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It really is gonna be a shitty empire strikes reboot like how TFA was a shitty new hope reboot, isn't it?

Source: https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/08/the-sws-first-official-look-at-the-new-at-m6-walker-and-first-order-dreadnought-from-the-last-jedi.html
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Looks fine to me. America had like a dozen different tanks for different purposes in WWII, wouldn't AT-ATs and Star Destroyers be the same?
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>>86812395
What a surprise, amazing really
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>>86812395
They dropped the ball. Game over at Lucasfilm. Pretty sure the designer added the penis on the star destroyer just to see if Rian Johnson would react. Just like they put assholes in Maz eyes, but neither Rian or JJ Abrams protested because they're nu-males.
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I'm surprised that the're sticking to worse versions of stuff from the OT. You'd think they make one original design to show off and pretend that the movies aren't a retread.
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>>86812395
MY predictions is that the thing is able to stand on his hind legs and the things in front are actually hands that can grab things. Like flying speeders out of the air and throw them back.
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What's with the Cylon and at-at bastard child?
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i am actually shocked to see how lost Disney is with Star Wars. They really have no idea what to do with it
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>>86812545
>original

no thank you, sounds like a risk
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>>86812395
I honestly didn't believe this is real until I checked it myself. LF really did sink that low
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>>86812595

What complete nonsense. They know exactly what they're doing. They made back what they paid for the brand in merchandising alone before the first Disney SW even came out. You just don't like it and can't be content that people like what you don't so you make up flimsy reasons about how what you don't like is "wrong" so you're "right" and not just of a differing opinion.
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>>86812571
In the trailer you can see these new walkers in the middle of a salt desert. It's completely retarded to drop these thins so far away from the base they're attacking
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>>86812659
The prequels also made their money back but are objectively bad movies
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>>86812659
t. baby boomer
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maybe it's because I never really liked walkers, but the star destroyer bothers me much much more.

why is the bridge tower almost as wide as the entire ship? why does it have a giant pit in the middle? (at least it's not a hole, *cough*startrekdiscovery*cough*). why does it have giant cannons hanging from the bottom?
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>>86812659
no destroying 40 years of lore just to replace it with shit that has already been forgotten is completely retarded
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Can't wait for everyone to praise it as soon as it comes out because "WOOOOOWWW!!! STARR WARRRRSSS!"
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>>86812755
It's so bad it looks like a poor photoshop made under 5 minutes
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>>86812674
Me an JJ Abrams came up with a solution. Those things can gallop now and if that isn't fast enough their are special roller skates build into their soles propelled by rocket engines.
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so the ship on the bottom must be a dude because i can see his benis hanging out
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>>86812465

Also, Last ORder is supposed to have a serious fetish for anything empire related.
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>>86812763
>40 years of lore

What lore has been destroyed?
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>>86812755
Where's that copypasta making fun of ridiculously huge star destroyers
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so it's only half the size of a super star destroyer but still that's fucking absurd
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>>86812755
Click the link in the OP and it explains it's a ground-firing ship (hence the gun on the bottom)
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>>86812903

Take Rouge One as an example and how that ended. New Hope starts by implying that the empire is mercilessly hunting down Leahs ship who is undercover as an diplomatic vessel.

RO shows is that actually she's riding in the getaway car for one of the biggest heists in galactic history. When she tells Darth Vadershe's on a diplomatic mission, that is like getting pulled with body parts literally covering the entire car and going "well you see officer, I'm on a diplomatic mission to Mexico at the moment!"
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>>86812903
>baby boomer never read The Old Republic
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>>86813064

yeah but that's no reason to have guns the size of regular star destroyers that pop out. besides to have a weak point for the good guys to shoot at, of course.
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>>86813119
>When she tells Darth Vadershe's on a diplomatic mission, that is like getting pulled with body parts literally covering the entire car and going "well you see officer, I'm on a diplomatic mission to Mexico at the moment!"

