I hate I hate everything

I forgot to mention pretentious.

thunderf00t

>>86146806
no

Fuck off T.J Miller. Go being a bitch on twitter

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No. I kinda feel bad for him. You can tell he's never kissed a girl and that he was abused as a child. He's gonna grow old and alone and eventually (and albeit way later than it should have been) put a shotgun in his mouth and blow his brains out, leaving nothing but a once semi-famous channel on a now defunct website as his mark on this world

His newest episode was EmojiMovieReviewKino.

>>86147080
Exactly. Low-hanging fruit much?
>LOL DID MUVIE IS SOOO BEEEEEED HUH GOYS??

>>86146806
He's a good lad, but I honestly prefer his second channel JAR media, where him and his mates chat utter bollocks and attempt "roleplay" suggestions. That's unironically YouTube kino.

>>86147073
>"Like how the fuck is beastiality even real?hahahaha Just like have sex with your dog lol!"

>>86146877
At least he's a scientist or some shit. This faggot just shits on bad movies, because that sort of easy garbage is what his childish fanbase enjoys.

>>86147076
Sounds exactly like my life, except for the Youtube channel part

>>86147261
If you have a counterargument, I'd love to hear it.

If you ever come across a channel with more than 100k subscribers, stay the fuck away.

>>86147073
I hate you but your videos are so entertaining
fuck you

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>>86146806
Somebody ring the /co/ster?

>>86147076
Seems like an /r9k/ fag

>>86146806
His entire act is just a poor man's Plinkett. Especially his editing style.

>>86147174
God. you reminded me of that chris stuckman's video of the movie
He was screaming like a fucking sperg
I don't even know why i clicked it

What terrible movie did he review that has you buttblasted, OP? Meme Squad?

>>86147076
Hes a youtuber with like a million subscribers. Hes fine.

>I Hate Everything
Sounds just like /tv/

>>86147076
He's gay so I don't think he's particularly upset about never kissing a girl

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>>86147609
>He needs a counterargument not to fuck his dog

>>86148220
>proving has has literally no argument
As I thought.

>>86146806
He's a nice guy. Leave him alone.

>>86148256
Adam's only argument for dog fucking is WELL YOU'RE EATING MEAT YOU MAY AS WELL JUST FUCK DOGS

>>86148309
And you still can't refute that without resorting to ad hominems.

>>86148344
Alright then: fucking a dog is wrong because it cannot give you consent

>>86148411
Then so is killing one (or any animal for that matter).

>>86147927
>he hates Totally Spies
Will never give his videos a view again, adblock on or not.

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>>86148445
No. Animals are a source of food needed for survival and humans have been eating them for thousands of years. Fucking dogs on the other hand...

>>86146806
i once asked him a question on reddit and he responded with a photo of a pig

:(

>>86147195
JAR is unironically miles better than IHE. His friends are much more fun to watch and listen to than he is

>>86148522
On the other hand what? You think bestiality is something new? And no, you can actually survive without eating meat. In fact, the majority of people throughout history would have been lucky to ever have a luxury such as meat.

>>86146806
Why does /tv/ hate fun?

>>86148445
Animals kill humans unprovoked all the time, humans kill animals all the time.
Animals do not fuck humans without being somehow coerced into it.

>>86148732
Ask me how I know you've never been around a dog.

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>>86148646
>In fact, the majority of people throughout history would have been lucky to ever have a luxury such as meat

Source. Also, bestiality is not illegal in all civilised countries for no reason

>>86148762
>have dog as child
>always have fun with dog
>learn about sex
>never attempt it with dog because animals are not for sexing, something I could understand even as a child

>>86148522
Don't the Welsh fuck sheep all the time?

>>86148344
Fucking animals is an easy way to get various nasty diseases, you fucking autist.

>>86148809
European peasants subsisted on tasteless sludge. It's not my fault you don't know history, but I'm not really surprised.
>bestiality is not illegal in all civilised countries for no reason
This is not an argument. That's like saying "marijuana is not illegal for no reason", or "gay marriage is not illegal for no reason". Like many things, it's illegal because of rampant moralism.

>>86149006
So is fucking another man in the ass, but whaddaya know...

>>86149039
>European peasants subsisted on tasteless sludge. It's not my fault you don't know history, but I'm not really surprised.
I said source. No ad hominems faggot

>>86149141
You're getting caught up on a retarded detail. If you think that there aren't/haven't been large groups of people who don't eat meat, then fuck off because you're wrong. You can just look at modern day vegans if you want proof. It's not strictly necessary to eat animal. And even if it was, you'd still be throwing away their "rights" for the sake of eating them, so why do you care if someone has sex with them? I mean the two aren't even comparable anyway. Sex doesn't kill dogs you idiot.

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>>86149325
>If you think that there aren't/haven't been large groups of people who don't eat meat, then fuck off because you're wrong
Source. No ad hominems

>>86146806
>is there a bigger snobbish faggot
Every single person on /lit/

>>86149410
Vegans. Happy?

>>86149530
>European peasants subsisted on tasteless sludge
Very interesting way to say vegan

>>86149576
It's okay to admit you don't have an argument. But just to get your stupid mouth to shut the fuck up, I'll dignify you with a google result, lazy cuntflap.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/

>>86149450
>>>/got/ is that way

>>86148256
Different anon but my counter argument to "you might as well fuck your dog" is "I am not sexually attracted to my dog and don't want to fuck it"
Beat that matey

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>>86148732
Sounds like someone has never been around horses. Don't worry, your friendly neighborhood horsefucker will enlighten you

>>86149675
Blogs are not reliable sources. Also there are no sources in the article itself. You have nothing to prove your point

>>86149867
No, you're pretending my point is something it isn't. You're the hypocrite here. What does it even matter if people ate animals in the past? You're the one parroting some bullshit moral argument about "consent", so why aren't you condemning the horrible actions of your ancestors who ate meat?
Even if I can't prove my point, you still have no point at all.

