Holy shit how do you deviate from the source material this bad?

>>85863249
Let some blackwashing racists change everything in the script to push a racial agenda, even though the source material already had significant racial content that was important to the plot, they just removed it to change everything to be the opposite. Racists are ruining good movies.

>>85863316
Dude Elba was fine. It's literally everything else that's the issue

>>85863646
He wasn't fine because they had to change the source material to fit him in. One of the main characters in the books hates Roland because he's white. It's important to the story. You can't just remove that and think it'll be fine.

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>>85863249
They couldn't even film this movie today

>roland is a hardass
>opening scene is "water for your crops," normies can't into this
>roland fucks a roastie, massacres a whole town
>befriends a shota
>lets the shota die
>catches up the MiB so he can read his tarot

i think it would be kino but normies would be like wat

>>85863316
>casting was the problem
>not cramming entire series of books into 90 minutes

>>85863646
>>85864309
the racebending was a good indication of where the filmmaker's priorities were

>>85864182
are you high?


You can just change it to make him being hated for being black

It's the same thing

>>85863249

Wouldn't McConaughy have been a better choice as the gunman?

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>>85864439
its literally not the same thing in this year of our lord 2017

>>85864509

Should have cast Scott Eastwood and kept his dialogue minimal

>>85864182
You do understand that the overarching plot of the series has to do with the very fabric of reality being corrupted and coming apart, time itself doesn't even flow consistently.

The series also ends with a timeloop, but the next iteration is shown to be different because Roland has the horn of eld now, and there are instances where characters travel back to their own worlds and times throughout the series and even in those times the details of their lives and their environment are different.

Susannah may have never had her accident and developed split personalities and Eddie may have never gotten hooked on drugs or perhaps his brother lived this time, Roland's mother could be someone completely different.

The ending of the series (and its subject matter) allows all of these relationships and details to be changed and recontextualised in following works without any retcons.

>>85865543
When in the Tower, Roland sees Eddie, Jake and Susannah together in New York. It's not the same Jake or Eddie but they are similar is appearance and it is surmised they found happiness together, no longer being a part of Roland's ka-tet.

>>85863646
Casting Elba was a major red flag, anon. Not giving a shit about the race of your main character in an established series often means you don't give a shit about the rest of the lore, and when you don't even care about the source material than you're going to fuck up the movie in a very big way.

>>85864670
This. Roland didn't talk much anyway.

>>85863249
because the source material was shit to begin with

>>85864509
Early rumors said McConaughey was offered Roland's role but he wanted to be the Man in Black instead. Still could have worked if they'd had a better script and cast a Clint Eastwood clone for Roland.

>>85865585
thats another complaint i heard from people who've seen this already

they all say roland is a cut and dry and action hero

whereas the books show that Roland's quest is selfish and everyone in his path ends up dead

>>85864182
>One of the main characters in the books hates Roland because he's white
For half a book
>It's important to the story.
It literally isn't
>You can't just remove that and think it'll be fine.
Yes you can.

>>85866289
>cast a Clint Eastwood clone for Roland
Scott Eastwood

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>>85866289
>>85866434

>>85866418
>for half a book
>it's not important
It's the entire backstory of one character and ties directly into Jake's backstory. Most of that book revolves around fixing the problem of Detta Walker. Removing that is like removing the whole character. And clearly if you do that, you're making a shit adaptation because this movie sucked donkey balls.

>>85866489
And then it's fixed and is no longer important for the rest of the story. Face it, you just have a hard on for racism.

>>85866505
It's her backstory. You can't just get rid of it. Are you going to make a Harry Potter movie and just remove the whole bit about how his parents died and where the scar came from? It was only one chapter out of seven books, clearly it's not important.

>>85866661
It's the backstory of a character who literally gets written out of existence within that book. It's not important.

>>85866463

Only after the first movie.

any camrips available yet

>inb4 implications, I ain't paying for 18% RT

>>85866682

>I didn't read the books

>>85866730
I clearly red it and paid more attention than you did.

>>85866748
it bombed because they cast a nigger lol, suck that shit forever you bitch, everyone hates you and how you think

I bet king didn't put up much of a fuss, probably encouraged it

>>85866661
>You can't just get rid of it.
You don't have to, she hates Eddie for being a white boi and hates roland for being whitewashed and trying to protect him.

