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>Daredevil beat Iron Fist in 1v1 combat
>a street trained blindfag defeated the greatest fighter in the world who was trained by the greatest masters

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If you don't follow the lore then you don't get my respect.

not even gonna mention Luke Cage's 1 minute long tirade about white privilege, fucking sjw garvage
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anon could you do me a favor and tell me which episodes focus on matt. i don't care about negro and feminazi story lines. thanks.
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>>86554402
All of the episodes are pretty well mixed character wise. There are bits of Matt all over.
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>>86554290
why the fuck are they fighting?
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>>86554290
desu Matt can sense every move before it happens so he has the edge
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>>86554448
which one heavily features matt characters from his story. honestly i cant stand anymore muh black peoples
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>>86554453
Because it's a comic book trope, like the Avengers remember, the good guys always fight before they come together to save the day.

the Hand wanted him, so the rest of the Defenders decided to keep him safe in that place despite his wishes, he tried to leave and DD kicked his ass
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>>86554290
waiting for Matt-only fanedit
couldn't care less about the rest of the literally whos
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>>86554448
HOLY SHIT MATT EXPLODES???
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>>86554483
DD has no super powers while Iron Fist does.

IF is supposed to be the best, trained in a fucking mythical other dimension monastery by prodigies. DD is street trained and he beat IF lel.

Don't get me wrong, I like both characters, nothing against DD, but Netflix fucked up here.
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>>86554522
i want this too desu. will this be out?
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>>86554541
KEK
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>>86554290
Daredevil has nuclear powered bat senses so it works
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The camerawork is so distracting.
>blurry over the shoulder shots - the show
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>>86554559
see this
>>86554584
it's like when you're playing Chess against the greatest Chessmaster in the world but you can see 5 moves before he makes them so you've got plenty of time to react
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>>86554584
No?
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>>86554290
Been reading comics for nearly 40 years. I would have been upset if IF beat DD. IF is well trained, yes, but not GOAT.

I look at it like an rpg. DD lvl 50 vs IF lvl 25
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>>86554290
In this continuity, the Stick is trained in the same martial arts from K'un-Lun that Iron Fist is. And the Stick has been training Daredevil far longer than the Iron Fist was trained.

So they fight in the same style only with Daredevil having over a decade's worth more training, WAY more real-world experience with fights, and a supernatural ability to hear muscle groups tightening to know which limbs are moving where in his enemy.

But the Iron Fist can make one hand punch really hard. So there's that.
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>>86554651
So that would make you the greatest chessmaster not the other guy.

IF is supposed to be the best in martial arts. No amount of bullshit can weasel out of that.
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>>86554290
>the greatest fighter in the world who was trained by the greatest masters

can anyone here actually see this danny rand taking on a dragon and winning? he gets rekt on a daily basis
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>>86554681
>DD better than IF

More like you have been reading for 4 weeks.

It's pure fan service, because the DD show has the most fans.
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>>86554687
>And the Stick has been training Daredevil far longer than the Iron Fist was trained.

Not true

>Daredevil having over a decade's worth more training,

Not true again

>WAY more real-world experience with fights,

Bullshit, IF has spent his entire life training and fighting.

>and a supernatural ability to hear muscle groups tightening

Not an argument.
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>>86554290
>Luke Cage's 1 minute long tirade about white privilege
what even is this shit man? im not even white but why dont they make a comic book show instead of stuffing it with this sjw trash
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>>86554727
Dude, even in the comics Iron Fist has always jobbed to Daredevil.
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>>86554768
It's one minute in an 8-episode series. Please stop complaining like a dirty-diaper crybaby.
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ALL THE DD FANBOYS IN THIS THREAD FUCK OFF AND BE OBJECTIVE

DANNY BEAT A FUCKING DRAGON
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>>86554768
Welcome to the crazy world of left wing sjw insanity where a minority of fat, low IQ degenerates command entertainment and politics
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>>86554559
You're a fool. DD is the only person other than Agent Coulson that has coolonium in his body, making them the 2 most powerful (and cool) characters.
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>Luke goes on a literal white privilege rant
Please tell me the entire series isn't like this.
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Any Kingpin cameo?
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>>86554855
>>86554768
whoops didn't see this post. I just want to know if the entire series is filled with this kind of shit.
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>>86554767
>Not true
Danny was missing for 15 years. Daredevil has been trained for 20+ years. Outside the dragon fight, Iron Fist's life was spent in no serious to the death fights whereas Daredevil was exposed to life or death brawls through Stick and Electra far longer, not even including his time as Daredevil vs both the Hand and Kingpin.

>super powers aren't an argument
lmao get out of here kid
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Matt is legit autistic
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>>86554855
>>86554893
It is not all that. There is at least one crappy sjw comment in each episode like a "I'm a strong independent womyn" moment by JJ or LC's white privilege rant, but it is not constant.
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I only watched Daredevil. Couldn't get through more than 2 episodes of Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, or Iron Fist.

Should I watch Defenders?
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>>86554924
>being blind is a superpower

idiot
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>>86554541
Actually, yes.
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>>86554290
That is a proper shit fight scene. Who does the choreography? Did they stop using the choreographers from Daredevil?
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>>86554984
it's pretty good senpai
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>>86554991
Supersensory perception is, you stupid nigger. You see him use it all the time, using peoples' heart rates and muscle tightening to read what they're doing.

