Are you ready to admit that season 7 and onward is awful?

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>>85950253
Uh, season 7 was the tits.

>>85950253
I'm on s7 right now, its great your an idiot

>>85950253
So what if Season 7 onward was relatively bad? It was still better than 99% of the rest of tv.

>>85952033
season 7 ends with the Antarctica fight, re-watching now the entire season has been great, not one boring ep so far

>>85950253
7 is great

Even 8 is great

>>85950253
>season 7

Was that the season when they meet overpowered bad guys, get their asses kicked, then Daniel Jackson tells an ancient myth that turns out to be an Ancient super weapon, they spend the rest of the season looking for the legendary super weapon and finally find it in the season finale to beat the bad guys?

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>>85950253
7 has great stuff. Maybe a bit less comfiness than previous seasons but it's still top tier.

>>85952244
I like when the super soldier gets swallowed up by the glowing stream of mac and cheese

>>85952210
anubis, OP soldiers, OP motherships, ba'al, lost city etc, yea thats all season 7

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>>85952305
They're more of a glowing squid.

>>85950253
Are you ready to admit that season 6 and backward is awful?

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Asgard beams seem like a way better bang for their buck

>no wacky Ancient recliner sofa required
>anyone can use it, no gene fuckery needed
>don't need even need a ZPM to run them, conventional power systems work
>unlimited shots as long as you've got power
>can destroy a Wraith hive ship in 2-3 shots, likely cripples with just 1
>probably takes out a Goa'uld mothership in a single hit
>destroys Ori ships in a single attack run
>can shred Ancient/Asuran ships
>only time they don't kick ass is when the enemy has magic plot devices like a ZPM-powered hive ship or the Lucians find a way to adapt

They should have put some of these shits on Atlantis

The thing I loved from this show was seeing humanity going from present day and getting tech and advancing.

Any other shows like that?

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>>85953043
The later model naquadah generators were able to power the drone chairs. The advantage the drones had were just ignoring shields and can keep going even after plowing through a ship.

>>85950253
S7 and 8 weren't great, but I still consider them proper canon as opposed to 9 and 10 which don't even exist to me.

S8 ended things perfectly for the team and the main story arc involving the System Lords and even the Replicators. Everything afterward is just fanfic-tier faggotry.

>>85953140
not a lot of shows have the same sense of progression as stargate

>>85953021
now see thats not right either, none of the seasons are bad, I'd nominate s3 as the worst and that still has some great eps

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>>85950253
I loved it from start to finish.

One of the worst two-parters in the entire show is with O'Neill, it's "Moebius" where they go fucking time-traveling in a puddlejumper and create causality errors and plotholes that demean the show's own writing.

The Ori were good. Farscape gruesome-twosome were good. Orici was good.

The real decline u see in the last 1.5 season of Stargate Atlantis (Before that it was great).

Then you get the unholy SGU of shit, a terrible BSG ripoff with characters you don't care about.

SG1 = SGA S1-3 > SGA S4-5 >>>>> (A thousand year of FTL travel) >>>> SGU

This is irrefutable.

It's not AWFUL, just ok and bit boring.

>>85953433
They thought mobius would be the last episode so they had fun with it. I like that two-parter. I always enjoy alter Daniel and Sam

>>85953433
isn't moebius the one where the world knows about the stargate and the prometheus is air force 1? their was nothing wrong with that ep

>>85953924
the original SG team died in that ep

>>85954524
now that i remembered the rest of the time travel eps, i'm pretty sure they 'died' at least 7 times.
fucking time travel, man

>>85954524
lol really? but they didn't really cause technobabble, I can't remember it that well it'll be a few days until I get to it, I guess i'll take your word for it

>>85954619
I found it funny how Jackson getting killed became a joke in the SGC.

>>85953286
I still really liked season 3

>>85953433
mobius was great if you ignore the fact that the team gets killed :(

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GOOLD?

>>85955139
Me to but like I've said in a few threads now, on rewatch its the weakest imo, still haven't finished yet so I'm reserving final judgement but yea so far s3 was the boringest

>>85950253
I would watch Claudia Black watch paint dry.

