Wheel of Time Television Series

>>85931342
>book 1 was amazing
>book 2 covered book 1, then was extremely good
>book 3 covered book 1 and 2, then was pretty good
>book 4 covered book 1, 2, and 3, and then was good
>book 5 covered book 1, 2, 3, and 4, and then was alright
>book 6 covered book 1, 2, 3...
aaaaand stopped reading right there

>>85931342
>not on pay tv
>not even fucking netflix
>basic fucking cable

I just hope the sranc don't look too fake

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*ruins your series*

>>85931405
so it's the same repetitive autistic fuck writing as The Sword of Truth?

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*turns your thread into a horse and gallops away*

>>85931702
But that's not Robert Jordan.

>>85931855
hot

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>>85931809
What the fuck did you just fucking say about autism? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Warder school, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on the Blight, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top swordsman in the entire Whitecloak armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the standing weaves? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Inquisitors across Randland and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Children of the Light and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, darkfriendo.

>>85932150
this reminds me i should continue The warded man.

>>85931809
>previously on the wheel of time

>>85932335
>previously on the previously on the wheel of time segment

>>85931342
Perrin should have been the protagonist.

>>85932399
kek so true

>>85932335
>>previously on the wheel of time
*sniffs*
*tugs braid*
*smooths skirts*

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>>85931342
giv aes sedai gf

>>85934432
based

>>85934432
>ywn stack Adeleas and Vandene atop one another and alternately give them the business

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>>85934600

>>85934432
>>85935847
>>85935919
I like to imagine these are grolm

>>85931342
this is terribad

>>85937738
It's apparently a fake pilot produced as cheaply as possible just to hold on to the rights.

>>85937850
Seda died for that pilot. A man who actually existed, Seda, literally died for that pilot.

>>85938027
What?

>>85938486
pls respond

>>85938486
>>85939705
>"James Seda" made the ashcan pilot
>dies immediately after
>death announced via facebook
>no other record of his existence

so Rand and Aiel will be black right?

>>85940275
>violent ginger abos who can't swim or keep promises
close fit if not exact

>>85940275
>live in desert
>Tall and muscular, superior athletic specimen
>can outrun a horse both speed and distance wise
>biggest dicks, Rand is hung enough for 3 women

>red-blonde hair, blue-grey eyes, pale skin

yeah rite

give me one reason this kind of cultural appropriation shouldn't be struck down, whiteboi

>>85940192
The pilot was so bad it killed him. RIP in piece

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*solves half of your legacy recaptcha*

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>is edgy

what was wrong with him?

>>85931630
Underrated

>>85941680
His nation had been destroyed and there was a big tentacle monster in one of their lakes.

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>>85941680
Who would win in a fight between Allan and Lan?

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Which ones will get cut?

>>85941923
Is there any real need to include Be'lal besides comic relief?

>>85941923
I hope they spend 8 series building up Padan Fain as a huge big bad and then kill him in a second. I want the viewers to suffer like the readers did.

>>85931342
too fucking geeky just like the book. It took me three tries to get through that prologue

>>85941967
He'd be pointless to cut though. He's already super minor and his death gives Moiraine her cool moment to show off Balefire.

>>85941923
Every fucking one of them except Sexy Bad girl and Ishamael

>>85942001
Also 5 seasons must build up Mazrim Taim as being Demandred

>>85941923
RAAAAAHHHHHHVVVVVIIIIIINNNNN

>>85942247
You can't cut Rahvin though. He's an essential character who has a critical role influencing Morgase and taking over Andor.

>>85931342
>tfw it will never be as good as GoT

>>85941923
>tfw they will cut Asmodean

>>85942303
That whole plotline is extremely problematic. A strong beautiful queen turned into a bimbo through mind control escapes only to spend the rest of the series being sexually harassed by authority figures and bossed around by her former servant, who she falls in love with.

d u m a i ' s w e l l s

>>85942109
this

>>85942303
implying Morgase won't be cut with Elayne beeing yaaas Queen from the start

since they wont give rand all 3 thots which one do you think he'll end up with? i like min the best but elayne would be a second. Perrin can have aviendha since i fucking hated that bitch faile

>>85942425
They'd better n--
Wait, this isn't even going to be a series

>>85931809
its much better than sword of truth but does get boring and repetitive as it goes on
SOT plummeted in quality after the second or third book

>>85942874
avi is the best grill

>>85942456
I want to high-five RJ

>>85932409
maybe if he fucked off with his wolf buddy and just wandered around getting into various hijinks and banging tinker girls
his story started getting worse as soon as he left the two rivers the second time

>>85932409
>Battle for the Two Rivers turns out to be the Last Battle
>Whitecloaks are the Dark One
>Magic doesn't really exist

>>85931809
I don't think WoT had the evil chickens and pacifist protester murder

>>85931702

Fuck you good sir for that, it's coming back to me now

>>85943387
>evil chickens
This is a meme right?

>>85943518
Nope.
>The bird let out a slow chicken cackle. It sounded like a chicken, but in her heart she knew it wasn't. In that instant, she completely understood the concept of a chicken that was not a chicken. This looked like a chicken, like most of the Mud People's chickens. But this was no chicken.
>This was Evil manifest

>>85943667
This is the type of passage that would make me put down a book and never return to it.

>>85943667
>In that instant, she completely understood the concept of a chicken that was not a chicken
what?