Faggot Fist is shit compared to Daredevil. He loses in the comics, he loses in the show.
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>>86554801
go back to r/marvelstudios
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>>86554801
fat virgin detected, back to r_ddit cunt
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Type "Luke Cage white" in to twitter and you will see why there is a wave of white nationalism right now. These people created this shit with their anti-white bullshit. I'm not white btw, just noticing how dumb these SJW's are and what kind of shit they create.
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>>86554767
>>86554802
>muh dragon!
>muh glow fist!

IF fans need to fuck off, IF has always sucked ass and doesn't have nearly the impressive feats DD has. He fooled everyone into thinking a manlet twink could fight and you all bought it.
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>>86555040
>>86555084
1. Have sex.
2. Take a shower.
3. Go outside.
4. Hit the weights.
5. Gain height.
6. Get a clue.
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>>86554984
it is dogshit desu
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>>86555111
who the fuck finds this shit enjoyable to watch
nausea inducing
now watch the hallway fight and compare it
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Why insist on filming fight scenes from a side angel where we can clearly scene kicks and punches aren't actually landing?
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>>86555111
AAAHHHHHHH SAVE ME DAREDEVIL! HE'S GOT A KNIFE!!!
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>iron fist is the worst character with the worst show
>try to revolve plot of defenders around him
>it's shit
>bloggers actually trying to spin this as a good thing

really stimulates my spring beans.

>>86554984
no. all the worst qualities of those shows thrown in a blender without most of the good stuff.
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>>86555040
I don't even have a reddit account. I'm just a rational adult that doesn't get assmad about 1 minute that I don't agree with.

>>86555084
I could stand to lose about ten pounds, sure. But I'm 40 and married and certainly not a virgin.
I feel like a fat virgin who has never lived life like yourself would be much more likely to get utterly colon cleansed by a character's rant in a TV show.
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>>86555150
If you don't see the problem with all of this white privilege shit in the long term, you're a fucking idiot.
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>>86555150
7. wake up
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>>86555206
You idiot, that kick didn't land. DD missed IF with that kick. If Matt hit Danny square in the head with that kick he would have knocked him the fuck out. Are you sure your cognitive abilities are good enough to critique a fight scene?
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>>86555206
that's why IP MAN is the best, clear fights with no shaky cam
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What the fuck was Gao talking about when she said that Danny "chooses" to believe that K'un Lun was gone? We literally saw it destroyed, an additional witness saw it destroyed, and they never actually go back to the city once the gate is opened.

So, was it fucking destroyed, or not? Did anybody die, or not?
The fuck was that? It was completely dropped after she said it.
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>>86555111
This is like a parody, it's just disappointing
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>>86555267
I didn't say I don't see the problem with it. I'm only stating that I'm not going to let a historically dickish (and racist) character like Luke ruin the show for me. It's always been pretty clear that Luke doesn't care for white people. Also, just because he lectures Danny doesn't mean he's lecturing me, because I understand that it's a TV show not a person in my living room. Also, just because I hear something like this doesn't mean I'll take it as truth or believe it. Give at least some of the population more credit.
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>Guy with the clean up crew clearing bodies
>Clearly breaking at least 10 types of laws
>Rough him up for answers
>HE DINDU NUFFIN
>HE WAS JUST TRYING TO FEED HIS FAMILY
Pottery
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>>86554504
DD didn't really kick his ass, it was a stalemate

Iron Fist lost because he ended up fighting all 3

Now Luke getting knocked out by a kick from Elektra was way more retarded
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>>86554290
>MARVEL shit is shit
wow stop the /got/ general and pseudo-/got/ general presses, we got a hot scoop here
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>>86555320

I like the IP MAN movies but come on... it literally has a fight scene versus a bunch of japanese jobbers where he repeatedly punches a guy with weak ass punches and he leans back incrementally with each blow. It looked absolutely ridiculous.
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Which episode features the Punisher? That's pretty much the only cameo I want to witness.
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>>86555392
What are you, some kind of Nazi?
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>>86554290
Does Iron Fist have super strong kicks or something? Is there any particular reason why daredevil couldn't grab his leg and counter after a kick?
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>>86555404
I rolled my eyes at the part where he tried to talk about white privilege to Danny. The writers are really trying very hard to get me to hate Luke Cage.
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>>86555404
the saddest thing is that they dont see it themselves
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>>86555411
>now Luke getting knocked out by a kick from Elektra was way more retarded

Please tell me this isn't true
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>>86555404
This. You shouldn't be exempt from laws because your black.
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>>86555493
Anon, I...
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>>86555474
this was an actual thing in the show?
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Only one episode in but claiming my waifu. Who's your Defendersfu, /tv/?
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>>86555404
>THE KID IS SITTING IN JAIL BECAUSE OF YOU
He is sitting in jail because he broke the law. Jesus christ. What is wrong with this show.
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>>86555537
Yes. It is 100% cringe worthy. Especially because he calls Danny privilege and blames him for the fact that some kid is in jail. The same kid who willing cleans bodies for cash.
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>>86555313
He completely rocks his head to the side as if he was hit by the kick. But it could just be their shitty choreographed fighting that gives that impression. being shittedly edited doesn't help, like at the beginning he is throwing a knee that doesn't land and the next frame he is in a completely different position doing a different attack.
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>>86555627
>>86555576
isnt uneven application of the law the definition of privilege?
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Rate JJ's ass
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>>86555458