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>>85950253
It really does have some golden moments, but I understand why anyone would see the overall quality to be sub-par. I had hopes of a cool wrap up of old conflicts. And the story with the space gangsters that caused so much trouble was never finished. And maybe they could go clean up some of the messes from earlier episodes like the black hole episode with the slowly dying SG team, so yeah.. I would have preferred they go back to the conquered human worlds and plant the flag basically, build up earth as a galactic power before sending a lone ship to Pegasus and fuck with the Wrathe.

>>85955071
jackson is resurrected by the sarcophagus like 7 times during seasons 1 and 2

>>85955970
>the story with the space gangsters
yes it was its called spacerace

It already starts to get repetitive after S3. They built Sokar up to be the most evil fucking Satan tier Goold you could imagine beforehand and then they complete shit on it all and dispose of him in the laziest way possible. And then they have the audacity to hype an even more badder and eviler Goold than all others combined with Anubis. Really boring arcs later down the line.

Standalone episodes like A Matter of Time or Message in a Bottle are so much better because at least they use the Stargate to explore and find cool shit.

>>85956544
anubis seemed to be the continuation of the sokar plot, what annoyed me more then anything was the way apohpos was taken out, he was THE bad guy for so much of it and then, lol replicators fuck you

>>85950253
what type of retard likes this show

>>85956740
all types

>>85956544
i liked the episodes with the weird aliens, like the one when it was just one alien dude colonizing the planet with a big spaceship

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>>85956868
I wish the Reetou had come back.

>>85956997
yea me to, and they were mostly invisible so its not like it was a massive drain on budget,

>>85956544
Anubis was awesome.

>>85956740
only the most retarded like myself

>>85956997
possibly my favorite one-off villain

they would have been fun to sprinkle in during seasons 9 and 10 when the well was getting really dry with the lucians and ori

hell, so little was known about them they could have included them in atlantis

>>85958640
they would have had no motive at that point, their whole shtick was killing humans to stop the goold, they would've had no point after the goold was defeated, they should have shown up s7 and 8

It was dumb as fuck they never had the Stargate program revealed publicly. That could had had tons of great material especially when S9/10 they were clearly out of ideas.

>>85958708
agreed should've happened end of s8, would've made s9-10 much more interesting

>>85958683
Nah I'm sure they wouldn't be fans of the Ori

>>85958789
not the same thing, the ori didn't use humans like the goold did, I'm sure their would have been someway to include them tho, like their crazy jihad is done wtf do we do now?
>oh new bad guys
>kill more humans!
>no, no killing humans won't do anything this time
>umm well i mean thats what we do any ideas?
could have worked

>>85958941
>Ori don't use humans
what about those massive crusader armies they raise, or the labor to fuel their war machine, or their devotion to the Ori that grants them their power?

>>85959130
its not the same and you know it, but really bringing them back after their crazy shit is pointless would have been cool, like really wtf do they do now? they were trying to help but in the most fucked up way possible, basically the entire galaxy hates them

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>>85956868
i wish the fish people appeared in later episodes..
they had time for six hundred different goold leaders tho

>>85959524
>Apophis
>Hathor
>Sokar
>Osiris
>Apophis again
>Anubis
>Ba'al
>Ba'al
>Ba'al

And how many one-off or near one-off Goa'uld did we get? Must be at least two dozen.

I enjoyed every last one of them

It's actually quite hilarious that the Jonas Quinn season is actually one of the best, if not the best season's of SG-1, despite Daniel being a based character.

>>85952033
Everyone makes the same exact argument for whatever their favorite show is, saying it was better than most other tv shows. I liked season 7 onwards, but come the fuck on, SG-1 is far from high-brow television, I would consider it one of my favorite tv shows of all time but it's far from the best tv show, let alone the best show when it was airing.

>>85959524
WHAT
FATE
OMOROCA

>>85959524
What.

Faith.

Amaroco.

What!

Faith!

>>85959630
you forgot Cronus and Yu, shameful

>>85959748
This is my position too

Stargate isn't very "artsy" with its directing, the performances often aren't top tier, the dialogue is usually nothing special, the special effects can sometimes be pretty dated looking, etc. It's like the very best of the B-tier television that I like so much it masquerades as A+ stuff.

