>Marvel movies don't have good villai-

-ns.

>>86316145
why was yondu acting like merle from the walking dead? does he play himself in all his roles?
also baby groot was adorable

>>86316145

Yes, you're right. They haven't.

>don't have

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>>86316145
>Ego is the best Marvel villain yet
>then Vulture is even better
>they're ending the year with Hela
Can Marvel be stopped?

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>>86316145
Hey I murdered your mom btw LOL XD
dont betray me tho k thnx

>>86316389
The Vulture was solid, Ego was fucking awful.

>>86316145
he was good for marvel standards as in he had a slight hint of character. that's the most positive thing you can say about it

>Hey I'm gonna tell you I killed your mom lmao

i still don't understand his motives tho

>i was alone and loney so i searched for life
>found it and was disappointed
>so i will become the entire universe so i can become lonely again ???


i thought it was like a parasite thing but i really have no clue

>>86316405
why did he just blast her away instead of giving her cancer? you know a slow and agonizing death
he couldve just vaporized her and make her disappear

>>86316145
was that guy in hateful 8? looks like he was straight kidnapped from there

>>86316498
>that guy
Are you 12?

>>86316285
I don't remember Yondu going around calling aliens niggers?

>>86316145
Worst fucking twist in history.

>>86316145
Kurt playing villains is breaking my heart.

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How did they do that Robin Williams CGI better than Star Wars?

>>86316626
They mainly used make up actually.

>>86316518
no I'm an autist that has problems with names and faces, even with people I know personally. I know he looks familiar though and hateful 8 was my first association

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>>86316626
imagine having to work on a movie with your dead father

>>86316454
He wanted to remake the universe with celestial tier life so he could have buddies.
I don't know why he didn't just pick any of the unpopulated parts of the galaxy and start fresh though.

>>86316454
Celestials are fucking weird.

>>86316389

Hela is going to engorge my nether regions

>>86316145
>DUDE I WANT TO EXPAND LMAO
>DUDE I ALSO KILLED YOUR MOTHER FOR NO REASON LMAO

he wasn't

>>86316405
Yeah this old nigga was fucking retarded, he was far from being a good villain

>>86316145
He has a cave full of Quill's dead half-siblings.
That's rather dark.

>>86316809
I couldn't feel that with the sound of 50000 jokes and retro music

The best villains are the human ones: Darren Cross, Zemo, and Vulture.

Vulture is the mercenary bad guy; he's not out to conquer the world or wants revenge. He just wants riches so that he and his family are set for life. He knows that he has to lie under the radar while giving zero fucks about what kind of alien tech he releases in the black market. Everything he does is justified in his eyes because he just wants his family to live well. If Tony Stark can get away with being an arms dealer for years, why not him? In a way, it's a more black market version of the Ray Croc story in The Founder. Tony was the golden boy, the silver-spooned bastard that has everything handed down to him. Adrian wanted a taste of that kind of good life, thus he's committing high crimes for his pursuit of the American Dream.

Darren Cross is the deranged megalomaniac with serious dad issues. All those years, Darren waited for Hank Pym to reveal his secret as Ant-Man, tell him well done son, give his blessing to become the new Ant-Man and have Hope marry him...except none of this happens. Hank becomes a broken pedestal to Darren and he obsesses over proving his mentor wrong.
Of course he wants to make insane amount of cash AND be one of the most powerful men in the world with his Cross particles, but at his core, he wanted to seek Pym's approval. He couldn't get that so he decides to destroy his mentor's legacy as a final Fuck You.

Zemo is the most human of all. In a lot of ways, I can sympathize with the guy. His wife, his kid, and his dad got killed thanks to Ultron. And did we even see the Avengers do any kind of search-and-rescue? Or how Tony Stark didn't get charged for creating Ultron and indirectly contributing to mass murder? No because MCU Tony is Teflon-coated, he's the cool tech playboy that nobody really hates because he's hip and badass. His pain and rage makes Zemo think he can do anything he wants including murdering people that had nothing to do with Ultron.

