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Fucking idiots STILL support her after this

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"I'm sure Cersi told you a lot about how evil I am but I am not here to kill anybody, now bendini or die."
I literally fucking paused the show to rage about this line. Do people STILL not get that she is just as evil as Cersi or her father? She rules by FEAR. Her followers support her because they're SCARED of what she will do them if they don't support her.
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Where is the bar video? I need to see if the hamplanets cheered when Tarly died.
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>I'm not here to be a murderer
>btw, if you don't bend the knee, I'll kill you all
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>>86352419
that's the point, supreme power slowly bends even those with best intentions, there's no such thing as a perfect ruler
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>>86352419
Relax, man. You're losing it.
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>>86352586
>>86352535
>>86352451
No no no no no!
She is a GOOD ruler! She's the breaker of chains! She wants to HELP people! By the way she has fucking DRAGONS so if you don't support her your a fucking moron she is literally the savior of the world
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Well, the former slaves like Missandei and the Unsullied probably do follow Dany because they believe in her. But her army of Dothraki was literally subdued through fear after she burned down their most holy place and killed all their leaders.A shame the show will never address that. Like a subplot about a Dothraki who misses his homeland and his way of life and doesn't want to die fighting in a foreign country in a war he has absolutely no stakes in.
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>>86352649
Actually remember that scene with Jon snow and the old man that follows him around and daenerys's black female maiden all standing on the long walkway when they even asked her "If you wanted to leave right now to go home, would she let you?" And she looked for a second like "wow you're right" but said that yes, she would be allowed to leave.
Every single person who supports her supports her out of fear, just like cersi and just like the mad king.
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>>86352419
>>86352645
giving them a choice is still better than torturing them in jail or being a dummy and let them go home, in war you have to use fear and intimidation to some degree
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>burning people alive or beheading them

so she's ISIS now?

bravo, DnD, bravo
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>>86352419

I don't know what she even wants with Westeros. Tarly was right, she's a foreigner who's never stepped a foot in the land, doesn't understand the customs.

She's claiming she wants to "break the wheel" for "the people", but as much as she talks like some sort of commie there's no evidence that she's done anything other than kill her enemies and establish herself as the new leader.

In fact, wealth concentration in essos after she killed off all the masters is probably a lot higher - because now she just has it all rather than all these low-level slavers.
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>>86353193
Are DnD subliminally showing us how ethnonationalism is better than socialism like Bioshock Infinite?
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>>86352419
>Surrender, thereby ceasing to be my enemy, and you'll be safe
>refuse I'll have to remove you
How is she any different to any other ruler?
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>>86353193
>killed off all the masters
She killed the head of each family who gave a slave child to be crucified.
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>>86353256
Other rulers don't kill those who don't support them. This does not mean they are killed for being enemies, but for not supporting them. There is a difference between not supporting someone and being someone's enemy.
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>>86353256

She didn't have to kill him and his son. Locking Dickon in a cellar would have made a lot of sense, she would have a potential ally for control of the reach if she could turn him.

Instead, she burned him.
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>>86353256
Who is she similar to?
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Honestly, people are being retardedly bent out of shape about this. Was she supposed to not kill the guys that would have just as quickly executed her or given her to Cersei to be tortured? She gave them a fair choice for their situation, surrender totally or die, because otherwise they would have kept fighting her.

They're involved in a war after all. There is no real justification for anyone to have the throne except the most powerful person. No one except for Jon has proven himself to be a truly fair and just ruler.
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>>86353637
Stalin
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>>86352419
Whats with this stupid bendini meme
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>>86353753
She literally wiped out an entire house. House Tully is no more. (Inb4 Sam. He was exiled and had his Tully name revoked by his dad) Know who did that just the episode prior? Cersi.
Why the fuck do you think Tyrion tried to save them? Because he knows what their death would imply.
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>>86352451
I hope that bar catches fire one night and all the fire exits are blocked and they all die holy fuck those people need to be removed from the gene pool
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>>86353998
those hipsters will have sex and reproduce and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>86353314
If you arent with me you are my enmy
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>>86352419
>I'm sure Cersi told you a lot about how evil I am but I am not here to kill anybody, now bendini or die


She's really going full Stalin/Mao isn't she. No wonder the left eats her shit right up. Cersei isn't better though, a fascist in her own right.


When will John destroy both these cunts?
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>>86353951
Tarly, the Tully's are Catelyn's family
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Stannis would have done the same.

Dany did nothing wrong.
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>>86354035
that isn't likely
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>>86354035
>and reproduce


Lol no, you can fill the bar to the top with aborted fetuses. They probably don't have an ounce of responsibility.
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>>86352419
Support her after what?
Letting Jon go before he pledged fealty to her, that was a stupid move. Unbelievable really, all of a sudden in a world of backstabbers, assassins, usurpers, rebels and warmongers she'll do something like that? Jon being an outright rebel himself btw

Bullshit. D&D went complete goy narrative, what a predictably dumb plebeian thing to do.

If you question her burning the Tarlys who swore they would be her enemies forever - period point blank.. then just kill yourself
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>>86354192
Not really he pardoned the stormlords fro their betrayal and was willing to let renly live
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>>86352419
>Your dynasty rules for 300 years
>Current queen has absolutely not the slighest right to the throne
>Nobles still side with her instead of you
>Defeat them
>Show them mercy and offer them their lives despite their treachery
>They refuse to acknowledge you as their ruler
>Kill them

Wow just like when her dad imprisoned an innocent noble and burned him for a laugh!
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WHEN THE FUCK ARE JON SNOW AND DANY GONNA FUCK? GOD DAMN IT JUST FUCK ALREADY? GOD DAMN IT

JUST
FUCK
ALREADY
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>>86353637
she is literally liu bei
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>>86353757
Not even Stalin was a horrible enough person to kill enemy generals that surrendered.
Many returned back to their familys in the 50s after some time in a POW camp.

So Dragoncunt is actually WORSE than Stalin.
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>>86354273
>was willing to let renly live

except renly refused his offer and stannis killed him??

did you even watch she show?
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>>86353253
Explain
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>>86354290
>>86354215

Are you people delusional?

Danny's claim to the throne is long gone, simply because Robert ended the Targs. The only "claim" she has is the fact that she has 3 dragons, a khalasar and the unsullied. Thats it.

She "liberated" slaves in Essos, but then wants to establish herself as the queen of Westeros, which has glorified slavery in the form of fiefs?

Get the fuck out of here.
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>>86354324
>Not even Stalin was a horrible enough person to kill enemy generals that surrendered.

nigger what? he killed his own generals for FUN
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>>86352419
>Supporting a group of rapists that wanna wreck havoc
Why?
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>>86353399
They actually address that: Danny refused it because if she offers imprisonment ALL of her enemies will take that option instead of becoming her slaves.