Boom, done.

>>85866682
>>85866748
I can tell this guy never read the books.

>>85866828
King likes money, he doesn't care what people do to his work. He writes five books a year and they all suck, he doesn't care.

>>85865922
get raped

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>>85863249
i got this

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>>85863249
DUDE SONY

>>85863249
Because King is a hack worse than Rowling.

>>85864182
That character isn't even in the movie.

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Mads is best Roland

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>>85866828
king is a turbo liberal dipshit, and he doesn't write books, his wife is a ghost writer and stephen makes appearances.

>>85869656
no worse than race bait trash like get out getting global praise becuase dindus

what do you think idris alba cock taste like?

(asking for a friend)

>>85869656

>adhesives

every time

>>85864439
No it isn't. Not with the current year social and political zeitgeist

>>85871092
I mean, the empire from 4-6 took obvious inspiration from nazi germany, at least aesthetically. Officers have nice uniforms and their weapons are black metal, just like the mp-40 and mg-42. I know there were others but hitler's buzz saw is notorious and the kar-98 is just a bolt action rifle

I'm kind of surprised from what I'm hearing that the story doesn't center around the little boy (Jake?) who got run over by a car and then was transported to the gunslinger's world somehow. When I read the books I think I treated Jake as the main character. From what I remember of the books many of the conflicts didn't directly involve the devil or whatever but Roland had to deal with all kinds of problems other than chasing the bad guy. It's been a long while since I read the books, though.

It takes a special snowflake to get mad that Idris was cast as Roland. These to me are the same people who get mad that there are women in leading roles in action movies (star wars, anyone?) and throw a fit if white men aren't everywhere. They will throw a movie under the bus if it isn't exactly how they want it. I mean, people threw such a huge fit when they found out the ghostbusters remake was an all female cast and decided it was shit way before watching the movie. The movie ended up being bad not because it had an all female cast but because it was simply shit. They are just as bad as the snowflakes that get mad that every movie isn't stuffed to the brim with people who sexually identify as apache attack helicopters

>>85864439

Not really, since the character that hated him for being white was a black schizo lady.

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>>85865543
>The series also ends with a timeloop, but the next iteration is shown to be different because Roland has the horn of eld now
I saw the movie and the horn wasn't even mentioned. The "ackschually it's a sequel" bullshit is such an obvious fucking copout and I'm sick of hearing it.

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Does the movie start with Tull?

They were handed the perfect way to start a Western Horror

>>85873103
No. Mid-World is a dull forest. Roland isn't the main character and he doesn't give a shit about the Dark Tower. At the end he becomes Jake's new dad and they live together happily ever after.

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>>85873140
please tell me youre lying

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>>85873140
T-Thanks Sony

>>85871502
This

The DUDE ETHNIC REPRESENTATION LMAO meme on both sides has to stop

>>85863316
>blackwashing
You mean mudbathing

GUYS!!!!

It was all on purpose!!! They'll reboot it in a couple of years with a white Roland, blonde Jake and true to the source material story!!! It will all be alright!

It's not a bad thing it itself. Carpenter's Vampires ia good movie based on the really good book Vampire$ but with only the name of 2 characters and nothing else at all in common.

A good movie is a good movie, no matter what.

DT wasn't good. That's all. It was a YA Capeshit kid in a DT shirt too big for it's size.

>>85873175
He's not lying. Roland kills the MiB and says fuck it to the Tower. They leave it open that he can go back to Mid-World if he wants to someday.

>>85873140
Dear Lord!

I guess I'll have to content myself with Haven as the closests thing to a DT adaptation.

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I went to see this movie tonight and was disappointed of course. I wanted to see Dunkirk but I went with family and didn't have a choice. So I said fuck it. I haven't been to a theater since I saw The Bourne Legacy in 2012. I don't think I'll go anymore. I'll stay home with my projector and watch movies alone with headphones. I have given up.

>>85863646

Name a single movie with a nigger lead that as ever been good.

>>85873175
he is lying, Mid-World has forests, deserts and waste lands

the movie ends with both of them leaving our world and going to Mid World to keep going after the Dark Tower

Him not being the MC or caring about the tower is true though

>>85873875
No gunslingers or mid-world, but a lot of SK/DT mythos and references. They even use Thinnies in the show.

