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What went wrong?
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No Cooper
No coherent plot
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lynch
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>>86065837
>inb4 LYNCHED
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nothing
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>>86065860
>no coherent plot
umm have you ever watching lynch's stuff before
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People went in thinking the most important part of a show satirising soap operas was the soap opera.
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>>86066059
It's not satirising anything any more, it's taking itself too seriously
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WE'RE HAVING DINNER WITH OUR UNCLE

SHE HASN'T SEEN HIM IN A VERY LONG WHILE

WE HAVE MILES TO GO

ARGHHHHH ARGHHHHH ARGHHHHH

this is the only thing I've seen from the new season. is the rest of it as great?
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>>86065837

Judy.
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Literally nothing.
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>The Roadhouse is proud to present James Hurley
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>>86065837
its good
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>>86065860
>no coherent plot
>the plot is perfectly coherent
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>>86067388
best girl right there
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>>86066180
how pleb can you possibly be

all the episodes leading up to 8 were pure satire, both of modern TV dramas and of the first two seasons of Twin Peaks, and of course the fallacy of middle American "purity" that Lynch has been playing with since Dumbland. past episode 8 the show has been more about addressing the most important loose threads of the series fiction and being the kind of mindfuck Lynch is known for producing. the only thing I've missed is the pure horror of the original series. so far the only scary bits have been the experiment model's introduction and Laura's ghost
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Chrysta Bell as Tammy. Chrysta may be hot, but she is absolutely terrible at acting. The worst performer to have ever been in Twin Peaks. She's worse than the guy who played Leo.
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>>86065837
>fix your hearts and die
>retard coop
>tammy
>audrey is a cunt married to a midget
>pointless subplots
>JUST YOU
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>>86067732
>>JUST YOU
>getting mad about something that's literally one of the funniest moments in Twin Peaks
You deserve to be laughed at.
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>>86065837

no REAL Cooper
boring characters
confusing plot
too many characters
scenes are too long
not enough action
the music scenes at the end of every episode
old cast isn't featured enough
editing is all over the place
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>>86067607
>
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>ridiculously slow pacing
>half the scenes with actors literally saying nothing, staring at each other for minutes with no dialogue
>ending sequences with random crappy bands that serve nothing to the plot other than to fill time
>countless random scenes that serve nothing to the plot
>reusing same plot devices episode after episode
>le dougie adventures! xD
>filler
>filler
>more filler

It's like lynch didn't take into account what made Twin Peaks such an interesting series, even FWWM had more plot development and we've seen over 13 hours this. The only people who are liking this show are contrariness who don't remember why Twin Peaks was good in the first place. Lynch has a warped sense of what made the show successful and now he's burning it into the ground like he did with the last half of season 2.
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It's almost perfect, just irritating when Lynch seems to be doing shit solely for the sake of being alienating
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You never go Full Lynch. That's what went wrong. And right. Can you believe S4 is fucking happening because this shit is printing hipster dollars for Showtime? I love it.
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>>86065837
when they doubled the episodes, probably fucked up the pacing
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>>86067788
>dumb joke is dumb
>hey this joke is dumb
>y-you're triggered! nu-Peaks is kino!!
take Lynch's sagging balls out of your mouth kid
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>a board full of retards arguing about braindead capeshit, adult swim cartoons and game of plebs have negative opinions about actual art
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It is truly going to be great when people rewatch this season as 1 complete movie and it's a complete incoherent mess.
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>>86068188
>all those hours people wasted debating and coming up with theories to explain what's going on
>no explanation by the final episode and the season just ends on a random cliffhanger
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From everything I've seen Lynch himself is now the main character. Cooper is still a child-like moron with no hint of coming back with barely any screen time.
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>>86068283
I have no doubt in my mind that this will absolutely end on a cliffhanger.
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>>86068373
Yeah, Lynch's self-insert is now the main character and he even wrote his irl side piece into the show as his sidekick. Bravo, Lynch.
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>>86065837
all the return has given us are thousands of bandwaggoners and newfags in twin peaks threads
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The only good episode was 8 and that's because its a made for television Eraserhead with evil skull crushing ghost bums.
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>lynch jerking off all over the screen whilst laughing in your face

