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Can a trilogy of this calibre ever be achieved again?

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Can a trilogy of this calibre ever be achieved again?
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Nah, LOTR is once in a lifetime

Shame that cancerous shit like Star Wars is more popular
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>just started rewatching LOTR for the first time in 2 years today
>multiple LOTR threads pop up today afterwards
This board is just a simulation in my head isn't it?
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>>86760033
Every person who loves these movies will sit back sometimes and think about what a masterpiece they were and how much love and care went into the trilogy from every single person on set. It's magical what Peter Jackson accomplished and I hope that the Mortal Engines movies are just as good
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>>86759945
Not anytime soon. That's what makes it special.

At some point someone is going to come along and do something amazing, then we'll wonder how we ever existed without it.(Assuming SJWs haven't made it impossible, to the degree that america has to be destroyed and remade before we can get something of the same quality)
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>>86759945
No. No one will ever build entire cities, giant megatures, craft thousands pieces of armor, clothes and decorations, prepare and plan for years before even starting shooting to achieve something like this. It is easier to shoot everything on the green screen right now
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One day I hope to see a Peter Jackson/Guillermo Del Toro partner on a movie like Halo or some shit
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Well, thematically it's a little too soon for that, Lord of the Rings was a swansong of the mythical side of monarchies with god-given rights, or the Old Regime, towards the beginning of a more "democratic" approach to storytelling (hobbits, humans, elfs and dwarves, unexpected heroes and so on); while the series of movies being the same with practical effects and digital. The tale of a transition between eras takes a lot of time to create itself in the mind of someone in the form of a legend.
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>>86759945
It's happening right now in the form of the new SW films ;^)
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>>86760088
>just watched the first Fellowship special features DVD that came with the extended trilogy blu ray set
>all those little details Jackson made sure to get down including hiring two professional Tolkien illustrators and putting in scenes that would fit in perfectly with the world Tolkien built
Goddamn he really was a great director once, though it's more a movie based on sheer luck with its time of creation and perfect casting.
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These films came out at a time when we were in constant fear after 9/11 and brought a much needed world of wonder and amazement to shield us from the shitty events going on, same with Harry Potter 1 and 2 at the same time.
Anyone who was a kid at the time can attest to that.
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>>86761602
Only Amerisharts cared about 9/11, fuck off
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game of thrones/
.
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>>86759945
Harry Potter.

/thread
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>>86759945
yes.. yes.... well done tolkien well done tolkien

HOWEVER
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>>86761602
Upvoted
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>can we ever get a trilogy with a hopeless fuckstick warping of the source material again?
>le best weed in the shire
>le comic relief chunkyshortstack
>skateboarding on shields
I hope not, Anon. I hope not.
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>>86762601
kys contrarian faggot
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>>86759945
already did
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>>86759945

No

An all male white team? Problematic these days
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>>86762620
They're not faithful and they're too long and pointless as self contained experiences.
You fuck off, tasteless shitter.
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>>86759945
No.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PSRfHizrDoQ
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we got star wars only 20 years prior, its been 20 years, are you guys seeing this
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>>86759945
Sadly not. For some reason, people prefer to do stuff in front of a green screen now for whatever reason.
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>>86759945
Wait for the remake. We can make some bets to see who will be change to fir modern audiences.
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>>86761602
No1 gave a shit about 9/11 but muricans tho.
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>>86762657
not him but i would say the movies do a good job in staying faithful without including everything from the books
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>>86762705

Legolas will be a Chinese woman, all the hobbits will be brown, Gandalf will be Samuel L Jackson , Gimli will be played by Peter Dinklage, Aragorn will be Idris Elba and Bormoir will be Sean Bean
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>'By 2020, 50 percent of the children in Holland under the age of 18 will be of Muslim descent. Western Europeans are not having any babies. The population of Germany at the end of the century is going to be 56 per cent of what it is now. The population of France, 52 per cent of what it is now. There is a change happening in the very complexion of Western civilisation in Europe that we should think about at least and argue about.