<==== (You)
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>>86555670
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>>86555392
I can tell you are new, you have to back
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>>86555672
Sure. But not in that context, kid got caught cleaning up dead bodies. Luke and Danny ran from the scene. Luke blames Danny for the kid getting arrested because Danny was preventing him from running away so he could get answers.
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>>86555674
it's cute
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>>86555742
cuck
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>>86555670
Do you hear a sound effect indicating the kick landed? That would really be the determining factor here.>>86555729
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Any noteworthy fight scenes like the DD hallway scenes?
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>>86555777
What?
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>>86555729
>lol he responds reasonably in complete sentences, he must be le plebbit newfag summer amirite guise?

I've been here forever, and I'll continue to be here as long as I like, you dipshit memespammer.
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>>86554290
Danny wasn't using his powers though, and when he did he beat everyone
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Is that John Hurt 4 seconds in?
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>>86555895
It's about skill not powers
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>>86555895
I didn't watch iron fist but what is the limit of his powers? Can't he just glow fist everyone all the time? Pretty sure the comic book one can.
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>>86555252
He called you a fat virgin and your response is no you're a fat virgin? If you really are 40 then you should be ashamed that his insult even caused you to respond and that your rebuttal was weak as fuck.
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>>86555915
the fuck nigger?
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>>86555951
You need to work on your reading comprehension, kiddo.
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>>86554290
I got 4 episodes in to the first season and I fucking hate how all these superhero TV shows have a CSI thing going on.
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>>86555930
Both were trained by highly skilled fighters, I agree Iron Fist should be a better fighter but it's not a one sided fight at all, especially with Daredevil's heightened senses
>>86555942
This Iron Fist hasn't mastered his chi yet, so there's a cool down time
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>>86555792
>Do you hear a sound effect indicating the kick landed?
Is there a sound? legitimately don't remember the sounds of this shitty fights. It could have been originally been a kick though, if they used the shot from the camera placed behind them and the way he rocks his head it would totally look like he landed or at the least was knicked on the face.
>That would really be the determining factor here.>>86555729
what?
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>>86555672
Danny wasn't caught, idiot. He would be in jail too if he were.
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Some nigger who spent most of his life living in the united states of freedomistan doing whatever he wanted calling an orphan boy who had to fight for his life everyday since he was like 5 with a grade school education living in a fucking monastery surrounded by people who hated him because of his skin color "priviliged"

fucking embarassing
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>>86556048
I was quoting that post to write another reply and didn't realize that my post to you wasn't auto-posted yet. I quoted >>86555729 by accident at the end of that post.

TL;DR I can't post properly, most likely because I'm a faggot or something.
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>>86556083
he wasnt disposing of fucking dead bodies for $$$
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Why is he so perfect, bros?
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>>86555952
No wait, Scott Glenn.
I don't know why these two merge into a single face in my mind.
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>>86556126
cops don't know that
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>>86556116
Confirmed for not knowing the characters. Cage spent his entire life getting fucked over by The Man so it isn't surprising he would grouse like this.
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>>86556134
>maybe he's right
>maybe everything I've accomplished in my life, no matter how hard it was, is due to my white skin
>I have earned nothing through hard work, only skin color
wtf I understand why white nationalists are mad now
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>>86556121
Apology not accepted.
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>>86556161
>Niggers think breaking the law is getting Fucked over by the Man

I like your style anon but that's a little on the nose.
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>>86555320
IP Man is shit and has shit fights m8
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>>86556116
want to see something cool? Go on twitter and search "luke cage white". Read all of the posts.
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>>86556203
Luke Cage and The Iron Fist should be about fighting the KKK and Danny having contemplating whether he should join them
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>>86556161
getting arrested for breaking the law is racist?
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>>86556230
Confirmed for not knowing the characters. Cage was more accurately fucked over by The Man with the help of a criminal who framed Cage for crimes he didn't commit. Not the same thing as committing crimes.
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>>86556161
That's the comics where he was a gangbanger. In the show Cage was a cop. He was The Man.
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>>86556242
Why the hell would I want to do that?
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>>86556161
>have a brother who's a gun runner and a gangster, most likely a murderer as well
>be a cop
>do nothing because muh blood (not even real brothers)
>get framed because your hood brother wants to bang your gf
>end up in a silly prison where apparently inmates can just disappear and nobody does anything
>break out unlawfully when you get superpowers
>instead of reporting the heinous crimes commited against you, you run from the po-po
>be mad when you still have to go back to prison

Yeah, "the Man" sure did lots to him.
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>>86554504
It was actually Stick trying to divide their team so that he could kill Danny.

Danny was right.
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>>86554290
It was a stalemate, the fight was pretty well done desu DDs super aggressive boxing/parkour fighting style vs Dannys kung fu
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>>86555493
Not Elektra, but Elektra as the reincarnated Black Sky. She seems to have some supernatural strength and resilience now. She flings people around like rag dolls the way Cage and Jessica do now.
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>>86556344
this is literally why the black community is so fucked right now. They can't take any responsibility for their actions. Any faggot who says otherwise is just hurting black people more than they're helping.
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>>86556442
Go back to pol you Fucking RACIST piece of SHIT. You don't get it do you? It's 2017 and Nazis get PUNCHES
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This scene was actually good.
wtf I love Netflix now
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Everyone talking shit about Luke Cage's rant must not have actually watched the show. Luke Cage does bitch about Danny being a literal billionaire white guy beating up poor black criminals... and then is literally proved wrong and that he didn't know what he was talking about in the next couple of scenes, and this gets pointed out to him and he concedes he was wrong.