She would rather murder anyone who doesn't prostrate themselves to her and beg to be her underling.
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>>86352419
When did this bitch become so obsessed with bendini? Where did this come from?
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>>86354320
End of episode 7. It'll flash back and forth between Lyanna and Rhaegar fucking and Jon and Dany fucking.
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>>86354324
Our last president cut off a rebel generals head and had it flung into the ocean from a helicopter..
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Should have had Jorah tell her that Sam cured him so she would realize that she just roasted the family of someone who helped her
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>>86354444

She said that, it doesn't make sense. She doesn't have to imprison everyone - just young lords of great houses that won't bend the knee, and probably not for very long. If Dickon had watched his dad burn, I doubt he would have wanted to die too.
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>>86354215

The problem is that she killed a father and a son by burning them to death.

Even her father only burned one when he killed Ned's dad and brother.

Did you ignore the fact that Jaime gave Olenna Tyrell a chance at a respectful and dignified death? Daenerys gave them one of the worst possible deaths, which for a noble house is pretty unacceptable.
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>>86354395
>Are you people delusional?

Nope
Are you retarded?
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>>86354473
source?
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Tarly would rather support a queen who blew up a fucking church full of people for whom he was a bannerman at the time, he's a turncoat piece of shit. Also his reasoning is ridiculous. Of course Daenarys was raised elsewhere she would've been murdered by Robert, a guy YOU FUCKING FOUGHT AGAINST
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Honestly he'd be a muvh more likable character if she just outright admitted she wanted power instead of fellating herself over her supposed desire to do good. Goodwill doesn't make someone raise an army and go to conquer another land. She isn't acting out of altruism she's acting out of pride and a desire for power. She feels that she is owed Westeros and this is proven in the bend the knee scene. No matter how much she tries to dress it up to herself and others she will do whatever it takes to stake her claim to the throne. That sort of determination would be admirable if not for her hypocrisy. In a world full of unashamedly power hungry cunts who are fighting to preserve their power or gain more I don't understand why she has to be characterized as some lawful good savior. She and her fans just need to stop sniffing her farts and admit she, like the others, is in it for power.
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>>86354596
Tarly was loyal to the queen of Westeros. When Oleyna cast her support to a foreign invader, he could do nothing but what he did
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>>86352419
Not a big fan of hers, but she didnt do anything wrong except she should have behead them and not roast them alive.
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>>86354395
>300 year old dynasty
>Invalidaded by 20 years of pretenders
"no"
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>>86354295
How is Jon being a targ the most important bit of info in all of game of thrones?
fucking roasties
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>>86354512
>The problem is that she killed a father and a son by burning them to death.

That's not a problem, it's a solution to one that could cost her the campaign and one that would linger even after it's over

Do I have to post two pics of mayonnaise in a single thread?
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>>86354585
Some spaniard on youtube has been leaking detailed episode scene-by-scene descriptions for the entire season accurately before the episode airs.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C1sNW6BLdc

Part of the translation for it is that Bran is looking into the past at Sam's request to witness Rhaegar's annulment and marriage to Lyanna, while that flashback is going on it cuts to Dany and Jon having sex on a boat and back to R&L because symbolism or something.
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The stupidest fucking part of it all is the Dothraki following her blindly. We're lead to believe they're some kind of bad-ass, uncontrollable Mongols on steroids, yet they hang on to every word by this whimsical, aloof, naive little girl playing at queen. She's just a childish, vindictive, silly, special snowflake. No one would follow her in a realistic setting, especially not a people as belligerent and chaotic like the Dothraki.

And I'm so fucking tired of the phrase "bend the knee" it's like one of the writers saw the term in a book and thought it sounded super cool and now tries to hamfist it in as often as he can.
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>>86354741
fucking disgusting NO

NO

FUCKING NO

I WILL FUCKING NO
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>>86354723

The problem isn't so much the death, but the barbarity of how it was carried out.

A quick and painless death is usually afforded to enemies one respects. On the battlefield there's an argument for burning, but when they're captured it is just cruel to execute someone by burning when there's far more quicker ways to do it.
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>>86352419
Haven't yet seen the newest ep, but did ANYONE even said a word about all the food she fried last week? The food she apparently very much needed?
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>>86354872
I don't remember them bringing it up. Jon and Dany talk for a few minutes about the battle because Jon is sad, and even Jaime just says something like "Dothraki too strong"
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>>86354916

It's weird because nothing really proved the dothraki are too strong. DESU the Dothraki mowed down people that were on fire / broken up.
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>spend 6 seasons with her on the other side of the sea with a storyline that has pretty much no connection to the rest of the plot
>wins the war for Westeros in a montage over 2 episodes
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>>86354350
Yes it was different if stannis didnt do something renly would have killed him

Now if had the upper the hand like dragoncunt then he would have just imprison him if he didnt bend the knee
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Even my normie sister who is a super normie is getting sick of her.
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>>86354290
Question about this: who has the right to the throne, one of Bobby's cousins? I assume it defaults to Cersei since all the male members of Baratheon are dead, along with the previous kings wife (Margery)
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>>86354321
>Glorified bandit lord that clings to legitimacy based on their name
>Followers that rape and pillage to their hearts content
>Strategist that's one of the most popular characters
>Normies remember them for muh benevolence
Makes sense to me.
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>waaah what?? people get killed in war?? but they're white males like me :(

>I'm butthurt a woman is winning

christ can't you perpetually triggered fragile white males just fuck off already?
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>>86354706
Right of conquest, friendo.
Anyone is free to usurp the throne, but she has no right to the throne.

She currently has the same claim to the throne as Hotpie, only difference is she has the means to take it
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>>86354755
Might have something to do with the fact that she has 3 fucking dragons at her disposal.
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>>86354916
Welp.

>>86354969
>Dothraki only looked strong and a well managed and well trained Westerosi army could fight them off
Think the writers are smart enough to let that happen?
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I will forgive D&D their sins if they actually have Dany turn into a mad bitch then get put down like a dog by Jon or Tyrion.