>>85873898
I, Robot

>>85863249
how many of the books did they try to fit into a single film?

>>85873928

Oh fuck off Reddit.

>>85873934
Men in Black

>>85870979
god that movie was shit

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>>85873898

>>85873898
Who is Sidney Poitier?

What about NOTLD? Prime Eddie Murphy?

>>85873975
Tommy Lee Jones is the only good about that series. Smith just goes on with his nigger self.

>>85873975

>>85873975
whoops wrong reply
>>85873898

>>85874002
Let my close my eyes while I applaud your post.

>>85873898
black dynamite

>>85873898
Attack the Block
Moonlight

>>85873898
Denzel made a lot of great movies (but many more shitty ones).

Jennifer Beals. She was hot stuff in the 80s and he rmovies were a garanteed success.

>>85874040
I was born ready motherfucker

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>RT score of 19%

do we praise Kek or Ka for this?

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>>85863249
ameritard "adaptation"

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>>85873898

>>85873898
Black Dynamite
Blade
Last King of Scotland
Jackie Brown

>>85873898

Space Jam

>>85875642
>Michal Jordan
>Acting
Pick one

>>85873898

Ghost Dog

>>85873933
All of them

well i guess laughing at americans for being cucked SJW paradise and not realizing this will ruin the movie industry was a mistake

>>85876556
>>85876556
Only Hollywood though.
They've been producing nothing but rehashed/ripped-off cancer for last decade anyhow.

>>85864371
To find experienced actors who could play the role? Not just some white guy?

>>85878640
Elba not being able to play Roland doesn't have much to do with race though. He's just a completely different type.

>>85863249
DUDE STEPHEN KING LMAO
They just needed some cash and to push the mainstream narrative so Stephen Cuck was the man for the job, giving his story away to be butchered.

>>85878917
I'll have to take your word for it as I haven't read the books. I do know that Elba is a solid but often overrated actor.

>>85863249
the source material is basically just the teen version of a tween phenomenon, i fail to see why people are upset if the movie sucks

linkin park were shit too

>>85863249
Hollywood will ALWAYS deviate from the source material.

Doing such allows them to copyright and wholly own what they made as their exclusive property.

>>85864439
Then you have to change the character who hates him from black to white, whereupon you will get blacklisted for being a racist.

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>>85863316
Imagine being THIS assblasted by niggers

>take some shit books
>mangle them in the hollywood grinder
>film turns out shit

was anyone not expecting this?

>>85863249

The answer is: Akiva Goldsman + Sony

Some other gems he have written the script for:

Batman and Robin
I, Robot
Da Vinci Code
Angels and Demons
The 5th Wave
Rings
Transformers Last Knight

>>85863249
Yeah, fuck this movie. I read the series. Let everyone involved with the cluster fuck cry about "muh racism" when it fails, eventually maybe Hollywood will get the idea and drop the sjw shit.

>>85879180
How does a dude do so much shit and STILL be a big named Hollywood writer?

Is a beautiful mind that good

>>85879450
Does the Goldsman surname really not ring any bells for you?

>>85863249
Does Suzannah get demon raped in this movie like in the books?

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>>85879565
Fucking damn it

>>85879580
the movie is only about jake and roland and it's a pg13 so there isn't any violence or sexual content
It has basically nothing to do with the dark tower outside of a bunch of names

Are these types of miscasting the mc's race some social experiment by hollywood? Like they do it on low budget crap that gets lots of free advertisement just so the idea gets normalized in peoples heads?

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diversity kills another franchise

>>85863249
Why isn't he missing fingers?

>>85874002
I miss him.

>>85873898
Menace 2 Society

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HOW...
HOW DO YOU MAKE A WESTERN
WITHOUT PUTTING ANYONE IN A FUCKING
COWBOY HAT
FOR FUCKS SAKE
GODDAMMIT

>HERE I FIXED YOUR SHIT MOVIE SONY

>>85873898
Deep Cover is fucking great

>>85870566
Wait holy shit lmao they entirely removed Odetta/Detta from the film? What the fuck?

>>85880555
She is a white woman now. We can't have black people act racist in movies. Susan is still a white girl. She craves the negro cock now

>>85880936
So wait, she's now racist towards Roland/Eddy because they're white? Did they just completely ignore the backstory for her then, growing up in the early 50's or whatever it was?