>>85943667
wow, which book was this?
I struggled through 4 then dropped 5 within the first chapter

>>85943866
Goodkind has some truly magical prose.
> "No war! No war! No war!" the people shouted as Richard led the men up the street at a dead run.
>"Out of the way!" Richard yelled as he closed the distance. This was no time for subtlety or discussions: the success of their attack depended in large part on speed. "Get out of the way! This is your only warning! Get out of the way or die!"
>"Stop the hate! Stop the hate!" the people chanted as they locked arms.
>They had no idea how much hate was raging through Richard. He drew the Sword of Truth. The wrath of its magic didn't come out with it, but he had enough of his own. He slowed to a trot.
>"Move!" Richard called as he bore down on the people.
>A plump, curly-haired woman took a step out from the others. Her round face was red with anger as she screamed. "Stop the hate! No war! Stop the hate! No war!"
>"Move or die!" Richard yelled as he picked up speed.
>The red-faced woman shook her fleshy fist at Richard and his men, leading an angry chant. "Murderers! Murderers! Murderers!"
>On his way past her, gritting his teeth as he screamed with the fury of the attack begun, Richard took a powerful swing, lopping off the woman's head and upraised arm. Strings of blood and gore splashed across the faces behind her even as some still chanted their empty words. The head and loose arm tumbled through the crowd. A man mad the mistake of reaching for Richard's weapon, and took the full weight of a charging thrust.
>Men behind Richard hit the line of evil's guardians with unrestrained violence. People armed only with their hatred for moral clarity fell bloodied, terribly injured, and dead. The line of people collapsed before the merciless charge. Some of the people, screaming their contempt, used their fists to attack Richard's men. They were met with swift and deadly steel.

>>85943927
Soul of the fire, I believe

>>85944002
This has been mocked for years but we need Richard to fight antifa now

>>85944166
Truly Goodkind was ahead of his time. Soon the yeard will be the hottest fashion.

>>85944002
lefties utterly btfo

>>85944166
>Antifa
>unarmed
>pacifist
come on now.

>>85944230
And it's not like you need a magic sword to fight them, at least in the US. They're pussies when actually faced with violence themselves.

>>85934432
>aes sedai
How do you pronounce this?

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>>85932150
nah, Galad is pure
Galad has golden-red heir like Rand (same mother)
Galad is a pretty tall prince
Galad almost managed to tire/scratch Demandred in 1v1 duelling, making him easily into top 5 of all swordsmen
Galad was raised better than any of his half-siblings (spoiled brats Elayne and Gawyn)
Galad starts a minor war in Ghealdan just so that his sister can board a boat, carving a bloody path through the zealous masses without getting a shed of blood on his shining white armour
Galad salvages what can be salvaged of the Children of the Light and actually leads them to the final fight against Darkness
Galad can summon the Void with ease, hinting that he may end up as a strong channeler (share genetic material from shared mother as Rand, might become one of the strongest male channelers alive)

Galad ends up with perfect beauty Berelain

and the only reason why Elayne disliked Galad was because he was too "perfect", too honest and incapable of wrong-doing

desu, Jordan might have taken some characters too much to the extreme of purity and goodness

>>85944002
>People armed only with their hatred for moral clarity fell bloodied, terribly injured, and dead.

This is the greatest sentence ever put on the paper

what will Trollocs end up looking like, they will have to be made uniform and without much diversity to make creating and reproducing their costumes easy and cost effective

>>85944449
A shee

>>85944615
they will look like their counterparts in the Eragon movie

i forgot what they were called but they turned them into skinheads with facepaint

>>85944615
Dudes with animal heads? Probably look terrible if they don't pull it off right.

>>85944449
Ah-yes seh-die

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>>85944615
black people with helmets

>>85944689
Urguls?
Christ, that movie was fucking terrible. The one time Jeremy Irons doesn't chew the scenery in a shit movie, he ends up making it abundantly clear how shit everyone else is by comparison.

How do you create not Nazguls without the obvious comparisons to Nazguls?

>>85944618
>>85944749
I always felt like a retard trying to pronounce it reading the books.

>>85944820
These books have glossaries for a reason

>>85944817
Emphasise their ability to fade into the shadow and disappear. Maybe show a human get sacrificed to make their sword.

>>85944879
Even so it's not two words combined that just rolls of the tongue.

>>85944449
Even marketers at Keystone Light know this, because the back of the book provides pronunciations.
https://youtu.be/KIX0VqjKQLo

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how will they make ogieri look like?

>>85945452
Big fat stupid retards, just like in the books

>>85945452
I know he was a giant elf thing but his mannerisms, clumsy nature, and size made me think of some sort of tauren type creature whenever I read his parts and all ogieri.

How will they show weaves and portals is a more important question

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>>85942874
>implying it won't be his canon child-hood crush/love interest this time

>>85944449
Eye said eye

>>85944464
Galad is truly best boy. I wish more fantasy books had more characters as nice as him.

>>85946050
aes se dai

>>85945714
>Egwene
Don't taint one of the few top tier female characters in the series with Rand's harem.

Wouldn't make sense as the narrative goes on, besides
she dies

>>85944464
>Galad has golden-red heir like Rand (same mother)

No, Galad has dark hair.

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>>85944449

>Bashere, how was the battle,
>well m'lord, we lost 500 of my men
>ok
>1,000 companions
>cool
>2 of your soldiers
>fine
>and 100 aiel
>no problem
>oh, one of the aiel was a woman
>NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
>muh weeping for illyena
>muh litany

>We want the Game of Thrones audience

No thanks.

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>>85946145
Why not use words that sound like what it's supposed to sound like mang

>>85946240
>Don't taint one of the few top tier female characters in the series with Rand's harem.
Egwene is one of the worst female characters in a series defined by terrible female characters.

>>85947460
None of the female characters are bad. That's a meme criticism.

>>85948059
faile is bad
the majority of the aes sedai are bad
nynaeve is bad

>>85947460
>Worse than Elayne
>Worse than Nynaeve
>Worse than Faile
>Worse than the majority of Aes Sedai
I never said she was a great female character, just that she was better than the majority of the series. Every second Min was in the story I just felt sorry for her.

