaneous international holiday weekend premier, when they also decided to cut it down to two hours to get 33% more screenings per day. Then decided to make the next movie more upbeat.

They already had the data and knew how the movie would perform and did everything they could to not take a massive loss.

>>86842144
I think that JL will be a turning point in the franchise, mainly for the likes of Superman and Batman.
I feel flashpoint will be a mistake (at least this early on) so I heavily hope they decide against it.
I reckon Aquaman will (hopefully) be like Thor and Wonder Woman, and I'm hoping James Wan can pull a Wonder Woman and play the film to Momoa's acting quality, and making use of a diverse cast to support.
Wonder Woman proved that it can be done.

To more directly answer the question you poser, I would not have ANY world ending threat after JL until at least JL 2. It is clear that DC wants to do more Nolan style stories, which would be okay if they just didn't shove every movie to the brim with set-up shit. They need to see whats popular and go with that. No GL, no Suicide squad.
Wonder Woman 2, Man of Steel 2.
After infinity war, DC is going to have to focus more on character driven stories, because world ending threats are going to loose meaning after Infinity War.

You guys think WB will fire Zack if Justice League go like his 2 previous capeshit movies? Now that wonder woman did well is clear that the previous failures were his fault

I mean c'mon Patty,Whedon and Matt are all far better than him, he's right now DCEU weakest director

>>86842634
Wasn't Snyder a producer and co-writer of WW?

>>86835696

Lot of greentext saying nothing.

>No Dr. Fate movie
>literally The Mummy with an actual AMAZING story

Nope, naw. I love the original JL trailer, it somehow wasn't good.

Nope
Naw.
No.

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>>86842690
Not sure what you mean there, partner, care yo explain?

>>86842660
Even if he was the producer that wouldn't mean that he's any better director, if that was the case MCU would have hired Feige to be the director of some movie already

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>>86842725

When something is spoken plainly, it becomes more complicated.

Dr. Fate, Movie. The Ultimate badass in DC.

>>86842784
>The Ultimate badass in DC.
sorry buddy but that's The Spectre

>>86842837

I agree but they're allies. I mean, as a mortal.

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mfw I have been reading DC comics for over two decades and loved the characters even before that from tv shows and haaaaate these films, even worse than Batman & Robin

>>86835696
>Announce plans for a shitty rom-com spin off of said shitty film with just Harely and Joker
I'd actually be totally ok with this. It would be interesting to see a superhero movie of a different genre than just the typical action flicks.

>>86842784
I loved Dr Fate in Injustice 2, but I feel there are more iconic characters to do first.
I think he will show up in a Shazam/Black Adam sequel, maybe going for the ancient Egyptian vibe
If they give him his own solo film, people will claim dceu is copying Marvel with shitposts like weve never seen before

>>86835696
>>It takes a week for someone to actually confirm whether or not your Batman film is apart of your connected universe, because your Batman film is up in the air so no one knows exactly whats going on.
It took a day.
And pretty much all the negative stuff is nothing but rumors and /tv/ theories.

>>86842784
>poor's man Doctor Strange

>>86842944

Injustice should NEVER be explored. Killing Shazam was unforgivable. I'd have just gone full mutiny being one of those heroes. I saw that and it was just "fuck naw" to the whole thing. You're not right about that, no matter what.

>>86842933
OP here, and a lot of people have replied saying that they think this might actually be good, with very good reasoning as well.

As long as they include some snazzy red hood goodness, I think i might be sold. Something to take the gf too i guess

>>86839117
>So much so that in the last years the comics have been focusing much more on such characters than on Batman himself. Batman most of the times feel like a supporting character even in his own titled book.
What the fuck are you talking about? This is complete bullshit. Actually, right now, DC's biggest seller is an event that ties pretty much every single DC character to Batman. Not Nightwing, not Batgirl: fucking Batman.

>>86843022

Injustice is a really stupid and god-awful story where the only character with a good brain is Batman, of all people.

>>86842986
I was referring to all that shit Casey Affleck shit a week ago, even all the
>"UUUH MUH BATFLECK IS OUT RED ALERT RED ALERT"
And the fake news shilling that has been going on non stop since

The only thing to give a fuck about the DCEU is Batfleck. Forget about everything else, just focus on that.

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>>86843080
it was literally the plot from lords of justice from the animated series all over again

>>86843117
*casey affleck said about ben

>>86843022
Injustice is what the DC universe would be if it was under Marvel

>>86835696
>>be DCEU
Okay

>>Make severely underrated first film without quips and with a strong meaning/themes
NO. WRONG. Stopped reading this retarded horseshit right there.