>people call it "art"

you're all being played for fools
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>Coopfag circlejerk: the thread
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>>86065837
Saged.
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>>86067723
I don't think she's that bad. In all honesty I think Tom Sizemore's acting has been fucking terrible so far
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>>86067607
agreed, she was wholesome af
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>>86065837
Filler episodes and Lynch made himself a main character. The FBI scenes are ridiculously slow and shitty.
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>>86068119
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>>86068574
This. If ANY other director did the 'sweeping scene', they'd literally never work in film or television again. But Lynch does it, it's kino, it's hilarious, it's classic Lynch. It's a crock of shit from his dickriders that would applaud anything he puts his name on as brilliant.
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>>86068912
yeah you see that argument dosnt work no more, like 100 discussions of lynch ago
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>>86065837
this is the real /tpg/
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>>86068574
that's the power of lynch
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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Les Moonves recorded a song that plays during the Twin Peaks finale. It confirms Twin Peaks returns for another season and is a masterpiece of television. (Pic is Les)

Listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI-Lukyr4UY
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>>86065837
nothing you pleb
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>>86065837
>What went wrong?
ahahaha
L

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everything
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>>86067723
>thinking Leo's character was not shittily acted on purpose.
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>>86067940
You're right on all counts except for
>Lynch has a warped sense of what made the show successful and now he's burning it into the ground like he did with the last half of season 2.
Lynch had nothing to do with season 2 going to shit. If anything, his coming back for the finale is what salvaged it from being forgotten.
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every episode has been shit except for episode 8. I know his formula now. Film whatever the fuck he wants for half the time, then sneak in a few pretentious "arthouse" scenes for hipsters to orgasm over and reel them back in. expect another "episode 8" near the last few episodes.
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>>86067616
>the fallacy of middle American "purity" that Lynch has been playing with since Dumbland
THIS. Lynch never played with this topic prior to 15 years ago
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>>86067790
>too many characters
>scenes are too long
>not enough action
I bet you love capeshit
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>>86065837
Nothing, the new season is perfect.
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ha ha the other twin peaks thread is just one guy samefagging his precious memes
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She did something to guck up her face, right? You can't age like that.
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>>86067790

>no REAL Cooper

>>>/reddit/
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>>86068576
>how dare people want a universally beloved main character to have a proper comeback in a show that was heavily advertised as being his big return

Why do LYNCHEDposters not seem to get that? I love the new season but I can understand why people are frustrated over this.
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>>86066059
it was never satirizing soap operas
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Were people really hoping for another 18 hours of soap opera and Coop trying to solve another Windham Earle? The Return would have been Season 2: Part 2.
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>>86069277
so, blue velvet was released in 1986
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>a board that loves capeshit hates twin peaks
oh no!
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>>86065837
>THIS IS NOW A PICKLE RICK THREAD
I TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLE MORTY!
>THIS IS NOW A PICKLE RICK THREAD
I TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLE MORTY!>THIS IS NOW A PICKLE RICK THREAD
I TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLE MORTY!
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Not enough OH ANGELO music
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>>86069389
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>>86065951
see
>>86065882
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Not enough James
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>>86069464
I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT
>YOU LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT
WE LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT
I LIKE TO
>MOVE IT
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>>86068373
He was a child like moron in the original series too, bro. Only difference is that he was coherent enough to pass for seeming intelligent.

The parts you remember and like about Cooper are very clearly still there in Dougie. Just watch his body language and expressions.
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The problem with the LYNCHED posters is that they just repeat this phrase ad nauseam, without giving any actual rebuttals to the criticisms. How about some fucking arguments as to why the complaints are wrong? This is the equivalent of someone criticizing Batman v. Superman and the only rebuttals are "LOL SNYDERED! PLEBS BTFO!"
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>>86069567
>He was a child like moron
no he was a universally beloved icon of comfiness
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>>86069797
t. little brainlet
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>>86066180
>It's not satirising anything any more

>>86069392
>it was never satirizing soap operas

How old are you two? Be honest now.
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>>86066552
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>>86069797
ahahaha
L

