F ;_;

he was too pure for this world

It's too bad. He was great in Black Sails.

>>86329064
that's a big suit of armor

>the hard and stoic military man grabs his son's arm as he dies
>dany's advisers drink over the horror of the situation while she continues to be a cunt
mad queen confirmed

dang it billy bones

>>86329226
for you

>>86329145
no he wasn't

>>86331052
Say that to my face fucker not online see what happens

>>86329064
on the bright side, he probably didn't shit himself

It is kind of funny what she's doing. Tarly Sr... well, fuck him, but his son, that was a bit harsh. I can't imagine what excuses people are giving for having him killed. He was honorable. Exactly the kind of person she should be trying to save.

>>86331052
Well he was in the first two seasons

>>86331191
Makes you think about all the excuses Jaime gives for letting Cersei get away with killing Kevan, Lancel, and the Tyrell line which led to the death of her son. Hmmm really roasts my tarlys

>>86334082
kek

>>86331191
She would be saving a future rebel. Imprisoning is out of the question because of her rules. She can't send them to the Wall because she wasn't his queen. What else could she do?

I'm truly sorry for Dickon but he forced the Queen's hand.

>>86334082
weird how every criticism of the mad queen brings people like you out with your cersei whataboutisms

>>86334180
>Imprisoning is out of the question because of her rules
imprisoning is out of the question because she said so?
>She can't send them to the Wall because she wasn't his queen
she could have said "yes i am, so i can". in yielding to his claim that she isn't she looks foolish. if she says shes the queen she can act as a queen yes?
>What else could she do?
take him as a prisoner of war? what's he going to do in a cell?

>>86334180
maybe not burn a father and son like her batshit insane father did to the stark king and his son.
literally poetry

so did either of the tarlys ever talk about sam stealing heartsbane? I can't remember

>>86334180
>>86334340
Pretty much. Historically, nobles were taken prisoner and ransomed. Just because they fought against you doesn't mean they will eventually rebel. There are cases for both sides of the argument... and honestly, I would say there are probably more people who accept the knew king rather than attempt to rebel. Most people are not unreasonable, as long as the monarch stays true to whatever claims they made.

In short, she could have burned Tarly Sr, becasue he was old and it wouldn't serve any purpose to keep him alive, because Dickon would be the new lord, and he might be a bit more reasonable. Though it probably hurts relations a bit when you burn their family... but I think Dickon would have come around.

>>86329064
>>86329064
GODDAMN YOU FUCKING BITCH I HATE YOU

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>>86334340
>sam the cuck tarly will kill her with heartsbane to create lightbringer
OH MY GOD

>>86334420
no the writers forgot he did that

Pour a little out for Dickon. He was a soldier. I think by accident they made Chad a better person than anyone else on the show.

>>86329064
He was the alpha male westeros needed, but not the one it deserved

I was just thinking about how they show Lannister baggage trains and such, and also discuss how they are being backed by the Iron Bank and can afford the upkeep of an army... but they never really say how the Mad Queen can support two armies. Maybe she doesn't have to pay them or anything, but how the fuck does she feed them all?

>>86334536
In the medieval mindset, war is an action taken between private actors to settle legal disputes. Capturing and executing a noble from the enemy side is literally akin to murdering the prosecutor or defense attorney.

>>86329064
Jon will grant Sam the right to leave the Night's Watch. Sam Tarly now rules over his own house and kingdom.

>>86334998
>walkers dead
>wildlings pacified and loyal to Jon
why do we need a watch at the end?

dickon really stole the nutrients from sam in the womb, huh

>>86334875
Nah. Some offenses can't be forgiven. Tarly Sr showed he was unwilling to accept her as a Queen, therefore he should die, because clearly he would be a potential problem. Dickon only did it to be honorable, and prove to his father what kind of man he was, despite his father telling him to fuck off. It was a different situation.

Historically though, there are plenty of wars of conquest that had nothing to do with legal claim, and ransoms/executions based on a whim.

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>older sister cheered for this scene

>>86335214
those whitebois deserved it

>>86335058
We won't. Which is probably how Sam will get the Tarly kingdom.

>>86335058
The Night's Watch will become the Knight's Watch. Without a Royal Leadership, since Dany & Jon will "break the wheel", it will become a military of the people for the people. Each one trained to be Knights.
The wall will be left unimportant.
But the Frey's bridge-castle will instead become the new "Wall".

YAAAAAS KHALEESI

>>86335214
You told your sister what a stupid cunt she was, right? And then explained to her why she is stupid? And then told her to never breed? And then suck your dick?

Daenerys should've started murdering people to begin with. If she just sacked King's Landing at the beginning the war would already be over, and everyone could focus on the walker threat. It's just needlessly extending the plot.

>>86335214

Does she not understand honor?

>>86335340
The argument against sacking Kings Landing does have merit.

>>86335214
lick her pussy until she feels like she's going to pee herself

Tarly Sr was a mean old bodyshaming racist he deserved to die.

>>86334536
They were literally given the option to just kneel and live. They could have knelt and not only lived, but lived freely, not as prisoners.