Y'all falseflagging faggots need to calm the fuck down.
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>>86556507
There are no nazis.
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>>86556534
Everyone pissed at the white privilege scene probably rage quit the show before the scene was over. Doesn't surprise me.
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>>86556534
For some reason Netflix kikes hate Danny, he was literally right about everything and rest of Defenders admitted they fsiled him, but creators of the show give him whiniest lines.
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>>86556442
What lefties don't understand by blaming all failings of the black community on white people its actually racist as shit. What is a man if he can't even have his own failures? The black man got no successes and can't even keep his failures either. What is he then? Nothing. He's got no agency. No wonder all they do is do crimes and get pregnant. Dems fucked the black people.
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so... iron fist never wear his suit? why? also, did the actor who plays him developed an interest in fighting scenes ?
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>>86556668
Still. The fact that it's got a hundred posts this thread and people have obviously seen past it since later episodes are being discussed to know that Cage was immediately proved wrong are being fucking niggers themselves by pretending like that narrative never got challenged or debunked.

>two scenes later, Cage is there beating people up next to Fist admitting he was wrong
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>>86556734
No idea.

What makes you think he isn't?
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Yeah... this is where it jumped the shark for me
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>>86556734
No. Because while the Daredevil suit is kind of hokey, but sort of makes sense given the story build up of it being made from synthetic armor from the Kingpin's research... Iron Fist showing up in yellow spandex just because would've been a bit much.

And yeah, the actor has been doing some martial arts training for the role. Probably just learning to kick high and make it look convincing(ish) for the fight choreographer. Frankly, Charlie Cox put in a lot more effort prepping for Daredevil.
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>>86556747
wait, you mean people on /tv/ are persistently posting shitty meme comments just to get (You)s? I'm shocked.
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>>86556825
What, her killing Stick or her having super strength as the Black Sky?
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>>86556534
>he doesn't understand that /pol/ is pretty much tumblr these days
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>>86556918
>pretending it's /pol/ posting and not lefty falseflags
Get better at spotting bait.
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>>86556871
He had more time. Finn Jones had two weeks to prepare for Iron Fist snd Defenders being shot at the same time
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>>86556747
"it's complicated" is a glib line that doesn't directly challenge the exchange preceding it. the privilege line is fine in theory if the counterpoint was actually well written. like the entire show, it wasn't.
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>>86556871
Iron Fist doesn't wear yellow spandex, bruh. And I admit pic related's costume might not be super great on the show, but they could have given him some sort of similar mask or one of those Kill Bill Bruce Lee style jumpsuits.
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>>86554483
The nigga defeated a fuckking dragon
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>>86556911
I like that they gave her some super strength as Black Sky. Just coming back as regular Elektra wouldn't have meant shit. Elektra wasn't able to take Daredevil solo, and expecting her to take on the likes of him simultaneously with Luke Cage and Jessica Jones as this "perfect weapon", she really needed the strength upgrade.
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>>86554997
Wait till you see the one the defenders starts with, it's a new level of awful even for netflix capeshit
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>>86557012
But there was no *reason* given for it. Had they so much as said "lol her skin's harder now", it would have been much more acceptable in the narrative.
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>>86554768
same here and I am fucking black
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>>86556534
>he concedes he was wrong

literally when did this happen
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>>86554801
You have to go back.
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>>86557089
Her being resurrected as the perfect weapon wasn't "reason" enough for you? The fact that "Black Sky" was something multiple shows have been building up for years now?

If anything, I was disappointed that ALL it ended up being was Elektra + strength.
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What makes Black Sky so strong that the Hand will deplete their resources to acquire her? I mean this is Marvel right? Spidey could probably handle her already.
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>>86557100
The next time they see each other and Cage is beating the fuck out of poor henchmen too like he had just condemned Fist for and Fist calls him out on it. Cage gets all contrite and admits that it's complicated like Fist had said it was in the first place.
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>>86557147
>>86557170
Did they ever, in any of the Netflix MCU, mention why Elektra is called the Black Sky or why she's compatible as a vessel, or was it another loose end?
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>>86557170
this. they use the same shit to resurrect her that they used to live as long as they did.

those stupid faggots could have wreaked more havoc with their massive wealth than some skinny bitch who knows how to judo chop. and why do they want to destroy the world anyway? they said their aim was immortality and it sounds like they've had that for eons. they should have been chill as fuck until recently when they ran out of magic potion.

dumb show.
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>>86557249
Yeah, season 2 of Daredevil she was born with the potential to be Black Sky. Stick was supposed to kill her so the Hand couldn't turn her into the Black Sky but he thought he could use her and trained her himself.