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C

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E

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stay mad
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nothing. This has been all about the journey, not the destination. And from what we've seen so far, what questions did you have from the first two seasons that don't look like the are going to be addressed the season? Did people really want 18 episodes of Coop doing FBI shit in Twin Peaks again? How would that work without it just turning into the second half of season 2?
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The problem with the PICKLE RICK posters is that they just repeat this phrase ad nauseam, without giving any actual rebuttals to the criticisms. How about some fucking arguments as to why the complaints are wrong? This is the equivalent of someone criticizing Rick and Mortyu and the only rebuttals are "LOL PICKLE RICK! WUB A LUB DUB!"
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>>86069878
>>86069982
I like the show you fucking faggots. But you and the rest of the /tpg/ hivemind are the equivalent of the supposed "brainlets" you ridicule. Lacking the critical insight to defend the show you supposedly love.
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>>86065860
The plot's perfectly coherent, it's just moving at such a slow pace that it can feel like there's no plot whatsoever sometimes.
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>>86069567
>cynical millennial cunts see a good-hearted and optimistic person as a "child like moron"
worst generation
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Episode 3 and every other episode after that is what went wrong..

It's been absolute shit
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>>86070182
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>>86070135
>This has been all about the journey, not the destination.
yeah? well the journey sucked
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>>86069397
they were hoping it'd be like the new X-Files. Same characters only older and doing the exact same thing they did in the original run.
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>>86070157
>The joke is "WUB A LUB DUB DUB"
AKA: LOUD NONSENSICAL NOISES

Do you want a fucking essay?
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>>86067790
Imagine that all of your criticisms are what Lynch has intended you feel at this point. Then try to draw a conclusion re: what he's trying to say. If you can't do this, you deserve a LYNCHED because you have been LYNCHED.
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>>86070348
Only because you're busy expecting things you want instead of focusing on what you've got.
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dougie get emmy
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>>86065951
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>>86070831
MISTER emmies.
helooOOOOoo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Twin_Peaks
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ded thred
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>>86065953
>gets to spend time with hot as fuck girls all day on set and flirt with them on camera

how does Lynch do it?
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>>86067723
THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE SHELLY
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>>86067723
i love her
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>>86069567
Nope. Smart guy playing dumb in order to weasel his way in and make people comfortable. Then he get honest info he's looking for.

This is in contrast to Albert who plays an asshole and muscles people. Ciooer has a method. He's not some quirky bumbling fool.
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>>86067871
those are lynch's arms, by the way
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>>86065837
Not enough Dougie
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>>86073130
big if true
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I want more lodge scenes and more spooky coded shit. Scare me more like last episode of S2 and stop showing me jungle gyms/Dr Jacoby. I'm still waiting for the giant's numbers to be worked in.
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>>86073162
Literally every shot of Dougie where you can't see his face is actually Lynch. It's a pretty amazing extra element to the scenes he's in when you see which ones, specifically, that is, and start to sort of puzzle out why it be and what it's trying to say.
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>>86073284
>what it's trying to say
"I enjoy fucking Naomi Watts"
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>>86073279
Jungle gym scene was kino, wtf are you talking? You're not a hothead, are you?

Dr. Jacoby / Nadine scenes are absolute cancer, though. The joke was only funny the first time.

Speaking of Nadine...wtf is going on Ed and Norma? Are they together or what? Is she cucking him with the franchise guy?
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Filmed as a movie, not a show and then edited poorly because of that. This is why the quality of episodes is incredibly unbalanced and inconsistent. Also, Lynch once again refusing to not experiment.
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>>86066528
I too use reddit
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>>86073546
>Filmed as a movie, not a show and then edited poorly because of that
This is half true. It was filmed as a movie, but it was always intended to be 18 hours, so the copious amounts of filler is there on purpose.
Showtime originally wanted it be only 10 or 12 episodes...which is probably the amount of shit that actually matters.
>10-minute sweeping scene
What the FUCK was he thinking?
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>>86073279
>>86073479
Jacoby scenes are haunted in the same way Sara's scenes are, with background objects shifting slightly indoors, and cgi stuff done to the trees in any outdoor shots. You only see Nadine watching him, and there was none of the shifting in the first scene, but in the next two, there is. And then he comes to see her in person, and as they talk, her curtain starts moving on its own in the display and she's so in it now she doesn't even notice. Just, some examples of things you might notice if you would look at the screen and not at your phone half the time you watch thing show.
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>>86065837
I feel like they aren't going to be able to wrap everything up in four episodes.
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Based on the credits rolling/Ed scene, it almost made it seem he could be the next BOB. He seems on the edge of a break.