>>86335080
>there are plenty of wars of conquest that had nothing to do with legal claim
Name one desu

>>86334180
>her rules
She makes up the rules. She could easily imprison every lord or their heir in westeros (no more than several hundred people). She just wanted to see them burn.

>>86335393
I was waiting for Tyrion to let it slip, Mad Queen.

>>86335393
what was it even again?
she doesn't want to take it by force?

>>86331191
almost like she's mad that the lannisters murdered babbies to try to prevent a future targaryan uprising due to their own greed for power.

REALLY BONKS THE NOGGIN

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>>86335475
Charlemagne and the start of the early middle ages. Numerous wars fought betwen christians, muslims and pagans in the middle east. Viking invasion of Rus and the foundation laid for the Tsars. Numerous incursians from steppe tribes.

>>86335473
>lived freely, not as prisoners
>you're free, but if you defy me I'll burn you alive with my dragon. This is totally freedom.

>>86335581
>mad at lannisters
>execute man who fought for your family in the last war
Nice rationalizations.

>>86335601
>obey me or be burned alive.
Literally terrorism.

>>86329064
too soon dickdon

>>86335599
> Numerous wars fought betwen christians, muslims and pagans in the middle east.
>Vikings
>Steppe Tribes
So non-medieval

>>86335497
yes she makes the rules and she made that one because she wants a free country, so?

>>86335540
She can't get people to accept a foreign conqueror that don't even care who she is if she is seen murdering thousands of people and takes it by force. She thinks she has a right to Westeros, and perhaps she does, but it's not a good step to make people like her. She did argue in favor of her ancestors doing it, but those were different times and obviously the start of those kingdoms.

Did you photoshop his head to look bigger OP?

>>86335585
I miss Oberyn

>>86335706
That is the Medieval age, dumb fuck. Funny how you ignored Charlemagne, though, who laid the foundation for the entirety of the Medieval age.

>stannis says bend the knee or die, everyone loves him.

>dany does it "she's gone MAD"

>>86335709
>having prison=nonfree country

>>86335706
Vikings were early middle ages. Steppe tribes were a constant threat throughout the middle ages.

>>86335709
She doesn't want a free country at all, she wants an absolute monarchy with herself at the top. Either she knows what she's doing with this hypocrisy or she has a really warped idea of freedom from spending her entire life with various brands of Essosi slavers.

Mance Rayder wanted a real free country and he didn't hesitate to take prisoners.

>>86335879
The vikings are not medieval yurop, they're pagan savages

>>86335817
Stannis didn't preface his threats with "btw I'm not here to murder". He was up front and honest: you knelt you died. Dany is trying to whitewash her bullshit like she's some kind of savior, something different from the rest. But she isn't. She's the same shit everyone else was.

I shit you not, when he chose to die my gf said "I don't get it, why doesn't he just bend the knee?".

Literally the "scenes women will never understand" meme come to life.

>>86335923
You mean to say feudal, the Vikings weren't feudal. The medieval era was the time period which includes Vikings, feudalism was the political mode of organization which doesn't include Vikings.

>>86335923
The viking age was the 8th - 11th centuries, that is the early middle ages of Europe. Are you perhaps retarded?

>>86335923
Charlemagne was before the Vikings. The Vikings were part of the early/middle ages.

>>86335960

she will cuck you, drop her and cut your losses while you can, you have been warned

>>86335960
No, it sounds like she is smarter than you. The way the show butchered Tarly's character made it so there was no logical reason for him not to bend the Knee. He threw away his honor when he betrayed the Tyrells, trying to make him seem honorable by defying Dany was nonsensical. He'd already abandoned his honor.

>>86335988
Vikings aren't Christian. You are retarded.

>>86336072
What the fuck does Christianity have to do with a time period you stupid shitstain?

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>>86335951

>up front and honest

>uses shadow poop baby to kill his own brother

Just say you don't like her cause she's a chick and let's move on

>>86336005
If you do that you'll never have a long term gf because barely any women understand this sort of thing.

>>86336072
>who is Harald Hadrada

>>86336072
Uh, they were converted. So, despite this having nothing to do with the argument, you're still wrong.

>>86336087

it's cute that you find that idea horrible at all, to live without long term gf

>>86336063
>You should just submit to foreign conquerors to save your own hide rather than fall on your sword
Woman detected.

>>86336072
A) what does that have to do with anything? Vikings were active during the middle ages, they are a part of that time period.
B) The vikings were converted to Christianity by the 11th century AD

>>86335960
Tarly already betrayed the Tyrells before, why not just do it again to Cersei? His character wasn't some "honorable alpha male". He was just an inconsistently written plot device for Dany, The Lannisters, and probably Sam.

Do people not care about Randyll? Just because he's old or what? I don't think he deserved death either.

>>86336146
He already submitted to the Lannisters who murdered his liege lord and most of his family. He's an honorless cur.

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>>86329064
Reminder

>>86336145
It's better than living your entire life without touching a woman for fear of getting "cucked".

>>86335951

Yeah dany is less honorable for burning to death soldiers who fought against him, then an innocent girl.