>>85944817
Why would obvious comparisons matter given the conceit of the wheel of time and myth fading to legend?

>>85948192
>>85948290
>nynaeve
>bad

kys, fags

>>85931342
>curved swords

Disgusting.

>>85948356
>tug on braid
>sniff
>roll eyes
>men are idiots
>sniff
>tug on braid
>yell at someone for no reason

there, i just gave you every scene nynaeve is in for the entire series

>>85948059
Go away Rigney you are dead

There's only actually 3 non-Forsaken female characters in WoT anyway. They have different backstories and looks but their personalities are just recycled over and over again.

>>85948460
>there, i just gave you every scene a woman is in for the entire series

More like the Fidget Spinner of time, right lads?

Time...time is a flat wheel

>>85948614
>Time...time is a flat wheel
-Black Science Man

>>85948460
>that one time one of the forsaken was going to tell her that the planets had other people on it but she actually tune'd her out

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>85948712
heres what nynaeve did that wasnt total shit in the entire series
>shielded one of the foresaken
>helped rand cleanse saidin

thats it. 14 books and she had two decent moments

oh, and opening the gateway for all the other soldiers to ride alongside lans death charge was pretty cool, but that was mainly lan

>>85943667
a cockatrice?

>>85948712
>that one time one of the forsaken was going to tell her that the planets had other people on it but she actually tune'd her out
Which book was that?

>>85938027
Seda isn't real and never was, and you know that

>>85948867
she was also responsible for all those guys following Lan, she dropped him as far from the blight as possible, then went along the route making sure he would have followers, it was based af and one of the best chapters in the whole series

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>>85943387
>pacifist protester murder

Those traitors deserved it.

>>85951258
Wait I thought Lan rode through the blightlands on horseback

>>85953062
she drops him off at the very edge of the borderlands as far from the blight as possible while still being in the borderlands, so he has to ride all the way through all those countries, she then jumps ahead of him and visits all the stops along the way so malakir know he's coming and join him, the blight is after the borderlands

>>85931405
Book 1 hooked me for for the entire ride through

>>85943866
I think it would have that effect on anyone. I found the books decent enough but then that shit happened in the very first chapter of the fifth book and I just couldn't tolerate anymore. My patience had been wearing thin for a while and that was the final straw.

>>85943927
That actually was the first chapter of 5 so I think that's why you dropped it.

>>85954309
you missed out crazy killer chicken was stupid, but soon you would have gotten to ji'gang whos even dumber but in a really twisted fun way

>>85944570
It is a pretty good line. A little on the nose though, you can tell that the writer was mad about this exact sort of thing in real life and decided to put it in his book.

>>85954401
If you mean Jagang he actually did make some appearances earlier in the series, raping nuns in their dreams or something. I assume Goodkind wanted to set up the character so that he wouldn't just appear out of nowhere.

>>85954346
that may actually be why
i remember thinking how shitty book 4 was while reading it but still giving 5 a chance
within the first chapter i knew it wasnt getting better
was it 4 or 5 that had the chimes?

>>85954462
oh, huh I forgot, been ages and I don't plan on re-reading that shit anytime soon, still the great war with the communist rapists was a lot of fun

>>85931342
>showrunner is a gay who was on Survivor, season 11
>Sony involved
yeah, nope, dropped x100000000

>>85954467
was just looking up the chimes and found this clusterfuck
>At first, Kahlan and Richard didn't know of the Chimes and were tricked by Zedd into believing it was a being called the Lurk. This was done so that Richard would travel to the Wizard's Keep without protest where he would be protected since the Chimes can't harm anyone close enough to the place where they were summoned, in this case the Wizards' Keep. This lie was additionally argumented by the fact that Kahlan would have to be Richard's third wife to be able to summon the Chimes. But, the arrival of Du Chaillu, Richard's first wife who he had forgotten and discarded since it was an involuntary marriage, caused the pair to doubt Zedd and travel to Anderith instead, while Cara travelled alone to the Wizards' Keep to get the Sword of Truth and do what Zedd said would stop the imaginary Lurk.
Its a shame because i really liked the first two books

>>85954467
>>85954559
Yeah, I guess that started in 5. I felt the same way about the series. Contrived bullshit that was only getting worse and worse. I don't know how I made it as far as I did.

And apparently these books are still fucking going. If it was already bad in book 3 I shudder to think how much worse it has gotten.

>>85944002
This actually makes me want to read the books.

>>85931809
Also I'm glad someone mentioned this. Goodkind really does love to waste pages and pages summarizing the previous books, as if someone would just jump in on that book without reading the other ones.

It's nice to see people shitting on Sword of Truth here. I can never get /lit/ to do it because all they do is pretend to read philosophy and whine about college.

>>85941923
probably the ones that get genderbended

>>85945452
they kind of gave me a Beast from xmen feel

>>85931405
Book 6 had the best scene in the series with Dumai Wells, faggot

>>85942425
Super disappointed Jordan got rid of him so quickly

>>85944464
Official Jordan canon for swordsmen is Lan > Rand > Galad > Gawyn


Overall if this isn't on Netflix or HBO it will suck, but they'll probably make the women even more insufferable regardless and make the Aiel niggers and probably Perrin too for good measure, maybe Rand will be bisexual and Min is actually a boy and not a tomboy.

>>85954807
That sort of thing really bothered me as a child but now as an adult I appreciate it. I don't read a bunch of fantasy novels back to back like I did, and my memory isn't what it used to be.

When reading the next book in a series after a break it's nice to have a recap.

