Sicario ,Prisoners , No country for old Men, the Departed I NEED

>>86548877
You just want a specific moral lesson.

The dollar trilogy

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>>86548877
Green Room

Hell or High Water
Wind River
Hopefully Soldado will be kino too

>>86548988
And Blue Ruin for sure

>>86548944
the generic maintain the status quo moral lesson i dont want i want to explore the other side of humanity the sides they try to keep from us cause they think if we are exposed to it will will become serial killers I NEED SHIT THAT EXPOSE ALL OF HUMANITY not just this fairy tail bullshit

the counselor
fargo (movie and series)

>>86549047
>anything that isn't nihilism is a fairy tale
again, you just want the one moral message

Animal Kingdom (2010)

>>86549690
this isnt that depressing nihilism

hollywood needs to explore things outside the status quo

>>86549690
not him but the moral lessons of sicario, prisoners, no country for old men, and the departed are all vastly different. only a brainlet would broadly generalize them all into "dude nihilism lmao"

>>86549047
But isn't that basically what Sicario was about?

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>>86549811
Sicario peeks atthe under belly of maintaining the status quo another writer or director would of made it into something like this

what i dont want is propaganda

>>86549974
>would of
have

>>86549974
Ah I see what you're saying. Have you seen Traffic?

>>86549041
>Hopefully Soldado will be kino too
It probably won't be, considering it has a different director.

its funny to think that movies like No Country for old men woudnt even be possible today with the cuurrent political climate of United States of Israel

>>86550265
What do you mean?

>>86550293
portraying beaners in any negative light post-Trump

>>86550265
Fuck off retard.

>>86548877
"fedora-core" is what you're looking for my friend

>>86548877
Watch nocturnal animals, pretty good. Specially the book part.

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>>86549793
>nocturnal animals
>>86549690

>>86549690
>>86549793
Both of you are wrong about what nihilism is, but the one that said that all those movies are nihilist is the idiot.

>>86548877
incendies

>>86550321
What does that have to do with Israel?

>>86550498
when i said this i ment the big lebowski>>86550473

>>86550537
Nit him but he didn't say it had anything to do with Israel, he just named USA Unuted States of Israel, so USI.


That being said, the ''beaners'' portrayed badly in NCOM where from cartels, so they would have gotten away with it. That dude is an idiot.

>>86550661
On top of that, wasn't No Country set in the 80s?

>>86549041
Wind River just opened nationwide
>>86550058
Still the same writer though

>>86549974
This is actually a good movie and not propaganda

>>86548877
Nightcrawler is the best movie of the decade.
And Place Beyond The Pines is really simple, but good.

>>86550847
Eh... Nightcrawler is more of a satire and not really grounded in reality like the other movies mentioned itt.

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would you do this to a 10 year old to get your child back

>>86550909
Nah
But I would do that to Paul Dano for nothing

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>>86549594
>the counselor

>HOLA

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>>86550886
>Nightcrawler is more of a satire and not really grounded in reality

>>86550058
Have you watched Suburra by this new director? It's on Netflix. Not the best mafia movie ever but it is well-made

>>86551024
The things he gets away with and the footage they air on the news in the movie are all outlandish. It's not the least bit realistic.

>>86548877
sicario is hollywood moral pushing that women can be cops

>>86548877
>Sicario ,Prisoners , No country for old Men,

you want Deakins

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005683/

>>86551165
good one. enjoy your (you)

>>86551287
truth hurts

>>86551165
I don't know in america, but in every other part of the world there are a lot of women cops. Are you living in 1920 or what?

>>86551165
She was an FBI agent, not a police officer.

>>86551165
Wut? She was dominated by males throughout the movie, she epitomized incompentence. Opposite of pushing women can be cops agenda.

>>86551401
I don't care what effeminate eurogays have to say, their LARPing vaginas in uniform ARE NOT cops and have zero authority.