I recognize all of the faults with it and I like a lot of shows that are objectively better, but Stargate is in my top 5.

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>>85959977
Yu did more good than bad in any of his appearances. He was practically a pseudo-good guy.

Most of his appearances are just SG-1 or other Goa'uld taking advantage of the poor old guy.

It would have been interesting if they had made him the last Goa'uld standing and he would be allowed to rule over his territory if he promised to abide by some treaty.

>>85960091
they fucked with Yu a lot, poor old guy was their best defense against anubis too

>>85960091
I really liked Yu, wish he had gotten a better sendoff

>>85959704
its a really great season, signs of them coming back are apparent as season 4 closes
1=2>1/2 4=5>6=7>8 onwards >>>s3

>>85950253
So the Tok'ra are all gonna die off in a few decades, maybe a few hundred years tops? How shitty is that. They wiped out the Goa'uld but now their days are numbered.

>>85961052
they just need to find and or make a new queen, or even go back to the homeworld and see if they can deprogram the millions of snakes their

>>85960091
It is interesting how helpful he was to Earth.

>>85961052
Well at least they accomplished their goal. They got to see the impossible the end of the system lords. Now the Asgard situation made me sad. They just blew themselves up to avoid a slow death. Then the Pegasus faction just vanished.

>>85961842
Thor and the rest going was incredibly sad. I can't believe how much I fell in love with a helpful bunch of ayy lmao's

I really liked the final episode. It's hard to imagine how to end that show proper but I think they did a good job.

>when Daniel tears into Vala

>>85962056
Ending a 10 season show with a cult following would really be a bitch but they did the best they possibly could have imo

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>>85962263
she is too fucking hot

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there is no relevant thread reason for this post please ignore
look pretty decent quality tho eh? fgt

>>85962320
When did she play a vampire.

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I like farscape's main actor whatever his name is
but i thought the show went to shit the second Jack got promoted to general and was pulled off SG-1

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>>85953200
>old scifi name and symbol
i miss it

>>85962512
yea so season 9, but from what I understand his dad died late season 7, and he just didn't want to act anymore

>>85962373
I too am in the BSG thread

>>85959524
did daniel's grandpa and the mayan aliens ever reappear? or was it at least stated what was going on with them?

>>85962613
if its you i'll post more screenshots, but really their is decent quality dls find them and dl them, stop being such a pleb, that took me 5 mins

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>>85962545
oh
thats understandable i guess

>>85962660
hey it wasn't me

>>85962795
just saying if the retard who can't find decent quality farscp eps is around, he's a fgt

>>85962661
you can actually see exactly when he finds out, its during season 7, one ep he is shot from behind stuntdouble almost the entire ep and for the reminder of the series he's kinda checked out

>>85962936
I feel so sorry for RDA but if he had been in SG-1 those final two seasons, they would have been a lot more enjoyable.

>>85963070
agreed, RDA always brought something to the table, even if it was just snark, everytime he called them out on their technobabble was fantastic, shame we lost that, but yea can't blame the guy

>>85950253
No O'Neill = shit episode
It was the same when Daniel Jackson ascended

>>85962620
yea they all ascended

>>85956073
He even ascended once. Forgoing death entirely and becoming a God. The guys got good luck

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>>85955622
Ghouls?....

>>85963558
wait what

How many people know about the Stargate program or at least a good bit of it by now? There's got to be tens of thousands around the world. There's the SGC, Area 51, F-302 bases and squadrons, Alpha Site, Beta Site, Gamma Site, etc., Atlantis, Pegasus sites, Icarus Base (temporary of course), and half a dozen ships. BC-304s have a crew of 200. Somebody had to build them and the F-302s and keep them running. There's also mining and resource gathering crews, diplomatic teams, politicians, intelligence officials, and all kinds of support staff.

How has it not leaked?

>>85963806
the entire population of abydos got ascended by skaara and probably oma at the the end of season 6

>>85963949
it leaks all the time, that was one of the reason the airforce encouraged shows like x-treme wormhole

Reminder that the fucking Hammond, a top of the line 304, rolled out years after humanity had Atlantis on Earth, the entire knowledge of the Asgard, and had to run from some Lucian Alliance Ha'taks.