>>85955040
I mean, yeah, I get the purpose of it, and in theory it's not bad. But Goodkind does it in such a hamfisted way. Pratchett was much better about that kind of stuff.

>>85931630
The Unholy Consult sucks so far.

>>85931405
Is that true? I read books 1-2 like 10 years ago and considered picking it back up again but don't want to start over.

>>85931809
yes there is no difference between the Terrys and and jordan.

>>85955040
i would prefer a short summary of the series in the appendix for anyone interested rather than reintroducing every character and concept with each book
it gets annoying

>>85955411
I remember Temple of the Winds doing it in a particularly stupid way where Kahlan literally sat some new character down and told her the entire story thus far without any interruptions or discussion, as if anyone would actually talk like that. And then that character ended up killing herself later anyway so I'm sure that gives a neat excuse to find someone else to summarize it to.

Although one thing I can say for Goodkind, at least he actually finishes his books. Meanwhile you have GRRM who has a highly successful TV adaptation going on for literally years and can't even finish two more books. Sword of Truth books are approximately the same length as ASoIaF so it's not like that's an excuse either.

http://www.tor.com/2017/04/20/casting-ideas-for-the-new-wheel-of-time-tv-series/

Would making the Borderlanders Asian be a good thing?

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worry not Nynaeve fans for i am here

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>>85955740
i always got an asian vibe from them and Watanabe could make a good Lan

>>85955740
Yeah, they were always pretty obviously asian-inspired. Weren't heron-mark swords meant to be basically katanas?

>>85955740
Some of the borderland nations were supposed to look like asians.

>>85955151
thats cause prachett was a genius and by comparison both goodkind and jordan are hacks, but try and compare almost any fantasy author to prachett and it'll be the same, he's just that good

>>85955740
it kinda works, but remember thier is four once five different nations that make up the borderlands, which now that I think about it it'd be funny if like one was jap, one chinese one viet, and so on

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>>85956116
sort of, their a cross between a european longsword and a katana

>>85956251
i always thought the borderlands were basically the same race
like US compared to Canada, not Japan compared to Vietnam

>>85955769
>fantasy reader talks with random Japanese words
Why am I not surprised?

>>85955769
10/10

>>85956359
they had varying customs, and while no-one else can it seems the borderlanders can tell each other apart, like
>Lan: that guys from saldea that guys from kandor etc,
>rand: they all look the same to me
>Lan: I will fucking cut you

>>85941967
They are all comic relief. They are all as threatening and as competent as a Captain Planet villain.

>>85956543
They dress very differently, and their physical characteristics are different.

>>85956616
except for moridin and cydane

>>85931702
Not a single character introduced after book 1 improved the series (apart from advancing the plot).

>>85956833
talmanes, and I always liked narishma

>>85931405
you stopped at book 6?
*inhales*

>>85948460
>fuck up multiple forsaken
>is Rand's right-hand lady and trusts her to help cleanse the source with him
>gives literally 0 fucks as a character
>actually has a great character arc showing how she went from a sad orphan to one of the most influential women in the world
>capable of healing things people haven't seen in thousands upon thousands of years

Nynaeve is a kino character and if you disagree you're a fucking pleb.

>>85957313
>Lan told me once that Malkier lives so long as one man wears the hadori in pledge that he will fight the Shadow, so long as one woman wears the ki’sain in pledge that she will send her sons to fight the Shadow. I wear the ki’sain, Master Aldragoran. My husband wears the hadori. So do you. Will Lan Mandragoran ride to the Last Battle alone?

seriously anyone who doesn't like nynaeve is a shit

>>85957313
all the great stuff she does is negated by her completely shit personality

>ywn save MILF Queen Tylin

>>85956833
TAIM

>>85957446
I don't know. 90% of the women characters are such rotten twats that Nynaeve comes out near the top. I remember actually hoping that each of Egwene, Elayne, et al would just get killed at various points.

>>85957446
it gets better once she gets some dick, its gets a lot better actually, she becomes somewhat pleasant

>>85957502
anyone else feel bad for her son? that dude was a total bro

>>85957313
>>85957412
People just meme about the books because they haven't read them. Best to just ignore those posts.

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>tfw no thicc forsaken gf

>>85931702
>Wheel of Time literally has a character named Fail

Can it get any more DOOMED?

Remember that time Rand murdered a merchant without warning?

>>85957313

All of the
>and suddenly all of these super lost talents have been rediscovered
thanks to the ta'veren-ness of the main characters is kind of a nice way to explain that shit in these fantasy books. The magical spacetime fabric that the wheel weaves is dictating prophecy in real time. Like it's not even just a metaphysical concept but reality, same with how balefire literally burns away the threads of time.

>>85955740
No. Real-world cultures, races, nations, fashion, warfare styles, etc were intentionally put into a blender by the author. Making the nation you feel most resembles a real world one that real world one is missing the point entirely.

>>85956833
I liked Cadsuane. Pre-Sanderson Cadsuane is nearly my favorite character. Also, fans hated Cadsuane for stalling the plot when book 7 was released, so she isn't guilty of that.

>>85957613

Yeah. All he wanted was for his horny mother to get some and give Mat basically free reign to possibly become his stepdad. She may have had her pets before Mat, but there's no way she'd pass up that chance to claim him as consort. Altara strikes me as femdom central of Randland.

>>85957701
>Remember that time Rand murdered a merchant without warning?
Yes. Okay, so he has spidey senses or whatever and detected the gray man. But after killing all of them for saying hello to him did he really have to use the power to manipulate their headless bodies to bow down to him?

>>85957782

The most notable nation that matches its peoples is probably Andor, which is painfully England.