>>86551165
it shows you that she cant handle the pressure tho.

>>86551401
kill yourself

Children of Men.

>>86551447
>actually replying

>>86551561
Just clarifying.

>>86551512
Why are they not cops and why do they have zero authority? Seems to me a woman can shoot you just as well as any man.

>>86551540
Well her character was repeatedly told to stay out of the shit she was getting into and she didn't listen. She voluntarily put herself in dangerous situations.

>>86551512
I'm not european, friend.

>>86551512
Nah man, my genes will pass. Yours are the ones that will probably end with you. You don't even need to kill yourself, you shouldn't.

>>86551559
Great movie with great OST.

>>86551287
>>86551401
>>86551447
>>86551506
>>86551540
A realistic portrayal of a woman in that first scene would be to jump up on a stool and scream like the stupid emotional bitch she is

>>86550321
Go back to pol faggot

>>86551870
T.virgin that never leave his basement

This will never stop being funny

>>86548877
>No Country for Old Men
>not preachy
Did you even saw it?

>>86551086
You're wrong.

>>86552269
ah yes the virgin basement meme. very good one i love it haha! no refutation of my argument though..very telling!

>>86551086
>I was born and raised in a bubble.

>>86552283

What message do you imagine NCFOM was "preaching"?

>>86549690
>heh, if I act smug and only repeat myself that'll prove me right

>>86551086
>outlandish

But far from impossible. Nothing that happens in that movie is fantastical and it's based on a real story, so...

>>86552810
The film ends with the sheriff, after confronting the absurd, finding hope in the image of his father waiting for him in the distance with a bonfire so they can pass the long cold night. What do you think that symbolizes? The film obviously has a kierkegaardian message. You'd have to be retarded to miss it.

>>86553135

What a stupid piece of shit you are. The movie ends with the sheriff realizing that there is no deep meaning to anything that happens, and that there never has been. Shit just happens.

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>>86548877
>putting no country for old men in the same place as prisoners and the departed
sicario is slightly more forgiveable but jesus christ. only good thing about prisoners was the hugh jackman storyline

to answer your question, fargo movie and fargo series. also a serious man and burn after reading

Did Sicario force the prisoner to suck his dick?

Crank and its sequel

>>86553428

Has there ever been a movie protagonist that is more like a player-character from an rpg than Anton Chiughr?

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>>86553561
funny you should say that because it worked flawlessly

>>86553294
Have you even fucking read another Cormac Mccarthy novel? He does the same Kierkegaard vs nihilism thing over and over. Tobin vs the Judge in Blood Meridian. The sheriff vs Chigurh in NCFOM. Black vs White in the Sunset Limited. The father and the kid vs the world itself in The Road. How fucking stupid you have to be to think Mccarthy is a nihilist?
Fuck, if anything the few changes the Coen brothers made make the film even more explicitly anti-nihilist than the novel.

>>86553500
No, he tickled him until he couldn't take it anymore.

>>86553601

Who said anything about nihilism you wretched sack of idiocy and aids? The movie doesn't have any deep meaning, and it tells you so directly. If you think this means it's "nihilistic" then you're as stupid and ignorant as you are physically repellant.

>>86549793
>>86549974
stop saying "status quo" so much, you don't know how to use it in a sentence

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>>86549041
>Hell or High Water
I relate to this movie on far too many levels.

>Calvary
>Four Lions
>Hamlet (1990)
>Hunger
>Macbeth (2015)
>Place Beyond The Pines
>Slow West
>Trespass Against Us
They're not really similar to Dennis Venezuela or the aforementioned Hell or High Water, but they evidently have no agenda and are just about filmmaking.

>>86553594

I mean who puts a silencer on a shotgun? That's some Player Character looking thru the equipment book and thinking "huh, I wonder if..."

And don't even get me started on the compressed air weapon, that's a player abusing poorly-worded rulings if ever I saw it.

>>86553658
That's literally what it means

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Wind River.