So far, for being this legendary creature that's been feared for centuries, her ONLY power that she's displayed is some minor super strength. Not even Hulk level, or even Spiderman level. Just barely Luke Cage level.
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>>86556918
>Muh /pol/ bogeyman
No one even mentioned /pol/ here. Fucking rent freeeee
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>>86557170
What makes the Hand so much of a threat anyway?
Precisely.
Fucking nothing
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What exactly is the Black Sky?
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>knight gets her hand cut off, baddie dies. "Pulse beeps" start playing in the background in a technician's closet
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>>86557210
hmm I'll have to rewatch that but still
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>>86557319
I meant towards what exactly a Black Sky vessel is and what separates them from regular people. There was that boy in DD2 that was also a vessel before Stick kills him, but what exactly makes that boy and Elektra potential Black Skies?
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>>86557351
>What makes the Hand so much of a threat anyway?
Money? Power? Connections? Assassins? I mean sure this isn't some fucking super power but the Hand is pretty much a global mafia organization.
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>people hate Iron Fist
>hating the best Netflix Original Comedy
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>>86557440
>what exactly makes that boy and Elektra potential Black Skies?
Probably some mystical voodoo shit
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>>86557376
Elektra large Nachos woth cheese dip (they artificaly color it, that's why it was dark red)
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>>86557447
Eh, sure. The point is that threat is never really felt. The 5 people of the Hand aren't that great villains (I'm still pissed Weaver was basically wasted), and besides that one time in Daredevil season 2 where they stormed the hospital, they never appeared to be this looming threat that would end everyone and everything.
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>>86557440
Seems like they were just born that way.

>>86557491
XDDD her last name sounds like nachos LMAO XDDD
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>>86557585
They did a pretty good job in Iron Fist too. Remember how they would just appear in that guy's penthouse apartment? The whole massive ninja shadow network seemed to be a lot more downplayed in the Defenders.
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>>86557620
Did you miss the scene where they dip her?
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>>86557711
JUST LIKE YOU DIP NACHOS
FUG :DDD
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>>86557585
Probably because they depleted their resources acquiring a useless black skies and can't keep more ninjas on the payroll
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Why didn't they just call the avengers
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>>86557757
The only resource they depleted was their eternal life serum. That's what they meant by "resource". Otherwise they still have their global ninja network and infinity money.
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>>86557585
there is no hand, all you see is higher ups when the hand has always been a threat because of the volume of fucking disposable ninjas it throws at people and it was neat because they were actually ninjas and you could have hundreds of them being killed and it would be okay because they were already dead and would just turn into smoke when killed again.
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>https://911movies.co/tvshows/marvels-the-defenders/
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>>86557763
Because the Avengers destroy every city they fight in. New York, Sokovia, etc. The Defenders were trying to preserve the city.
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>>86557872
Then just Tony
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>>86558085
So that he could create a Black Sky Ultron AI?
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>>86557376
fighting skills and minor super strength/durability
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They made us watch Alexandra taking all those pills/eat and stare blankly and she doesn't do anything threatening till the end
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>>86558126
You're right, not Tony
What about Vision? He seems to have a lot of free time on his hands
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>>86558161
>start doing shit
>die
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>>86558161
I think they went too far in trying to make the villain someone you can empathize with, as someone who is afflicted with cancer and is doing what she's doing in fear of her looming death. But she's just not interesting because she has basically nothing beyond that, especially since she's new and we haven't seen her actual involvement.
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is it possible for LC to be on screen without culturally appropriate music? He's black, I get it.
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>>86558161
The Hand in general.
>badass African warlord with an army of soldiers, can fight evenly against Luke Cage
>gets captured and killed instantly
>badass hunter who lives for the thrill of battle and trained Nobu
>gets his ass kicked effortlessly all the time
>Bakotu
>is a faggot
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>>86557872
This actually is the most logical/hilarious reasoning for that.
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>>86555930
Without his powers he's just some guy with a ton of training, just like daredevil but without his predictive abilities and hypersensitivity
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>>86558181
Why not Spider-Twink? Would he have the greatest interest in saving the regular people of New York?
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I'm in love. No homo
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>>86555537
Yes, and it literally includes "privilege" and "white boy" as well as the just feeding the family excuse
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>>86558439
If they actually brought that up in the show it would've been great
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>>86558181
So that Vision could arrest all the Defenders for vigilantism and insist they need government oversight to do good like he did in Civil War?
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>>86558490
There were a couple scenes where his jerry curls were somewhat matted and I liked the look, but yeah, he looked a lot better in Defenders, mostly when he wasn't quivering, angry, or whining like he does. Looked real cute being chummy in the restaurant and palling around with LC.
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>>86554483
then why the fuck in his show does he get his ass kicked by a pissed off marine, some jap ninja he already beat once, some 100 year old chinese lady, and some tall, slow strong guy?

hell in the second episode of the first season he gets beaten by random thugs off-screen and left for dead in a dumpster
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>>86558482
I don't think any of the Defenders would willingly put a 15 year old boy, powers or not, in danger
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>>86558482
Spider Man would've respected the Hand's rights to destroy the world as underrepresented minorities. His progressive high school could never produce a man that would attack a group led by blacks, women, Asians and whatever brownskin thing the other guy was.
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>>86555164
You do realise that what you're posting never appeared in the movie like that, right?
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>>86555674
It's perfect
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>>86558561
>mostly when he wasn't quivering, angry, or whining like he does
Kek, yes. I hate how they made him a little whining bitch. Strangely enough, the same thing was done to Loras Tyrell.
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>>86558510
Why haven't they done that yet anyway?
I can see them overlooking Daredevil and Jessica but Luke?
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>>86558226
I kind of get that. She wanted to live so badly, but we only start to see her get desperate at the end. With all her lifetimes of knowledge, wanted to see her do something sinister.

