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Really makes you think.

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Really makes you think.
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Poor senile Shatner got influenced by teenagers on 4chan.
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>>86819301
this unironically
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men and boys BTFO lol
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TOS > TNG. TNG is lifeless
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Shatner is a based /pol/poster
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they are going to start punching well-dressed people now

If you get a smart modern hair cut and fitted clothes some ant-/fa/ is going to sucker punch you with a bike lock while screaming how you are a nazi
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>>86819451
>just from seeing some 1s and 0s on a light display
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William shatner seems like a cool guy
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>defend the rights for women and girls

When has that been an issue for almost a century? Why single out anybody? Why not just put defend the rights for everybody?
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>>86819263
/ourguy/ indeed
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I CAN'T GET BEHIND THAT
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I never liked Kirk anyway

>>86819484
>weaponizing fashion

what did they mean by this?
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>>86819484
>well dressed
>>86819263
I prefer tng.
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>Stewart
>spends final years ruining his legacy with Emoji Movie and A Million Ways to Die in the West

>Shatner
>spends final years funposting

Really does make you think.
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>>86819551
>only america exists
typical sheltered teenager/early 20s manchild
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>>86819484
>If you get a smart modern hair cut and fitted clothes
You mean a numale haircut. Which liberals have. They also wear skinny jeans. If you have a numale haircut I'll laugh at you getting what's coming.
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All shitposting aside, isn't it amusing how the left have to spout their opinions to rapturous sensationalism and a camp, over-emotional fanfare, all the while patting eachother on the back for it

while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason

really activates the almonds
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>>86819629
Where do you think the picture was taken dumbass?
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Which rights exactly is he defending?? Why are these fucking losers never defending womens rights in places that actually need it like Pakistan or Somalia and instead in nice, clean 1st world cities?
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defend women and girls by importing muslims who want sharia

just libtard things.exe
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>>86819602
literally /our guy/
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>>86819673
but then they'd have to condemn the lives of brown people and that's a conflict on interest
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>>86819263
If only Picard would take his own advice.

https://youtu.be/hdXTohdKcm4
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a lot of people cant read very well it seems

>amnesty INTERNATIONAL
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>>86819263
>Defend rights for women and girls

What this racist islamophobe is talking about?
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>defend rights for women and girls
Who doesn't do this already? Who is against rights for women and girls?

Oh, right. Those people you can't possibly have a complaint about unless you're a vile racist bigot.
I wish they'd at least get their stories straight if they're going to stand around with placards like knob'eads.
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>>86819263
Is he implying injustice does not occur? But that's wrong.

Amnesty International is a non-governmental organization focused on human rights. Women are suffering around the world. There is injustice.

It's pretty pathetic that there are people who unironically believe the contrary because their narcissism impedes them from being rational human beings.
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>>86819602
Stewart has always been notorious for being a self absorbed, pretentious prick. Its known in the industry but since hes been more engaged in social media it's come to light to the public.
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>>86819656
earth
this isn't tv, shelter-boy
life is actually shit outside your safe space
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>British man hangs out with faggot, becomes a faggot SJW
>Leaf who fucked every co-star including green bitches and niggers, becomes based.

What a world
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>>86819698
>jew
>/ourguy/
Pick one
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>>86819652
>All shitposting aside, isn't it amusing how the left have to spout their opinions to rapturous sensationalism and a camp, over-emotional fanfare, all the while patting eachother on the back for it
It's how most people operate, frankly. Some just control it better.

>while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason
The worst part is you actually, honestly believe this.
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risk

risk is our business
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>>86819263
Is that real?
Shatner is a fucking savage
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>>86819779
>He thinks these people are protesting arabic countries where actual oppression occurs
They're nuts
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>>86819484
>anti/fa/
kek
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>>86819484
>fitted clothes
>that pic
try again
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>>86819851
https://youtu.be/rCWHe6mIgjQ?t=31s
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>>86819807
>The worst part is you actually, honestly believe this.
prove me wrong
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>>86819484
Well dressed Nazis in Germany are called Nipsters. The Rolling Stones wrote a piecee about it.
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>william shatner will probably die or go senile in a few years

I can already hear Takei mocking his entire life to great applause at his funeral.
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>>86819263
What rights are women and girls lacking?

Oh, you mean in MUSLIM countries where they practice ISLAM?

So what the sign should really say is "Stop Islam the religion of hate against women and girls"

Left tards are truly the dumbest people on the planet.
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>>86819922
Shatner will outlive them all, I promise you
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Women don't suffer any injustices in the western world. Neofeminism is a joke, and the worst thing about them is they don't even give a shit about women that actually need feminism in shit tier countries
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>>86819885
>the bible says gays are a sin
>blacks are not the same species as whites
>climate change doesnt exist because i literally refuse to look at scientific studies (beyond ones handed to me by Exxon)
to name a few
there are no logical bearings in any of these common right wing opinions, bub
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>>86819673
That would require work. This way they can feel good about themselves for making some tweets when they see a female protagonist in a blockbuster film.
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>>86819741
>>86819757
>>86819691
>>86819652#
>>86819760
>>86819930
>>86819954


no, no, no you've got it wrong.

He means the right for WESTERN women and girls to get a free pass in life by using thier pussys as ATMs and also the right for it to suppressed for anyone to point it out by slutshaming while simeltaniously also having the right to parade thier naked flesh around like hormone driven orangutans in heat but also the rights to be taken seriously in the world of work while doing these things oh and the right to slap,hit and generally be voilent to men and each other without consequence and also the right to bleed men of thier livelihoods and anchor themselves to men financially forever through law oh and also the pay gap.
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>>86819930
Amnesty international do work in the middle east

maybe right wing people are the dumbest people, hmm really makes me think
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>>86819971
they're not right-wing opinions they're the opinions of morons though

this board is too jaded by extremest cynicism, I consider myself pretty liberal but I'm simply becoming more conservative in age about certain things

doesn't mean I'm gonna start waving a kkk flag anytime soon
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>>86819954
But Jennifer Lawrence doesn't get paid as much as Christ Pratt!!!!!!
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>>86819263
Based Canadian once again showing the world how it's done
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>>86819971
This is an 18+ website
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>>86820002
exactly! It's pretty simple stuff, cishits
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>>86819263
Yes Kirk it's superior
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based
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We need to put lefties in camps. It would actually be ideal for them to live in an authoritarian regime like that.
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>>86819760
>MUH PLANNED PARENTHOOD
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>>86819263
Picktard btfo
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>>86820032
Isn't that the agents fault tho?
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>>86819792
>Jews
>not /ourguys/
I'm a Jew and fighting Jewtism with Jewtism in temple. You know not the internal struggles. Sit down boy, and let us handle it.
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>>86820019
??

That doesn't change my point you fucking moron, the point is that these women only seem to be lacking "rights" in muslim shitholes.
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>>86819263
Is the guy on the left the person that voiced Poop in that Emoji movie?
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>>86820351
and the organisation patrick stewart is promoting is trying to change that, yet you sperged out at a strawman you constructed
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>>86820351

Not until whites invaded and had their cold war proxy war in the middle east

Make you think doesn't it?
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>>86819629
As if Americunts would ever criticize any other culture but the western one, as a bunch of sheltered fucks they are. That might insult sensibilities of their brown purse puppies.
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>>86819263
Based fucking Bill is eternally /ourguy/
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Did Stewart became such a tool for his young GF or was he always one?
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>>86819652
>while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason
Except when that doesn't happen, see soccer moms
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>>86820418
His point would have come across better if he were taking the picture in one of those countries. What's his contribution, holding the sign in front of a camera for three seconds on his way home from the store?
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>>86820351

Not true. Parts of East Asia, South America and Africa are also severely lacking in women's rights. Hell, even western countries, though in ways that are comparatively minor but nonetheless deserve to be adressed.
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>>86820418
Sure, sure, an organization of frumpy white cunts promotes anything else but fundraising to keep getting fatter while they screech how Mohammed was THE first feminist. How naive you mongoloids are?
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>>86820418
This. Fighting for a borderless world is the best way to combat Islamic oppression.
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>>86819263
>males get penis cut at birth in america
>omg females are so nistreated
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>>86820571

Finally someone with some sense. Her body, her choice, polcucks.
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>>86820019
This isn't nearly the point and you're showing your blatant bias (or maybe just idiocy, I don't know).

When people do stuff like this, it's targeted at the west. When people (especially women) see this stuff, they're like "yeah! we really are super oppressed, you go Jean Luc!"

Then, they begin to look around for reasons to support the idea that they've already decided is true, that they're super oppressed. Kinda hard to find them, as they quickly find out, so they create bullshit oppression like microaggressions, nonexistent paygaps, and shit like "I'm oppressed cause the patriarchy makes me sad that I dont get catcalled anymore as much as I did when I was 21".