Fuck SGU.

>>85964006
nigger daniel's grandfather was never on abydos
and the abdyosians were never fucking mayan
im talking about the episode with the crystal skull and the fog aliens and daniel's assumed to be insane grandfather, not father in law

>>85964313
well I thought you meant honored father, not his real grandfather, yea that was never satisfactorily resolved

>>85964149
>from some Lucian Alliance Ha'taks

If you remember, Anubis pimped his Ha'taks with ancient tech to be a match to Asgard ships and it's not a big stretch that the technology would spread around.

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Reminder that Stargate was soft disclosure and Trump is currently best buddies with IRL Thor and we are building a fleet of BC-304's as we speak.

>>85965129
sounds good

>>85964313
I think the only other time they even bothered to mention him was when they were looking for the Ancient healing device to fight the kull warriors.

>>85965153
Also IRL Carter is even more of a qt.

t. in contact with IRL Stargate Command on a regular basis.

>>85965946
hows that gateship going? carlyle seemed kinda on the edge, hope everything worked out

>>85956740
only those with the most fearsome wizard powers

>>85965726
I just watched that 2 parter, he's not mentioned

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>>85956740
patrician retards

Why was 90's space sci fi so comfy tier? Nothing was super serious and most shows had some sort of 'humor' to it.

>>85966078
>Nicholas Ballard, my, uh, grandfather… One of Nick's early obsessions was finding the so-called "Fountain of Youth". He claimed he'd found evidence indicating the source of the fountain's power was a piece of alien technology used by early Mayan tribes around 900 B.C. Nick traced its origins to Chac, the Mayan god of rain.

He's mentioned really early on in the first part.

>>85966194
oh, my bad

>State of the Union 2018
>Trump about to talk
>TAU'RI KREE!

What do?

>>85966269
i'd kree I suppose, I mean i'm already paying attention so i'm already kreeing

You know what's funny? The only thing I know about Atlantis is that nobody really cares about Atlantis because it's inferior to SG-1. And then Universe I keep forgetting even exists. How did Stargate manage three series and only one actually memorable one.

>>85967469
Life sucking villains were a mistake

I'm bad at phrasing this.

But does anyone else think how utterly great the creative team behind SG1 must have been to cast the two leads from Farscape? Like, that demostrates to me, better than anything else i can think of how well they understand their core audience and was literally the perfect and well executed move to stave off cancellation / stagnation that would arise with the departure of O'Neill and Jackson.

It just showed such an insight into the feelings and mindset of the television sci-fi fanbase at the time.

>>85967608
My life already sucks, why do I need a villain that does the same thing?

>>85967469
its fine, I remember aqua man, the og boss and mckay being good, also army man whoever he was, but the show got fucked up somehow, don't remember why, i'll be re-watching after I'm done with sg1 but their was something that happened after todd was introduced i think, I guess your right can't really remember it

>>85967704
they were sci-fi allum they worked on countless sci-fi shows before this one, when they asked paramount if they could riff on star trek, paramounts response was 'do what ever you like' they knew their shit basically

>>85967763
My brother watched it all the time and he always talked about how awesome Ronon was. I wonder if he's happy about Momoa being Aquaman.

>>85950253
I enjoyed all of the seasons, but the show definitely took a dip when Michael Shanks quit and came crawling back. After that the show gradually became the Daniel show, where Daniel becomes superman and solves near every single problem by himself. Every story centres around him

>>85967822
who knows, but he worked within the show, although it was kinda a reverse 7 of 9, instead of a babe bring on a badass to boost ratings, but he was the teal'c character that the show was lacking from day one, that chick never cut it

>>85962373
>Wormhole technology you say

>>85953140
not a show, but Independence Day Resurgence does that pretty well. it's one of the few good things about that stupid movie

>>85964585
They weren't a match.

Anubis bolstered his ha'taks to be resilient against the Beliskner class Asgard ships, but O'Neill class ships still made him back down fairly quickly. And Ancient drone weapons still bent Anubis over a table and took him hard and fast.

An advanced 304 should have flattened the three Lucian Alliance ha'taks.

