Give it to me straight, was he just a GRRM self-insert?
>>86378544
Sam is faggot. And dont make new threads for stupid shit like this.
>>86378633
That's not Sam, and what can I make threads about?
>>86378740
Why would Sam be the insert and not Robert? Please Explain.
>>86378800
explain this retard
>>86378883
I'm not sure I'm getting you. Sam seems timid yet optimistic. That doesn't seem ask that similar to GRRM.
>>86378953
>he is still replying
y
>>86379019
Uh, we're having a discussion mate.
>>86379041
Im not. you are already told the answer. if anyone else replies to this thread, please sage it as well.
>>86378953
Sam is usually regarded as the insert, but you got a point. GRRM is just a shell of bitterness. Sam is totally different.
>>86379083
No, you just sperged out but didn't provide evidence to back your claim. This discussion could be so much more pleasant, you know.
>>86378544
No, Robert was a Chad past his prime. Gurrm was never a Chad.
>>86379282
Hmm. Do self-inserts usually take on their creators image or the idealised image if the creator?
>>86379250
I like you goy, pleasant lad
FAT
PINK
MAST
>>86378544
Was he pretty much the cause of all the shit that went down?
Based Bobby B was far too good for GRRM
>>86378544
Why would GRRM make himself a cuck?
>>86379085
Grrm has stated himself that Sam is his self-insert.
>>86379714
>Believing anything GRRM says.
Now who was his ACTUAL insert?
>>86379714
Aside from that what proof do you have?
>>86378544
Bigger question, who are the D&D inserts?
>>86380757
Cercie and Jamie.
>>86379250
>evidence to back a speculative claim
go kys please
>>86378544
Not at all, Robert was the epitome of a chad
>>86378800
because GRRM said so himself.
>>86378544
GRRM is a fat manlet with no children.
>>86380757
Renly for Deebee
>>86378544
Tyrion
>OP
sage retard threads. lurk more.
>>86383459
Seem angy sir.
>>86381612
Was he ever cucked. Sam was so, it could be relivant.
CHARACTER
>>86378800
Because Sam is fat and useless, spent all his childhood reading, like GRRM did. He admits to being a coward, but gets applauded by Jon for it, with Jon saying that's brave of him. He also has the "fat pink mast" and is given a cute pity gf. He's also the one writing the story.
>>86378800
Because Sam has been fat all his life, but Robert was an absolute beast in his 20s. GRRM shits on Robert more and more as the story goes. It's painfully obvious that he views Robert as a highschool jock type of person, and desperately applies the "peaked in high school" fantasy to him that all losers cling to.
You can judge how GRRM views a lot of his characters this way. If they were shy, awkward or bookish or most especially fat as kids, he likes them. Examples
>Rhaegar: Bookish and smart until one day he read something that compelled him to be
>Daeron the Good: Shit at martial training (read gym) but more book smart and therefore morally superior to the jockish Daemon Blackfyre. Also described as portly.
>Garlan: 90% of his character can be summed up as "was fat when he was a kid." Most likely the kind of person GRRM wished he's grow up to be
>Ned: The Shy Wolf, bashful around girls. The way his marriage to Catelyn works out to be steady and happy after he was madly in love with another woman (Ashara Dayne) in his youth is a recurring theme in his work and is very obviously based on his own
>Jon: Awkward outsider, not as easy with girls as Robb. Smarter in their lessons with Luwin but supposedly not as good in combat
>Sam: Self-explanatory
>>86385533
Never finished Rhaegar
>read something that compelled him to begin training at arms
>>86378544
Yes, his death literally represents the death of the author. Read some Roland Barthes and then we can talk, pleb.
Clearly hotpie is the self insert
>>86384494
Also he is a cuck like GRRM, raising his girlfriends' son.
>>86385533
To be fair, that's not all self-inserting. GRRM is a pacifist that has a history of writing stories with an anti-war message. Making his most unambiguously good characters hate war is just a further projection of his values and usual themes.
>>86384434
INSERT
>>86386910
Is GRRM a duck? He seems more like a wizard.
Nope. His self inserts are Tyrion (idealized Gurm) and Sam (real Gurm)
>>86378544
>used to be the fiercest and strongest warrior to ever live
>handsome ladys man
>turned fat after achieving his life goals and mrrying the prettiest woman on earth
Fat Cunt wishes he could look back at a glorious past. His biggest achievement before making it as a meme author was buying the first ever comic con ticket
The insert is Bran, retards
>>86387593
>teehee silly boy we love dangerous bad boys
Money is on both of these cunts being in historically shit relationships being played by dudes again and again
manderly or sam are the self-inserts
>>86379661
he did it with sam
literally raising his wife's son
>>86379661
Who knows? Let's not judge, anon.
>>86381612
>>86384024
>>86386910
>>86387496
>>86390117
Didn't Robert Louis Stevenson raise his wife's son? He'll, the inspiration for Treasure Island came from a map he drew up for his stepson.
On that note, didn't Julius Caesar adopt Octavian aka Augustus as his stepson and make him his heir?
>>86390301
all cucks
>>86390301
People on 4chan will shout cuck to any instance of a man taking responsibility of a child that isn't biologically theirs even if the kid lost their biological father or were adopted.
>>86390408
>People on 4chan will shout cuck to any instance of a man taking responsibility of a child that isn't biologically theirs even if the kid lost their biological father or were adopted.
It's kinda sad actually. I wonder what normies in real life (Not on this website) think of a man raising a child that is not his.
>>86390301
>On that note, didn't Julius Caesar adopt Octavian aka Augustus as his stepson and make him his heir?
Octavian was his nephew. He declared him his son for succession purposes. It's in no way shape or form cuckery.
too true lmao
>>86378544
Does he eat toejam off his own foot?
>>86378544
Not at all. Now Sam.... a little bit.
>>86380757
Varys clearly
>>86378544
He was King Henry VIII you retard.
>>86391028
Augustus was a cuck though. He adopted his wife's son to be the next emperor, Tiberius.
>>86392718
That was only after his grandchildren Gaius, Lucius, and Agrippa Posthumous died though
>>86378544
>Gods I was a stronk!
>>86378544
No, Fat Rob and Ned were the only characters that made ASOIAF worth reading, it all fell apart after they died (and I don't mean within the plot as well)