But nobody watches Marvel movies for the writing, people only bring that up when something is outstandingly bad (like Iron Man 3). Marvel movies are all about the eye candy and they do that pretty damn well most of the time, so wasting your time expecting more than that is just a bad move.

>>86316875
>Zemo
lol no

>>86316145
Certainly a major improvement over the first GotG.

How come there are no Mary Sues in GotG? All the chicks do super badass stuff but it always comes off as believable, why is that?

>>86316872
> the sound of 50000 jokes and retro music
Are we talking about family guy now?

>>86316877
for eye candy, the action could be much better cut and edited. it's not so bad in GotG but it's a rather consistent flaw in marvel movies

>>86316145
Good fun movie. Anyone who hates it is just anti fanboying. Dunno why people can't just enjoy shit

>>86316389
I've already heard their idea of appropriate Hela dialogue. Personal hype levels: quite low.

Also, when did the Asgardians decide they were gods all of a sudden?

>Good villain
>Lol killed ya mom let's destroy the unverse I'm so evil XDD
Ego sucked. They should've kept J'son.

>>86316945
there is any mary sue in MCU/DCEU? All heroes are way to flawed imo

Just think of the feels that will come when they explore Rocket's backstory in the third one. Unless they drop that because there's already too many characters.

>>86316892
His plan was a bit far-fetched, but in actuality, it wasn't all that bad.

He framed Bucky because he knew Captain America would try and save his buddy. When Zemo found out about how Bucky murdered Tony's parents, it made his job all the more easier because it'd pit Cap against Tony.

Zemo knows he can't fight against the Avengers, but he can fuck them over in other ways.

In a meta sense, Zemo represents the average MCU civilian. Powerless when faced with the onslaught of superhuman brawls and how Tony never really pays for his fuck-ups.

>>86316519
no, but he should have

>>86316519
are you asking me to see if you remember?

>>86317014
fuck off Bendis

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So how come the robot prostitutes looked so robotic? They definitely have the technology to make them more 'real' since they even have moving ass cheeks and facial muscles, I checked.

Do you think it's because of robot fetishists, or is there an underlying moral theme where making robots lifelike is a line not to be crossed?

>>86316875
>Zemo

literally who?

>>86316389
Why did that woman that showed up in the post-credits scene of GotG 2 with Sylvester Stallone looked like Hela so much?

>>86317083
Zemo's "plan" relied on him knowing too many things he couldn't know without reading the script. It was the very essence of smartarded.

>>86317203
Who?

>>86316145
just watched it, what was going on with this movie, tonally it was a total mess, pacing and all that, really weird, also the jokes and humor were almost like a caricature of itself, borderline kindergarden extravaganza

>>86317205
it's so the audience knows they're robots

>>86317083
His plan "worked" because the script demanded it needed to work. None of it makes any sense if you actually stop and think about it, its just a series of conveniences that Zemo takes advantage of. That isn't compelling at all.

>In a meta sense, Zemo represents the average MCU civilian. Powerless when faced with the onslaught of superhuman brawls and how Tony never really pays for his fuck-ups.
Except that Zemo had ridiculous amounts of knowledge and influence in Civil War, so that comparison falls by the wayside.

>>86317232
That I agree was reaching too far. But that's why Zemo interrogated that ex-HYDRA member because he wanted info on Bucky's days as Winter Soldier. The footage of Howard and Maria's murder worked perfectly well with his plans to fuck over Bucky.

>>86316454
His name is a clue.

>>86317243
>Darren Cross
its based on COMIC books.. you know what the word comic is? these movies are meant for children

>>86317243
>tonally it was a total mess
I agree entirely. good for some people that can look past it, but tone is one of the absolute most important aspects of a movie. just one scene that plays awkwardly can ruin a whole film for me.

>>86317230
Michelle Yeoh?

>>86317266
Well that was underwhelming

>>86317193
Yes.