>>85957839
he did become one of the high -blood and mats his prince so I guess it worked out, still poor tylin

>>85957701
Lets be fair though. The Wheel of Time is all about balance. The Ying Yang is basically the symbol of Aes Sedai. And it's a recurring theme that for every evil there must be a good and for every good thing there must be an evil. So because the evil side has the most humongous fucking advantage possible the Pattern itself makes sure to give the good side ALL the asspulls in the form of three of the strongest wielders of plot armor to ever exist to even things out. It's cheap, but at least it works. In a way.

>Sony Pictures Television

Abandon all hope

>get all the way to book 12 (13?)
>even read the prequel
>didnt read the last book in the series

And I'll never ever read it. WoT is just like the Sword of Truth series. The worst kind of high fantasy, that barely passes for more than a cash grab.

Always some grand enemy with some grand plan they've been hatching for thousands of years that the MC will solve in a book or two, right before the next world ending threat appears.

Bonus points for every side character that is a lot more interesting than the MC.

If you read a few wikipedia articles between my sentences, you can even simulate reading WoT.

>>85954689
>>85954559
Book 6 was actually pretty fucking great from what I remember. Though I do admit that part of that was due to how shitty and contrived Book 5. I'd argue that it's still worth reading. After that things take another nose-dive though.

>>85958118

I can't even remember the major points of 5 or 6 now that I think about it.

4 was moving from Tear to the Waste and the rains in that big amphitheater
5 was what, them coming back to the wetlands?

>>85958110
>never read wheel of time
thats not how it goes at all, goodkind yes its one threat after another, wheel of time establishes the treat book one and that remains the threat until the end, why even post? you clearly haven't read shit, even goodkind has an overarcing villain for about 6 books straight

>>85958192
Just admit the series is shit and we'll leave it there.

>>85958159
wrong series

>>85958246
sure w/e helps you sleep

>>85957782
Tairens = Swarthy Chinese/Thai fishermen
Amadicians = Patriarchal Christian Spaniards with
Altarans = Super feminist Italians
Andorans = British folk with
Sea Folk = Strong black women seafarers
Domani = Slutty Arabs
Cairhienin = Autistic Japanese/French
Aiel = Aryan sand people super warriors
Saldeans = Hot-blooded Jewish horsemen
Shienarans = Viking Samurai Knights
Taraboners = Blonde Greeks with fireworks and veils
Tuatha'an = Pacifist Gypsy nomads
Illianers = Irish swamp people
Kandorians =Russians
Arafellin = Black haired people with bells?
Ghealdanin = ?
Seanchan = every race ever in a Imperial China+United States setting talking with Texan dialects

>>85958301

Tairens are Asian? Tear is clearly some kind of Spanish setting though.

Flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker flicker

>>85958301
sea-folk are not black their islanders

>>85958118
What happens in Naked Empire that results in Richard killing radical left-wing protestors?

>>85958408
i think the nobles are supposed to be spanish while the common people are chinks

also murandians are scottish for sure

>>85954857
>trans erasure
REEEEEE

>>85958539
>somewhere, in some world, theres a rand that isnt a whiny cunt

>>85958301
>Ghealdanin
Weren't they the nation of dirty and evil poor people?

>>85955155
It gets a lot better but the book clearly suffers from the split between it and TGO, and for his decision to have another series after this.

Sorweel and Serwa OTP

>>85958192
I only read the first book but I remember Rand killing some Satan-wannabe called Ballsack or something. Balzamon? So it's like, really, they killed the big bad in the first book? Where the fuck are they gonna go from there?

>>85956816
>and cydane
Was Cydane the big boobed slut Lanfear was turned into? When did she become competent?

>>85958559
I remember the descriptions of Sea Folk as people with very dark skin, big brown lips and curly dark hair.

What else could they be?

>>85931855

*gets overpowered by a medicine woman from a literally who village*

>>85958580
I don't remember, honestly. As I recall that book was about a secret race of magic-neutral people who would eventually kill magic by breeding it out of existence who were sealed off by ancient wizards who weren't having any of that shit. But Richard let them live in the end so it can't have been them. Probably something to do with old world/new world subterfuge shenanigans.

Second worst book next to Pillars of Creation.

>>85958192
The first five books are a Forsaken boss run. That's probably what he means.

>>85956616
You're mostly right. Mesaana and Graendal got shit done though.

>>85958831
Fuck, that gives me a headache to read and I actually used to read these books. I still like fantasy but fuck Goodkind.

>>85956616
Before he was balefired Rahvin took over Andor, killed Matt (IIRC) and thousands of the Aiel storming the Caemlyn castle.

>>85958766
sometime between book 6 and book 11

>>85958782
their islanders e.g. tahitian or hawaiian etc. your memory is wrong

>>85958861
true, but the overall threat remains, and moridin always shows up to remind people that *current bad guy* is just a minor boss

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*gives kindly old historian blue balls*

>>85958580

The village was entirely peaceful. They didn't believe in violence and any radicals who were violent were banished from the village. This turned into them getting taken over the by Imperial Order (the generic laughable bad guys). iirc it's never actually explained why this is a bad thing, the order wasn't actually mistreating them. So Richard was just mad the village liked the order better than a crazy man yelling at them that they need to murder people.

Also this was at the time he was extra angry because he wasn't eating meat to balance out his killing, or something

Magic also told him how to brew a cure to the poison he has never heard of

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I hope they are brave enough to include all the spanking and other fetish stuff that Robert Jordan was obsessed with.

>>85958792
>literally who village
>blood of manetheren
no

>>85958712
that was be'lal, and he was a chump that was good witha sword, your thinking of ishmael who remains the badguy to the very end

Question for WoT experts ONLY: How did Thom charge a Fade and survive? What was was the blue flash? Was this ever figured out?