>'If it just means the replacement of one genetic stock with another genetic stock, that does not matter too much. But if it involves the replacement of Western civilisation by a different civilisation with different cultural values, then it is something we really ought to discuss - because, goddammit, I am for dead white male culture.'

wtf I love Gimli now
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>>86759945
Yes, when Glass comes out in 2019.
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>>86762459

DUDE TAXES LMAO!
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>>86759945
No because of Leftist woman and numales. SJWisms must take the place of quality storytelling, white people must be erased from their own cultures, all films must meet approval from a panel of jaded moneymen who don't know shit and have to play it safe by appeasing the mob who shouts loudest, in this day and age it is the ugly retarded Left. That's why Stars Wars has also slid right down the shitter, people will always love Luke, Han and Leia, but who will remember any of the new characters in 30 years time?
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You are now aware that remake will happen in your lifetime
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>>86760088
It's weird that LotR is so perfect. Jackson isn't a great director but he allowed brilliance to transfer to the screen. In fact, the films work better as a story than the book imo.
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>>86762904
Rhys Davies seems like a great guy. I wish I knew him.
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>>86759945
>Can a trilogy of this calibre ever be achieved again?
Does this mean the last Planet of the Apes sucked?
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>>86762760
>>86761891
This. I didn't even know it was a thing until 2010s.
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>>86759945
I highly doubt it, not in our lifetimes anyway. The amount of work that went into this is unprecedented.
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>>86762601
So this is the power of the /tv/ contrarian. Laughable at best.
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I just don't know what happened with The Hobbit. It could have been great, but Jackson just sold out completely and made three Michael Bay-tier action flicks to rob the pockets of us LotR hopefuls. I remember going to see the first one in theaters, anticipating something in line with how amazing LotR was and I got shitty CGI monsters, cart racing scenes and slapstick comedy. I didn't even bother with the next two, I knew they were going to be fucking shit.

The Dark Tower could have been our next great movie series but nope, it got fucked up too.
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>>86763984
you should have seen the third hobbit film
made the first two look like quality productions
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Boring shit, the hobbit was better. Both are too long however.
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>>86762904
That's not even close to being true true & most of the Muslims in Netherlands are Turks

Hes still based though & we should worry about mass Islamic immigration, their culture is not compatible at all
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>>86763684
He was a good friend.
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>>86763620

>You are now aware that remake will happen in your lifetime

And a Frozen live action version will be made before that, what a time to be alive!
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>>86764016
thank god i didnt even try anymore after the first two
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>>86764096
no it wasn't. there was some beefed up securities and terrorist awareness but it passed after sometime and people were doing hakas a couple of months later
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>>86764187
Please ignore /pol/ posters
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>>86763984
It's actually pretty sad what happened with The Hobbit.
Jackson had less than 6 months of pre-production, as opposed to 4 years for LOTR.
The studio pushed him into making another trilogy, even though he wanted to make two movies.
If you watch the Behind the Scenes footage, everyone is very stressed, disappointed and angry.
Everything had to be incredibly rushed, from the script to the prop-making, which is partly why so much ended up being CGI.
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For the last time, no.
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They wouldn't make a movie this White & Male again that's for sure
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>>86763984
>"Oy Vey, Mr Jackson, we've been hearing rumours you plan to make the Hobbit in two parts and not three?"
"Yes, it's a short childrens book"
>"Oy Gevalt, what a holocaust, Mr Jackson, we are missing out on a third film worth of shekels here"
"It'll be hard to make the source material last two films, let alone 3"
>"A shoah, right here in my office, remember the 2 billion, Mr Jackson, we demand you make stuff up, invent new characters, show popular characters from Lord of the Rings, lots and lots of CGI"
"Yes, my chosen one"
>"One last thing you Goy animal, we hear the dragon has 4 legs... it only needs 2 to walk, many shekels will be saved"
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>>86764264
> what a holocaust

Kek
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>>86764187
Deleted and reposted my post to correct some grammar
My parents were adults at the time of 9/11, and they say that it changed heaps in society
Mainstream people became aware of the Islamic threat and were highly concerned
Long gone were the days of mainstream acceptance of the lie about how all religions preach peace blablabla
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>>86761525
>based on sheer luck
Wouldn't call all the dedication and skill of many people sheer luck, but it certainly played into it. Like Viggo get cast like 1-3 days before filming started.
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>>86764206
>9/11 was a huge deal in NZ
>We were terrified that terrorists might know of our existence

This is complete and utter bullshit.

