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How the fuck did he lose?

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How the fuck did he lose?
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>>86497722
Bad writing
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He was essentially a Padawan
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He was just a mall ninja
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>>86497722
would it have even mattered if he won? what the fuck was he doing in the entire film? he had no motivations, no reasons or rationale for his actions, no character etc.
>>86497765
he was a sith lord
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>>86497722
he's a one dimensional weapon user.
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>>86497765

Not even. He had the skill set of a weapons master. His force abilities were weak
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Obi'wan had the high ground, from a certain point of view
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>>86497722

Obi-Wan had the moral high ground.
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>>86497722
because "obi wan kenobi was the best swordsman in the galaxy blah blah blah he killed vader brtttf"
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He was taunting and let his guard down.
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Plot armour + a lucky chance for Obi Wan to use his superior force abilities to take him by surprise.

In a realistic 1 on 1 duel where Obi Wan doesn't get his cheap meme tactic he probably would've shit on him the same way he did to Qui Gon, but Obi Wan was alive for ANH, so that doesn't get to happen.
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he was just shit in the movies, only the EU comics depicted him as an exceptionally good fighter
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>>86497851

Obi-Wan hadn't even mastered Form III by then. His primary fighting style was Form IV as a Padawan, which he utilized at the end of his duel with Maul. Useful, but ultimately a flawed technique in the long run. His mastery of Form III later in life allowed him to permanently finish off Maul in their reunion duel on Tatooine.
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he got lucky, stop being salty neckbeards about it
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>>86497791
>he was a sith lord
more like a shitlord
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>yoda had to run like a bitch because an aged Sheev was more powerful in every way
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>>86497997

you can always count on the wook to make something seem autistic
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>he got better
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because the force has a plan so a galaxy far, far away is actually hell where no free will exists
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>>86497722
He could've very easily won. He got cocky after killing quigon and good ol obi got em by surprise.
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>>86497747
Fpbp
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I just had a vision of the prequels being good. imagine this, anakin himself is a twin and his twin dies tragically in the pod race, this is what starts him on the path to the dark side. now when he murders the sand people after avenging his mother it's a little more understandable because he's had a truly tragic upbringing.
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>>86497966
>In a realistic 1 on 1 duel where both parties are using magical powers and swords made from lasers
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>>86498560
I don't know what that means
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>>86498701
"First Post Best Post"
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>>86497997
>Form III
>Form IV
not canon
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>>86497791
A sith lord?
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>>86497791
>he had no motivations/reasons/rationale for his actions

ummm he was trying to kill the Jedi so that the trade federation could force the treaty making the blockade legal? That was literallty his motivation, reasoning and rationale.

Maybe the reason why people think the prequels are shitty is because some people (you) are too fucking stupid to understand what was going on.
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Their final match was kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeG215-yu-k
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>>86497981
He was obviously a good fighter in the movie as well. Being able to take on a Jedi Knight(who for all intents and purposes was a master) and his very well trained padawan(who for all intents and purposes was a Knight already, just had to complete the trials which were piss easy) is no small accomplishment.
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>>86498766
what absolute cancer
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>>86497722
Awfull writing. Damn it, such a waste. Darth Maul was god damn charismatic and the actor actually was a good fighter. Contrary to the lightsabers duels in episode 2 and 3, those in episode 1 looked brutal and martial.
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>>86498721
Ahh thank you
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>>86497722
Obi Wan had the higher ground in his point of view.
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>>86498818
mmm this is the type of insight I expect for tee vee
good post, my man
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>>86497722
Why didn't they just fly the eagles back to Couroscant
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>>86498802
i think i read somewhere quigon wasnt good with a lightsaber.
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>>86499063
I might be miss remembering things, but I think Qui-gon was a Ataru master, and in the final duel he had no room to do his flips, I might be talking out of my ass but him dying was the reason that obi-wan mastered defensive forms.
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>>86498885
Underrated
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>>86497722
He was cocky and arrogant, overestimating himself and underestimating his opponents.
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>>86498885
Bravo
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>>86497722
He didn't know how to use the high ground.
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>>86497722
Obiwan had plot armor.
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>>86497747
>I have to make up some sort of criticism otherwise people would get the idea that I like it
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>>86498885
Yes, but from Maul's perspective he had the high ground, so wouldn't that cancel each other's high grounds out?
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>>86498763
This.
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>>86497722
He dies in Season 3 by Kenobi
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>>86498885
lol
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>>86497722
He was a faggot with gay lightsaber
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Rei would beat him easily
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>>86499922
Obi-Wan also had the moral highground, which is what let him overcome that.
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>>86498885
kek
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>>86498739
They are the sloth form and the porg form now.
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>>86497722
Obi Juan just saw his master get lasered so he had extra motivation.
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>>86503846
So he got angry and used the dark side. Bravo Lucas
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>>86497722
Obi Wan was the best Soresu duelist in the entire history of the Jedi Order.
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Who trained Darth Maul again? He was good enough to fight 2 jedi at once and kill one so he must have had a good mentor
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>>86504428
sheev, who else
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>>86497997
>all this irrelevant noncanon fanfic
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>>86497722
His overconfidence was his weakness
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>>86498766
garbage
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>>86499922
>>86501312
>Moral highground
>PoV highground
>Spinning midair
He could never lose.
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Because Obi Wan was a talented jedi who tapped into the dark side to get the better of him without straying nearer to it.
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>>86499242
>>86499063
I think the only thing that's canon is that the Jedi hadn't partaken in sword-fighting since the Sith were around so were all kind of shit in Episode I.

General answer to the thread: Obi-wan's rage and quick thinking while maul was taunting meant that Maul basically threw the duel. Why Obi-wan kept getting stomped by Dooku every time when Anakin held his own and then beat him, I guess we'll never know.
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>>86505060
desu he could block 20+ strikes/second from grevious
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>>86499904
>the force allows force-sensitive people to have superhuman reactions yet Darth Maul couldn't stop Obiwan flying up and over him in the course of 4 whole seconds
And that's ignoring the fact that Darth Maul had the foresight to kick Obiwan's lightsaber down the pit but not Quigon's. And ignoring the fact that he didn't simply kill him while he was hanging in the pit. One force push and it would have been over. It's fucking retarded mate.
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>>86498885
B R A V O L U C A S
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>>86497722

The dark side isn't stronger, only stronger in your mind.
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unironic answer
he got cocky
dark side give you rage power but a clear mind wins in the end
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>>86507645
Pretty much this.
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He kept swinging with the intent of hitting Obi's saber instead of actually hitting him
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>>86497997

>Lightsaber forms are no longer canon

Thank god this autism has been swept under the rug.
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>>86497935
Pretty much this, just like Palpatine he let his pride get to him and refused to believe he could be stopped in battle.
The only dumb part was how he did nothing when obi wan jumped up.
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Most battles/duels/fights/sports matches are decided by luck and chance mistakes, not just pure skill and strength. The most skilled swordsman in the world could still accidentally stumble on a rock behind him during a duel and then get stabbed in the neck. I was sparring with a friend who was a better fighter than me with more experience, but I was bigger and stronger. I got the upper hand and had him in a submission. I let up thinking I won before he tapped out and he took advantage of the moment, getting me into a submission and making me tap out.

Maul had superior skills but he let up and got cocky when he thought he won and Obi Wan was smart enough to take advantage of the small moment of opportunity. It wasn't bad writing at all, it was basically the only good thing about the movie.
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>>86498588
He was a fucking slave who had to leave his mother behind when he was like 5 years old. Seems tragic enough
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>>86499922
high ground is a light side only buff
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