But knowing them, yas queen will be queen of the iron throne in the end
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>>86354395
>Robert ended the Targs
Yet there are still Targs. Really makes you think.
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>>86355135
So much this. What is it about GOT that brings out the misogynist shitlords?
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>>86354473
It is played off as weird like Cersei and Jaime?
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>>86352419
It doesn't matter anyway, the spoilers are now fully confirmed as real. Next season she'll die in a magical explosion killing the Night King
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>>86354755
A good modern analogy is King Jong Un, all he has is family ties and the military. Daenerys has dragons, an army and a family name. No matter what stupid shit she does people will follow her.
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It's kinda funny how sloppy and nebulous her whole maxim has become.
>Join me to uh, fight all things that are uh, bad, like wealth inequality, yea, wealth inequality thats my thing now!
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>>86355253
Probably not, since they're unaware that they're engaging in incest.
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>>86355135
Cersei is fine as a leader
Sansa is not. Northerners would not follow her, they respect wisdom, stoicism and power. They want a leader strong and reliable. Not some random young girl that was a dumb shit only interested in beautiful dresses just a couple of months ago.
Dany is not. Retarded gay mongols would not follow her since they are chaotic and unruly. They would respect a leader that can 1v1 anyone, not a BENDINI DRACARIS.
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>>86355135
Don't they know it is the current year?
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>>86355288

They never gave her any real driving need. She tried to compare herself to Jon in this episode, who was doing "good things for his people", but her "people" aren't even in Westeros - All she brings is more war and death.
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>>86354860
>The problem isn't so much the death, but the barbarity

I think your parents need a password on their television. Disney, Nick and Cartoon Network is what you're used to
How you found your way into HBO with your delicate and juvenile sensibilities is a mystery. Just flip the channel if it's too gruesome for you

There are other shows that are better suited for someone like you, just make sure to check the rating
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>>86354860
to be fair dragonfire practically vaporizes you on direct hit, it's almost like being nuked rather than burned at the stake
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>>86353098

Yeah but this choice is like a robber telling you "Give me your wallet or I'll shoot you". Sure, the robber gave you a choice but you're not gonna embrace the robber for providing you with that choice.
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>>86352645
Ay first I was sceptical but all those titles convinced me.
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>>86352649
Isn't that the way the Dothraki do things though? If she didn't subjugate them they'd subjugate themselves.
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>>86355259
But there are no season 8 spoilers, the filming hasn't even begun
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>tfw your gf was cheering while Tallys were roasted
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Not being facetious: Why wasnt Gendry's return and reveal a bigger deal? Wouldnt Jon especially, and others be taken aback that Robert had a son who in some way now has a substantial claim to the throne? I get that he's a bastard but the most famous leaders in the world, those that are still alive, are a bastard and a queen that fucks her brother and produces children with him.
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>>86355393
sounds like you are not beating her enough
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i'm not danys biggest fan but at least this episode isn't claiming her violence as wholly righteous like it has in the past. Tirion pleads for mercy in the very scene and later he and varys directly draw comparison to her father. surely this is at least a step in the right direction.
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>>86355418
>dany's body double is hotter than her
wtf
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>>86354295
poor womenfolk just can't stop getting interrupted when they talk about steps and how many shits a man took, truly the most important reveal of all time
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>>86355418
Seems like Gendry really doesn't give a shit about being King so I guess no one else does
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>>86355326

Sorry you must have been too busy screeching "YAAASS KWEEN SLAYYY" at the TV to notice Tyrion's reaction to the execution and the following scene with him and Varys blatantly spelling out the problem with it.

I mean GoT is hardly subtle.

>>86355329

I suppose to counter that, in the episode before all the people who were caught in the dragon fire flailed around burning to death for a while. I mean it's probably something that'll be inconsistent in the show.
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>>86355312
>They would respect a leader that can 1v1 anyone, not a BENDINI DRACARIS.

God, this fucking place. They respect her because she's the only one that can control dragons, essentially the strongest weapon they've ever witnessed.

They probably overlooked her 1v1 skills because her dragons can solo armies.
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Jon is literally the rightful king, Gilly confirmed it this episode.
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>>86355135
Ummmm sorry sweetie but cersi is actually a good character who is well developed as a character. We know who she is, what she likes/dislikes and what her goals are.
Sansa and danny get all of 5 minutes screen time each episode and we're being told to believe they're somehow good leaders despite no experience whatsoever. We don't know much about them besides they want power. Hell, Sansa was lady of winter fell for all of 2 episodes and everyone already wants her instead of Jon and Danny somehow has an entire continent on her side despite being Kim Jong Un 2.0

*Sips tea*
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>>86355135
Nice tumblr meme.
Really fired up my ovens.
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>>86355585
>Dragons can solo armies
Then explain how one was almost killed by a single person on a single ballista.
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>>86354741
>tfw dragon aunt will never let u cum in her
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>>86355577
all the people didn't flail around, some did, but others were instantly turned into piles of ash, and in the execution scene you can see them falling apart after a few moments
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>>86354916
>>86354969
What pisses me off the most is the scene earlier in Season 1 where Jorah has to teach a Dothraki soldier that armor beats no armor and that point is later demonstrated when he takes a hit from those curved swords by the dothraki that attacks him and having it get stuck on his armor

The Dothraki aren't a fucking elite combat force, they're fucking sheep herders and village raiders. the fuck are they so hyped up for? Is it supposed to be a metaphor for the islamic invasion of europe? Arabs aren't even that organized or dedicated, I should know I am one
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>>86353193
>but as much as she talks like some sort of commie there's no evidence that she's done anything other than kill her enemies and establish herself as the new leader.

To be fair thats exactly what every commie in the real world did
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>>86355728

Because Drogon is still pretty much a baby dragon. Balerion was ~130 years old when Aegon rode him and conquered Westeros.
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>>86355587
>mfw dany learns this and her smug face turns into shock
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>>86355810

>muh dothraki are better than anyone
>muh unsullied are better than anyone
>muh dragons are better than anyone

I really hope the night's king kills them all and skullfucks daenery's corpse
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>>86355587

Why? Do targaryen's go to the oldest MALE heir? If it's just the oldest heir, then Dany is still the heir right, she's his aunt.
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>>86355971
Yes, Westeros is primogenitor
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>>86355971

Succession laws are oldest male, then if he dies but has legitimate male children it goes to the oldest of them.
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>>86355912
the dragons I get, but the unsullied are literally a bunch of men without testosterone. That's a handicap more than anything
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>>86355971
Targs are patriarchs, Jon is heir.
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>>86355912
>implying the most satisfying BTFO wouldn't be her dragons willingly choosing jon and leaving her
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>>86354755
this is the hung u p that SJWs dont seem to understand
the setting doesnt support the writing, the established facts dont support the writing

the writing is awful, unbelievable, and fan fic tier meme tier bullshit
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>>86355912

>not rooting for the Last Hero, Jon Targaryen, and his band of 6 good men

Only good thing to happen in this episode.
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>>86356106
Won't happen. Tumblr crowd would boycott the series if that happens.
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>I'm not here to kill you
>however I'm here to kill you
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>>86355912
>night king kill then raises danaerys as his mindless eternal fucktoy wife

I could fap to that
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>>86356234

muh dick
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>>86354290
her entire claim to the throne is that the targarians used to rule the 7 kingdoms, because they invaded despite no claim, won the fighting and people swore fealty to them.

the baratheons overthrew the targarians, despite no real claim to the thrown, won the fighting, then people swore fealty to them.

she's not the rightful queen. if Roberts successful rebellion didn't count then neither did the original targaryan invasion.

if the original invasion does grant legitimacy to the targarian line then that means succesfully overthrowing existing rulers makes you the legitimate ruler. in which case robert was the legitimate king.

no matter which way you cut it she is no more legitimate then anyone else with a big army.

acting like anyone who doesn't swear fealty is a rightfull vassel in rebelion and not an enemy combatant in an undecided war doesn't make it so.
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Reminder that her choice to burn them instead of beheading shows how evil she is.

