>when you realise you're on the wrong side of history

>>85967018

What an awful scene, The Roman empire getting trashed by simple muslim horde.

>>85967535
they literally had to call in a dragon to stop from getting their shit wrecked

>>85967535

I think the dragon breaking their formation and incinerating over 100 men had more to do with it

>>85967575
I saw an interview with this twat on BBC news the other night. He's a smug, nonsensical prick. He's one of the leads in fucking Star Wars and he's talking about glass ceilings.

>>85967535
Nah m9, they were wrecking those shitty sandniggers.
Dany used Dragon hax

>>85967593
lol that guy that said "your people cant fight" when they had to call in a dragon

>your people can't fight

ugh. yeah, obviously, you're gonna have the edge when you have a dragon and the element of surprise, you arrogant little sand monkey. dothraki are brave and fierce no question, but they're mindless savages. take away the dragon and give the lannisters time to strategize and the dothraki are beaten handily.

>>85967793
lol mad whitey ha wassup crackas.
u mad that im fucking some white pussy?
ye u getting dominated by blacks ahahaa
then ima dump that bitch and her baby and make u crackers pay for it
and then ima go have another babby with another white bitch
ahhahah like I said u gettign dominated by me whitey

So you're Bronn, and you see Jamie charging into Daenerys, the single most powerful figure trying to insurrect your leader, and instead of letting him kill her and sacrifice himself (Jamie being only the head of the kings guard, important but not a huge loss), you run into fire to stop him and risk killing yourself.

>>85967945
did you not notice the direct hits from dragon fire roasts people to ashes almost instantly

>>85967945
he was never going to reach her

>>85967945
>Implying Jaime wasn't saved by Dickon

>>85967945
Would be better if Bronn used a crossbow to kill that Yaaaaay SLaaay QuEEen

>>85967535
the romans lost battles lots of times, romes great strength was its relentless ability to replace the lost troops and field legion after legion

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>>85967651
>He's a smug, nonsensical prick

Which makes him the perfect tool for (((their))) agenda.

>>85967945
jaime would have been incinerated

>>85968097
Why would Jews who aren't black want to push forwards black people as the superior race.

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>>85967018
>are we the baddies?

>>85967018
>shitty quality
Enjoy!

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>>85967535
You mean like in the real world?

>>85968517
now post the hundreds of times the turks lost when they tried to take constantinople. Most of their armadas were getting btfo by like 3 ships with greek fire lel

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>>85968584
>still doing damage control 600 years latter

>>85967535

It is so weird we got entire sections of season one going over how dothraki weapons are made to killed unarmored people yet that all got thrown out the window when they actually arrived.

We didn't even get a scene of them training to fight armored foes.

>>85968674
>beaten by the french
>FRENCH
History is filled with every side losing one time or another. Get over it reddit.

>>85968674
*cough* greek revolution 1821 *chough*

>>85967018
I'm actually surprised they managed to come up with this slight sense of nuance with Tyrion instead of le quip dwarf on #TeamDanyyaaaasslayqueen

>>85967945
>>85967973
>>85967976
>>85968055
>>85968154
the lannister army shouldve just fucking rush him and off the fucking dragon and the cunt with him

Why didn't Jamie just throw the spear?

>>85968782
french were fucking badass during the history and just get bad rep due to ww2 and nothing else

>>85968837
This, why wouldn't every single person think "This is our one chance to kill the dragon, lets rush it and maybe get dragon lady too"

>>85968855
WW1 and 2 are all that count to us and all that will count for a gen more

>>85968782
France has one of the greatest military history of the world you cuck

>>85967575
It's funny how diverse all of the people in that picture look, different hair and eye colors, etc. If it were a bunch of niggers It would truly be a disgusting bunch

>>85967018
knowing what you know about Melisandre (she's old af) do you still fucker her. Let's say 50/50 chance a demon will come out of her

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>>85968886
>France has one of the greatest military history of the world you cuck

Try writing this one again

>>85968019

It was Bronn, Mr.Magoo

>watching shitty poo-in-loo 240p rips
Seriously fucking kys.

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>>85968949
>>85967575

>>85968886
Lolz

>>85968782
france is fucking based when it comes to warfare

>>85968855
the were btfo in the franco-prussian war already

>>85968855
Franco-Prussian war
Yucky Monarchs
Bloody revolution

>>85969112
Once they were, then they all turned sjw. Nothing good has come from france for more than a century

>>85968886
Keyword history

>>85969172
muh sjw boogeyman

>>85968851
It's a lance, and he only has his left hand

>>85969218
>french aren't sjws
>birthplace of modern feminism
What would you call it when it's illegal to even get a DNA test to determine paternity?

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>>85969117
>>85969148
>can't even beat one of the gazillion German states at the time
wow what a great nation

>>85967945
How did Bronn evade the dragon fire when it specifically tried to fry him aftwr he shot it?

