Is he a bad actor, or was he just given bad scripts?

mediocre actor, horrible script.

>>86422652
He's good it was the script and george's direction. That being said despite the stupid shit Revenge of the Sith is my favorite for some reason.

was he in anything before SW besides in the mouth of madness?

>>86422652
> Ok Hayden act like a angsty teen
> Acts like an angsty teen
Waaaaaah, whats wrong with him, why is he always so edgy

>>86422750
Because of scenes like this
https://youtu.be/HLfGh2b_me0

>>86422776
Jumper maybe?

he's specifically bad at dialogue, and was given shit dialogue

when he's not talking he's actually pretty good

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>>86422652
Crappy scripts and shit plot ruined him.
>>86422817
Jumper was alright.

NEITHER. V>III>IV>VI>I>II>>R1>>>>>>>>TFA

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>>86422806
It's like an endless cycle

>>86422652
There are moments where he's very good, usually when Anakin does something awful and you're reminded that this is the guy who turns into Darth Vader. But George doesn't really commit to that vision of the character, in the script or his directing choices.

The character is all over the place, so the performance is too. Christensen doesn't really have the natural charisma to carry the movies through all these tone shifts, and he falls completely flat as a romantic lead or heroic figure. The messy construction of the films makes it completely unclear whether that's a performance choice to depict an "evil" character, or just a swing-and-a-miss.

>>86422652
Didn't he ham it up to imitate Vader's way of speech from the original trilogy?

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Which Anakin was better?

He must be a very good actor. I didn't believe for a second that he wanted to impregnate Natalie Portman whenever he was within 20 feet of her -- that takes amazing acting.

He and Sheev always played well off each other

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>>86422652

>>86423281
sheev just elevates the performances of everyone else in the room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qW3YcXJeyg

I-I-I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG CHUCK

>>86423111
No no its because im so in love with you

>>86422958
>There are moments where he's very good, usually when Anakin does something awful and you're reminded that this is the guy who turns into Darth Vader.

This, when he killed the sand people out of anger and when hes yelling at Obiwan at the end of RotS. The chemistry with him and ewan i always enjoyed as well

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He's best when he's slaughtering people and has his serious face on

Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor were the best actors in the prequels. Also Liam Neeson but it was a pity that his character didn't last more.

>>86422652
whos watching TNT, I'm watching TNT

>>86425170
Same

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>>86425125
He still had his cameo moments

>>86425197
it's weird seeing 3po sitting down

Why is it whenever Anakin opens his mouth, it's cringy, but when he's just staring into the camera, it's amazing?

Patrician opinion coming through

Good actor, good script, good directing.

Try to prove me wrong.

>>86423046
>Square jaw
>Deep, manly voice
>Notable absence of DSL
Not even a competition.

>>86425365
https://youtu.be/hi5jjXTPtyY

>>86423046
well this one was a little wooden

>>86425437
Wow, moving scene, amazing how much depth can be in what seems such an ordinary line?

Just sitting on the couch, watching Anny choke Natalie Portman.
Name a comfier thing to do

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That awkward moment when Hayden was better than Ewan in a scene

>>86425644
>Don't make me kill you. (Evil smile)

That line was too lazy for me.

>>86425872
there's no evil smile though, lol.

>>86422652
In Episode 2 I will say is 50/50 but I think he did a decent job in Episode 3. Still, te script were a disaster so...

>>86425644
What was Anakins plan here? He obviously was trying to get Obi wan to join him but then what? Team up and kill sheev?

>>86426209
>Obviously trying to get obi wan to join him
Wut

>>86426561
>If you're not with me then you're my enemy
>Dont make me kill you

Seems like he was trying to get obi-wan to join him so they could still be best buds and take down sheev which is why anakin says
>My new empire
When its not, its sheevs new empire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN5t8CYI5c0

Watching the fight in this quality is another thing.

>>86426751
Then I guess that was his plan

Revenge of the Sith is the epicentre of man's modern mythos, and this duel between student and master is the heart.