This is the fucking problem and this is the fucking point. Not being specific about what oppression you're butthurt about is fairly dangerous in the current online hysterical world we live in.
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>>86819263
>Shatner is a kike
>Is also based

Is this an elaborate ruse?
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What about mens rights? millennial men have shit jobs compared to the girls and high suicide rates but ya know we are disposable gender because we don't make babies
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>>86820610
Circumsized chad here. Umad male roastie?

NO one wants your gross dick in porn or irl dude. get over it.
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>>86819263
SHATNER CONFIRMED /OURGUY/

COLLAB WITH JAMES WOODS WHEN

IF YOU OBJECTIVELY LOOK AT IT, ALL THE ACTUAL VIOLENCE AND HATRED IS COMING FROM THE LEFT AND THEIR AGITATORS

WHY CANT THEY JUST STOP THEIR H8 OF AMERICA, LOVE TRUMPS HATE RIGHT? THOSE HATEFUL LITTLE LEFTIES :^)
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>>86820426
>leftards favourite word is 'slave'
>comes from 'slav' or 'slovan' - men of the word
>becomes a wor for slave because muslims were raiding them for thousand years
>ablooblooo western white imperialism, mustards were progressive before that

I know that your universities produce only retards that do nothing but write manifestos, but come on, put in at least the tiniest amount of effort
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>>86820588
>Once the whole world is ruled by Islam everyone will be oppressed equally
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>>86820723
but circumcised dicks are smaller because the skin is too tight and the head gets dried out and the peehole shrinks so not really.
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>>86820670
True. Much higher suicide rates, slowly being pushed out of areas of the work force, die at a faster rate in and out of work, are way behind in school now, and still are punished for lesser crimes or are put away far longer for the same crimes. But we're also a western nation, and Amnesty International doesn't give a shit about western men.
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>>86819263
Shatner is literally /our Dad/ now though

Why post this
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>>86820019
yeah and amnesty international also aid human traffickers to illegaly ship over hundreds of thousands of economic migrants to europe and lobby against the use of police on 'rescue boats' to stop them from illegally emptying the boats filled with migrants by human traffickers on to deck and in to europe.
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>>86820794
My nine inches are plenty. Plus it's way better looking and I last longer. More pleasure for me and my many partners. Meanwhile you jack it and blow your nutjuice in 3 seconds to tranny porn. Umad. Umad and jelly.
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>>86820829
reddit
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>>86820873
Your dick is not 9 inches and youve never had sex before. Don't lie on the internet.
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>>86820873
quality b8 i r8 it a 7/10
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>>86820873
>he measures from the taint
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>>86819484
Who would have thought that 40 years of harassment by the media and special privileges for minorities at their expense would have resulted in normal, well-dressed white people becoming white nationalists? Truly, no one could have seen this coming.
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>>86820873
only a female could make a post this silly and foolish and expect anybody to take them seriously. I'm sorry I upset you insinuating females aren't the biggest victims in need of shrivelled gay daddy crying on twitter about them.
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>>86820817
Pickard is virtusignaling by showing of charitability.
While Shatner is vritusignaling by parroting easy right wing, simplistic internet opinions on twitter.

At least Pickard is doing something of value i guess, if i had to pick one.
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>>86819263
Kirk > Sisko > Archer > Janeway >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cucks = Picard = Kelvin Kirk
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>>86821097
>At least Pickard is doing something of value i guess, if i had to pick one.

What, exactly? Holding a sign for a photo op?
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>>86820988
Dubs confirm umad. Protip: saying u not mad just makes you look matter. Heh, little nub. Welcome to my world, bitch.

>>86820916
I've actually felt vaginal walls twitch from female orgasm without stimulating the clitoris. Which no one else in this thread has. You pretend to worship white Christian chads and ignore them when they're among you. Forgive them, Lord, they know not what they do.
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>>86821097
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. You might have a point. From my view Shatner isn't sucking up to alt-right sensibilities, he even says there's nothing wrong with wanting to fight injustice, it's just that this particular type of person is known for what they are by the faux battles they choose. Picard held up a sign for two seconds while shopping - which is still doing nothing.
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>>86821097
>At least Pickard is doing something of value
what?
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>>86819301

Go back
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>>86821097
Pickard is virtuasignaling for feminist and Shatner is saiying what the sjwps do and want
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>>86821157
I think its a safe assumption that he gave some money to amnesty too. Not just a sign.
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>>86821208
Ignore the retards. They think that doing good deeds is "virtue signaling." Not all good deeds can or should be secret. It's okay to signal goodness into the world, you bitter little INCELs
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>>86821212
virtue signaling
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>>86821251
Oh no the SJW bogyman they are taking over society!
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>>86821310
They're spreading justice!!! SOCIALLY!!!
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>>86821298
>>86821212
>>86821208
see
>>86821267
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>>86821097
>Something of value.
This is what leftists redditors actually believe.
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>women dont have rights
love this meme women made so they can get brownie points
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>you just have to change society brah everything is nurture. no action needed

this is what leftists actually believe.
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>>86819484
Literally the only appeal of fascism is the aesthetic
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>>86821348
That's a write-off come tax season.
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>>86819652
>while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason
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>>86819301

And Alzheimers Stewart got influenced by kikes. What's your point? At least Shatner is breaking the mold. Stewart is just being a good goyim like everyone else.
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>>86819451
TOS is fucking retarded. If you were the captain of a naval ship on a peaceful mission. And every fucking day at least one of your crew died. Then you wouldn't be Captain long.
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>>86819602
Stewart was great in Logan, which was a good sendoff for his character.
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>>86821097
Yeah, he does what every white, leftist piece of shit - nothing, while he makes empty gestures on social medias before he fucks off back to his 100% white neighborhood.
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>>86821388

Can't argue with those Nazi dubs even though I would disagree and ethnocentrism has an appeal to a lot of people that don't want to live in a brown country.
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>>86821413
Oh boy! I guess he's cool now because he agrees with /pol/! Pol is so cool because it's normie now, right? Let's all go along with it!
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>>86819652
>while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason
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>>86821326
Who gives a shit what they do or dont do. Certain parts of the internet are acting like SJW are some kind of huge threat to our society. That has never been the case, they roam the internet and certain collages. Its just like a 100' other Internet cultures.
Remember anonymous? It seem like such a big deal, but it really wasn't. Just a bunch a teenager being loud on the internet.
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>>86819629
>thousands of Nigerian boys get murdered or conscripted
>meh
>300 Nigerian girls get kidnapped
>international incident that requires a statement from every leader in the Western world
The notion that girls are in particular danger is just a form of patriarchal over-protectiveness
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>>86821326
They poison issues with radical garbage and outright lies.
Case and point: Anita Sarkeesian
And that's why we can't have nice things.
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>>86821470

This. Leftist celebrities and the rich that advocate diversity also know the least about it.
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>>86821413
How is old white guy being sexist... breaking the mold. That is the fucking mold.
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>>86821157
>hurr what is PR hurr what are signs for
>how does human communication work
You know a discussion is about to take a nosedive when Kekistanis start playing dumb.
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>>86821390
Sure, but amnesty can probably use it to some extent, so there is some value, right?
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>>86821326
That is funny. Socialist swines were also waffling about social justice and equality while they killed million of people in Europe.
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>>86821408
>>86821507

look you can't even refute it with a statement your just implying it wrong emotionally with gold with reaction images and want to socially vilify the wrong think like some Brave New World.
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>>86821560
use for what launder money
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>>86821413
>At least Shatner is breaking the mold. Stewart is just being a good goyim like everyone else.
Did you notice we are currently living under a conservative establishment?
>inb4 muh deep state
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>>86821492

What does it have to do with being cool you mouth breathing retard? Usually seeking the truth is the least "cool" thing you can do. The cool thing to do would spout empty leftist rhetoric on social media and virtue signal about how your neighbor has an interracial baby and it's "adorable"
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>>86821535
Exactly. Justice must be stopped. That's what we stand for. I didn't campaign for Trump for SJWs to spread Justice Socially through War. SHADILAY AND ONWARD TO KEKISTAN

>>86821518
Buttmad hitlery supporter detected
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>>86819484
>this is considered well dressed in the US.
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>>86821576
>while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason
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>>86821560
Depends on what the money's used for and how. Do you know AI's background and current dealings?
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william is /ourguy/

glad with how old he is, he's still pretty darn good looking and lost none of his mental capacity that much
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How is shatner wrong?.