>>86149990
>so why aren't you condemning the horrible actions of your ancestors who ate meat?
Because humans are omnivores
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnivore

>>86150167
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>>86150239
>Not understanding a basic argument

>>86149990
Fucking animals is degenerate and wrong. Different species of animals don't and shouldn't mate. Different species of animals do and should however eat each other. It's not hypocritical in the slightest to eat meat and not fuck your dog. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

>>86150288
>resorting to ad hominems again
Like clockwork.

>>86149747
Oh fucking neck yourself. The show is trash and the books are overhype's thanks to the fucking show.

>>86150310
You're just spouting an axiom. There is no such thing as absolute right and wrong. Once you take a step back and realize that you only object to people fucking animals "because it's wrong because it's wrong because it's wrong", you begin to see how every argument against it is made in service to an already existing conclusions, not the other way around.

>>86150328
>>resorting to ad hominems again
>It's not my fault you don't know history
>You're getting caught up on a retarded detail
> then fuck off because you're wrong
Ironic

>>86148256
it's degenerate and against God's will

https://youtu.be/7yPzMXLenzw

>>86150465
This

>>86150310
Fucking CONSENTING animals is fine. Eating meat is fine too

>>86150447
Okay, so we both use ad hominems. What's your fucking point already?

everything about this guy is so fucking generic and boring that its baffling.

>>86150445
If you want to argue nihilism, I'm down. This post-modern, nothing is absolute, bullshit makes me grind my teeth. It's fair to say that objectively some values and ideas are better than others. I'm arguing that fucking your dog is something you shouldn't do, because the alternative is objectively and morally superior.

>>86150514
That you should not school other people on proper discussion etiquette when you yourself can't follow your own rules

>>86150585
Okay, cool.

>>86150567
You might want to give post another look over. I'm getting some mixed messages here.

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>>86150482

>>86150482
>channel built around hating things.
>hates website built for hating things on

>>86150684
It's because of his "superior intelligence

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>>86150665
>730 likes

>>86147296
Engineer. But often engineers are more practically-minded than scientists.

Scientists tend to be left wing. Engineers tend to be right wing. When a scientist makes a major breakthrough it's usually because they had a very right wing existential insight.

>>86150653
Explain.

>>86148522
ah-bloo-bloo

>>86147927
I swear everything he hates is pleb filter

Also
>Every Cartoon has to have a Moral

>>86147076
You obviously do not watch the Jarcast, as he is totally not anything that you've said.

>>86150777
>fucking your dog is something you shouldn't do
vs
>because the alternative is objectively and morally superior.

>>86150833
tell us about how great Family Guy is

>>86148344
I'm not Chinese.

>>86150848
I see, silly me. I meant to say it's better to not fuck your dog than to fuck your dog.

>>86148445
You are fucking retarded.

>>86150948
Ok.
Well frankly I have no intention with trying to debate with someone who thinks moral absolutism is a legitimate argument.

>>86151021
Cool argument you have there bro

the dog fucking thing is retarded
logic won't apply
it's like when you try to explain the difference between pedophilia and pederasty
people look at you weird and they should because you're a freak to talk about this
logic won't apply

>>86151106
>being logical makes you a freak
That's not how things work.

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>there are people who legitimately don't realize that it's not a good thing to fuck your dog

>>86151246
I take it you're someone who lost an argument earlier in the thread and feels the need to post again to validate your mindless axiom?

>>86151226
yes it is
when Adam points out the logical inconsistencies in meat eaters who oppose dogfucking
he is not wrong
his logic is sound
but the point is, he sounds like a fucking freak when he talks about it
there is a social context to most thing, but not these discussions
this is why we used to kill degenerates and weirdos in the past
the internet and the modern age allows dogfuckers and deviants like and thrive
smdh

>>86151353
No it isn't /pol/.

>>86146806
Why does he tell us the entire plot of the movies he watches? It seems like a really lazy way to review a movie

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>>86151352
This is my first post in this thread m8.

IHE isnt awful, he's just terribly mediocre. He doesn't bring any insightful deconstruction to the table like RLM, and he doesn't even nitpick to the minute degree that YMS does. I suppose he's successful because of his colorful cartoon pictures, picking low-hanging fruit for reviews that are guaranteed to get hits, and being embroiled in YouTube Drama.

I know the biggest reason he's known is probably because of Cool Cat - which was a shitty review for a movie already basically comprehensively covered by dog-fucker YMS. Despite the copyright claim from the director being ultimately bogus, the way IHE spazzed out was just a huge call for attention, making as much drama as he could out of it.

I don't know. He's not as bland as Stuckmann, he's just unfunny and uninsightful, more like Douge.

>>86150838

You watch the Jarcast too?

>>86151422
Ok. But you still don't have an argument. I love how everyone trying to argue against Adam on this is basically proving his point.

>>86151353
>his logic is sound
Equating the act of feeding yourself to the act of fucking a dog "just cuz lol" is not sound logic. Give me a reason to fuck my dog. Don't tell me "well you eat cows right so you already have a reason to fuck your dog"

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>>86151522
If there isn't anything in your brain telling you that it's not OK to fuck dogs then something has gone wrong. It's a biological instinct telling you not to be a fucking degenerate.