>>86336099
He had claim on the English throne. It was a war of conquest to secure his claim.
>>86336082
What the fuck does 1100s China have to do with "the medieval minset"? Clearly its referring to a Christian yuropean fuedal society.

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>>86336189
Lannisters aren't foreign though.

Besides falling on your sword is exactly how you reclaim your honor.

>>86336202

I didn't said that you should have not woman at all, just learn to get sex without relationships you beta cuck

>>86336146
>Cersei Lannister murders his Lord and most of House Tyrell
>switches to her side even though honor dictates he should continue to serve Olenna Tyrell
>agrees to betray Olenna purely out of self interest
>daughter of previous king shows up and demands obedience
>refuse because "sorry I'm already paid for" like this is some kind of honorable statement

>>86336189

Lannisters are like submitting to another roman family

Dothraki are like the fucking huns raiding your homeland

>>86336189
Olenna isn't his liegelord

>>86331191
They weren't honorable, they just finished sacking the castle of their liege lord, who they betrayed for a promotion.

>>86335706
Also forgot to mention the Magyars and the creation of Hungary. A lot of smaller kingdoms in Anatolia and upper Greece. Muslim invasions of Spain, and the Jimena's warring against each other.

>>86336246
The middle ages is a time period you stupid fuck. It has nothing to do with Christianity. The middle ages refers to a very broad range of dates from about the 7th century AD til the 15th century AD. You sound extremely uneducated about this topic.

>>86335960
>scenes women will never understand
No, I think she just burned the last interesting "grizzled old war vet" character and the show looks lame now without Tywin, Blackfish, Selmy, etc. I also think he did the right thing sending Sam to the wall. RIP

>>86336333
Olenna is the last living Tyrell, he owed his allegiance to her.

>>86336338
Also the slavic wars and such that formed Poland and Lithuania.

>>86336087
My wife cheered when he refused to bend the knee.
> settling for a roastie

>>86336257
>the chief value of relationships is physical sex and not the pursuit of love transient as it may be.
Are you gay? Because that's how gays think.

>>86335458
i hope your being sarcastic anon

She could have easily punished them both while still showing mercy. For example, Randyll Tarly prized his heir above all else. He'd have bent the knee if Dickon was a hostage. And even if he didn't, a few months of imprisonment can get the most honorable man to see things your way (ex: Ned).

She's just sadistic.

>>86336251
>muh foreigner
Dany is a Targaryen, her family ruled the Seven Kingdoms for centuries. She has better claim to the Throne than anyone. They are merely using her foreign armies as an excuse to rebel against her. The Tarly's have absolutely no reason to defy her since they already betrayed their lawful ruler once.

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>>86336194
The posts have the same tone/idea as "If you're not guilty, you should have nothing to fear :)" like some spooky "one of us" shit.

If you had a dragon, wouldn't you want to show that off and try bargaining or intimidation? Just flying in and burning everyone along with bringing horse-fuckers seems a little more deranged than some Stark cutting off one deserter's head.

I know it's gay fantasy but those are some strange and very popular opinions.

>>86336341
Calling anything "medieval" is specifically a christian, euro-centric historical context. When you talk about Japan, do you go "Well during the reign of Emperor Charles II, this japanese fishing village did this shit."? No, you talk about the Heian period.

>>86336370
>>86336283
Olenna isn't a Tyrell. They don't owe any fealty to her.

>>86336315
this, how could any Westerosi submit to a foreign queen with slaves, kinslayers and pillagers at her back?

>>86336472
>>Calling anything "medieval" is specifically a christian, euro-centric historical contex
No it isn't. You clearly know absolutely nothing about this topic.

>>86335776
no, he photoshopped it to make it look smaller

>>86336458
>The Tarly's have absolutely no reason to defy her since they already betrayed their lawful ruler once.
u got no self awareness have u whiteboy lmao

>>86336429

>implying putting sex before love isn't the most hetero thing ever. You 15 year old faggot

>>86336481
Her name is literally "Olenna Tyrell" you monkey.

>>86334180

Normies are so retarded that they think being a prisoner is the same as being a slave

I hope you know that you can also be a prisoner without letting you rot in a dungeon, you can be prisoner in a comfortable place too

>series tries to be realistic despiction and doesn't have basic things as this

>>86336334
No they turned on the Tyrells because they were supporting the Dragon Queen, who is a foreign invader bringing hundreds of thousands of murderers and rapists into their lands. Who based off previous reports, tends to deal harshly with the nobility.

Olenna probably would have seen the betrayal coming if she wasn't so wrapped up in revenge.

>>86336472
You're arguing just to argue now. No one said anything about Japan or China.

>>86336458
And the Targaryens are foreigners. Last I checked Valyria is in Essos.

>The Tarly's have absolutely no reason to defy her since they already betrayed their lawful ruler once.
Their lawful ruler is Cersei Lannister, the Queen. Not the now dead Lord Paramount's mother.

>>86336512
And Catelyn's Stark name was "Catelyn Stark" - yet she was a Tully.