>>85969279
Genetic testing for paternity is legal with intervention of a judge. The French law protects your right to privacy, and that includes your genetic material and where and how it's tested, by whom, and for what reason. The law in question is NOT in place to protect a family unit where kids have providers at all cost while daddy gets cucked by a giant sweaty foreigner or whatever OP is furiously masturbating to these days. No-one has the right to your genetic information whenever the hell they please. If you take someone's genetic material and test without their knowledge or consent and without intervention of a judge, you will be persecuted. If there's a question of paternity, you get a lawyer, the lawyer represents you in front of the judge, and the judge grants the paternity test if the presumed father consents. However, if the presumed father refuses without good justification you may be judged the father of the child. (Some men refuse to get tested and/or refuse to provide information and think that it will be impossible for them to be established the father and have to pay for their child. The judge will fuck you up for that.) It has nothing to do with cucking or whatever you think it might be, it has to do with privacy laws.

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do?idSectionTA=LEGISCTA000006136513&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006070721

https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F14042

Dumb /pol/drone BTFO

>>85968517
>desert niggers manage to get their shit together JUST as the Byzantines and Sassanids get out of a 26 year war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine-Sassanid_War_of_602-628
The timing for Muhammad uniting Arabia and his successors deciding to go conquer everything was so perfect it makes you wonder if they truly did have god on their side

>>85969344
>have to consult a fucking judge to test if the child is yours

>>85969344
So If the kids black, and I and my wife are white, i can't get a paternity test because the government can't even handle simple dna analysis properly?

>>85969401
>>85969423

Just lawyer up lmao

>>85967887
They are not even black

>>85969442
But what if the nigger lawyers up and refuses paternity? I'm supposed to pay for the little failed abortion because again, the government is shit and untrustworthy?

>>85967018
Tyrion seems to be genuinely regretting this decision for the first time. He had some abstract sense of getting revenge on Cersei, but the reality is young Westerland peasants who he led into battle himself and fought alongside getting horrifically burned and murdered, and the implication that their wives and children are next.

>>85969321
it was literally all of Germany, a region with something like 1.5x the population, with seasoned troops and a coherent chain of command united under Pruussian hegemony and exceptional military and diplomatic leadership vs a France that had seen 3 government changes in 40 years, with associated brain drain and leadership purges, whose allies abandoned them due to Bismarck's genius diplomatic maneuvering (which boils down to "yo Austria let us slide into Alsace real quick or we'll kick your ass for the second time in a decade when we're done")
Napoleon was a mistake.

>>85969442
>French people think it's normal to hire a lawyer and go to court just to have a paternity test and if you think otherwise you are /pol/

To be fair, I didn't expect anything from a country who takes monthly/yearly showers.

I can't wait for the dothraki hoard to slit Dany's throat and pillage and rape everything they can before slinking back to their country with ships riding low with women and loot, while all the major players of westeros are slaughtered alone and in the cold by the night king and his army. You can't change a tribe of murdering savages into an army. You can't change Muslim refugees into well adjusted westerners who don't commit crimes. D&D setting up for the ultimate redpill bomb to absolutely destroy their sjw turned fandom.

>>85969473
No, you'll only have to support the child if you already acted as a father for a certain amount of time ( 5 years. )

It's on you if you decide to do nothing.

>>85969517
Sure thing Cleetus

>>85969543
So I can file for divorce from the wife the second I see the baby is black and don't have to pay child-support?

>>85969068
Nah m8 it was the D

>>85969543
>implying I'm american
>only americans make fun of France
Sad frenchie

>>85969580
Pretty much

>>85969619
That's good to know. Thanks for clearing it all up

>>85969580
It's ok, the ex will then sue you.

>>85969522
daz where you wrong whitey ;D

>>85969522
>inb4 vast swathes of The Reach and Stormlands are granted to the hoard (including Horn Hill)

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>>85969689

Margaery survived but she's going to be claimed for a Dothraki Khal

Post yfw

>>85969522
D&D have already ignored this. The issue of Dothraki being mad rapists and murderers has been completely ignored, they hung out around Mereen for a while with absolutely no problems. I wouldn't be surprised if GRRM does address this though. It would be a little bit like how the Germanic barbarians that the Romans recruited to fight for Rome eventually turned on them and sacked the city.

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>>85967535

The Romans wouldn't get trashed by that kind of shitty attack (except Crassus, but he was a literal meme).

>troops just loitering instead of marching in formation
>not using the lake to their advantage while fighting light cavalry and a dragon
>not having proper anti-fire equipment because they've known they'd be fighting dragons for years
>not having the ballista manned the instant you get attacked and in a defendable position
>not using ballistas with rope to keep the dragon down

Another glorious battle brought to you by America!

>>85969020

I'd fuck her in the ass

>>85969789
When? Why?

I have a question, why did Dany and her dragon specifically targeted the supply wagons?
They were already winning the battle, why did she keep burning the wagons when she said earlier that she needed those supply to feed her army?

>>85969789
Then you'll make an ass spawn.