>>86553658
Are you trolling?

Wind River

>>86553709
>>86553739
>being this much of a semi-literate baboon

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Stop acting like faggots and actually post recommendations like OP wanted. I like those kind of movies as well. Leviathan(2014) and Eastern Promises seem to fit into description.

The Hurt Locker is pretty good. It's not accurate but there's no real "message", it's just about one insane man's journey into hell and how after spending so much time there he's incapable of feeling anything elsewhere. Pretty great ending that manages to be other happy and incredibly sad, everyone lives but even the one guy happy about his situation is just too nuts to understand how he's just committing a form of suicide.

Generation Kill is pretty good too, the marines aren't really heroic and are just trying to stay alive. It's about the most accurate representation of active duty marines I've seen, they just sit around talking about masturbating all day and barely even comprehend why they're there and don't even know what they're fighting for or why.

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>>86553775

>>86552990
>and it's based on a real story

lol

>>86553860
>the limited mind dismisses that which it cannot comprehend

>>86553561
Chigurh isn't the protagonist, but yes. Hanzee Dent and Lorne Malvo from Fargo are very similar. Hanzee is just a jaded murderer and Lorne is a master troll.

>>86553852
>there's no real "message"
>it's just about one insane man's journey into hell and how after spending so much time there he's incapable of feeling anything elsewhere.
That's the message right there anon. War is a drug. It says as much in a quote at the beginning of the movie.

>>86553912

It's adapted from the life of Ted Turner.

>>86553681
Slow West is so kino, haven't seen it mentioned on here much other than to make fun of the beta guy/Chad fassbender angle

>>86553917
>Chigurh isn't the protagonist

Sure he is. Anton is the protagonist, Llewelyn is the antagonist, and the sheriff is the chorus. This is film-making 101.

>>86553933
No it isn't.

>>86553922
I guess but he never really learns that. He's so insane by the end he doesn't come full circle or anything. He was the same person at the start that he is at the finish.

>>86553970

Go back to bed Ted.

>>86553922

That's the narrative not the message. By your """standards""", literally every movie has a message.

>>86553981
The message is for the audience, not the character.

>>86553981
>I guess but he never really learns that.
He says that there's really only one thing he loves when talking to his infant son. He understands completely that he's just an adrenaline junkie.

>>86552779
I was born and raised in Los Angeles. Nightcrawler is blatant satire.

>>86550535
Kino in its purest form

>>86554017
>"The rush of battle is a potent and often lethal addiction, for war is a drug."
It's only the first thing you see on screen. Do you enjoy being illiterate?

>>86554100

That's just a quote to set the mood you dopey cumrag.

>>86554071
This.
It has a clear anti-war message, though.

>>86554146
>it only frames the entire movie and mirrors the main characters journey, representing a struggle that many people actually go through
>not a message
Your hooked on phonics get lost in the mail again?

>>86554146
>>86554017
Do you find gratification in pretending to be retarded?

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>>86548877
/tv/ literally never talks about this movie but it's really good.

>>86554048
>I was born and raised in Los Angeles

Sure you were, sweetie.

>>86554261
David O. Russell is great and deserves more love here.

>>86554327
Believe what you want anon but you sound like a dopey teen that saw Nightcrawler and said to yourself: "It's like a dark mirror image of our society, man."

In other words: don't be silly, anon. Nightcrawler is a black comedy.

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very highly recommend hell or high water, its really excellent

if you're in the mood for a more traditional period piece western I recommend In a Valley of Violence, its sort of a revenge movie with a surprisingly good performance from John Travolta as a corrupt marshal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFD4f1_eZno

>>86554261

It's a great movie but it has a very clear and unambiguous message.

>>86554444
Nice quads my bro. That's why I posted it because I figured it's what OP was looking for.

>>86554427

Nightcrawler is based on a true story. While there might be a few minor differences for the sake of making it a better movie, it's not satire or a "dark mirror", it accurately portrays LA as it was before it was cleaned up.

