How do dragons work?

>>86648588
They don't. They're not real.

>>86648663
Interesting.

But what is their tax rate?

>>86648588
They don't. They're like dogs. They just do things. Sometimes for humans.

Bees shouldn't be able to fly.

>>86648663
/thread

>>86648588
that's not a dragon that's a hypogriff

>>86648663
They could work though

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are dragons just flying dinosaurs?how come they exist in mythology of so many different cultures and civs

>>86648588
In Unions, with health and dental plans.
I've got their labour taxation policy here if you want details.

>>86648588
dragons aren't dogs with gliders on their back, 4 limbs only

>>86648762
The force needed to let them fly would be insane.

>>86648762
Not on Earth. There is not nor ever been a hexapod vertebrate. They'd have to be genetically bred or you'd have to settle for a Wyvern

>>86648842
what is that large flyer?
also i love giraffes they are fucking retarded, i love how they fight

>>86648762

Nope. The largest flying animals that have ever existed had a lot of adaptations to save weight, like hollow bones and loss of teeth.

Dragons would be toothless and you could break their bones with a punch

I couldn't stand this series
after reading about women who could fend for themselves this victorian age attitudes about how women shouldn't go on expeditions/put themselves in danger just cause they're women
also not enough mythical creatures

>>86648910
>what is that large flyer?

A dinosaur

>>86648910
Quetzalcoatlus

>>86648856
>4 limbs only
then it's a wyvern not a dragon

>>86648779
I guess humans have an innate fear of predators that share those characteristics? (pythons, birds of prey and big cats)

>>86648663
Black people are """real""". Why don't they work?

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>>86648663
Lying is a sin.

>>86648588
This belongs in /an/ or /his/ or /sci/
Why are you posting this on wrong board

Magic.

>>86649065
???

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>>86649063

>>86648779
they don't. Every culture has 'leviathans' and myths of giant creature because there are giant creatures and we have good imaginations. Fuelled by cave painting of mammoths and finds of giant bones. Sea monsters come from washed up whale corpses and rare animals like narwhals. Once we started meeting other cultures we shared words and popularised the cool/dangerous sounding monsters. Now all people know is dragons unicorns and krakens. Multiculturalism once again destroying diversity.

>>86648588
as to OP's question. Dragons might exist in the future with genetic engineering. Dragons wouldnt be four legged though as there are no non insect six limbed animals blueprints to work off. Front arms similar to bat wings would be most likely to work. Hollow bones with high iron content for strength. A bladder near the throat which stores a highly volatile soup of organic flammable materials. Similar to GoT, they would probably be thin and long to get the right strength/weight ratio.

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>>86649063

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>>86648588
How would one fly?

I could imagine a small one to, but even then that would be difficult. Note that most vertebrates that have evolved flight are decent at best on land (birds, bats, pterosaurs), having small legs and whatnot (except for like roadrunners and stuff). Also since they cannot produce much thrust, they tend to have very long wingspans, which must increase with mass, whereas bugs and hummingbirds have help from vortices and being smaller can flap much more quickly. So I'd imagine a realistic dragon would be the size of a large bird, have to have a disproportionately large wings compared to fictional ones. It would probably run around and climb trees well, and only use flight as a last resort to escape predators or something maybe.

I'm not sure about fire breathing though

>>86649086
Holy shit we live in boring days. Imagine them flying around. I can't even desu.

>>86649273
I'd be lame as fuck, we don't even care about airplanes.

>>86649086
look at that homo run. what a coward

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The trouble is that you need really, really big, muscular wings in order to lift a lot of mass.
The biggest flying thing thats ever existed had at least a 50ft wing span, and that was for lifting its mostly hollow bones.
Actual working dragon wings would be a sight to see all by themselves.

>>86649063
underrated post

>>86649086
>homomanlet

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>>86649265
>How would one fly?
Magic
It's a dragon

>>86649098
From a fake documentary on Animal Planet

>>86648779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grLJyqIM8E

WYVERN

>>86649086
>Virgin sapien
>Chadalcoatlus

>>86649494
Wyvern's could work. They might end up being no bigger than a komodo dragon though.

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Wurms make more sense.