And when is BOB (rip in peace) going to make an appearance? I thought the bums stole it out if bad coop, but last episode they said he has something they want. So wtf is going on...is the evil spirit going to land in someone else? Who is the next Laura Palmer? Just ideas
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>>86065837
They went past the "Wouldn't it be funny if we did this?" and actually did it.
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>>86073632
>her curtain starts moving on its own in the display
retard, it's on automatic. watch the establishing shots again.
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>>86073644
Look at Ed's reflection in that scene
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>>86073642
five, not four
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>>86073598
>10 minutes
It's not actually 10 minutes, it only feels like 10 minutes because you have ADHD.
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>>86073743
l y n c h e d
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>>86073801
screencap?
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>>86073842
You have to see it in motion
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>>86073598
I think it's his regret over what he couldn't do with FWWM and therefore he's not willing to risk condensing a single minute of what he wants to show.
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>>86073642
It has already wrapped. All is well.
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>>86073801
I can't see it in the webm. Maybe my eyes are going. Reflections are a thing though.

To the faggot above Tha doesn't deserve a (you), I didn't see objects moving in on Sara. Took me a few loops to realize the boxing was in repeat. But it reminded me of ep8 and "the well" hypnosis shit. Not in my phone either, I even tell my gf to STFU because she complains that it's confusing but refuses to hear explanations
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Nothing. It's an absolutely excellent show. What went wrong with you?
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>>86074012
are you autistic?
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>>86067388

I want some cherry pusy
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>>86074018
The show started off as kino, but it's really taken a sharp downturn over the last two episodes.
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>>86074012
>doesn't deserve a (you)
literacy reddit
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>>86069797
>a kinoless brainlet who dosen't like Twin Peaks The Return is also blind to the artistry of BvS

Why am I not surprised.
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Think about the movies Lynch has done right and notice that they are nothing like this series. Its decent enough and I've been enjoying it but I can't take it too seriously as a work of art like Easerhead was
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>>86074502
twin peaks was always like that, FWWM gave the series some depth with the whole abuse thing
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>>86074621
Yeah, there's less abuse / fucked up shit in this season. There's only the lingering effect of it. S3 feels more like a commentary about change and getting old, than anything else.
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>>86074502
This new season is much more similar to his movies then the original show. Eraserhead is a bad example because that's nothing like anything else he's done.
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>>86074153
>>86074235

Cool meme posts famalams. Pic unrelated.
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>>86074661
yeah S3 does seem to have a pretty large focus on how times have changed since then
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Literally nothing went wrong and it's a miracle that we got something so fucking good.
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>>86074185

I get disliking episode 12 (and even that had some really funny dialogue) but the last episode was great.
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>>86074671
Plebs will say ep8 is similar to eraserhead, but that's only because it's black and white.
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Nothing will ever top Mulholland Drive and TP S1 unfortunately (also FWWM is kino)
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>>86074884
>Nothing will ever top Mulholland Drive and TP S1
The only people I can imagine saying this are people who don't like Lynch's work.
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ha ha /tv/ STILL cannot handle blue velvet
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So I wonder how they're gonna get Coop to Twin Peaks again? He's been messing around in Las Vegas. I'm hoping that a failed attempt on his life by Todd will unscramble Coops brain.

That way he can face off against Mr. C & get rid of him & BOB before ending the series with him, Dougie's wife & Sonny Jim eating Cherry Pie together with the entire cast.
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Nothing.
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Lynch fell out of love with his audience. He got too much creative control. He had to do too many rewrites. You name it.

He knows it's shit and probably feels demoralized that so many brainless admirers think this is good work of his.
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>>86075218
Ep 8 was good but yeah, the rest of the season has been a polished turd so far.
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I went in thinking this was the final season. That's what.
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>>86075136

I fully expect his arc to end with him snapping out of it, but deciding to stay in Vegas with his new family, leaving either his FBI buddies or his Twin Peaks police buddies to deal with it.
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>>86075362
I wouldn't mind fucking his wife. Way she rode Coop was whew. Especially how loud she got. That was pretty hot.

