Who was the better villain and why?

>>86416847
As much as I like Dafoe's kooky performance, Ock was definitely the better villain.

His character is more relatable and human, you can sort of tell that he's not really himself after his wife dies and he's sort of traumatized.

The one who's still the best Comic book movie villain to this day. Doc Ock all the way

>>86416847
Goblin stays evil til the end, no heroic sacrifice redemption bullshit

>>86416847
While Spider-Man 2 is the better movie, Green Goblin remains the best villain.

A lot of that comes down to Dafoe's performance and characterization of Osborn/GG. He is just so entertaining and exciting to watch on screen. Not to mention he has a lasting impact on the rest of the trilogy.

Ock is still great too though.

>>86416847
oh my god it's ALFRED MOLINA

>>86416847
In the movies? Doc. Tragic figure. I find that more relatable than a pissed off rich guy mad he lost his seat at a company.

In the comic? Gobby. The fact that Norman Osborne became a thorn in EVERYONE'S side in SIEGE and post Civil War immediately makes him better than mind-wiping Doc Oc.

Personally tho? Give me a god damn SCORPION ALREADY! Fuck, I'll take a Mac GGargon Venom at this point (Thunderbolts not a requirement)

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Fucking when?

>>86417444
Probs next movie. Hopefully he doesn't get sequeled as a villain, like Whiplash, or Malekith.

Man, I don't know what it is about Alfred Molina's Doc Ock, but he's just amazing. I'm not the only one who notices this imperceptible right stuff he has.

Both were excellent heroes, but Doc Ock better put a human face to the counter-semitism, which makes him a better rolemodel.

>>86417743
Who will play him?

>>86416847
Doc was pretty good, but Willem Dafoe was so over the top and hilarious, he kinda reminded me of Sheev.

>>86418701
Bruce Campbell.

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>>86418929

>>86417444
Superhero-movie hating director wants to get back to prominence by fmaking a movie torturing Spiderman
Make he look like Inarritu

Ock was simply better. Tragic, intelligent, threatening and Raimi gets a plus for managing to make him not look completely ridiculous.

A disadvantage Spiderman villains have is that a good portion of them are just way too goofy to show up on film, Rhino being probably the best (worst) example.

>>86416847
from what i remember doc was better. More relatable and and decent/interesting reason for going evil.

>>86416847
goblin was more frightening, ock was more sympathetic and intelligent. they are too different to compare

Goblin was more entertaining I think but Ock had a better performance and arc.

>>86419952
What about the real hog goblin?

>A cackling, pumpkin-hurling, flying psychopath
vs.
>dude with robot arms

No contest.

>>86421203
actually sounds like a contest on paprt to me. Extra arms are always insanely useful.

B U T T E R F I N G E R S

>>86419952
>goblin was frightening

how old were you?

how old are you?

how retarded are you?

>>86421624
Calm down wizard. He's talking about a movie which came out 15 fucking years ago he probably was a kid at the time.

The way Raimi hid the full Goblin reveal and built it up by having him approaching on the glider with Dafoe's evil laugh was pretty effective.

>>86417743
I'm kinda bummed out it's going to be boring because it's MCU. Sam Raimi doing Mysterio would've been a mindfuck

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Goblin since spiderman 2 is overrated