>>86427103
Time to go to sleep George.

>>86426751
I think he was just saying fuck off and I will let you live.

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>>86426767
>CHANCELOR PALPATINE IS EVIL
>using fucking meta language in a real-life situation non-ironically

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>>86427103
I don't care if you're memeing, I unironically believe this. I felt so many things seeing RotS in theaters whereas TFA I felt nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8J2l0XQG0g

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>It's a kino episode

>>86427285
Explain.

It really sounds like propaganda, that line. That or kids language.

The prequels was full of bad acting by good actors. I guess you could say the same thing about the originals. But in my opinion the prequels had unbelievably horrible acting by everyone.

The only exception was Obi Wan's "You were the chosen one" scene. That was the best acting in any Star Wars movie. Even though the prequels never really built a friendship on screen between Anakin and Obi Wan, you felt so bad for Kenobi in that scene. Ewan McGregor did a great job there

>>86422652
A good actor will not suffer that much from a bad script. Neeson, McGregor, Samuel and McDiarmid were reasonably good for that matter.

But Portman and Hayden... man they took bad acting to a next level. And they had no chemistry at all.

Poor script and especially dialogue. The story George wanted to tell is good, just executed poorly. He wrote it more like a novel than a screenplay.

>>86423046
TCW, not even close
>heroic, inspiring, and fiercely loyal to his loved ones but also possessing a fearsome temper
>skilled military commander
>fleshed out relationships with Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Padme, and the Council
>fact that he's the Chosen One is actually expanded on and explained
>fall to the dark side is much more believable and even justified

>>86427482
Think about it. Despite the sci-fi, we're supposed to believe these are real, actual people. Imagine two idealistic spies fighting hand to hand, and one of them is being manipulated by a dictator/politician. Is his buddy gonna scream ''he's evil''? No, that would be retarded. He'd say something like ''he works for country/organization'' or ''he's corrupt''. I mean seriously, how retarded is it that an adult unironically uttered that line to another adult? And not even in some context like ''he's an evil son of a bitch'' just ''lmao telling you his alignment''. What the fuck?

>>86427560
Ian McDiarmid did a great job. Especially the Darth Plagueis scene. All the actors did what they were supposed to do. They can't be faulted. It was directing.

>>86427576
Come on, they had by far the worst lines

>>86422652
Good at bad scripts.
He's memorable.

>>86427291
comment's a meme, but the sentiment is real.

RotS is a masterpiece.

>>86422958
>>86424818
>not giving us a full scene of how he's slaughtering sand people ''even the women and the children'' so we could start truly grasping how far he's falling
>but lmao better talk about sand

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>>86427416
CGI series did it better

>>86427679
Who had the worst lines, young Anakin, old Anakin or Jar Jar? Also, which was the worst actor?

>>86427744
>Your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me
>Mind tricks?

>>86427633
I agree with you. It's the same with the line "Don't make me kill you". It's like if George thought that the lines should be simple or something. But then you have all the political scenes talking about complicate issues.

>>86427765
portman and christensen

>>86427633
Should have said senator palptine is a faggot. Sounds more natural.

>>86427781
Even ''Don't make me kill you'' is just being extremely lazy. This is absolutely retarded. The only thing worse is Anakin's response, and it's delivery. George is garbage.

>>86427576
How did Portman manage to unJUST herself but Hayden didn't?

>>86427837
Unironically would make more sense.

>>86427633
They will probably fix this in the remake

>Anigga, please. Palpawhite is racist!

>>86427921
But they can't do that, because Anakin's response would be true ;)

>>86427849
The tone of the voice in that scene is absolutely garbage.

>>86427896
She's not a bad actor, also she has had more opportunities before and since then

>>86427679
They had some very corny and bad lines, but i recommend you look up some of the dialoge between obi wan and anakin. That was alsoo far from good. Yet, McGregor was as convincing as he could be. Hayden managed to fuck up those lines as well. Young Anakin (Loyd) was waaay better, and he was still a child.