>>85967985
he's just looking for a way home

>>85968153
yep, 100% this

>>85967469
I like Atlantis.

I do think the continuous "we need more power" stuff got old and hard to fathom, though, especially at the point where Earth has been given the Asgard core which should be perfectly capable of telling them exactly how to build the power generators that run Asgard ships. Say what you want about Atlantis and its power needs, but if Thor's ship runs off four of them, building a dozen should be a pretty damn good start on ZPM equivalents.

Or just, I don't know, READING THE DATABASE TO KNOW HOW ZPMS ARE MADE.

>>85968153
>Ancient drone weapon
Reminder that drones were originally exploratory remote probes that the Ancients simply bolted explosives and phase technology to, they were never built to be a weapon. Imagine what they could have had if they'd put their minds to it.

>>85968222
Zero point energy isn't even explained in full detail by modern science, Antimatter reactors should honestly been perfectly capable of driving Atlantis, but I guess they wanted Atlantis to be "top-tech" and just picked the highest tier of energy possible.

>>85968380
They don't need zero point energy to run Atlantis, there were examples of naquadah generators that can run Atlantis systems well enough, like that generator they use for the control chair or the Mark 12 in the bad future that can power the shield. It's just that the ZPMs as designed provided a lot of energy in large enough quantities to run it.

Did anybody actually use antimatter reactors though? The Asgard used neutrino-ion, Goa'uld used naquadah, Ancients used naquadah and then went into zero-point energy (with their brief foray of zero point energy from their own universe, but we know how that ended).

>>85968472
Well, judging by the Mark IX bomb, Naqudah is by far inferior to antimatter energy, Ion and neutrinos are inferior as well, I'm unsure why the writers didn't use antimatter energy in the story, but somehow added Zero point energy into it instead.

>>85968054
yea I liked that

>>85968623
It seems like neutrino-ion and ZPM might be safer and less risky. If antimatter goes bad, then the resultant detonation can be catastrophic. We see no such thing in the case of neutrino-ion, and it takes a lot to destroy a ZPM.

>>85968774
Antimatter is safe as long as not too much antimatter reacts with normal matter in a containment field, most likely a magnetic field.

>>85953433
you forgot the part where SGU ACTUALLY GOT GOOD IN THE LAST HALF OF SEASON TWO only to end on a cliffhanger before it got canned
if that show just didnt take so FUCKING LONG to get going then it would probably have gotten a s3, maybe even s4

>>85968828
True, but we don't really know what sort of safeties they had for it versus neutrino-ion and zero-point. It may simply be the case that they could get more/better and safer results from those two compared with the need to acquire and use antimatter. Hell, given how long it takes ZPMs to wear down, simple longevity might have been a driving force.

>>85968904
It's no denying Zero point energy is a higher form than antimatter, it's just very hypothetical in modern science, and is currently with a conflict with many other theories. Antimatter is otherwise the highest form proven with 100% efficiency of normal matter.

>>85963949
at the end it was one of those ''known secrets'', but thanks to lunatics, and the fact that there were so many different parties that profited from it staying secret, then it was hard to make any kind of leak that couldnt just be ignored/swated away
I think there was one episode where the asgard helped them trick the media with their projector thingies when that elon musk characterdude wanted to expose it

>>85965129
>Trump is currently best buddies with IRL Thor
lmao no we are in that timeline where kinsley (trump) got elected and he's selling us out hardcore

>>85969019
>It's no denying Zero point energy is a higher form than antimatter
I'm not a physicist, so could you explain why/how, beyond that it's just difficult in terms of science/math for what we know about it?

>>85969078
Because zero point energy draws energy from vacuum, while antimatter is more or less advanced fusion, fusion has about 0.05% efficiency, the remaining 99.95% is still normal materia fused, for example two hydrogen atoms fuse into helium, in the process 0.05% energy gets released. Antimatter instead completely annihilates when in contact with matter, with 100% efficiency, it's far more complex in reality but to give the idea.

Zero point energy is neither of these, it instead draws enemy from the vacuum, which isn't (normal) matter, but still matter. It's theorized that in vacuums the Heisenberg uncertainty principle occurs, in the quantum of vacuum fields fluctuate with eachother, vacuum matter fields to be specific, in which energy can be drawn from.

