What's the best live-action adaptation of Spider-Man?

>>85944453
Spider-Man (2002) & Spider-Man 2 (2004)

>>85944453
Depends on your tastes. The first two Raimi movies as well as both of Spidey's MCU appearances get a lot of praise. As a character, general consensus (outside of /tv/) is that Tom Holland is the best Spidey yet.

SM > SM 2 > ASM > Homecoming > ASM2 > SM 3

Character wise probably Garfield. I like the way he actually acted like a spider

>>85944567
Also ASM1 and 2 had the best swinging.

>>85944567
Garfield was a better Spidey than Maguire, but his movies suffered from being ash can copy cash-grabs designed to keep the character from Marvel. Holland has the best of both worlds, as he's a fantastic Spidey and stars in great movies (although the Raimi movies were better for their time than Homecoming is, though they have probably aged poorly).

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Why not Toei's Spider-Man? Marvel actually used it in the comics recently.

https://youtu.be/Nyk0XHM7ERA

>>85944644
>Garfield was a better Spidey than Maguire
No.

>>85944678

It's not even a close contest. Maguire wasn't convincing as Parker or Spidey.

As Parker, he constantly looked and spoke as if he were either on the verge of tears or falling asleep. As Spidey, he lacked any of the humor and playful banter that defines the character. Plus he's a little nuggety guy and has the wrong physicality for the role.

>>85944873
>Maguire wasn't convincing as Parker
Oh no! It's retarded!

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>>85944644
> Homecoming
> Great
Merely good.

> although the Raimi movies were better for their time than Homecoming is, though they have probably aged poorly
> though they have probably aged poorly
see pic related

>>85944917

Maguire played him like a mopey little sad sack. That's not how Parker is at all.

>>85944547
>ASM > Homecoming

What is wrong with you

>>85944983
All these people's first spider-man was raimi's and they probably all saw it when they were 10-15 years old so it's sacred to them. They all think Peter is supposed to always be a sad mopey beta /r9k/ poster even after the spider bite.

>>85944917
>i have never read a comic book, the post
Congratulations on all that sex you're having, fucking normie

>>85945267
Kek

>>85945267

i hope that faggot enjoys his wife, children, and fulfilling life

SM > Homecoming > SM2 > SM3 > ASM > ASM2

>>85945372
SM3 is shit. ASM is better

>>85944983
>>85945267
I feel sorry for you people.

>>85945406
It's comparing shit to shit with glitter anon. The shit with glitter is still better.

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SM2 > Homecoming > ASM > ASM2 > SM > SM3

Homecoming > SM 2 > SM > ASM > SM3 = ASM2

>>85944492
done in one, lads

>>85945415

I bet you think Carnage is a good villain too.

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>>85945436
Was the glitter the dancing scene?

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Reminder: Fidelity to a CHARACTER does not inherently make a MOVIE good. There's a certain line you shouldn't cross when adapting a work, though people get too obsessed with "it's not exactly like it was in the source material."

>>85945218
As someone who doesn't read comic books, Tobey made sense as the nerdy kid, and the sadness was understandable given he felt responsible for his uncle's death. Whether they were faithful to the comics or not, I think they did a good job with the character.

>>85945542

Reminder: Failing to capture the essence of what makes people like the characters means an adaptation is shit

SM = SM2 > SM3 = TASM > TASM2 > SM(1977) > HC

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>>85945613
>adaptation is shit
A shit adaptation can still be independently good.

>>85945561
>I don't know anything about comics but I still have an opinion on how well the character was done for some reason because I'm a self-absorbed faggot

>>85945561
What was Peter's arc in those movies? Honestly it doesn't feel like he progresses far beyond Ben's death. I mean yes he does learn about responsibility but that's about the last thing he learns in any of those movies.