>>86550731
its set in 1980, yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLCL6OYbSTw

>>86554466

OP wanted a movie that DOESN'T contain any moralizing, Three Kings has an explicit and overt moral message to impart.

>>86554428
This one had a weird tone. Its attempts at comedy really fell flat but both Ethan Hawke and Travolta were solid and carried it for the most part.

>>86554499
Well he didn't necessarily say he doesn't want a moral message. He just doesn't want a typical sanitized one.

>>86551447
an FBI agent is a cop

>>86552659
>>>86552269
>ah yes the virgin basement meme. very good one i love it haha! no refutation of my argument though..very telling!
How about this, it was rather trite, speculative statement based on an entirely cliché and erroneous idea of how women behave that reeks of sexual resentment. You really didn't make much of an argument at all, much less one worthy of "refuting".

>>86554475
First, Nightcrawler isn't a period piece, it's set in modern day. Second, which "true story" is it based on? I'll wait.

>>86554555

That's better. Was that so hard? Dumb lazy nogoodnik.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA_fB1SbtHQ
this movie is awesome

>>86554580
btw, I'm not saying it's a bad movie at all, I quite liked it. It is absolutely an exaggerated black comedy though.

>>86554586
We need more movies where Micheal Caine kills teenagers.

>>86550265
What?

>>86554580

It's set in the 1950's and is based on the life of Ted Turner, founder of CNN.

>>86554645

He's presumably referring to the use of a beaner as the villain, and throwing in a reference to the ZOG while he does it. In other words, he's a simpleton who got lost on his way to /pol/.

>>86554648
I know you're trying to meme but why would it be set in the 50s when 24 hour news channels weren't a thing until the 80s?

>>86554555
Despite studies conducted by the military proving how worthless women are in combat, right?

>>86554733

Women as a class sure, individual women, no.

>>86553135
>the film hs a kierkegardian message
what do you mean?

>>86550909

Classic.

>>86554783
So the feelings of 00000.1% of women should be taken into consideration before you make posts on an anime imageboard?

>>86550909
If I knew for sure he had the kid then maybe

>>86554854

What? The movie is about one particular woman who is a competent soldier, the fact that this represents a tiny minority of women is irrelevant, or do you only watch movies where every character confirms to statistical means?

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>>86554555
google schopenhauer's essay on women. when you're done reading it lurk for about 14 months more before you begin posting again

>>86554928
> who is a competent soldier

Did we watch the same movie? The first five minutes of the movie establishes her incompetence, particularly the scene where she couldn't even safely clear a room and put others at risk. Also, I can only suspend my belief so much. A 5'5 90 pound woman acting like a man is overtly goofy, not that this movie is guilty of that.

>>86549974
Ironically 13 hours is more morally ambiguous and less preachy propaganda than shitcario

>>86555051

"Competent" doesn't mean "perfect" you cretinous fucktard. Or do you think that no male soldier has ever made a mistake?

Gran Torino

>>86555051
Within the narrative of the movie she was competent at her job. Yes they were using her but she never would have been picked in the first place if she wasn't good at what she did.

>>86555096
Clearing a room is the most basic task a soldier should be able to perform you penis envy suffering baby factory. You will never be equal to men. You will become obsolete when artificial wombs come into existence.

>>86555183
> good at what she did
> explicitly states that she was just there to conform to government red tape

>>86555264
Like I said, she was being used but they picked her specifically even though they knew she wouldn't be the easiest person to control.

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The Assassination of Jesse James would be up your street OP

>>86555318
There's literally a scene in the movie where they contemplate picking the nigger but decide against it once they learn that he's a law graduate, assuming that he would ask too many questions. The fuck are you on?

>>86553791
How is Leviathan, anon? I've seen people mention it from time to time and they always say it's depressing as fuck.