>>86316145
>discounnt Lebowski
>good

>>86316793
>DUDE I WANT TO EXPAND LMAO
He wanted to expand and create his own universe because he was disappointed with the life forms he found.
>DUDE I ALSO KILLED YOUR MOTHER FOR NO REASON LMAO
She was killed because she stood in the way of his reason of being aka his plan he loved her too much. Are you really this fucking stupid you can't follow the plot in fucking trash for children?

>>86316875
BEST MCU VILLAINS...

RED SKULL
EGO
VULTURE
DARREN CROSS
LOKI

!!!FACT!!!

>>86317273
He really doesn't have THAT much power. I agree that for plot convenience he relied too much on half-assing shit.

Zemo could've gotten his revenge easily and without killing innocent people, but simply leaking the footage of the Stark deaths online. That would've set Tony off over the edge and would hunt down Bucky with a passion with Steve trying to calm him down.

>>86316678
You dont need to lie anon, its quite obvious that you are to young to really know Kurt Russel, considering his past hollywod success had kinda faded away before tarantula brought him back into the spotlight

>>86317083
NO, RED SKULL SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE VILLAIN!!! HE ISN'T ABLE TO TAKE ON THE AVENGERS DIRECTLY SO HE TEARS THEM UP FROM WITHIN!!! ZEMO WAS A FUCKING ZERO!!!FACT!!!

>>86317441
>He really doesn't have THAT much power.
Physically, no. However he has ridiculous levels of manipulation, transportation and foresight that he employs in Civil War. He just kinda happens to fall into success which is really uninteresting for an antagonist.

Keep in mind I really hated Civil War so I'm biased against the movie.

>>86316454
in the comics Ego-prime wanted to fuse with all life to create a single being

>>86317421
I'm sort of proud I go to the theater multiple times a month and only know one of them

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>>86316875
>, Zemo

>>86317286
>The footage of Howard and Maria's murder worked perfectly well with his plans to fuck over Bucky.

YOU MEAN THAT FOOTAGE WHERE THE CAR CRASHES OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING NOWHERE AND YET HAS A VIDEO CAMERA SET UP TO RECORD IT!!! YEAH, NO, THAT SUCKED SHIT!!! ALSO, WHY DID ZEMO KILL THE OTHER SUPER SOLDIERS?!? HE'D HAVE HIS OWN ARMY IF HE KEPT THEM ALIVE!!! CIVIL WAR WAS FUCKING TRASH AND A PISS POOR END TO CAPS TRILOGY!!!FACT!!!

>>86316405
>>86316796
>His name is Ego
>"lol why did he think he could just do whatever he wanted thats dum lol"
Fucking retards.

>>86317526
The way I saw it, his average guy visage is what allowed him to pull off so much shit while staying under the radar

>>86316145
That's not a picture of Zemo...

>>86316427

How much of it was marvel writing and how much was Kurt Russell's performance?

>>86317631
The way I saw it, the lackluster script is what allowed him to pull off so much shit while staying under the radar.

>>86316145
that was just Kurt Russell being Kurt Russell
he can just fool you into thinking that's a good character with his charisma

>>86316145
Robin Williams?

>>86317526
I just think it's bullshit because the actual process wasn't really shown. Okay, for example you're Joe and your family got killed in a collateral fight because superheroes. Where the fuck do you go from there? How, as an average dude, do you come across the knowledge of super soldiers from a couple decades ago, or better yet, somehow know it will have a relevance to your purpose?

I mean I really like the idea of a mere civilian doing this much damage to a team of superheroes just because he set his mind to it, but man, that thought really hit me when he was able to walk in and out of that secure facility to interrogate Bucky like it was nothing more than a morning jog.

>>86316460
He genuinely loved her out of the billions he fucked, and remembered her more than the others. He knew she'd hinder his progress by making him have to keep returning to earth so he wanted to get rid of her. He didn't have it in him to simply destroy her so he made her fade away slowly.

The problem with it all is that her lifespan is nothing compared to his billion years so it was all pointless anyway and he could have waited what would have seemed 1 day to him

>>86318305
So why didn't he just take her with him? Who wouldn't jump at the chance to live in the paradise that is Planet Plissken? He's supposed to be selfish, remember? He's never experienced love before. A selfish motherfucker like that ain't shorting himself on his own happiness for a plan he can't even implement yet. He'll keep around a bug to help him sleep, but he won't keep the only woman he's ever loved? Fucking bullahit.