>>86428003
And the line itself is just about the angstiest thing a human being can utter.

>>86428003
> you turned her agaiiiiiiiiinstt mieee

wtf is that?

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Everyone praising Ewan and Ian, but not giving Sir Lee any
Shameful

>>86428074
Yes he did good

https://youtu.be/Qaz4DIlqg5Y?t=1m33s

>>86422999
It's definitely Hayden saying "She was alive" after the operation.

>>86422652

Both. All the A listers also sucked.

>>86428074
Yeah I forgot about him.

Ian, Ewan, Lee and Neeson,

Why are the prequels so quoteable? Cause of the bad acting, bad lines, so many viewings?

>>86422999
nope

>>86422652
"> Anakin"
"> Jar Jar Binks"
"> Padme"

Most anoying characters ever.

>>86428074
His character was just so stupid and pointless and stuck out like a sore thumb, even he could save him.

>>86428130
The Good
>Hayden and Ewan chemistry
>"Don't make me kill you" (fuck off, it was a decent line)
The Bad
>"Only a sith deals in absolutes"
The Ugly
>Natalie Portman

>>86422652
I think it is a little bit of both. I don't think he is a fantastic actor but the script and George in general really hampered his performance. Even in the originals people complained that george's writing was terrible to say but thank god people had the sense to say fuck it and make changes or just adlib. SW was a billion dollar franchise and GL got to do what he wanted with the prequels so all of his shitty dialogue stayed in.

>>86426209
Anakin was trying to stop Obi-Wan from reaching the high ground.

>>86428296
>>"Don't make me kill you" (fuck off, it was a decent line)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA how old are you??

Maybe it is good for childish star wars.

>>86428237
What was the point of Count Dooku? He was the 2nd apprentice for Palpatine, but had an apprentice with General Greivous?

It seemed like he did whatever he wanted unless it was that one time to trick Anakin and Obi Wan, which ended with his head getting cut off.

>>86428296
>she isn't fucking me I hate her

It's really unnerving how much Ian and Ewan look and sound like younger versions of the original trilogy actors

>>86428074
great actor
his death will fucking depress me

>>86428459
He was mad because he thought she was fucking Obi Wan

>>86428534
But she was fucking Obi-Wan

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>>86428444
George fucked up by killing off Maul in the first, so he needed a replacement.

>>86428605
How do you know?

>>86422958
>Christensen doesn't really have the natural charisma to carry the movies through all these tone shifts
It's not even charisma, really... it's weight. They took a mediocre kid actor, and gave him a part that required ridiculous acting range and depth to pull off. For the character to work, the actor would need to get you personally invested in his tragic arc.

You're basically watching the equivalent of a highschool theatre class trying to do Macbeth, and then complaining because the lead doesn't measure up to Ian McKellan or Orson Welles.

>>86426751
They don't call it the rule of two for nothing

>>86428666
>killing off Maul in the first

>>86428666
Another big mistake by George. If he had developed Maul more it could have been better than Dooku I think though Christopher Lee made that character good.

>>86428488
Ian was in the originals lmao.

>>86423421
Sheev is unironically the best thing in star wars

>>86428678
I was spying on them

>>86428738
At the time, yes.

>>86428743
Dooku just doesn't feel right to me. His appearance, his powers, his backstory, his role, everything. It's like a fan character written into an existing franchise.

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>>86422652

>>86428925
Based

>>86426767
>Watching the fight in this quality is another thing.
hhahahahahaha holy hell that looks awful.

On the plus side, with all that shit flying around behind them, you hardly notice the crap acting.

>>86422813
goat scene
chills everytime

>>86428488
>Ian
>Looking like the younger version of the OT actor
There's a very specific reason for that, anon

>>86428889
Probably was. They probably had a design-a-jedi contest or something. I mean, his name is "Dooku". That's ridiculous, even by lucas standards.