>>86554996
>google schopenhauer's essay on women. when you're done reading it lurk for about 14 months more before you begin posting again
>Read this evidenceless, esoteric, reactionary essay that I was thoroughly convinced by because it appealed to my base prejudices.
>Don't come back until you think exactly like I do.

>>86553718
Is that from the avengers

>>86549694
10/10

>>86555807
glad you were able to comprehend the post

>>86553658
Good to see someone gets it. The movie literally end with /spoiler "and then I wake up" /spoiler which completely undercuts the tone of hope from the Dream.

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>>86555807
>evidenceless
lol back to red-dit

>>86548877
>is sick of moral lessons
>lists 3 movies with explicit moral lessons
>wants more

what

>>86553966
Appending "this is film-making 101" to the end of your post doesn't make it correct. This is film making 101.

>>86548944
>when first post is actually best post

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If you don't mind foreign films War (2002) is great кинo about removing kebab. The full thing is on youtube, pic related

Not OP, but should I watch these then? Seen Sicario, The Departed and Children of Men

- Leviathan
- Hell or High Water
- Bone Tomahawk
- The Assassination of Jesse James
- No Country for Old Men
- Wind River
- Traffic
- Prisoners
- Animal Kingdom
- Blue Ruin

Any more?

>>86548978
Great choice

>>86557238
Also In A Valley of Violence

>>86556588
because no other board has any reason to believe they have a high percent of crossposters. stop changing the subject fagott

>>86548877

The Holy Mountain

>>86557238
Apocalyse Now, Cidade de Deus, Incendies, Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma.

>>86557437
Thanks, I've been meaning to watch City of God actually. Started it but was too distracted - I want to pay full attention to it when I watch it. Have seen Apocalypse Now as well.

The Wild Geese.

>>86548877
>pussy with gun

>>86557299
You were the one that changed the subject?
Also, I don't see how this is a problem. If you think they're somehow "tainting" your "pure" board culture I got news for you: your board culture is shit.

>>86558648
calling the boogeyman had nothing to do with the tainting of this board's culture. it was to tell you that you are so ignorant of basic biological facts and that you should lurk more until you inevitably become acquainted with them before you start posting again. everything in that schopenhauer essay is fact and if you disagree you are red=dit personified.

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>>86554996
>>86552659
>>86551870
>>86551165
>Schopenhauer
>r9k the philosopher

Why is it always the losers never play the game, actively critic it yet are always tempted to play it some more?

>>86549041
>ctrl f
>blue ruin
fuck ye

Also, >>86548877 check out I Dont Feel At Home In This World Anymore.

>>86555944
No it's from Wind River

>>86559185
schopenhauer is more hopeful and uplifting than this meme leads one to believe. people that espouse this notion that he's r9k personified have only read his essay on women

>>86559185
also
>replacing green pill with red pill
kys

>>86558877
No, everything in that essay is insight, and a rather narrow perspective of insight at that. There are no references or sources, no empirical data, just baseless truisms. What's funny is that you simply assume I've never been here or that I'm ignorant because I disagree. I've probably been here longer than you have, honestly. I bought the /r9k/ meme unironically like every one of /pol/'s vassals have, but at a certain point it becomes less an acknowledgement of the "failure" of women and more a yearning for them to prove that they fail. I have no doubt that women are physically weaker than men. I have no doubt that they're more prone to fear because of this. But rather than being impartial or dispassionate about these facts, you take every opportunity to relish in them. I'm not gonna speculate as to why this is the case, but I will say that you're carrying some serious baggage. At a certain point, you'll realize it's only weighing you down.

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>>86559576
No i've read non of his stuff but am more familiar with his will for preservation and stuff....vaguely.
I know he's not r9k, but his personal life is worth mentioning.

>>86548877

Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia.

>>86553135
Yeah-you're forgetting that the actual last line is-"and then I woke up". The whole point is that Jones has been relying on outdated idealism for years, he's ultimately completely impotent. There's no place in this world for romanticism.