Sjw invent Injustices and complain about stuff shit like celebrities not making enough millions or diversity in SW.
When they are worried about isis Literally enslaving women then we can talk.
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>>86821602
just post your images and get done with it you autist
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>>86821593
It's cool because it makes libuck shills like you mad. We're going to btfo all you cucks. We're the cool counter-culture now. You lost. Hillary is going to jail any day now. Get over it
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>>86821581
I'm sure you can look up what they do with donation if you really are curios. Lets not be totally stupid here.
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>>86821541

Yep. My conservacuck mom thinks I'm wasting my time, but we are literally bashing the fash on here, comrade.
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>>86821590
>Did you notice we are currently living under a conservative establishment?
One that's a slave to the jews like all the others.
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>>86821658
yeah anon im sure ill believe their sites
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>>86821636
Only image I'll ever need is ones of this guy. Got one on my wall with Pepe.
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Stewart plays the feminist to get that fresh pussy.
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>>86821536
Yeah, remember the champion of open borders, diversity and multiculturalism, George Clooney? He fucked off from Britain to hide in his LA mansion due to 'worsened security situation'
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>>86821492
>Let's all go along with it!
>all

The only place you will go to is pic related.
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>>86821623
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141107091559.htm
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>>86821590
Dude, the prevailing ideology is progressive. Tinder, gay pride, black history month, legalized pornography, women's rights are not conservative. I'm not saying that we should get rid of these things, but we clearly do not live in a conservative culture.
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>>86820028
>they're not right-wing opinions they're the opinions of morons though
>these obviously conservative positions don't count because they go against my argument
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>>86821677
Then make up yourself what they do, for fuck sake, why are you even arguing about this?
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>>86821590
THE SOCIAL ESTABLISHMENT IS OVERWHELMINGLY LEFTIST

TO THE POINT WHERE SOMEONE CLAIMING YOUR AN NAZI WILL GET YOU INSTANTLY FIRED AND BLACKBALLED FROM SOCIETY

THATS HOW U KNOW WHOS THE REAL FASCISTS, ITS THE LEFT :^)
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>>86821747
they launder money like every charity there
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>>86821707
Exactly. As I put the trash into the oven. Day of the Rope is coming. SHADILAY AND ONWARD TO KEKISTAN
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>>86821602
Dont you have a protest to attend you faggot
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>Shatner once again proven to be the better captain
Pretty good desu
>>86821686
Will Shatner get kiked for this?
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>>86821576
It's because it's such an asinine statement that it doesn't need refuting. It's like saying the world is flat, and then when someone laughs at you, you turn around and tell them they didn't refute it.

Same thing. The shit the right says isn't logical, or rational. It's based on hated and nothing more.

It's not logical or rational to have statues dedicated to slavery.
It's not logical or rational to side with white supremacists.
It's not logical or rational to be against the idea of climate change.
It's not logical or rational to remove regulations that are there to prevent corporate fuckery.
It's not logical or rational to want a pure capitalist society.
It's not logical or rational to say there is nothing wrong with guns, it's the few fucking it up for the many. Then turn around and say we need to ban Muslims because the few are fucking it up for the many (this one applies in vise versa to the left as well).
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>>86821716
see>>86819971
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>>86821576
just off the top of my head
>Milo: trans are over represented in violent crime thats why trannies are bad ok
>they are over represented, but as victims not as perpetrators
Also really nigger I don't care if you're left or right when you spout bullshit like "My side is infallible and logical masterminds" I'm not going to take you seriously. Also off the top of my head
>who is Katie "India is not a country" Hopkins
>who is Alex "Glenn Beck is a CIA double agent" Jones
Am I being baited here? Are you acting dumb as some kind of elaborate scheme?
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>>86819263
daily reminder that shatner post in /mlp/ and /b/
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>>86821784
the american left everybody
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>>86821762
Okay man. Got a source, or was it something you heard once and decided you belivede it too?
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>>86821753
100% this. And the only person standing up for ethno nationalists like myself is the current president, Donald Trump. If not for him, I'm sure i'd be rounded up, have my guns taken away, and murdered.
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>>86821825
dude if you want to donate to save the opressed women in beverly hills charity you do it, im not giving my money to some fat fuck to pretend he helps people
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>>86819263
The biggest problem with SJWs is they demand that everyone partake in their agenda.

It completely goes over their head that their privelege is the reason they have the time and motivation to attempt to fight for these people's rights. Demanding that those same people also stand up for those ideals is a little ridiculous when most of the people who are suppressed have to worry about paying their bills or feeding their children.
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>>86821753
Hey asswipe, a whole world war was fought over national socialism, so yes its a taboo for GOOD FUCKIB REASON. I hope you publicly identify as one so you can get your ass fired.
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>>86821778
Only way I attend protests is with my bigass truck, motherfucking shill. We'll get you too, don't worry. Trump will make the moves on the same day he arrests Hitlery.
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>>86821753
>SOMEONE CLAIMING YOUR AN NAZI
Holding up a nazi flag doesn't help based 'pede
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>>86821799
you're not even coherent. go check into a mental health clinic
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>>86821753
but all of that is true. Hell a guy was stabbed because he had a short haircut and some antifa loon thought that made him a nazi. Not to mention the reporters that are attacked by antifa like that woman from TheHill who was punched at the Charlottesville rally.
Or the Boston Free Speech rally being deemed an "alt-right white supremacist" rally even though it was put together by people carrying signs that read "Black Lives Do Matter".
Face it m8, liberals are just useful idiots.
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>>86821824
I'm not left fucktard. You'd know that be reading the full post. But I'm guessing reading isn't a strong suit of yours.

I'm moderate.
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>>86821590
>entertainment industry is exclusively leftist
>education system is almost exclusively leftist
>book industry will openly ostracize right wing authors, Hugo awards outright bans them, while King, Rowling or GRRM endorse their action

Because society is just government, right?
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>>86821869
Typical leftist "tolerance." Thank God we have Trump standing up to bullies like you. Otherwise the white race might already be gone.
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>>86821868

>mfw people on the ground were reporting that they could tell the Antifa were coming because they could smell them

Fucking savages. I knew college kids could have bad hygiene but that is pretty bad.
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>>86821906
>full capitalistic society is bad
>moderate
nah youre just some dumb american socialist, the worst kind of socialist
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>>86821923
t. someone mad that all the girls he likes keep getting blacked.
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>>86821906
Oh wow, you're a moderate. I bet you like South Park, dude. So neutral, bro. Just don't have opinions, right friend?

Fuck off you Jewish shill. Nimble navigators like us will always recognize (((you))) for what you are.
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>>86821784
>It's not logical or rational to have statues dedicated to slavery.
Which statues would these be?
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>>86821869

>a whole war

And we spent decades fighting the evils of communism. What is your point, comrade? Your talking points are shit.
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>>86821944
Not him, but if you think "full capitalist is bad" = "socialist" then you're a fucking retard.
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>>86821518
They dominate HR departments across the country. A guy got fired from Google for holding the horribly offensive view that men and women are different. You don't interact with these people because you don't work for a large institution. SJWs aren't an internet phenomenon, they're a real world phenomenon that spilled onto the internet.
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>>86821944
Once more, you with the lack of reading comprehension despite you quoting a key word there.

FULL. We cannot have purely Capitalist or purely socialist society. We need a 50/50 split to prevent fuckery on both ends. The right want one, the left want the other. One promotes greed, the other promotes laziness.
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>>86821906

>I'm moderate

Also known as holding no real convictions at all and essentially being a waste of oxygen.
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>>86821923
The war was fought, you lost.
Accept it and be glad we don't gas you like your com-padres used to do.
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>>86821984
well its that or a facist
since dumb ass americans think liberals are the same as libertarians
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>>86821954
Coal burners and race traitors will die. You're all shitting your pants over Charlottesville. Then you'll easy prey on the Day of the Rope.
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>>86821866
Where did you get the idea i wanted to give them money? All i said amnesty could probably use the money for something of value, but all you have done is claim they lauder the money.

I know there is a huge overhead involved in clarity, but they do get some stuff done. I don't know if its in proportion to the money they get or not. But at least I'm not pulling shit from my ass.

You are being the typical internet shit, making up your own truths as you go along. Lets stick to what has been actually said.
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>>86821976
All the confederate ones.
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>>86822013
>holding no real convictions
What gives you that idea? He lists several convictions in his post.
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>>86821993
How are they different? Yeah that's what I thought sexist.
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>>86819301
Can you dispute anything he said in that post? Seems pretty bang accurate to me.


Also, back to r*ddit.
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>>86821824
>kekistanis trying to join the big guy's table with their not-arguments
Kindly fuck off back to degenereddit tbqhwu famalam don't you have a based black man's shlong to nibble on?
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>>86821784
>It's not logical or rational to remove regulations that are there to prevent corporate fuckery.

