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>Marvel has bad cinematography-

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>Marvel has bad cinematography-
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wow it's an actor sitting in front of a green screen
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>>86258616
Empty balanced pretty pictures does not equate "good" cinematography.
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>>86258616

You're supposed to cut off in the middle of the word not put a dash on the end of it you fucking dolt.
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>>86259076
But then people wouldn't know what word it is.
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>>86259165
Really nigger?
>cinematogra-
>picture of a movie next to it
People won't figure out what you're talking about?
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>>86259165

It should have been:

>Marvel has bad cinematog-

You can tell what the word is and it fits the structure of the meme.
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>>86259192
>>86259236
What if they mistake it for "cinematographers" or "cinematographistry"?
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I couldn't fall asleep tonight so I put on Captain America: Civil War. I was asleep in no time.
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why not just type marv- if it is so easy to figure out the rest of the text fucking summerfags leave this board
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>>86258616
>videogame CGI background
woah
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>>86259323
>putting on the third movie in a trilogy without having seen the others
What idiot does this?
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>M- h- b- c-
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>>86258781
>>86259409
>I praise CGI in all sorts of non-comic book movies but the moment Marvel does it it's suddenly not okay.
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>>86259427
>that giant pole in the middle of the pillars

it's fucking rank
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>>86259444
That's the Washington Monument you filthy chav.
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>>86259466
looks shit
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>>86258874
This, cinematography isn't just pretty frames.

The visual narrative is the most important aspect.
Quality cinematography isn't just pretty pictures but actually telling the story using visual narrative through framing and composition and the performances.
So the context is important, you can't judge it by a screenshot alone.

There is technically bad cinematography, like too strong obvious night scene lighting or breaking the 180 rule for no reason.
And there is bad cinematography because of the lack of actual substance, empty pretty pictures which only fill the form without actually using framing and composition to propell the visual narrative.
And I think the second one is a bigger problem in today's industry because everyone can learn basic photography and produce balanced well framed pictures, but it takes talent/vision to be able to actually tell the story through the visuals.

End of blog post, carry on
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>>86259497
So's your sense of fashion.
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>>86259510
nah
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>>86259518
Yeah bruv.
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>>86259526
not even english champ

sorry I don't like your shitty little post
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>>86259510
you're*
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>>86259594
you are*
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Pretty sure op has no idea what cinematography means
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>>86258616
pretty pictures != cinematography

but actually the reason every marvel film looks and sounds the same and is made with minimal artistic effort is because they are as much art as a whopper represents coocking. its just a product you are chimping or pretendchimping out about and you should honestly stop
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Yeah the camera guy did a good job shooting that giant green screen.
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Marvel has good cinematogra-

https://youtu.be/hpWYtXtmEFQ?t=39
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>>86259676
>>86259711
Explain what cinematography is.
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>>86259624
>>86259596
>>86259564
>>86259538
This is the movie equivalent of kitschy overrendered fantasy card game illustrations.
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Why did I bump this thread? It should have slid into oblivion.
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>>86259777
It means a guy chooses the way the scenes are shot, focused and framed.

Not a team of CGI people animating on their computers all week long.
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>>86259777
The study or art of using camera postioning and framing to convey something
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>>86259783
>kitschy overrendered fantasy card game illustrations.
Literally no idea what you're even describing.
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>>86258616
That's CGI not cinematography
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>>86259859
overrendered illustrations made by someone called kitschy for fantasy card games if I had to guess
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>>86258616
>pretty colors = cinematography
it isn't even following the rule of thirds
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that is cgi retard not cinematography
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>>86259887
If he doesn't provide a picture I doubt it exists.
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>>86259427
oh wow
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>>86259624
This hurts my eyes. The contrast is set up to 11. Turn it down for fucks sake.
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>>86258616
>>86259538
>>86259564
>>86259596
>>86259624
Wow, a bunch of Windows backgrounds. Get on Cimino's level
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>>86258616
WOW BLUE AND ORANGE
KINO ????
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>>86259921
What are you trying to say with this?
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>>86259986
the horizon line, dumbass
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>>86259947
Better than DC's gray and...uh... gray.
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>>86260023
?
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>>86260043
actually no, it's as cliché and tired
it's like having to choose between the bubonic plague and cholera, just fuck off already
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>>86260079
you can't be this dumb
why are you even in a cinematography thread?
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>>86259508
Nonsense. You can make up a any bullshit narrative for OP's pic and it would fit 90% of the time. You fell for the kino meme. that's ok tho, happened to us all
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>>86259777
Look here >>86259508
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>>86258616

