Let's talk about this kino.

>that animation
>that music

https://youtu.be/ziBnCYLJ6zo

WE

The jews were never actually slaves in Egypt.

too bad the Bible is bullshit and fairy tales

Why do the animations of the water looks better than most modern cgi?

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>Ask the man you call father, lmao

Who writes this garbage?

THIS WAS MY LIFE

I SEND THE SWORD
I SEND THE -SCOURGE-

>YOU WHO I CALLED BROTHER-!


fuck, I feel it in my chest and in the back of my throat every time.

pure. fucking. kino

>>86211707
Best Song.

Regardless if you think this is propaganda or you just hate religion, that was a good fucking song.

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>>86211551
WUZ

>>86211337
It's music kino
https://youtu.be/3WKN0XF8-3Q

>>86211573
theyre sick fairy tales tho

>>86211628
it was animated by former Disney people who left Disney and went to Dreamworks

>>86211573
t. uninformed anon

>>86211573
They are awesome fairy tales, it would have been cool if they were true.

>>86211337
One of the last truly great Disney movies.

One of the best animated films ever. Doesn't get enough love. Likely due to its religious connections. Beautiful animation, awe-inspiring music, great characters, and gripping narrative. Better than 99% of anything Disney has ever done in animation.

>>86211573
honestly fuck you

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcg5rN-jlaw

I remember watching this as a kid and I really liked how it wasn't condescending or anything. It opens with slavery and continues with murder upon murder
I guess they managed to get away with it because it's a bible story, and all the people who would usually send them angry phone calls were really religious.

Also, his fake Egyptian mom was hot as hell

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Bluray when? Full HD on digital stores.

PLAYING WITH THE BIG BOYS NOW

>>86211573
>thread is about an animated movie
>bitches about the bible anyways

Either you're an asswipe edgy teen, or you're an asshole troll with some really good bait. Ruining a chance to discuss a good movie with your retardation.

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>>86211573
>he doesn't know Egypt was a real place

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>the death of the firstborn

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>>86211573

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>>86211788

>Eloheim, god on high can you hear your people cry
>Help us now this dark hour
>Deliver us
>Hear our call deliver us
>Lord of all remember us here in this burning sand
>Deliver us
>There's a land you promised us
>Deliver us to the promised land

Fuckin kino lyrics

>>86211337
There is no god.

>>86213288
tips

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>try to get your people out of egypt
>make sure pharaoh won't grant your request by hardening his heart
>ok we did what we could, time to massacre egyptian babies lol

IF YOU BELIIIEEEEEVE

>>86211337
Really fantastic movie desu, but this movie had the opposite effect on me, it made me start to hate all this Judeo-Christian shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xwmvdll2NE

>>86214876
South Park, right?

>>86214876
So why did god sent the plagues instead of talking with the pharao?
I mean killing firstborn sons and sending locust must take more time and effort than simply appear in front of a man and telling him.

>>86211570
Gold to you sire!

>>86214876
Gold to you sire!

A reddit gold has been deposited into your account!

>>86215301
but it's not as much fun. the old testament god is basically a kid burning ants with a magnifying glass and making them dance to make himself feel powerful

>>86215371
Gold to you sire!

A reddit gold has been deposited into your account!

Shadilay!

>>86211570
>>>/r/atheism

>>86211573
>he doesn't appreciate the rich characters, storytelling and historical places of the Old Testament

Pleb detected.

>>86211785
no germanic people see the romans as their ancestors, faggit

>>86211943
Not Disney though (at least I don't think it was). It was DreamWorks second film

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>>86212019
>be 12 year-old me
>go to Catholic school once a week for an hour
>boring as fuck and derivative for the most part
>most kids just don't want to be there
>movie day
>fuck yea.jpg
>doesn't matter what it is just happy we don't have to read or pray
>it's Prince of Kino
>mfw

They started throwing that Joseph, King of Dreams bullshit on us, but even as a kid I could tell the difference in quality.

>>86215301
Because in the old testament it was a battle between God and the Egyptian Gods through these two men.

In response to the plagues unleashed by God, the Egyptian Gods hardened Pharaoh's heart to prevent him from giving him. However, when they saw that God could easily kill their people, they let go of their grip on Pharaoh.

In the New Testament this was changed because Christians don't want to acknowledge any other God than their own.

>>86214876
>>86215301
it's part of pharaoh's punishment. in the biblical narrative, pharaoh hardens his own heart several times when the issue of freeing the slaves arises and during the first few plagues. he commits himself to a course of action and his punishment is that he must see it through (and endure the rest of the plagues). his sin was great enough that god removed the option of atonement.

if your objection is that god's methods are too roundabout then why not propose god simply teleport the entire nation of israel to canaan and skip all the unpleasantness and wandering? gee i wonder why that isn't the story that was preserved for thousands of years and is part of the text central to western civilization...