I'm sure she could've gone longer if Coop wasn't almost brain dead. Different positions, she'd be screaming like a banshee that the neighbors could hear.
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>>86075362
completely wrong, dougie will end up in twin peaks and shortly after (or in the next ep) will get his "soul" back
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>>86066180
Why satirize soap operas in 2017? What Soap opera has been culturally relevant in the last 10 years? It has to adapt for the times, anything else would be regessive. Just like how Lynch and Frost subverted expectations for a television show in 1990 they do in 2017, doing something completely new for a completely new landscape.
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>>86069389
If you want fan service watch Star Wars and Marvel and leave kino for the big boys.
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Make way for Oscar.
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>>86073896
Can't you just say what it is?
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>>86066180
It's parodying gritty crime dramas like Breaking Bad. You really think the scenes with the Mitchum brothers are to be taken seriously?
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>wrong
>Showtimes biggest show
>Best series of 2017
>Most risk taking series in a long time
There are slight issues I have with it but you're objectively wrong if you think it's not on the right track.
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>>86067790
>>86067940

You both really shouldn't watch anything Lynch has done if you're going to have these shitty opinions that casuals also have. I hate to use the saying "You just don't get it". but y'all literally do not get it.
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>>86077055
It's classified.
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>>86065837
Is it weird that I actually like season 3 probably more than the original?
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>>86077717
No, because it is better. Not as good as the movie though.
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>>86077717

I dunno. All three season and the movie are very different in tone and storytelling and it's hard to compare them. I'll make my judgement once the season's over.
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I gotta ask. Was Lynch fucking trolling us with the end of the last episode? Having James singing that shitty fucking song.
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>>86067940
you're 100% right, it's just anons who know that people really really loved the original series who post the LE LYNCHED XD shit because they know it pisses you off. but in truth, they're just aware as you that the show is a massive disappointment so far

another thing you forgot to mention is all the celebrities popping in. clearly another case of Lynch letting the acclaim go to his head because every B, C, and D lister in every episode just wants Twin Peaks in their filmography and I'm sure endlessly sucks his dick in production. Did we really need "less funny Rob Riggle" as the fucking sheriff?

when i heard Frost was co-writing I had faith that Lynch wouldn't fuck up the script needlessly, but I was wrong. and the direction isn't much better. people on this board who creamed themselves with the tracking shot in that motel after amanda seyfried shot through the door need to be euthanized.
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>>86066014
>>86066014
Yes there's no plot it's so scatterbrained and slow
>>86070200
Some what

>>86077464
I feel like it's just too slow and up it's own ass and being pretentious for the sake of pretentious. It's not like lynches work is that deep or hard to understand but this is just so boring like he could have cut out 6 or so episodes and the show would still feel the same.

I also feel like now that we know everything abotu Laura TP is kinda lost it's driving force, really think about it what's the end goal/mystery now?
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>>86077814

I thought it was kinda heartwarming.
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>>86077702
Different anon here.
Why does he suddenly drop the cup in the reflection? I don't understand the significance of that. Is it just cut badly or something? Also, I'm not aure if obly the reflection is sucking in the straw and not he himself, but what would the significance in there be?
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>>86068119
>a board full of retards arguing about braindead capeshit, adult swim cartoons and game of plebs are smart enough to not think nu twin peaks is any good when your retarded ass does
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>>86077702
>has to blow out the contrast to make it noticeable
what a clue
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>>86065860
Cooper is there, it's just his evil version
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>>86065860
The plot is perfectly coherent. Do you actually expect all the plot threads to immediately match up? Is this your first TV show?
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>>86077880
Thank you for understanding.

Yes Lynch can make convoluted stuff, but think about how much information or subtle stuff is in Mulholland Drive or Blue Velvet. But The Return is just a man repeating himself for 20 minutes and a character uncovering 1 new clue in the B plot, and someone dying random just for a little bit of Le gore.

It's boring and slow and people are only giving it a pass becuase it has the TP name on it and it's Lynch, but it's objectively bad compared to the original, which moved the plot forward constantly and gave you a reason to watch the following week.

Also the tone is all over the place.
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>>86074172
1950s grills didn't shave down there tho.
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>>86077814
of course he was
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>>86067723
In glad she's a shit actress because it gives her a character
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>>86077885
>I feel like it's just too slow and up it's own ass
Go to bed Quentin.
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>>86069567
I wouldn't say moron just a Mary Sue. I think Dougie is an exaggerated form of Coop's Mary sue-ness
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>>86077938
You must be joking. He can't sing and it's a meme at this point considering how much people originally hated when he sung it the first time
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>>86078124
You know I'm right so you don't counter argue you just tell me to go to bed.
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Anyone that doesn't like the dougie scenes either has no sense of humour or no sense of the immense sadness of them
They're easily some of my favourite parts of the season
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>>86078160

I didn't mind it back then either, to be honest. It's a sweet little song.
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>>86078169
You're right by having a subjective opinion and a shitty one at that.
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>>86068574
I didn't like Inland Empire and I didn't like Dune. If Lynch makes something that's shit, I'll say it's shit.