>>86320124
Not everyone is willing to just up and leave their family, their home town, and everything they've ever known to live on the other side of the galaxy with one guy on an otherwise empty planet.

>>86316405
He was so EGOtistical he thought he won Peter over and Peter was ready to devoid himself of all attachment to the Galaxy

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>>86316389
>>86317555
>>86317286
>this is the peak of Marvirgin cinema

>>86316460
Because he needed it Peter and if he came back he wouldn't have left

>>86316454
his fucking name nigga
EGO
His Ego is so big he wants to be butt buddies with himself

Ego was fine until it turned out he was just an asshole who wanted to kill everything else in the universe

>>86320467
it is not that his an asshole, he is like manhattan, he is so powerful he got disconnected with life, at the very least he made an effort and seemed to care about Starlord's mama
Maybe because he actually loved her, his god status passed to him

>>86316945
The highest grade cybernetic modifications in existence provided by Thanos on top of years of harsh combat training

>>86316145
he was a dogshit villain
he did a total 180 in character in terms of what he wanted to do
like what the fuck

kill yourself, pleb, that ending made me want to vomit and regret watching up to that point

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>>86316875
>muh poor family
>muh "mentor didn't love me"
>muh revenge

WOW BET IT TOOK THAT BOARDROOM A WHOLE 3 MINUTES TO COME UP WITH THOSE AMAZING MOTIVATIONS

>>86320301
And not everyone isn't either. Why's it got to be forever? We already know he can travel.

>>86317537
ins't that phoenix?

>>86320588
TFA has complete justification too, yet the execution is horrible

>>86316415
You cocksucker, ego was GOAT

Every single Marvel villain is either:

1) Obsessive dick who is jealous of the hero's powers;

2) Obsessive dick who is butthurt over something the hero was sorta-but-not-really responsible for; and/or

3) Space asshole who wants to conquer and/or kill everything

>>86317036
Tony Stark comes closest, since his 'flaws' are completely artificially-imposed plot devices that are either cured at a moment's notice or forgotten entirely and never brought up again.

>>86316145
as villains can go, it was a solid 5/10
still better than the previous shits we got

>>86321149
>TFA has complete justification
Not unless the fan theory that Rey is a lost Jedi trainee turns out to be true. She's an absolutely archetypal Sue if it isn't.

>>86321240
how it DC any better?

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>>86316389

>>86321422
Even if it turns out that she's the One, the personification of the Force and whatever else you can pull out of a hat, she will still come across as a Mary Sue at least in the first movie

>>86321444
Assuming you mean the DCEU, nobody said it was, you insecure retard.

>>86321586
calm down virgin.

>>86316389
God she's so fucking hot

>>86321726
Coming from the guy fighting company wars on a vietnamese crocheting website

>>86321759
look at that fucking nose

>>86321240
>who is Vulture

>>86321812
ok son, sit down before you hurt yourself.

>>86316145
The golden lady was a better villain.

>>86321840
an obsessive dick who is butthurt over something Tony Stark was sorta-but-not-really responsible for (i.e. being driven out of business because Stark's venture took over his clean-up operation)

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>>86322008
Would you say she was a.. PERFECT villain?

>>86321946
I hope you're not doing this for free, kiddo

>>86321240
Ayesha was a villain who quite justifiably (by her standards) wanted the Guardians dead. Rocket was absolutely responsible that that, so your analysis falls apart.

>>86322177
Yeah, no. She just wanted a disproportionately violent response to something that whilst technically the hero's fault did not merit the response. A minor variation on the second option.

Also, I was talking specifically about the villains. She was basically a comedy sideplot.

>>86316145
criminally underutilized

>>86316389
It's incredible what my penis will find attractive. Given any other role, Cate Blanchette does literally nothing for me. I find her completely unattractive, but add a little eye-shadow, black messy hair and tight leathery armor and I'm Diamonds.