>>86216523
>be devout Catholic family
>mom takes me to see Prince of Kino in theatres when it came out because she wanted me to "understand where Christianity comes from"
>Fucking 7 year old sensory overload at the visuals and songs
>Movie shapes my opinion on animation, musicals, and kino for years to come

My parents were patrician weren't they?

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>>86216554
>there's still no television show about gods from various pantheons vying for control of the Earth through divinely-anointed super-prophets

>>86216630
Yes

Through Heaven's Eyes is very inspiring to me as a depressed nogf NEET

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>>86216630
Even if I am a filthy heathen atheist now, I still enjoy going to Mass every now and then, especially during Christmas, but that's mostly because I'm a sucker for the songs.

My mom is relatively devout; she goes once a week usually, but my dad has been agnostic since I was 10 or so and goes to church as much as I do.

We fedora-tip pretty hard when we're alone.

My best memories of church were going on Saturdays, breaking down the time frames of each part of Mass to see how quickly it was going to end so I could get out of there, going out to dinner and then stopping by Blockbuster for some rental kino.

Pretty comfy, desu fampai.

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>>86216624
>why not propose god simply teleport the entire nation of israel to canaan and skip all the unpleasantness and wandering

let me guess, because the fell beasts would have intercepted the matter stream

>>86216718
The Burning Bush scene honestly makes me tear up.

The voice of God was so warm and calm, yet thunderous in His vitriol when Moses' faith wavered. It makes the fedora on my heart fall briefly.

The OST is one of the GOATs.

>>86216624
>and his punishment is that he must see it through

so god makes sure that once someone makes a mistake, he can never change his mind and mend his ways? how does that gel with the whole contept of atonement? nope, once you go bad, god will make sure you stay that way? awesome, so if you sin once, god will make sure you keep on sinning, preventing you from atoning, and in the end punishing you for the whole lot? wow, what divine mercy

>>86216554
the egyptian gods play zero part in Exodus bro

>>86216684
that's sort of american gods desu

>>86211573
BURRP

>>86216894
According to the New Testament anyway.

>>86217620
Exodus is part of the Old Testament, I have no idea what you're getting at

>>86211573
Yeah and? Still some pretty awesome fairy tales. Go back to /r/atheism.

>>86216854
>even in regards to sin i must equate myself to the highest example
typical arrogant atheist who cannot into textual nuance. it happened to PHARAOH you simplistic, reductionist moron. if you sin to the degree pharaoh does, then yes, you will destroy your opportunity for atonement. it's good that you're too much of an ineffectual faggot to do anything that noteworthy.

>once
and lrn2read

>>86217107
Huh, I had seen threads before but never really was interested.

Will check it out.

>>86211573

You gonna ignore the fact that there is evidence for many stories in the bible?

>>86213288
okay hitler

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Why didn't they just use the Eagles to fly to Canaan?

>>86216894
Except they do.

>>86211337
it's mediocre

>>86218820
where?

>>86216894
They do now. The kike god started out as one of many. The origins of most of those stories come from a time when the habiru brigand gypsies who later became known as the jews were still polytheists. And a lot of motives are outright stolen from other races in the region.

>>86218837
>>86216554

>>86218693
>if you sin to the degree pharaoh does, then yes, you will destroy your opportunity for atonement

but of course israel gets one chance after another, because genociding the canaanites of course isn't anywhere near as bad as forced labor in egypt, got it. crimes against humanity are only bad if they're comitted by non-jews

>>86218879
>in the new testament, the old testament was changed

wut

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>>86218880
maybe the can'taanites should have gotten a stronger patron god

>>86216840
damnit i just watched it and teared up too

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>>86215424
>atheism is reddit
>being conservative is reddit
>most reddit conservatives are christcucks
>but most of reddit in general are atheist leftards
>let's tell this man questioning jew bullshit that he belongs on reddit by implying he's a christcuck conservatard who also worships an egyptian god

You're making my head hurt, JIDF. How do you reconcile all that shit in your head to even make a consistent narrative?

>>86218908
That part of anon's post is retarded, but it is edited in modern editions.

However, the point that egyptian gods play a part in it remains.

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>So let my heart be hardened
>And nevermind how high the cost may grow
>It will not be so!
>I will never let
>Your
>People
>GO!

>>86218880
they destroyed the canaanites on god's orders, they would only "need another chance" if they hadn't.

>crimes against humanity
lel

>>86219059
That's right, goyim are not human. They were created only to serve the chosen

>>86218988
specifically where

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>>86211645
>that whale scene

>>86219101
>ressentiment: the post
canaanites were human, so were all the people of noah's age, so were the israelites massacred at the beginning of exodus. god dgaf, if you fuck up or are too close to people who fucked up he'll run you over.
like most atheists you sound like someone who's GOTTEN run over so you're bitter and resentful towards god. too bad

>>86211573
>what kind of story should we invent for our people?

