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Todd Phillips And Martin Scorsese To Direct DCEU Joker Origin Film

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http://deadline.com/2017/08/the-joker-origin-movie-todd-phillips-martin-scorsese-scott-silver-batman-dc-universe-1202154053/amp/
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>Joker origin story
DUDE UNRELIABLE NARRATOR LMAO
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Dckino
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>>86745518
Tfw when it's real
>Todd Philips
>Scorsese
Wtf
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What.
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>>86745518
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>>86745518
...just...stop
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>>86745518
Finally we get to find out how he got those scars.
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>>86745518
Even with Scorsese, if it has Leto as Joker it's going to be utter shit.
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This is too good to be true
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>>86745518
DC needs to get their shit together. Joker shouldn't have an origin. Not knowing is one of his main attractions. Origin stories always fuck up the mystique of characters like his.
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Marvel is so dead lmao, this is the first Academy Award best picture comic book film winner.
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Scorsese lol. Im a huge fan of his but I dont whether this will work out for him or not.

>>86745879
Did you read the deadline article? It said that it will have a different actor as joker
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The article says it's not part of the DCEU?

>This will be the first film under a new banner that has yet to be named in which WB can expand the canon of DC properties and create unique storylines with different actors playing the iconic characters.

This is going to confuse the fuck out of everyone.
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Makes it sound like it's not canon to DCEU
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Second try adapting this?
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It should just be told in flashbacks while joker opens up to Harley in arkham.
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>>86746180
I want this so much!
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>>86745942
>Not knowing is one of his main attractions.
Not really. Everyone gladly see Killing Joke as canon.
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>>86745942
That only became a thing because of the dark knight
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>>86746180
You can't adapt the Killing Joke because one of the things that makes it so good is the art. You can't translate that to live action.
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>>86746074

Isn't that kind of how the comics are, though? Batman seems to change between writers/artists.
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please no
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>Jared Leto will reprise in the Suicide Squad sequel and the Harley Quinn spinoff, but this new film will launch the character with a different actor, possibly younger.
Is WB trying to be the next Sony?
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>Todd Phillips And Martin Scorsese To Direct DCEU Joker Origin Film

I was thinking Todd Haynes for a minute and I was ready for some Douglas Sirk lighting and Gimme Shelter batman
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>>86745518

national tragedy
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Everybody who isn't excited about this is a redditor pleb

>The intention is to make a gritty and grounded hard-boiled crime film set in early-’80s Gotham City that isn’t meant to feel like a DC movie as much as one of Scorsese’s films from that era, like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull or The King Of Comedy

that's the dopest shit
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>>86745518

>Joker Origin

This shit is as redundant as a Superman Origin story

JUST STOP
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>>86745518
>Origin story for the Joker
WB can't be that retarded, can they?
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>>86745518
Can someone tell why the fuck does DC or Warner wants big hollywood film makers to direct their films while Marvel gets indie non hollywood guys to direct their films
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>>86746466
But the gist of Joker's origin is enough.
He's may or may not have been a comedian
He became the red hood
fell into a vat of acid
and he was the Joker.
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>>86746491
You would be surprised how few people actually know the Jokers origin.

When the killing joke animation came out multiple of my friends didn't know Jokers origin. One of them even told me they thought it was supposed to be secret or nobody really knew for sure.
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>>86745518
Joaquin Phoenix as Joker fucking when?
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>>86746466
t. picture related

Fucking cancerous popnerd
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>>86745518
>goodfellas/Casino with the joker

K I N O
I
N
O
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>>86746384
that's a fair point, but we've had less than 2 hours of combined Batman and Joker screentime so far and they're already rushing to shit like this, what is going on over at WB?
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>>86746406
>implying Leto Joker isn't Robin
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>>86746584
Joaquin is better than that, he doesn't give a shit about fame or big capeshit money, he sticks to actual films
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>>86745857

We already know how Joker got his scars he was shaving while posting on Reddit
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>>86746577
i don't care about any gay ass comic "oh the joker should be mysterious" bullshit, i just want to see a Scorsese produced, Scorsese-esque crime movie with the joker

>>86746590
spare me your autistic pleb bullshit
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>>86746147
because it isn't, it flat out says it isn't, these spin offs are WB hedging their bets under the assumption that the DCEU is fucked
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>>86746579
The Joker's identity is better as a secret.

Having some random gangster/criminal turning into the Joker is one of the worst things ever.
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>>86745518
Martin fucking Scorsese? He's supposed to be making The Irishman and then he's got a couple other interesting projects.
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All you fuckers who didn't see Silence drove him to this.

His fucking masterpiece was met with general apathy. Not even critical disdain, just a "meh".