>>86426767
>them swinging on the ropes always makes me kek

>>86428179
ewan and liam fucking sucked

>>86428605
She was also fucking Sheev

From the way he was spoken of in the OT, he was supposed to be the most gallant and chivalrous Jedi of the age, making his seduction by evil all the more tragic.

Instead, he was like 20 when he fell and spent both of the movies where he was actually a Jedi complaining about the rigors of it and committing horrible atrocities. As soon as the decision to go with that plot was made, no amount of acting skill could have saved it.

>>86429421
>From the way he was spoken of in the OT, he was supposed to be the most gallant and chivalrous Jedi of the age, making his seduction by evil all the more tragic.
so you be saying he was a good friend? But really tho I don't recall anything like that mentioned in the OT. Kenobi talked about him twice, his good friend speech and then his explanation speech about why he didn't tell luke and then yoda just saying 'your father he is'.

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>>86425002

He has a beautifully crazed look.

>>86422652
The cast of the original trilogy were never "hot." They were all a bit goofy looking even though their fame forced their un-hotness upon us. One of George's big mistakes with the prequels was trying to cast good looking people. Of course Ewan and Natalie were already renowned actors who weren't part of the young Hollywood crowd. They saw themselves as serious actors, not teenage heartthrobs. I understand George wanting to find an "unknown" to play Anakin, but he went with a guy who looked like he was about to accept a Teen Choice award.

>>86422652
>>86422735
>>86422750
>they still don't get that the script and acting in the prequels were meant to be that way on purpose.

Jesus Christ, the state of /tv/ in the summer.

Lucas was basically a turbo autist, the likes of which we've never seen before. He came of age in the era of American New Wave filmmaking, and his breakout success was American Grafitti, an New Wave film about life in 1950's California. For Star Wars, he decided to make an homage to the 1940's sci-fi adventure serials that he grew up watching as a kid, before he discovered racing cars and such, but decided to blend the fantasy worldbuilding and brisk, exciting pacing of those stories with plot elements lifted from Kurosawa films and 1950's greaser narratives, and apply the special effects technology seen in films like 2001 to the whole package, which would be filmed/acted like a 1970's American New Wave movie.

Star Wars, as we know it, was the result.

Now, when Lucas decided to film the prequels, he knew that they would take place roughly 30-40 years before what was now known as the OT. That being the case, he chose to write and films that were every bit the narrative/directorial/stylistic predecessors to Star Wars as they were Prequels in terms of plot. Now, what people forget, is that the OT is still a part of the same American New Wave movement. And so, to stay stylistically consistent, Lucas chose to write, frame, and direct the Prequels not in the style of a late-90's blockbuster, but in the style of a "golden era" Hollywood film of the 1930's or 40's. Meaning that the "stilted" dialogue and "wooden" acting of the prequels was meant to be that way on purpose, so that they might literally reflect what a Star Wars film shot in the 1930s or 40's would look like. It was an act of pure, unbridled autism.

>>86422813
Turn on TCM and compare this scene to whatever they're playing right now. $100 says that the lines, the direction, and the delivery are damn near dead-on.

>>86429721
Awww, look at them pretending that they don't hate each other

>>86429836
If this was true he would have relied on practical effects available during the 40s instead of over relying on CGI.

>>86429421

You're romanticizing the idea you had of him at the end of the OT.

Nothing george created would have filled that void anon.

He was a war hero and a great fighter pilot. That was about all he originally was. As vader became most popular villain in history, george dogpiled the shit out of the character and now every movie not even related to skywalkers, needs vader's presence, somewhere.

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>>86429768
>The cast of the original trilogy were never hot

>>86429946

George might have needing more help from acting coach/dialogue finesse but they dated at one point, so I doubt they hated each other.

Why didn't Anakin drop Padme for Ahsoka?

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>>86429990
Like the autist he was, he chose to sperg out on CGI as hard as he could because remember, it was still the 90's and people actually thought that Xavier: Renegade Angel-looking shit like pic related looked good only a few years earlier.