>that we were slaves for like a hundred years, only escaped because God helped us, then we had to wander in the desert for 40 years because we were too stupid to just listen to what God wanted us to do

hmmm, makes you think

If Pharoah freed the slaves it would be a PR disaster the likes of which history would have never seen.

The whole Egyptian state was founded on the fact that the Pharaoh was an all powerful God King. If he freed some weak slaves seemingly for being intimidated by their god the whole system would collapses and cause more suffering for his people.

The Pharaoh really had no choice in the matter.

>>86219672

/thread

Ramses did nothing wrong.

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makes me happy to know my fav movie of all time is appreciated here.

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>>86212143
Holy shit do you guys see what I'm seeing?

>>86220302
Gas the KIKES!
But yeah, is a nice movie.

>>86212088
It's weird. Spirit got a bluray release and I bought it because it's a gorgeous film but it's nowhere near as entertaining as El Dorado or as perfect a movie as Prince of Egypt and neither have a bluray yet.

Shit, wouldn't even mind if they did a multi-release like Laika does. I just want my 1080p.

is it sad that i still watch this on vhs?

>>86220513
ANCIENT ALIENS.

MOSES WAS A PHARAOH.

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>>86211337
>[thus saith the Lord]
>[thus saith the Lord]
>[thus saith the Lord]
>[thus saith the Lord]
>[because you refused to free my people]
>[throughout the land of Egypt]
>I send a pestilence and plauge,
>Into your HOUSE, into your BED,
>Into your STEAMS, into your STREETS,
>Into your DRINK, into your BREAD!
>Upon your cattle!
>Upon your sheep!
>Upon the oxen in your fields!
>Into your DREAM, into your SLEEP,
>Until you BREAK, until you YIELD!
>I SEND THE SWARM,
>I SEND THE HORDE,
>THUS SAITH THE LORD!
What was God's problem? The average Egyptian peasant didn't deserve to take the fall for Pharaoh's pride.

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>You're watching this with someone seeing it for the first time
>mfw they instinctively go for their phone at the start of the movie because "kek movies never start off running."

>>86218988
>However, the point that egyptian gods play a part in it remains.
Citation or stop spewing bullshit. I did a retardedly long report on Exodus in high school and I don't remember a single mention of the Egyptian gods being acknowledged as powerful enough to do anything to Moses or his God.

Furthermore, the bible specifically says that "the LORD hardened Pharoah's heart." This specific passage pre-dates both the old and new testament.

>>86216554
The quote "You will go to the land of Egypt and demand that Pharoah free my people, but I will harden his heart and he will not listen" is from Exodus, not the NT, are you high?

>>86211645
welp back to rewatching it

>>86211337

Beyond the religious tone, one of the latest "blockbuster" animation movie with an actual attempt to create a work of art before selling toys.

Powerful voice acting, stunning visuals and amazing score.

I feel sorry for today kids growing up with "The Emoji Movie", "Despicable Me" and "The Angry Birds Movie".

And yeah, the Pharaoh was right.

>>86220992
Old testament God wasn't/isn't the same God of modern Christianity. Old Testament's God was vengeful and bloodthirsty, and he didn't need a reason to fuck your shit up. He just did it to keep you in line, collateral damage be damned.

>>86221291
So what, God came to Earth as Jesus and chilled the fuck out after sending some time as a mortal man and realizing how bullshit it is?

>>86211573
the problem is not that they're obviously made up, it's that they're overly symbolic and incoherent

>>86221435
That's the long and short of it, yeah. Jesus was God's attempt to bridge that immeasurable divide between Man and Divine.

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>>86211521
>throughout the film Aaron is shown to lack faith, and only shows due reverence to God when he displays his might
>he's the first one to walk into the parted ocean
wtf God would have drowned him

>>86220943
>>86220916
Damn these are some old memes

>>86221014
>the ADD audience is now the largest target demographic
How does it feel?

>>86221291

Hey Abraham. I'm bored as shit. Murder your son Isaac for me. I let you have him, now I'm taking him back. Strap his ass to a slab of rock and stab him for me. Do it, you fuck.

jk you alright senpai

>>86221435
yeah god grew out of his edgy teen years around 500bc

>>86216554
What are you talking about? The original hebrew is:
וַיְחַזֵּק יהוה אֶת־לֵב פַּרְעה

יהוה is Yahweh

>>86216554
>This shit bait actually hooked a couple of Christian redditors
Wew, /tv/ is in shambles.

>>86211573
>not appreciating mythology
You complain about adaptions of greek myth too?