Marvel is kino
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>>86260221

this movie actually had an oscar winner cinematographer
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>>86258616
That's a screensaver, not good cinematography
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>>86260196
What that post is saying that you can't argue what's "good cinematography" on a 3 second clip or a few screenshots alone, that context matters.
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>>86260146
Just explain it instead of being a smug asshole.
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>>86260221
That's great, people should do images like that for more Marvel movies.
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>>86259864
>>86259916
You still have to frame and compose a shot just like in real life with CGI you absolute turboautists, you're even more retarded than OP
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>pretty cgi vistas
>good cinematography

literally just watch that every frame a painting vid about Avengers and Kurosawa and you see the difference between good cinematography and marvel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaQC-S8de8

yeah lol i just linked a every frame a reddit vid to /tv/ but its a really good vid
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>>86260339
What's wrong with EFAP? Don't let the shitposters get you down.
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Marvel is television
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>>86260407
>inb4 a bunch of /pol/ leeches start posting twitter screencaps of his profile about some surface-level politics like that even changes anything about the quality of his channel
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>>86260431
>/tv/ - Television and Film
Don't see a problem.
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>>86260407
>What's wrong with EFAP

he doesn't up frequent enough
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>>86258781
>I don't know composition: the comment
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>>86260431
Television looks better than Marvel now
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Sort of related, but does anyone know how they film those top down shots of the city where they're flying over them? I really like those and they're usually so smooth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHVbbcHWX4k
Like the part at 2:08 in this.
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>>86260615
Also is there a name for what it is that I'm talking about?
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>>86260615
helicopters
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>>86260615
with an expensive camera attached to the bottom of a helicopter?????
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>>86260564
Yeah Game of Thrones is definitely more cinematic than Marvel now. Marvel cinematography puts me to sleep. It's such a waste of a comic book setting.
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>>86260726
What's up with Catwoman? She dressed like she's a huge fan of BDSM.
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>>86260818
she's a huge fan of BDSM
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>>86258616
You said all there is to say, OP, it truly is awful.
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>>86260726
>Movies have gotten wider throughout the years.

Neat.
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FUCK MOS. FUCK BVS. FUCK SS. FUCK WW. FUCK JL. FUCK DCEU.

MORRAKNULLER ZACK ODLA ALT. GLAD FOR AT DATRA HANS DÆVA!
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>>86260910
We need to go wider.
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>>86259538
VLC sure makes the juiciest screnshots
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>>86260972
kys
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>>86259931
At least it's not bland and lifeless like the other Marvel movies, or dark and hard to see like BvS.
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>>86258616
Oooh, a basic usage of the rule of thirds and teal/orange comp.
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>>86259748
>explicitly states that GotG2 looks much better
>thats the movie this thread is about
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>good looking shots equal good cinematography
sure
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>>86261580
Glad you agree.
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>>86259466
The only good thing about the washington monument is the dick jokes your dad makes when you visit there at 13.
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>>86258616
WoW! What a nice CGI!
die you faggots capeshit shills
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>>86261466
the video says that they're using a different camera for it, GOTG 2 hadn't even come out when this was made you mong
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>>86263281
and that from the previews it looks better, "less flat"
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>>86263034
You sound childish as frick.
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>>86258616
>every marvel movie outside of GotG has absolutely shit cinematography and colors
>GotG 1 was alright looking
>GotG 2 varies from alright to someone vomiting a rainbow on the screen