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>>86430264

This is after she has already peaked and been subject of intense male adoration for nearly 20 or so odd years.

>>86430372
Ahsoka's still hotter

>>86430463

>Males turning down natalie portman even after kids
>ever

your orange butt cheeks stand no chance in face of absolute villainy that is natport

>>86422813

this scene is kino as fuck

>>86430507
But Nat doesn't have hair tentacle things, does she?

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>>86429836
>hahaha, joke's on you, I was only pretending to be a terrible writer

>>86430569

torgruta or whatever race she is isn't twileks but they're easy to confuse and wook name is lekku for tentacles.

>>86430639

are you implying he isn't autistic enough to do exactly what that anon says? It's not like he's excusing the behavior, he's explaining.

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>>86428531
anon...

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Was this kino?

>>86430955
Naw, but it looks exactly like something from a 1930s/40s Universal horror movie, which is exactly what Lucas wanted.

>>86431002
I honestly think the no gets too much hate

>>86430756
Why not both?

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Who was in the wrong here?

>>86422735
Fpbp

>>86431490
Windu for getting a rush of blood to the head and not thinking that maybe the sith lord who's planned every major event of the last 13 years wants the jedi to sperg out and try to assassinate the democratically elected leader of the republic

>>86431987
28D panchromatic mahjong

>>86431987

he took a handful of jedi masters to confront the guy that has been manipulating everything for decades.

A warrior he might be but a planner he wasn't.

>>86422652
Let's see how well he mo-capped the sloth.

>>86429836
>It was an act of pure, unbridled autism.

This explains the fact that the ships look they are from the fucking serials of the 30's. Which makes no sense. There is no way that ship designs or any designs for that matter would change so rapidly in a vast galaxy that is seemingly always at war with itself.

Now, would weaponry advance? Yes, but ironically that is the one thing that does stay stagnant in the Star Wars movies from PT to OT. The only weaponry advancement is seen in planet killers, all other weapons stay as they are.

>>86423046
Would fuck Matt Lanter's voice.

He is terrible. Have you seen Jumpers?

>>86429836

Nope. Lucas has outright states that dialogue is one of his weakest areas as a film maker.

>>86431987
But the Jedi didn't try to assassinate him. They tried to arrest him, and he attacked first.

>>86429836
Your post is complete bullshit, but I do appreciate that George tried to take the prequels in a different direction. The abundance of political bullshit is offputting, and you have to give him credit for not doing exactly what he did for the first three.

>>86432635

>Cornering a sith lord
>not knowing what was going to happen

it was an assassination attempt

you can put it in jedi-sh terms but call it what it was

>>86432668
*but

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>>86431987

>>86429836
Even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that the writing and overall execution of the concept were terrible.

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>>86427777
TCW was pure kino. also quads

>>86432635
>they tried to arrest him
>by igniting their laser swords once the door to his room was closed behind them

Incredible after decades there are still jedi apologists

>>86432683
It was an attempt to arrest him. They gave him a chance to stand down peacefully. He struck first. Come on now.

>>86432848
Understandable precautions when confronting a Sith lord. Doesn't mean they would have killed him if he surrendered.

>>86422652
Great actor and the script was amazing sorry your baby mind needs big flashing lights and fast moving objects to keep you entertained. You probably watched the moving while Sucking down bucketfuls of greasy overseasoned popcorn and that combined with the sound of your fat Jowells smacking Probably made the dialogue illegable. Then you had the pause the movie 50 times becuase you had to go pee everything 30 minutes from your burger prostate cancer.

>>86430368
>Like the autist he was, he chose to sperg out on CGI as hard as he could because remember

That is true. He also lost completely the tough of working as director as he had only produced movies since original Star Wars. Doing everything on green screen also has effect on most scenes.

>it was still the 90's and people actually thought that Xavier: Renegade Angel-looking shit like pic related looked good only a few years earlier.