>>85969819

SHOCK AND AWE HOORAH
TO SAVE MY PEOPLE I NEEDED TO STARVE MY PEOPLE
A BURNT LANNISTER IS A WELL TRAINED LANNISTER

>>85969819
She's a stupid girl with a pet dragon, Strategy isn't her strong point.

>>85969762
They were caught completely by surprise.

>not having proper anti-fire equipment because they've known they'd be fighting dragons for years
What the hell do you mean?

>not having the ballista manned the instant you get attacked and in a defendable position
No time, again, caught completely by surprise. They had maybe 30 seconds to grab their shit and get in formation.

>not using ballistas with rope to keep the dragon down
The dragon would just pull the ballista up with it, they only had one.

>>85968086
>lots of times
Relative to their entire almost 1500 years history (if we exclude the ERE)? Not really.

>>85968517
The Arabs lost more than the Byzantines did. The Arabic empires collapsed multiple times while the Byzantines survived. The Seljuq's collapsed while the Byzantine survived and only the devastating civil war that followed allowed them to gain the advantage and then the other civil war that resulted in the sacking of Constantinople.

In short, the Byzantines were completely BTFO'ing the muslims before they decided to destroy themselves.

>>85968517
Seems unfair to count the Arab conquests, the Byzantines were on their last legs because they had just fought a 30-year long war with the Persians. They were so low on money that they had to start melting church artifacts.

why niggers pretending the SJW squad wont win the war by default, because they are so invested into SJW bullshit

literally has 2 people with dicks cut off, 1 ex slave niggress , and a dwarf, and the woman is a literal tumblr queen with victim complex calling her wedding night rape

like, you do realize, the outcome was decided upon a long time ago, danny + jon take south and sansa will take north and some trivial matter of who sansa ends up with, but who cares, its all a meme tier show now

>>85969892
It really surprised me that they actually prepared that ballista.

>>85969892
>They were caught completely by surprise.
This. Who would've thought that your enemy still have one more fleet left to transport a horde of barbarian after you've destroyed two whole fleets before. They still should've brought more than one ballista though.

>>85970097
>Who would've thought that your enemy still have one more fleet left to transport a horde of barbarian after you've destroyed two whole fleets before
How many fucking ships does Dany have? She's lost two massive fleets now.

>>85969762
>Propre anti-fire equipment

Like what fire blankets, extinguishers and buckets of Sand?

Retarded post of the day

>>85970015
>we will never get to see a faithful ASOIAF adaptation ever again

FUCK D&D, seriously. I hope they lose all of their money and fucking crash and burn

>>85968782
>France
>basically the country everyone has to form coalitions to even have a fighting chance against
>"weak"
Huh...

>>85969172
>only country to have won a colonial war and set up the model for all following counter-insurgency
>"muh disastrous last 100 years" meme

>>85967535
The dragon gunship didn't hurt their odds.

>>85969321
>hahahahah they can't fight a country with twice their population
Thank you for that anon.

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>>85970015

>>85969934
>In short, the Byzantines were completely BTFO'ing the muslims before they decided to destroy themselves.
Lost Eygpt, North Africa, the Levant, Sicily, etc and eventually Byzantium itself to Islamic invaders. How is that for "BTFO"

So where exactly does the YAAASSSSS SLAY QUEEN thing come from? Was it something someone actually said?

>>85968584
Lol, I'm Turkish and I live in Istanbul. Guess who took the city in the end?

>>85970413
why don't you fucking google it if you're so damned curious, fuckface?

>>85970011
Isn't he a lord and a high nobleman in several territories throughout the country? Why wouldn't someone like this have assassins prepaid to kill his killer(s) as insurance? or is this just another expository quip by D&D?

>>85970015
>calling her wedding night rape

What was that about exactly?

Don't the books portray that scene differently as well?

>>85970330
Literally all French victories were because they outnumbered their enemies, it wasn't twice more like 1.5 and the Prussians were still outnumbered in some battles.

>>85970424
>thinking it's the end
The difficult issue is, have you ever tried to get Arabian stink out of a house or car? Now try getting it out of a whole city.

>savage who destroy, rape and pillage are supposed to be the good guys

>>85968187

because jews aren't white

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZX39MEokR0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQgzldZDH2U

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>>85970497
>>85970497
>Literally all French victories were because they outnumbered their enemies,
Thank you for trying anon.

>>85968787
"Greek" revolution (Fought by European powers).

>>85967018
How many kills do you need to unlock the dragon killstreak?

>>85970529
>bitch who burns thousands of people because of "muh claim" "muh throne" is supposed to be the good side

>>85970269
>>85970302
>lost WW2 twice
>france
>vichey france
What can I tell you. Surrender monkeys are nothing like their glorious ancestors were

>>85970497
>Prussians were still outnumbered in some battles.
Also about this, I really can't conjure up a single anyone. The defining feature about the Franco-Prussian war was that the Germans taunted France into a declaration of war, and already had their entire army on the border while France was straggling to mobilize. Every single battke has them in numerical superiority I think.