And Vader responds to her exactly the way that cop would in ANH.
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>>86812930
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>>86813119
I completely agree that the ending of R1 makes ANH beginning completely fucking retarded, which honestly is a bigger sin than any prequel shit because the opening of the original Star Wars is one of the most important scenes in cinematic history
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>>86813246

Except Vader isn't a cop who just pulled you over, he's an unstoppable murder machine at the end of RO. And that guy just goes "You're under arrest. Cuff her Charlie!"
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How does the first order fund this? where does their income come from? The empire at least made sense because it was an empire with a wealth of income from it's subjects
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>>86813395
In two movies Disney managed to do more damage to the OT than Lucas ever did.
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>>86812659
My lady.
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>>86812755
Where are the stars, I'm calling fake
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>>86813064
>ground-firing ship (hence the gun on the bottom)
Do they not know in space you can change your orientation at will? Star wars with a little more space physics like BSG would have been great.
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>>86813819
but if the ship starts facing a different direction everyone on it will fall over
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>>86813119
>RO shows is that actually she's riding in the getaway car for one of the biggest heists in galactic history.

>>86813395
>I completely agree that the ending of R1 makes ANH beginning completely fucking retarded, which honestly is a bigger sin than any prequel shit because the opening of the original Star Wars is one of the most important scenes in cinematic history

You should listen to the first two episodes of the A New Hope radio drama. The radio adaptation shows Leia going on diplomatic mercy missions to aid the Rebellion and using her credentials to get past Vader and other Imperials. It shows how they learned about the Death Star project and the end of the heist (the Tantive IV intercepting the stolen plans), and the start of the chase. It dovetails perfectly into the first scenes of Episode IV.

Unlike the prologue of RO, after the events of the Radio Drama, it makes perfect sense for Leia to try a bluff.
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>>86813526

The Senate still exists at the start of ANH and Leia is still a very public and known Rebel activist. He's justified in "defending the Empire" against "terrorists" at the battle but he would not be justified in doing anything to Leia other than cuffing her. And the Imperial officer with Vader is nervous even about doing that.

Now whose shitting on the lore?
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>>86812395
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>>86813819
Star Wars loves their 2d battles where everything is a world war 2 battle, I guess you would't want to confuse the brainless fans too much
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>>86812755
kek how long is that bridge? 300 miles?
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>>86812465
>first order
>doesnt have as much territory as the empire
>somehow still having resources to build more powerful at-ats and star destroyers
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>>86814107
KEK
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>>86814107
HAHAHAHa
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>>86812755
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>>86812395
>reboot

in this case it is called remake, not reboot
a reboot doesnt need to use elements from the original, it can be completely different just about the same topics
I hope you understand that now OP and dont fuck up again when making another thread
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>>86814107
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>>86812674


people need to accept the fact that star wars movie have always been blockbuster entertainments and that disney milking if for everything it is worth is exactly what happened to the originals in the 1980s.

They dont even hold up that well outside of nostalgia.
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>>86815749
This is a really bad meme though. A new hope is a mind blowing work that brings Kurosawa into the next century. Empire Strikes Back took the cinematic genius of the first and elevated the drama to mature and culturally enriched levels. It's only ROTJ that is some kiddy bullshit with a few memorable scenes
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>>86812395
I'm so sorry George. Nu-star wars cucks complain about jar jar endlessly but will eat the shit of force penguins and SLOTH AT AT. I'm so sorry, this was his baby and we arrogantly thought we had a better idea of what star wars is than George now they just rehash the originals endlessly because that's what manchildren fanbabies who put on star wars underoos and buy all the toys want.
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>>86812395
>The way the AT-AT's leg is makes it look like the people at Disney watched dogs walk for hours to come up with a new design that would seem more animal like
MY FUCKING SIDES
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>>86816228

brings kurosawa into the next century? how so?