Ahahahaha, oh my fucking god, there is some leftist fucktard who think he isn't an absolute corporatist stooge. This is the state of Americunt left.
Every single one of progressive talking points is a direct benefit to corporations.
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>>86822037
lol you just said that he ''probably'' donated money to some shitty charity lmao why are you so mad that charities suck are you part of one
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Jesus, get back to the /pol/ ghetto you fucks
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>>86822016
We only lost because Jews stabbed us in the back and made up the holohaux. Trump will not fall into the same trap though. He's too smart for that.
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>>86820019
Amnesty international isn't doing shit you fucking faggot nigger
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>>86821906
Anyone who dares to insult "Daddy Trump" is a leftist in nu/pol/'s eyes.
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>>86822046
m8, I agree with most of your points except that. A monument to a confederate soldier or general does not, in and of itself, venerate slavery. It's clear you have no understanding of the topic.
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>>86822074
Don't take the Lord's name in vain
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>>86822013
No, I hold rational convictions. Which is something the right and to an extent the left don't have. They're both basing all their convictions on emotion.
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>>86822085
They have a very influential twitter account. Spreading information is as important as anything else.
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Penis in my anus.
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>>86821941
>I knew college kids could have bad hygiene
And you wouldn't know because you are a) a NEET b) too poor/spicshit to go to college?
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>>86822118

>Which is something the right and to an extent the left don't have

Found the lefty fag larping as a moderate.
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>>86821784
I want to point out that Richard Spencer agrees with most of those points. You should do a better job of researching your enemies.
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>>86821869
Hey, every kind of socialist should be hanged, not just national ones, since the filth does nothing but wreck nations and kill people they claim to champion.
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>>86822110
kys Nazi
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>>86822118
just stop pretending youre not a socialist dude
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>>86822072
>you so mad that charities suck are you part of one

You are clearly not getting this. Are you really this dense? Try to reread what I have been saying(the whole thread).
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>>86822158

>Not graduating long ago
>Being young enough to be in college

When do classes start for you retards?
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>>86822071
Except it was the corporations and the banks that fucked over the country because they WEREN'T regulated. This is what caused the housing collapse and the need for a fucking bailout. Afterwards Obama put up regulations to prevent this type of bullshit from happening again. And one of the first things Trump did was remove those regulations, and guess what... they've started doing it AGAIN.
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>>86822159
>lefty larp kys cringe af
You know how I know you're too young to be here?
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>>86822077
Of course not. He doesn't support Israel in the slightest. Right? Right?
Its funny to me how a nation that got put into walled Ghetto's now do the very same thing to Palestinians. They are going to pay hard for this.
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>>86822199
youre saying that some old stupid actor holding some dumb sign is changing the world and he ''probably'' donated to some shitty charity that does nothing
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>>86821784
>It's not logical or rational to have statues dedicated to slavery
The statues are memorializing the people who died on both sides of the civil war you troglodyte. What do you want to do next, go into Arlington and dig up the graves of confederates?
>It's not logical or rational to side with white supremacists.
Its not rational to be on the same sides as communists and anarchists either.
>It's not logical or rational to be against the idea of climate change.
agreed but the answer isn't to cripple your own economy
>It's not logical or rational to remove regulations that are there to prevent corporate fuckery.
agreed
>It's not logical or rational to want a pure capitalist society
False.
>It's not logical or rational to say there is nothing wrong with guns, it's the few fucking it up for the many.
The right to bear arms is enshrined within our bill of rights, the second amendment is what guarantees our government doesn't fall into tyranny. Furthermore guns are also responsible for protecting lives.
>say we need to ban Muslims because the few are fucking it up for the many
We aren't banning muslims you idiot, we're restricting travel from countries that have a poorly functioning government, strong terrorist organizations and are unable to meet our security standards. If we were banning Muslims why wouldn't we ban travel from Saudi Arabia?
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>>86822188
Let's do it together darling.
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>>86822194
What part of "we need capitalism to prevent laziness" and "we need socialism to prevent greed" makes me a socialist? Please, bring me down to your level of retardedness and explain to me your thought process so I can at least try to understand.
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This is what our society has become by following the degenerate liberal ideas of "equality, feminism, multiculturalism". The only thing that will save us is the Day of the Rope. Either that or the white race goes extinct in the near future.
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>>86821731
Hitler was progressive.
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Libtards BTFO
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>>86819652
>while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason
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>>86822282
>want socialism
>not a socialist
when you actually look outside of the USA you might see why socialism is bad
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>>86822225
Listen you fucking retard, the housing collapse was CAUSED by regulation. If there wasn't a GOVERNMENT program that required banks to issue mortgages to at-risk poor minorities, then you wouldn't have had an inflationary housing bubble.

If the cost of complying with regulations wasn't so steep, you'd have more small banks willing to compete with larger ones and the whole "too big to fail" phenomenon wouldn't have occurred.
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>>86822253
>The right to bear arms is enshrined within our bill of rights, the second amendment is what guarantees our government doesn't fall into tyranny. Furthermore guns are also responsible for protecting lives.
We don't live in the fucking 1700s anymore.
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>>86822239
Trump is making deals like the master deal maker he is. He's using Israel and will destroy them when necessary.
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>>86822365
>logic
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Everything is fucked. Fuck everything.
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>>86822297
Exactly. Conservatism is a bulwark against the far right and the far left.
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>>86819652
>while on the other hand right wing opinions are usually just somebody making a statement with cold logic and reason
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>>86822382
Most of all, fuck drumpf
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>>86822253
>The statues are memorializing the people who died on both sides of the civil war you troglodyte. What do you want to do next, go into Arlington and dig up the graves of confederates?
And that can be done in a Museum. The statues are there HONORING people who fought for the right to own slaves.
>Its not rational to be on the same sides as communists and anarchists either.
I never said it was.
>False.
Not false. A pure capitalist society cannot exist. It promotes greed (as we can see in the US) with the removal of regulations trying to get rid of unions, paying to have people put in jail, etc. Everything they can do to make even more money.
>We aren't banning muslims you idiot, we're restricting travel from countries that have a poorly functioning government
Punishing the whole, because the action of the few. Same way with people who want to ban guns. Because a few people do dumb shit.
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>>86822283
OH GOD! THERE'S SMOKE AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING SEX!!!!

Wait...isn't that the 1950s in Mad Men?
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>>86822302
I really hope "internet free speech" is removed next

I can't wait to seem them regret it right away
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>>86822365
not an argument
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>>86822313
And you completely ignored where I said we need Capitalism? How the fuck did you survive infancy being so dumb?
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>>86822410
I cannot fathom a human being who would disrespect the lawfully elected president of the United States. I bet you worship that nigger Obongo, you libcuck. Can't wait to beat your head in at the next protest.
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>>86822449
yeah we can be just like venezuela
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>>86822365
You're right. People actually use firearms for pest control in rural areas and in self defense to a much larger degree than anyone in the 1700's ever did.
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>>86822253
>>86822365
We all know that it's impossible to actually "take away" guns in the USA and that not just guns are responsible for all these deaths. The US is a fucked up country and its entire culture is the shittiest I have ever witnessed.
Gun rights and laws are important, but actually taking them away is impossible.
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>>86822355
No, no it wasn't.

It was because there was ZERO fucking regulation on Hedge fun management. And no regulations on housing loans, etc.
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>>86822055
You got me. Vaginas and estrogen are social constructs
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>>86822245
I'm saying it has some value, as opposed to tweeting about SJW's which is totally pointless.
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>>86822225
Ahahahaha, oh my god, he thinks the bubble wasn't growing steadily long time before Trump, also thanks to the Obama's bailouts.
Also, progressives aren't doing shit against the corporations and in many cases they became their mouth pieces.
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>>86822411
>The statues are there HONORING people who fought for the right to own slaves.
>northern education
Yes confederates fought for the right to govern their own states instead of bending to federal demands. Honestly if you think all confederates owned slaves or that none of them fought due to loyalty to their home you might actually be retarded.
>Punishing the whole, because the action of the few
Except its not the whole, its specific countries with shit tier governments and security standards.
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>>86822411
>The statues are there HONORING people who fought for the right to own slaves.
To imply fallen confederate soldiers fought for only that is just retarded. You have absolutely no understanding of the topic. Educate yourself.
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>>86822518
what value? his shilling for money laudering schemes and virtue signiling for some dumb feminists, you can say the same about the other dude as speaking out against the dumb left, you just agree with one more
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>>86822283
Oh shit its a parrot. Keep your narrative strong bird!
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>>86822365
>It's 200017!
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>>86820524
>soccer moms
Oh, so women have bad opinions? Welcome to the internet
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>>86822488
>but actually taking them away is impossible
As it should be. I'd rather be able to defend myself than be cucked like Europe.
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>>86822490
>Under Clinton's Housing and Urban Development (HUD) secretary, Andrew Cuomo, Community Reinvestment Act regulators gave banks higher ratings for home loans made in "credit-deprived" areas. Banks were effectively rewarded for throwing out sound underwriting standards and writing loans to those who were at high risk of defaulting. If banks didn't comply with these rules, regulators reined in their ability to expand lending and deposits.

>These new HUD rules lowered down payments from the traditional 20 percent to 3 percent by 1995 and zero down-payments by 2000. What's more, in the Clinton push to issue home loans to lower income borrowers, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made a common practice to virtually end credit documentation, low credit scores were disregarded, and income and job history was also thrown aside. The phrase "subprime" became commonplace. What an understatement.