>>86649971
the actual fuck is that shit

>>86649340
Dragonbone has the magical property of being stronger than steel but lighter than wood.

>mfw I choose to believe dragons used to exist simply to make the world a more interesting place
fuck you guys. how did the dragon meme spread to every ancient culture if they wasn't real

>>86650302
Bird bones can be pretty strong and light actually.

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Would avatar's "dragons" work in real life? I realize they would need bigger wings

>>86648588
they don't

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>dragons don't exis-
checkmate fuckers
explain this shit

>>86650365
For their size.

Square-cube law anon, look it up.

>>86650371
If flying squirrels can exist then so can your faggot dragons

>>86650328
Because our ancestors lived with pretty big lizards, birds and snakes.

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>>86648588
Read the book your OP image is from, it's a good series that covers all breeds and types, from the POV of a Victorian times widow woman that fancies herself a scientist and hates her son.

>>86650328
same way most mythological creatures did, people imagined what if these scary as fuck animals were fuses together to form a bigger scarier animal

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>>86650328
>mfw no face

>>86650371
flygin squirrels just glide though, I wanna see a giant winged reptile take off on its own

>>86648588
hydrogen stomachs

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big boy coming through. I like dragons being higher intelligent ancient beings instead of dumb animals. Also being so big that their wings are useless.

>>86650328
>>86650502
same way ALL dinosaurs did, people just imagined what if these bones and rocks we dug up were fused together to form a bigger scarier animal

>>86650625

fffpppff

>>86650802
So you saying... dinosaurs aren't real?

>>86649086
why were most animals back then so big? did the big extinctions selected the ones that could survive on less food?

>>86650858
Dinosaur bones were created by S*tan to deceive and manipulate us.

Why is Hollywood and the video game industry stuck on Wyvern instead of 4 legged dragons?

>>86651038
they look cooler and Skyrim made them popular.

>>86650976
Wrong, dinosaurs are just elephant bones written by the jews to make us believe in atheism
have you ever seen a real SKELETAL of a dinosaur? no it's all fake shit the real shit is hidden in secret vaults and only (((authorized))) (((scientists))) are allowed to examine such bones

>>86651087

I think OP looks way cooler than Wyvern.

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So which ones could work?

>>86648588
>dragon
m8 thats a wyvern

>>86648933
So that's why Viserion went down like a little bitch.

>>86650328

I don't understand the point of this. The world is interesting enough. T-rexs literally existed, to harken back to big lizards making the world a cool place.

Is physics just too hard for you?

>>86650929
Higher concentrations of oxygen allow organisms to flourish and they were allowed to grow bigger. Less oxygen now means they had to evolve to handle it

>>86651173
Cockatrice

>>86651221
Prove t-rexes exist
They aren't real

>>86651146
it doesn't matter what you think, it matters what other people think.

>>86651038
Dragons are intelligent, Wyverns are mindless beasts

>>86651250
Prove you're real and not just a figmant of my imagination.

Well first they'd need to be hexapods, I'm not sure that exists in either Mammalia or Reptilia. Mammalian wings are modified forelimbs that allow for true flight. No reptiles have this modification. Draco lizards have extendable flaps of skin stretched over modified ribs, but that only allows for gliding not true flight. Perhaps modified ribs gets around the need for hexapodal life.
Body would have to be small to reduce mass, if the wings are modified ribs then the musculature would also need to be drastically modified, probably the internal and external intercostal muscles. Modifying those for flight would possibly lead to problems relating to respiration.
Fire breathing is out, though they could use an adaption from the bombadier beetle. No fire but a lot of heat via chemical reaction.
Wyverns are more likely as seen in the pterosaurs, where reptiles had modified forelimbs to enable true flight.
It might be possible for dragons to fly, but they'd be pretty small.

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>>86648588
More importantly how the fuck do centaurs work?

>>86651038
Because people nowadays style themselves as intellectuals and believe the meme of Wyverns being the most anatomically correct. Despite the entire discussion taking place over mythical beasts.

>>86649086
How odd. I took my son to the royal gorge dinosaur museum yesterday and saw the bones of one of these.

>>86649065

I remember convincing some friends of mine that this was real

>>86650371

Pandora has lower gravity so it might not.

