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Death Note getting panned by critics

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What went wrong?

Is this the end of shitty Western adaptations of Japanese source material?
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None of the characters look or act like their anime counterparts. They just share the same names.
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Anime is dead.
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Grace likes it
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Hopefully
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>anigay
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but is anyone other than /v/edditors who beg for these to be made surprised?
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>>86733165
whats the point of making the exact same thing just live action. clearly you are too stupid to understand that already exists and that its pointless
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>>86733666
what's the point in completely changing everything so much that it goes against the concept of what it's adapting? and not for the better
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press S to spit on its grave
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>>86733753
Changing the characters appearance doesnt go against the concept of what its adapting. You dont know anything else besides that because it isnt out yet
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>>86733666
Don't adapt is then, Satan
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>>86733823
The trailer gave away enough that is is pure ARSE, fuck off Netflix shill
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>>86733834
I'm just saying a good adaptation isnt just a superficial translation of one medium to another. Especially since death note already has live action movies like that. People have been adapting shakespeare into dozens of movies, radio dramas, plays obviously, novelizations, because the director or creator or whatever changes it in ways to make the adaptation unique. a robot could do the job most plebs think the point of an adaptation is
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>>86733823
lol it has nothing to do with appearance you retard. they literally changed the three main characters into things that they are not. Light is now a dumb edgy teenager who just happened to get the book. his girlfriend is now an edgy cheerleader who acts like a bitch and smokes. L is now an activist who acts like a clown.

anime is just not meant to be adapted. it does not translate well.
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>>86733113
>What went wrong?
They made a 2 hours movie about a 6/10 tier 48 episodes anime shoehorning action, shit casting and netflix
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>>86733823
>>86733995
im sorry i didnt mean to call you a retard, i feel bad.
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>>86733823
The characters don't share any of the same character traits either. You would know that if you even bothered to watch the trailer.
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>>86733666
Because Japan did a good live action version
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>>86733995
Death note doesnt have a concept. It has no theme or deeper level of thought put into it, you can read about how the author admits this on wikipedia. What you consider the "concept" of death note is just your plebbit brain trying to discern depth when it doesnt exist. Anyways my point is just this >>86733959
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>>86733113
Congress should pass a law making it illegal for Hollywood to make live-action adaptations of anime and vidyas.
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>>86734124
Why is it good? because its exactly the same? thats just retarded. you plebs are too retarded to understand what a good adaptation is. it should never be the same. the japanese death note movies are just absolutely pure cash grabs very similar to the 20th century boys movies
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>>86733113
African L for one. Negro L in death note, like seriously, why did they think it was a good idea to go full chocoLate with the character? Monkey L has no place in this series, nor ever will. Sick of these bLacks ruining franchises.
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>>86733113
>Is this the end of shitty Western adaptations of Japanese source material?

Lmao
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>>86734016
>:2/5)!853 2-: /£85
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>>86734046
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all the reviews complain about is the "whitewashing" so the movie is probably good

the liberal film media is a joke
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>>86734355
which review
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Anime is shit to begin with and it baffles me why Hollywood would adapt foreign crap instead of doing Western stories instead.
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>>86734264
Speaking of black L, did anyone see this cringy interview with the guy? Seriously hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ0dAhBAcAY
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>>86734465
Whats wrong with this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OfVHRpGrRc
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>>86734465
>wearing a net
what the fuck ? that doesn't cover his black face, stupid boy lol
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>>86734355
Do they complain about the shitwashing of L?
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>>86734465
AYO
https://youtu.be/QQ0dAhBAcAY?t=4m15s
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>>86734792
ironically no. same reviews who complain about whitewashing say the black guy playing L is a highlight of the movie

HMMM WHAT COULD THE JEW CRITICS POSSIBLY MEAN BY THIS
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>>86734870
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hmm
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>>86733113
>premise relies on a smart nigger

wow
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>>86733753
>what's the point in completely changing everything so much that it goes against the concept of what it's adaption
Because sometimes the original concept has interesting idea, but is in general shit.
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>>86734836
>>86734465
>that failed high five
rofl
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anime is fucking trash so this will be objectively better because it's a film and not a degenerate cartoon
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>>86734967
What's with all these inserted political views in movie reviews these days?
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>>86734967
jesus if it had been made any later that could have very well been in the script
https://youtu.be/1_b2FDzG9Y8?t=2m17s
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>>86733113
Weebs don't like stuff being westernized.
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US already ripped it off in 2007, it didn't need to do it again
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1018820/
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>>86734967
>margaret qualley
HNNNGGGGG
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>>86735109
Virtue signalling
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>Light is supposed to be this extremely good looking young prodigy with genius level intellect.