That doesn't look good OP, you probably think that looks good because you've been conditioned by garbage
And GotG 2 was atrocious compared to the 1st
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>>86258616
what video game is this?
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>>86260726
For the record the "Introspective Moment" shot for Batman Returns shouldn't be that one. That's just him receiving the call to go to work
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>>86265862
>hurr durr video games are bad
When will /tv/ grow up? You literally only ever see people whining about video games in cape threads. Really makes you think.
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>>86266034
>grown man playing with action figures is seen as a manchild
>grown man who is playing with videotoys isn't
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>>86266034
hmm didn't see him ever say video games were bad hmmmm
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>>86258616
>he thinks cinematography means pretty pictures
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step aside faggot
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>>86258616
CGI is not cinematography.
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>>86266271
you still have to frame and compose a shot, even if it's done on a computer you utter mongoloid
not that OP's pic isn't trash but still your point is even more retarded
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>>86266471
I'm actually a bit concerned that three different people have made a "CGI is not cinematography" post. Like, what other threads are these people ruining with their lack of knowledge?
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But GotG do actually have good cinematography and i say this as a Snyder shill. It's one of the few Marvel movies to do a fine job at it.
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>>86267424
Guardians of the Galaxy is the "Hey lets make it candy-colored" kind of """"""good"""""" cinematography

Framing, lighting and general composition are still absolute trash. Out of the Marvel lineup, sure it stands out, but it's not good by any means.
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>>86267569

Well, i was comparing it to other MCU movies.
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>>86267424
Haha holy fucking shit you're terrible at falseflagging.
You do realize that the dindu actor for BP is a dicklet right? Chadfleck would destroy his nigress wife.
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>>86267613
How many times are you going to post this dipshit image?

Seriously guys, look up this image in the archives. It's almost as pathetic as the guy that posts Ego's skeleton.
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>>86267655
>posts it 5 times
>LOL PATHETIC LOLOLOLOLOLOL
You wanna see pathetic?
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/IM%20ACTING/page/1/
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>>86267608
A polished turn in a sewer is still a turd
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>>86259444
>calling The Washington Monument "that giant pole"
fuck off you goddamn commie
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>>86267781
why should I know the name of every landmark in america
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>>86267655
And
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/larry%20fong/
This faggot always gets triggered whenever someone mentions Fong and goes onto an apeshit rant. You can tell its the same guy because of how he types and his buzzword.
And do you mean this image? Take a look at the archives, I only posted it in response when the Guatemalan shills screencapped the low-res still of Cyborg from the trailer and spammed it with schadenfreude captions, stupid.
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>>86267842
Why the fuck are you still in this thread hours later? Like what the fuck, you responded to that post a minute after it was made.
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>>86267867
kek
roasted
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>>86267867
>what are tabs
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>>86260289
lol that's because he doesnt know shit
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>>86267865
I fucking KNEW you were that guy.
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>>86267904
Yeah, and why do you have the fucking thread open? What other stupid posts have you been making?
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>>86258616
There's a lot of stuff copied from Star Wars in Gog 1 & 2. That scene reminds me when Luke is looking at the twin suns, thinking about his future.
Marvel doesn't mean anything, all movies are made different directors. I don't think you can comapre Gog to Avengers or Thor.
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>>86267916
Okay
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>>86267952
why shouldn't I?
the thread's still going
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my screen resolution is too high to tell if that looks good or not.
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>>86267980
No, it's not okay. It's pathetic. "It's okay for me to do it because they're doing it" is stupid and Trumpian.
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>>86259783
Gee .. i wouldn't want fantasy in my action adventure movie
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>>86268104
Dude CGI lmao
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>>86260972
FFRRRRRRRRRRT BRRRRRRRRAAAPPPPRRRR PFFFFFPPLLPSPSPSLLPSPPPPPLLLLLLLRRRPPPPPP..... FRT..... PPPFLLF
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>>86268416
>alright boys let's just wait for the absolute perfect weather conditions and natural lighting, someone train our boy to fly, also flood that rural town, we really need this shot guys they want this entirely practical
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>>86268104
>only the person on the right is real
>cinematography