>>85945218
Or they could be '90s kids
>grow up with '90s Spidey cartoon where he's very stiff and not very fun and looks too old to be a teenager
>see Raimi movies and think Tobey makes a good Spidey because he's all of those things
>be unfamiliar with the concept of Peter Parker as a playful jokester like he's supposed to be

>>85945652
>this pic
it's like we're in late antiquity when the arts suddenly took a nosedive and never recovered

>>85945707
>I don't know anything about comics but I still have an opinion on how well the character was done IN A MOVIE

Yes. They are independent you retard.

>>85945652
Damn, the suits got better than turned into shit that we have today.

>>85945817

How is this hard for you to understand?

If there's an adaptation of The Great Gatsby where he's a time traveling detective from the future, regardless of how good the movie is I'm going to call you a faggot for thinking it's a good version of the character.

>>85945613
>>85945652
>"EY OH WE NEW YOARKAS STAND TOGETHA CUZ 9/11"
>"Aunt may is that an angel??"
>"It's you who's out gobby... out of your MIND"
>Power rangers Goblin
>"We're not so different you and I...!"
>video game CG hasn't aged well
>All of spider-man 3

Homecoming is pretty great. We only like the Raimi ones because we've seen them all and can rate them accordingly. When they came out I wasn't Really impressed. Only in hindsight do I like them. I think after another one or two of them will I be able to adequately judge them

>>85945923
>video game CG hasn't aged well
It's aged just about as well as Homecoming cg, which is only a month old

>Best movie
SM2 > SM:H > SM > SM3 > ASM > ASM2
>Best Spider-Man
Garfield > Holland > Tobey
>Best Peter Parker
Tobey > Holland > Garfield
>Intelligence
Holland > Garfield > Tobey
>Strength
Holland > Garfield > Tobey
>Speed/Agility
Garfield > Holland > Tobey
>Durability/Healing
Holland > Tobey > Garfield
>Costume
ASM1 > ASM2 > SM > Homemade Homecoming > Homecoming > Human Spider wrestling > Avengers suit in Homecoming > Vigilante in ASM1

There was a thread a few weeks ago on this and everyone agreed this was the best answer.

>>85945923
>Power rangers Goblin

I remember seeing the first trailer for SM1, and laughing so fucking hard at that costume.

It was so terrible. I feel bad for the kids who grew up with those movies and now spend their entire lives thinking they were good because they saw them when they were six.

>>85946026
Autism.

>>85946026

Then everyone in that thread was a dumb faggot, especially you.

>>85945996
Stock response. You obviously haven't watched the movie or haven't watched Raimi's movies in years if you sincerely think it's even comparable how fucking ass the CG in those are now.

>>85945891
Hyperbole aside, if those changes make a good movie then you shouldn't care.

>>85945923
> Dafoe made Goblin work.
> Goblin's "we're not so different" speech isn't bad. Enough with that meme.
> And the bridge showdown is only literal seconds.
Stop nitpicking

>>85946026
ASM has the worst costume though

>>85946112
> Dafoe made Goblin work.

Not even close.

>>85946026
ASM costume with the basketball texture and the yellow eyes is probably the worst

>>85946157

At least it was more interesting than Raimi's Spider-Man suit featuring Sony™ Silver Webbing.

It looked like ass.

>>85944619
Underated post

you comicbook faggots do realize there are as many hamlets are there are actors who play hamlet. Seriously, get over Maguire not being "just like muh comics". Its a different interpretation than the comics and it turned out to be better in the end. Stay mad nerds.

>>85946191
>>85946157
>>85946026
ASM 2 has by far the best Costume

>>85946143
Easily top five capeflick villains

>>85946259
Whow would even disagree, it's literally if pussy was made into a spider suit.

>>85946282
that's just because capeshit villains are universally shit

>>85946341
Ironically Keaton is GOAT in homecoming.

>>85946341
Two face was pretty good in Btas

>>85946026
i have to disagree with strength that train tobey stopped weighed a few tons plus the speed it was travelling at i think beats the rubble holland pushes off. and what are garfield's feats?

>>85946282

Top 5? Haha no. Not even close. I'll name 10 just off the top of my head that are better.