Worked his fingers to the bone on that film. Now you've killed him.
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>>86746590
Oh yeah I remember how Harry Potter obsessed Pinterest users all love Scorsese and 80s crime thrillers. I'm familiar with that stereotype.
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>joker
>origin
but that's missing the point
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>>86745518
wowowowowoowowoww
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so the move is guaranteed to end with Joker transformation and he massacres whatever poor fucks were harassing him into the Chemical warehouse heist right?
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>>86746361
Yes you can jafndjwocifnrkFUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>86746680
he should have focused on a project that didn't involve Catholics getting tortured to death by asians

he literally alienated every demographic
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>>86745518
D*sney will NEVER EVER get someone as good as the Scorz to produce their capeshit
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>>86746584
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>>86746610

Realistically, they want to beat Marvel/Disney but have absolutely no idea how to do it, so they throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
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>>86746758
they already got Kenneth Branagh, it's just a shame he revealed only too late that fantasy films are his one weakness
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This is exactly the type of weird auteur shit WB should be doing
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>>86746384
except normies are fucking retarded and assume every Batman movie ever made is linked too each other

they will assume this is part of the DCEU and be confused why everyone is played by different actors
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>>86745518
>joker appears on screen
>70s music starts playing while jared leto narrates a montage
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>>86746590

>WE DO GEEK

That picture cured my cancer and gave me Aids
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>>86745518
THANK YOU

Joker is the only character I care about in the DCEU
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has Scorz ever expressed interest or knowledge in comics before?
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>>86746361
You could, but you'd have to alter the plot to a degree.

But those scene with Gordon would look sick on film. With a competent casting, visuals and director. Rated R ofc
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>producer
And here I thought it was going to be directed by him
you fucking cunts
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>>86746661
>movies get bad reviews
>still makes a ton of cash

yeah, WB is really scared you fucking Mouseketeer faggot.
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>>86746676
Did you even see the killing joke? His origin is amazing. He's just some dude that got roped into the wrong shit because he was trying to protect his family.
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>>86747035
>still makes tons of cash
>against a stupidly huge budget and advertising campaign that ultimately isn't paying out what they want

they make money, but not enough to make WB happy or warrant the time and money it costs to make them
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>>86747088
(you)
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> still giving the literal shittiest Batman villain screentime
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>>86747140
as opposed to giving a movie to...
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>>86746074
What if WB/DC make Elseworlds a franchise? Not just a cinematic universe... a cinematic MULTIVERSE?
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>>86745942
Turns out David 8 created xenomorphs and the Joker
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>>86747187

Mister Mxyzptlk
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>>86747088
[citation needed]
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>>86747196
That would be fine with me as long as they don't throw Cavill, Batfleck, and Let under the bus to do it. I was under the impression that WB wants to do cookie cut shit moving forward. Elseworlds will trigger audiences.
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>>86747187
Hush
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>>86747238
no one wants to see a movie about a Gilbert Godfrey voiced midget...although saying that out loud does make it sound kind of interesting
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*Gimme Shelter starts playing*
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>>86747404
fucking christ this just made me realize

this is the perfect opportunity to have Joker do shit while All Along the Watch Tower plays in the background
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>>86746859
kkek
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>>86745518

I love the DCEU but what the fuck is this?

I mean, they could easily make this work and let the movie be a literal troll-fest with a "I was just fucking with you retards" twist where joker reveals that the whole movie was a lie. no studio would be that brave though

my main concern is the "new banner" shit that is going on. this could be a huge continuity issue in the eye of mass audiences
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>>86745518
I don't want a "Joker origin". I want a Joker's Gang movie where he's already deeply seeded in Gotham's lore.
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>>86747607
like>>86746661

WB isn't putting all of its DC eggs in one basket and is broadening their options with this new spinoff banner

honestly if it means we get interesting stuff that isn't bound to DCEU continuity I'm all for it
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>>86747703
this is basically like all the non-canon shit Marvel's been putting out, except it's a movie that'll actually turn a profit with a character people actually give a shit about lmao
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>>86746074
So one-off movies?
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>>86747796

>this is basically like all the non-canon shit Marvel's been putting out

this meme really needs to stop. people either need to understand what the term "canon" means or just not use it if it's untrue
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>>86748172
One-shot I mean
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If its a gangster movie where the first half follows gangster joker before seguing into a gritty r-rated joker tale after he gets turned then I'd watch it.
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>>86746074
They just accepted they can't do a cinematic universe right.
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>>86746180
>>86746251
>>86746361
killing joke is overrated Adams wrote best Joker comics
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>>86745518
It's funny that Scorsese's producing because if anyone saw the fan feature-length film Joker Rising, that's a TDK Joker origin story told as a not-very-subtle-ripoff of Goodfellas
I expect this won't be that though
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>>86745518
lol, easy capeshitters. He will only produce it.
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>>86746561
>Can someone tell why the fuck does DC or Warner wants big hollywood film makers to direct their films while Marvel gets indie non hollywood guys to direct their films
Warner has no real plan and wanted to hire big name directors to make decisions.
But then once the director hired ended up with decisions Warner don't like, Warner get mad.