Facts we know:
>it happens before Thom closes in on the fade
>Thom's daggers are "special" but not Powerwrought
>the text about his "best knives" being lost when he threw them into a trolloc was retconned to "second best knives" in subsequent printed editions

Were his best knives shocklances or something?

>>85959283

the blood of manetheren had nothing to do with it. all of rands friends got plot armor because of taveren

>>85958782
>big brown lips and curly dark hair.
i dont think they were ever described like this

>>85959384
The guy was an expert acrobat on top of formerly being an assassin and it's later revealed that myrdraal are shit at fighting defensively

it's believable enough that he could take on a myrdraal if he went full on ninja at it

>>85959393
yes it did retard, thats why the girls were so strong, they even go back later and gather up all the girls in two rivers who can channel and theirs a fuckton of them who are waaaay stronger then most anywhere else in the world, the black tower does as well, it mattered

>>85959508
No like I remember it, it was during one of the elayne chapters I think

When they describe one of the women that helped make the weather right again

>>85959527
What was the blue flash?

I used to believe that Thom was a darkfriend and the whole event was staged but that clearly isn't true

>>85959206
Racially they're described like sub-saharan africans at first. I think he changed the descriptions at some point.

>>85959384
ho couldn't it was dumb, only explanation is what you gave, that his daggers were some age of wonders artifact

>>85959576
im rereading the series right now and youre wrong
go find the part you think you remember and post it

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*looks fake*

>>85959637
they look like shit
why are they all pink?

>>85959594
The blue sparks and flashes show up in other places where heron-marked swords clash with myrdraal blades. I think that's supposed to be a clue about Thom's knives.

>>85959341
>protagonist of Moby Dick goes on to be the bad guy of Wheel of Time
Pottery or something.

>>85959594
Evil magic from Thakan'dar imbued in the blade I guess? I mean the place shoots blue lightning up at the clouds.

>>85959780
yes ishmael had a long hard life

>>85959745
Jordan said Thom's daggers weren't powerwrought and we know he's not a darkfriend so >>85959610 is pretty much the only explanation left

>>85959979
>>85959384
Is it possible that Jordan intended to kill Thom but brought him back when he realized he was a popular character? Just like Avdol.

>>85960130
The guy changed Mazrim Taim being Demandred and Asmodean's killer so really any bullshit you can conceive of is possible

>>85960423
true, still mad about the Taim change, so fucking what if people figured it out, it made perfect sense and would've been awesome

>>85959979
>>85960130
also how the fuck do you develop a limp from fighting a fade? either you die or you don't, what did it do? kick him in the shin

>>85960462
I laughed my ass off when Taimandred was confirmed true by the superfan combing through the notes donated to the college of Charleston. Not even mad about it, just like I won't be when 9/11 is confirmed to be an inside job

>>85944002
What's so bad about this?

literally never even heard of it, but tried to watch the first 5 minutes and was bored as fuck

>>85960503
Maybe it threw him off a bridge, who knows. As long as he stayed away from the sword he could be fine.

>Thom wasn't a darkfriend
>Moiraine didn't kill Asmodean via 'Finn wish
>Taim wasn't Demandred
>Lanfear didn't turn Perrin
>Fain didn't become the new DO
You know what? I'm going back to my headcanon. Fuck this series.

>>85961179
>What's so bad about slaughtering peaceful protestors?

>>85961445
I'm sure it was for the right reasons

>>85961445
You seem to lack moral clarity

>>85944002
Also I love that this dude sticks a conservative catchphrase into a fucking fantasy novel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_clarity

/pol/ would love him if they ever read books.

>>85961374
Perrin should have been all over Berelain

>>85954559
Even early on in the first book Richard was a fedora tipper who literally only went after Kahlan because he "saw the spark of intelligence in her eyes." I contend that people only like the first book because it gets so much worse from there that it looks good in comparison.

>>85961542
Goodkind is a Randroid, my uninformed dude

>>85931342
>female narrator
LOTR ripoff

>>85961785
And /pol/ follows Ayn Rand's philosophy pretty much to the letter. Look at what she was about, she came up with "redpilled" before it was even a term. And she's even Russian, and you know how much /pol/ likes them. Just don't tell them she's a woman.

>>85961924
Also don't tell them her real name was Alissa Rosenbaum

Just to let you know, we at /got/ laugh at you guys

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>>85962022

>>85931487
FX is better than HBO.

>>85962086
This pilot didn't air on FX. It aired on FXX at 3am in an advertisement slot (where infomercials would usually air)

The Wheel of Time show which is never going to happen will probably not air on FXX or FX

>>85961972
They would say she's "one of the good jews."

>>85962191
lol you don't know /pol/ at all

>>85962238
I know they're a bunch of hypocrites who do mental gymnastics when it suits them. Like voting for a president who is the grandson of an immigrant.

could trump and ayn rand defeat richard and rand? assume ayn and trump can channel

>>85961705
Berelain was a saucy whore and Perrelain should never have been a thing.

>>85942874
Fuck Elayne, Aviendha best sister.

Nynaeve and Moiraine are still best girls though.

>>85950601
Probably somewhere in book 5 or 6, unless it was their confrontation in book 4.

That first fight was fantastic though. Nynaeve spends a couple of paragraphs freaking out about how she's about to get crushed by Moghedien once she Forsaken is ready to end her, and how she's imagining all the ways she'll be tortured, and then suddenly notices the strain in Moghedien's face, which tells her that she's matching her strength for strength.

>>85962507
Is that the best girl moment in the series? Cadsuane's ter'angreal disrupting Semirhage's mask of mirrors was pretty kino too

>>85958301
There was an official brochure given out when the final book was released that said what Robert Jordan based all the countries off of. I'm unable to find the pictures again though.