>>86151581
It's a fetish. And you still can survive without eating animals, so that point is trash.

>>86151614
But I don't want to fuck dogs, anon. I'm just not buying into the bullshit afterthought arguments you guys are perpetuating.

>>86151449
I agree wholeheartedly. The search for the worst is good but a lot of the movies on that list are abysmal to the point that you can't even have fun ragging on them like you could with The Room.

>>86151246
>there are people willing to think logically about a taboo subject instead of just accepting some moral absolutist bullshit
ftfy

>>86151353
Fucking your dog is not a need like eating, it's a want. You could live without raping your dog.

who?

>>86151522
ANSWER ME THIS. Why should I fuck my dog? I eat meat because it tastes good, but it wouldn't feel good to fuck my dog. I'd feel sad looking into his big ole puppy eyes as I plowed his tight chocolate starfish. So, WHY. SHOULD. I. COPULATE. WITH. A. DOG? How does bestiality logically follow eating meat? Or am I missing something. I'll admit right now, I have no idea who this "Adam" is and I haven't heard him speak about zoophilia or omnivores or anything.

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>>86151735
>he thinks fucking dogs is ok
wew lad

>another e-celeb thread derailed because of beastiality discussion
Talk about low hanging fruit

>>86151749
For the billionth time, eating animals is not a need.

>>86151637
I don't have that fetish. I do have a working tongue that loves meat. Now, where's your argument friendo

>>86151749
>muh vegans

>>86148256
i sincerely hope you enjoy your dog

I'd fuck an animal if it was consenting and I was attracted.

>>86151855
Some people do have that fetish (not me). What's your point exactly?

>>86151835
Well I want to eat animals, but I don't want to fuck them. So, why should I fuck them? Please, explain nigger. Explain.

>>86151880
I don't have a dog and I'm not a zoophile. Why the fuck can't any of you retards understand this? It's like "Oh, you don't hate gay people? You must be a dirty homo then!". You fuckers are immune to logic and thinking outside your narrow domain of acceptable topics.

>>86151899
Animals can't consent.

>>86151835
Children raised on vegan diets are objectively weaker than those who aren't, to a degree it is if you don't want to live a sickly life. And for the trillionth time fucking your dog isn't a need.

>>86151979
If nothing in this world matters in the grand scheme of the universe, why isn't it okay to kill your mom?

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Top tier philosophical discussion going on here on /tv/. You can really tell the posters here are well acquainted with the ins-and-outs of morality and ethics, as well as having a solid grasp of logic.

>>86151918
You're either ignoring the point or you just want me to go full nihilist and point out that caring about the shoulds, coulds, and woulds of animal eating do t matter. Nunna this matters, so why shouldn't I eat meat. I don't care if I don't need to eat meat. "Need" is a relative term. If I'm starving and the only food source around is meat, at what point to I need to eat meat? Do I need to survive? Does it matter? No. But I don't want to fuck a dog, so why should I.

>>86151994
I never said fucking your dog was a need. I don't see how that's relevant.
Yes, children on vegan diets are messed up, but if you're gonna make the argument that animals have to consent (not that they'd fucking care anyway. dog's like to fuck it seems), then you'd think that being frail and malnourished is a fair price to pay for the life of an animal. Just stop it with the mental gymnastics already.

>>86152086
>Look at all these faggots discussing shit on a discussion board
Suck my horsecock, oh wait...

It's bad enough being a run of the mill "grr i so angry" channel, but this faggot doesn't even have any personality or humor to make his videos entertaining. I don't understand why many of these shit channels get so many views.

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>>86151918
>some people have that fetish (not me)
It's okay bro you're in good company

>>86152153
Nobody's telling you you need to fuck your dog, sperglord.

>>86150761
>t. Faggot wagecuck engineer who sucks pajeet cuck every day.
You don't even know how comfy is to be a professor and how much alpha you look.

>>86152086
People always take the bestiality bait. I think they forget virtue signaling doesn't work when you're anonymous.

Almost everyone in the first world knows fucking animals is wrong. Its not like you're taking a bold stance by being against it.

>>86151986
>>86149844
You were saying?

It's an okay channel, the best videos are about blatantly bad movies, and the hating of 4chan thing is just what normalfags percieve of the 2012 4chan, aka "The asshole of the internet"

Fucking your dog isn't normal, animals don't often try to mate with other species, and when they do it's because they're not normal.

>>86152070
Because most people have the right combination of chemicals in their brain to result in an enormous amount of guilt if they were to do that.

>>86152272
Inflation fetishists aren't normal either. Should we wage a holy war on Deviantart?

>>86152220
Then what is this argument about? Because I'm totally fine with eating meat and with other people fucking dogs, but I don't see how me being fine with people eating meat means that I MUST be okay with bestiality. Also I don't want to fuck my dog, and I thought that this was also what was being argued. Sorry lad.

>>86152261
Yeah, it's not very bold to blindly accept a conclusion and utterly reject any amount of questioning toward it.

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>>86152310
delete this

>>86152310
Yes

>>86152310
It's a bit hard to inflate someone in real life, whereas dog fuckers just need to find a dog and ride it.

>>86152362
>Yeah, it's not very bold to blindly accept a conclusion and utterly reject any amount of questioning toward it.
Wow, that's edgy. I bet you believe in the Flat Earth theory because other people told you it was a sphere

>>86148179
source? Wouldnt be surprised though

>>86147195
I liked it better when they put gameplay over it to compensate for my adhd

>>86152267
Who made you the authority in deciding when a horse wants to fuck you?