Marvel already have a plan, and hire directors only when they are on the same page. Since the plan already exists it is better to hire people who are team players, who aren't prima donnas.
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>>86748193
The stuff that happens on the tv shows and Netflix shows likely stopped being considered canonical in accordance to the universe of the movies and instead became supplemental sometime at some point before Marvel Studios became seperated from the general Marvel, but they definitely became non-canonical after that point. They won't even let the Marvel shows show the complete unobscured logo for Stark Enterprises on one of the shows recently. Additionally, they've contradicted the tie-in comics in the movies in the past.
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>I'm the Joker baby
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>>86749340
WB generally goes for B-list directors who are or at least appear to be on the verge of breaking into the A-list. Robert Zemeckis is the only real exception and actually getting him on boar seems to be ice-skating uphill.
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>>86749481
man that french chick really fucked him up
fucking savage
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>>86745942
The ambiguous origin story is a modern invention. He had a completely canon origin story published ten years after his original creations, in the fifties.
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>>86745518
I want a batman movie told from the perspective of some mook working for the joker or some other rogue. They're just guarding a warehouse somewhere and batman is prowling around and taking them out one by one. Give it the tone of a slasher or a monster movie.
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>>86749366

The shows are canon since a lot of stuff was referenced in the show. Now what you mean is the producers and writers being unfaithful to the universe and fucking up referencing and remembering the movie stuff. That doesn't mean the shows are non-canon, it just means that consistency is shit at Marvel headquarters
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>>86749676
Yeah I'd watch that given how mad of a serial killer Batman is.
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>>86747697
No one cares about what you want, nigger.
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>>86745518
Hopefully no Leto.
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>>86745942
Origin stories give more depth to a character. So you are wrong.
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>>86748394
This
Bronze Age Joker was the best
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>>86747196
That's exactly what WB/DC is doing. And they've been doing it since Arrow.
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>>86747196
>DCEU is not just a Cinematic Universe with DC characters but a Cinematic Universe with a few multiverse standalones to stick out from MCU''s synergy.

>Zack Snyder returns to direct a Thomas Wayne Batman.
>Ian Mcshane as cobblepot, Thomas Wayne's accountant
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>>86747607
that would be the greatest kino ever made
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>>86746561
Disney's tv directors are glorified babysitters who will happily say yes to whatever the mouse says so that they could have a big motion picture in their resume.
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>>86745780
RIP Bens face aesthetics
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it should basically be the Joe Pesci storyline in Casino, but instead of being thrown into a hole in a corn field, it should be a bath of acid or whatever... set to stones music

https://youtu.be/6HDdiz8MU8o

After all this time, Finally, I'm Joker
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>>86751822
Kino.
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>>86745518
This will tie into Reeves prequel trilogy

Pic related
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Cast the young up and coming stand up comedian who gets in over his head and becomes the legendary monster and clown prince of crime of Gotham
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>>86745857
By gambling with SHAWRKS
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>>86745518
What?!? Dropping a cinematic universe in order to make a decent stand-alone movie? That's impossible!
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Do you make him likeable and relatable before his transformation or was he always a cunt?

Do you make his transformation tragic or merely the inevitable conclusion of the steps he took in his life that lead up to this moment

Do you make him an average joe or does he have degrees in mechanical and chemical engineering?
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>>86749834
If is not acknowledge in the movies is not Canon deal with it faggot
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>>86746561
Marvel films are guaranteed to earn profits, so they can hire shit-tier directors, have shit-tier CGI and still not have to worry about anything. WB hasn't gotten there.
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>>86746584
>wanting actually good actors to get dragged into capeshit
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>>86752052
It depends on the framing device. If it's delivered straight, then you can fill his life with tragedy. If, however, there is a narrator, you can have it be told and, in possible flashbacks or whatever, change details more and more to show you cannot trust what has been said. But that risks alienating audiences.
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>>86752381

so it works one way but not the other? what kind of stupid logic would that be? just because the TV universe is secluded and not referenced by the movies specifically doesn't mean the shows are not canon. At this point, I really don't know whether this is all but a stupid troll or not

>have Iron Man
>Iron Man kills Mandarin and blows up half of Asia in the process
>have Agents of SHIELD comic
>Agent Coulson mentions how Iron Man just blew up half of Asia
>"NOT CANNON BECAUSE IRON MAN DOESN'T TALK ABOUT AGENTS OF SHIELD!!!!!!!!!!"

this is how you people sound. the movies don't have the time to address unimportant shit from the shows
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>>86753286

I think audiences would love it if WB played the Deadpool card and either made the movie some kind of Uncle Joker Storytime in which he is breaking the fourth wall and reading from a book about his origins or they just do a Tales from the Crypt kind of thing in which he offers several origin stories. Fuck me if I know what would be the best way to do this
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>>86753477
it can't be a comedy, that is the one thing it can't be

Joker is not ha ha funny, he is a monster, pure chaotic evil and everything he does is deplorable and disgusting
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>movie ends with Leto Joker pitching the origin idea to Martin
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>>86747187
Calendar Man
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