I thought it was filled maudlin sentimentalities and I hated the character designs, never liked the Miracles song that became a hit around the time as well.
Also knew a girl that was a fucking banshee that loved the movie, so I hate the movie.

>>86216796
>>86216624
>>86214876
Honestly, the Bible makes more sense if you think of God more like a force of nature that speaks than a person.

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>>86215315
>>86216170

JIDF in full force ITT lmao

There's no historical evidence the kikes were ever even in ancient Egypt, let alone slaves who were forced to build pyramids. You faggots just push it because it feeds your perpetual victim complex. Unironically neck yourselves.

Kino af

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How can you guys call something kino, where the jews are portrayed as the good guys and the egyptyans as the bad guys?

>>86222363
>There's no historical evidence the kikes were ever even in ancient Egypt

that's not true either, there were jewish communities living in egypt at least by the 6th century BCE such as the soldiers' colony on Elephantine, but they were integrated into society (the army in this case), and although there was *some* religious conflict, they were not full blown jews in the modern sense and worshiped several gods

but yeah, the Hebrews as an enslaved ethnicity in Egypt is complete myth. if it is rooted in any historical events, it's probably the expulsion of the Hyksos (a Semitic dynasty from Canaan who had ruled northern Egypt for a century), but those were kicked out by the natives, instead of fleeing from them, and religion wasn't an issue (as everyone was polytheist back then)

>dude let me kill every firstborn kid because the guilt of parents is inherited LMAO

Pharoah did nothing wrong.

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>>86222450
>Decadent gyppos
>good guys

>>86222600
if pharaoh did nothing wrong he would not have lost. this >>86222323 reading is correct.

>>86211573
yeah but they're like pre historic manga

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>>86211573

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>>86222363
I watched this movie in 1998, I still remain on the side of the egyptians and their gods.

>>86218786
And about 200x evidence contradicting the bible.

>>86216894
>Jeremiah 46:25 I will punish the multitude of No, and Pharaoh, and Egypt, with their gods.

>Acts 14:11-12 The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men. And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius...

>Exodus 12:12 And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment...

>Exodus 23:13-33 KJV And make no mention of the name of other gods, Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images. Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods. for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

>>86218786
Yeah many of the stories in the Bible are fantastic retellings of historic events

>>86221291
>Old testament God wasn't/isn't the same God of modern Christianity.
False. They are the same entity. Revelation will be the return of the fire and brimstone. Jesus' message was "repent for the kingdom of God is at hand." Ever wondered why we're living during a time called "grace?"

>>86216364
Lol yeah they do faggot, go to /pol/

>>86224833
well that is one single mention in Exodus that specifically mentions the gods of Egypt. the second one is after the Exodus and refers to idolatry in general or more specifially to the gods of the people they are about to encounter in Canaan

Exodus simply isn't about God vs. the gods. it's about God vs. a powerful madman who fancies himself a god. the moral isn't that other god-gods aren't real, the moral is that man is not allowed to exalt himself to godhood above his fellow men.

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>>86211573

>>86220513
It's clearly a movie theater.
The ancient Egyptians were well-known kinoisseurs.

>>86214876
The original Hebrew doesn't distinguish which God it was, it was likely referring to an Egyptian god that forbade pharaoh from giving in to the Jews demands. Blame later translations for eliminating any notion of other gods existing.

>>86225253
I meant more that, they're not the same personality-wise, not that there's two different Gods, I should've written that better.

>>86226659
what the fuck do you know about "the original Hebrew"?

>it was likely referring to an Egyptian god

citation fucking needed

>>86226882
The wording was vague, when it said "God hardened his heart" it could also be read as "a god hardened his heart". It makes more sense than YHYW suddenly deciding to dick over his people.

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>>86222363
>Thutmose II is the only pharaoh covered in boils upon death
>his successor, Hatshepsut, spent much of egypts resources looking for slaves
Also, no one claims the Hebrews built the pyramids.

>>86227752
but it doesn't say "God", it says "Yahweh hardened Pharaoh's heart", so specifically the god of the Jews

>>86225404
who do you think made that image?

>>86211337
There can be miracles
When you believe
Though hope is frail
Its hard to kill
Who knows what miracles
You can achieve
When you believe
Somehow you will
You will when you believe

A-shir-ra I'a-do-nai ki ga-oh ga-ah
A-shir-ra I'a-do-nai ki ga-oh ga-ah
Mi-cha-mo-cha ba-e-lim adonai
Mi-ka-mo-cha ne-dar-ba-ko-desh

>>86229267
>the people sing after they're done massacring egyptians just before they can get to canaan and kill even more unbelievers

https://youtu.be/oG0a9WFkgzU
Secret Best Song coming through

>>86226341
Christ-chan is a bitch!