>Next, the Clinton administration's rules ordered the taxpayer-backed Fannie and Freddie to expand their quotas of risky loans from 30 percent of portfolio to 50 percent as part of a big push to expand home ownership.

It was proto-SJWs who wanted minorities to own houses who fucked everything up. This is a well-established fact.
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Since we're going to have a neocon president for the next 4-8 years, how long do you estimate will it take for teenage edgelords to shift back to leftism? I estimate 1 more year before the new wave hits. It'll be fun.
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>>86822523
It was growing, for decades because there was NO regulation. Reagan removed the regulations that were in place, and for decades they fucked shit over until finally it all came crashing down during the Bush / Obama change over. And THEN Obama added regulations to prevent it from happening again. Regulations which Trump removed and we see the Banks doing shit again, except this time with Car loans and not house loans.
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>live too far away to fight in the upcoming American civil far

FUCK
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>>86822583
BTFO!!! Fucking own'd you fucking libcuck shits. SHADILAY AND ONWARD TO KEKISTAN
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>>86821731
>Tinder
gross
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>>86822590
Don't pretend the US isn't more "cucked" than Europe ever could be.
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>>86822610
>shift back
>implying they ever left
most are still far-left.
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>>86822629
You're economically illiterate. Shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>86822610
I'm thinking two years at least.
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>>86822571
>his shilling for money laudering schemes
Again whit your personal "facts"
Lets see a link, Im willing to belive amnesty has been involved in something like it. But I definitely need some prof of it.
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>>86822608
>This is a well-established fact.
>no source
This isn't /pol/ where youngsters swallow everything you projectile vomit into their mouths. I expected better from a tripfag.
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>>86822435
Yes it very much is. We don't operate the same way they did back then. Our lives have to progress as we do. And firearms in the hands of the common pleb is an absolute fucking mistake.

And the thousands that die annually here as a result of it are proof enough.
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>>86819263
Shatner unironically became Denny Crane
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>all this talk about muh left muh right
That's not how """"""politics"""""" work you useful dumbasses.

WAKE THE HELL UP
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>>86822610
As long as HR culture remains a thing, kids will rebel against it.
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>>86822542
>>86822548
Clearly you're not educated. The original states all explicitly list slavery as their primary reason for secession in their Declarations of Causes.

Read the Declarations of Causes of Separation and you will see that the PRIMARY reason stated again and again and again, after paragraph after paragraph was the the North was infringing on their slaving rights.
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>>86822412
>R*ddit - the post
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>it's a mods keep a political thread up to keep the r/antifa and r/the_donald posters contained episode

Based mods.
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>>86822702
>common pleb
>advocating for only the government and elite to own firearms
kys fascist
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>>86822696
This isn't /v/ either yet you're still here and don't know local mexican trips?
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>>86822681
t. lost argument so resort to ad hominem attacks.
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>>86822738
More like to keep people fighting to appease their overlords.
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>>86822702
>firearms in the hands of the common pleb is an absolute fucking mistake
Yes I'd much rather the only people who are able to have firearms are the government and criminals. How about we get rid of free speech next? I mean we don't live in the 1700's anymore.
Then the right to assembly after that because its the current year.
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>>86819301
fuck off shatner is /ourguy/
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>>86822727
And many southern men enlisted to fight simply to defend their homes from an invading army. Educate yourself anon.
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>>86820873
measuring it from your prostate out does not count, cutcuck.
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>>86819649
>waah waah if liberals do it too its bad!!!!!!
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>>86822696
Sorry, my source was the far-right neo-Nazi /pol/ publication known as CNBC

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/28/are-the-clintons-the-real-housing-crash-villains.html

>>86822774
I've provided arguments and sources. Your entire thesis doesn't go further than "muh regulations!"
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>>86822672
Edgelordism ever since Gamergate has been right wing flavored. Why do you think /pol/ was flooded with teenagers?
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>>86822610
Trump isn't neocon. I don't think he really has an ideology beyond $$$. Retarded nationalists think Trump supports them, but he couldn't give less of a fuck about them if he doesn't think there's something in it for him. Soon enough they'll be back in the fringe where they belong, together with the far-left insane SJWs.
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>>86821122
Both Kirk and Picard were great captains and you can't judge the quality of a character portrayal based on the actor's politics
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>>86822795
And they fucking lost. So why do we have statues honoring these losers who fought for a war started because of slavery?

Oh and Robert E Lee was adamant about NOT having confederate statues.
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>>86822824
Every non-self hating white person is right wing now

>waah muh /pol/
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>>86822720
HR?
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>>86822410
>Most of all, fuck drumpf
N FUUUUUUUCK WYPIPPO
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>>86821388
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>>86822727
You know that Madison, Washington and Franklin owned slaves right? Time to tear down their statues.
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>>86822804
Umad. And jelly.
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>>86822861
>why do we have statues honoring AMERICANS who fought a war against the federal government
Gee anon, its almost like the country moved on. Former confederates fought in the Spanish-American war.
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>>86822869
>Every non-self hating white person is right wing now
That's not what I said retard. It was an observation not accusation. Playing dumb again to derail conversations?
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>>86822872
Human resources. Once you get a real job you'll start to hate SJWs with a fucking fury. I used to be a leftist back in 2013.
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>>86819602
>spends final years ruining his legacy

His legacy of what, exactly? Being on fucking Star Trek? X-Men? Playing King Richard in Mel Brooks' Robin Hood: Men in Tights? Oh what a humiliation for a knighted actor to find humor and amusement in doing projects that your average fat loser /tv/ shitposter frowns upon. How will this acclaimed and beloved British thespian ever recover?!
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>>86822884
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>>86822365
See what gun control did to Venezuela you naive idiot.

Liberals really think that tyrannical government dont happen anymore, for reasons... there's nothing better for a commie dictator than disarmed helpless population.
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>>86822885
Did they fight for the right to own slaves? Is that what they are known for?
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>>86822861
>So why do we have statues honoring these losers
They were still Americans, and their descendants care about honoring them even if you don't. I grew up in California for fucks sake and I still have the basic empathy to understand why people might want to keep those statues around. Jumping to the conclusion that slavery is the only thing the statues address is just pure autism anon.
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>>86822030
lol @ dying in a race war because your women are whores. what a life.
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>>86822984
What are you trying to imply here? That Donald is fascist? Oh god, if only it were so...
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>>86822984
Trump is a zionist puppet
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>>86819652

lol
20 years ago i would have agreed but ever since the tea party the right wing has become progressively more and more unhinged. alex jones is the only non-"fake news" in their eyes now
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>>86823002
That's not what confederates are known for except in the north.
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>>86822984
Go to the South. I was in the nicer parts of Virginia a couple months ago and I saw nothing but 9s with Make America Great Again hats
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>this thread
cringe
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>>86822955
You just starting hating over-zealous student activists who think they figured out everything.

It was opposite for me, voted conservative first two times, but now that me and the folks I know have jobs I feel like I can understand the left/green parties to some degree.
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>>86819757
>Who doesn't do this already?

Did you forget you're on /tv/? Did you have an Aleppo moment? Literally every day you fuckers bitch and whine about women and how they're all slut and degenerate whores who should weld their vaginas shut and go back to being 50s house mothers. You know, between cunny threads and claiming dibs on celebrities actresses as your personal favorite waifu.
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>>86819263
WTF, I love kirk now???
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>>86822750
>>86822783
>WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TO HAVE ALL THE GUNS OMFG DO YOU WANT A FASCIST REGIME TO TAKEOVER OMG YOU WONT BE ABLE TO DEFEND YOURSELF

First off, get over your fucking paranoid hero complexes.

Secondly, the use for guns in the 1700s was primarily defense against British Occupation. Now they've become a luxury long since abused by ignorant morons that have NO right carrying a gun.

Owning a gun isn't a right you fucking dipshits. It's a paid-for-privilege. And you would rather have random, psychopathic RETARDS running around with extremely dangerous weapons rather than people that are ordered to maintain structure in our society.

You fucking people are weird.
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>>86821906
>I'm not leftist, I just believe everything the left says...