>>86336547
>And the Targaryens are foreigners
So? Nobody seemed to have any problem with them ruling Westeros for over 300 years. Even after the dragons died and rebellion would've been possible, people were cool with it. It wasn't until the Mad King that people rebelled, and it had nothing to do with being "foreign". The foreigner bullshit is just an excuse.

>>86336283
He only betrayed Olenna after she decided to betray her country. Would you side with a president who was literally in the employ of a foreign government?

>>86336504
Degenerate. No better than a roastie.

>>86336504
No it's not. Historically that kind of promiscuity was the domain of gays and prostitutes, long-term relationships (hopefully for life) were for straight people.

You've just been drinking the Talmudvision's Kool-Aid.

>>86336613
>Nobody seemed to have any problem with them ruling Westeros for over 300 years
They literally fought and killed and expelled every known Targaryen from Westeros who wasn't in the citadel, watch, etc.

>>86336613

You don't get, the dothraki will literally RAPE everything once daeneries get into the throne, it's their fucking culture

the average guy is thinking on how to avoid that situation

>>86336614
>her country
Is is the Reach. She was acting in the best interest of the Reach. Tarly betrayed her because he was offered lordship over the Reach in the place of the Tyrells. Had he remained loyal he likely would have gotten the Reach anyway since the Tyrells were effectively dead as a family, yet he still chose to betray them.

>>86336186
poor old man he didn't deserve to die

if we're lucky sam will avenge both his father and brother

>>86336667
Olenna is not a Tyrell. She does not inherit the Tyrell's holdings or its vassals.

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Dany won't have to use her foreign army soon she'll have so many lannister defectors to throw at Cersei

>>86336194
I like how they call them "traitors" as if anyone who doesn't fight by her side is a traitor. They made their allegiance as soon as the war started.

>>86336660
Robert did that because of his butthurt over Lyana Stark. There was no unrest under the Targaryen rule until the Mad King.

>>86336072
>who is Leif Erikson

Read a book, nigger.

>>86336666
People change. At some point you weren't a retard, and now you are. Maybe some day you'll change again. It's human nature to adapt to your surroundings.

>>86336704
>Olenna is not a Tyrell
Her name is literally Olenna Tyrell.

Danyfags don't seem to understand honor and its relation to fealty. An honorable persons serves their lord well until they betray them (order your execution) or the common good (burn down the country). Olenna literally sided with a foreign invader who is importing hundreds of thousands of rapists into the country. Cersei is literally the lesser evil.

>>86335789
>>86335599
Charlemagne fought to reform the Roman Empire, and since he was crowned as Emperor by the Pope himself [albeit against Charlemagne's will, according to himself] he had the legal claim on the lands he sought to conquer.

>>86336613
>Even after the dragons died and rebellion would've been possible, people were cool with it.
True, but that doesn't change the fact that they should have.

Was the obvious throwback/reference to Aerys killing Neds dad and brother deliberate or am I giving D&D too much credit?

>>86336757
>should have
According to who? Idiots like you? They had no problem at all with it. The king's family was from a different land, but his family ruled justly so nobody minded.

>>86336752
>>86336512
>Tyrellmind
That's not how it works.

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>>86336614

Why not? Millions of americlaps did

>>86336755
Laws are only recognized by people who share the same laws, which the people who had come to live in the former Roman territories did not. It's not a legal claim because some idiot in a robe says so. It's legal when everyone acknowledges it.

>>86336830
Pic unrelated?

>>86336659

Who do you think all those prostitutes were for buddy?

>>86336667
His country is the Seven Kingdoms. Nobles swear oaths to their liege lord AND the monarch in the Seven Kingdoms. Usually, most lords will decide to serve their liege lord over the monarch but this isn't always the case (see the Rebellion). Olenna made that choice easy when she sided with foreign invaders who are certified rapists.

>>86336842
>It's not a legal claim because some idiot in a robe says so
It literally is.

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>>86336816
>According to who? Idiots like you?
Yes.

>The king's family was from a different land, but his family ruled justly so nobody minded.
>ruled justly
For who?
It seems to me that the law of the land in Westeros is the common Westerosi people getting shit on while nobles get away with murder. And that it has been this way for quite some time.

This is why they need native led theocratic communism. The High Sparrow is NazBol.

>>86336084
That makes no sense

>>86336896
Degenerates like you.

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"All this I will give you if you bow down and worship me."

Archetypes are powerful.

It made me proud to watch that scene. Probably my favorite scene this whole season. The most fitting end I could think of for brave Dickon. He died before his time.

>>86336825
That's exactly how it works. She married into the Tyrell family and took their name, and became a part of their family. That's how marriage works. How it's supposed to work. Cersei is considered an oddity for keeping her last name and not taking her husband's, she was too proud to become Cersei Baratheon and that's also why Joffrey's arms were a quartering of the Baratheon arms and Lannister arms.

But in pretty much all other instances the wife joins the husband's family. Catelyn Stark, not Catelyn Tully, and Olenna Tyrell, not Olenna Redwyne.

>>86336914
No.