No-one thought that shit like The Lawnmower Man looked good.. maybe only when compared stuff that then contemporary real time computer graphics looked. That stuff is bad for pre-rendered CGI. Maybe on low budget tv-show it would have been passable.

There is world of difference between late 90's and early 90's when it comes CGI, it was the fucking decade when it became mature as effects production method.

>>86432622
>Lucas has outright states that dialogue is one of his weakest areas as a film maker

This would be like a construction worker saying his weak point is building bridges and then his bridge collapses, but people are like, "well he said it was a weakness so you can't get mad that people died."

The fact that he knows it is his weakness and yet still purposely doesn't let other people write his movies for him just goes to show how fucking autistic he is.

>>86433083

>Become one of the world's most well known construction workers
>Your bridges keep falling down

"I warned them. "

>>86432856

Calm yourself, you know this anon is also on /pol/ trying to blame Charlottesville on BLM.

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>>86433137
>"I warned them. "

>>86422652
>>86422652
Here's the thing about Lucas, he can write an amazing epic story with an epic universe and lore BUT he's shit at writing dialogue. It is all very campy and forced. It's ALWAYS been this way, even with the old films, but we sort of expect films from the 70s to be campy with bad dialogue. But it's amazing no one realizes that Luke Skywalker in the OT could give Hayden a run for his money in bad cringeworthy lines with bad delivery.

Honestly, it takes an actor with a whole lot of charisma like Peter Cushing, James Earl Jones, or Harrison Ford to pull crappy lines off with so much charisma that it doesn't matter.

Very few actors would do well with the constant cringey dialogue Lucas creates. So yes, Hayden was given a bad script BUT he's also a TERRIBLE actor. I actually think the prequels could have been okay with a few minor tweaks, but one was certainly recasting both child and teenage Anakin.

>>86433775
Love scenes in particular. I have a sneaking suspicion Lucas had very few (or possible none) women prior to hitting it big and once he became famous, he didn't have to try to hit on women, they lined up for him....

So he has NO IDEA how lovers are supposed to talk and it becomes sort of a shitty g-rated fairy tale love dialogue mixed with crappy romance novel tropes.

>"George you can type this stuff but you sure as hell can't say it"

Harrison Ford to George Lucas during the filming of Star Wars

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>>86428531

>>86434101
If you've read the big piece around about his wife of the time and her involvement with the original trilogy, George really is that big an autist. It's not an exaggeration.

>The duels in TCW still haven't been topped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6_0Y4nnylA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyiDDQYPUIs&t=138s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7hBZNsPnyg&t=144s

>>86428074
>>86428237
And that special snowflake lightsaber shit.

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Was it kino?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no4SxdIIDBE&t=152s

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>>86422652

Good actor, incredibly shitty scripts. He actually asked George Lucas to rewrite it, he thought it was so bad.

Now he's made his millions and he's on some /comfy/ farm in Canada fucking that Jewess from Hart of Dixie.

>>86434798
unironically yes

>>86434409
>tfw my favorite TCW arc was the unfinished Crystal Crisis one
Damn shame.

>>86423046

Best Anakin

>>86434965
>from Hart of Dixie
Couldn't you have at least said The OC?

>>86422750
I understand the hate for I and II, but Revenge of the Sith is an unironically good blockbuster.
it stalls by the end, but is still entertaining and technically solid.
Memes will meme i guess

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>>86435113

hayden has a thing for petite brunettes.

>>86435113

>watching teen drama ever

fag

>>86435355
Who's that? Kaia Gerber?

>>86435584

Rachel bilson, his co-star from jumper, who he had a kid with

>>86434798

The duel itself, yes. The rest, no.

>>86435973
>>86432608
>>86422868
>>86422817
Btw, Jumper 2 has been confirmed.
yes, literally 9 years after the first one.
It's going straight to youtube red.