How are people still replying to this idiot.
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>>86823096
And the south is known for nothing but incest and sweet tea. It's clear who is in the right here.
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>>86819263
>this whole fucking thread
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>>86823093
its funny how libtards think they understand the right
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>>86823152
SHALL
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>>86823163
not an argument
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>>86823170
>people of differing opinions having comprehensive discussions, voicing their reasons
>they get a bit tense

>OH MY GOD SHUT UP ALL OF YOU US CENTRISTS ARE JUST SO SMART

Fucking piss off you coward. If you aren't willing to have an opinion on something and be willing to defend it, then don't chime in with your inane condescension.
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>>86823170
Your mistake was living in a country with 300 million people and 2 parties.
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>>86823135
>You just starting hating over-zealous student activists who think they figured out everything.
40 year old black women who convince employers that diversity seminars are useful and necessary are not the same as sheltered student activists.
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>>86823096
The Civil War WAS ABOUT SLAVERY. Flat out. The original states outright say this in their declaration of causes. So honoring people who fought for this side would be like honoring the Nazi soldiers.
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>>86823152
>Now they've become a luxury
You're clearly some retard that thinks the city you live in is the center of the universe. People use firearms for pest control and hunting in rural areas EVERYDAY. Educate yourself.
>Owning a gun isn't a right you fucking dipshits
The Supreme Court disagrees. Cry more bitchboy.
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>>86819629
Yes, holding up a sign while strolling around the U.S. will surely help all the young girls getting fucked into insanity in Saudi Arabia.
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>>86822984
Is over guys, we can only vote democrat to become super manly.

PLEASE RUN AGAIN HILLARY WE NEED YOU.
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>>86823152
>Owning a gun isn't a right you fucking dipshits
>The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Are you retarded?
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>>86823279
Shitposting on an anonymous imageboard sure as fuck won't.
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>>86823093
Blame Gingrich for opening that can of worms
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>>86823314
at least im having fun
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>>86823267
Yes because all confederates fought for muh slaves even though it was a vast minority of southerners who owned them. Really makes me think.
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>>86820418
I have yet to see that bald fuck or any other SJW hold a sign like that in fucking arabic language because it should be directed at muslims not english speaking westerners you tard
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>>86823256
As opposed to some European country, where a single party can often dominate because the opposition can't reach a consensus. Imagine living in a country where you know who's going to be head of the government before the election occurs? Imagine living in a country where the party not the people choose their candidate?
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>>86823333
And Stewart isn't?
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>>86823267
>The Civil War WAS ABOUT SLAVERY. Flat out.
To pretend like it was the only issue involved is dumb. If you won't read a history book, there's no helping you.
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>>86823294
>acting this triggered
get a hold of yourself
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>>86823334
And all Nazi soldiers surely fought because they hate Jews right? No. Yet we still don't honor them for fighting for their side even though they might not have agreed with it.
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>>86823360
i doubt anybody finda it fun when those dumb activists stop you in the street to talk about their dumb charities when youre just trying to get home
but what the hell all actors are fucked in the head anyway
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>all of these r/antifa fags and r/the donald fags
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>>86823295
>>86823270
>>86823193
So let me get this straight...

You guys are so worried about some kind of fascist regime taking over without the lack to defend yourselves...

But yet you are willing to listen to the Supreme Court as the highest law in the land to dictate what is a "right" for you?

Wow sounds like you're completely willing to bend to the government's every word, huh?

And yes, it ISN'T a right. It's a corporate manufactured item, a privilege bought in stores. You aren't meant to have them, you have no natural rights to them.

And you're willing to push your ridiculous fantasies about "self-defense" and "fascist regimes" to buy into the bullcock the NRA sells you.
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>>86823357
>Imagine living in a country where the party not the people choose their candidate?
Imagine living in a country where the party's platform matters instead of a retarded personality cult?
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>>86823376
It's also dumb to romanticize and revise history to a point of saying the South did nothing wrong in the civil war and future will prove their side to have been right. That's what some confederate statues literally have inscribed on them.
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>>86823376
It was the major issue. What you need to read is the Declaration of Causes. You will see that paragraph after paragraph continually points out the the right to own slaves is the primary cause in everyone of the original states. It WAS the deciding factor. You're the one who needs to be educated.
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>>86823398
>Yet we still don't honor them for fighting
There are monuments to German servicemen that fought in ww2. Educate yourself retard.
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>>86819263
>Based Bill
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>>86823314
They are pretty much the same chance.
At least our shitposts dont use wood and paper, you know for the environment.
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>>86823417
Such a pathetic response.
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>>86823444
I can't. Politics is inherently tribal. If you make it about issues, then all politicians will do is race to appease the crowd's wishes, rather than lead them. The less the crowd is listened to, the better.
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>the Civil War wasn't about salvery
I swear to god the right gets dumber and dumber.

Some dumb fake bullshit you read on /pol/ or the Drudge Report doesn't overshadow the fact that the Civil War was literally about slavery at its core.
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>>86823497
>They are pretty much the same chance.
Not really, no.
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>>86823443
>But yet you are willing to listen to the Supreme Court as the highest law in the land to dictate what is a "right" for you?
Only that they ALSO share the same view that it is a fundamental right. When both the constitution and the highest court of the land call you a retard, you know you've got something.
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>>86823360
Look at that pic, he looks like someone shove a stick up his ass.
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>>86823357
>As opposed to some European country, where a single party can often dominate
And it's different in the States how exactly? You know what "winner takes all" means right?
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>>86823507
what, are you saying actors are not fucked up in the head
have you seen what they do
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>>86823444
#roasted
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>>86823357
Imagine a country where your choice is being either right wing or even more right wing, and nothing still gets done after you win the election and have the majority in all branches of government because your party only knows how to complain.
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>>86823523
They're teenagers. Hopefully they'll grow out of it.
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>>86823467
Towns have plaques set up that list all the WWI and WWII soldiers of those towns that died. There are monuments dedicated to German soldiers who tried to HELP the Jews escape and so on. But there are no statures around Germany honoring Nazi's.

Educate yourself retard.
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>>86823464
>It's also dumb to romanticize and revise history to a point of saying the South did nothing wrong in the civil war
Nice strawman. Be sure to keep it handy.
>>86823465
> What you need to read is the Declaration of Causes.
What you need to understand is that individual soldiers were fighting for independence for many different reasons, chief of which may have been a northern army fucking invading. Good luck with your life illiterate anon. You're going to need it.
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>>86823170
>Centrist are so up their asses they don't realize they are nothing more than a third Political position

And they claim they are "right" just because they are "centrist", retards.
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>>86823139
I don't do any of that. "Who doesn't do this already?" was a rhetorical question, a bit facetious but genuine.
I mean, who doesn't care about the rights of women and girls? And I hate those threads and attitudes as much as you, for the record. Probably more.
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>>86823523
It obviously was, but that doesn't excuse raping our history by destroying our symbols and monuments.

>>86823542
It's pretty different in the states given how much power local governments hold. I could move to Vermont and live in what is basically Denmark, and I can move to Texas and live in what is basically Singapore. Power is more diffuse in the US than it is in Europe.
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>>86823597
>that list all the WWI and WWII soldiers of those towns that died.
>WWII soldiers
Oh my god, they're honoring those filthy nazis!!!!!
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>>86823600
The motivation of individual footsoldiers matters jackshit in retrospect of any war.
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>>86823538
They share that view because they have harped on their traditionalism in listening to the 2nd amendment.

A law that was substantiated at a time where a foreign entity was fighting us for control of our own soil. Where this foreign entity would barge into our homes without reason or lawful purpose, and take what was not theirs.

And the need for firearms became self-defense, not pleasure and as "convenient" items for pest control.

The Supreme Court needs to change that law, amend it or remove it. Simple as that.

It's a ridiculous backwards way of thinking that firearms are a natural born right.
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>>86823600
Irrelevant what they were fighting for. The war was ABOUT slavery. There side was ABOUT slavery. They fucking lost. They don't deserve statures honoring them. The Nazi's don't have statues honoring them, and I highly doubt ever soldier fought because they hated Jews.
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>>86823523
>the Civil War wasn't about salvery
No one said this dumbass. Learn to read.
>>86823593
You too.
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>>86823584
Sounds like heaven tbqh. A world free from an effectual government would bring us nothing but peace and economic prosperity. Government is garbage and should do as little as possible.
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>>86823664
>being this mad that people want to honor their ancestors
lmao even south korea has monuments honoring the dead in the war from both sides and they are still at war
are you black
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>>86823680
>You too.
I fucking wish man.
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>>86823646
>The motivation of individual footsoldiers matters jackshit in retrospect of any war.
It should when you set up a monument to their deaths. They were still men with families. To vilify them is quite a stretch. Learn some basic empathy anon.
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>>86823641
Those plaques aren't honoring anyone. It's simply listing the names of the soldiers from those towns who died. Nothing more. There is no statue commemorating these people and their actions.
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>>86822283
If the white race goes extinct and nonwhites slide into Brazil-style desperation everywhere, do you think they'd ever realize it was whites that kept them prosperous?
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>>86823664
>The Nazi's don't have statues honoring them, and I highly doubt ever soldier fought because they hated Jews.
see >>86823467
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>>86823732
>They were still men with families. To vilify them is quite a stretch.
How many Wehrmacht monuments do you think stand in Germany?
>Learn some basic empathy anon.
Lol yeah but when a nigger got shot and Obama offered simple condolences it was your side who bitched about it to no end.
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>>86823744
>It's simply listing the names of the soldiers from those towns who died. Nothing more.
how is this any different from a statue representing all the dead?
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>>86823721
>are you black
Nope, but I'm not a redneck hillbilly. So I don't understand the desire to honor people who fought for the right to own slaves. There is literally no argument to be made for these statues.