A beheading is a quick, painless and relatively stressless death, since you don't see the sword coming.
Being burned alive is pure agony, for several minutes.
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>>86353314
>Other rulers don't kill those who don't support them

Congratulations! Youve just been nominated as most naive person ever.
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>>86356316

A huge hole in Martins world building is that westerns has no sort of legislature or council sort of body. Even in early medieval Europe, kingdoms had assemblies, Witans, and other quasi legislature that, when an invader came in to take a thrones by conquest, it would be ratified and made legal by the legislature, although it isn't like they ever had much of a choice.

In Westeros, the law seems like it is basically a free for all. There is no legal line of succession, there is just whoever has the biggest army.
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>>86353637
Pol Pot
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>>86354324
>Many returned back to their familys in the 50s after some time in a POW camp.

Not many returned back to their families and those that did were missing limbs or crippled due to years in siberian work camps.
*fixed
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>>86356362
>sereval minutes
well, they turned into ash in a matter of seconds. beheading is still better tho
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>>86354412
>for FUN
Not a tankie but you need to understand that at the time, half the military staff supported Stalin and the other half supported Trotsky.
The purges were first and foremost to avoid a civil war.

>>86356466
She didn't kill Tyrion, who is obviously well-read, so it doesn't work.
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>>86356316

I think her claim is that the Targarians conquered and united all the 7 kingdoms into one nation.
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>Arya has Faceless Men magic
>gets out-sneaked by Littlefinger
amazing
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>>86356415
Really? When's the last time Trump killed someone because they didn't vote for him?
When's the last time the queen of England killed someone for not supporting her?
When's the last time Justin Truduo killed someone?
Fuck off
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>>86356638
when's the last time trump tried to usurp the white house with his guerilla alt right troops?
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>>86356435
Seems to me the legality of rule is intrinsically connected to Kings landing and the iron throne itself. At least in the show. In the books the rebellion died with the Targs and Tywin tacking Roberts side. Dorne accepted because they had no choice
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>Lannisters literally tried to outright kill her with a ballista. Killed her first westerosi ally Olenna.

>b-but the white males should win or be given mercy waaaaahhhh

fucking lol. white males literally don't know how a story should work
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Randyl Tarly
>sides with Targaryen family after they burn 2 Starks alive
>sides with Cersei after she burns all but one of his liege lords alive
The guy obviously sides with whoever his burning people so why not side with Targaryen again?
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>>86355048
I'm not sure about the sow, but in the books assuming all the Baratheons were dead I believe house Lannister would be next due to some marriages a couple generations back. As Jamie is a kingsguard and cannot hold lands it would be Tyrion.
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So let's say the Dany wins the war. What is she going to do with her dothraki? Isn't their way life pillaging and raping?
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>>86356763
They'll all die in the coming winter. No experience, nomadic lifestyle and this winter is supposed to be the worst one ever.
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>>86353098
In medieval war times, it was generally better to capture nobles and ransom them/hold them until you won, because that way it would be a hell of a lot easier to keep their lands under control. Which, incidentally, is another reason why Sansa is such a fucking retard.

Mass noble executions rarely happened unless the ruler was paranoid or insane, which I suppose gets Dany coming and going.
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>>86356041
Their whole idea is that they never break line because they are empty husks that hold spears. Works well in Essos when where the Dothraki are even more retarded and charge right into spearwalls with light cavalary
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>>86353304
neither the books nor the show ever say that the families gave their own slave children, that is children. they probably just bought a bunch of them at the local markets.
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>>86356415
No actually they didn't. Trying to win over a population through fear has never worked once in history. Instead, what it usually does is inspire an insurgency. So if Dany wants to spend the rest of her life fighting rebels, she's on the right track.

The usual method for rulers is bribery (which is politics). If that doesn't work, taking hostages will. Dany should have taken Dickon hostage and released Randyl with the understanding that she'll mail him pieces of Dickon if he tries anything. Instead, she burned one of the best military strategists in Westeros (also a very respected lord) and his son. While some might fear her more because of this action, many more will hate her. Maybe even hate her enough to kill themselves if they have a chance of killing her (see dance of dragons for how dragonriders can fall to intrigue).
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>>86353926
To be quite honest, a lot of the dialogue on the show is hard to understand.
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>>86356638
Trump is not a ruler. He's a placeholder for voters sick of SJWs
The Queen is just for pomp and ceremony and not a ruler
Justin Trudeau is a faggot
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>>86356435
Probably the high septim bestoves the right to be king by the gods or something
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>>86355471
>dany's body double is hotter than her
she, look her up. She is a model in her own right and she has got a lot of super hot photos out on the net
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>>86354035
Doubt.

>Like OMG a career or a kid? What no thank you ewww
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>>86356699

Who makes the rules regarding succession and such though? Where is primogeniture legally enshrined? Surely the law isn't just made through the small council.
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>>86353193
>break the wheel
I really hate that analogy. So the wheel breaks, and then the wagon collapses and crushes everyone underneath. I guess that's what she's actually doing though, ruining everything.
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>>86356415
Remind me again, what did Theon do at Winterfell?
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>>86357172
You just summarized Communism.
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>>86352419
Normies don't support her op, their hero is Jon nowadays; only SJWs support YAAAAAS QUEEN
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>>86357283
Dany is going to kill all the non-peasants in the seven kingdoms (the kingdoms will then collapse into anarchy and form new nobility after her death).
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>>86356149
>Won't happen. Tumblr crowd would boycott the series if that happens.

It's already over next year. Who fucking cares? You can't boycott a dead show.
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>>86357283
Kek. She did sound like Castro, Lenin and Corbyn
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>>86357271
Theon burns 2 people alive
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>>86356543
No the purges where first and foremost to keep Stalin in absolute power. Him being a paranoid megalomaniac with a low regard for human life didnt ease the heavy handedness in the way the purges where done.
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President Kennedy had no problem ordering CIA to whack people. People loved him.
Clintons murder people right and left. People love them and almost put them back in the House.
People love a murderer as long as their not the ones being murdered.
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>>86355135
What's unrealistic (and rather annoying) is that Sansa is not a good ruler and should not have been accepted by the North.