"elevated the drama to mature and culturally enriched levels"? that is not actual criticism. What do you mean by culturally enriched?

it isnt a meme, Star Wars are good little sci-fi movies, but to pretend like these new movies are violating some sacred canon or lore is silly. they are blockbusters that will all do really well, the kids growing up watching these will only remember these ones, and in 20 years nobody will even care.
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>>86812395
Snoke's Pizza Delivery Service: You'll love your First Order, or it's free!
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>>86813261
kek
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>>86814708

It's not a reboot, it's a rehash.
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>>86816361
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>>86816392
Because the storytelling style is a blatant yet good rip-off of Kurosawa, and the visual design of the film was genuinely visionary. Everything from the art direction, set design, and special effects created a world beyond what people could imagine. The action in Star Wars is edited so well it should blow your fucking mind; especially the death star battle. There was nothing for that to draw inspiration from. They had to make a three dimensional star fighter space battle make sense and be engaging both viscerally and emotionally and it worked. There was nothing clunky or broken about it; they invented new technological methods of cinematic presentation.

By culturally enriched I mean that the mythos of Star Wars began to take on its own identity, also rooted in the mythos of the Western canon. When you listen to George Lucas talk about Yoda or the force back then you will know what I'm talking about. The maturity factor comes in the way that the first film has pretty much nothing but quirky one liners and corny stuff once the action gets going. Just compare even the opening scenes of ESB with Han, Leia, and Luke to any scene with the three of them in ANH. There is much more of a sense of realism and definition to their characters. It's magnificent.
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>>86812571
>MY predictions is that the thing is able to stand on his hind legs and the things in front are actually hands that can grab things. Like flying speeders out of the air and throw them back.
The majority of normies would cheer wildly and clap this.
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>>86816729
>There was nothing for that to draw inspiration from
Wrong Lucas based the tie fighter segments on WW2 plane battles otherwise yeah everything sci fi related had to be thought up as well as all the spaceship designs etc
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>>86814107
This pleases me.
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>>86812395
This pretty much confirms force sloth, right?
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>>86816853
Well yeah true, I've seen 12 o'clock high. But I meant making it a space battle instead of just normal air to air combat. And editing it from scratch with miniatures. Nobody has ever even thought of doing that before
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>>86812755
>why does it have a giant pit in the middle?
it's a gravity well like on an interdictor ship.
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>>86812395
>Geeeze Rey d-d-dis ice world is r-really cold
>Sorry Finn but at least Hoth isn't as cold a H'toh
>Man that weird horse thing we slept in last night stunk
>Finn, that was your gas! haha I am so Tsundere now
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2 things are gonna happen: the numale will take his wife's daughter to see this and keep telling her during the movie how this is oh so much moreproggresive than those old mostly white original str wars movies he will never even show her

Also if this movie does worse than expected, expect ghostbusters 2016 with movie creators and their lapdog media screaming how it did bad because the fans are all evil racist sexist transphobic nazi trump voters
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>>86814427
And death stars
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>>86812755
HAHA ID HAZ A BENIS XDDDD
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>>86812694
>objectively
There goes that word again
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>>86814427
Hate to defend these peace of shit designs, but Germans wasted a ton of fucking resources late war, when they only had a fraction of a functional infrastructure, on fancy, impressive looking, but convoluted and ineffective projects. If you can't win, at least make it look like you can. That and German autism.
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>>86813616
Just turn your brain off LMAO
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>>86816353
>Nu-star wars cucks complain about jar jar endlessly but will eat the shit of force penguins and SLOTH AT AT.
This is what I hate most about Nu-StarWars fans. Shit on the prequels because LE Reddit Letter Memedia but overlook all the absurd shitty writing in JJ's fanfiction reboot. Fucking hypocrites.
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>>86814107
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This is what happens when you let sjw's design stuff. They should just let fractalsponge design all vehicles. He did this for the EU, and he is actually talented and knows what makes a vehicle "star wars".
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>>86814107
kek