Chigurh is itonically, the only one to adopt a consistent principle or code, although what that specifically is isn't always clear. But even he is laid low by a granny asleep at the wheel. If you think No Country was at all hopeful you're profoundly mistaken.

>>86549041
Hell or High Water was so good.

>>86550909
He deserved it for suffocating poor doggo though.

>>86551062
Holy shit thanks for the rec, Suburra was great. Do you know any other good Italian movies?

>>86548877

She doesn't seem to be wearing much of or any plate carrier, unless that's an awkward one over her liver/right side.

>>86559690
it's like you don't even know what philosophy is. here's some science for your red=dit head >>86554733

>>86553718
Was this as good as Sicario? Or at least as good as Hell or High Water? There's nothing I look forward to quite as much as a snowy western/thriller.

ITT: capeshitters designate one thread in which to discuss film on this whole trash board

>>86563858
ALL THESE MOVIES ARE VERY RIGHT WING

>>86563065
>proving how worthless women are in combat, right?
if infantry then yes.

the only women who could handle infantry would need to be in gender based units, at least 5ft9 and been roiding for at least 2yrs.

>>86548944
rekt

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>>86551607
Why don't women do good in motorcycle racing? It does not require strength.

Why Don't they compete with men's E sports teams?

They just don't have the right stuff anon

>>86553428
Fargo series fucking stinks though anon

>>86550909
the absolute classic man

>>86550058

It's directed by the guy that made the Gomorrah tv series, i think it will be good. Gomorrah is the The Wire of Italy.

>>86548877

You should watch Get Out, senpai

>>86555680
Leviathan (1989) was one of my favorite movies growing up if that helps you.

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>>86549974
This movie really surprised me. Lots of clunky dialogue, but the gunfights were pretty damn sweet.

>>86564693
woman is biologically weak. woman must shut fuck up after menstruating.

>>86560118

This one is a misunderstood masterpiece.

>>86566254
roided women don't menstruate

>>86566330
woman is weak

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>>86566492
>woman is weak

>>86548877
Unforgiven is a classic of this particular genre.

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>>86548877
Watch this

>>86548877
Sicario has a lot of good lessons
>the drug war isn't black and white but grey
>to protect America citizens and sovereignty some nasty shit must be done at times
>enemy of my enemy is my friend
>if you're a woman, you must eventually learn that your actions have consequences
>nobody is innocent; we all have blood on our hands
>when shits about to go down, DRAW YOUR FUCKING SERVICE PISTOL

>>86561046
I disagree for a few reasons.

>you're forgetting that the actual last line is-"and then I woke up".
I think you're taking it out of context:
>And in the dream I knew that he was going on ahead and he was fixing to make a fire somewhere out there in all that dark and all that cold. And I knew that whenever I got there, he’d be there. And then I woke up.
You seem to imply that the dream is a fantasy that gets shattered when he wakes up. This doesn't make sense because at the end of the dream, despite knowing his father is waiting for him, he's still alone in the darkness, which is the same way he has felt about his life through the entire movie. It makes more sense for the dream not to be a fantasy but a metaphor of his reallity, and therefore his hope to be real.

>There's no place in this world for romanticism.
>If you think No Country was at all hopeful you're profoundly mistaken.
But by the end he's still a good man who loves his wife. That is both romantic and hopeful in itself.

The movie is pretty much this:
>Sheriff feels the world has changed for worse.
>Has a crisis of faith because of it.
>His uncle tells him that what he has to deal with is nothing new.
>Sheriff realizes the world has always been dark and cold and he's now too old to do something about it.
>He accepts his situation and finds peace in his marriage and in the idea of meeting his father again in the after life.

Even the title itself is a reference to a poem by Yeats about an old man sailing to a spiritual city beyond the limits of the material world.

It's kind of a hopeful movie in its own way.