>Lol we're Westerosi but we practice incest
>Lol we're Westerosi but we practice polygamy
>Lol we're Westerosi but we choose fire as our champion
>Lol wtf are you doing why are you killing us

Targaryens were a mistake.

>>86335473
scenes women will never understand

rip nickon

>>86336842
If the Emperor wants something, it's law under the feudal system. The lands he had legal claims to needed to be brought back into the fray according to said system. From Charlemagne's point of view, all the kingdoms that existed outside his lands but inside the Roman Empire's borders belonged to him and it didn't matter how they felt about it because as Emperor only Pope and God were above him.

DICKON'S ANCESTORS ARE SMILING UPON HIM. CAN YOU SAY THE SAME DWARF NIGGER?

>>86336917
>Yes.
You don't make the rules or decide what's right.

>For who?
Everyone? Most of the Targaryen rule was characterized by peace and stability. A few civil wars here and there, but overall the Seven Kingdoms were prosperous and peaceful, a good long stretch of time for both commoners and nobility. There's a reason it took an absolutely batshit insane murderous king to turn half the nobility against the Targaryens, because until then the benefits of their rule vastly outweighed any downsides.

>>86336976
No, that's literally not how it works. When a man dies, his son inherits everything. When he has no sons, his daughter inherits everything. When he has no children, his brother inherits anything. If has no living brothers and no dead brothers with children, his cousin inherits everything.

>>86336629

Enjoy your missionary sex purely for reproductive purposes

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This is the NYT average ratings.

Apparently Arya isn't an ugly troll?????

>>86336614
How is she betraying her country? Dany is the legal heir to the iron throne as Robert Baratheon's closest living relative. Cersei has no claim at all.

>>86336701
Sam's a cuck, he won't do jack shit

>>86337041
Negative.

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>>86337134

>>86337062
Tywin's rolling so hard in his grave he could be used as a wind turbine

>>86337096
Even that is still better than fucking whores

>>86337071
You should stop trying to act like an expert on something you know nothing about. There's numerous examples of women all over the Seven Kingdoms ruling their husband's holdings after their deaths either outright or as regents for their children.
>Lady Hornwood
>Lysa Arryn
>Cersei Lannister
>Lady Mormont
In the case of Lysa and Cersei they had children they were acting as regents for, in the case of Ladies Hornwood and Mormont they were ruling their holdings outright with no regency of any kind.

>>86336947

Don't kill yourself thinking about it summer fag

>>86337134
Dany is not legal heir to shit. The Targs lost all their claims after the Rebellion. Every half-assed lannister baratheon cousin would inherit over her. Hell, Gendry would be in front of her in the inheritance!
>feudalism is too hard meme

>>86337121
Nah. Notice NO women in the bottom half. People don't want to offend women (because mentally most women are teenagers).

>>86337256
You have no clue how feudalism works.

>>86336535
She's not a foreign invader, she's Tommen's heir by rights as Robert Baratheon's closest living trueborn relative.

>>86337205
>robert's grandfather's sister is still alive and well

>>86337067
>You don't make the rules or decide what's right.
Yes I do.

>Everyone?
Do you even read these books or watch this show?
There isn't any justice whatsoever, if you can pay for a good enough champion you're bulletproof from the law and if you can't then the local nobility are free to do whatever they like to you. The major theme of the universe is that the world is a fuck and it's always been a fuck, the GRRM's universe is explicitly a deconstruction of this kind of romanticism and you'd be a fool to take in-universe romanticism seriously.

>There's a reason it took an absolutely batshit insane murderous king to turn half the nobility against the Targaryens, because until then the benefits of their rule vastly outweighed any downsides.
Keyword, the nobility. The Targshits stayed in power because they kept the nobles happy (and even then some of them decided that maybe the Blackfyres were the rightful kings), it doesn't really have any bearing on what life was like for everyone else.

>>86337067
>peace and stability
>faith militant conflict
>dornish wars
>dance of dragons
>blackfyre rebellions
So peaceful.

>>86337232
No one gets upset over dumbshit on the internet lol

>>86336751

>people change

lmao people actually don't change at all, this is psychology 101

>>86337228
Mormont is the proper legal heir.
Lysa and Cersei were ruling as regents.
Hornwood is one of the north's problems. Her husband died fighting for Robb and all kinds of shit happens in the North afterwards, so everyone wants a piece of her lands and she has no claim to hold onto them.

>>86337256
Still a better claim than Cersei

>>86337348
I'm a lot different than I was 10 years ago. Of course you need to be willing to change. Some people aren't. Doesn't mean we are incapable of it.

>>86337406

I'm sure that you think you have changed but it's mostly superficial stuff, like getting fatter and old, culturally speaking you are the same nerd

>>86337134
Or, you know, his son? Gendry?

>>86337452
You know nothing about me, anon. But nice try.

>>86336084
Stannis and Mel literally told Renly to give up his claim or they'd kill him.

>>86337297
That annulement think Gilly found in the books shows that Jon Snow is actually a legitimate Targaryen heir to the throne, with him being the son of Rhaegar who was the heir of the Mad King. Jon Snow is the true king of Westeros.