at first i thought it looked pretty cool, but now i can't unsee
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>>86816361
it's clearly supposed to look like a gorilla, not a dog your mongoloid
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Will they pull another Starkiller Base for Episode IX?
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I miss pre-2012 Star Wars.
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>>86818122

yeah but the planet will only be half-built
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Fuck I thought someone just flipped the original upside down. But really it doesn't look that bad. A bit too thin for me. They don't look menacing like they used to. But it's not terrible. But why are you only asking now if it's gonna be an empire strikes back reboot? They literally stole the fight scene in the trailer from empire
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>>86812902
How handy!
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>>86818101
Sloth, actually.
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>>86817812
I can't stand this shit either. "OMG I want to buy all of the Porgs!" is what I see on every Star Wars forum now.
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>>86812395
Jesus fuck the nu-@@ is even uglier than I imagined.
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>>86814107
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>>86818132
>I miss pre-2012 Star Wars.
Just wait for post-2020 Star Wars, when the distribution rights to Episodes V, VI, and I-III transfer to Disney.
If you can believe it, the Mouse Jew is actually *Holding Back* on the marketing front until this occurs.
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>>86814427
Yeah it's almost like it's not a serious science fiction series and is actually a space fantasy where a mystical order of space wizards face off against the dark space emperor and his space black knight
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>>86812395
Does this spaceship have a dick?
Who greenlight this shit?
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>>86819470
>when the distribution rights to Episodes V, VI, and I-III transfer to Disney.
Please, someone nuke that camelfaced bitch and/or Disney's HQ before that happens.
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>>86812755
pizza
with a penis
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This just makes me wish all the more for a good 40K adaptation.

Too bad it's source material is too triggering for modern hollywood.
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>>86814107
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>>86819623
same people who greenlit Maz-Butthole-Kanata. I think that's the concept artists way of saying fuck you Disney. If nobody in the leadership realized this was inappropriate, that only shows the level of hackery. same with the first shot of the destroyer in TFA, it looked like someone flipping the finger. George must have been horrified when he saw that shit
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TFA was so fucking bad, insultingly bad
I didn't expect them to pull another shit like that again, yet they did