1) Heat Legend as the Joker
2) Jack Nicholson as the Joker
2) Alfred Molina as Doc Ock
3) Terrence Stamp as Zod
4) Ian McKellen as Magneto
5) Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor
6) Samuel L. Jackson as Mr. Glass
7) Luke Goss as Prince Nuada
8) Jason Lee as Syndrome
9) Brian Cox as Willaim Stryker
10) Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman

>>85946424
I think that warehouse wall Tobey held up in that same movie was a better gauge for his strength. By then he was much older (18-20) and experienced. Garfield's Spider-Man (16-18) would throw police cars like nothing and Holland's Spider-Man (15) caught a car and held that passenger jet boarding bridge.

>>85946728

Kilgrave from Jessica Jones and Punisher from Daredevil are better as well, if we're including the MCU TV shows.

>>85946026
This is the most reddit post ever

>>85946728
>>85947006
Slade, prometheus, zoom

>>85947094
Literally who?

>>85947006
Rank the MCU villains

>>85947267
How do you not know slade?

>>85947573
In no particular order these are the ones I like the most:

Kingpin (Daredevil)
Vulture (Spider-man homecoming)
Obadiah Stane (Iron Man)
Kaecilius (Dr Strange)

the Villains are easily the worst thing about MCU, though.

Spiderman 3 is actually kino if you remove all the Venom and Eddie Brock scenes. But without cheating it's

SM 2>SM>Homecoming>SM 3>ASM>Japanese Spiderman>ASM2

>>85947768
Pretty good. I think Corey Stoll in Ant Man did a good job showing obsession and a mental breakdown but was sadly underdeveloped. Hopefully Cate Blanchett ends up becoming one of the best.

>>85945542
>There's a certain line you shouldn't cross when adapting a work
And that line is nappy haired SJW MJ.

>>85944492
fpbp

>all this bashing on Tobey Spiderman
I haven't read comics since I was a kid. Which means the comic Spiderman I remember quipped a lot in fights but had a personal life full of melodrama and introspection. Hell, one issue was almost nothing but Spidey and MJ commiserating over her awful childhood.

Maybe late 90's spidey was different. I wouldn't know.

>>85945769
The most recent Spiderman costume uses a design that only looks good in motion. Given that this is a motion picture and not a comic, it could be argued this isn't a sin.

>>85948069
That's Michelle Jones, a brand new character. Neither Gwen nor Mary Jane are in the movie, probably because they've already been in the previous movies and they didn't want to repeat it too much.

>>85946026
bretty good

>>85946026
Tobey stopped a train and held a warehouse wall

>>85944453
SM 2 > SM >> SM 3 = Homecoming > ASM >> ASM 2

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I keep hoping one of the millions of Spider-Man reboots they keep doing with use the Ben Reilly Spider-Man costume.

Which I think is the best of the modern Spidey suits. The big chest spider and external webshooters look dope as fuck.

>>85946282
Who are the top five?

>Heath Ledger Joker
>Jack Nicholson Joker
>Dafoe Goblin
>Bane?!
>Killian (Iron Man 3 wasn't great but this was the best MCU villain by far)

>>85946368
This. The Vulture did nothing wrong.

>>85944567
>>85944644
You people are insane, how the fuck is a retard sporting a shit-eating green for 90% of his screentime a good Peter Parker? Not to mention that the costume designer made him look like the type of teenager that puffs the kush behind the school in the evenings, not a bloody boy genius that wanks himself to sleep thinking how great science is

>>85944873
>nice outfit, did your husband give it to you?

>>85948377
problematic

>>85948157
So bring in Felicia Hardy. Or hell, even Betty Brant. She's even in the movie a bit. Looking like Gwen Stacy, for some reason.

>>85948376
>wuv raimi spiderman i was six years old when i saw it

>>85948157
"all my friends call me MJ" nah son it's a way of having their cake and eating it, trying to make a new version of the character while leaving a backdoor for an out if people don't go for it. Reminds me of joseph gordon levitt's character in DKR some random cop who randomly decides guns're bad mmkay and then at the very end some random bitch asks him what's your first name, "it's robin" exact same pointless twist reveal.