>this is what they casted

kek
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>they pitched it to netflix as a series
should have been a series
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We can only hope

Anime and video game live action adaptations are pure cancer
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The only confusing part is why the original shit isn't being panned across the board as well, even when disregarding weebs.
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Netflix is a fucking joke at this point
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>>86735354
Clearly they're not going for the same type of character Light was in the manga, anime or even Japanese films. He seems to be more like the Japanese live action tv series Light, who was pretty pathetic and dumb at the start.
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>>86734967
>a love story in fucking Death Note
How do you miss the point so hard? How?

also
>he inmediately starts speaking about the note with other people
fuck sake, Japanese L would catch this idiot on two days top
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>weebshit is shit

Colour me shocked.
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>>86735354
>they missed their chance for a perfect Light by about 10 years
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>>86734967
>ISIS leaders

Shit I mean the movie probably has some line about how just killing an ISIS leader wouldn't do any good. But wouldn't the Death Note be like the ideal method of targeting terrorist leaders? If you can get a substantial list of names, you could get something accomplished. Confirmed kills of even the most elusive members of the organization, with zero collateral damage so no innocent deaths can be used for propaganda purposes. That's the closest I can think of to a method for efficiently dismantling a terrorist organization. A Death Note adaptation about Light waging a secret war on ISIS would be inherently retarded, but there's absolutely no justifiable reason for him not to do so.
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>>86734967
>Gets the power to murder anyone
>Confirms the power himself
>First thing he does is tell some hot girl for the chance for some pussy
Holy shit
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>>86735494
>How do you miss the point so hard? How?
Because nip Misa would be regarded as sexist and we can't have that in the current year
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>>86733783
Can I piss on it's grave? (my fellow ebonic gentleman behave)
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>>86735601
This
>chad manipulates ditzy girl and uses her the entire series
Let's see how that fares. Although considering this shit had like 28% on rotten tomatoes they should've just kept to the source material
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>>86735349

>kill the president
>let muslim terrorists live
>this is "virtue signalling" to lefties
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>What went wrong?
You know what went wrong
Other than the usually western adaptation bullshit that ensures that any adaptation of manga will be shit
>Take character that millions of fujoshit get wet at ( this is pretty much your target audience )
>Make the character black
>Fujoshit no longer care because they aren't going to schlick to some nigger who is the opposite of the bishounen they were salivating over.

Western media literally cannot comprehend what makes anime/manga popular so they butcher it in the adaptations every single time.
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>>86735447
You're seriously confused at a good anime not being panned? Are you this retarded good sir?
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>>86735647
tbqh I would have rather have the original series end with Misa backstabbing Light for using her rather than him losing to L's slightly more autistic clone.
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Remember when we waited until the film was out before we judged it? No? Oh, sorry, I must be in the brainlet general.
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>>86735549
Like how would it affect ISIS as an organization and ideological entity if you had all of its major leaders and members suddenly start committing suicide? That would both decapitate the organization and totally deflate its ideological strength. You can make someone commit suicide with the Death Note, right?
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>>86733113
>Is this the end of shitty Western adaptations of Japanese source material
as much as I hope it is, no
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>>86735556
original Lighto-kun is a psychopath

amerilard Light is a "psycho"
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>>86735808
I assume this what is happening here
>You can make someone commit suicide with the Death Note, right?
yeah you can make them do pretty much anything within reason, if what is written isn't physically possible then they just die from a heart attack.
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Death Note was already pretty retarded from the beginning tbqh.

I can only imagine how much worse a western adaptation of it would be.
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Only huge retarded plebs who shouldn't be watching movies believe that the jap live action films were good, seriously, just spend your days watching anime or playing anime dating simulators and stay the fuck away from films
I'm not defending this particular Death Note movie, i'm just saying
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Fuck he's also making Godzilla vs. King Kong.
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>>86735601
But Light is supposed to be evil. Why an evil person isn't allowed to do evil things? I don't get it.
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>>86733823
L is a nigger, it's not DN
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>>86736041
>Light can make an ISIS leader die in any way possible, including a way that would deny him martyrdom (again, suicide, massive hernia, etc)
>He just kills him the same way a military drone strike would kill him

jfc
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>>86736088
and the I saw the devil burger remake
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>>86734967
hot garbage
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>>86733823
Don't bother. Most of these faggots think Death Note is a 10/10 mastapeece and they refuse to accept it's entry level at best.
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>>86733783
Can I piss on it's grave? (my fellow ebonic gentleman behave)
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>>86736088
Just give the Kong vs Godzilla to the guy who directed Kong Skull Island, seriously, even if he's a retarded manchild Kong was good because it was cheesy and stupid as fuck, what are you gonna do with a Godzilla vs Kong movie?
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>>86733666
what's the point in remaking something but only shittier ?
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>>86736101
He isn't really evil, just manipulative, conceited and full of himself.
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>>86734967
>ISIS leaders (of course)

Please, please tell me she's not even implying it's somehow wrong to kill ISIS leaders.

You know, those guys who force little children to kill people they kidnap, then post it on the internet.
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>>86735761
Same
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>>86734465
>Misa isn't even blond
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>86735765
What bizarro /tv/ do you visit
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>>86733113
I'm actually more excited to watch this now that it's shaping up to be a "Last Airbender" level trainwreck
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>>86734465
>gets into it after reading the script
fking normie shits
the nigger was the only good thing in this interview
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Is this the original amazing content Netflix are putting so much money into?
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CAST IT
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>>86736290
Killing terrorist leaders won't improve the world, goy. ISIS is only a symptom of white male patriarchy.
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>>86736405
Has there ever been a single good "Netflix original"
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>>86736433
The first season of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt was pretty fun.
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>>86736410
Go back in time like 15 years, cast Keanu Reeves, Marisa Tomei, Russell Crowe, some unknown young actress, a dog
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>>86736423
How about we kill all left leaders ?
It turned out great for Germany.
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>>86736433
Beasts of No Nation, Stranger Things
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>>86733113
>Some American company wants to adapt an anime or manga
>They always change almost everything about it, from the character designs, the characters' motivations and personalities, to even making large alterations of the plot and themes of that anime/manga
>Wonder why the original fan base doesn't like it, and why non-anime fans would even enjoy it if it has been Westernized to being generic as possible
Why the hell do they keep doing this? Do they honestly think they know what's popular and appealing for the audiences when they decide to adapt a franchise that was popular before they even knew about it? What's the point of even getting the rights if it's just going to be unrecognizable?