>>86337491
Gendry has no rights as a bastard.

>>86337555
He could be legitimized by Royal Decree.

>>86337502

I know for certain that you are visiting here and you won't be leaving soon

Demographics don't lie so there is high probability you are either a nerd or a /fit/ nerd

>>86337630
Yes, but he never got one.

>>86337555
The original founder of House Baratheon was a bastard. And illegitimate bastards can still be claimants when succession is unclear, as it is when you're trying to make the case that some distant cousin 6,000,000 times removed who's only connection to house Baratheon is more legend than fact.

Not to mention Robert Baratheon's trueborn great uncle is still alive.

>>86337668
You can be legitimized by the king even if your father is dead.

In fact Jon Snow could probably legitimize him if he felt like it since he's a king now too.

>>86337683
A bastard who becomes a lord in his own right is not a bastard of his own house.

>>86337668
Any king could grant it at any time.

so like is the torrent out?

>>86329064
>Never got naked or took his armour off

What a waste.

>>86337728
The argument is Gendry should be King of the Iron Throne because he's Robert's son.

But he's not a legitimized bastard and no King of the Iron Throne ever gave him legitimization, so he has nothing.

Jon Snow is not a king because it has not been recognized by the Iron Throne or the High Septon.

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>Randyll Tarly supported Daenerys' father - a literal madman who burned people alive at whim - during Robert's Rebellion
>years later, he calls her out on her shit, and rightfully so
>she burns him, and the scion of his house, alive to prove a point
>people will continue to support Daenerys and her shit

>>86337772
yup

>>86334180
>What else could she do?
>Has not one, not two, FUCKING THREE, TRES, TROIS, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION CAPABLE OF SINGLE HANDEDLY SUBDUING ANY ARMY IN WESTEROS.
>Somehow thinks some 2bit green lord of the Reach is any real threat against her.
>Somehow thinks that the other randomly conscripted men of the Lannister Army are in any shape way or form capable of fighting against her.

The smart thing for her to do was offer them the choice to bend the knee or flee, and tell them if they fought against her on the field of battle again there would be 3 dragons instead of one.

>>86337750
He's still a bastard. He just got powerful to the point where it didn't matter anymore.

Likewise Jon Snow is still a bastard despite being a lord now. And even though he was an illegitimate bastard (supposedly) he still inherited over Ned Stark's trueborn daughters.

>>86336718
Is this bait?

>>86337121
Missunday higher than sansa.
Yea ok niggers

>>86337869
>he still inherited over Ned Stark's trueborn daughters
He didn't inherit the title of King in the North, the lords of the north swore allegiance directly to him.

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>>86334180
>Imprisoning is out of the question because of her rules
>literally murdering prisoners of war is somehow a reasonable alternative to throwing somebody in a dungeon
Fuck off, fag.

>>86337827
No one legitimized Jon Snow and he inherited after Robb Stark. Mainly because he took Winterfell from the Boltons by force of arms.

>Jon Snow is not a king because it has not been recognized by the Iron Throne or the High Septon.
And? It doesn't matter what Cersei or the High Septon thinks of it (and Jon Snow doesn't follow Faith of the Seven anyway, the High Septon has no power in the North), the fact is he rules in the North and they call him king.

>>86337922
It a quasi-elective ceremony not unlike the Kingsmoot. It's still a form of succession.

They just came to the consensus that they wanted Jon to be Robb's heir.

>>86337962
You're arguing that a rebel against the crown can declare someone else as the heir to the crown and then everyone under the crown just has to accept it. Not happening unless they really like the guy, or he conquers the throne.

I just want Cersei and Daenerys to die slow and painful deaths. Pretty please?

>>86337121
Dany
>Good
Tywin
>Evil and not neutral

>>86338049
I'm not saying they have to accept it. I'm saying Gendry is a perfectly suitable claimant, but it still remains that unless he can conquer the throne he'll always just be a claimant.

>>86337121
>Bran
>not beautiful
wtf?

I would absolutely crush his boipucci.

So what's endgame for the seven kingdoms?

Reach: Sam is given lordship of house Tarly and control of the Reach
Dorne:??????
Riverlands: Rad Lad Edmure in charge
Crownlands: Mad Queen/ Jon Targaryen
Vale: Sweetrobin with sir Preston of house Jacobs appointed as reagent until he comes of age
Iron Islands: Asha/Yara maybe, who knows
North: Jon or Salsa
Stormlands: Legitimized Gendy or Edric Storm

I imagine there won't be much left to rule over when the series ends, no matter who sits on the Iron Throne.

>>86338300

One world.
One people.
No kingdoms.
No borders.

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>>86338326

>>86338300
>Why would Tarly rule the reach? House Hightower is far more powerful.
>We don't talk about Dorne.
>Yes
>Least unlikely
>Probably
>I'd say a different house, but they won't bother with that shit, will they. Probably Yara, unfortunately.
>Yes
>Edric Storm doesn't exist in the show. Gendry is the most likely candidate.

This is all assuming most of Westeros isn't just a fucking wasteland at the end.