Same with Dany, she's a Mary Sue at this point.
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>>86357673
Why does people hate Hitler, Stalin and Mao then?
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>>86352419
Haven't these pseudo-artsy cable shows, going back all the way to the Sopranos, always relied on puerile glorification of evil, violence, and antiheroes? I don't understand what's so surprising to you about fans of this show cheering a bad person.
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>>86357514
You are missing the point. Why was Theon at winterfell in the first place? Why was he there in s1?
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>>86357673
Only if they don't identify with the people getting killed. Human nature is funny that way.

The US goes out of its way to stop pictures of children killed by their bombs from going on mainstream media. Why? Because 99% of people can empathize with a child even if they politically support a war. Enough pictures come out and people will stop supporting the war.
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>>86354295
>woman drops a random factoid, with no context, amidst a sea of random factoids while her husband is clearly busy working on something else
>mad when she isn't given a cookie and a pat on the head
Literal children.
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I only support her because of the dragons who will be essential in the war for the dawn
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>>86353193
>but as much as she talks like some sort of commie
>commie
How is someone presenting as a queen a gommie ?
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>>86352451
Tarly betrayed the Reach. Fuck him.
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>>86354192

Stannis never claimed to be the good guy who fights against the baddys like Danny
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>>86355532
>Seems like Gendry really doesn't give a shit about being King
Neither did his father.

Gendry is gonna be the next King
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>>86357657
> keep Stalin in absolute power
Yes, because he believed there was a Trotskyite coup. Even after the war he saw Trotskyites everywhere.

>>86357283
>>86357396
>>86357499
Read a fucking book, how is a Queen communist, you morons.
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>>86356739
Because his house take pride in being boot lickers
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>>86354505
It would also have been great for Jon to know that his old buddy Sam has his shit together in a big way.
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>wants to fucking murder Jon in order to be queen
>Jon goes away like a retard to talk to Dany the insany making her queen
>complains that she has to do queen stuff
>somehow we have to sympathize
Jesus Christ, is every so called queen fucking retarded?
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Bar reactions when???
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>>86358053
>Jesus Christ, is every so called queen fucking retarded?
Yes, except for MAYBE Cersi, she's well developed, has experience and is doing quite well for herself.
Having said that, she's evil and I in no way am rooting for her or like her as a person, but, as a character she is one of the most well developed ones.
Danny and Sansa have literally no experience and people only support them because muh feminism.
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>>86358102

Later, im so fucking excited i cant wait. Im going to watch it while eating my dinner, then post memes on here about it.

I SWEAR TO GOD IF ANYONE MAKES A BURLINGTON BAR THREAD BEFORE ME I WILL LITERALLY END YOU
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>>86354713
1. It makes him the legitimate Targaryen heir, and rightful heir to the Iron Throne. This could make him either a vital ally to Dany or a huge threat to her rule.
2. His Targ blood might make the dragons more amenable to him. Hell, by the end of the series I'm betting he rides his own dragon (Rhaegon, because of his father.) (Also, the "Ice and Fire" theme.) A dragon would be probably the most useful thing available to fight the Army of the Dead, since fire kills wights, and can do so from a distance.
3. Being Dany's nephew might make it weird if they were to marry. I know the old Targs married close relatives, but I think most people are grossed out by Jaime and Cersei, so a close-relative marriage might work against them.
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>>86357900
>sides with Targaryen against Barratheon
>sides with Barratheon against Lannister
>sides with Lannister against Tyrell
My sides when he suddenly decides to stop betraying people and people think he is honourable.
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>>86352419
>bendini
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>>86355246
What Targs were there that weren't either run out of Westeros, sent to the Wall, or sent to become Maesters? Both of which make them ineligible for family, title, or inheritance.
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>BENGAZI JON
>I AM MY QUEEN MY SHORT STATURE PREVENTS YOU FROM NOTICING
>THEN YOU MUST BURN
>[Dragon Fire Noises]
>Credits

1 week time skip to next, next weeks episode

>Jon is undamaged in the flame
>Kills Dany and takes the dragons
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just want to chime in that the 'i'd have to imprison them all' argument is fucking retarded

She wouldn't have to imprison every soldier, just lords, sons of lords etc. This was done thousands of times in the middle ages, half the time knights only bothered to fucking fight each other to take princes ransom

Seriously it was almost never worth killing a royal unless they were very important because you could ransom them for a shit load of money that you could spend on your war effort, like men, materials and food (all things that i guess don't matter to the YASSS qween)
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>>86357713

But Sansa was rejected by the North although she has a perfect claim you mong
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>>86354295
Women really have it hard.
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>>86357880
Oath to Iron Throne > oath to liege lord, you fucking moron
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>>86358570
Just because Cersei sits on the throne does not make her legitimately queen by any standard.
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>>86358324
>sides with Targaryen against Barratheon
>loyal to liege lord and king
>sides with Barratheon against Lannister
>the honorable hand Ned Stark said Joffrey was a bastard and he was following his liege lords command
>sides with Lannister against Tyrell
>his liege lord (surviving liege lord anyway since Olenna was never his lord) declares for a foreign invader with an army of rapists and murders at her back. Not an easy choice.
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>>86358610
Lol.
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>>86352419
Cersei is literally the only character who makes sense now.

I'm on her team, until they invariably make her dumb again.
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Should I watch the show? I've read the books and I've heard that the show goes past Book 5 and then takes a nosedive in quality.

Any chance that the show deviates from the books to come? I'm wary about spoiling the series for myself.
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>>86357880
Reach broke before the spartans did.
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>>86358696
The show severely goes down in quality once they stopped taking after the books. It used to be shocking when someone died now someone dies every episode.
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>>86358733
>Objective: Survive
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>>86354395
Actually, even if you accept Robert as the rightful king, Dany and Jon are still the heirs to the throne because of how closely related House Baratheon and House Targaryen are.
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>>86354215
Tiny
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>>86357744
Because they lost
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>>86358610
This. Cercei is not the legit ruler of Westeros.
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>>86358795
Any chance that the show deviates from Winds of Winter's plot?
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>>86358798
>closely related
Barely related. It's widely acknowledged in universe that Roberts family claim was a farce and that he really won the Kingdoms by right of conquest (killing the previous monarch).
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How does Robert not have any Baratheon cousins?
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Yea this scene was just dumb. She never had anyone fight for her out fear, and this shit was completely out of character for her. They are trying to force this mad queen shit so hard.
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>>86352419
>Breaker of chains
Literally a slaver now.
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>>86358962
>They are trying to force this mad queen shit so hard
No you Fucking retard, they are trying to force this "in a good queen and leader" shit which is what idiot tumblrites believe because they're so fucking stupid they can't see she is just like her father.
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>>86356215
>Randyll holds Dickon's hand

Could've cried right there and then
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>>86352419
>Gained trust and respect of the unsullied and dothraki hordes
>Intends gain over Westerosi through fear (bend the knee or die)
And she intends to stay in power for how long until someone kills her?
And she thinks she'll stay in power for very long?
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>>86352419
>she is just as evil as Cersi
>cersei
>evil
tsk, stsk, stk anon
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>>86354295
Does this bitch actually think she's making a point about equality with this? Obviously if the way Gilly gave Sam these very important news had made them recognizable as such he would have listened to her.