>>86558410
I don't get Bakotu at all 2bh.
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>>86558509
>Defenders save the city
>Avengers & Thanos like a month later destroy the planet
Poor Daredevil can't catch a break.
>>
can Rosario just fuck off?
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>>86558613
The first season was all about his growth and honing his skills, how did you miss that?
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>>86558728
If only
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>>86558633
Huh. White woman, Chinese, Japanese, African and Mexican. The Hand had no CIS white male leaders while the Defenders had two. Fuck this neonazi wet dream of whites men beating women and minorities. Only in drumpfs America could Nazi shit like this get made.
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>>86554651
>it's like when you're playing Chess against the greatest Chessmaster in the world but you can see 5 moves before he makes them so you've got plenty of time to react
t. doesn't know how to play chess or how Grandmasters play
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ALL MY BABIES IS GONE!

i'll be honest, i cracked up
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>>86558829
Matt MURdock
Matt MURDERMINORITIESdock

Shit it all adds up.....
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>>86558941
Danny RAND
Danny BRANDALLNIGGERS

whoa...
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>>86559001
Luke CAGE
Luke BELONGSINACAGE

W-what?!
>>
Alcoholism isn't a funny character trait fucking assholes, it destroys families
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>>86559047
Jessica jONEs
Jessica jONEBATHROOMFORWHITESs

Shit...
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>>86555252
>rational adult
>posting on 4chan
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>>86554290

>ignoring the part where he knocked them all down with a single blow

why does /tv/ have to make shit up just to hate something. it's an opinion, you don't have to "prove" it. Just say you hate it and move on.
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Did they ever explain why Madame Gao's so freakishly strong?
>>
Why does dragon bone give immortality?

What are Elektra's motivations? What does she even fucking want?

How does Daredevil hear a beeping timer that's presumably somewhere on the higher floors of the building while he's 30 stories beneath ground?

HOW THE FUCK do they escape from police custody and blow up a giant fucking sky scraper in the middle of NYC and not face any consequences? "NYPD didn't file any reports" - why wouldn't they though?

Mediocre show with a shit overarching plot and the finale sucked ass.
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>>86559221
>superpowers

It's about raw fighting skill you illiterate mouth-breather
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>Boy this Electra chick is fucking awful but now that I've finished Daredevil season 2 at least I'll never have to see her again.
>mfw
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>>86554290
After how hard Iron Fist flopped he's probably going to be jobbing a lot and killed off in season 2. What a rotten way to die.
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>>86559410
It isn't tho, Matt is constantly using his powers
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>MCU movies always try to explain their magic as being no magic at all, from Thors "You call it magic, we technology" to sorcerers being able to control energy through training instead of demons and devils like in the comics
>TV shows: Nah fuck that, here's Ghost Rider, he's from hell. Also, dragons.
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>>86559524
Because it's not super power like JJ or LC, it's a SKILL <--- pay attention to that word. He just hears very well.

How dumb are you?
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>>86556534
I'm watching right now and currently in episode 4
All of this could've been avoided if both characters just acted like adults and talked instead of going into instant rage mode just because heroes always have to fight each other.
Also, the way it's set up the viewers pretty much all know what a horrible crine the kid committed, and cage just protects him no matter what crime despite catching him in a fucking abc suit
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Can someone explain to me what Black Sky is exactly? And how does it connect to that kid from one of the other shows that they also called Black sky?
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>>86556734
In the iron fist show no one watched there was some footage shown of a world war 2 iron fist in the comic suit.
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>>86556747
i'm in ep 4 now, so far no one aknowledged him as wrong or challenged that claim in any direct way so i'm not sure what you're talking about
you can indirectly infer that he's talking bullshut but you knew that from the start
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>hold up, are you saying we're some kind of suicide squad?
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>>86559709
How is superhearing not a power?
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>>86559762
A ritual to create a super-duper killing machine out of a specific person (compatibility of some sort required) by drenching them in a liquid made from dragon bones after their death. After they resurrect they are supposed to be an empty vessel without memories that is superb at martial arts, has super strength, super durability, super healing and is loyal to a fault.
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>>86559900
It's not SUPER hearing, cunt. It's a skill he developed to hear better. Anyone can do it.
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>>86559913
It sounded like the Black Sky refers to both the vessel as well as the essence embodying that vessel, like it's a persona or mixture of past personas or something. At least, that was my takeaway from one of Weaver's dialogues with Elektra.
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>>86559954
>It sounded like the Black Sky refers to both the vessel as well as the essence embodying that vessel, like it's a persona or mixture of past personas or something.

I didn't get that desu, but FULL DISCLOSURE I was shitposting on /tv/ while watching it on the monitor, so you might have caught something I had missed.
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>>86559952
That's not true, no. Did you watch Daredevil? Do you know anything about the character?
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>>86559952
He literally heard the bomb beeper from 30 floors underground. That's superhearing you absolute fucking cretin
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>>86560015
The character in THE SHOW has no super powers you absolute nerd.