Star Wars was sold to the true Dark Side, like lucas pottery
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>Ray: You knew my father!
>Luke: No... I am your father.
>*TESB suite*
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>>86819852
Even the videogames are toned down now
Playing DoW DC you can see how it's really filled with fantasy hatred and zealous but real philosophy about different views. Characters, dialogues, art, the "Grim THought of the Day" at the menu, etc. The next ones however, are really really toned down and it's more generic fantasy in space.
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>>86819538
Expanded Universe and videogames and ANYTHING not related to the mainline Star Wars had really interesting plots and world building.
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>>86820748
Have you seen Battlefront 2? The story mode lead is a black women who is a pilot for the empire...Because evryone knows girls are the main demographic of this kind of videogames
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you guys are all gonna love the last Jedi, you're setting your expectations so low that even if this movie turns out to be a piece of shit about to be reheated in a microwave, you'll still praise Rian and Lucasfilm for not producing the movie equivalent to syphilis.
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>>86821184
>I love Star wars and I have absolutely no interest in this movie, I'm not even curious, you can tell it's dead in the water with Kathleen Kennedy. Even the spin-offs are a clusterfuck. They're standalone movies they can write one good story but no, it's all about fan servicing and dumb action sequences
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>>86812755
>why does it have a giant pit in the middle?
So the Finalizer can dock in it.
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>>86821313
I bet my bottom dollar that in a better view it will appear to look like an asshole
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>>86821441
Why the hell would the ship look like you?
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apologize
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My only complaint with all fantasy in space is that it makes normalfags unironically think this is how it works in reality which actually reflects back on society and national policies.
The amount of times I've heard during conversations on the topic that rockets are dated and we need something new like antigravity engines before humanity even considers going to space makes me want to kill myself.
Fuck biplane dog figting too. Should have never been invented.
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>>86821794
I don't have to, I never bought into the rabbid hatred for him after the prequels, they are as much his fault as they are fault of every yes-man around him who didn't speak up or do anything, he tried his best. The score, vehicle and sound design in those movies is still top-notch, writing failures aside.
And to be fair, star wars is his baby, he has the right to do whatever he wishes with it.
Well, not anymore, he sold his baby after a decade of rabbid hatred aimed at him for daring to make movies not as good as the fanbase wanted them to be.
Oh and there was that bit with the special editions and refusing to re-release the originals as-is, never got why he was so anal about that. But eh, its not like it ruined the originals beyond being watchable.
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>>86812395
>>86812755
>>86814107
>mecha-gorilla.jpg
I've expected nothing and yet still am disappointed
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>>86822317
Considering how Lucasfilm is doing right now without him, I think we can be glad they were just yes-men. After all Star Wars was e,tirely his ideas depsite scumbags like Kasdan trying to take credit for ESB.
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>>86821794
don't need to, I never stopped loving him
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>>86821060
What sucks is we HAD really well done female characters in the EU, they were competent and just did their thing and we're cool. Now it's turbo SJW femanism shit.
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>>86812930
It's only 7.6 km long. A manlet for the SSD group but ridicously oversized for a ship-of-the-line Star Destroyer
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There is no way in hell they have the budget to fund this level of R&D. It would have made sense for a remnant of the empire to simply use surplus empire equipment and the star wars universe isn't known for technological advancement so having these stupid looking redesigns is fucking silly and makes no logic sense to even exist. Fucking gundam uc logic minus the logic.
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>>86812755
In good sci-fi design, everything has a purpose and is put there deliberately.
In bad sci-fi design, shit is just thrown into the mix to make it look more complicated and futuristic.
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>>86823138
It's bizarre. Politically speaking, the First Order are the underdogs, with the 'Resistance' being subsidised by and a part of a combined galactic hyperpower. But economically speaking, the movie portrays them the other way around because Disney wants the OT audience. The First Order's assets are endless and pristine, while the Resistance is using kit-bashed greasy old ships like the Rebellion did (and had to). They screwed these movies up so much. Lazy, cynical, soulless and utterly disposable. What a waste.
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>>86812755
>Legit crit
>Legit crit
>Bombardments
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>>86812395
they look like fucking toys. which I guess is the ultimate point but they really did a piss poor job.
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>>86813819
>Do they not know in space you can change your orientation at will?
Yeah, but you don't have to.
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>>86812395
why does that star ship have a penis?
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>>86822260
>Fuck biplane dog figting too. Should have never been invented.
I beg your pardon?
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Is it me or the dreadnought has a penis?
The AT AT looks like shit btw.
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>>86814312
>where everything is a world war 2 battle
Yes, do go on with your vast knowledge of 20th century naval warfare.
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>>86812395
they added a penis to the dreadnought to further drive in that heterosexual white men are evil
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Does the new AT AT do gorilla stuff like standing on its back legs and punching its chest?
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i just want a proper 3 dimensional space battle
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>>86821794
You still made shit prequels and a pizza shaped ship doesn't change that
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>>86822317
>they are fault of every yes-man around him who didn't speak up or do anything
Why do you faggots believe everything that RLM tells you? This isn't even remotely true.
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>>86824779
Then what really happened?
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>>86820269
have you literally never seen an old person?
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>>86812659
Cringe. Even the most normiecore of my friends think Disney's take on Star Wars is fucking terrible. I have yet to meet a person that 100% defended everything in TFA and Rogue One unironically.
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>>86824836
Certainly not taking a snippet from a clip and taking it completely out of context for one.
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>>86812395
>hey we need a new Super Star Destroyer design
>how about a normal star destroyer but flatter
>perfect
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>>86812395
>Thinking it won't empire 2
>Rey/Luke training scene/maybe Kylo and Snoke
>Hoth battle on whatever planet Leia is on
>Poe frozen in Carbonite
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>>86812395
Looks completely original.
Damn, maybe originality isn't dead after all, huh?
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>>86820673
>I am a father, like the Jedi before me
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>>86812395
Why the fuck did they make the walker into a gorilla? What advantage does that give over the AT-AT? You can still take it down with the tow cables. Just fucking make an actual mech with arms.
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>>86823818
In the EU, the Imperial Remnant was forced to use old Rebel frigates and starfighters commonly used by pirates and civilians because they were running out of money to mass produce even TIEs.
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>>86812395
theres going to be an epic battle on the platform of that ship, calling it now. either people are going to be fighting on it physically in space, or they're going to have their epic space battle or some shit
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what the hell, how can people still like this shit?
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does anyone else simply feel complete apathy for star wars at this point? i haven't even watched rogue one or the 7th star wars, i saw the trailers and thought it didn't look very good and just never got around to it - don't think i'll ever watch another star wars movie again
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Why are they being so shameless about all this? Do the freaks Star Wars American fans are so sure an audience to buy a ticket (or four) that the jews don't even give a fuck?
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uhhh guize?
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>>86825744
Watched TFA and hated it but never touched Rogue One.
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>>86824479
They got Andy Serkis to do gorilla moves. The Walker also stops sometimes and roars like a dinosaur while doing unlikely movements.
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>>86812395
I see they went with the thin crust
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>>86825744