>>86316145
>intergalactic chad
>bad villain
pick one and only one

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>>86322454
You are using a mighty narrow definition of 'villain'. If you limit it to mustache-twirlingly evil ones your analysis becomes a self-fulfulling prophecy.

Ronan, for example, didn't want to destroy 'everything'. He just had it in for Xandar. He was an out of control zealot, a soldier taking things too far. There are plenty of examples of this exact archetype in real, non-superhero movies. He's just active on a larger scale than the colonel from Apocalypse Now.

>>86322139
what ever makes you feel better nerd.

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>>86322799
Xandar was just his jumping-on point. He hated the cosmopolitan nature of their civilization. He'd feel the same about any other he found by simple virtue of it not being Kree.

He was basically a less complicated, less sympathetic Zod. He was also a fucking moron.

>>86323405
So was Zod. If he'd used the world engine to terraform Venus or Mars there would have been no conflict at all.

>>86316519
>he didn't watch the extended version with the Sam Raimi reshoots

>>86323805
Earth was the only suitable option. The world engine probably can't function on those planets.

>>86322799
"villain" in the sense that everyone normally understands the word - i.e. main antagonist. In the MCU's case, normally the one the protagonist has a big CGI final boss fight with at the end of each movie.

Ronan is perhaps the most generic example of the third type in the entire franchise. The whole race war thing is a throwaway bit of dialogue used to flimsily prop up yet another "space asshole wants to conquer things because reasons" motivation. The politics of Zandar have no bearing on the substance of the story - it's a forgettable CGI backdrop for the protagonists to briefly exchange quips in.

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Seeing good actors in capeshit and other shitty cartoon movies depresses me.
Fuck Hollywood.

>>86317205
It's a big universe, and I have a feeling they weren't visiting the high end robo-whore joint.

>>86323978
There is literally nothing suggesting this.

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>>86323978
>lets terraform a world that gives us super powers into one that doesn't
Why did krypton breed their soldiers to be mentally retarded?

>>86320812
You can belittle literally anything by just adding the word 'muh'. Doesn't make it a valid argument, honey.

>>86324108
The movie's already pretty fucking long, and the fact that they haven't settled on any other planets would seem to imply that the process wouldn't work anywhere else. Do the writers really have to autistically explain the parameters of how every single piece of alien tech works before you accept it as a sufficient basis for a movie whose sole value and main attraction is "strong aliens punch each other into buildings"?

>>86316145
Guardians is basically a PIXAR franchise

>>86324232
Not only are they extremely generic Hollywood villain motivations, they're minor variations on archetypes and motivations that have already been used for other MCU baddies.

>>86324229
Yep, I'd leave Earth the way it was and live like a God!!!FACT!!!

>>86316519

Well, it's there in the subtext I'm sure

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>>86324108
Oh, there's something to suggest it, all right. Know what those other planets don't have that earth does, besides an EMfield, copious amounts of water, and an active core? Biomass. When you think "rebuild," you think in human terms. Zod didn't. He could, and fully intended to rebuild "Rome" in a day.

>"A foundation has to be built on something."

>>86324928
>Biomass
You mean the one that would die instantly in kryptonian atmosphere? They show krypton in the beginning. It's a barren rock planet. The only life it has are the lizards Obi Wan rode in revenge of the sith, kryptonians, and silver dick AI technology.

>>86325096
Yeah, genius. That's why you "kryptoform." It's the efficient way to "re-allocate" Earth's biomass - turn it into a place that kills pretty much all terrestrial life, then you start cranking up those genesis chambers, which, incidentally, were also organic, like their tech and their buildings.

>>86325473
>"What happens to us?"
>"According to these readings, there won't *be* an 'us'."

>>86324229
They were trying to fit in!

>>86324229
this
also why the fuck the Krypton didn't exploit the yellow sun and got godlike power for galatic exploration, military expansion etc

the only reason I could think of is the old farts higher up thought those power is too risky or too destructive so let live like some generic scifi civilization guys
these dumb fuck jesus the lore is so stupid.