Seriously, what would the chances of her dropping anything important while reciting random facts she doesn't understand herself be if this weren't a poorly written script?
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Both Queens are absolute cunts and I would move to Essos. But if I had to commit to one it would be Dany. She may burn you alive but at least you get a choice. Cersei would just kill you in your sleep.
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what was written on that paper Arya found?
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>>86355135
This comic really pisses me off, because it acts as though the viewers of this shitshow are misogynists for recognizing that the setting itself is too misogynist to allow women into positions of power so easily.
These are the same nobles that were using their daughters as disposable game pieces for their political aims a few seasons ago. And even if John were magically super progressive and really respected his sister, If he gave a woman a position of power in a society where his status is solely based on his honor he'd basically proving that he's weak and not worthy of respect. Those kinds of social dynamics don't just change over night because of some kind of crisis.
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>>86360434

it was a letter from s1 which sansa was forced to write saying ned is a traitor and robb should come bend the knee etc. etc.
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>>86356215
If Danny weren't an idiot she would have made an example of Randyll, denied Dickon a heroes death and made him a prisoner of war. She might have even been able to spin it into an act of kindness.
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>>86355971
Regardless, Jon is the heir. Daenerys was the sister of the previous heir (Rhaegar) who was Jon's father. When Rhaegar died it passed to Jon. Linear parent-child ties always take precedence over sibling ones, the same reason why Joffrey would have been the rightful heir of Robert if he were legitimate. If Jon died then it would go to his brother (he has none) and then to his aunt (Daenerys).
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>>86356415
is that why balon greyjoy and his entire family was executed when he rebelled against the crown

wait no
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>>86352419
Stark vs Lannisters knew how to take prisoners.
Well, most of the time.
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>People aangry at Dany because she killed a /literal who/
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>>86352419
Because they are democrats and this is how they think
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>>86355971
>Do targaryen's go to the oldest MALE heir?
Yes, you stupid nigger. Targ succession doesn't include women at all, Gendry has more of a right under Targ rules than Dany
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>>86352419
>Do people STILL not get that she is just as evil as Cersi

Things Dany would never do:
>Blow up the sept of baelor and kill loads of innocent people
>Have a gay and his sister imprisoned just because lolWitchProphecy
>Let her crazy son be a dickhead to everyone and do nothing about it
>Have an innocent family's pet be murdered for no reason

Conversely, things that Cersei would never do
>Genuinely care about the people
>Genuinely care about slaves
>Having empathy


Anti-DanyFags just hate good desu and cherry pick the little instances she has to hold them up and be like "LOL SEE SHE'S JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE"
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I wouldn't be surprised if they did the whole "Jon is immune to fire" thing and completely forgot that he burnt his hands on a lamp killing the wight in Castle Black.

Like how they conveniently forgot that they established that the Dothraki aren't worth shit against Westerosi armies in earlier seasons, then had Jaime claiming they'd beat any army in Westeros.
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>>86362108
The Dothraki vs Westerosi thing bounced back and forth nonstop. Bobby B was concerned because he knew the threat of the khalasars due to their numbers and bloodlust, but Eddy dismissed it because "muh boats". But then Jorah countered it later when the guy's blade couldn't go through his armor. I guess it depends if they have their horses or not.
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>>86355728
>Victory isn't 100% flawless
>Therefore it's not a victory
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>>86361567

BENDENIORDIE!!
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>>86356583
Exactly. There was no iron throne before the Targs.
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>>86353314
>Other rulers don't kill those who don't support them
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>>86354324
Stalin killed his family and anyone that got too close to knowing about his peasant childhood
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>I want people to follow me because they want to
>If you don't follow me I'll kill you with my dragon
Dany is going evil. Hopefully her plot armor will wear off soon.
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>>86352419
the dothraki are following her because they can rape some nice booty here
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>>86352419
t. drumpfkin

Cersei is worse
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>>86358896
maximum
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>>86356215
what a fucking CUNT
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>>86364985
well, the way this shit goes, she will be the queen at the end, because strong women
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>>86364744
We've surpassed using Harry Potter & Star Wars comparisons in Political discussion.

Jesus christ.
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>>86354713
You're just being retarded now.
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>>86365115
a mere thought of which infuriates me to heights unknown to man
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>>86356215
The series needs to end with Daenerys dead. Hopefully by Jon's or Jaime's hand.
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>>86365532
or gang raped to death by the dothrakis
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>>86356215
>im not beheading anyone
god i fucking hate her
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>>86352649
>But her army of Dothraki was literally subdued through fear after she burned down their most holy place and killed all their leaders

So she's literally Cersei? Cersei was even captured and imprisoned by the Faith like Dany was by the Dothraki.
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>>86361567
He was an honorable man. Normies forgot about that kind of thing when poor old Ned lost his head.
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>>86364088
Mate Robert pardoned most who fought against him after the war
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>>86366234
>i didnt behead anyone
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>>86366234
Lol
Because letting your enemies walk free and give them the chance to defeat you later is a sound war strategy
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#notalldothraki
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>>86358570
You are a fucking retard, feel free to set yourself on fire like your Tarly overlords. There is no oath to the iron throne when the person who sits to it has no legitimate claim to it at all. I know hating on "muh dragons" is becoming a meme around here but some of you people take the retardation to fucking far
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>>86366977
>walk free
>what is imprisonment
Danyfags scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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>>86356215
>people die on the battlefield because they are unsubordinate cunts
everything allright here I guess
>people die by dragon because they are still unsubordinate cunts
SHES GONE TO FAR THIS TIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>86354860
>there's far more quicker ways to do it.
What exactly is quicker than being reduced to ashes in .5 seconds by >2500°F dragon fire? They did not even have time to scream.
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>fat pink mast is now legitimate family heir
>next heir will be a wilding incest baby with no Tarly relation at all
Tarlys suffered truely something even worse than death this episode
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>>86367451
>fat pink mast is now legitimate family heir

he's a qt tho
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>>86355357
Yes, that is the way the Dothraki do things. Anything less and they would have just laughed at her.
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>>86352419
She could have said "those who refuse to bend the knee will see their houses suffer once the liberation of Westeros from false rulers is completed", while allowing houses who bent the knee to be given fair accommodation like status quo ante-bellum.
The Tarlys were fighting for Cersei because that's who was in charge when the war of the five kings started. Daenerys could at least acknowledge that by saying that an accounting of the actions of the great houses after the war could be made, but no, BURN THEM ALL!