>>85957446
Look at her personality from another point of view: the whole time, for the entire series, she isn't in it to be Aes Sedai (though she'd like to), or to try and control Rand, or anything to that extent. She's there to protect the village boy from Emond's Field, and to help him however she can. If she has to give up being Aes Sedai to help him, or to save Lan, she'd do it in a heartbeat.

She helps Rand cleanse saidin, she is one of the two women who go with him into Shayol Ghul itself. Not Aviendha, not Elayne. Because he asks Nynaeve, because he trusts her, and knows her. She even says that she would go to Shayol Ghul to help him even if he didn't ask, because her overriding purpose within the story is to help him. It's even in her name, and Jordan's re-use of mythology, because if Rand is Arthur drawing Callandor/Caliburn from the Stone, Nynaeve is the Lady of the Lake (helps that she marries Lan, who is the uncrowned king of Malkier and Lord of the Lakes, making her Lady of the Lakes). She doesn't ever say a fucking word about the cleansing or Shayol Ghul to anybody. News does get out of what she winds up doing, yes, but she never encourages it, basks in it, or gets prideful over it. People would have built statues to her and practically worshipped her if they'd known, and she stayed quiet.

And there was that complete verbal beatdown she gave the White Tower after she was tested. That was solid too.

Nynaeve is definitely best girl. Also Moiraine, honourable mention to Min.

>>85962608
I have them. I'm looking for the pictures right now. I should be able to locate them in the next 60-80 minutes. These pictures exist

>>85960503
Broke a bone and it set wrong?

>>85962804
He means that a Fade wouldn't do something halfhearted.

>>85962577
Best moment was clearly Mat when he makes the deal with the Sea Folk.

>calls her daughter of the sands, one of the worst insults possible
>says his bargain with them is they go where Elayne says or they go tied across a horse like packsaddles
>she agrees because ta'veren kicks in at the best possible moment

>>85962871
>Mat
>best girl moment
Getting raped by Tylin and the snake people doesn't make Mat a girl

>>85962933
He's described as being "extremely pretty" by a lot of women actually. Versus Rand as "handsome" and Perrin as "strong".

>>85962577
Eh, there are a few.

>Moiraine crash-tackles Lanfear into the snake and fox realm
>Nynaeve helps cleanse saidin
>Moiraine kills Be'lal
>Egwene finds the counter-weave to balefire
>Nynaeve beats Moghedien (either the first, second, or third time)

>>85963020
Pretty good list
>>Egwene finds the counter-weave to balefire
except for this dumb shit

>>85962840
correct

>>85961179
>>85961513
In context, it was "justified" because they were in his way to an objective he desperately needed to get to, but that was only a thin excuse for Goodkind to get some pathetic revenge on opinions he doesn't like, and those who hold them.
The only reason he included them in the book was so his self insert could kill them. They serve absolutely no purpose outside it, and the character has absolutely no moral qualms with mercilessly butchering them. People that aren't psychopaths tend to have issues with that sort of thing, even if they disagree with them politically.
It's the literary form of those tumblr revenge fantasy comics that get posted every so often.

>>85962724
this, nynaeve is the only one who keeps the goal in sight and goes about helping the right way, as you say moraine and min are the only other girls who also do this, although the wiseones are generally pretty good too

>>85963038
I was trying to think of something that was from a character besides those two. Maybe Cadsuane spanking Semirhage counts.

In fairness, Egwene did only figure the weave out because Perrin lolblocked balefire and told her it was only a weave, so really it was Perrin who helped.

Oh wait, just remembered, best girl moment is Nynaeve accidentally healing severing.

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>>85963082
Pic related.

>>85963100
After she rediscovered real healing, not the crappy version the Aes Sedai have. Then a few books later she figured out extra-special delving, then figured out bars over wounds. Then healed madness. That even impressed JesusRand, Age of Legends healers still had a lot of trouble with diseases of the mind.

She was a really, really good healer.

>>85963093
I'd like to discuss The Flame of Tar Valon weave. So it's the opposite of balefire, right? Balefire deletes. Flame covers you in crystal. Does that mean that Egwene and Taim and Taim's sa'angreal are now being held in stasis? Will they be dumped into the world in a future Age?

>>85959637
YO BEBOP AND ROCKSTEADY

>>85963166
>tfw based Nynaeve will never Heal your madness

I just hate that one of the main protagonists (Perrin) is supposed to be a fatass. Why would anyone want to read a fatass' story?

>>85963307

based jordan calling out fat people by making a fat person have a boring story that wastes a bunch of your time

>>85963093
>"Ah. I see the child has refused her meal. Sarene, release your weaves."
>Cadsuane grabbed Semirhage by the hair and, with a casual sweep of her foot, knocked the woman's legs out from beneath her, dropping her to the floor.
>Perhaps she could have used the Power, but it felt right to use her hands for this. She prepared a few weaves, though she probably wouldn't need them. Semirhage, though tall, was a woman of willowy build, and Cadsuane herself had always been more stout than she was slim. Plus, the Forsaken seemed utterly dumbfounded at how she was being treated.
>Cadsuane knelt down with one knee on the woman's back, then shoved her face forward into th spilled food. "Eat, she said. "I don't approve of wasted food, particularly in these times." [...] "Are you going to eat?"
>"I will kill you," Semirhage said. "First, before all the others. i will make them listent o you scream."
>"I see. Sarene, fetch the Sisters outside. And some maids on the other side of the hall as well."
>As they entered, Cadsuane used her threads of Air to turn Semirhage around across her knee. And then she proceeded to spank the Forsaken.
>Semirhage held out at first. Then she began to curse. Then she began to sputter out threats. Cadsuane continued, her hand beginning to hurt. Semirhage's threats turned to howls of outrage and pain. The serving girl with the food returned int he middle of it, adding even more to her shame.
>"Now, will you eat?"
>"I'll find everyone you've ever loved, I'll feed them to each other while you watch-"
>Cadsuane tsk'd and began again. The crowd watched in amazed silence as Semirhage began to cry, not from the pain, but the humiliation. That was the key.