>>85969209
Thank you, anon. Do we actually have any real access or ability to utilise fusion yet as it is, or are we still working on it?

>It's theorized that in vacuums the Heisenberg uncertainty principle occurs
Is this the sort of thing that they have in a roundabout way with "exotic particles", in the SGA episode where they find the Alteran experiment to draw zero point energy from their own universe? A zero point module seems to be designed to draw its vacuum energy from an artificially created section of hyperspace, so is that hypothetically like a vacuum matter field? Existing in hyperspace on its own, technically, well, in a vacuum?

>>85968852
>if that show just didnt take so FUCKING LONG to get going then it would probably have gotten a s3, maybe even s4

that's kind of unfair tho, seeing how most, even the best scifi shows don't really get good until s3 or so (case in point: almost all of star trek, and the first season and a half of SG-1 was pretty wonky too). imagine if TNG had been canceled after s2.

>>85969376
>Thank you, anon. Do we actually have any real access or ability to utilise fusion yet as it is, or are we still working on it?

Starting a fusion reactor is much harder than fission unfortunately, the issue is reaching high enough temperatures where fusion can occur and continue and then containing it and drawing the energy.

>Is this the sort of thing that they have in a roundabout way with "exotic particles", in the SGA episode where they find the Alteran experiment to draw zero point energy from their own universe? A zero point module seems to be designed to draw its vacuum energy from an artificially created section of hyperspace, so is that hypothetically like a vacuum matter field? Existing in hyperspace on its own, technically, well, in a vacuum?

I'm not sure, modern physics doesn't even have a structure for zero point energy, but in theory it can hold infinite amount of energy, even though that would sound crazy since everything is energy and infinite would mean the entire universe at our hands.

It's just insanely complex and also goes against modern laws of physics, the best explanation would perhaps be the quantum field theory.

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>>85962320
Man, the Oi knew what they were doing with her

>>85963426
I've got no problem with Mitchell.

Jonas was shit though

>>85969829
>Jonas
you mean mr. not-daniel-jackson?

>>85969751
>>85962263
is it weird that the hottest part about her is the neck and shoulders?

>>85969376
>To my understanding there's at least three different kind of zero-point energies. Here's my list of them:

>(1) The zero-point energy of three dimensional quantum mechanical harmonic oscillators. I don't know if there is direct experimental verification because usually only energy differences matter. Some solid state guys can probably tell more about it. But this one anyway is absolutely real physics. You can find about it in any text book on QM.

>(2) The zero-point energy of infinite dimensional harmonic oscillator, which quantum fields are. This one is more problematic. I'm not (yet) expert on this field, but if I've understood correctly, it could be that when theoretical physics proceeds forward, we get more understanding about what these infinite background energies are.

>(3) The crackpot zero-point energy, that can be sucked out of the space and turned into mechanical energy. The only application so far has been video documents that bring money to the creators of the documents, but not one single machine that would actually work. Hey come on! So what's the status of the zero-point energy. Its a real thing in physics, that some folks abuse a little bit.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/zero-point-energy-status.194245/

McCay and his sister are siblings IRL

Feels good man

>>85970167
>ywn collaborate with your sister on high tech science in a different galaxy to help and save the human race

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>>85950578

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QUICK BEFORE THE THREAD DIES, POST YOURE GATEFU

>>85969412
>that's kind of unfair tho, seeing how most, even the best scifi shows don't really get good until s3 or so
Early SGU wasn't just bad, it was clearly selling out what people liked the original shows for in the hope they'd hook enough trendy BSG viewers to make up for it. It failed

>>85973868
But anon, you already posted her.

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>>85974326
stay away or imma fight you

>>85967704
that's because they loved the show themselves, and the studio wasn't heavily involved with the creative process.
mallozzi fucking loves it to this day, he was a regular poster on the sg subreddit

>>85974205
>it was clearly selling out what people liked the original shows for

nobody loves SG-1 more than I do but I appreciated that they were trying to do something new that was tonally verdy different. I don't need 20 seasons of more of the same, and it's sad that so many fans demand just that. same attitude that killed Enterprise.