Don't quote me on this

>>86648779
I've heard the theory that the reason we have innate fears like arachnophpia or fears of reptiles/snakes are because of evolutionary "dead code" in our DNA from hundreds of millions of years ago when we were small mammals. Evolution is good at giving you traits to reproduce, but it's not very good at getting rid of traits you don't need anymore unless they're detrimental to reproducing. In this case a fear of very small animals that aren't actually a threat to you is funny, but not that detrimental, so it keeps propagating.

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Condors are pretty big light and tough heres one attacking a bull

>>86648887
They'd need an enormous breastbone and musculature. Of course, if they are magical creatures, they could just have magic wings and none of that is needed.

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>>86652372
>hundreds of millions of years ago when we were small mammals
>fear of very small animals that aren't actually a threat to you
lmao stop browsing buzzfeed

>>86648588
In most cases they require visas, being foreigners.

>>86650211
8 legs and a stinger, gee that's tough

>>86648663
I bet you're real fun at parties

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>>86650976
>Dinosaur bones were created by S*tan to deceive and manipulate us.
YOU CAN'T PROVE A THING

>>86649265
>I'm not sure about fire breathing though


We have animals that produce electricity like electric eels. We have luminescence. We have spiders who create string that is really strong. All they would need is an organic highly combustible liquid. Setting it a light would be easy.

>>86651038
Because mah realism.

>>86648933
I'm pretty sure I've seen dragon designs with beaks.

They'd have to look a lot more like pterodactyles to be able to fly though.

>>86652994
I hope by we you are not implying what I think you are implying.

You mean Reddit, right? Then go back there if you just can't stop thinking about your secret club.

Bye!

>>86652372
In most environments, insects, spiders and snakes can still be a serious threat, big mammal or not, so fearing them isn't really useless. Think black widow, vipers, hornets... they're still pretty common.

>>86648663
>They're not real.
Prove it.

>>86651498
Whoever drew this needs their pens taken away from them.

> 2 ribcages
> secondary hearts/brains for an animal smaller than a giraffe which requires neither
> no baculum
> heart not located centrally where stomach is indicated
> sternum stubbornly maintains primate proportions
> arms larger than forelegs

whatever nerds

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>>86649086
So, who was the true King of the Sky?

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>>86648933
yeah i'd be a little more concerned about the fact that they can BREATHE FUCKING FIRE

how are you going to punch one of these spicy boys in the bones if you're roasted to a god damn crisp?

>>86651384
>hexapods, I'm not sure that exists in either Mammalia or Reptilia
Breeders were able to successfully create 6-legged chickens (Aves, not Reptilia) only to discover regular chickens refused to mate with them. Imagine that.

They eat gems and gold to produce hydrogen in their stomach sack which lifts them in the air like a Zeppline then eat flint to spark a burst of flame to release gas to descend while using their tails and wings to steer

>>86648974
No, it's a pterosaur

More oxygen = bigger animals.
That's why the eskimos are so tiny.

dragons were created by Satan, they don't need to follow your silly earth logic

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*blocks your path*

>>86648762
dragons with 4 limbs and wings dont make sense, because one pair of limbs wouldve become the wings

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>>86653740
Man.

>>86651228
>>86650929

That's a fucking myth, there were eras in the past with similar concentration of oxygen as today and big animal didn't just die

The fact is nobody knows for sure why the average size was bigger in the past.

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>>86654057
WRONG

>>86652423
No it's strapped to a bull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_02tp61DxQI
What a retarded tradition

>>86653937
> live in Flagstaff at 7000 ft
> Navajo and Hopi barely get above 5'6"

I half believe it.

>>86651038
Because wyverns look cooler and more realistic, considering there have never been any, 6 limbed vertebrae on planet earth.

>>86654085
yeah I'm going with
>big extinctions selected the ones that could survive on less food

>>86650929
>why were most animals back then so big?
Guinea pigs were the size of a Subaru Forester until their food supply diminished and so did they, the fossil record confirms it. Their cousins the capybaras lived where the food supply remained constant and so did their size.

>>86653786
you have a source on that bucko?