Twin Peaks season 3 is one of the best TV show seasons of all time
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>>86078245
Still not arguing.

You could be explaining why it's not slow paced or up it's own ass by giving examples of how the plot has moved forward in the last few episodes or giving examples or dialogue or scene of significance.

My opinion wasn't even that subjective, it's one that could have easily been argued for or against
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>>86078260
Dune was not Lynch's fault and you should know this by now.

I think the only objectively bad film he's done was Wild at Heart.
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>>86073279
Sonny Jim's jungle gym was funny
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>>86073598
It's obviously a joke like the elevator doors in Eraserhead
You're meant to be sitting there waiting for something to happen that you know is going to happen, and that's funny
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>>86073644
Frank Silva is dead so they've only been able to use stills of his head
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>>86078359
Everything you're saying is 100% subjective and you cannot prove otherwise because you don't understand how words work. I'm not arguing with your opinions because that's exactly what they are. What is the point of arguing them when it's about personal taste and neither of us are going to change what we think afterwards.

You are free to have your shitty opinions and I respectfully disagree.
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>>86074185
The mobsters walking into the insurance office in a conga line while playing music is the definition of kino
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>>86074661
It has tried to make it clear that the same shit that happened in Twin Peaks before is still going on. There's the Becky/Shelly parallels, the Renault guy talking about 16 year old prostitutes, references to schoolgirls dying of drug overdoses etc etc
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>>86078029
Yeah. I IMMEDIATELY knew something was wrong with the direction with the show in the first episode or two

all those scenes of that guy in New York watching the glass cube going on forever and nothing happening was the first thing.

the second was when BOB Coop goes to kill Darya in that motel room.

Lynch directing a scene where a woman fearing for her life knows a man who very well might kill her could walk in a room any second should be masterfully done by him if his past works is anything to go by. And we get a sterile, boring motel room, a wooden and laconic performance from MacLachlan, absolutely no tension whatsoever since we know she is dead the second he finds the gun, a boring ass long-take shot from a couple of feet away, some pretty shitty dialogue and that was it for what should have been a showstopper scene.

but this is 2017 lynch who wants to shoehorn in his celebrity friends like Chrysta Bell or Trent Reznor into his show. maybe he forgot how to direct. maybe he just doesn't care anymore. I mean he did hold showtime hostage and "inadvertently" started a fan crusade against the network when they didn't want him to direct.
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>>86075362
I really want Cooper to stay with Janey-E. she's much better than waifubait
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Dougie is like watching your dad develop Alzheimers and become senile before death.
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>>86077814
There is no other way to explain it and "James has always been cool". Remember that Lynch is very tech savvy and is no doubt aware of what the internet thinks about James
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>>86078575
nice brain you got there brainlet
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>>86078595
Cooper should be with Audrey and take her virginity. No Billy Zane and midget husband never happened.
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>>86078660
dont be jealous, im sure you'll one day grow one as big as it
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>>86078365
I don't think he's entirely blameless for Dune
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>>86078575
Those "boring", "wooden" scenes are loaded with ambient tension tbqh
The entirety of Season 3 is using the emptiness aesthetic, whether it's the way scenes are presented, the pristine, stop-motion nature of the visual effects, or the quiet, but ever present droning background noise that occupies "silent" scenes. There's a reason why Papa Lynch wants people to watch this on the big screen, in the dark, with the volume high on headphones.
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Nothing's gone wrong, it's a good show.
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>>86078575
Why isn't this more like my procedurals?!? Get me Dick Wolf and Speed Weed! I can't take these slow scenes that make me pay attention to the artifice.
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>>86078760
At least it's not trying to be tumblr bait, like Stranger Things.
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>>86072015
That's Kyle "Kale" MacLachlan, he's not a girl
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>>86078712
If he had complete control it would of been good.
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>>86078794

It's pretty much one of the few, if only anti-nostalgia fag properties that had something come before it available to watch. That cheeky bit of fan service in the recent episode had its own weight to it besides having tumblr fags go "OMG JAMES GO AWAY".
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>>86078843
Why do you say this as if James is not a problem?
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>>86078879

James has always been cool anon.
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>>86078843
>fan service
It's literally parodying the old series and how bad it got - the James solo thing is intentional, and I'm sure James' actor and Lynch had a big giggle about it at the end of filming.
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Best Lynch film?