>>85970674
>>vichey france
Neutral in WWII. What are you even trying to say?

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>>85970581
>>Literally all French victories were because they outnumbered their enemies,

>>85970494
Apparently faggots think that marriages that women don't personally choose, are rapes. I want the mountain to get one really good on screen rape in so that tumblr can really learn the difference

>>85968832
It would have been more powerful and nuanced if it wasn't him just reacting to his brother about to die. If he was looking on watching his countrymen dying with that face then it would have been a great bit of characterisation.

>>85970581
>muh handpicked cases throughout history

>>85970711
>examples proving you wrong

>>85970015
it wasn't rape in the books but it definitely was on the show lmao if that's what your wedding nigh- oh wait nevermind

>>85970711
Then find me any war with France in numerical superiority you fucking faggot. France has litterally been the go-to country to gang up on, since what's what being the hulking power in Europe earns you...

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The Lannisters know Daenerys has three dragons but Jaime only take one ballista with him?

>>85970704
>neutral
>didn't have battles with the brits during the NA campaigns
>didn't have to scuttle their own fleet because they turned-coat for the second time
The greatest irony in all this is that the French were such a power in shaping history, that the second we hit the modern age, they become irrelevant

>>85970727
>All the cases shown are governments and kingdoms that ended terribly
>Napoleonic France, winning the battles but loosing the war

Really makes you think..

>>85970581
>>85970706
I think he's talking specifically about the Franco-Prussian War. Obviously the French were outnumbered on multiple occasions during the Napoleonic Wars.

>>85970748
The Napoleonic conquest of the German states. He allied with several of them and then beat the other ones one at a time. Doesn't take much skill to do that.

>>85970757
yes, for the same reason that dany isn't wearing armor in the dragon or that no one ever has scouts who could have seen anything coming.
nothing matters anymore, it's only about michael bay epic shots now.

>>85968055
Bronn one-shot the whole fleet once, shooting down a dragon is too much, I'd report him for using an aim bot

>>85970757
This is what bothers me
>A) they thought ahead that a dragon might attack and only fucking brought one ballista
>B) they brought multiple ballistas, but didn't order their troops to fucking use them
>C) for some reason they brought one, but didn't really intend to use it

>>85970674
>are nothing like their glorious ancestors were
Neither are you, Watermelondrea.

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>>85970804
>The Napoleonic conquest.
>Doesn't take much skill to do that.

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>fight for islam
>just so your country can remain a shithole forever because of it

>>85970758
>>didn't have battles with the brits during the NA campaigns
And other French, which boils it down to basically civil strife between French. Also, they quickly laid down their arms since they were begging for an excuse to rally to the aid of Free France.

> they turned-coat for the second time
>terms of the surrender are that France gets to keep its navy
>Germans go back on their word so the French scuttle their navy
>"waaah turncoats"
Brillant, anon.

> that the second we hit the modern age, they become irrelevant
I mean, maybe if we set aside winning WWI for the Allies, but maybe yes, then...

>>85968055
>Yaaaaay SLaaay QuEEen
Shut the fuck up cunt

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>>85970748
lel

>>85970757
It's a bit silly. Especially considering they demonstrably have quite capable launchers on their ships already. I think we're meant to assume this is like a one-of-a-kind plot device prototype.

>>85967018
>light cavalry breaking heavy pike phalanx in a front charge

what the fuck were they thinking?

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>>85970748

>>85970804
>manage to end the HRE while at war with Prussia, Austria, Russia and England
>"lol but err you outnumbered them"
I'm assuming you mean the Austerlitz campaign anyways.

>>85969819
Because they are objects convinientely aligned on her course.

>>85970893
>can't find any wars so resort to battles instead
Wew, the state of the argumenting around here.

>>85969819
You need to VASTLY lower your expectations for continuity and inner logic. It's sad but D&D simply don't care about it anymore. It made for a good shot that's the only reason, really.

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>>85970748
kek

>>85970864
Welp, from what I hear Croats are really good fighters, so maybe the French had to outnumber them. Or IIRC, Croats got hired as mercernaries a lot across Europe.

But still a battle and not a war.

>>85970015
If this is your biggest concern with the show, you need to take good hard look at yourself.

>>85970897
the hre was nothing but a name at that point, it had lost all meaning and authority

>>85970948
>battle
Also that war ended in French victory.

>>85971008
It was still something the Archiduke could brand as something to call fellow Germans to fight for Austria, so it had to be rid of.
Also, I'm not saying ending the HRE is amazing, I'm saying it is when fighting all the other great powers at the same time.

>>85968873
what about WWI ?

>>85970011
>CIA dies again
why would you cut a man before throwing him off a ladder?

>>85968873
The French were great during WWI though

>>85970529
Just like real life.

#NotAllDothraki

>>85970510
You sound likethat will not be the case with the whole Europe in 10 years.

>>85971163
still would've lost without glorious brits or the us of a

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>>85970978
>>85971010
k

>>85971190
That's how alliances usually work, the British wouldn't have won without the French and the US wouldn't have even gotten involved.