>>85881003
Because Roland is black I mean*

>>85881003
she is now from current year and is a Trump supporter

>>85881003
he's fucking with you, there's no eddie and no susannah, it has nothing to do with the dark tower outside of the two characters named jake and roland which look and behave nothing like jake and roland

>>85881166
In fairness, Eddie and Detta don't appear in book 1.

>>85863316
It's called "Blackfacing" moron.

>>85881374
No, moron, black facing is a white in a costume portraying a black. Backwashing is putting a black in the role of a white.

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>>85863249
Oh wow... At least it's not as bad as The Emoji Movie.

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>>85863249
Welcome to Hollywood

>>85881433
Blackfacing can also mean the latter if you put it in the right context.

Backwashing doesn't have as nice of a ring to it as Blackfacing or Whitewashing. Use Blackfacing instead.

>>85864309
They crammed the entire series into a 90 minute movie???

>>85881166
>>85881243
Makes sense as to how they crammed all 8 books into one movie now. They just cut half the characters. Good lord.

>>85881243
This isn't based on book 1, it's pretty much an original story with a bunch of elements taken from all of the books with no rhyme or reason and it's pretty much nothing but namedrops

>>85873830
I need more anons to back this up. I simply cannot believe they fucked things up so badly. This is so ridiculous that I am almost positive it's trolling.

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this was made into a movie? I thought it was just some SciFi miniseries like Storm of the Century

>>85873898
Man on Fire

>>85865922

Yup.

As someone who has never read the books and doesn't care about them, this movie was alright as a movie. It had all the typical standard movie stuff... or at least tried to use them. I kept thinking while watching, though, that if they used happier music, this could have been a Disney movie akin to something like Peter Pan or some shit. I can see why fans would be upset - even I realized how dumb it was to condense 7 books into a single generic 90 minute action movie.

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>>85863646
>Dude Elba was fine

>>85879912
No lobstrocities I guess.

>>85863249
by letting gay jewish feminists take control over the industry

>>85863646
wrong

>>85879089
no fans are mad because they removed a disabled black woman from the story and made the character black instead, fucking over like 3/4 of the books story and character development.

>>85881999
Shill

>>85863249
You be a sellout, old, fat, talentless kike hack named Stephen King.

>>85863316
That's what i don't understand. Roland was white in the books but it was an important plot point because of odetta being black, so making roland black makes no sense, and is a really dumb decision

never once through out the movie did roland feel like the main character, jake came across as the main character with roland only being a side character jake met on his journey.

never once did it feel like the makers read the books, just skimmed the wiki page and picked out parts that sounded cool.

shit/10 if you never read the books

slap in the face with an absolute steaming pile of shit /10 if you read the books.

>>85883403
I can't believe a single person would really go to this if they gave a single flying fuck about the books they read. I read them and instantaneously knew I would avoid seeing this at all costs.

>>85863249
Sony. They wanted a franchise that could get a slice of the Hunger Games young adult pie, so they focus group'd it to death

reminder that this was originally over 2 hours, but it was cut down to 95 mins and edited to shit because test audiences didn't get the world building.

>>85883593
i only went for an excuse to get out of the house and do something. i went expecting it to be terrible and still left disappointed.

>>85873898

MIB
MIB 3
Training Day
Bad Boys
Hotel Rwanda
Beverly Hills Cop
Predator 2
Lethal Weapon(?)

This could have been a huge hit if handled right.

>famous author
>epic fantasy world
>a-list actors

But they rushed out some basic cable movie, I don't get it.

>>85883812
>audiences didn't get the world building.
it does a shitty job of explaining anything, period. we see the man in black kill rolands dad and you don't even know he's rolands dad untill later. you would never even guess it is his dad when it happens because they look about the same age.

also the man in black is kidnapping kids to use them to destroy the tower, but it's never even explained if the kids die or just return home. also it's only said that kids can destroy the tower, but no explaination as to why only kids can but grownups are unable to. it felt like a lame attempt to bring jake into the world of roland and the man in black.

>>85863249
Could've been worse. He could be a girl.
https://youtu.be/roDxYsFSSXU

>>85883932
Good list anon, though MIB 3 is a little iffy.