Do Western corporations believe people want to see their mistaken interpretation of an established franchise, attempting to be as unfaithful to the original as possible? They should just make OC content inspired by that work instead of claiming it's a faithful adaptation of the anime or manga.
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>>86733113
>anime adaption

Shit was dead on arrival
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>>86736433
ozark
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>>86736173
Death Note being entry level garbage doesn't justify an """adaptation""" that manages to be fundamentally worse.
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>>86736290
Yeah but it fucks with the rules, write down mohammed and think of a brown guy with a beard and you've killed half of Europe.
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>this is the voice actress of Misa Amane
i... think i'm in love
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Thankfully Death Note needs no movies. It's perfect the way it is. Leave it and move on to other things.
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i will never understand, its basically a live action show already.
you can adapt it scene for scene and have a hit show.

localization to murrica doesnt change anything. ryuk can still be a shinigami, all you need is a scene where he says "ye im shinigami m8, like from japan, google it nerd"
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>>86733666
Fuck off satan, no point in adapting something if you're just gonna fuck it up.

"Hey I'm gonna make pizza but instead of tomatoes I'll use beets. It's what non-Italian audiences want!"
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>>86736733
>It's perfect the way it is
What about all the shit after L's death?
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>>86736433
Beasts of No Nation, that's about it
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>>86734967
>isis leaders
so basically the entire US congress?
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>>86736733
>near, mello
>perfect
What?
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How could you use the death note to make yourself rich?
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>>86734967
They are making Light a dindu, aren't they?
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>>86736804
I thought I was the only one. I hate the ''part 2'' of death note, after L dies. The last few episodes (never read the manga) are better since it picks up the pace but the near and mello character feel like filler, going at snails pace.

The second arc should have had light actually becoming the next L properly, not that stupid shit, and there is another, possibly even worse villain with another death note and so on..
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>>86736804
I like the way anime ended and how death of L affected Light personally and how it allowed him to basicaly take over.

Near and Mello are half the characters that L was and I think that's the point. It was even mentioned at least once. L's absence is felt and it shows how effective he was. Everybody in the show and the viewers miss him. I like it.
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>>86736881
No, they're making L a nigger. Light is a white supremacist.
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>>86733113
What a joke, Death note is literally the easiest thing to adapt. It's should be fucking impossible to fuck up.
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>>86736227
At first yes, but he's the villain of the story. Different people stop rooting for him at certain points (FBI agent, Mello, etc.)
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>>86736905
I wondered why they never adapted the Beyond Birthday novel. Probably because there's no manga but I thought that because DN was so popular they would try to make more.
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>>86735549
The leaders who just start using fake names or hiding themselves more. They're dumb but not THAT dumb.
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>>86736963
It's basically a tv series and they made a feature film. Usually it's the other way. This way they basically create an abridged version.
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>>86736905
the second half is sloppy
the strength of the series is it's original premise and first couple of arcs, unfortunately that's how most manga series end up as the authors have to produce a new chapter every week and get burnt out too quickly or just end up writing endless filler chapters
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>>86736869
>Bill Gates dies a week after he transfers a hundred million dollars to anon
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Cant wait for the american One Piece live action series...
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>>86736665
You need a photo to use the note. Can't kill multiple people with one name.
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>>86733113
>What went wrong?
don't push anime to the 3rd dimension
>Is this the end of shitty Western adaptations of Japanese source material?
we can only hope
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>>86736954
>Near and Mello are half the characters that L was
It never felt that way. To me Mello was a borderline non character that does nothing except explode himself and die while Near was a bad L rip-off with different autistic quirks.
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>>86737090
The anime version makes the last arc shorter. There's something I like about the pacing of that arc but of course I prefer the first two ones.
And Near grew on me. Especially by the end.
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>>86734254
I think the Jap version is a good adaptation based on how they changed the ending alone.

Everyone agrees the 2nd half is alot weaker in deathnote. The movie does the Genius move of L writing his own name in the deathnote and have him catch Light in the end. Not only does the ending suprise even those who read the manga or watched the anime but by omnitting N and choco fag it streamlined the story and put the focus on what really mattered in deathnote and that was L vs Light.

I agree that an "american version" of deathnote totally could have been adapted, because the premise of having a book that could kill anyone so long as you have the name and face in mind has potential.