>>85971190
Well, the French and British population only evened out with that of Germany when both were put together, so it's only fair that they needed each other.

>the us of a
Bwahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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>>85971010
>>85970978
ke

>>85971198
Props, yes this is pretty embarassing.
Even moreso since the French were supposed to be hardened fighters from WWI, but I guess it would've been the same for the hardened Turks. Guess Ataturk was that much of a madman.

>>85971261
>Algerian war
>defeat
Oh anon.

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>>85968220
Why didn't he just kill Suzuki?

>>85971228
>Well, the French and British population only evened out with that of Germany when both were put together
Kind of, but also not really.

Germany population: 67 million
Britain population: 40 million
France population: 38 million

You also have to include the Russians (150 million), and of course all the British colonies.

>>85968097
Because by making blacks more popular and equal to whites, in few decades there won't be no line, from white and black race there'll be one huge degenerate inbred race of mongrels that jews will take over easily, as you see jews can't take over intelligent white people. They could take over niggers any time.

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>>85970424
lol, bet the Palastinians said the same thing in 1946

>>85971228
>(40 mio + 46 mio) = 68 mio
French mathematics everyone

>>85971326
>implying it's possible to kill Spinzaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9oPY1e20Bc

>>85968855
Reddit is obsessed with this "le white flag frogs XDD"

I'm not even frog myself and I gotta admit they kicked ass, hell they've been main victors of WW1.

>>85971326
cuz he wanted buttsecks with him :3

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I'm officially pro-Lannister now.

Bravo D&D.

>>85971373
It's amazing how a simple Simpsons joke spiraled so far out of control

>>85971368
Suzaku ruined Code Geass, it could've been so good

>>85971409
it was glenn beck iraq war propaganda

> Lord Tywinn scouts report Robb Stark is moving towards fuckin Casterly rock or some shit
> Oh hey Jaime there's a big fuck off horde of Doth'raki that just managed to ride from one side of westeros to the other while you were packing up at highgarden
FUCKING REEEE WHERE ARE THE SCOUTS, STOP TELEPORTING FUCK

>>85971354
>French: enlistable youth = 30% of the pop. therefore 13 million
>English: etc... therefore 13 million
>Germany: etc... therefore 23 million
It almost works...

>You also have to include the Russians (150 million),
Well, yes but the Austrian empire too and the Ottoman empire.

>>85970538
based Freeman

>>85971401
if you lick a girls pussy are you still a virgin?

>>85971331
Oh fuck, forgot to link you. My bad guy. Here: >>85971472

>>85967535

>muslims fired from horseback

you dumbass

>>85969983
the lannisters just came out of a long civil war and are bankrupt also. that and their soldiers aren't as well trained as roman soldiers.

>>85971438
It's even older actually. Roosevelt never truly forgave de Gaulle, who managed to make sure France would be on the winning side of WW2

>>85971722
>Roosevelt never truly forgave de Gaulle, who managed to make sure France would be on the winning side of WW2

Roosevelt wasn't angry at de Gaulle for putting France on the winning side, he was angry about what he saw as a lack of gratitude from de Gaulle as well as de Gaulle's reluctance to be a part of Roosevelt's vision of a postwar world. Just an internationalist butting heads with a nationalist. And the American public in general didn't care about Roosevelt and de Gaulle not liking each other, as a nation we've loved France pretty consistently with only rare exceptions (1798, 1866, and 2003).

>>85971469
It's those efforts for a little realism in the early seasons that is sorely missed now. Now it's just a popcorn party show where it doesn't matter how we arrive at the big set pieces, they just have to happen. All efforts to make Westeros feel like a country or a continent are completely gone. Even with the massive budget they have now and all the battles, the show has never felt so small.

>>85971858
>Even with the massive budget they have now and all the battles, the show has never felt so small.
I was thinking the same thing when I watched episode 4, as cool as it was. There was no sense of scale at all, it looked like Dany attacking a small scouting force rather than Fields of Fire 2.0, which is what it was probably supposed to be.

Ironically, Blackwater felt much bigger while using fewer people and probably costing a lot less.

>>85971489
Would it feel good to get licked where is balls used to be?

>>85971858
I could suspend my disbelief with Jon being resurrected by a red priestess after watching a red priest do the same with Berric. I can't suspend it for teleporting armies with 0 logistics or logic behind them when the opposite was established in s2.

>>85971855
>he was angry about what he saw as a lack of gratitude from de Gaulle as well as de Gaulle's reluctance to be a part of Roosevelt's vision of a postwar world.
Well, he can go fuck himself in the grave, considering he always tried your fuck over de Gaulle, favoured talks with Vichy France (which collaborated, and would thus always be reminded of that by its "allies") wanted to put France under American administration. Dear Gaulle had every right to tell the Americans to fuck off.

So drogon can be killed then, all they need is a lucky headshot and that dragon is dead and dany along with it.