>>86326861
Because they didn't seem to exploit inhabited planets during their exploration phase, sort of like an enlightened civilization. The only dead colony we see appeared to be on a totally barren planet.

>>86316389
M-mommy

>>86316145
ns.

As much as I love this guy, his acting in GotG vol. 2 was cringeworthy. Yeah, good movie overall (inferior to the 1st), better villain than the first one though, but they went a bit oberboard with the father and son relationship in this one. It felt dull and forced for the most part of screen time.

>a guy comes from the sky claiming he's your dad
>you start hanging out with him and ditch your friends
>after years of space scavenging and dealing with the worst criminals in the galaxy, you didn't find anything suspicious about a random old man in a flying egg who owns a living planet
>Ego should be famous as fuck but Star Lord conveniently never heard of him

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>>86324229
except they had all the good aspects of supes' powers even with their kryptonian environment suits on. explain that shit.

>>86327392
He took many forms.

>>86316145
>>86327392
>As much as I love this guy, his acting in GotG vol. 2 was cringeworthy
>his acting in GotG vol. 2 was cringeworthy
His acting was fine, that doesn't seem to be your problem with the character.

I enjoyed this movie more than I thought I would, and thought the music selection was better than the first.

>>86327621
Because there's no one thing that makes them "super" here. The sunlight alone was amping them up even in their suits. Also, they were already used to far stronger gravity.

>>86327392
>>after years of space scavenging and dealing with the worst criminals in the galaxy, you didn't find anything suspicious about a random old man in a flying egg who owns a living planet
1) The universe is a big place, and 2) Yondu probably tried to hide Ego's existence from him for his own good.

>>86328565
>Yondu probably tried to hide Ego's existence from him for his own good

Well that worked out.

>>86322557
janitor, kelso.

>>86317205
I'm surprised they allowed this
Robo-hookers on a Marvel PG-13 movie?

>>86316181
fpbp

>>86316145
>it's a Marvel villain with a convoluted plan that relies on plot convenience episode

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>>86330254
It relied on lots and lots of patience. He's been trying to make another Celestial for centuries if not millenia or more. It came damn close to working, too. If Rocket and Yondu hadn't shown up it would have been game over.

>>86330430
That's the least of the coincidences. The biggest one, the one that's all but impossible to look past, is this:

Yondu, out of he alone knows how many "deliveries," develops a soft spot for Quill, who also just so happens to be the one child that Ego actually needs, the only one that's heir to his power.

That could have been solved with just a bit of forethought, by making it *not* be Yondu who abducted Quill in the first place. He's a fucking space pirate, after all, and I'd have less trouble believing he raided a trafficker, and it would get rid of the completely pointless "muh Ravager code" subplot.

>>86316145
I despise capeshit and Marvel with one exception...
I really enjoy Guardians as a fun summer sci fi comedy. I thought the second was way better than the first.

Please tell me they don't get mixed up with superhero shit and the like?
I barely follow the whole Thanos/Infinity stuff but I figure that's just easter eggs for the whole superhero side of the other movies.

>>86316389
That's the hottest I've ever seen Cate Blanchett. Could be because I love pale skin,dark hair and blue eyes.
That combination is true Atlantid phenotype.

>>86330430
>that scene
I was roaring with laughter.

>>86316145
The 2nd film felt so fucking off and inconsistent compared to the first one. Why was the writing horse shit in this one? It felt like they were all different characters excluding drax.

I cried at the whole Yondu scene.

I never cry at movies. I had to discreetly hide it but I wasn't alone.

>>86331030
>That could have been solved with just a bit of forethought, by making it *not* be Yondu who abducted Quill in the first place.
Is he fucking psychic? How the fuck would anyone anticipate that?

>>86332302
I wanted to be sad during that scene, but the movie wouldnt stop craking a joke for even a minute

>>86316389
Vulture wasn't a villain

>>86322526
I KNOW THAT FEEL!!! I WANT TO RIP HER LEATHER PANTS OPEN AND EAT HER CUNT AND ASSHOLE!!!FACT!!!