>>86843060

Outside from Scott Snyder's Dark Metal, pretty much every comic is more about the other characters.

BATMAN is pretty much about how awesome Catwoman is, with the current arc focusing on the known rogues. Batman's a fuck-up throughout the whole series that constantly have to be bailed out by other characters, more notably Catwoman.

DETECTIVE COMICS is all about how awesome and right the whole Bat-Family is, and how ineffectual and wrong Batman is, with Batman's past wrongdoings coming to bite everyone in the ass.

Then there are the various other comics that constantly show Batman in a bad light to prop the protagonists.

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>>86843167

>>86843139

Only made 10 times worse and dumber. The character assassination of most characters is fucked up.

>>86843154
>Injustice is what the DC universe would be if it was under Marvel

>captain america working for hydra
>everyone working for hydra
>cpt marvel killed iron man
>hulk is dead
>spiderman possessed by a super villain
>Cyclops went crazy and killed xavier
>inhumans genocide mutants
>f4 gone

Yeah,pretty much

>>86843005

I fucking love doctor strange, but you haven't got the pulse of it. Dr. Fate is the original.

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>>86836650
>supergirl in dceu
>in the fucking mos sequel

>this damage control after being caught RED HANDED spamming fake news
Sad

>>86843178
>BATMAN is pretty much about how awesome Catwoman is, with the current arc focusing on the known rogues.
Of course, because the focus on Batman this month is gonna be on Metal, but Batman had been the main focus.

>DETECTIVE COMICS is all about how awesome and right the whole Bat-Family is, and how ineffectual and wrong Batman is, with Batman's past wrongdoings coming to bite everyone in the ass.
Yes, and it sells much less than the other 3 ongoing Batman led titles (Batman, Metal and All Star Batman), and it does decently because it's still called Detective Comics.

>Then there are the various other comics that constantly show Batman in a bad light to prop the protagonists.
And none of them sell nearly as well as the Batman centered titles.

Again, stop making up bullshit. Not even Harley sells well on her own.

>>86843359

>Power Girl with huge tits just fucking shit up
>powerful feminist message with wide-hips, huge breasts and fucking shit up

Yes, fucking please.

Fuck yourself if you don't just want this extremely good film that we're never getting. It's not a fetish when everyone wants it.

>>86843422

Catwoman has been the focus of BATMAN, not Batman. Tom King has been tearing down Batman to prop her character up.

I forgot about ALL-STAR BATMAN. It's depressing to think that the only comic writer to still care about the character is fucking Scott Snyder.

>>86843480
Snyder is the modern O'Neil, people will realize it one day

>>86843480

It's the perfect romance, is the problem. Hero and villain with the same dark themes, and they obviously really like each other. Batman and Catwoman together is like jam (or whatever you use) and bread. They go so, perfectly together but part of their relationship is the temptation to cross-over.

>>86843480
>Catwoman has been the focus of BATMAN, not Batman. Tom King has been tearing down Batman to prop her character up.
Again, this has been only the past few issues, and it's probably got to do with Batman doing his shit in Metal, so they give the character a break. And it sells because it's still called Batman. If it was called Catwoman, nobody would give a shit about it because people like Batman. And it'll be back to being about Batman in no time.
People aren't interested in other bat characters more than Batman, you absolutely made that up with no real data to back it up.

I just want my Cyborg movie in 2020.

>>86843496
O'Neil wrote good comics though, and certainly knew how to write a proper ending and didn't feel the need to stretch shitty storylines for 3 issues more than necessary.

>>86843576

I don't buy comics anymore because they're fucking nonsense.

Production went into overdrive to appeal to foreign countries. The canon is that Bruce ends up with Selena. dead-on.

>>86843524

Catwoman is a fucking femme fatale. She's there to tempt Batman, manipulate his emotions, and then stab him in the back, with just a little bit of doubt thrown in at the end to make you wonder if she really cares for him to make her look sympathetic enough so she can come back to do it all again.

She was never supposed to be Batman's Lois Lane or whatever else. This attempt to push her as Batman's undying love have been messing their dynamic and damaging both Batman and Catwoman.

But the biggest problem with the run is that King writes Catwoman as a huge Mary Sue. Batman needs her affection to function, Batman convoluted plan against plan could only work with her, Catwoman is way smarter than Batman and is always two steps ahead of him, only Catwoman could help Batman stop Bane (not even his trained sons could do it), Batman needs to tell her his darkest secrets in the hopes that maybe she can forgive and accept him (like, what? She's a fucking criminal!), and so on.