>>85970156
She had 1000

>>85972017
Or Qyburn can whip up some dragon-killing poison and coat the bolts with it

If she takes the iron throne the series is trash

>>85971489
do unsullied lose both their balls and dick or do they get to keep their dick? also do you have to cum in a girl for it to count as losing your virginity?

>>85972036
BUT BUT MUH DRAGONS

>>85971994
DeGaulle fled like a bitch and had no leverage, he was lucky the french were treated as good as they were. They were even counted as a victorious power and got an occupation zone and a permanent un security seat even though they didn't do shit. Ungrateful frogs I swear

>>85972017
The dragons could always be killed. That's how the Targaryens lost in the first place. Half their dragons were stabbed to death by a peasant mob, and the rest died in battle. So when Robert's Rebellion started there were no more dragons to fight.

>>85971994
De Gaulle had every right to tell Roosevelt to fuck off, but Roosevelt had every right to expect some fucking gratitude and cooperation. He's lucky France wasn't treated as a collaborating Axis power.

>>85971994
I honestly can't believe that Roosevelt is remembered in such a good light by Americans.
>hopes to put France under military occupation
>agrees to everyone of Joe's demands and is eager about Polish becoming a Soviet vassal state
>treat Chang-Kai Shek like a bitch while being jovial with Mao who's stting on his ass doing nothing

>>85972096
>DeGaulle fled like a bitch and had no leverage
>flee to defend your country's interests in the colonies
>cowardly

>got an occupation zone and a permanent un security seat even though they didn't do shit.
You do understand that that wasn't to be generous with France, but to screw over the USSR right?

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>>85970011
You have got to be shitting me

>>85972096
The French sustained more casualties on the Western front than the USA did. They absolutely contributed to the allied victory.

And it's not America they owe any gratitude to anyway, it's the Russians.

>>85972100
Yeah i guess so, i just thought drogon was approaching a size level where he literally stopped giving a fuck.

>>85972199
it's both, neither could've won without the other. the russians sacrificed a lot more for their victory though, and their rewards was truman fucking them over.

>>85972175
Roosevelt cared more about peace than picking a fight with the Communists. As for the China situation, Chang Kai Shek was a lost cause and everyone in the White House knew it. That's why Truman also gave him minimal support. As for Poland....lol, what did you want Roosevelt to do? Give orders to his army to keep marching east? Should he have started World War 3?

>>85972199
>And it's not America they owe any gratitude to anyway, it's the Russians.
The Russians would have happily conquered France and turned it into another East Germany. The French absolutely owe America for saving them from that.

>>85972259
>Truman fucking them over
Lol, Truman abided by the Yalta Agreements and gave up territory the US had previously taken out of trust for the Soviets. Then the Soviets broke their agreements, and then Truman decided to stop playing nice.

>>85970015
3 people with dicks cut off

>>85972265
>Should he have started World War 3?
Should have let Patton conscript the Germans and kill every last Bolshevik on the planet

>>85972265
he could've glassed the soviet union with nukes

>>85972096
>he was lucky the french were treated as good as they were.
The French were treated as a victorious nation because de Gaulle was inflexible. He made it clear from the start and did everything for France to be recognise as a victorious nation. France quickly built a new army (more than 1 million men) participated in the liberation of France. Took back Paris when Americans wanted to avoid the city, captured Frankfurt, against American order again.

>>85972314
Ok, fair enough. I just wanted to make sure that was where you were coming from. It would have been stupid to do that, though. The real time to take down the Soviets was in 1956. Operation Dropshot.

>>85972321
Roosevelt had a handful of atomic bombs and his only delivery systems were long range bombers. The US was in no position to glass the USSR in 1945. 1955, on the other hand...

>>85972138
Dear Gaulle didn't hate Roosevelt though. In his memoirs, he says they both did what was best for their countries. To do that, de Gaulle had to be an ass.

>>85972304
>The Russians would have happily conquered France and turned it into another East Germany.
The USA tried to do the exact same thing with their western European allies and in some cases like West Germany succeeded.

Only de Gaulle wasn't having it.

>>85972373
I didn't say he hated him. Just that he told him to fuck off.

>>85972265
>As for the China situation, Chang Kai Shek was a lost cause and everyone in the White House knew it.
That's a bit dishonest. Chang Kai-Shek had done things in the war that had earned him the hatred of many Chinese, but he still had a strong army, and with US funding, he could've probably kept a part of China traditionally cosy with nationalist views (the South). Roosevelt really shot the US in the foot by allowing Mao to rise.

>Give orders to his army to keep marching east?
I understand that it's better not to lose face, and try to pretend that "lol I dun care about Poles lol", but it's still heart-breaking how little he tried tp argue against Stalin.

Truman didn't get any further but at least he tried.

>>85972381
>The USA tried to do the exact same thing with their western European allies and in some cases like West Germany succeeded.

The USA's western European allies all rebuilt themselves fairly quickly and were thriving by the 1960s and 70s, in many cases even earlier. The Eastern and Central European countries under Soviet control remained shitholes for decades, in many cases they still are shitholes.