"Mah history"
"They fought for their side"
"It's not racist"

These are all easily countered as I had done. Put the statues in a museum and be done with it.
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This is a 225 year old monument to Christopher Columbus. One of the oldest in the United States (which is a young country). It was destroyed a couple days ago by a Black Lives Matter activist.

They're not going to stop at Confederate monuments. The vandals are going to start targeting famous slave-holders like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
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>>86823823
>How many Wehrmacht monuments do you think stand in Germany?
They have many dedicated to those that died in the war. Learn the difference autismo.
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>>86823835
im not even american, but why do you hate them so much every country in the world has statues about uprisings and stuff like that in public places
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>>86823747
>gibmonkeys starve under socialism
>answer is another socialist regime, everytime

I am sure this time they will realize it. About as much as gibmonkeys in South Afrika install more and more affirmative action laws that decimate the rank of specialized workers that keep country running.
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>>86823835
>So I don't understand the desire to honor people who fought for the right to own slaves.
Because you're too simplistic for your own good.
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>>86823850
wake up burgers
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>>86819263
That's not Shatner, it's his kids and you're retarded to believe otherwise. The guy is in his 80s, no way he know how to work a computer, let alone 4chan or twitter.
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>>86823824
It's quite different. Do you not know what a statue is? They are synonymous with honor and idolization. You don't put up a statue of someone you fucking hate and want dead.

A plaque on the other hand is simply information. It's not honoring or degrading anyone.
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>>86823903
My 92 year old grandpa uses facebook to upload videos he takes of family gatherings and reunions. It's not hard at all m8.
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>>86822283
holy shit is this really Europe? looks like a Brazilian favela.

let's be honest here though. more than even liberalism itself, the problem is niggers. niggers turn any place they inhabit into a Haiti tier shithole. even if niggers started living in a section 8 colony on Mars, the machines will stop working within a week.
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>>86823871
Because of what they represent.

They are symbolic. They represent a darker chapter in our history. A chapter where we dehumanized people, and treated them like shit for no reason other than a horribly wrong sense of inherent superiority.

Displaying those in public, even as somber tokens of remembrance, champions what that period meant to us, which is unacceptable nowadays. We can't condone a symbolic representation of our history that championed slavery.

And I know posters here like to just sideshow the idea of racism and laugh at black people and stuff. But in the REAL world, condoning those symbols is irresponsible of us as a society. Particularly a 1st world society.
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>>86823888
No. I'm just not racist.
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>>86823858
They have a memorial in Berlin for the Soviet soldiers who fell in the Battle of Berlin.

A public neo-nazi faggot tried to make a Waffen-SS memorial in the seventies, had to relocate it to private property and it was demolished eventually.

There is no memorial or monument for the Wehrmacht.

Educate yourself faggot.
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>>86823903
worlds oldest blogger is a 103 year old woman, blogging about her life all on her own
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>>86823978
holy shit anon get it together you autist they just represent the people that died in the war
christ the americans are retarded
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I guess we should erase native americans from history since they rebelled against the government.
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>>86824015
No they fucking don't just represent that. Stop fucking convincing yourself that they do.

A monument of Robert fucking Lee does not just "honor people that died in the war". It honors the very idea of the confederacy, and what Robert Lee fought for. Which was a losing side that supported a heinous ideology.
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>>86823850
niggers are so primitive they never have any monuments or statues for their forefathers. but to their credit, a million tomb of the unknowns would get kind of repetitive.
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>>86823953
>They are synonymous with honor and idolization.
No, you're bringing your own stupid definition into it. It's a figure of a person or an animal. Whether it's revering these people or simply serving to represent them comes into context, and many of these confederate monuments to soldiers are simply that, merely a remembrance.
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>>86823858
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Monuments_and_memorials_in_Germany
Which one?
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>>86824068
i honestly thought the americans are dumb were just a meme but lately i think its true
hell have fun destroying monuments to the dead while the rest of the world laughs
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>>86824063
A childish equivalence in all respects.

Native Americans were fighting for territory and their rights as people.

The South was fighting for secession because they didn't believe the principle of banning slavery was honorable.

Pathetic of you to make that equivalence.
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>>86823850
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450734/christopher-columbus-statues-new-york-monument-iconoclasts-attack
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>>86823850
What the fuck I hate BLM now switching sides to the cool folks that murdered a protestor last week!
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>>86823953
Why would I hate and want my American brothers dead? You sound like a Muslim.
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>>86823992
>There is no memorial or monument for the Wehrmacht.
Try reading this part again. You seem confused.
>They have many dedicated to those that died in the war.
Now that your bias and autistic rage is diffused, you'll see that there are monuments to German ww2 service members.
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>>86824126
You have legitimate mental issues. Seek help. Insulting my character in no way delegitimize my argument. They are symbols, heralded in our public, representing something we should NOT be proud of.
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>>86824175
Sweetie you can't murder a commie.
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>>86824175
You do realize that BLM activists have murdered multiple cops, right?
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>>86824015
You clearly don't understand what a statue is. And what it means and has meant throughout history.
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>>86824231
are you a legitimate autist
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>>86824175
>you're either a literal Nazi or a cop-killing vandal
Islam should just take over at this point. Our civilization ran its course.
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>>86823850
Cristoforo Colombo was a murderous degenerate piece of shit and you Burgers are retarded for turning him into a mascot like he's fucking Mickey Mouse. The American public learning about the real Colombo behind the propaganda is long overdue.
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>>86824068
>No they fucking don't just represent that.
Why are you sperging out so much? Robert E. Lee is just one monument of many, and the man did much for reconstruction in the aftermath of the war, besides being a great general in his own right. There are many more monuments to just confederate soldiers, mostly in small towns. They have as much right to exist in the public square as monuments to union soldiers. Most of these union and confederate monuments actually look nearly identical as one company made a great deal of them.
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>>86824283
What the actual hell is wrong with you? I provided an actual argument, with a legitimate reasoning, and you've done nothing but say "omfg your so dumb lmao autism".

Are you that detached from reality? Go back to /pol/ where you can shitpost about black people without having to think. It's clearly hurting your head having to comprehend an actual argument.
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>>86824248
yes anon statues are meant to keep the black man down
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>>86824307
>Our civilization ran its course.
At least we can agree about that.
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>>86824340
You've been presented with many arguments but all you do is sperg out. Take a break from the internet my son, you've lost your composure.
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>>86824340
youre ''legitmate'' reasoning is that you think it represents something, i said literally every country in the world has statues for whatever uprising they had
its just the american snowflake left wants to destroy history
im not even white you autist, but go fight the good fight smash those evil statues, im just stating that americans are a joke
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>>86824239
And BLM leadership condemned those.

Meanwhile, at the tolerant Right...
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>>86824328
Frankly, all Civil War monuments in my mind should just be put in museums and removed from public facilities, regardless of side. It's not particularly a portion of our history that we should be constantly reminding ourselves of. Memorializing them in museums helps preserve them while also maintaining that they are historical point in our identity, not what maintains our identity.

And I have an opinion and am voicing it. In no way is that "sperging".
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>>86824315
Nice revisionism there bro. Columbus acted like every other conqueror of his time. We don't apply modern moral standards to Genghis Khan or King David, do we?

The reason we venerate Columbus is because he was vital in connecting the western to the eastern hemisphere of the Earth. He was "great man" in the traditional sense of the term. He also died before the Spanish really went to town on the natives.
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>>86824445
>the war where the most americans died is not something americans should remember
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>>86824142
>Native Americans were fighting for territory and their rights as people.
>implying the south wasn't doing the same
Unless you're just being sarcastic, but with the commies sperging out in here it's hard to tell.
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>>86824340
>arguing with Kekistanis
What were you thinking?
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>>86824442
Kessler is a piece of shit who doesn't represent anyone. Richard Spencer (and various other alt-right leaders) condemned the attacks.
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>>86824411
Counterarguing is not "sperging out" friend. I know it's striking to you that people have differing opinions on this website, but you'll get use to it.

>>86824427
You're making some ridiculous equivalences about what "every other country" does. We aren't every other country. If we want to maintain ourselves as world leader and 1st world country, we should be able to progress and make ourselves better where we see fit. This issue is not a bad place to improve on.

And you insulting Americans just because tells me you don't want to hear my argument regardless.
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>>86824463
>We don't apply modern moral standards to Genghis Khan or King David, do we?
Yes we fucking do. What is Genghis Khan most famous for if not raping so much that his jizz data is still traceable in the modern day earth population?
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>>86824445
>We should hide our history because reasons
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>>86824560
ill stop replying to you know because i actually think youre just trolling
if youre not seek help
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>>86824560
>This issue is not a bad place to improve on.
According to you snowflake.
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>>86824513
You don't get to decide which neonazi leader represents them and who doesn't. By that logic BLM isn't responsible for any cop murders.
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>>86824482
I never, at all said or even implied that. Don't put words in my mouth. I said it should not be what we maintain as our identity, with constant reminders of how divisive our country remains to be.