I'm having trouble deciding between Blue Velvet, Eraserhead, and Elephant Man. FWWM is a close fourth.
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>>86078923
James' actor is having a giggle just for being employed on an actual show that's popular.
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>>86078773
Lynch has directed "slow scenes" that are leagues more engrossing and interesting than the shit we are getting in season 3.

To think 'WAHHHHH ITS TOO SLOW' is the complaint when I clearly spelled it out for you why that scene sucks (when lynch himself has directed scenes like that before to great effect) it just shows me you're a contrarian looking to argue, and im not going to give you the dignity. I will however give you the advice to watch some of Lynch's other works or to read a book on effective directing so you can educate yourself.
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>>86078843
That's one of the things I like about the new season the most. It's still Twin Peaks in its core themes, but they completely stripped away the superficial aspects of it and replaced it with something new. I also like how they've turned a fan favourite characters like Audrey and Cooper into something completely different. That takes genuine balls
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>>86078575
I like the start personally every thing up to the episode where Dougie uncovers the files.

My issue with the show has become WTF is the point/motive I don't have a reason to care, it's barely involving the town it's named after it fill more like random filler after random filler. It's so schizophrenic in both tone and content I hate it. Doguie has become more than a mary-sue everything just goes his way but what for. cream corn has played little to no role. I'm glad we finally talked about the ring Lynch has created this world filled with cannon and mystery and instead of exploring it he just keep adding to it.

I do agree the directing is really bad, like the arm wresting scene had fake tension or like you said the scene in the motel. I feel like there are great moments in it, but the show is so random XD now that I don't care about any of these characters or their interactions.

And he's talking about doing another season, for what? I feel like he's trying to recature a lot of the heart of the original but missing it.

The new seaons feels like visiting your hometown and realizing either they changed or you've changed. And you want it to work but for some reason you can't seem to get past the tension and small talk stage.

The ideas are there, it's all there for lynch but he can't execute it

Pic related captures how I feel too
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>>86078960
Maybe he's just trying to go for a different effect than what was in your precious movies
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>>86067388
nice qiality rip, fucking retard

how retarded you gotta be to watch shows with this quality?
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>>86078923
Probably, James' actor is more than aware of how much he's hated. My sister is in some Twin Peaks meme group on Facebook and apparently he's a member too and he occasionally replies to posts about his forehead or how he's always been cool
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>>86078960
>it just shows me you're a contrarian looking to argue
thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, dumb ass
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>>86078929

The Straight Story.
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>>86079147
Found the pleb. Of course you'd pick the least Lynchian of the bunch.
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>>86079184

No, I didn't pick Dune.
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BEST opening theme coming through. Hoping they will play it at least once in the new season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SFHfQ-iEdY
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>>86067723
this desu

and it gets annoying because she gets a lot of long scenes where she just stands and does retarded faces because she doesn't know what to do.
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>>86079417
All is forgiven if she gets naked at some point. The lack of nudity in general is depressing.
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RIP thread.
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>>86068616
This. Him crying was so bad I was starting to wonder if he was just pretending to be sad to take advantage of Cooper and Battling Bud, but then it came back around and I realized he's just a shit actor.
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>>86074346
>imbecile who thinks The Return is anything but an embarrassing mess thinks capeshit is "art"
Why am I not surprised.
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>>86082025
>taking his post seriously despite it being obvious bait
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>>86082025

BvS is the closest capeshit has ever gotten to art. For however much that's worth.
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>>86082288
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>>86065837
its just lolsorandumb without any depth. Lynch is basically making fun of himself.
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>>86082363
t. brainlet
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>>86082384
t. some retard that probably never watched anything by lynch outside twin peaks
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>>86082400
stop posting dumbass
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>>86082327
Yeah man. Batman branding criminals which leads to them getting murdered. That's what I call art. That's what the character represents on a artistic level.
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>>86083039

Du you want me to trivialize any element from any movie in a way that makes it sound silly and nonsensical?