Do not EVER post as if you speak for NZ again, you fucking cunt.
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>>86764431
I believe what my parents told me about the mainstream public reaction to 9/11 over some random loser on /tv/
>Do not EVER post as if you speak for NZ again, you fucking cunt
u mad bro XDDDD ;)
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>>86764524
>I believe what my parents told me about the mainstream public reaction to 9/11 over some random loser on /tv/

I'll believe what I and everyone else I knew thought about 9/11 when it happened, you pathetic numale cunt.

Nobody gives a fuck about how you and your pathetic, paranoid family cried in fear, numale.
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>>86764738
My family wasn't scared at all
They are fundamentalist Christians who knew about the Muslim threat looooong before 9/11
They said that the western world woke up after 9/11, and how the unaware masses were shocked by 9/11
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>>86762898
>Boromir will be Sean Bean
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>>86764738
You must be a northerner with your lame attempt at copying Australian humour XD
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Yes
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Are the newer ones worth watching.. Smaug something and the other one(two?)?
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>>86759945
They've been desperately trying to replicate it for over a decade now with Harry Potter, Hunger Games, Narnia etc. They'll never achieve anything like this again at least in terms of sheer quality and originality.

It was just a phenomenon, a quite low budget epic that flew under the radar with a cast mostly of relative unknowns at the time shot back to back in an incredibly well thought out location with groundbreaking special effects tech.
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>>86759945
No because normies don't want to see niggers of Peace prancing around saving the day in a ancient European setting no matter what SJW's say.

Liberals want to fucking retcon everything.
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>>86759989
No it's not because by now we'd have 5 more sequels and 1 prequel and 2 spin offs in the works. And idris elba in the lead role
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>>86765036
Harry Potter did really well

But Disney failed quite hard with Narnia, it's probably why they purchased Star Wars as they wanted their own blockbuster franchise
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>>86764206
>Resorting to memes and namecalling
Typical american.
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>>86765448
>assuming I'm American
Kek
Nice damage control bro
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>>86765466
>I-I'm totally not American, guys!
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>>86765520
Where do you come from?
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>>86764033
>most of the Muslims in Netherlands are Turks
Is that supposed to be a good thing?
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>>86764524
>not old enough to experience it himself
>has to be told how it was like
Wew you sure showed him lad.
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>>86761891
So only the most relevant and important nation on the planet cares. Good enough for me.
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>>86765596
No, but when people think Muslims they tend to think Arabs & Blacks, Western Turks are just Greeks with a tad of central asian maybe
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>>86764033
>& most of the Muslims in Netherlands are Turks
Oh, all's well then I guess. kek
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>>86762904
>I am for dead white male culture.'
Wait so he is for dead white males or not
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>>86765539
The Netherlands
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>>86765647
If that anon is old enough to remember 9/11, then he is a loser for still going on 4chan

>>86765774
I'm a kiwi
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Daily reminder that Holland is just one region in the Netherlands.
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>>86766077
Meant for
>>86762904
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>>86762904
Just bomb Almere and the problem is solved
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>>86760891
>Liking Toro after the fuck up that the Hobbit was.
I hope he apologized to Jackson.
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>>86764836
>9/11 was a huge deal in NZ
>We were terrified

>My family wasn't scared at all

kys retard
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>>86759945
Literally not possible in today's society
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>>86761602
>These films came out at a time when we were in constant fear after 9/11
>constant fear
hahaha
no
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>>86765785
Don't forget, you're here forever.
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>A film about White males defeating the Dark Hordes
>Being made today

Haha
HAHAHA
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>>86766325

Dang too true.