What it should have been a prequel story that follows Ryuk testing the deathnote on people before to allow them creative freedom to do what they want.
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>>86736227
Light was evil as shit. He painted himself as some sort of well-intentioned god out to bring justice to the world but by the end it should be obvious that he was just a crazy magalomaniac with a healthy dose of autism.
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>>86737090
I believe that almost every franchise goes to shit eventually. Be it books, movies or anime. They just don't know when the fuck to leave it alone. Alien: Covenant comes to mind.
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>>86736173
Kill yourself for thinking entry level is any kind of criticism. Bet you felt clever writing that trash of a post.
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>>86736665
You need to know the person's full first and last name as well as what they look like, explicitly to prevent shit like that.
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>>86737153
Mello somehow knew that Takada's capture will eventually lead to Kira's downfall. I'm currently reading someone's post explaining this.
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>>86737012
I ended up rooting for him because I ended up disliking that little shit Near even more.
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>>86736869
write down that the person you are going to kill will drop off the money at a specific place and keep it safe with a passcode or a key that they mail to you or something, then a few days later, kill them however
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Who's dick did Adam Wingard suck? Godzilla vs Kong, Death Note, Blair Witch, and I saw the Devil?

WHAT THE FUCK??
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>>86737163
yeah I re-read the manga not too long ago and I think the anime handled the second half much better
>>86737184
in cases like this it's usually the editors that urge an author to continue if the series is still popular, luckily they did have the sense to end it on an appropriate note
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>>86737078
I mean if you orchestrate the deaths to be "suicide by hanging", "accidental weapon discharge", "accidental fall", "massive stroke", then they wouldn't necessarily have reason to believe they're being targeted by a human agent. If anything all their leaders dying random arbitrary deaths might make these superstitious people doubt that God is really on their side. From the trailer screencap though it looks like Light is just having them blow up for some reason.
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>>86737335
It's not too late to change the director.
Honestly Monsterverse movies are ok but the studio actually has a plan and they've already done some worldbuilding around the universe. They should at least choose competent directors.
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>>86735961
Delete this.
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>>86737382
They believe in shit like the west or Israel having mind control drugs and shit so I wouldn't put it past them at all. If you want to convince them it's an act of allah you gotta have lightning strike them but the note can't do that.
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>>86737304
You can't force someone to do something that they wouldn't do normally that isn't directly connected to their death.
You could pull it off but you'd need to really game the shit out of the death note.
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The only reason why Light beat L was because L had no chance of knowing about the fake rules.
I really like the premise of the story. A killer who leaves no traces vs. detective who's never been seen by anyone. Japs have imagination.
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>>86737515
>You can't force someone to do something that they wouldn't do normally that isn't directly connected to their death
I don't remember that rule. I only remember that they couldn't do shit that was physically impossible for them like hanging themselves in Australia at 12pm when it's 11pm and they are in the USA.
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>>86733823
No, it is the characterization. Light isn't some fucking high school reject with the potential for a Columbine, he's a Chad who is super smart and arrogant.

The trailers and sneak peaks I saw completely changed Light's character. Same with Ryuk, who had the most potential in this whole mess.

He doesn't sound bored, he doesn't sound chill or amused. In the trailers he sounded malicious and crafty.

Where's the
>I found 132 cameras, now give me apples

I don't care that L is black. What I do care is that they picked the wrong black actor. He is way too aggressive and not autistic enough, and L never covered his face.

If they butcher the characters so much in just trailers, the show is likely full of shit writing and characterization

Death Note is only an 8/10 anime at the beginning and slides down to a 6/10 after a certain character dies. But the Netflix adaptation is apparently lower than 2/5

Also, sounds like no good music either. What a shame.
https://youtu.be/LgBYtop_rVo
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What the fuck does entry level even means? What deep level anime/series is like Death Note?
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>>86737751
It means you can still watch it and consider yourself a normal human being.
Death Note is the first step in the world of autistic animuh. You begin there and eventually end up watching two magical lolis making up.
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>>86737749
>death note is 8/10
Then what is the 10/10 anime good weeb sir.
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>>86737751
Monster I guess is reasonably close.
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>>86737962
Cross Ange of course.
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>>86737751
I'm guessing this is.
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Live-action adaptations were a mistake.
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>>86737751
>What the fuck does entry level even means?
No knowledge of Japanese culture or other anime titles is needed. It's easy for anyone to pick up and enjoy and requires no further investment after watching.
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>>86737751
"Deep" anime isn't Death Note.

I don't know what you mean by deep. Do you mean with symbolism and writing depth that has more meaning? Or do you mean on the surface-level "not mainstream anime" type deep?

Evangelion could be considered to have deep meaning and some symbolism but is almost as mainstream as Cowboy Bebop. Mushi-shi can be somewhat surface level on a first viewing (there's magical bugs and MC travels to help different villages with their magic bug problems is the gist of every episode), but isn't really mainstream Adult Swim material
>>86737962
Depends on your personal preference for 10/10. Some 9/10 I like are Mushi-shi, Space Dandy, Natsume's Book of Friends, Nichijou, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Kino's Journey...
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>>86735765
Boy, this argument never gets old.
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>>86733113
i rather watch the 2 hours of this alleged eye excrement than validate any self hating liberal reviewer
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>>86735109
Because everything needs to be a message these days. We can't have fun things, they need to shout a message strong and clear.
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>>86738232
Oh and Berserk, though just the manga and the 1997 "anime" (more like an elevated slide show)