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Well, well, WELL. So after 48 straight hours of constant threads hitting bump limit about the doom of the DCEU because Reeves was pulling the Batman from the Cinematic Universe continuity and some unconfirmed rumours about an elseworld Joker origin story that have "fake news" written all over it, our beloved MCU shills come back to our board to try to save face after all those things being confirmed bullshit.

But how did this happen bros? How did the legacy of Walt Disney,a genius and a true fighter for western values, turn into THIS? A company that spends more in marketing than in production for all their movies and that has Indian shills on their payroll making shit up on the internet? Well, wonder no more, for it's STORYTIME

>>86843576

Outside of the initial arcs, that were about OC characters called Gotham and Gotham Girl, the whole series have been about how important and awesome Catwoman is, brah.

>>86843719
The pussy game is ridiculous for Batman.

>>86843719

I don't think so. She's the only thing ever, to challenge him. Even when he sees her, he's not sure how to regard her at all. Until she becomes violent, and men of course recognize that better than their female counterpart.

It's pure instinct, and why it's great to watch.

who does alfred "hope is not too late"?

>>86843735
Story time me up senpai

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>>86843735
Gather round, kids, for I'm going to show you the deepest ends of the BTFO side of the tracks

Now where does it all begin? The origin of this BTFO that is going to echo in the walls of eternity can be found in 2012, way before the DCEU was even a thing

Now what happened in 2012? Well, in october, the biggest entertainment conglomerate in the world, Disney Entertainment, bought Lucasfilm Limited

>>86843833
>What does that have to do with /tv/ being obliterated to end of their rope, to the point of becoming the laughingstock of all 4chan, a website with boards dedicated to My Little Pony?

Well well, good question. Disney made a massive investment in that studio, which by that time was little more than a bunch of rights for old franchises and a merchandising money ATM. Those franchises were mainly Indiana Jones and especially Star Wars.

When Disney bought Lucasfilm, they intended to make Star Wars a MASSIVE cashcow and for that to happen, they needed SW to be in the center of the industry entertainment

Disney learnt their lesson with Marvel. Obviously MCU movies are successful but even successful movies aren't that profitable. To this day they haven't made the 4 billions they paid for Marvel back, and nothing they have produced has flopped. The thing is Marvel does just ok merchandising wise, the videogames sell like shit and /tv/ licensing, besides some Netflix deals, is dead in the water.

They couldn't make the same mistake with Star Wars because the source material is not as extense and rich, and people were going to get tired of it if they started shitting out 3 movies a year, just like they do with Marvel.

>>86843640

>The canon is that Bruce ends up with Selena. dead-on.

Batman isn't Superman. If there ever was a definitive canon ending for the character, which there isn't, it'd be that he ends alone.

Even in shit like the 60's Earth-2 stories the writers only had Batman marry Catwoman so that they could create the OC Batman's daughter who's trying avenge her good for nothing dead mother. Originally the mother would be Batwoman, a old character from the time, but that wasn't angst-y enough, so they went with Catwoman as the baby's mamma so that the OC character could have some internal struggle about watching to not push things to far to not end as a criminal like her dead mother. So even in those stories Batman was a depressed widowed single father.

>>86843797

>She's the only thing ever, to challenge him.

Dude, come on. She's no Joker or Riddler. The only thing she challenge is his pants.

>>86843891

You have the knowledge, and I do. Still, I prefer to think what I want. You're not wrong.

>>86843915

I'd trade the pants challenge for the mind but i'd still like to keep my genitals. If you can't have both settle for humility.

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>>86843885
>why are you talking about Star Wars when it's the MCUcks the ones who made an absolute ass of themselves?

Getting there, getting there. With Star Wars they couldn't take any risk. There is no such thing as a Doctor Strange in the Star Wars franchise, every movie needed to be a massive tentpole making over a billion and the Star Wars name needed to be nothing less than a cultural leviathan. They needed to sell not only the movies but the theme parks, the toys, the t-shirts and all that garbage and not only old stuff but new one too. They needed Rey to be a brand on itself, a brand worth a billion at least.

And for that to happen, they needed a STRONG CONTROL of the narratives formed in the internet. They couldn’t allow people to start talking about the nu SW movies like they did about other cashgrab sequels or reboots like Robocop. In order to make billions (plural) you need more than billboards, you need a marketing campaign on all levels and that include social media and the same internet websites social media gets their opinions from, that includes even the niche ones. They needed to manufacture “hype”, get people not only to stop thinking about nu SW flicks as the cashgrab belated sequel/reboot they were, but also to get people EXCITED to see such artistic abortion. So they did what they had to do. They casted a nigger to appease the SJWs, a gurl to appease the feminists, they bought all the reviews they needed to buy and, here is where the fun begins, they hired viral marketers or shills to control those narratives even before they were formed.