Saw the 7th and I just felt done with it all. Didn't see Rogue One. I was a huge Star Wars fan growing up, playing jedi with sticks we found in the woods, I had the visual dictionaries and comics. Feels pretty bad.
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>>86824836
What happenned is that Hollywood blamed Lucas for all his failed movies and took credits away from him for all the good movies. His last movies Red Tails and Starnge Magic were directed and written by other people, why is he taking all the blame?
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>>86812395
>tfw I stopped watching SW shit and feel so much better for it

I recommend it for everyone.
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>>86826056
I wanna suck Snokey's pokey!
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>>86812755
Looks like a pizza slice. I've seen better fan made designs.
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>finally we get a male star destroyer
Suck it, SJWs!
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>>86814107
well done
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>>86817161
Please keep going
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>>86812395
I dunno what's worse SW or the fucking fanboys who will buy anything with SW slapped on it
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haha OMG I can't wait for more JEDI and Stormtroopers and the empire! A whole universe of possiblity but let's keep rehashing the same things! HAHA DUDE STAR WARS LMAO
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>>86813261
Thank you.
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>>86824521
Watch wrath of khan
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>>86823818
>It's bizarre. Politically speaking, the First Order are the underdogs, with the 'Resistance' being subsidised by and a part of a combined galactic hyperpower.
Resistance = Antifa
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>>86826879
i want more
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>>86826387
Every ship is a she. It's a tranny star destroyer. SJWs win.
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>>86814107
Yes, nice.
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>>86826056
Fucking Goldmember lmao
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>>86824479
No, they hired John Boyega for that.
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Shit on the prequels as much as you want but at least it had cool, memorable vehicles and weapons

there's nothing even remotely memorable about this new trilogy
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>>86817690
Horrible analogy considering germany rarely got those concepts off the assembly line or even started.
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>>86812755
Looks like it has a dick.
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>>86813208
>>86812755
I guess someone at Disney's Lucasfilms have watched Stargate Universe. The ship looks like the Destiny, it even has two main cannon under it.
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Is this another episode of, "/tv/ bitches endlessly about a movie that ends up reaching critical acclaim and blockbuster success"?

I've seen all of these already...
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>>86812395
Both look like dog turds
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>>86830107
>why is this board full of enthusiasts complaining about the trash of their medium being successful?
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>>86830429
>trash
>the movie I haven't seen yet

Cool.
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>>86830107
Kathleen, pls.
Don't you have the Indiana Jones franchise to ruin?
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>>86830107
>critical acclaim and blockbuster success

Literally worthless, anon.