What if they adapted Berserk? That is an anime with completely Western mythology and characters. How bad would it get fucked up? So bad that even CLANG adaptation will look like a masterpiece?
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>>86738549
>fat nigger raping white boy
They will never adapt it
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anyways ryuk is a guy in a suit and they mocap'd his face
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>>86738549
You think that western media will ever adapt something whose first arc's climax is the co-MC raping the female lead until she turns retarded?
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>>86738722
>first arc's
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>>86738597
How much flak from normies do you think the featured rape cuck scene would get?
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>>86733666
Say it with me anon, adapt-at-ion.
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>>86737653
>The conditions for death will not be realized unless it is physically possible for that human or it is reasonably assumed to be carried out by that human.
I think there's also something said about all humans having the capacity for suicide, which is why you can make them kill themselves, but its weird about what you can influence them to do that isn't a direct cause of their death.
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>>86738722
Never thought they'd readily show so much incest sex in a first episode of a show and end up with 2 MCs that are Aunt and Nephew falling in love. The world is full of surprises
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>>86733666
Brain-dead tier argument. You're remaking an anime into a live-action movie. You're already strapping on for a considerable amount of changes.
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>>86738867
>or it is reasonably assumed to be carried out by that human
I didn't remember that and honestly it's vague as shit. People can do some pretty unexepected shit or have hidden sides so I don't how the DN judges what is "reasonable" for someone to do.
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>>86736491
>some unknown young actress
>actress
heh.
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>>86734148
Are you... actually fucking retarded?
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>>86733666
If you're going to use the name, characters and almost everything else but make changes for the sake of being different, don't adapt it. If you want to mimic those things in your own way under a different title, go for it.
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>>86733995
Your racism is showing.
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>>86738669
They honestly wouldn't need a CGI Ryuk, just put Defoe on set. He already looks beastly enough as it is.
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>>86739020
>brianlet can't cope with the fact that his favorite anime is for kids
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>>86733113
Still gonna watch it just for Willem Dafoe.
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>they didn't cast Zac Efron as Light
What a shame, that would have made the series funny at least.
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>>86739152
A noble endeavor.
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>>86739066
except ryuk is 7-8 feet tall my guy
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At least the girl is a cute.
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>>86737335
The Guest was kino fuck off.
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>>86734792
Of course not, where were you for the past 10 years?
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>Light quickly scribbles the names of people who have personally done him wrong
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>>86733783
s
I only know of this because i was in a hotel and the fat(big surprise) next door fella sat outside his room playing it on his laptop. He had earphones but they were not plugged in,he wanted to spread his autism. It was an ok story but if that's the best anime I'm glad I had sex and therefore don't like anime.
Also,fuck everyone that likes anime,you just want to belong.
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>>86739310
The fuck, no he isn't.
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>>86734254
>Take existing property and modify it for no reason

Why not just make something new then?

I'll never understand idiots like you. You're the reason brand recognition is king, because you'll see literally anything as long as it has a name slapped onto it you recognize.

If it can't be properly adapted, anime should be used for INSPIRATION for plotlines, not directly copied. Randomly inserting new ideas into what was a formed storyline causes all manner of fuck up or just embarrassing results like DragonBall: High School Edition

Neck yourself.
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>>86739407
Pretty damn big
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>>86739464
Ah, I stand corrected. I always imagine him sitting on Light's bed, not looking much taller than a normal person. Although he is hovering in your pic.
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>>86739384

>It was an ok story but if that's the best anime I'm glad I had sex

What the fuck
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>>86739521
He's tall compared to Jap manlets, so he's at most 6'4'' or something.
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>>86739129
It's so odd though - Death Note appeared in some magazine for 8 year olds, but it's a very dark story that deals with more mature themes.
Maybe Japan is different, but you wouldn't get anything like that in the West, in a kid's magazine anyway.
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>>86737751
deathnote isn't deep, it's babbys first edge
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>>86735536
You are a braindead idiot.
Same goes for every other moron who makes fancastings based on looks instead of acting ability.
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>>86739661
HunterxHunter is also serialized in Shonen Jump when it gets less and less childish as the series progresses.
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>>86739661
shonen jump isn't for kids tho
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>>86739877
O
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>>86738958
>and honestly it's vague as shit.
That's the death note rules in general. One of the rules is that even the shinigami don't know all the conditions of the rules. Light surprises ryuk a few times.
In general though the death note limits collateral damage that would harm innocents (people not named in the death note). So if you wrote the cause of death as "suicide bombing in busy mall" or "suicide by cop after mass shooting" the person would just die of a heart attack.
The only time I remember him having people do something out of character with the note was when he made a couple of guys write suicide notes that had a "code" for L to discover.
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>>86739661
>>86739877
Japanese manga in general can be pretty dark and still appear in a magazine targeted to children.
As long as there is no nudity or sex I'm pretty sure they can get away with a lot of shit, specially because they know most of the readers of this magazine for children are actually adults.
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>>86736088
I liked You're Next and 2/3rds of The Guest, but it seems if Wingard is not making le ironic self aware slasher movies, he is just shit.
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Wouldn't this have been perfect?
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>>86739521
He's gangly as fuck and is always hunched over so it's a little deceptive. Plus he's usually floating over light's shoulder.
But look at Rem, who is isually just standing around and she's pretty fucking tall.
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>>86739985
Would Elliot be Light and Tyrell as L? Is Mr Robot the Ryuk to Elliot's Light?
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>>86733113
>shitty western adaptations of Japanese source material

You've put the cart before the horse. Death Note was always shitty. Take off your 12-year-old-retard goggles.
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>>86738232
>Kino's Journey
That is indeed a 10/10.
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>>86736173
If the producers have to dumb down, and fuck up even entry level shit, imagine what they would do with something more complex.