>>86152446
He's not really secretive about it. He had a piece of paper that said "I'm a huge faggot please rape my face" on his wall

>>86152346
This argument is about the mental gymnastics and double standards people employ to justify their moral position of "bestiality is absolutely and completely wrong and anyone who dares to question that idea is a sick fuck". If you eat meat and then immediately turn around and talk about an animal needing to consent to sex, you are a hypocrite plain and simple. But then again, the vast, vast majority of the population take no issue with this line of thinking, so it's not like it really matters.

>>86152434
Do you have an argument or not? Because many others have already beaten you to the punch on calling me a retard, so it's a little redundant at this point.

>>86150619
>>86150585
Will you two faggots shut the fuck up.
You don't need to argue about fucking animals. If you have to resort to fucking animals you've already lost in life.

>>86152280
Universe doesn't care about your guilt or your dead mom. There's just enough cosmic reason for her to breathe than for her to rot in the ground. Moral absolutism doesn't seem so bad anymore does it?

>>86152552
>This argument is about the mental gymnastics and double standards people employ to justify their moral position of "bestiality is absolutely and completely wrong and anyone who dares to question that idea is a sick fuck". If you eat meat and then immediately turn around and talk about an animal needing to consent to sex, you are a hypocrite plain and simple. But then again, the vast, vast majority of the population take no issue with this line of thinking, so it's not like it really matters.
It's nothing new you fucking degenerate. People have been accepting killing other people in wars and not allowing bestiality for hundreds of years

>>86152548
Probably an edgy meme. He has to be either a virgin or a closet homosexual.

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>>86152635
This was posted an hour ago you fucking mong

>>86152697
>closet homosexual.
He admitted he is gay on multiple occasions

>>86152648
Nice appeal to emotion there. No, I'm not going to lie to myself about morality just because it would make me sad if my mother died.

>>86152768
source

>>86152774
How about some woman you don't know getting raped in an alley somewhere? Take away the emotion, why shouldn't that happen?

>>86152825
https://www.reddit.com/r/YMS/comments/1muvvj/ask_me_anything_yms_creator_here/

>>86152630
Calling a duck a duck no matter how many times is still true.

>>86146806
The guy is full of himself the only reason he made a video on '100 worst youtube channels' was because he was in it (I wouldnt be bothered by it if he'd just admitted that that was why he made the video but he spends the whole thing pretending that he cares other people were on the list), made a video on the channels who parody him and in the destiny comments video the robot sucks his dick

>>86152876
>https://www.reddit.com/r/YMS/comments/1muvvj/ask_me_anything_yms_creator_here/
We were referring to IHE

>>86152876
Oh I thought you meant IHE.

>>86152928
>>86152929
My bad

>>86152982
No problem, hombre

I hope the guy arguing for dog fucking is sincerely a troll.

>>86152859
Fundamentally it's no different from any other event in the universe. But from a human perspective (or rather an empathetic one), I find it morally reprehensible (based on my own personal morals) to rob another person of their own freedom in that way.

>>86153065
If you honestly a good argument against it, I'd love to hear. Unlike people who take axioms at face value, I'm willing to accept if I'm wrong.

>>86153034
but he is gay though

>>86153066
So if it's better for her not to get raped according to your moral compass, you agree it's better to live your life following that compass? I think we've found common ground.

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>>86146806
I like him. He's reasonable and hates the right thing when it counts.
So what if he made an I Hate 4chan. Apparently 3/4 of everyone here hates it too.

>>86153123
Exodus 22:19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.

>>86153133
who

>>86153133
IHE or YMS? YMS is a huge degenerate furfag.

>>86152896
Even if I'm retarded, at least I try to present an argument. I can sympathize with flat earthers and monn landing deniers in that way, because while I may find them to be dumber than rocks, I can at least see why they might think they're correct when very few people ever actually try to correct them and instead just resort to calling them retards.

>>86153189
Amen

>>86150619
let's have sex

>>86153208
>>86153237
Alex

>>86152547
Having an iq above the single digits and being able to recognize the signs of attraction and arousal in an animal helps a lot. Also horses are pretty smart and have been shown to recognize human expressions of emotion. So, a smart thot horse knows how to turn a man on, ya dig? They just flash that fishing, inviting, winking puss and spread their legs (presenting), then they turn and look at you with those big wet needy eyes, glowing with emotion and intelligence.

>>86153357
Source?

>>86153189
I wonder if the Quaran says anything about it...
That's not a sarcastic quip by the way, I'd actually be interested to know.

>>86153377
You disgust me.

>>86152552
Oh. Well shit, that's a good point. People who are okay with animals getting murdered (no consent) but not getting fugged (also no consent, although sometimes an animal certainly will sonsent) are indeed hypocritical fucksticks.

>>86151353
He is a furry

>>86153468
That's only coherent if you argue consent, we're not.

>>86153446
I suppose that can't be helped. I wouldn't fuck a dog, for what it's worth.

>>86151021
You're really only proving his point to be honest

>>86153468
Bestiality is disgusting because of what the human is doing, not because of what it does to the animal. People who argue against it on the grounds of animal rights are fools. They're animals. They don't care what gets stuck in them as long as it's not a knife. The disgrace in the act is that it degrades the man.

>>86153598
What do you mean? That's what started the discussion in the first place. Adam's argument was "if animals need to consent to sex, why don't they need to consent to being killed", was it not?

>>86153644
Oh heavens no! I can't be made to believe it's okay to fuck an animal! Pity me!