>>86844004
As we all know now, Force Awakens was a nonsensical piece of shit ridden with nostalgia pandering, uninteresting characters, absolute inconsistency with the OT, bad action, bad visuals, forced emotional and qt d'awww shit, womyn pandering and abhorrent plot. They made their 2 billions* but every new IP they shoved there sells like shit and the next Star Wars movie, with similar budget, promotion and release date, made almost HALF of the TFA's gross.

But the shills were hired. Disney had a huge network of viral marketers pushing positive "user reviews", generating positive buzz in comment sections of all kinds of clickbait websites AND shilling Disney products on public forums all over the world wide web

*They made those billions with abusive practices like coercing the distributors and shit like that
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/02/26/quentin-tarantino-vows-to-never-work-with-disney-again-after-star-wars-hateful-eight-theater-dispute

>>86843944

Sure, man. You're free to like the Batman and Catwoman tango. No problems.

Like i said, there are many "continuities" and closed stories where Batman and Catwoman sorta end together before everything going to shit. So you can count them as stories where their thing was definitive. For example the Nolan trilogy.

But i also think Dark Knight Rises was the first one where they were legit together without Catwoman backstabbing Batman or dying on his ass at the end. So i personally don't see Catwoman as this integral romantic partner there always needs to be there.

>>86844101

Just in the storylines he's happy in. Or Raz's daughter. His life is shit enough almost everywhere.

>>86835696
DC movies if done right have the potential to make a very fun cinematic universe.

Problem is WB executives just can not help themselves but to get involved every single godamn time without fail and attempt to make it "better" and more "alluring" to every group possible.

>WB has been trying to make a Lobo movie since the early 2000's
>has been brought back to life and killed again multiple times because everyone interested in doing a Lobo movie wants an R rating while WB execs insist on a PG or PG-13 rating
>the recent multiple rebooted Lobo attempts over a 3 or 4 year period were likely an attempt to make Lobo a PG type character than R rated
>At one point a potential script for a Lobo movie was him coming to earth hunting a bounty in a small town and with a teenage human girls help captcha the evil aliens and fixing the town

>>86844178

See, that's why i say if there ever was an idea of a "canon ending" for Batman, it'd be that he's alone and still fighting despite it all. Even in stories where he decides to risk his chances at romantic happiness with a woman, be it with the reporter Vicki Vale, the socialite Silver St. Cloud, the costumed cat-burglar Catwoman, or the daughter of a international terrorist Talia al Ghul, among many others over the years, in the end the women either dump him, betray him, or die on him. With Batman, of course, having to pick up the broken pieces and keep on the good fight.

Even when he had married, be it in the original comics with the socialite-slash-actress Julie Madison, that left his ass after learning his double life; or in the 60's with the Earth-2 comics with a Catwoman that urged him for both to abandon their costumes and live a normal life, that ended up dying after going back to pull a last job after being blackmailed to do so; or in the 90's graphic novel with a Talia al Ghul that left her father's side to be with Batman, that ended up leaving him after seeing how soft he had become by their relationship, there was never a happy ending for Batman.

Batman is not a romantic character in the same sense as Superman, where a big focus is on his undying relationship with Lois Lane. Batman's more of a tragic character, like Wolverine, that at most get to be father and/or mentor, but ultimately always end up depressed and fucked.

And i just think that Catwoman works better as a villain, as a femme fatale, that's dangerous precisely because she manipulates the hero's feelings and will backstab him at some point, you just don't know exactly when or if she there is any genuine feeling back and if it is for a good but misguided cause.
Ever since DC decided to turn her into an anti-hero, almost a straight hero at times, and Batman's legit "girlfriend" she lost her appeal. She's nothing more than a glorified sidekick with a heavy dose of GIRL POWA.

>>86844364
This is so true it fucking hurts

>>86841596
Oh, you mean all that "poor planning' we're only hearing about through bullshit clickbait articles that you autistic fucks guzzle down like bull semen no matter how often they've proven to be complete speculation and manufactured controversy?

The MCU posted a schedule of releases midway through phase one and has since changed it multiple times, yet there's a conspicuous and damning absence of articles trumpeting their doom or their poor planning. Yes, by all means, let's focus all our attention on the DCEU that's playing their hand close to theor chest and never mind the fact that the MCU is losing steam, overly reliant on being bland and inoffensive rather than truly good, and is increasingly clusterfucking its own continuity, lore, and backhistory with each passing release.