>>85948435
>haha yes i need quips because they distract me from poorly written characters, stories and relationships tobey is bad because he is not accurate to the comics how dare they make him interesting and a likeable underdog who goes through development why doesn't he quip constantly

>>85948493
I mean, I agree that it's pointless to have her say that they call her MJ, but she's still not Mary Jane no matter how mad you want to be.

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>>85946026
>Intelligence
>Strength
>Speed/Agility
>Durability/Healing

Holy shit the austism

>>85948550

You were born in the nineties.

>>85948550
Raimi's spider-man has quips, they're just beyond terrible you don't even recognize them as jokes.
>It's you who's out, gobby... out of your MIND
>sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
>That's a cute outfit, did your husband give it to you?
>The itsy-bitsy spider went up the water spout. Down came the Goblin and took the spider out!
>Three minutes of PLAYTIME.

>>85948303
This looks dated af

>>85944453
Raimi's trilogy. People need to strip the memes and "muh nostalgia" horseshit away and understand that it will never get better. Every Spiderman movie after 3 was made solely to milk the cow and every one from now on will be made solely to milk the cow. Search up the movies on youtube and check out clips from Raimi's movies. It's nugget after nugget of pure gold for the first 2 movies.

>>85944492
fp

bp

>>85948705
But the tray scene

>>85948555
>mary jane is introduced
"hey tiger you just hit the jackpot, the name's mary jane but everyone calls me MJ."
"hey i knew a girl called mj once she was a stuck up, miserable cunt who whinged about things that are provably untrue and generally sucked the joy out of every room she was in, so i'm gonna call you mj2 i guess"
what the fuck is the point in calling her mj if not to replace, that is taking the place of mary jane?

>>85948705
>Raimi's spider-man has quips, they're just beyond terrible you don't even recognize them as jokes.
>Implying that wasn't a good thing

>>85948696
Correct. Not an argument, though.

>>85948705
The quips in Raimi's Spider-Man were rare. They were never used for the purpose of make the audience laugh every minute to ignore bad characters or storytelling. They are also never used when Spider-Man is focusing during combat, such as when Aunt May is grabbed by Doc Ock.

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>>85944654
What is it with Japan and sticking giant robots in everything?

>>85948800
>"It's pointless to have her say that"
>"what the fuck is the point in calling her mj"

>>85948705
Willem Dafoe singing itsy bitsy spider is the funniest shit and I will fight you if you disagree. He is funny all around in that movie. Almost everything he says is quotable.

>remember? your little accident in the laboratory?
>back to formula?
>OUT, AM I???
>WE'LL MEET AGAIN, SPIDERMAN!!!
>MISERY MISERY MISERY
>I offered you friendship, and you spat in my face

I could go on and on.

>>85948949
>forgetting the best one
Sorry I'm late, work was murder.

>>85948800
5 years from now you're going to look back on the things you've said and slap yourself in the face over how fucking dumb and pointless it all was.

>>85948949
I mean yeah, I enjoy his overacting. It's sort of like Batman and Robin, it's not good Batman, but it's entertaining as hell. Spider-man isn't as "bad" as that movie, but if you get what I'm saying. Even though something is technically bad it can still be entertaining and enjoyed.

>>85949008
YOU THINK A GIRL LIKE THAT IS SNIFFING AROUND BECAUSE SHE LIKES YOUR PERSONALITY?
Your mother was beautiful, too. They're all beautiful. Until they're snarling after your trust fun like a pack of ravening wolves.
A WORD TO THE NOT SO WISE ABOUT YOUR LITTLE GIRLFRIEND. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO WITH HER, THEN BROOM HER FAST.

>>85948303
This is pretty great. Green superior spiderman is great too

>>85949080
This seriously reads like something from a "WTF RAIMI??" thread.