The whole situation is an EUIV meme video waiting to happen.
>When you're in a war with an ally and they call you into a different war you can't win
Dany is Ottomans, Tyrion is France, Randall is Austria, Dickon Hungary or Bohemia, and the Lannister soldiers random HRE statelets. The dragon could be the Ottomans' military bonuses, and the Dothraki obviously the little Muslim states that ally with the Ottomans.
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>>86354295
>only makes a tangentially relevant point by accident in the midst of completely irrelevant babble

>>86367962
"When your ally calls you into a war you can't win and you let the AI make peace."
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>>86366693
THIS
H
I
S

Dany has no blood on her hands. A little ash, maybe, but no blood.
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>>86355418
I would be more interested in watching a cast full of normal and ugly people act their hearts out than watch Emilia Clarke cake on her accent and try to act.
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>>86359256
Scenes women will never understand.
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>>86367962
She's not enslaving them, and I doubt they'll be punished for anything after the war. She simply is not going to let Cersei loyalist soldiers go free to regroup and attack her again like they always do. As far as I can tell she's essentially saying "fight for me until the war is won, or fight and die for Cersei here and now."
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>>86367413
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>>86355418
>Jon especially
I think, why isn't Jon played as completely unimpressed with everything for being killed dead and brought back already?
Dandelion seems pretty detached from everything (other than his "mission").
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>>86361567
The literal whos make up Westeros. Dany is a barren cunt with three murder machines that let her kill anyone she wants. Take away the Targs and Westeros lives, but take away Westeros and the queen of ashes is worthless.
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>>86358570

If Tarly is a vassal to Tyrells he is a traitor, basically "Yours vassals vassal is not your vassal" rule. You don't give an oath to king if you're lord of one castle.
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I see a lot of 300lb beta kiss-less virgin white males in these threads making the most downright retarded "arguments", if one can even call it that.

Let's face it, if instead of Daenerys it was Viserys you faggots wouldn't have a fucking problem with the character. Sure, she does some some stupid things here and there, but for the most part she is a decent character.

Forget about rightful claims to the throne, in this world the right of conquest is what rules. Daenerys has a biggest army and 3 fucking dragons. She just kicked the shit out of the Lannister and Tarly army. She gets to dictate terms to Tarly and his men, and the fact that she even gave them a choice is a lot better than what other monarchs would do. Tarly was just too fucking stupid to not realize it. He put his "honor", which was alredy tarnished btw, ahead of his house. Dickon just followed like the loyal, dumb idiot that he was. Sam would've reminded his dad how retarded it would be to go up against dragons, as the last time that happened in recorded history it ended with House Gardener extinct and thousands dead.

Just bend the fucking knee. how hard is that?
What do you think Bronn would do?
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>>86367451
>>next heir will be a wilding incest baby with no Tarly relation at all
It's a bastard. Plus Jon and perhaps a few black bruthas will be able to testify the truth, as will Gilly.

>>86368285
>She simply is not going to let Cersei loyalist soldiers go free to regroup and attack her again like they always do.
POW camps are a thing. She was more merciful to the slavers than she was to the far more benign lords like the Tarlys. And the peasant footsoldiers are not going to rise up to fight for Cersei, obviously.
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>>86352586
This. Thats the whole point of her arc
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>>86368351
beric is unimpressed with everything because he lost literally all of his memories from before he was sent to go kill the mountain.
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>>86357019
>She is a model in her own right and she has got a lot of super hot photos out on the net
Why do I picture a 55 yo bald horny dude typing this shit out
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>>86367962
how retarded are you? They're at war. She's won the battle and she offered them to bend the knew and join her, which was already generous enough, or refuse and die for Cercei right then and there. Hmmm, live or die? decisions decisions.
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>>86364744
>Real news is Fake News
I guess the Dothraki are totally fine with just chilling out in Westeros.
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>>86368630
Being merciful to the slavers ended up almost getting her killed multiple times.
>are not going to rise up to fight for Cersei
But Randyll and Dickon would, and the peasant footsoldiers will rise up for them.
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>>86368610
I actually thought she was ok until she started to invade Westeros with a brown muslim fucking rape-horde. Viserys was always a peice of shit and I hated him.

t. not a kiss-less virgin
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>>86354035
>whites are disappearing because hipsters have so many babies
Learn how to logic
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>>86352419
>She rules by FEAR

>Declare war
>Kill people that were your friends once
>Get salty and all moralfag when you are on the receiving end

Western line of thought.
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>>86368737
Executing surrendering POW's would be considered a war crime, sweetie.
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>>86352645
spoken like a true stalinist
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>>86368630
>It's a bastard
Are you implying that Sam even cares? The kid will be legitimized as soon as it asks for it. I mean the king is literally his best friend
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>>86364744

>with no actual evidence

Raping, enslaving and burning villages was Dothraki culture up until Daenerys told them not to do it any more because it was super bad. This is known. We all saw it with our own eyes when we watched the show.
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>>86368866
>I seriously think the Geneva Convention exists in fantasy Medieval Europe
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>>86356638
America has the rule of law. England has the rule of law. Canada has the rule of law. The head of state or government cannot order executions.
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>>86368672
Still, I'd like to see a bigger impact having been killed and ressurrected to have on Jon psyche.
But whatever, the fact that no-one shittalked Dany for frying all the food she needed or the fact that, instead of keeping hostages/showing mercy, she opted in to burn people, but somehow doesn't want to fry Red Keep really starting to get on me nerves.
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>>86355135
>feminist comic promotes unrealistic body image and makes the females tits bigger and waistlines smaller
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>>86368866
So was the red wedding, and nobody gives a shit.

You win or you die, that's all there is to it.
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>86355135
>hrist can't you perpetually triggered fragile white males just fuck off already?
so this is what /tv/ has become
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>>86355336
>is like a robber telling you "Give me your wallet or I'll shoot you"

And then a robber being burned for being, well, a stupid nigger robber and refusing to fix damages peacefully and audience around screames that he dindu nuffin, was good boi and I am a fucking rayciss Hitler incarnate.
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>>86368610
Viserys wouldn't have gotten this far because he wasn't GRRM's sex fetish object or a feminist heroine, and lacked the accompanying plot armour.
>Sure, she does some some stupid things here and there, but for the most part she is a decent character.
Even if that were accepted as true, it doesn't make her treatment of the Tarlys right, and not a "stupid thing".
>in this world the right of conquest is what rules.
The amount of hoops you have to jump through! First it was "she's a good character", but challenge any of it and it's "MUH CONQUEST MUH DRAGONS".

>He put his "honor", which was alredy tarnished btw, ahead of his house.
>Just bend the fucking knee. how hard is that?
You types are physically incapable of understanding these concepts that make bit part characters like the Tarlys more admirable and emotional than Mary Sue. Pathetic!