>>86560035
Imbecile, don;t ever respond to me again, you don't have the mental faculty to understand what I am saying.
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>>86560127
>Anyone can hear a bomb timer beep from 30 floors below ground

That's what you are saying. Kill yourself and take your whore mother with you
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>>86560127
In case you're not trolling and really don't know, here read up
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Daredevil#Powers_and_Abilities
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I think what >>86560127 is trying to say is that Matthew trained for these powers and therefore they aren't superpowers which a) makes no sense and there are numerable example in the MCU that disprove this and b) is not true since Matthew gained his powers by getting splashed with radioactive splooge in his face
>>
there are a lot of nice ass shots. Props to the guys who decided to go this direction. Every couple scenes we get ass ass ass ass.
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>>86560522
lol you noticed it as well? I thought it was my ass-fetish distorting reality..
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Why do the guys with guns always shoot Luke?
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>>86560567
Something about trying to maintain the black man dies first trope.

But more seriously, it's the same reason Wolverine always manages to get torched or ripped in half or punched through sixteen buildings. They both can take it, so they're subject it because no one else can take it.
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>>86554487
Dude, if you're so eager to see Charlie Cox cock, just go watch Boardwalk Empire.
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>>86560567
Because he is bullet proof are you even paying attention?
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>>86555392
An hero plebitor
>>
>>86555150
Nice reply faggot, did your husband did it for you?
>>
Does immortality work different on women? Gao and Alexandra are both old as fuck but the men look like they're in their forties
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>>86560627
>>86560687
That's what I mean, the goons should know by now that Luke is bulletproof but they always shoot him instead of the other three not bulletproof guys
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>all characters have identical power levels and all fair fights end in stalemates
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>>86559894
Goddamn give them their costumes, superhero movies and tv shows have fucked this up time and time again
GIVE THEM THEIR FUCKING COSTUME
It especially looks fucking dumb that DD is the only one in costume, like he's the only one who tried, I wouldn't be in a team unless everyone had a cool costume
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>Show tries to make me believe that Matt died
>when Daredevil season 3 has been confirmed since 2016
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>>86560832
Well, women are known to age like milk. Immortality or not.
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>>86560986
But.. none of the characters have identical power levels?
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>>86560127
HE WAS HIT WITH MAGIC ACID YOU FOOLS
>HE WAS HIT WITH MAGIC ACID YOU FOOLS
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>>86561044
>we will never see Krysten Ritter in this outfit
its a GODDAMN SHAME
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Jesus christ that BUDGET in the last episode
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>>86561523
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>>86559709
WOLVERINE DOESNT HAVE A SUPER POWER HE JUST REGENERATES REAL FAST
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>>86554559
>DD is street trained
he is trained by Stick, who was trained by the same people as IF and has been fighting the war every day of his life
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>>86555493
not just Elektra, the fingers of the hand had no problem throwing him around, even though only Madame Gao showed some sort of telekinetic power
>>
>villain spills out his evil plan
>jj knocks him out in the middle of that for talking too much
>>
>>86554290
>>86554768
Can someone give me a quick rundown on what happened in Defenders? I only care about the daredevil/possible frank castle developments.

I could not care less about all the luke cage/danny/jessica shit.
>>
>>86555370
it's probably moved like the island in Lost

we didn't see it destroyed, we saw a massive hole where it used to be
>>
>>86555442
he's not in it
>>
>>86556583
nazi here, i respectfully disagree
>>
>>86561781
master -> IF

masters -> stick -> DD

Geee I wonder who got better training?
>>
>>86561636
remindes me of the actual civil war comics
apparently people thinking his claws are powers is a common mistake
>>
>>86556280
the cage in the netflix shows is different, anon
>>
>>86556534
>>86556918
why are you fags lying, that doesn't happen at all

Luke says some vague "its complicated" shit and it's never referred to again
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>Final battle where the Defenders are all together
>woogie boogie music starts playing
>it stops when Elektra puts a rope around Luke Cage's neck
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>>86554290
>Luke Cage's 1 minute long tirade about white privilege

I refuse to believe this
>>
>>86557089
>>86557012
remember that Harold Meachum became stronger after he got resurrected

the only thing I'm wondering is how Harold came back in Iron Fist when he was dumped in a swamp
>>
>>86558697
The Accords didn't outlaw being a powered person, sorry, person of power.
>>
>>86562570
Not a full minute long, just about 3 sentences, but it's definitely there, yes
>>
>>86562570
Literally, like, 20s and less than a handful of statements by Luke to Danny.
>>
>>86556871
>>86556991
they tease a variant of his suit at the end where he wears a green tracksuit with yellow stripes

they'll probably give him a suit in Iron Fist season 2
>>
>>86555674
I noticed that they keep that in shot a lot throughout the show
>>
>>86559682
>what is doctor strange
>>
>>86561987
Frank Castle is not even mentioned
Electra is resurrected and is now the Black Sky but that doesn't really matter
Then she kills the Hands boss and now she's the boss, also she kills Stick
Then they kill the rest of the Hand and Matt dies in the process but BIG SURPRISE he's actually alive the end.
>>
>>86561987
>Daredevil and Elektra get back together in last episode and supposedly die.
>Elektra kills stick.
>Foggy supports Matt being Daredevil finally.
>No Kingpin/Punisher cameo, however Punisher trailer after last episode credits appears.
>>
>>86562354
They basically got the same training. It boils down to who is innately better. One has one deadly attack. The other has senses that make his defense and offense improved.
>>
>>86557585
>The 5 people of the Hand aren't that great villains (I'm still pissed Weaver was basically wasted)