Death Note could work. There isn't much japanese weirdness and the concepts are pretty understandable even for amerifats, it's easy mode and they still managed to make it terrible.
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Make a Monster tv show instead.

Monster is vastly superior.
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>>86739875
wrong

neo is a shitty actor but he makes the perfect keanu reeves
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>>86734461
It's not like there lack of original scripts for studios to use. The point of adaptation is that audience is more attracted to movies based of stuff they like or at least heard about.
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>>86739877
>>86739946
MY

hiatus incoming
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>>86740203
It would work really well on most any network too, AMC, HBO, FX etc
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>>86740104
I'd say Elliot as L, because eyeballs, and Tyrell already plays a disguised sociopath.
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>>86737174
I don't know, I always liked Near and Mello. The fact that Light becomes full on villainous and gets beaten by those who he views as beneath him is satisfying.
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>>86740311
Really? Miura just went on hiatus for Berserk til winter, I thought Togashi came back?

Did another Dragon Quest release?
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>>86738232
>Natsume
Good choice.
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anime itself wasnt amazing
japanese are good are premise and utter failures at follow-through/ execution of ideas

thats why ghost in the shell was terrible walking sim and suits talking for half the movie , when the opening involved an invisible cybord lady gunning down a bunch of people and an epic invisible on the water scene

they are just terrible people who arent creative in the slightest
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>>86734537
If a nigger actually gets up his ass and creates something it's mind blowing to him how the world doesn't fall to his feet. He can't contemplate how another series could win over his hard work because all they know is that when they don't go around killing and thieving (like any other normal human) they are awarded for that. From affirmative action to pity awards, you name it. they feel entitled, and it's our fault for putting that shit in their heads.
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>>86739661
>but it's a very dark story that deals with more mature themes
Oh my god.
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>>86740203
LOL, please no. They will make John a Ganbanging black guy or something. Maybe if it was not made by netflix it could be good. I feel only AMC and HBO could do it justice.
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>>86740438
Are you talking about the Hollywood movie?

Standalone Complex followed through pretty well I thought. Same with the 1995 movie and Innocence
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>>86740438
Stop watching entry level anime.
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>>86740529
What? It's true.
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>>86740570
>people die, that means it's mature
Millions of weeaboos have gone through this phase. It's your job to come out of it.
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>>86740640
People dying is not the main draw of Death Note.
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>>86740737
>People dying is not the main draw of Death Note.
Read your statement again.
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>>86740800
The titular item drives the plot but isn't why people watch it. Take away all the cat-and-mouse battle between L and Light and no one would've cared for it (as we can plainly see from all the people that didn't like the second half as much).
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>>86740529
Yes, capital punishment and insanity are things commonly found in kid programmes.
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>>86740889
>but isn't why people watch it
It's quite literally the main draw for everybody who watches it. Don't kid yourself, people like L and Light but everyone watched it based on "notebook that kills people".
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>>86740917
Did you watch Barney until you were 16 or something? Plenty of kids show deal with these so-called """"mature"""" themes, they're just subtle about it.
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>>86740640
>>86740800
It's the only thing that drew masses of normies to Game of Thrones, and they all think it's mature as fuck.
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>>86740917
Watch better kids programmes.
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>>86741093
>and they all think it's mature as fuck
You take the normie opinion very seriously.
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>>86740962
Not him but I didn't. If someone tells me "watch this anime there is a note book that kills people" I would have gone "okay..." and never watch it.

Death Note was presented to me like this by my friends "You know how our country is a joke and criminals are released within a week? Well in this anime the protagonist finds a book that can kill people, and he uses it to enable justice on the world. It's pretty fun", and so, I watched it because I hated criminals and wanted to kill them, I still do honestly.

Anyway, in retrospective. Death Note was a shit anime and I had shit taste back then, but then again I was a literal senior finishing High school so still a kid.

Bye losers!
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>>86741199
>one (1) person didn't watch it based on the premise
Fuck me, there's go my argument.
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>>86741155
What I'm saying is, noone would say GoT is a kids show and Death Note is more or less on the same level of maturity. Both appeal to horny/edgy 13 year old boys.
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>>86737494
>lightning strike them but the note can't do that

It can.
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except unlike GitS Death Note was already a pile of shit
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>>86741288
>noone would say GoT is a kids show
Some would say it's immature in the handling of its themes. You don't have to be a "kids show" to mishandle "mature" topics.

>and Death Note is more or less on the same level of maturity
Not even a little. There's a reason the average person doesn't watch anime.
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weebs are the fucking worst with any popular anime

they're the same ones that say dbz should have ended after frieza(based solely off a widespread myth) and that dragon bore is the best, they just want to let you know that they are """real anime fans"""""""
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>>86733113
>Change details to make live action anime adaptation ore relevant to a western audience.
>Change everything that made the original unique and strange enough to make it intriguing.
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Why doesn't Hollywood just make original stories set in the anime's universe rather than making butchered adaptations? This movie would be better as a totally new story about a Death Note dropped in America.
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>>86741398
They can't take anything animated seriously, that's the reason. At least if we are talking about the good shows, not something about a guy wanting to fuck his 13 yo sister.
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>>86741681
weeaboos would rage even more at that
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>>86741711
>They can't take anything animated seriously
There's a reason for it. For all it's mature ideas, themes and writings, anime suffers from having to pander to literal children and perverts, dragging the entire medium to the shithole.