It's like reading CNN for news. Literally not worth acknowledging as reputable.
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>>86830555
>CNN
>fake news

Oooohhhh. You're the same guy who got pissed that Finn was black and Jyn Erso was a woman, aren't you?

Whelp, saved me some time.
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>>86823818
Why is there even a resistance if the Republic is back in charge?

What is the resistance? Does the republic not have a fucking navy?
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>>86812395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYYMl_sS72Y
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>>86830767
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>>86813261
Holy shit. This is pretty great, more shit like this?
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>>86825038
You haven't met many people at all if that's the case.
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>>86830700
t. never checked a primary source in his life
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>>86830700
>ReRuns and youtubers get more views than CNN
next you'll tell every one that max landis is as great as john landis
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>>86825038
There were a ton of defenders at TFA and R1's release, and there will be for TLJ. But as time goes on and the honeymoon period fades, there are less willing to stake the claim that these movies hold up to the PT, let alone the OT.
>>86825604
They'll blind them with that red dust instead of tripping them up and that'll be the 'ah-ha!' moment which turns the battle around for the good guys
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>>86812395
>30 years and the top minds of the First Order could only think of fixing the walker-tripping problem by making them drag their feet
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>>86812755
I FIGURED IT OUT.

THE PIT IS A DEATH STAR

THE "CANNON" IS THE SAME TECH THEY USED TO SUCK UP STARS

THESE SHIPS WILL GO VERTICAL WITH BACKS TO A SUN IN A GIANT FORMATION TO "DESTROY" THE "STAR" AND FIRE THEIR BEAMS IN UNISON TO DESTROY THE RESISTANCE FLEET.

PAY ME
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>>86812987
>the bridge is longer than a fucking star destroyer
Yeah, the tiny bridge on the Executor did look a little silly, but this is worse
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>>86819538

>if it has magic they can do anything

no thats not how it works, any universe has rules, even star wars, you cant just chalk everything up to,

>"its magic"
>"muh space wizards"

it makes no sense that what is essentially a rebel force can afford such tech.

the rebels in the original series werent building planet killing ships, or flying dreadnought class fully build for purpose war ships.
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>>86830767
>>86823818
First Order is a government that is part of a treaty with the New Republic. The Senate pussied out on finishing the war and settled for peace. The Senate then funds the Resistance to fight the First Order since the FO is building up military force beyond what the treaty allows.

TFA actually explains this in Hux's speech in a couple lines. The actual treaty thing is left out because the prequels soured everyone on political exposition.
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>>86830700

You can replace CNN with any other if you like, anon. They're almost all shit and mean nothing.

I just say CNN because I know it triggers lefty tards like yourself.
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>>86830940
The republic beat the shit outta the remnant and took over the entire known universe, then made a peace treaty with the order. Turns out the order settled the entire uncolonized other half of the galaxy in the meantime.

The order is generally being a dick to everyone, but the republic is already too much of a wuss to start fighting back. Excluding the resistance, which are like random rebels acting in order space, so it´s just like the OT
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>>86831409
Yeah I just went and read about the Resistance/First Order shit and they left an absolute ton out of the movie, Leia being shamed out of politics due to her lineage is a pretty big deal and would have grounded the movie a lot, but like you say Disney was absolutely fucking terrified of going anywhere near politics.
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>>86831712

If you have to read books to get pertinent info that helps make sense of the film, the film has failed.
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>>86814107
beautiful
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>>86826056
gandpa get out of that housecoat people are over
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>>86826056
Based Yeezy wearer
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>>86831750
(Me)
I 100% agree, I remember finding TFA incredibly underwhelming from a plot perspective and no amount of wiki tablescraps collected from supplemental merchandise changes that
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>>86814107