THIS

Madame Gao is the only one that's actually strong, Bakuto got rekt by Colleen Wing, Alexandra was already dying and the other two just did martial arts or something

The Hand was a fucking let down
>>
>>86562699
Jesus, what a shitshow. thx.
>>
>>86557763
why didnt spiderman have an appearance in the entire show when he's supposed to be going around helping people in the city

why didnt he find out anything about what was going on
>>
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>>86562570
Here
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>>86559709
if you watched the shows, you'd know the chemical that gave JJ her powers got splashed in DDs eyes
>>
>>86562953
Note this is only part of it
>>
>>86562953
>white boy

can't believe he actually said it

that's the stuff you see on /tv/
>>
>>86562973
not the same chemical lol
>>
Man, this sure is bland.
>>
In all honesty why are the movies and TV shows so disconnected?
I'm not stupid, I'm not expecting Captain America to show up and save the day in Jessica Jones or whatever but would it have killed them to have Spiderman, THE new york superhero, reference Daredevil or Luke Cage in the smallest way?
Kids in school just happen to be talking about which of the avengers they want to fml but not a single random civilian wearing a Luke cage bullet hoodie or fucking anything?
>>
>>86554767
Oh yeah, and also Iron Fist is a SJW faggot twink.
>>
>>86555674
flat as a board
>>
>>86563053
it's stupid, but if Spiderman showed up the show would only have been one episode long
>>
>>86562953
Conveniently not showing the part where he explains what he means by that (Danny walking around punching people instead of using his infinite money to help the community) or the part where Danny explains to Luke that money doesn't make you who you are and both agree to.disagree
But hey I guess those parts don't work that good at baiting (You)s
>>
>>86554687
How is he so cute, bros?
>>
>>86563210
Conveniently missing the "white boy" part

Nice try shill
>>
>>86563188
Not really, desu Luke Cage would still be more useful than him.
>>
irl active street fighters barely even fight compared to recreational martial artists.

>yeah i punched a guy last friday
>oh ive been punching guys for 4 hours every week
>>
>>86554847
>coolonium
>tfw actually searched this up
>>
>>86563277
luke cage might be unbreakable, he's incredibly incompetent

i mean he's the strongest of the defenders and he's also the only one that never fought a super powered human and still got his ass kicked on his own show
>>
>>86555089
>Type "Luke Cage white" in to twitter and you will see why there is a wave of white nationalism right now
So a show triggers you so hard you become a white nationalist?
>>
What the fuck was that last part with Luke and Jess? Are they trying to fuck?
>>
>>86563321
>martial artists
>actual fighting

you're not one of those people that thinks kung fu is useful in an actual fight, are you?
>>
>>86554290

>iron fist is an impulsive retard who left K'un-Lun before they could fully train him
>daredevil can sense what people are trying to do before they fully carry it out and can tear through more mooks than iron fist can even with the glowy hand

Iron Fist has a much higher potential than Murdock but at the moment he's nowhere near it. Of course Daredevil is going to fuck his shit up.
>>
>>86563393
>Are they trying to fuck?
They have before.
>>
>>86563393
jess wants his man meat and luke wants to fuck her too, but he's with claire

canonnically they're supposed to be a couple
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>>86563177
>flat
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When did you realize she was actually cute?
>>
>>86563468
never she is hideous
>>
>>86563445
Please post more Krysten
>>
>all 4 characters specialize in punching things
>deliberately engage them using martial arts, literally the one thing that they are notably good at
Why don't the Hand just use like, pepper spray or something?
>>
>>86563536
can you imagine Daredevil taking a full cloud of pepperspray to the face
he'd go fucking insane

>>86563445
>>86555674
is it weird that I thought JJ was unattractive in her own show but in Defenders I thought she was cute
>>
>>86563400
We don't all live in america where people get sued for touching each other.
>>
Someone post the screenshot of the dragon, it was cool.
>>
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>>86563445
F L A T
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>>86563728
she needs to clean up her fucking room
>>
>>86563728
Do you think any of her costars have seen her nudes?
That must be pretty awkward
>>
>>86554997

DD is the only show where they have proper fight choreography and allocate the training time to use it.

IF was rushed as fuck and they had to train Finn up from the ground. Jessica Henwick has a lot more training and experience so she can do a lot more but obviously they aren't going to have the sidekick overshadow the hero in their own show so she doesn't get to do shit either.
>>
MIGRATE

>>86563955

MIGRATE

>>86563955

MIGRATE

>>86563955
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>>86554290
sorry for poor english from cis.

just like real life lmao. even i untrained sack of shit can do that. we were playing football on a field with grass (you know special fields for football?) and some guys wanted to play there too and escalated a fight. and i knocked out one person. and later i learned he was kickboxing champion of eurasia. gg
>>
>>86554290
Should I watch Luke Cage first before watching Defenders? Seen the other ones except this one.
>>
>>86564197
Might as well.
>>
>ALL MAH BABIES IS GAWN
I laughed, and I don't feel bad.
>>
>>86554487

Just watch it and stop being a /poltard
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