Even then, most people miss out on Death Note's true appeal ("serious comedy") in favor of "dude good vs evil lmao". Reading Bakuman should be a necessity in order to move on.
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>>86741921
You could say the same about modern mainstream cinema, just replace perverts with gender studies experts.

You still are probably allowed more freedom to make something creative in the manga industry.
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>>86741921
>suffers from pandering to children and perverts
What anime are you talking about? None of my favorites cater to loli or fujoshits or children.

Though 9/10 of anime are exactly as you describe
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>>86734967
fuck erlich but also fuck this movie
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>>86733113
>Is this the end of shitty Western adaptations of Japanese source material?

People have been asking that since fucking forever.
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>>86736173
Hahaaha

What do you consider "non-entry level"?

You hate Death Note because it became popular, you probably think Berserk or even Evangelion is somehow not entry level because it never caught on with normies.
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>>86742436
>What do you consider "non-entry level"?
Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 2wei
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>>86734465
>>86734537
Knew literally nothing about the guy before this, but I'm really starting to like him. He gives absolute zero fucks
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>>86742436
>What do you consider "non-entry level"?

Urotsukidoji
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>>86742436
>You hate Death Note because it became popular
>became popular
Maybe in 2008? Death Note isn't really relevant right now.
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>>86741921
>thinking anime panders to children

How to spot someone who doesn't know anything about anime.
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>>86737962
Serial Experiments Lain.
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>>86742492
>>86742536
And how exactly are they better than most entry-level anime? Most anime is trash, and people who watch a shitton of it tend not to develop a more nuanced taste, for some reason it appears to be quite the opposite. They somehow devolve into fanatics who are horribly self-aware and defensive in regards to their hobby so when some regular guy goes 'Higurashi was actually pretty good' they either agree or sperg out because it's apparently inferior to all the niche garbage they've been watching.
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>>86742626
Jesus christ it's been 10 years since I was 15 watching Death Note.

Why doesn't time stop for me to catch up ;_;
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>>86742637
>thinking anime doesn't pander to children
How to spot someone who refuses to admit he's watching a stunted medium.
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>>86742727
You've never seen 'Urotsukidoji' I take it.
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>>86742768
No you idiot, children don't have hundreds of dollars to spend on merch, the backbone of the anime market. Do you think children are the ones buying the blu-ray discs?
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>>86742727
I use "entry-level" to describe animu that even the normiest normie can watch and enjoy.
Meanwhile shit like Prisma Illya requires you to be conditioned to Japan's weid shit in order to not get super triggered by it, much more to enjoy it.
The dudes acting like smug elitists are retards. There are great shows but most of them are cancer and the only reason I unironically enjoy them is because I grew used to that level of cancer.
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>>86742880
>children don't have hundreds of dollars to spend on merch
>what are parents
Never mind that I included perverts right next to children, because if there's one thing that furry community teaches us, is that perverts have way too much money lying round.
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>>86742829
wow looks like at this fanservice shit and tell me this is a quality product
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>>86742995
It's literal porn.
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>>86742921
There aren't enough children with rich parents willing to buy anime merchandise to sustain the market, and those perverts you talk about have actual jobs are probably far more productive than you are. I bet the most you've ever spent on a franchise was ten bucks for a movie ticket.
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>>86743037
>l-leave perverts alone...
My bad, I thought you had a legit argument and you weren't just triggered by my words.

Anime is super mature and awesome. Kawaii~
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>>86742436
There aren't that many hidden gems in anime as opposed to film. All the shit you never heard of is usually terrible.
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>>86742704
>David Lynch, but bad

It makes me appreciate him even more.
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Because Death Note was never good
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>>86733113
This is what happens when you hire the writer of Fan4stic
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>>86743153
Those "perverts" have well-paying jobs and do more for society than your basement-dwelling ass, and looking at anime today I'd say modern Hollywood is more degenerate.
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>>86742995
>>86743034
It is actually a massive epic odyssey. It was much better than expected. However, it was the grandfather to like all tentacle porn in hentai today. That's not fanservice, fyi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj_ihEuFwRs
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>>86743379
I apologize for insulting your loli porn, anon.
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>>86733113
anime is a shitty medium and most of their good stories wouldnt translate well to either film or television
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>>86733113
No James Cameron will release his Battle Angel adaptation in the future and it will kickstart the anime live action western adaptation boom.
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>>86743671
Right after the 7 Avatar sequels that are all shot simultaneously.
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>>86742492
>Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 2wei
Muh nigga
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>>86739059
Nigger.
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It's fucking Wingard man. He's a hack.

You're Next was his Sixth Sense.
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>>86733823
Cant believe this hasnt been posted yet.
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>>86737749
>I don't care that L is black. What I do care is that they picked the wrong black actor.