>>86844756
That was not the point of my post

>>86844800
If not, then what you call "poor planning," I call a more comic-booky method of storytelling. If you think starting out with an older Bruce, a younger Clark, and an ancient immortal Diana is poor planning and bad storytelling, then you're too married to simple linear narratives.

When Disney announcd that massive timetable, my heart sank, because pretty much all the mystery vanished. I knew that bean-counters were calling all the shots and the stories would largely suck, and time has proven me right in that assessment.

>>86845015
I was talking about with my OP was that the future plans of the DCEU seem to flip flop around from bad to worse everyday.

Those retards in suits in charge of WB are out of touch with the real world. Suicide Squad was a disaster. And yet somehow that film has an equal chance of getting a sequel with films like WW and MoS?!
No one wanted flashpoint. People want a Flash movie about the worlds fastest man. There's already a flashpoint animated movie for fucks sake.

I agree with you with what you said about Marvel's planning, but what is the point of DC announcing shit like Cyborg and Green Lantern Corps if they're only going to fuck around with it pushing it back, chopping and changing before right at the end saying "Oh we scrapped it!"?
It only lends more to the narrative that DC is a mess and has no idea what the fuck they are doing.

The public doesn't need to know that DC is working out a Joker/Harley movie that won't even start filming for 3 years, being chopped and cut and swapped around.

DC needs to focus on following up popular films with more popular sequels and work from there

>>86844593

I simply don;t think the character lends itself to that.

Break away from the typical idea of Batman. There's no Batboy, and Batgirl is always relegated someplace else. A great comic, might be one where his kid is not only his successor in idea, but in name.

OP, you could have used nouns in your post.

I have no idea to track what fucking bullet point to what movie.

All I know is Man of Steel was great, underrated, and good values and a deconstruction of Superman.
Except for John Kent's shitty fucking death which I will never live down. Ever. I wanna smack whoever penned that part and those who thought it was fine. At least make it a small child he was rescuing instead of a fucking dog. A fucking dog. I love dogs but shit, seriously?

>>86845554
Literally none of those things OP listed are confirmed by WB. Those movies are, at best, pitches from the directors or writers that will never come ot be and at worst just fake news. The Batman was confirmed by WB, ironically, so now imagine how fucking stupid you have to be to believe The Batman won't be in the DCEU but all those unconfirmed flicks will

>>86844101

I could tell you, how I know you didn't read any comics. They're absolutely in-love.

It's like leaving your dick at her house and wondering why it's there. The fuck out of here.

>>86846569

Batman has been in love with female characters over the years. That's meaningless.

You're probably one of those losers that care about "shipping" and that sort of nonsense.

>>86846675

Wait what?

What;s shipping?

It's always been batman, and catwoman. You fucking gaylord.

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>>86846292

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Harley in the Joker standalone when?

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>>86846717
try harder

>>86846765

Try again.

>generation X vs whatever you are

Motherfucker, try me. I have enough bowls for this bunch of shit.

>>86846760

>stand-alone Joker show
>new Joker
>Harley not announced

I don't care if it came out of the animated series. That is an AWESOME character that's just been fucked around. The character writes itself.

>>86846717

And Julie Madson, Linda Page, Batwoman, Silver St. Cloud, Talia al Ghul, Natalia Knight, Vesper Fairchild, Shondra Kinsolving, Sasha Bordeaux, Wonder Woman, Zatanna, Bekka...

See my point?

Batman was always a bit like James Bond, having a new love interest for every other arc or comic series, with them always being this grand thing that never come to pass for some reason or another leaving him all alone again to fight another day.

Only in the last few years DC has been pushing Catwoman as a sort of eternal love, but even then some writers always try to introduce a new romantic interest in-between.

>>86839592
xd jesus themes btw my movie is deep

12 btw

>>86846926

Also, can't be, fucking ugly.

No ghostbusters, just NO.

>hey can we have something important on the agenda about our social issue?

NO, make her hot. Why is this somehow debatable? Women HATE what men like, it drops OUR standards towards THEM. You could go to the Zoo and they'd ask you, what you thought they'd think about it.

>>86846966
Go watch 'The Life of Brian' and get back to us.

>LITERALLY GOING TO FUCKING MAKE A SUPERHERO ROM COM MOVIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_5KgpN38hM

>>86847278
>anonymous rumours
These disney shills never learn

>>86835696
>Announce plans for a shitty rom-com spin off of said shitty film with just Harely and Joker, something literally no one asked for
This was a BTFO rumour that was never confirmes on the SDCC sizzle reel

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>>86835696
>THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF DCEU
Successful movies and fake news, that's the actual state of the DCEU

>>86841519
>on the same level as Mickey Mouse cartoons
The old Mickey Mouse cartoons are good