>>86151581
But that anon isn't trying to convince you to fuck your dog, just why someone should be able to

>>86153598
Wait, then what is being argued? What rationale is being provided to justify the statement "it is wrong to fuck a dog?" Are people just moralfagging?

>>86153417
>There is a Hadith which says, "If someone engages in sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill the animal."

The only thing i could find in english was some guy on Quora, but it's good enough I guess

>>86153767
Yes they are for the most part.

>>86153694
Well shit, yeah, that's Adam's argument. I'm saying it's not about consent, it's about degeneracy and biology. Animals don't mate between species, and if they do, they don't procreate. Animals do eat other species of animals, which is entirely natural. That's why it's not hypocritical to not agree with the idea that it's okay to fuck your dog and eat meat.

>>86153674
How is it degrading to a man to use force on an animal to satiate a sexual urge? What makes humans so special that they must restrain themselves when the are defac to ruler of all they survey?
You sound like the men in Washington, like the men in Moscow, and like the men in the church.

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The fucking animals thing i can let go, but pic related is literally the worst opinion ive ever read. Like Brian Wilson is lazy? Remain in Light is lazy? George Harrison is lazy? Fucking shit opinion means literally nothing. I actually had to unsub from him after seeing this, ill get my opinions from a less shithead source

>>86153674
Not the other anon, but this is the only decent counterargument ITT so far

>>86153868
XD

>>86153698
I was sorry that I had disgusted you but now I'm just amused that your this booty blasted. Google Just the Right Hieght, No Bucket Required when you get some free time buddy.

>>86153910
As someone who composes music, I agree with him completely.

>>86153727
Oh. Well you should be able to fuck your dog. No reason you shouldn't be able to if you're allowed to eat it am I right?

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>>86153868
I don't think that's a copypasta, good job, you get a star.

>>86153395
I went to a gay club in England where I saw a cute redhead. He was kind of twitchy and had a hot voice and I thought it was attractive. We flirted for a bit and I was able to pull him into a bathroom stall. While I was blowing him in there, guys in stalls next to us were farting and he kept laughing and made fart noises of his own. He then kept saying "PUSSY" over and over laughing at himself. After he tried sticking a Mars Bar in my mouth I had enough and left. I later saw him leaving mackin on some fat racially ambiguous dude who looked like he was a christian.
After sobering up I realized it was IHE.

>>86153879
Well okay, but then you're just arguing moral absolutism. That's, to many people, not compelling.

>>86153995
>As someone who composes music
Sure thing buddy. Writing that on an anonymous post really makes your opinion more valid

>>86153879
Horses and Donkeys will mate, and procreate. BTFO kiddo

>>86153995
Then youre both wrong. Go listen to Good Vibrations, and face the corner for a while you fucking dunce

>>86153698
It is pretty pathetic if you can't argue logically of why you shouldn't. A principle not examined isn't much of a principle at all. I don't think you can claim moral superiority over even a mass murderer if you only think it's wrong to kill because you were told so. Then you're just in the same state as as animal operating off instinct, ironically enough.

>>86153898
Men are part beast and part god. If you think there is nothing to yourself but your basest desires you have made a mockery of everything you are.

You can find pleasure in wallowing in mud, but in the end you are not a pig, and you will find no satisfaction in living like one.

>>86154121
>BTFO kiddo
And their children are sterile

(Too much to reply to so just leaving this)

Killing for food is a destructive act while sex is a procriative act.
Almost any carnivorous/omnivorous animal has at least a primitive understanding that other animals must die in order to eat meat. There is no other motivation for even the most primeval arachnid to actively hunt for food and is probably the closest thing us and the arachnid could counciously and mutually agree upon.
Sex, however, has first and foremost always been a procriative adaptation. We are in the minority of animals that have sexual relations for pleasure without procriation and one of the only animals that fully understands the cause and effect relationship between sex and reproduction.
There is a reason why various mythologies portray sexual relations between men/men like beings and animals as producing hidius monsters. Bc when you have sex with a dog, you are telling everyone else in your species that you either feel that the dog is more worthy of your reproductive efforts or that you are to sexually incompetent to reproduce with someone of your own species.
Killing the animal is a disgrace to the animal
Having sex with an animal is a disgrace to you and your species

At least being sexually attracted to the same sex means that humans are still worthy of your reproductive efforts

>>86154095
>>86154126
No, it's objectively lazy. You're using a cheap trick to end a song instead of writing an ending. I can sympathize, and it's not like one cop-out is indicative of someone's entire discography. And judging by your responses, many people don't seem to mind, so I guess it doesn't really matter. Kinda like how modern movies tend to be methodical and appeal to a wide audience that just doesn't care.

>>86154236
Details anon, details.

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>>86153178
Woahwoahwoah. I was talking about I Hate Everything. He even made a video about people copping his format.
YMS sounds like a std or syndrome. Chicken lover syndrome.

>>86154174
Nigga this dude felt sorry for me because he couldn't convince me it's okay to fuck my dog. You're trying to guilt trip me, when I have perfectly reasonable arguments for not fucking fucking my fucking dog, you fuck.

>>86154010
From my perspective? No, but I can take the argument of why you shouldn't be able to farther than restating the other anon's opinion sarcastically without actually addressing why it's incorrect. Appealing to emotion is pretty stupid on an anonymous imageboard.

>>86153879
Niggers and humans mate between species and have fertile offspring. I assume you are against miscegenation if you are an ardent supporter of dignified human superiority?