>>86331030
>Yondu, out of he alone knows how many "deliveries," develops a soft spot for Quill, who also just so happens to be the one child that Ego actually needs, the only one that's heir to his power.
It seemed more like he found out what was happening to Ego's children around the time that he grabbed Peter, not afterwards.

He was top notch until the reveal that he planted the cancer inside Quill's mother.

That was an absolutely retarded move and the only reason I'll remember him now is because I enjoyed the movie a lot and because he's fucking Kurt Rusell, who can be fun and charismatic in anything.

>>86332463
He damn well was. Illegal weapons sales, killing a henchman and then shrugging it off are just two of his crimes. He's at the very least guilty of negligent homicide.

>>86331030
It's not that Yondu developed a soft spot for Peter in particular, but it's actually that around that time he found out what Ego did to his children, and Yondu being a child slave himself, simply decided to take Peter under his wing instead of delivering him to his death.

>>86333222
Gee, it's almost like a character names EGO was so up his own asshole he didn't realize the probably reaction to the revelation. What a shocker.

>>86332392
It takes a layer of coincidence out of the mix. As it stands, Yondu agrees to deliver Ego's children to him, gets ousted from the Ravagers, and then he either spends some period of time making deliveries and just so happens to not deliver the one kid Ego needs, or even worse, Quill was his first, which would mean he just so happened to take the job, just so happened to strike "gold" on not only his first delivery, but also on the first heir to *ever* be born in millions of years, and just so happen to crawfish on the deal.

Or, he could have been some random pirate who hijacked a trafficker's ship who not only works for Ego, but was a juicy smuggling target that would catch a space pirate's eye. Going that route, Yondu never breaks their "code," so it never becomes a plot point, and we never get introduced to something as silly as bloodthirsty space pirates balking at the slave trade, but who'll gleefully haze and abuse a sentient baby tree.

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Why didn't Ego ever find Yondu, kill him and take Peter in by force?

>>86333610
They were space pirates. Their bread-and-butter was going around unseen.

Furthermore, he didn't want to kidnap anyone, he wanted them to come to him in good faith.

>>86316145
Ego was the cliche "I have to cleanse the world to make it perfect" archetype. Kury Russel did do a decent job of selling it though.

Best Marvel baddie so far has been Vulture though.

Steppenwolf, based on the trailers, sounds like he'll blow all of them out of the water.

>>86333690
Then why were they being kidnapped?

>>86316145
but he was awful

>>86318305
he didn't really love her, he didn't love any of them, it was a line he used with Peter to manipulate him

why doesn't anyone care about rocket and peter's fucking bullshit "well of course not" to what he said at the end.
what the fuck was that, they end the movie on him crying but don't give him any real talk from his "family" only instead from yondu.

>>86333690
>>86333610
>>86333804
Ego probably had a list of all the people he banged, give it to Yondu, and by the time he delivered X amount of people, he finally realized these people were never seen again.

Didn't mean they were all kids; for all we know, a bunch already grew up and were kidnapped, whereas Yondu picked up Quinn probably as a bargaining chip after ditching his deal.

Plus he was a skinny kid who could get in to tight places.

>>86333390
That's a poor explanation for such a retarded move.

It's fine that his ego made him believe that Peter was already unconditionally on his side, I can buy that, it makes sense.

But he's stated to be old and smart, and he's shown to actually understand Peter feelings, taking advantage of his father issues, so he must fucking realize how stupid his reveal was, and he even said it nonchalantly, so he looks even more dumb to the spectator.

>>86333921
"He didn't chase them away.
Even though he yelled at them,
and was always mean,
and stole batteries he didn't need."

"Well of course not."

That was Peter telling him that your friends won't abandon you even if you're a mean little shit. Because they're your friends and we put up with a lot for the sake of friendship. It was a way to tell Rocket that they were his friends without being patronizing about it.

>>86316145
but that flick was dogshit?