>>85963370
Sandershit

>>85963179
Balefire deletes, Flame appears to create new "stuff" from the One Power, although Egwene can only do crystal. Appropriate, since crystal refracts light, and when Rand reweaves the prison, it's mentioned that he uses the Power in its purest form, light.

The stuff inside them, like Egwene, Taim, the sa'angreal, are probably still down there, but the crystal might be difficult to break through.

>>85963396
>he doesn't appreciate Jordan's spanking and humiliation bdsm fetishes
You really think that one was Sanderson, anon?

>>85963123
well yea, thats obvious, everyone forgets rigney was military, he's an odd bloke but he's right on a lot of shit

>>85963326
I wouldn't put it past him.

>>85963444
Say I balefire crystallized Egwene, is she free, do you think?

>>85963370
>Cadsuane
>Semirhage

What the hell are these stupid fucking names?

>>85963463
>>85963396
>>85963370
For reference, Perrin spanked Faile similarly in book 4.

>>85963478
No, she's dead. She dies, Rand feels her die, she even speaks to him as her spirit/soul is crossing over to wherever it goes.

>>85963463
Not that the writing doesn't betray him, but Sanderson admitted to being forced to write that particular scene against his own inclinations.

>>85963523
So her corpse is just preserved in a crystal tomb forever? That doesn't seem like the opposite of balefire

>>85963543
Really? Hah. Well, Jordan's fetish shining through then.

>>85963573
Balefire destroys the pattern, Flame heals it. The crystal is some kind of side-effect.

next time I reread WoT I'm going to count and list every useless plot thread that either goes nowhere, or gets hastily wrapped up in the last book in a disappointing way.

>>85963634
Specifically, the crystal is a side-effect that creates something from nothing/the One Power to fill the holes that balefire causes, as seen when balefire overuse causes cracks in the ground that lead to nothingness, and the crystal fills those cracks when employed as a counter-weave.

Do you think Harriet fucked Brandon Sanderson?

a lot of the reason why the women in WoT are so disliked by many are that they're strong willed characters and the beta shits that tend to spend all their time in 4chan prefer timid little girls that subjugate to them and pose no threat to their already lacking masculinity

>>85963743

*tugs braid*
*smooth-skirt*
*get kidnapped*
*blame man trying to rescue you*
*fuck over mat*
*get praised for being a genius politician in the process*

>>85963812
Sounds eerily like Sansa.

>>85963812
In fairness, when Aviendha hears about that, she tells Elayne she was being a rude cunt in not so many words and that Elayne has to go apologise. Aiel and the Wise Ones in general work far better than the White Tower.

>>85963895
>Aiel and the Wise Ones in general work far better than the White Tower
Except for sending their male channelers straight into dreadlord school instead of executing them

>>85964000
oh come on, that was definently not their fault, its the best possible solution given the info they have, i'd rather do that if I didn't know what was really going down in the blight, might as well go nuclear in the dark ones stronghold then in your own tribe

>>85964000
THEY'RE NOT SENDING THEIR BEST

>>85963307
>>85963326
He's clearly not a fatass as much as he is, to use fit/gay terminology, a bear. A very muscular guy with enough body fat to hide it.

>>85964188
Like Hoss Cartwright?

>>85964347
Yeah that's pretty much how I imagine Perrin

>>85964000
They didn't know that was what they were doing, and they were horrified as soon as they realised it. They thought the men just died up in the Blight, an easy assumption to make considering their channeling abilities would have been pathetically infinitesimal.

>>85964093
>>85964422
>Aiel and the Wise Ones have unknowingly been creating dreadlords for generations
>it's totally not their fault and they're really sorry about it
>in general they work far better than the White Tower though

>>85964541
>implying the reds did better
wew lad

>>85964347
>Hoss Cartwright
no he needs more hair, a lot more hair

>>85964541
They do work better than the White Tower.

The White Tower has been dwindling in numbers for the past two thousand years, have LOST more information than they retained even counting the Breaking, are implicated in establishing false Dragons that they can then bring down, and their relentless removal of the ability to channel from men by the Red Ajah specifically (that whole Ajah doesn't make sense, they don't bond Warders yet they're the ones who alongside the Green should absolutely have Warders because of what they do) has in fact resulted in the overall percentage of the population able to channel or learn to channel dropping by 66%, and the number of trained channelers dropping by probably upwards of 80% (which it takes Egwene and Rand allowing any age to begin training for men and women to begin fixing).

While this was happening, the Black Ajah grew within their own ranks while they were blind to the problems they were causing, and they completely lost the sense of being "Servants of All" in favour of removing themselves from the world to pontificate and navel gaze.

Men going mad might have fucked the world, but the White Tower was the thing that raped its corpse.

>>85965108
Oh, and the Black Ajah were also a large portion of the Dreadlords at the Last Battle, along with the forcibly turned Asha'man. The latter is Rand's fault, really, but the former is absolutely on the White Tower.

Especially considering they should have put serious thought into their Three Oaths (also, lolbinder, they're using a tool intended for criminals that halves their age) considering that said oaths should have blocked the Black Ajah, yet there are holes in them you could march an army through.

>Red Ajah
>Red Stone of Aja

JoJo reference?