The South, The North, The West. All of it is America. Monuments that tow the line for any region should be memorialized in museums, not the public.

>>86824491
The South was fighting AGAINST rights for an entire race of people. Not even remotely the same.
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>>86824315
Viking discovered America way before Christopher Columbus. The only reason we don't celebrate the pure white Norse discover is because Jews want to pretend Italians are white.
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>>86824445
There's no need to remove them. Go destroy some other country's history please.
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>>86824589
Genghis Khan isn't perceived as being a modern-day Hitler. He's actually venerated in parts of Asia. They build monuments to him.
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>>86824653
>The South was fighting AGAINST rights for an entire race of people.
As did the Union for much of the country's history. Tear it all down then.
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>>86824592
It's not hiding our history, jesus. It's memorializing them as a frame or point in our history. It's letting everyone know we've moved on from it now. Or at least are trying to.

Monuments that are based in championing a bad part of our history is not something we should constantly be walking around, thinking about how divided the country is. That just feeds into the mentality we have now.

>>86824623
>>86824599
I don't understand you /pol/ posters sometimes. You complain about leftists never being able to argue, but then I actually engage you in argument and you just berate me with insults and shy away from it. What the hell do you want?

Uniform opinion with what YOU believe? How does that make you any better than the Antifa left extremists?
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>>86824646
>You don't get to decide which neonazi leader represents them and who doesn't.
By that logic BLM IS represented by its cop killers
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>>86824660
Exactly. Colombo did nothing to earn his saint status, but for some reason Americans get extremely buttflustered when you dare criticize him.
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>>86824721
Didn't he rape like 300 women?
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>>86819602

>>86822964 kind of beat me too it, but what legacy really? Star Trek and the X-Men series? Voicing the lead CIA guy in American Dad? I guess he did a lot of theatre plays, but big whoop no one cares about those. Guy is good of Prof X, and I guess he was good as Picard but I'll never consider him a rememberable actor.
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>>86824513
Get the fuck out with Spencer. You want to tell me that someone like social liberal leftist Akkad not only gets banned, but outright IP banned from Twitter, yet Spencer is still there and you wanna claim that he isn't a fucking plant?
Dude a ten years from now Spencer will be back shilling for someone like Sanders.
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>>86824743
So let me get this straight. The South was "fighting for their rights" but the Union was the one destroying everyone's rights by telling the South that no, you can't keep beating and enslaving black people?

Are you a racist? I'm not being snarky here, I'm actually asking. Because why the hell else would you be willing to defend the South from the Civil War when their fighting for their "rights" was to infringe upon the rights of an entire race?
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>>86824767
Which is what folks in this thread are arguing.
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>>86824764
>I don't understand you /pol/ posters sometimes.
Not from /pol/. I'm actually pretty moderate liberal but keep painting anyone that disagrees with you as some boogeyman, much like /pol/ constantly does.
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Forgetting the past is not moving on. Not that I expect a commie to understand that.
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>>86824830
>but the Union was the one destroying everyone's rights by telling the South that no,
The United States as a whole exists beyond the Civil war. Educate yourself anon.
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>>86824653
the south was fighting because they felt their voices weren't heard
only 24% of the southern population owned slaves
do you really think they fought because some rich family was afraid of losing their workers? majority of the south hated the rich and it's also why the rednecks were formed in the first place
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>>86824829
All alt right figures are kike-ish opportunists exploiting the current wave of gullible right-wing teenagers.
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>>86824843
No, no moderate actively defends the Confederacy, or the South's viewpoint in the civil war.

You aren't moderate at all, stop lying.

>>86824855
You aren't fucking forgetting the past, jesus christ.

There are things called BOOKS. Like HISTORY books. That you can READ. That have FACTS in them. About HISTORY.

You don't need a fucking statue to remember history or be learned on history.
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>>86824801
try thousands
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>>86824855
no one should forget the past, what every one needs is to forgive the past or else we won't be able to move onto greener pastures
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>>86824764
>we've moved on
>bad part of our history
>we've moved on
Doesn't seems so
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>>86824913
>No, no moderate actively defends the Confederacy,
That's great because I never defended the confederacy, just said the confederate soldiers should still be honored with some monuments if that's what people want. Take your strawman arguments elsewhere dumbass.
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>>86824834
No, we're saying that if you're going to represent the alt-right by its most extreme elements (the guy who ran over that girl), then you can't just ignore the cop killers among BLM. And by the way, Assata Shakur is praised by many mainstream BLM activists.
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>>86824902
>the south was fighting because they felt their voices weren't heard
That may be a true point, but in what capacity does that make it ok to fight on behalf of slavery? It simply doesn't.

>do you really think they fought because some rich family was afraid of losing their workers? majority of the south hated the rich and it's also why the rednecks were formed in the first place
I think a region that was very deeply ingrained in racism and the negligence of the poor conditions black people were kept in had no qualms fighting a war to defend slavery, no.
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>>86824913
>being this illiterate
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>>86825011
the poor people of the south hated the rich with a passion, they'd have had no problem abandoning slavery if it hurt the rich
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>>86824951
That's kind of the point. We need to move on. With the statues as constant reminders, it certainly doesn't help. And people like you willing to defend them at every turn seems unwilling to help that motive.

>>86824958
>That's great because I never defended the confederacy, just said the confederate soldiers should still be honored with some monuments if that's what people want. Take
You can do that in museums, not in the public. That doesn't detract from my point nor demean yours.

>Take your strawman arguments elsewhere dumbass.
I've been berated by nothing but strawmans and people putting words in my mouth. And sorry if you're caught in the crossfires of an argument on anonymous website.
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>>86824998
>we're saying that if you're going to represent the alt-right by its most extreme elements (the guy who ran over that girl), then you can't just ignore the cop killers among BLM.
Yes. /pol/ judges BLM by its cop killers and whine when the alt right gets associated with Field Jr.
>Assata Shakur is praised by many mainstream BLM activists.
Roof is praised by many mainstream stormies, what's your point?
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>>86824913
Citizens don't read history and they don't go to museums. Out of sight out of mind. All you commies fight for is the erasure of time. Niggers aren't going to forgive whitey because you destroy your past.
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>>86825095
>the poor people of the south hated the rich with a passion, they'd have had no problem abandoning slavery if it hurt the rich
Well clearly, they didn't.

>>86825019
Illiterate about what? Mixing up anons I'm arguing with?
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>wahhhh, every confederate soldier is a vile evil devil that kills black babbies!
>anyone that disagrees with me is /pol/, teehee!
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>>86825098
>I've been berated by nothing but strawmans and people putting words in my mouth.
Because you use nothing but strawmen yourself you dumb cunt.
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>>86825144
>Well clearly, they didn't.
yes they did, it's why the rednecks were formed because people were fucking tired of how the rich corrupted everything
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>>86825139
>Citizens don't read history and they don't go to museums.
Any person with high school education will have education of the Civil War. Ridiculous statement. And your generalization of citizens and history is an uncalled for ad hominem unto them.

>Out of sight out of mind.
R-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s. People don't just fucking "forget" that black people were enslaved and a country fought a war over it.

>All you commies fight for is the erasure of time. Niggers aren't going to forgive whitey because you destroy your past.
You aren't even worth arguing with if you're just going to go full racist paranoid idiot.
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>>86825157
>wahhhh stop calling us nazis
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>>86825215
No, I fucking don't. I've been countering people directly in these threads, specifically arguing the points they made by quoting them.

Don't just make shit up.
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>>86819551
Women are the weaker sex, and it is the duty and privilege of men (in general,but specifically father's) to defend them. Not white knighting, I am married with children and very secure and confident, etc.

Both Kirk and Picard in OPs pic are right, imo. However, Picard probably is also referring to defending the right to have abortions, which is ironically exactly the opposite of defending them (i.e. murdering the innocent and helpless)
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>>86825254
>wahhh, stop accusing me of using strawman arguments when that's all I do!
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>>86825224
>yes they did, it's why the rednecks were formed because people were fucking tired of how the rich corrupted everything
And yet they were still willing to fight a civil war that was primarily predicated on slavery, because society in the south rejected the notion that black people should be treated as equals.
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>>86825125
The difference is that tenured college professors defend Assata Shakur and BLM receives support from mainstream publications and attention from the Democratic party apparatus. If you don't see a distinction between how BLM and the alt-right are perceived, then you aren't paying very good attention.
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>>86825279
>specifically arguing the points they made by quoting them.
You directly twist their shit around into something that doesn't represent any point they brought up . Cry more retard.
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