>>86434409
They never will be by live action. Animation is able to strike that perfect balance between complex choreography and still looking like the combatants are actually trying to kill each other in a way real humans simply can't. It can also incorporate the force into fights in ways that look great animated but would have to be be completely cgi in a movie like Sheev spinning and flipping around.

>>86436208

Hey i'm just glad it exists.

Hell i'm just glad Hayden got that welcome he did at 40th anniversary in Orlando, the room lit up for him.

A guy that has taken as much shit as him getting one sweet moment must of been a nice balm

>>86423046
overacting

>>86425002
Why does his eyes change color?

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>>86435973

>be actor playing Anakin Skywalker
>co-star is a Jewess
>date co-star
>break-up
>knock up another Jewess co-star the same age with similar physical traits
>no one has noticed this pattern

That nigga got Hebrew Fever

>>86436388

It's really weird but he has a very specific type of want out of women. All his girlfriends look like natalie portman

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>>86436568

>>86436568
I mean, yours don't?

>>86436702

I like petite brunettes as much as the next guy, it's just kind of weird to date 3 women that look very similar.

>>86422735

I'll add Lucas can't direct that well either.

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>>86436752

>>86428013
literally jewish. and hayden was pure aryan.

>>86436893

Hayden's kids are going to be chosen folk now.

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>>86437309

Hayden be like

>"Hehehe... With my Mischling children, there's nothing those kikes can do to stop them fufilling their destiny and building an acting dynasty that last SIX MILLION YEARS!!!"

>>86435532
The fuck is Hart of Dixie?

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>>86438011

It was one of those shows on the cw that was on bubble the entire time so they just usually slotted in for mid-season returns. Or summer

>>86437817
>>86437309
>>86436893
Rachel Bilson's dad is Jewish, not her mother. She's not a jew by their weird voodoo laws.

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>>86429836
I choose to believe this since there are no other positive alternatives

>>86428074
I'm sorry, but Lee's acting was shit. Especially in any scene when he supposed to be physical, like using the force. Which is strange, because he was great as Saruman in LOTR and looked good doing magic scenes.

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https://youtu.be/KJJqYoMxG7o

Absolutely everyone in those movies with the lone exception of Ian McDiarmid was completely terrible, and there were plenty of talented people in them.

It was definitely the combination of bad scripts and worse direction.

>>86422652
he's terrible. anyone who disagrees or thinks he's "not bad" is literally retarded.

while Lucas' dialogue skills have never been all that great you can see how good actors on his films worked with the material provided and made it work. a good actor can do that. hayden christensen is such a bad actor that he misread/misinterpreted pretty much every single one of his lines in the two prequel films that he was a part of. he is the single biggest reason why the prequels are so shit.

>>86438143
>their weird voodoo laws
the joos know the nature of women, they are smart that way

>>86423046
A better person, or a better Anakin? The PT Anakin is much closer to Lucas' vision of Anakin as an arrogant, insecure, troubled man who was immensely powerful but easily corruptable with the right tools. TCW Anakin is morally stronger, a good leader and a wise teacher to his pupil, and more in balance with his emotions, but this characterization doesn't make any sense knowing that this man eventually becomes Vader. That said, he's definitely a better person.

>>86427921
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, BLM IS RACIST

>>86428296
I'm pretty sure "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" is meant to be hypocritical, but okay.

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>>86429836
>They were meant to be shitty on purpose

>>86428296
>"Don't make me kill you" (fuck off, it was a decent line)
What the hell was decent about it? That's something you'd hear a villain say in a Saturday morning cartoon.

At least pick the "You were my brother" line or something, jfc.

>>86429133
Ironically he got the best Sith name of any character. "Darth Tyranus" sounds cool as fuck.

>>86433008
Agreed. There is no way people weren't conscious of how it looked - uncanny and bad.

This 30s/40s meme seems more and more legit by the minute

the high ground scene was pure bane-tier kino before the plane scene was even a thought in nolans balls

>>86426767
I don't remember it looking THAT bad

Then love has blinded you??!? :(