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>>85949138
>but muh pixelated youtube screencap

I watched Homecoming but I didn't see Spider-Man or Peter Parker what I saw was Tony Stark trying to create his own little clone/son and it sickened me and it saddened me and I cannot believe this level of perverted grooming was actively pursued and portrayed by Marvel as acceptable and even favourable.

>>85949138
Please tell me he webbed the main support pillars and is not just holding onto that boat's entire multi thousand ton weight by a few sections of flooring...

Raimi Spider-Man isn't the most accurate version but in my opinion it's a better than the source material.

>>85949138
I think what would really make a point would be a comparison of the scenes immediately after.

>>85948376
No one said his PP was good. His spiderman is the good one.

>>85949137
That line rattled children back in the day. A couple of things from the first movie did, like that part at the end when he said he was pissed off and said the word hell. It seemed so adult for a kid's movie. 2002 was a different time. I think someone said shit in Homecoming and I barely even noticed.

>>85945652
Jesus christ, 1977 spoods is unsettling.

>>85949219
Heh. No one is going to climb the boat that almost killed them to rescue that fuckboy

>>85944453
Sony + Raimi > Disney + Feige

Agreed?

>>85949080
He was 100% right though, all MJ did was constantly trade up boyfriends.
>dates Chad in high school that she breaks up with at graduation
>dates spoiled rich boy living it up on his father's money (reminder that she did make out with a stranger while in this relationship)
>wants to trade up to Spiderman, a name everyone knows
>doesn't wait for that though, gets engaged with alpha male astronaut
>abandons astronaut at the altar to trade up to literal superhero
>but she's the one getting hissy

>>85949188
What source did you read? The one time bendis was good or slott?

>>85948882
>*Aunt May nearly gets killed* Here's your change! :-O
>*Ock tries to cave in his skull* I have a knack for that xD
>Cue Stan Lee scene o.O
>*Aunt May is holding on for dear life on the ledge* Hang on! >:D
Trash movie.

>>85949371
Although she did try to snag Peter at the end of the first movie.

>>85949576
You're memeing too hard.

I only saw the first movie of 2002 I think it was. It was really shitty. Did they ever make a good spiderman movie?

>>85949660
Yes, the 2002 and 2004 movies.

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>>85949186
He asked his AI to give him an X Ray of the boat so he could find the strongest support.

>>85948710
>This looks dated af
It's just the blond hair.

>>85949576
>*Aunt May nearly gets killed* Here's your change! :-O
He had already pushed Aunt May to safety before he even put on the Spider-Man suit. The "Here's your change!" line happens 40 seconds afterwards.
>*Ock tries to cave in his skull* I have a knack for that xD
Not a quip. He's being honest.
>Cue Stan Lee scene o.O
Really minor cameo. It's not like the MCU movies where his appearances actually stop the film for you to notice him.
>*Aunt May is holding on for dear life on the ledge* Hang on! >:D
Not a quip. Perhaps a play on words, but it's not supposed to be funny. He's being serious.
>Trash movie.
Your inner Reddit has been exposed.
>>>/r/eddit

>>85949047
>overacting
Cheesy and suitable ham in a fucking capeshit movie is not overacting.
This is overacting: https://youtu.be/SN4MLMHET7w

Stop being a pseud.

>>85944453
homecoming

kneck your self raimifaggots

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The language in Homecoming surprised me. Pretty risque for a children's flick.

>>85950944
>When I say "Penis" you say "Parker
>Penis!
>Parker!!
Jesus Christ Raimi give me a fucking break

>>85951160
Literally youtube poop humor by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkEIdDhSh4k&t=327s

>>85951160
Movie ends with "fuc..."

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>>85948303
I like this costume for Scarlet Spider

If only we had a Garfield + Raimi Spiderman movie.

>>85944453
the weak should fear the strong

>>85944453
I don't know, but the Raimi trilogy was perfectly cast

>>85949186
>>85950008
And it didn't work, the boat still fell apart.