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who /rooseveltsgermany/ here?

>>85972304
truman was in no state to lead the us, roosevelt's death is one of the most tragic events in us history.

>>85972314
The Soviets were infinitely more well fortified in Germany by the end of the war and were already pretty much fully mobilized to keep marching west.

If they tried anything funny they were taking a massive risk of getting stomped into the Atlantic.

>>85972434
that map literally makes no sense

>>85972434
>who /rooseveltsgermany/ here?
The Eternal Dutch apparently.
Or should I say, the swamp jew himself

>>85972434
What's tragic is that we didn't have President Lindbergh and Vice President Coughlin.

>>85972381
You're insane if you think the US situation in Western Europe was anything like the Russian situation in Eastern Europe. Ignoring the vast difference in living standards that persists to this day (compare even Western and Eastern Germany, let alone Western and Eastern Europe), let's look at how they handled dissent in Europe. France told the Americans to withdraw from France, the US did so. Hungary tried to do the same to the Soviets, and Soviet tanks went rolling into Budapest.

>>85972458
This. Even assuming Americans were willing to tolerate more mass conscription and another 5 years of war (they weren't), there was no guarantee they'd even win in Europe.

>>85967535

The dragon scared them, Mr. Blind Autismo.

>>85972427
I thought we were taking about how much they were akin to satellite states, not how much stuff they had.

>he Eastern and Central European countries under Soviet control remained shitholes for decades
Why? Because they didn't have Coca-Cola, niggers and heroin addicts?

>>85970494
AFAIK Books had Drogo touch her slowly and stopping once she said no, warming her up over time until she stopped saying no at which point sex happened.

That's not to say the next times were as pleasant as well, because to a 13 year old a fucking warlord mchorseman is like us neckbeards getting to fuck a grizzly bear mixed with a moose.

>>85972484
Well, Roosevelt was Dutch....

>>85972509
No, because they were dirt poor, lacked any sort of agency, and had oppressive authoritarian regimes. The only country in Western Europe during the Cold War that fit any of those descriptions was Spain.

What's with /tv/ and fantasy tv shows that really brings out the inner autism?

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>>85972314
As much as I like Patton, "Operation Unthinkable" or any variation thereof would've failed.

There was only one force capable of rooting out Bolshevism forever, and we fought against it.

>>85972488
>tfw no people's revolution in the us led by henry wallace

>>85972543
>Well, Roosevelt was Dutch....
The entire family too. Makes you wonder how they spat out someone as legendary as Teddy.

>>85972552
Game of Thrones used to be a magnet for autists discussing politics and military history. Since the show abandoned any semblance of realistic politics and military history, the autists have turned to discussing real-life politics and military history.

>>85972580
The US could have done it in the 1950s pretty comfortably. A lot of Europeans would have had to die in nuclear explosions though.

Just leaked episode 5 at that other site.

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>>85967887
>Fucking white trash and making the welfare state pay for them is the closest thing to power that niggers have

>>85971334
>jews can't take over intelligent white people.
They clearly can if they're such a powerful and influential group.

>>85971489
Yes

>>85970757
>>85970832
Perhaps some of the ballistas got damaged by the dragons. I mean those Dragons seemed to be attacking the wagons pretty indiscriminately.

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>>85971353
It's fake

>>85972491
> Ignoring the vast difference in living standards that persists to this day (compare even Western and Eastern Germany, let alone Western and Eastern Europe),
As I said to the other guy how the economy is doesn't really make a difference as to how much influence a foreign occupier has in the politics of a country. There are plenty of poor countries with fully independent governments, and there are plenty of rich countries that are totally under the boot of another - like how Hong Kong is to China.

>let's look at how they handled dissent in Europe.
It is hard written into the constitution of Germany that it will remain under American occupation and that they must pay the USA for the privilege of being occupied. They have control over German electric and print media as well as education until the year 2099. Not unlike South Korea or Japan in terms of that relationship to the USA as a glorified puppet.

>Hungary tried to do the same to the Soviets, and Soviet tanks went rolling into Budapest.
Albania left the Warsaw pact peacefully, Yugoslavia never joined it to begin with and no one did anything to them.

The reason tanks rolled into Hungary was because they were fucking fascists. Unless you think the Arab spring was 1776 freedom revolution as well.

>>85972543
>No, because they were dirt poor, lacked any sort of agency, and had oppressive authoritarian regimes
That's one perspective. The way I think of it is that they were healthy, had an empowered government that couldn't be bought by millionaires and had security forces that were actually able to keep people safe.

The west has a funny way of think it's the pinnacle of history and what all nations should be striving for.

>>85973077
>The way I think of it is that they were healthy, had an empowered government that couldn't be bought by millionaires and had security forces that were actually able to keep people safe.
I can't tell if this is bait or if you're this retarded

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>>85972978
>Jews 24

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>>85973110
>hurr you need to have a million flavours of 100% sugar cereal and nig rapists roaming freely to be a nice country.