This. And they always do this shit too, as if having a black actor is enough. Same thing with Fantastic Four.
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>>86734967
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>>86733165

You seriously think that professional reviewers have even watched the anime?
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>>86739661
>Death Note is a shonen
>Umaru is a seinen

I don't really know how this japanese thing works.
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>>86733113
The trailer looked like total dogshit, so I'm not surprised. Almost want to get Netflix again to see just how bad it is.
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>>86733113
Japan and the creators approved this shit. Maybe they intentionally made it bomb?
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>>86746572
YOU WAN BROCKBUSTERU?
FUCK YOU! HAVE BOX BOMB!
NUKE YOUR BUDGET AMERICAN PIGGU!
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>>86746572
Nigga even gits creator will approve any project as long as it gets him money. Now that series has 1000 reboots and games
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>>86746525
One is for children and the other is for manchildren.
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>>86740438
>they are just terrible people who arent creative in the slightest
I love the way everything people believe about anime is always the exact opposite of reality.
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>>86741921
Anime doesn't pander, most of it is not made for children (and even the children's anime is much more sophisticated and mature than children's animation in America), and it's a indefensible double standard to call anime fans perverts for looking at sexual content while completely excusing any and all sexual content in Western media.

People don't take animation seriously because that's how they've been conditioned by American animation. Though in recent times there have also been a lot of memes against anime which have further added to the problem.

>>86742768
See above, and also it is less stunted than live action television.

>>86746843
Shounen goes up to adult readers/viewers, and manchildren are an invention used to avoid having to admit that adults watch anime.
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>>86733113
Wow, literally anyone could see that coming

>completely change source material
>most fans of Death Note don't care anymore
>Chad and Stacy haven't heard of Death Note so they watch GoT some more
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>>86733113
I've never read Death Note or watched the anime and I have no intention of watching this Netflix shit. But anyone who complains about the characters not being Asian should be written off completely.
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>>86740438
>japanese are good are premise and utter failures at follow-through/ execution of ideas
Couldn't agree more.
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>>86733113
Anime is garbage. Westerners don't want that Eastern garbage dominating here either.
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>>86733113
>watch trailer
>Light is now has the personality of a Columbine shooter
>Misa is now important to Light because reason
>Ryuk is now completely evil and manipulative
>L is out in public for some reason
>explosions

Gee I can't imagine why people don't like it
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>>86747134
The problem isn't that they aren't Asian, but that they are White.
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>>86734148
he took inspiration from Crime & Punishment you retard
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>>86747151
They also do much more varied, creative, complex and risky stories that have a higher potential to go south.

>>86747178
Then everything is garbage, and if Americans are so intent on not wanting anime there then it's strange how even Amazon and Netflix are so eager to get into the anime game.
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>>86733113
Well I'm on /tv/ so I guess that means it's good and I need to watch it.
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>>86733823

Light literally uses Misa like she is a fucking wrench, nothing more. He doesn't blab about his book. She gets her own, the ONLY reason he even talks to her, he always wastes her life for his ploys.

You're fucking retarded, they totally changed the characters 100%.
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>>86747259
>Then everything is garbage, and if Americans are so intent on not wanting anime there then it's strange how even Amazon and Netflix are so eager to get into the anime game.

This is just something you're saying.
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>>86747178
There are some actual good anime series, but people like you are pretty retarded about this kind of stuff so it's pointless to even bother saying it.
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>>86747441
It's reality. Netflix is investing in anime and Amazon has its own anime streaming service. There are also numerous other streaming services. Nearly every show that airs in Japan is simulcast now.
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>>86747077
>manchildren are an invention used to avoid having to admit that adults watch anime

Because it's normal for functional adult males to watch a show made for little girls.
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>>86747459
Kill yourself, retarded weebo.
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>>86747504
Thanks for proving my point friend
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>>86747499
If only weeaboos realized how much they resemble bronies.
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>>86747504
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>>86747259
>if Americans are so intent on not wanting anime there then it's strange how even Amazon and Netflix are so eager to get into the anime game.
Amazon has literally nothing on catalog and Netflix is bleeding content fast. They need something to pump what they can offer. If they can trick goyim to watch anime-shit instead of capeshit, that would be great for them, specially if they have no idea about crunchyroll.
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>>86737981
Overrated shit.
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>>86747499
It is not that unusual in Japan, and shows for little girls make up a tiny minority of what anime fans watch.

Adults also watch Disney movies in the US.

>>86747592
Amazon has Anime Strike and Netflix has been investing in anime and is continuing to do so.
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>>86733113
They made light's goal selfish since the beginning
Instead of Light starting out with wanting to kill criminals to those who get in his way to anyone he feels is unjust to just inflate his god complex
But no, we got this
>Muh bullies
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>>86747712
>Adults also watch Disney movies in the US.
And my little pony:

>>86747532
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>>86747825
Weeaboos don't exist and have nothing to do with what I am talking about.
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>>86734967
>ISIS leader
>guys with Fake names, most of the time face covered

I bet they loved so much original material they totally ignore it
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>>86735661

Trump is evil and ISIS and is just misunderstood.

You should really get on with the times, grandpa.
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>>86734967
DRUMPVFEFE
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>>86742727
Well, Higurashi's anime is shit desu.
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>>86743389
Overfiend and Demon Womb were really good, but the story doesn't continue with the other movies right?
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