>all white cast with talented actors

The highest elf would need to be black, there'd be a mixed race romance just because, and at some point they'd unironically focus on some group being oppressed and fighting the higher authority.
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>>86759945
Very unlikely. It's literally a miracle of cinematic history. The epitome of lightning in a bottle.
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>>86759945
Silmarillion trilogy >> LOTR

>>86761602
lol
I was more worried about USA panicking & bombing every country in middleeast than 9/11
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>>86766402
Hilariously enough the early 00s that mark the end of epic trilogies and sagas we had in that period of less than a decade also mark the beginning of corporate jews replacing creativity and freedom of expression with forced quotas and green screens. Audiences changed that's for sure.
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>>86763984
People still seem to blame Jackson for the Hobbit. The director dropped out and like the other anon said he had like 6 months of pre production for 3 films.

Massive sections of the films were made up on the same day, the battles in the last film for example. Having to use a green screen for everything was depressing and you could see it on his face, even Ian McKellen even broke down in tears during the bag end scenes and said he was done and didn't want to film anymore because it was all green screen and all of the scenes were performed by himself without the dwarves
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>>86766537
This isn't an over exaggeration either, every single thing about it is pure magic.

One of the most unrecognized scenes, but the score and beauty of this scene could never be done again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3I8I_i8Syw
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>>86766537
Nah it was a golden era of green screen back when the audience wasn't tired of it and producers weren't bunch of lazy hacks that started cutting corners everywhere and instead of working on set they started working in front of a computer replacing everything with CGI. I honestly wouldn't be able to name 5 good movies from last 5 years. I can probably name 20 great ones from the period of late 90s to mid 00s.
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>>86766670
Hackson isn't as much to fault as some believe or as blameless as you seem to suggest. He deserves his fair share of blame for a lot of the bullshit in that trilogy.
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>>86766671
A fucking scene of some mystical gay ass horse is giving me shivers down the spine. Bravo Jackson.
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>>86764208
>>86764264
>>86766726
What's wrong with CGI?
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>>86763772
That's cause you were born in 2002
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>>86766788
Nothing is wrong with CGI, but when Marvel pumps out entire movies done infront of a green screen it loses it's touch. What weta and Peter Jackson did with visual effects was ground breaking at the time.

The last "ground breaking"' movie in visual effects terms was Avatar and that fell flat in every other aspect. But there's no denying that when you saw that movie in 3-D, when 3D was a new thing, that it was a visual treat. But Lord of the Rings succeeded in almost everything.
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>>86766788
Inherently nothing. Like I said CGI and green screens had their golden age. It's the way hacks started using CGI for everything. Best directors blended CGI with reality mixing real sets, props and actors with CGI to the point where you can't tell what's real or not. Shitty ones make you feel like the protagonist is sitting in a small room with green walls fighting armies of uncanny valley. That's why imo LOTR battles looked more real than the ones from Five Armies.
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>>86766788
It's the notion that more is always better and that the progress for the sake of progress is somehow a good thing.
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>>86766872
Fuck you, Avatar was great.
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>>86766402
Not even saying it was that good, but looking back on it I can barely believe 300 got made. Squeaked in just 3 months before the launch of tumblr. A different time.
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>>86767011
>I can barely believe 300 got made

As you're obviously a fuckwit and a drama queen that's no great surprise.
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>>86767011
That's the same reason why I shitpost claiming Snyder is a GOTY director. I absolutely hate DC movies but I give him a pass thanks to 300 and what it stands for.
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>>86767048
Fuck off back to /co/ you leftist faggot
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>>86767101
But /co/ is for nazi furries.
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>>86767048
It would not be possible to make a blockbuster with that subject matter and tone in today's environment. Do you deny this?
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>>86762459
But what was his tax policy? Because you should totally care.
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>>86767167
You're thinking of /pol/, anon.
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>>86767196
Of course.
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>>86767260
But /pol/ despises furries.
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>>86767326
>/pol/ makes a labored and unconvincing show of despising furries

ftfy
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>>86759945
Can a footfu of this calibre ever be achieved again?
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>>86767347
>well you *say* you don't like this thing, so that must mean you secretly love this thing!

Stop thinking in memes.
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>>86765596
Turks used to be a tad bit more secular.
Sadly that is gone, too.
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>>86767419
>well you *say* you don't like this thing, so that must mean you secretly love this thing!