>>86334777
You can fault the show a lot of things. They definitely made Dickon sympathetic on purpose though, they aren't absolving Dany totally anymore

>>86337221
4chan conservatives are the dullest and most confusing creatures. Don't you have a post on r/TheRedPill to attend to?

>>86338300
pretty sure the seven kingdoms are going to split up and they're going to be ruled by a mish-mash of good guys and bad guys.

>>86336718

>There was no unrest under the Targaryen rule until the Mad King.

The show hasn't dwelt on this much but the books do. There was plenty of unrest under the Targs.

>>86338476
He's right, sex with whores is no fun at all.

>>86337121
>Daario, Jon and Greyworm more beautiful than Gendry

>>86338300
Bronn will get Dorne, so he can fuck bad pussies all day long.

>>86336472
Wow what a faggot. Medieval has nothing to do with Christianity. It's temporal and geographical not religious.

>when the father touch his arm before yas_slay_queen_rakarys

just a sad scene lad, feel bad because most of the sjw and nu-males can't understand this scene

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>>86338326
>mfw this is actually what's going to happen

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>>86337121
>Arya rated higher than Yara
Am I alone in thinking Yara is fit as fuck?

With Cersei revealing she's pregnant my last hopes for Jaime to get a fucking grip and end that hoe vanished.

I guess he'll continue and end his existence as a whipped dog. RIP Kingslayer.

>>86338683
They just want to make it EVEN MORE TRAGIC when he kills NOT ONLY HIS SISTER, HIS LOVER, BUT ALSO HIS CHILD. except I thought abortion wasn't murder and it isn't a human being yet I'm confused.

>>86338683
leaks say she miscarries
>>86338762
Life begins at a woman's convenience, don't you know?

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>>86338326

>>86335951
Also stannis was the actual heir and had no problem with fighting the real threat in the North

>>86338673
wouldnt say fit as fuck but she lowkey got that hot aunt thing goin on

I think you probably find her character attractive more than just her

So now it's official that Jon isn't just a bastard Targaryen but a fully legalized one, meaning he rather than Daenerys is the rightful heir of the Mad King.

Wonder what the dragon whore will think about that.

>>86338466

That's what they're probably trying for but normie Dany fans are completely blinkered in their devotion and she can do no wrong.

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>>86336973

Makes ya think.

>>86335417
Hawt.

>>86335214
My little sister was sad for them. She then claimed Dany is like her father no matter how much the show tries to say otherwise.

Imouto: 1
Oneesan: 0

>>86338973
I don't like Yara the character, but I think the actress is really pretty. She looks like a proper Anglo woman.

>>86337121

Seeing Elaria in the evil alignment really clonks my bonkers. Fuck you D&D.

>Everyone treats with Jon like he isn't a bastard usurper who betrayed all of his vows
Explain this.

>>86339008
Azor Jon will have to slay her when she chimps out, tempering Longclaw with her mad queen's blood, thus reforging Lightbringer. Drogon will piddle on her corpse before Jon mounts him and rides off into battle against the walkers.

>>86339262
He didn't betray his vows, he vowed to serve the Night's Watch until death and die at his post. He died at his post.

The fact that he came back afterwards doesn't mean he needs to keep going, he fulfilled his obligations.

>>86339332
But no one knows that.

>>86339345
Yeah I don't know why they're keeping it a secret.

I mean Beric Dondarrion flaunts it about like he's proud of it and no one has doubted him so far.

>>86337531
HOW THE FUCK WOULD THEY KNOW THAT RETARD

>>86339378
>Hey come help me fight the undead army
>Also I am undead. Don't worry though, I'm one o' the gudd'uns.

Why didn't Mel rez Stannis?

>>86339483
Bad writing.

>>86339461
They were reading a septon's journal who recorded everything. The question is if there was a secret annulment and wedding by a septon who recorded everything why hasn't this come out before now?

Where do Ironborn and R'hllor worshippers that join the Night's Watch take their vows?

I would assume Ironborn are sent to Eastwatch-by-the-Sea since they'd probably be more useful there.

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>>86339557

>>86338683
Eh, no worries. He leaves and she has a miscarriage.

>>86336194
Why did she have to burn them alive though?
Why did she have to burn them alive though?
Why did she have to burn them alive though?

Why did she have to burn them alive though?
Why did she have to burn them alive though?
Why did she have to burn them alive though?

>>86337121
>Shireen
>that low on the scale

Maximum triggered. She was too pure and beautiful for the world.

>>86336194
>doing your sworn duty to execute a deserter as is the duty of every noble lord, a position that you did not choose and were born into
>executing prisoners of war who fought bravely against you, despite overwhelming and seemingly impossible odds, just because they refuse to turncoat to your side
Apparently these two things are identical in the minds of plebs.

Does Euron have the horn?

>>86335378
>women
>honor
choose one

>>86339820
I choose Brienne of Tarth.

>>86339849
She's barely a woman.

>>86339849
Stole a valuable POW from the King of the North and supported a pretender over her rightful liege.