>>86151353
Idk about everyone else but docg fucking is torturous for the dog, while killing for meat should (key word is should) be painless.
Yes, I know meat farms don't always treat animals humanely but that is why we protest farms that do so

>>86154336
>Niggers and humans mate between species and have fertile offspring
You have no idea what species means

>>86154191
Men are apex predators, 100% beast. Just because we have a great deal many more desires doesn't mean that satiating some of our more basic ones degrades us. You are only denying yourself if you do that.

>>86154319
I believe and agree with you, you should just say them to him

>>86154277
So a song can be 10 minutes long, 10 whole minutes of skilled instrumentation and beatiful layered complex composition, but if it fades out at the end its as if that preceding music never happened? Fuck you retard, a crescendo up of every instrument like in Day in The Life serves the same purpose as a crescendo down of everything getting quieter like in Good Vibrations

Only thing objective here is your autism

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>>86154251
Okay, but that shouldn't stop anyone from doing it. I mean there are people who fetishize the consumption of literal feces, which is pretty disgraceful if you ask me, but it is (and should remain) legal.

And if you're going make some argument about how scat fetish specifically isn't "disgraceful", don't bother. I could name thousands of other legal and disgusting fetishes.

>>86146806
That's his gimmick. I don't think he's that funny but he's entertaining enough to watch

>>86154338
>docg fucking is torturous for the dog
You don't seriously believe this, do you? Dogs like to fuck, and they really don't care about the details.

>>86154319
I wasn't trying to convince you it's okay to fuck a dog, you're entitled to having your wrong opinion. i just think it's sad that there are still kindly innocent people out there who still have the decency to be disgusted my zoophilia. Reminds me of when I was young and innocent.

>>86154453
Upvoted

>>86154447
>but if it fades out at the end its as if that preceding music never happened?
I didn't say that. Stop being so fucking sensitive. It's certainly a point against it though. The song would be better if it had a proper ending. That doesn't necessarily mean the song is bad, but it could be better. Everything in the world could be better when you really think about it.

>>86154328
I was being sincere. There is literally no reason why you shouldn't be able to make tender love to an animal if you are also okay slaughtering and consuming that animal.

>>86154453
Nice meme.its way less edgy to think that then to believe that humans are somehow above it all. Fucking moralfags.

>>86148732
there is a case where a dolphin made sexual advances towards a human

>>86147195
How is it called?

>>86154369
>he thinks black "people" are the same species as whites
Oh boy is this the pinnacle of /tv/'s intellectual prowess.

>>86154499
>I wasn't trying to convince you it's okay to fuck a dog
>I was just trying to convince you you're wrong to believe it's not okay to fuck your dog

>>86147076
He looks like a tall chad
probably gets british skanks daily

>>86154464
Eating feces is not a reproductive act and says nothing about reproductive efforts
You are missing the point where killing another animal for substinence is something virtually the entire carnivorous/omnivorous animal kingdom mutually understands and something that (virtually) only we have the abstract cognitive ability to understand

>>86149576
lol they had farms and cattle n shit wtf do you think they did with all that food?

there's a reason in the movies the peasants are always unable to pay the duke or whatever enough rice, because they fucking ate it you dumbass

I don't even know what you're arguing about but you're just wrong so fuck off

>>86154702
Is different from*

>>86154681
You don't have to fuck your dog man Jesus calm down. If YOU don't want to do it then don't. No reason other people shouldn't.

>>86153674
This, it's wrong because it's degenerate, nothing more complicated than that. Just like crime, drug abuse, pedophilia, bad parenting, promiscuity (more so for women), etc. A selfish act that diminishes the potential of the human animal by tiny individual increments. No coincidence that normal humans find all of these things disgusting on a deep and instinctive level.

>lol, everything is subjective guys, morality was just made up by humans for no reason. it's worked for us for thousands of years and built an amazing civilization, but I want to fuck my poodle so let's throw the whole thing out
postmodern academic thought is cancer. I dig the art though

>>86154680
Is every dog breed also a different species? You can still believe niggers are inferior without classifying them as a different species.

>TFW he loved TFA so much he had to make his first and only "I love" video about it
>he hates remakes and unoriginality
>he Loves TFA

See any inconsistencies here?

The fact that not only do people like the remake of ANH with shittier characters, but love it to the point where you have to gush over it constantly is beyond me

Also looking at you RLM

>>86154774
I never said you wanted me to fuck my dog, just that that would be okay in theory.

>>86154565
how is a fadeout not a proper ending? All your arguments rely on these non terms that dont mean anything. I provided specific examples of songs, artists, and albums that both fade out and "end properly" (which for most songs are just your standard big finish, like tons of cymbal crashes and tom rolls and guitar shredding). They both result in the same thing, the song ending. A fadeout usually means the band just played the basic rhythm of the song with no interesting changes so the fadeout suits it better than just boring the listener

Provide

Examples

You

Child

>>86154702
Plenty of animals like to fugg. They go in heat and fugg. Is no big deal to fugg them

>>86154865
Liking to fight =/= sexual pleasure from fugg =/= understanding the cause and effect relationship between fugg and offspring

>>86154776
>crime
>comparable to sticking your wiener in a cat or dog
Oh fuck off. There is no logic in that. Your appealing to some nonexistent higher concept of dignity that only exists inside your head if you think, if you genuinely believe, that making love to an animal degrades society in the same way that actual literal crime does. Or heck, even bad parenting. Bad parenting actually has long lasting effects. Fucking moral fags goddamn.

>>86154982
>degrades society

Moral fag

>>86154791
They are genetically different enough that you can go and make the comparison of donkeys to horses or zebras or some other equid.