>>85973016
>The reason tanks rolled into Hungary was because they were fucking fascists
The horror!

>>85968187
Because niggers will focus all their "superior" rage against whites, and it will be whites that have to deal with them while the Jew stands aside and reaps the rewards of the strife.

Same shit as always, dude.

>>85968855
And WW1, and Vietnam, and Algeria.

>>85973278
France literally won WW1 for the Entente. Russia and Italy got their asses kicked, America arrived like 2 days before the war was over and as we saw in WW2 without France Britain couldn't even land on Europe.

>>85973376
And without Britain France would've been forced to surrender in weeks.

>>85973469
>weeks
More like 1917 when Britain finally started funelling as many men as the French to the front.

>>85973376
Russians actually performed very decently, but only against the Austrians.

>>85973469
France was forced to surrender in weeks during WW II, dude.

>>85973469
That's basically been Britain and France's relationship since the Crimean war. One is basically useless without the other.

>>85967018
>You're people can't fight
>''They just got roasted by a dragon you savage.''

>>85967887
>blacks
They're like huns though?

>>85968851
Cant throw a lance like that.

>>85968855
They literally lost every battle to the british.

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>>85973278
I don't really care about people making fun of France for WW2. But no one should have the right to say anything about their performance during WW1. France lost 1,5 millions of men, fought for 4 years, in perhaps the most terrifying war for a soldier.

>>85967535
Please look up Cannae.

>>85967643
>100 men even mattering in the battles with thousands of soldiers
You are dumb

>>85967535
Are you forgetting the dragon?

>army burned to a crisp
>"lmao y'all Westerosi pussies can't even fight lmao"

>>85974577
>morale doesn't matter

hmmmmmm

I was hoping to see some cool ancient/medieval actual battle tactics.
The Dothraki are based on the steppe nomads such as the mongols.. they could've formed a huge cantabrian circle with all their horse archers, harassing the lannister lines with missile fire while danaerys incinerated them from above. Her ability to take out huge chunks of lannister soliders was severely hampered by the risk of friendly fire due to the Dothraki charging straight in.

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>>85970011

>hey let's make smartest character in the show act dumb and we wll kill him, and have girls do it! The meanie. He deserves it, so it's, we should do that huh?
>ri... right boss, gi... give it to em good, LOL. ju... just like Stannis, the meanie!

>>85974811
Daenarys killed all their best generals and she doesn't know anything about fighting so they probably aren't able to coordinate that.

>>85974525
france ran into battle on horses against machine guns hahaha

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>>85970706
>united irishmen

>>85974577
Their were shown literally shitting their pants before even seeing the dragons, just imagine the state of their undies once dozens of their buddies were cremated in a heartbeat by a giant flying creature

>>85968873
>>85969148
are the tyrells french?

>>85974574
Not muslim.

>>85974577
you are telling me if you saw 100 people in front of you literally get incinerated into nothing but ash. that wouldn't affect your morale?

>>85967535
I was livid until I saw Tyrion because otherwise a foreign army led by a woman who had never set foot in westeros was able to pinpoint the location of a mobile force without days if not weeks of scouting on unfamiliar terrain.

>>85967945
Jamie is no longer in the kingsguard speedwatcher

>>85971855
Admittedly De Gaulle was kind of a dick. Not many people still believe his post-war propaganda in france though.

>>85975262
Obsession with chivarly, and grain-store of the continent so yes.

>>85975017
>implying you wouldn't if you were this /fa/
Fag.

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>>85969762
>not having the ballista manned the instant you get attacked and in a defendable position
This is the only legit point. If they had the bloody thing, why was it only one, and why was it not manned at all times? They knew the enemy has dragons, it would cost them nothing to keep 2-3 at the ready at all times.

>>85974525
>France lost 1,5 millions of men, fought for 4 years, in perhaps the most terrifying war for a soldier.

So they were fucking stupid....just like all the rest of the leaders using 19th century tactics and strategies against 20th century weapons.

>>85970156
Doesn't matter since off screen travel is instantenous in space and time.

>>85967535
>muslim

dothraki are based on the mongols .The mongols could practice any religion

>>85974430
If they had, they would not be any France. The 100 year won was basically france existing vs the eternal anglo having clay. Also, napoleonic wars extended french territory which still is under french control. Napoleon shaping the entire geopolitical frame to create the modern state means he somewhat won in the ideological side.

Wold have been interesting if she got BTFO by one of those ballistas and pinned to her dragon so her corpse was being dragged around while mongol hordes pillaged the countryside and three dragons flew around terrorizing everyone right before the Night King breached the wall.

>>85976946
>dothraki are based on the mongols .The mongols could practice any religion
Huns maybe, but certainly not Mongols. Scythians maybe too.

>>85970497
>What is the war of the First Coaliation

>>85975278
nah I wouldn't give a shit, I'm hardcore

>>85975278
You haven't met me.

>>85977067
He also shaped foreign states like the Netherlands into what they are now. No matter how much the Dutch poke fun at their Rabbit King.