It's pretty much a Pixar film at that point
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Unironically GOTG2 was a major visual improvment in marvel sameshit universe, it barely looked like a telefilm, good to see them actually giving a shit about their visual choices
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>take a Windows XP wallpaper
>plop your awfully-designed character down on one of the golden sections
>overlay some dust particles
>????
>95% fresh on RT
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>>86268957
Too bad that Avengers 3 looks flat as fuck again
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>>86268894
>you can't use sets, matte paintings, cgi, soundtracks or sound effects, those things aren't real
>only use objects on location, natural lighting and without any fantasy elements, those things are real
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>>86259538
Looks like those shitty Alice in Wonderland movies
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>>86262023
Im glad you're too retarded to know what good cinematography or sarcasm is so you wont come up with a retarded reason to prove anyone wrong.
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>>86268853
Terrence Malick would make it happen.
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>>86259165
Its a dipshit /v/ meme in the first place, stop doing it you low effort shitposter.
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>>86269137
>Im
>wont
And you call people retarded.
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>>86260221
That bathtub shot is true kinographique
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>>86269168
That's cheating he's literally jesus
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>>86260688
Are you sure???????
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>>86259624
It looks like a painting, i like it.
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>>86259624
Seen cgi fantasy art on Deviantart. There's no composition or balance. It looks really really cluttered.
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>>86258616
>brown and blue
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i get a hearty chuckle whenever some fucking basement dweller on /tv/ brings up cinematography
it's quite the laugh when the subject is a fucking comic book movie that's comprised of 90% green screen
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>>86259508
I agree. Also, in my opinion, some of the best and most overlooked cinematography in BvS is during Clark's wake. They do an extremely good job of making it feel close and intimate without letting the camera intrude. It feels like you're one of the mourners.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wc_N3VMHXWE?t=52
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>>86270317
It's a shame that Zach has to write his own films, he could do incredible things with a decent script.
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>>86270404

He didn't write MoS or BvS.
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>>86258616
The "bad cinematography" meme is from DC-FAGZ. Admittedly Winter Soldier and Civil War look bad but that's because of the RUSSO's who chose to use hand held washed out cinematography AND I FUCKING HATE THAT SHIT!!! Same this with Whedon who fucked up Ultron with shit photography after listening to the morons who whined about The Avengers which looked good. Other than that EVERY SINGLE OTHER MARVEL FILM has been beautiful.

Directors need to understand that a movie needs to be beautiful NO MATTER THE SUBJECT!!! Only fucking morons like Snyder think "Muh superher movie iz serious business, so I need to drain all color out of it like I do semen from nigger cocks at the gym".

Just look at the difference between Terminator Salvation and the future war scene's in the first two movies. On TS they said "yep, take al the color out and make it ugly as shit" and it was terrible. But the future war scene's in T1 and T2 are haunting because the cinematography is beautiful.

Thor, Captain America, Ant-man, Guardians of the Galaxy 1&2, Spider-man: Homecoming and The Avengers are perfect examples of how these movies should look. Nice rich color saturated photography without shitty Tony Scott/Michael Bay/Music video/Commercial garish filters shot through a haze of smoke.

The DC shitflicks are everything that I DON'T WANT in comic book movies!!!FACT!!!
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>>86267912
says the pleb that doesn't understand that the angle of that scene symbolizes the fact that they are going to be fighting an uphill battle.
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>>86259938
You know that movie bankrupted a studio because it was a horrid piece of shit, right? Oh and when you spend the insane amount of money and time that hack did OF COURSE you're going to get good photography which is the only good thing about that piece of shit!!!FACT!!!
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>>86259295
That would still work, you nonce.
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Can't fucking believe none of you fucking plebs mention ENTER THE VOID for GOD-TIER cinematography. I'd fucking kill to see Marvel hire GASPAR NOE to Direct a Squirrel Girl movie. That would be....interesting......!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/JJkPLYmUyzg
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>>86269084
And those movies looked beautiful, it was the shitty writing, acting etc.. that sank them!!!FACT!!!
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damn that looks like a shot straight out of the searchers
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>>86258616
Watched this movie last night. 6/10 at best. Bad villain, too many quips and the director was trying to compete with Zack Snyder for most slomo in one movie.
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>>86258616
>cinematography
>literally a disney/pixar PS2 cgi sequence with 99% of everything seen on the screen being prerendered
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>>86270534