>>86334413
He's old. He's powerful. But smart? There's no indication he's any smarter than a human. He thought he had Peter under control and opened up to him. It didn't work out.

>>86317205
It's so clients don't feel bad when they abuse the robots

>>86316435

That scene was great though, how Quill just quickdaws and shoots the fuck out of him without hesitation.

>>86316145
as far as marvel films go they are getting very formulaic, even by their own formulas. GOTG2 was very sloppy, Ego felt like a character who needed 2 movies all to himself to fully do justice.

They did some cool scenes with him in the last half hour but he had a lot more they could've drawn from.

also what is everyone's obsession with yondu. i got the impression ravagers were supposed to be ruthless dirty space pirates, and in gotg2 they are all like straight from pirates of the carribbean instead

>>86334413
It would have been soooo much easier to either make it knowledge Quill gained through Cosmic Awareness, or they could have established early on that they were telepathically linked through the Light.

So many simple ways to do this that don't make Ego look like a complete dumbass, but hey, that would mean someone involved actually gave a shit.

>>86333921

It was Rocket telling Peter that he had more in common with Yondu than he'd realized. It was also Peter trying to be kind to Rocket, considering the circumstances. I mean the closing shot is Rocket crying at the funeral.

>>86316875
>people are praising vulture

fucking... what? did we see the same movie? he had about as much development as Shocker did in ASM2.

>>86316145
watched this last night how is it 10000x worse than the original

>>86316678
kys burden to society lookin ass

>>86317243
this

>>86332447

I was already sad when Yondu died, but then that fucking Cat Stevens song kicked in and I was a slobbering mess.

>>86316877
the benefit of MCU is that you can have stories spanning a shitload of different styles and genres, but still have them reference and carry on plotlines from previous films as well.

but in theory it's supposed to give each director freedom to tell stories within the marvel universe that don't have to be of the same style, just work around a pre-established timeline.

so you can have character study films like Ant-Man and big dumb action movies like GOTG and those can exist in the same world.

you are right that in the end it's always about the spectacle though. i know by the end of GOTG i found myself being excited for the day when the guardians finally begin interacting with the rest of the MCU. that's another one of the appealing angles of a shared universe

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>>86316145

>>86335020
I watched it for the first time the other day and thought it was much better than the original. I fucking hated the original.

I was kinda sad that Ego died.
I agree with them killing him, only way to be sure, but shame that such a unique creature is extinct.

>>86316678
Idris Elba

>introduce good movie villain
>kill him
MCU will surely last for 50 years, maybe even 100.

>>86335734
kept the gold lady alive at least

>>86327621
BRRAAAAAAAPPPP

so this is finally out as a torrent now eh

What's the verdict then /tv/? Is it better or worse than the first one?

>>86337577

I liked Vol. 2 more. Ego was a much better villain that Ronan, and splitting up the group brought out some neat stuff - particularly all of the wild space shit that Rocket, Yondu and Groot did.

>>86335238
That's all well and good, but they've really assed the job of setting things up in terms of continuity.

Never stop to consider what it means that earth-based sorcery has always been a thing, especially when you consider how they describe their role in the world and how little sense it makes that some sorcerer, hell, the incredibly old Ancient One, for that matter, who should have already taken the Space Stone out of circulation before there was a HYDRA to find it.

>>86337836
Dr Strange in general was kind of flubbed, the entire movie existed solely to have the awesome ending sequence of him striking the bargain with dormammu.

>>86337577
First one was better. This one's all the most annoying things from the first one cranked to eleven. Pacing leaves a lot to be desired, too.

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>>86321362
>tfw MCU has completely abandoned the alcoholic angle of Tony that was central to his characterization in the comics, just because alcoholism isn't marketable

>>86316920
I thought the first one was better, a lot of the jokes in GOTG2 sucked also, they gave every good line to Drax almost exclusively.

>>86316181
this

>>86316181
fpbp

>>86317205
that framed walrus wat

>>86338365
>>86338393
Things that make you go hmm

>>86324229
i thought it was the sun that gave them superpwoers