Kek
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>>86826056

Wuj yu like a shmoke anna pancake?
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>>86830940
Bravo JJ
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>>86831556
Apart from the fact that after the prequels the Republic essentially *is* the Empire. The merchandise goes some way towards explaining the backstory but for anyone with a recollection of I-VI and half a brain The Force Awakens is a very flimsy piece of work in isolation.
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>>86812395
holy fuck both those designs are absurdly bad. they look like shit from a b-tier star wars videogame
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>>86814107
holy fuck
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>>86813208
Are we sure that these aren't thrusters?
Why are we assuming it flies through space pointy end first?
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I really think in term of context, rather than have FO have the largest and biggest vehicles, they ahould give them a mid size deaign to reflect they are no longer the old empire and has to be more nimble
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>>86812395
I refuse to believe this, I'm sorry, but there's literally just no way this is real.
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What I find amazing about this, is this is one thing that shouldn't be retreaded even for money.

Merchandising is huge with Star Wars. If anything they should create new toys FIRST then base the movie around the toys. Instead they are making the exact same shit. Why even buy the franchise?
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>>86833687
The heavy assault at at is real
Not sure about the pizza
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>>86830767
Resistance is anti-fa

Remember JJ is a jew. Everything is symbolic of real life groups.

First order are anti jew groups. There is Nazi symbolism with an Iran plotline thrown in. The evil Empire (nazis) have been defeated in the past but the republic (UN) refuses to do enough to stop them and they are building weapons of mass destruction.

Suddenly in Force Awakens it's too late, Iran got the nuke and now the whole galaxy isn't safe. The moral of the story is we need to stop threats to the jews before it is too late.
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>>86812571
My prediction is they'll try to do the like cable trick but it will stand up so they'll have to use more cables to bind it's arms and pull it back
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>>86825038
>>86826077
>>86826290

Rogue One was good. If you were expecting a cinematic masterpiece then no, but it was a good "spin off" and did everything it set out to do. It felt like a decent EU book was made into a movie.

Force Awakens was pure fanfiction tier awful.
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>>86834047
They blind them with sand
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>>86834156
>sand
It gets everywhere
So annoying
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>>86833881
Given how Hollywood has been autistically screeching since november, I bet that they'll add a line about making the empire "great again".

>>86834117
>Rogue One was good
Nice meme, friend. RO was awful. Dumb story, retcons, unlikable characters, boring soundtrack.
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>>86814107
Now this is the kind of OC I miss from the internet
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>>86834192
t. not actually the chosen one who would bring balance to the force
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>>86831409
> The actual treaty thing is left out
iThat was a very bad idea, because it would fit in Hux's speech quite easily, just make him say somethig like:
>The Republic promised us peace and independence, but instead those traitorous worms support the so called "Resistance"
And done. Is it THAT difficult to make the viewer understand wtf is going on in terms of politics without needing much time?
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it will break more then a billion at the box office and you idiots will say it failed happens all the time around this crap board
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>>86814684
That's dumber than the fucking rings the jedi star fighters needed to enter hyper space.
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>>86813819
I remember the space battle in RotS had some creative ship placements. Disney just doesn't have George's creativity.
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>>86835507
To be fair, Jedi star fighters are tiny even even in comparison the other same era fighter class.
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>>86822317
Zach, is that you?
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>>86830894
Underrated toast
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>>86835507
Those were kinda smart
Needed as hyperspace engines
Why wasn't there a toy of those
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>>86812755
> Wide bridge to make it harder for kamikaze pilots to fuck it's shit up.
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>>86821794
I'm sorry (((they))) blackmailed you.
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>>86836424
What did they have on him
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>>86812987
After the manlet sized Super Star Destroyer bridge got disabled by a single A Wing crashing into it, they had to build a bigger bridge.
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>>86825038
>Even the most normiecore of my friends think Disney's take on Star Wars is fucking terrible

Yea this is complete horseshit.
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>>86836860
>ep9 will have a rebel frigate crash into the bridge intead
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>>86821794
>allowing those stupid cg toons to be canon
>darth maul allowed to live
Fuck this guy too
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>>86827003
the expanse has its cool space moments
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Are we ever going to learn why they're called 'First Order'?
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>>86839295
Are you ever going to read Empire's End?
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