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>>86154829
Hey man, I am okay with you ducking your dog. You do you boo boo. No skin off my back.

>>86154982
Yeah, Morty *BURP* there is no God, Morty *BURP*. Morality is an u-*BURP*-seless invention by stupid *BURP* people, Morty.

>>86155047
>I stoop to the moral fags level
>they beat me at their own game
Damn nigga I guess I got played

>>86155048
I don't think that's how classification of the animal kingdom works.

I actually kinda like him lol

>>86155139
>heh, don't you know that Goddess wants us to cruelly slaughter animals buddy? But fucking them? No way, Goddess doesn't play that way XD
Simply Ebin :^)

>>86155105
Hey, cool, im actually in the screencap, post this to r/4chan would you please?

>>86155156
How much quantifiable amount of "social degradation" do you need in order for an action to become a crime
You say that it isn't comparable to equate interspecies sex to what you call a "crime"
having relations with animals effects your relationship with other people and can thus be socially degrading and resulting in long lasting effects

>>86155105
kek

>>86154982
Not saying they're comparable in severity, just in character, and that there's a reason normal people find it disgusting. I don't find the arguments against finding it disgusting/degenerate, which are based on a philosophical conceit less than a century old and (in my view) contrary to human instinct, very convincing.

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>>86155219
You get the idea though. Bugs are incredibly genetically dissimilar. Or at least the purebred niggers are. Not that every moon cricket is bad. Nature is only a part of it, some good nurturing helps a ton.
>pic related
It's my boy Tyrese

>>86152548
That is a really old phrase you stupid new fuck.

>>86155355
Not if you do it in secret. If you commit a murder in secret it still fucks up
Society cuz you killed someone nigga smhtbqhfamalampai

>>86155105
Saved

>>86155467
I said YOUR relationship with other people
Not other people's relationship with you

If you weren't already a messed up autist before shagging an animal, you'd mess yourself up right afterwards

>>86155667
So it's okay to fuck animals in secret if you are already a degenerate artist?

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Friendly reminder that anyone who views humans as having dignity higher than that of a base animal should be against the abject cruelty inflicted upon animals by industrialized slaughterhouses and what not. It took a true hero and believer in the state, and in mankind, to give rise to these ideas and it's our duty to make sure they aren't forgotten. If you truly believe that fucking an animal is degenerate then you must also support veganism. We have evolved to become herbivores, so why inflict cruelty on creatures who should be our companions, our friends.

>>86156003
Please give me another animal that agrees that having sex with other species is ok
Because I can give you a large list of animals that would agree that killing other species for food is ok.

Killing animals puts them down and us up
Having sex with them puts us down and them up

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>>86156165
I saw a webm on /b/ the other day of a dog that fucked a duck to death

>>86156165
Nigga how an animal gonna agree with you? You speak coyote or dolphin or shit? I bet an antelope would disagree with humans killing and shit, especially since we don't NEED to kill animals to survive.

>>86156165
So if you fuck something to death, it's a net neutral? What about killing it and then fucking it, or fucking it and then killing it.

>>86156003
>killing other animals to eat them and make ourselves stronger
benefits humanity
>having sex with other animals, children, or genetic dead-ends
hurts humanity

It's not complicated anon.

Gays get a pass because it's good to have extra men around that won't fight over women or whatever

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>>86156517
No, continuing to rely and prey upon animals hurts us in the same way that abusing them through sexual assault hurts us. Have some self respect and dignity and choose the vegan option. And then procreate with a human.
It's really that simple anon ^_^

>>86156517
But none of this really matters. It's not like humanity is in any danger of going extinct, barring a nuclear holocaust or rogue meteor.

>>86156323
A lion and I can both agree that something has to die in order for us to eat meat. I have not seen this same mutual understanding with sex on any notable scale

>>86156424
I believe killing animals for something other than food or protection is immoral. Also, if you kill it and then fugg it, you are wasting reproductive effort on something that is both dead and not of your species
If you kill it while fugging it (with no intention of killing it, it's the same as fugging and not killing (same goes for killing after fugging)

>>86156517
Eating meat has been scientifically proven to be bad for modern evolved man, particularly bad for your heart, and somewhat bad for your brain with regards to degenerating diseases. Fucking a horse on the other hand, is nice and disease free. Hurts no one

>>86156756
What about fugging to death on purpose. To assert your dominance or some shit.

>>86153910
Its an opinion. I'd say its neither good or bad. But i would expect more than that arrogance coming from a "song writer"

A song's quality is entirely dependent on its goals and aesthetic. Generally I think the more writing and more thought that goes into a song the better it will be. In that sense YMS is correct, but there's certainly some pop tunes or rock anthems that use that structure fine.

>>86156815
I said the same goes for that
It's a waste of your reproductive efforts and shows incompetence in finding a human mate

>>86156756
An elephant and I can both agree that lions can fuck off. And elephants are smart enough to bury their dead. Hmmm almost like animals that don't eat meat are smarter. Also, I would argue that a lion's understanding of have sex, make baby is on par with its understanding off kill, eat. So fucking the lion wouldn't really "elevate" it while "lowering" humanity

>>86156902
>>86156756
No, you said "with no intention of killing it"
If you kill an animal to eat it, but do it by rape not because of a failure to find a mate, but simply because you can, how is that any worse for humanity than the soulless slaughterhouse? It isn't a waste of productive effort because you weren't reproducing, you were slaughtering an animal for food. Or is there an "approved way of cruelly killing animals via slaughterhouse" that is """Dignity of Man""" approved, oh arbiter of truth and morality.