There was a point to that in the context of the story and particulary his character that does, indeed, make a statement about Batman and his perception in contemporary popular culture as well as the things he represents.
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>>86083173
You make it sound like since it works in the context of the story, it's automatically okay to completely disrespect the character and his history.

The film is in no way a work of art. It was thought up by a grown ass man who thinks like a 14 year old boy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9qmcsGRTys
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>>86083357

You call it disrespectful but I'd say it engages critically with the character and with the romantic view of vigilantism he represents. Even in some of the more optimistic Batman stories it's clear that he's troubled and there's a pretty thin line seperating him from actual criminals. The one we see in the movie cracked and started to become more violent and more merciless than he used to be. He wasn't an antihero, he was a villain who was eventually redeemed.
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I love that you capeshit fucks are being LYNCHED by this series
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>>86078038
EVEN BETTER
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>>86078365
Wild at Heart was fantastic tho
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>>86078381
Son need gym
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>>86078986
Lynch clearly has a deep contempt for his audience, and I doubt there is anyone he hates more than his "fans." S3 is an allegory for letting go of the past; it is only wonderful and strange in your memories, and nothing can be the same or better, only worse. The interesting paranormal elements are regularly downplayed to show how everyone you liked from Twin Peaks have become literal cuckolds, sell outs or plain losers, and the show regularly insults viewers for investing themselves in uncovering the mysteries of the black lodge.
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>>86069797
SNYDER'D
LYNCHED
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Nothing, its pretty much the perfect sequel to Twin Peaks

Plebs just didn't realize they wanted a Twin Peaks remake not a sequel, then got all bent outta shape
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>>86083955
Nicholas Cage was trash (as usual) and the ending was cheap and retarded,
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lynch is just phoning it in
and you faggots pretend its some 2deep4u story
he's probably going to laugh at every one of you personally
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>>86084079
I've never even seen a single person who thought this way. Every time I read comments of people talking about it, it's always positive.
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>>86084304
What is the point of your post?
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I don't know why people think Lynch hates his audience. If he did, then he'd never have gone back to film 18 additional episodes to a series he did over 25 years ago.
>>86078986
>I feel like he's trying to recature a lot of the heart of the original but missing it.
no shit, how to you capture the essence of something that aired 25 years ago and which ended with a very dark cliffhanger? Let's face it, Lynch realised the worst thing he could've done is pander to the nostalgiafags who only ever wanted to see Coop snap back into being himself again and have a le epic battle against his doppelganger and then go back into Twin Peaks to have coffee and pie. Do you think the show would be good then? Do you think doing a rehash of a soap opera but in the 21st century would've been good? He's not trying to recapture the heart of the original, he's trying to give it a new twist and you know, it's fine you don't like it, you don't have to enjoy his vision of the direction the show took, but don't pretend he's somehow not making it work. Plenty of people appreciate him not making a mistake and just making the same shit again.
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I don't like it It feels so sloppy. Why record 18 hours of material if there are 6-7 good hours at best?
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>>86084575
That is just your shitty opinion.
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>>86084959
not really. This will be forgotten so fast. Only episode 8 will be talked about. The rest is a story told poorly, edited sloppily and written like shit.
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>>86065837
Cooper not having his mind and Bob walking around free feels like that moment in an arc of a battle shonen series where the bad guy is fucking shit left and right and you're judt waiting for the hero to stop fucking around.
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>What went wrong?

It's not on network TV and it's more Lynchian. Therefore, less pleb and not as marketable.
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>>86078929
Blue Velvet > Elephant > Mulholland > Straight > Eraserhead > Lost highway > Dune > Wild > FWWM
Never seen Inland Empire
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Lost Highway was great.
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>>86065860
>No coherent plot
I feel like people don't even watch the fucking show.
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>>86085175
>the rest is a story told poorly

Half of /tv/ can't even follow the story. Why do all of you faggots have ADD, put your fucking phone down and watch the show. Its been great so far.
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>>86086550
they watch it while shitposting in a livestream chat
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Not enough cute
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>>86078029
The plot never went anywhere in TP and Laura's murder was only solved because ABC forced it. Get a clue before posting again
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>>86086665
actually this makes sense, which is a shame because I love this season. Several story arcs loosely connected and overtime the connections get stronger.
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ITT: People that got L Y N C H E D
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>>86087079
how dare you sir
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