>What do you think Bronn would do?
Bronn is a backstabbing, uneducated, honourless mercenary and criminal. He would be unprepared for a situation such as that, and that's the whole point of what social systems do and how they function!
The Tarlys, even if they destroyed themselves by refusing to accept the mad queen's insult, were not failures of the system but successes. Their murder was due to the ignorance and indeed evil of Daenerys, and her unpreparedness for how to deal with honourable men.
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>>86364744
These people are mentally ill. How can you possibly live life looking for a political message in its every facet?
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>>86368913
>i am not here to murder
>but if you don't follow my every command i will murder you

le ok sweetie

>>86369013
>So was the red wedding, and nobody gives a shit.
You mean to say people had a neutral opinion of the Boltons, Freys and Lannisters after that? Are you living under a rock?
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>>86356835
In medieval times, treason was VERY frowned upon.
I mean "hanged, drawn and quartered" type of frowned.
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>>86369121
no he's just watching the show
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>>86354395
>he thinks claims are strengthened or weakened by strictly upheld rules of succession
Claims are determined by power. Power is gained by selling your claims to parties that can provide money, men, arms or access. The actual eligibility is neither here nor there.
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>>86352419
I hope she dies, one of the worst characters I have seen in a long time. Its so clear to see without any material that the writers are the cucked unimaginative nu-male type.
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>>86369121
It's not murder to kill an enemy in war though.
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>>86368899
>Are you implying that Sam even cares?
The law of inheritance cares. Particularly when it isn't his son to begin with.
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>>86355135
>tumblr image
>redditspacing
I r8 this b8 8/8 m8 appreci8 it's gr8
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>>86367451
>Talla Tarly doesn't exist

retard
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>>86356500
>crippled due to years in siberian work camps.

Source on that.
In fact, they were treated way better than they deserved. That's why, by the way, we have so many SS veterans and shit in baltshit countries.
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>>86369314
KYS commie
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>>86354637
>I don't understand why she has to be characterized as some lawful good savior
She isn't. She perceives herself as one but the conversation between Varys and Tyrion clearly illustrate that she is not being written as one.

Even Cersie would describe herself as just and righteous.
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>>86354324
Would be better if he did.
These fags slowly worked on the collapse of the USSR and now bitch about "we dindu nuffin".

If you end up being the bloodthirsty monster raping and killing everyone on sight, you might as well actually embrace that shit and actually do it.
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Honestly I just dislike Dany because she's a cunt who only got as far she did due to magic bloodline shit or falling ass backwards into beneficial situations after fucking up time and time again. She's basically Naruto.
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>>86354395
>Killing the General of the army who obviously stated that he will remain loyal to the queen and already betrayed his liege lords is bad.

>Dashing some babys head because he is Targ and killing surviving children, chasing them around Essos is noble and based.

Mental gymnastics of you folks are truly astonishing.
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>implying they all don't rule by fear

Monarchy is inherently flawed and kings/queens will always have to resort to violence to stay in power. This is why democracy is patrician.
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>>86354324
>Not even Stalin was a horrible enough person to kill enemy generals that surrendered.

Vlasov would like a talk with you.
ХOPOШO BИCЯT!
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>>86369213
They were defeated and was forced to join her or die. Tyranny is wrong, sweetie.
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>>86354755
The Dothraki are superstitious backward horse fucking savages. Some chick with mad hair who climbs out of fires, rides dragons and fucked up their weird culty priests is gonna impress. They are not people of reason.
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Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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>>86369521
You're conveniently omitting the fact that they are enemy soldiers not commoner farmers. They signed up to fight and it's not something they can choose to revoke without consequences.
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>>86356730
>t. white american male
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>>86352419
Reminder that if this were in actual history she would have been raped and killed 100000 times by the sandnigs and never would have made it past season 2.
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>>86356215
>when dickon refuses bendinee
>that split second of pride in the old man's face
Worth it.
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As much as "moral ambiguity" is exalted, people will always see heroes and villains.
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>>86369709
>implying they weren't farmers from the beginning forced to fight

you do know conscription is a thing right, even in westeros?
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Fucking idiots STILL watch GoT
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>>86356638
Treason - until very recently punishable by death in all those countries.
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>>86368610
Lot of projection in that first paragraph.
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>>86356763
Like Ghengis Khan's Mongol armies that settled in or near occupied Chinese cities they will gradually grow soft and interbreed with the locals plus there really isn't that many of them.
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>>86369247
She's female you fucking moron, she might aswell not exist
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>>86370538
so was the former Lady of Bear island
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>>86361567
Westeros needs them broad shoulders and that jawline in it's gene pool. Danny fucked up - Little fat fuck Sam and his patchy beard will be sperming up a storm now.
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>>86366510
And sent assassins after children.
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>>86367300
You're trolling? She is in the wrong here. Tyrion presents the option of imprisonment and she chooses flashy execution.
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>>86370073
These are trained professional soldiers not conscripts. The way they mowed through Highgarden clearly illustrates this.
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>>86354706
>1000's years of multiple dynasties
>Ended for 300 years because some fuck had dragons
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>>86371081
This is fucking war not some kind of assault or thievery. They had all chances in the world to get out of this alive but they absolutely shat on it by insulting her, her hand and her forces. The exemple those two idiots made resulted in all of the survivors surrendering. Are you on the "muh dragon" hate train or just to fucking stupid to understand? She would have looked like a fucking twat if she wouldn't have executed them after what they said, would've lost all her credibility as a consequent ruler
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>>86356877
>If that doesn't work, taking hostages will

So tell me, how it worked for House Darklyn?
Or for Aerys Second, who took Jaime as a hostage to ensure Tywins loyalty? Or for Starks with Theon Greyjoy?

>Dany should have taken Dickon hostage and released Randyl with the understanding that she'll mail him pieces of Dickon if he tries anything

Yeah, and he suuuuurely would obey that instead of trying to get Dickon out of there and backstab the bitch.
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>>86357283
>It's another round of the "dumb russian peasants didn't understand that tzarcuck and his nobility were treating them like cattle and cannon fodder in their own interests.
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>>86369951
Holy fuck I just noticed that
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>>86357271
Theon was a hostage to Starks after failed rebellion.
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>>86356215
targshits and danyfags will defend this
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>>86357744

>Why does people hate Stalin

The ones that hate Stalin most, are the descendants of either the commies who were directly responsible for purging (Like Khruschev) or the intelligentsiya, whose favourite sport was writing anonymous letters to NKVD/KGB.
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>>86360980
Yeah, it was a wise move that ensured Greyjoys loyalty to Starks that cared for their son. Their help in fighting Lannisters was invalue...

Oh wait.
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>>86367257
>Imprisoning them and torturing is fine!

>Cremating them with dragonfire in 5 seconds is a brutal and evil, REEEEEEE
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