That's the narcissism of small differences for you.
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>>86761261
Good one anon!
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>>86765036
Harry Potter is arguably even more popular and the bigger franchise.
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>>86767011
This. But then again a sequel was made and while it had an empowered female. Artemisa did exist so is not that far off.
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No. Movie studios are so greedy now that they would split each book adaptatoon in 2 making it 6 movies long, released more sporadically to make room for spinoffs movies between the main trilogy.
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My kang
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>>86767494
/pol/ are like furfags, but they're not furfags.
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>>86767494
But people hate furries because of their degeneracy, not because of any of the things he listed.
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>>86765688
>>86765688
>Mr 56%

Go fuck yourself with your nigger spic jew Nation
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>>86768550
I can feel your irrelevancy seething through this post
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>>86762496
>>86768665
>thinks his country is relevant
>no free Healthcare
>30% spic
>15% nigger
>5% Chink Chong
>have to pay for college

Wow how relevant are you being the problem causer of the world ain't being relevant stupid nigger
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>>86768771
good god this inferiority complex, settle down Napoleon
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How much would these movies cost today?

Change nothing about the story and the process to make it, whats the cost with adjusted inflation? I still can't believe how little they were made for and how good they look. Green screen appears to be more expensive if anything.
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>>86769120
2 european dollar
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>>86766788
CGI can be good but since it doesn't require directors to use sets and locations to film it means that many simply use it as a crutch and to save money and so a lot of films end up with shitty CGI that just looks awful.
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>>86769192
CGI takes alot of work, though.
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>>86766192
>>86760891
>liking del Toro after the Hoobit AND removing Ron Bossman for Hellboy 3
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how do you fuck up THIS bad

https://youtu.be/SQkygZdZ_Vk
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>>86767067
>Snyder is a Game Of The Year director.
What
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>>86769120
They were made for 90 million each which I think now with inflation would still be something ridiculous like 135 million each. It's definitely around that number, I remember looking it up out of curiosity recently.

Shit's fucking crazy how good those movies are and how the special effects hold up to the point where you can count the amount of dated CGI on 1 hand.
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>>86772113
he didn't fuck up, the studio did.
>no pre-production time at all
>dude film it in 3D which makes all of your practical effects look like shit so now you have to CGI it all lmao, just imagine the extra monies my man
>oh btw I know you're halfway through production but we're gonna need you to change 2 films into 3 without giving you more time or moving the release dates. Never mind the fact that 2 films is already more than enough.

WB basically strongarmed Jackson into doing it too since after Del Taco dropped out they said if he didn't direct it they were going to get Brett Ratner to direct The Hobbit, so Jackson could either try to salvage the movies the best he could out of love for the source material or let it get raped before his eyes by one of the worst directors in Hollywood.
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>>86772923
>hackson was a gud boi he dindu nuffin
He isn't guiltless, a lot of the Hobbit's bullshit was directly his ideas too
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Yes but it will be some time before then
After the current world order collapses we will get that movie, probably more than one actually.
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>can a more effective visual sleep aid even be achieved

no, not possible
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>>86767444
Still shitskin Mehmet lmao
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>>86772993
oh yeah, he's definitely at fault for a lot of the problems with the films, but most of those were decisions caused by lack of time and being rushed from the beginning. They didn't even give him more time when he was hospitalized for a month during pre-production, he was working from his hospital bed.

also the fact that Jackson was in shape and healthy looking at the start of production and 3 years later had gone completely grey and turned into the fat fuck he was when he was making Lord of the Rings made me sad as shit. You know that was all because of stress, too.
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>>86762688
and The Man With no name 20 years prior Star Wars
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>>86759945
>Can a trilogy of this calibre ever be achieved again?
Yes.
>Will it?
Maybe, who knows if it'll have the same soul that LoTR has though.
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>>86764524
Just how young are you? :^)
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>>86759945

If pic related is ever adapted faithfully, then it will sit alongside LotR.

Speaking of which, there's a correspondence between Wolfe and Tolkien from early in Wolfe's career. I should dig that up if anyone's interested.
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