The Avengers look fucking awful.
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>>86270911
Snyder is an Ayn Rand worshipping closet faggot as are you!!!FACT!!!
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Today I will remind them
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>>86270921
There's nothing wrong with any of that. Why is it that DC Snyderverse fagz are soo insecure about the trash he makes and the DCU overall that you sound like Trump whining on Twitter on every single fucking thread. Fucking homo maximus pathetic!!!FACT!!!
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>>86270971
Whedon should never be allowed to direct a movie. He's a network TV guy to the core.
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>>86270982

Calm the fuck down. Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2, The Incredible Hulk, Captain American 1, Thor 2, Iron Man 1 and 3, they all looked fine.

But The Avengers movie look fucking awful. The compositions are all bad. Same for the rest of the MCU movies.
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>>86270910
What movie is this?
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>>86270971
>>86271026

The fucked up thing is this prove that Whedon just isn't a guy that shoot things with digital and don't know how to do a well scene, no. This prove purposely make the movie look like some reality show even when there's a scene shot on film.
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>>86271112
READ THE FUCKING FILE NAME
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>>86271162
Even movies shot on digital can look great
Joss is just an absolute trashcan who can't into aesthetics
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>>86271112
>damn that looks like a shot straight out of the searchers
the searchers you dumb idiot
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>>86271181
How do I find that?
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>>86267569
>Framing, lighting and general composition are still absolute trash.

There's nothing "trash" about them, you're being hyperbolic over terms you don't understand about movies you hate
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>>86271162
Are you having a seizure?
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>>86271261
The shots are badly composed anon
They vary from tv-show to vomit
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>>86271232
Firefly looks alright, so why does his big budget movies look so much worse?
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>>86271300

I'm drunk, but you got the gist of what i tried to say. Whedon is changing things during post to make it look purposely like a tv show. It's crazy.
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>>86271329
>Firefly looks alright
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>>86260559
The composition is not something to praise.
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>>86271329
Firefly was a TV show
Serenity looked like a TV show as well
I liked them both though
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>judging cinematography from still pictures
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>>86270971
wtf, even affleck's face looks uglier and less defined
what's wrong with this guy?
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>>86271908
"There is no such thing as a bad camera angle!"
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I think this is supposed to look how she feels. At this point she feels disconnected with Quill, no idea where Rocket and Gamora is, Groot is a baby, Drax and Quill things everything is A-OK with Ego.

She things she's about to hand over her sister to life in prison, thinks she's the only one that something is off with Ego and the planet.

She just feels alone and in adjusted.

The shot reflects that.
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>>86270982
It looks like it's from a cheap tv show.
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>>86270922
Hey namefag. What did you think of Amadeus?
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>/tv/ in charge of cinematography

I've seen better in porn
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>>86271743
this
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>>86259466
>>86267781
No one gives a fuck about your dildo monument, amerisharts.
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>>86258616
>CGI environment
>cinematography
Are you fucking retarded? They took a video of her sitting in front of a big green screen you dumb fuck.
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>>86258616

Russo brothers have to stop these cuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmJMeSECMzQ

this is embarrassing


this actors earn millions, they are obliged to learn the choreography of the fights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfiOIFqyiec
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>>86274819
That is pretty heinous. What's worse is you can almost see the effort and quality falling from movie to movie.
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>>86258616
>WOW SO FUCKING AMAZING HOW THAT GREENSCREEN LOOKS

Nigga do you even know what cinematography is?
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>>86276025
I like to think that it's the Peter Jackson effect
Where they got to put a lot of effort into Winter Soldier, then the studio was like "Yeah you're doing 3 movies back to back now" and they're overworked and have to cut a lot of corners.

Pun intended
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>>86270672
>Marlels measure quality of photography with box office receipts
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>>86272096
Or maybe she just wanted to sit down?
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