>>86653937
>>86654355
That's actually because shorter limbs allow less loss of heat. There really is no positive pressure for height in arctic climates.

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>>86654607
Can't you believe your own eyes

>>86650796
Dark Souls?

>>86654156
>Not Starscream
Just end it senpai

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>>86654791
You know what else is big

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>>86654851
>Screamcuck

>>86650929

higher levels of o2 and co2

>>86654766
Science truly has gone too far

>>86654876
>>>/d/

>>86654085
what if the reason is that competition encouraged larger size as being more beneficial? higher oxygen concentrations definitely contributed to insects being fucking huge.

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>>86648588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0j0Bjy6hFc

All you need to know.

>>86653836
You saw "A Flight of Dragons" too, huh?

>>86652372
It's still wise to avoid buzzing things which might sting you, and spiders which might be poisonous and bite you.

Some of the fear may be in the DNA, but it's not useless at all.

>>86654605
Humanity should be growing in average size then, given tremendous food supplies and that manlets are less sexually desir...hehe he heh heh

>>86655598
damn just missed it
>>86655555

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>>86648663
This.

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>>86655401
this is pretty gud

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>>86654057
This

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>>86649063

>>86654085
There are experiments with roachs where the one living in a richer o2 enviroment actually grows bigger than the others

>>86652372
>evolution
>>>/reddit/

>>86655598
Average human height has increased though.
Better nutrition has allowed people to get taller than in any other period of history.

>>86657756
>>>/trash/

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>>86649063

>>86657903
Yes this is true, but it should affect the DNA, assuming women get slightly hotter for big dudes than small ones, which they do, and therefore should have marginally more babies from the bigger dudes, slowly increasing the average size via DNA, in the context of plenty of food.

In other words, giants would be coming in a few thousand years, excepting that humanity will never get there before destruction or some kind of virtualization transcendence, and there are people alive today who will live to see DNA programmable for new babies, making evolutionary changes moot.

>>86658188
It's explained better using external factors of the enviroment
It clearly has a bigger impact

>>86651498
>tfw you have a horse bottom half but keep the tiny human nuts and sawseege...

>>86648588
I imagine something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0j0Bjy6hFc

>>86654448
Its fucking fantasy you dolt

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Daily reminder this fucker has only been extinct for 600 years

>>86648663
What is a Kamodo dragon ?

>>86659538
Used to kill humans too.

>>86655401
neat

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>>86659538
Are these the biggest that we have left, flying bird wise?

>>86657664

But there wasn't more oxygen in the past, except in the Carboniferous

>>86659747
>tfw no condor bro to visit you

>>86650211
>>86652848
It looks like a spider mimicking a scorpion. Definitely not a scorpion. It's either some sort of rare spider or it's a fake.

>>86659995

It's a spider mimicking a twig

>>86659995
read it as rape spider

>>86648759
::breaths heavily:: Thatchh not ah Dragonshh, Thatchh a Hypogrishhh. ::spittle everywhere::

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I don't know how they work but they sure are attractive.

>>86660442
XD

>>86650929
Modern animals are coming out of a fairly recent series of major climate change events that wiped out or diminished most of the species that grew to huge sizes. Larger animals generally develop after a very long period of stability in an ecosystem where the food supply isn't disrupted by any large scale cataclysms, which allows species to become more specialized and therefore larger over time.

>>86654057
Mere prosthetics.

>>86655401
>calcium mixed with stomach acid makes hydrogen

>>86651517
You speak like that's a bad thing.
Dragons and wyverns were never the same thing, but their differences were much greater than limbs number.
What happens nowadays is that designers and artists realized that a 6 limbed dragon would be IMPOSSIBLE not only because animals came from tetrapods, but also because there would not be enough space (yes, space) to fit a whole new pair of pectoralis and dorsalis muscles to make the wings work alongside the frontal limbs without making the creature look like a slob swollen mutant with a who patch of muscles protruding out of their thoracic cage in the least aerodynamic way.
Six limbed dragons are not realistic and should be kept away from modern fantasy if you are seeking any sort of consistency with reality
> Dude, it's magic. I Ain't gotta explain shit
Then go ahead and add as many wings as you like in your imaginary beasts.