>>86339901
>barely
>not
choose one

>>86339813
Probably. They've built it up so that there's 3 unstoppable dragons to fight with no solution in sight to defeat them except some giant wooden crossbow.

>>86339992
The obvious solution is to kill Daenerys. With her gone the dragons will fuck off along with the unwashed savages.

>>86339992
Everybody is gonna come together to fight the nasty wights and become one united planet.

>>86339925
She didn't steal a POW, she swore herself to Catelyn Stark and Catelyn told her to do it. Then she went out to fulfil that oath by any means necessary even if it meant death. She never swore herself to the King in the North.

> and supported a pretender over her rightful liege.
She liked Renly better than she liked Stannis, what matters is that she was loyal to Renly even in death.

There's no inherent dishonour in supporting the wrong claimant. Barristan Selmy supported the mad king and Robert Baratheon still saw that he was an honourable man and a fine warrior so respected him as such.

>>86340076
Hopefully dany dies before then.

House White Walker will descend upon all these petty humans.

"If it ain't wight, it ain't right"

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>>86340089
>what matters is that she was loyal to Renly even in death.

Wrong.

How come we only see one dragon most of the time?
is the money really this low

>>86340149
If she wasn't she wouldn't have tried to behead Stannis after tracking him to the ass end of nowhere so she could avenge Renly.

>>86340155
Too much money pumping up Danys fat ass.

>>86340155
Because there's only one dragon rider.

When the Night King gets one and John gets his dragon license we might start to see multiple dragons.

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>>86340208
>John gets his dragon license

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rip pickle dickon ;-;

>>86340172
That's just shitty show writing. She hasn't even avenged him because Melly is still alive and is the one who not only gave Stannis the means but put the idea in his head.

She just gave Melly a mean look and sulked away.

>>86340178
Such waste, use the money wisely and let me pump that ass instead.

>>86340358
You can't expect Brienne to understand bizarre Asshai'i shadowbinder magic. All she knows is a shadow with the face of Stannis Baratheon killed Renly.

>>86340037
>kill the only thing keeping them in check
What happens when you kill their mother? And vice versa. Shit is going to go nuclear.

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>>86340429
So she looked at Stannis' weird mystic and figured she wasn't involved in the magic shadow monster. I guess I can concede the original point, but that's just more dumb implausibility. I hope they rectify it properly.

>>86334180
>behead randyll
>imprison dickon

>I'm against slavery!
>Fight for my army or die! Those are your only options!

>>86340440
A wild animal is less dangerous than a domesticated one in this case.

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>>86329145
holy shit i never even realised he was the guy that played billy.

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>I will burn lords alive so that two dozen ptsd ridden soldiers come to my side
The best move would have been to just release them all to spread the word.
Though if one would really think about it, she would have just fly over to Kings Landing make a light show and park her dragon and armies right infront of it until one weak later the mob presents Cersi on a spike.

Btw is one of her dragons female?

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>>86337121
>NK
>ugly
kek, NYT libtard readers jealous of these aesthetics

>>86342799
All dragons are hermaphroditic. That's where the whole non-gendered Valyrian rubbish the crammed in the show came from.

>>86342799
>>86343299
You know what would've been better than anything we got? If Chad Thunderdickon seduced Drogon and fucked it right in front of the Dothraki and effectively cucked Dany of her biggest, blackest dragon, leaving it a writhing uselessly like some sort of lewd serpent.

Bron would comment like he's impressed but still gonna make fun of his name or something.

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>>86337121
>Stannis not top right

DELET
E
L
E
T

>>86337121
>Dany
>Beautiful

lol

>Drogo
>not maximum evil

>Tytion's whore
>that high on the beauty ax

>>86335737
A little too late now for public relations I think.

Especially for that Dragon display to make the soldiers bend the knee out of fear and not of heroic inspiration.

>>86339323
>Jon mounts him
Thought this was going in a different direction desu.

>>86339049
Here's something that will REALLY make you think

>Revelation 22:16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

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>>86337121
>Roger Ebert looking Tyrell slut that high up
Stick her below hound, I can model a better looking face out of playdoh

>>86347954
Roger Ebert's dead, m8

>>86348367
Really? What happened?

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>>86348379
Cancer, complications from surgery probably

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>>86340089

"These pardoned lords would do well to reflect on that. Good men and true will fight for Joffrey, wrongly believing him the true king. A northman might even say the same of Robb Stark. But these lords who flocked to my brother's banners knew him for a usurper. They turned their backs on their rightful king for no better reason than dreams of power and glory, and I have marked them for what they are. Pardoned them, yes. Forgiven. But not forgotten."

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You people are ridiculous
>claim that you hate a show
>call showrunners "hacks"
>get triggered over posts like >>86334180
>get mad and start insulting each other when a fictional character kills another fictional character
>wahhh a person killed another person with a dragon
>OMG such a bitch that man who chose death didn't deserve to die wahhh
Virgins should be fucking exterminated

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>>86334611
>getting genuinely enraged at a fictional character

>>86335333
Autism

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>>86336614
>Would you side with a president who was literally in the employ of a foreign government?