>>86156972
This isn't a contest to see if herbivores are smarter than carnivors (btw dolphins)

Also, I haven't seen anything that suggests that animals like lions have sex knowing the cause and effect relationship between sex and reproduction as opposed to sexual urges being instinctual.

>>86157188
They hunt out of I stict too, what's your point? And where's your proof that animals have no idea where babies come from? I know there are plenty of females of various species who will refuse a males advances. You k ow why? It's because they are looking for a better mate, because they know that ficki ficki makes for the babies.

>>86157297
Immediate benefit from hunting and eating food =/= the benefit of offspring after a prolonged period of time without immediate intuitive connection between the two
Also, humans don't constantly calculate the traits of a potential that would produce healthy offspring in order to discern sexual attraction. Why would animals?

>>86157515
>humans don't constantly calculate the traits of a potential that would produce healthy offspring in order to discern sexual attraction
Ask me how I know you're a virgin. There's a reason Fatso McNeckbeard isn't having kids any time soon.

>>86154026
I believe you

>>86156621
>stop eating cows and pigs
>now have millions of domesticated animals, bred specifically for consumption over thousands of years and useless in the wild, that we have to deal with
so what do we do, the PETA thing and just genocide them all? How is that better?

I agree the factory farms are unnecessarily cruel and other animals deserve some basic dignity, but honestly it's hard to imagine a comfier life for livestock than living on a nice farm. Right up until you get killed, hopefully painlessly, and your flesh serves the interests of a superior organism. I just don't see the problem. Obviously no animal wants to die, but they all do anyway. I'm pro-fur for the same reason, if you're killed by a hunter you get to live on as a nice piece of art made by a human, I'd prefer that to just rotting in the wilderness somewhere.

>>86156733
>improving humans no longer matters because it's unlikely we'll die now
Pretty myopic anon. Things can always be improved and they can certainly degenerate. It's happened before. You're right that meat eating specifically is not exactly a lynchpin of modern civilization, but we're debating principles here.

>>86156758
>best source of fat and protein, which we need to run our brains and muscles
>bad
Nah. Everything's bad out of proportion, but that's not an issue for someone with a decently diverse diet.

Anyway, most meat will be lab grown by the end of the century and livestock will live in zoos. And degenerates can fuck animals in VR. Then everyone will be happy.

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>>86157515
>wide berthing hips
>big milk producing tits
Don't take long for a nigga to calculate tbqh XD

>>86157666
>Breeding a species in captivity to be slaughtered, forcing them to breed only so that we can raise, breed, and slaughter their young
Yes let's just end it all for them. We can eat meat again once it's all 100% lab grown. Let's just eat avocados in the mean time

>>86157598
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D-1RNJf9e0E

Consiusly calculating the traits of a potential mate based off of how healthy potential children would look like is more of a trait of social ineptitude desu
Is potential children really the forefront of your conscious mind when trying to pick someone up at a social gathering?

>>86157894
Dumb phone poster

>>86157894
Then why is it that conventionally attractive also happen to be those who have distinct evolutionary benefits (big muscles, big tits, whatever)? Whether you know it or not, your tastes are rooted in instinct.

>>86157669
It's not calculation
It's intuition and aesthetics

You might think your Korean cartoons are sexually atrtractive with having full knowledge that you will never be able to reproduce with one.

>>86157666
Dude, just watch the undercover videos that people shot in the various slaughter houses around North America.
Might as well watch "The Cove" and "Silent Scream" after the slaughter vids.
Bring popcorn and milk duds.

>>86158006
Correct
It's instinct, not calculation

>>86157782
meh, there are probably hundreds of millions of humans on this planet in worse situations. Vegans/vegetarians should devote their time/money/effort to helping with that stuff if they have all this compassion to spare. Like I said, farm life seems pretty comfy the vast majority of the time. Aside from the having your kids taken thing, and anyway most other animals don't form nearly as strong bonds with their offspring as we do.

>>86158058
I am aware of how fucked up they are, and I generally try to avoid buying from places like that. It seems like they're on the way out in the west anyway, hooray capitalism. I don't see a pressing moral issue with the idea of livestock, just the way it's sometimes done.

>>86146806
This fag never had a funny joke or original thought in any video

>>86158103
Most of the """people""" on earth who are in worse situations are jiggaboos or zipperheads, fucking jungle bunnies and slicky boys, coons and slants. Fuck em, I care more about cows than them.

>>86158310
lol

>>86146806
Nah, he's /ourguy/.

>>86158006
Also how can you recognize these evolutionary benefits in things like illustrations and statues knowing full well that you will never reproduce with one?
Childbearing is on the back burner of your mind when choosing mates rather than the forefront and your mind makes shortcuts in determining that in spite of your will. What you find sexually attractive is based on evolutionary benifit but that is not what one actually feels when being turned on.
Think of all the proportions, movements, and colorations that need to be just right in order for a face to even look human let alone be sexually attractive. There is no way you could acuratly measure the distance between the eyes, the length of the head, the size of the nose, etc before you determine if it was both human and attractive.

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There's literally no reason not to fuck horses.

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>>86159223
This

>>86158273
Alright Capitalism. Score one for nature.
Not some bleeding heart vegen, but I watched a bunch of those and the last two,
because "hey man, check this out," an got me thinkin is all. Wasn't trying to chastise or anything.

>>86146806
No
>>86147073
Wrong

>>86159513
no worries man. agree that people should see that stuff

>>86150838
>>86151451
Pusssyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>86147330
Kek