>>85873058
Then quit coming into DT threads

>>85873058
You're 100% right.

>>85873140
It's Blacked all over again, but in cinematic form!!

>>85873898
a goofy movie

>>85873830
did you even see the movie?

>Roland kills the MiB and says fuck it to the Tower.
Roland was never on a quest to go to the tower, he only wanted to stop the man in black from destroying. outside of that he gives absolutely zero shits about the tower.

>They leave it open that he can go back to Mid-World if he wants to someday.
roland and jake do go back to midworld

>>85864670
Seriously, Hollywood is so lost up it's own ass with forced diversity that they missed the best opportunity for an awesome idea like this.

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>>85863249
so is the first book the best ??

>>85889727
1-3 are great.

>>85889727
The first one is good; 2-3 is where it hits its stride. The last few books are a decline.

>>85890186
4 was just absolute garbage

>hey remember all those characters we spent 3 books building? we're gonna stop all that and tell you some boring stories from rolands past

>>85863249
The source material is one of the most overrated things I've ever read in my life. I read it all because a trusted friend told me it's the next best written fantasy series after LOTR. What a fucking idiot I was for believing him.

>>85879854
The hell is this from?

>>85890430
the new assassins creed i'd guess.

The Dark Tower was never good.

Stephen King in his prime was Goosebumps level. Stephen King today is Lovecraft for literal babies. The only reason and I mean the ONLY reason people rank Stephen King alongside the greats is because of Kubrick.

>>85864509
Viggo Mortenson as Roland could've been good

>>85871502
>Dude everybody who has a problem with race baiting is just an edge lord faggot, but so are the people who are race baiting, see I'm neutral so I'm one of you haha
Once is a coincidence, twice is suspect, but it's happening to every single beloved franchise from my childhood so I am calling foul play..

>>85891065
but the shining was an awful movie lmao

king tells good stories then ends them poorly. people rank king because the first half to three quarters of his books usually have pretty good plots. he's not an amazing author as far as writing style goes but people tend to hate on him more than necessary just because he's very mainstream and popular

>>85873898
Watch more movies turbopleb.

>>85874897
>Nailed it.

>>85891321
>>85891321
but are they bad because of race/gender or just being plain terrible.

can you honestly tell me that ghostbusters would have been better with men?

roland being black has no bearing on the film at all, and not having odetta in it takes away all need for roland to be white.

>>85891548
I never even mentioned the quality of the Shining. I just said that the only reason people think Stephen King is hot shit in the first place is because Kubrick made an adaptation of one of his books.

I personally think the Shining is a good movie, I also think the Mist is a good movie, I do however think they are shit books and that every other Stephen King adaptation is also shit.

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>>85864182
>One of the main characters in the books hates Roland because he's white. It's important to the story
It's a minor thing and that character isn't even in the movie.

Is this the power of "based kekistani redpillers" shilling?

>>85863316
I believe the term is "tarring"

>>85891624
>but are they bad because of race/gender or just being plain terrible.
Maybe, maybe not. All I know is that politicizing a movie franchise that I have nostalgic memories towards ruins it for me.

The blatant disregard for characterisation also ruins movies for me. Not so much Ghostbusters because Dan Akroyd is a colossal faggot with a king Midas finger that turns anything he touches into shit since like the 90's, but acting is all about taking a person out of their own reality and pulling them into your own. If I see a black man as Lancelot I am only going to be thinking about how that is a black man as Lancelot, not how he is a Knight of the Round table in Arthurian Britain. Don't get me wrong though, it is most definitely the director's and the producers' faults not the actors for the most part, so I'm not blaming Elba. I don't think Elba is intentionally taking roles to race bait, I think his higher ups are doing that for him.

As always though we pay with our wallet, if normies want more of this they will get it. If not, it's getting flushed to the sewer F4nt4st4c 4 is currently wallowing in.

>>85891624
>roland being black has no bearing on the film at all, and not having odetta in it takes away all need for roland to be white.
Wow it's almost like, it's almost like, they didn't actually care about this series at all and that they just wanted a vehicle for Idris Elba.

Lord of the Rings worked because Peter Jackson fucking loved Lord of the Rings and worshipped the ground Tolkien shat on. The Hobbit didn't work because Taco man walked out and it was rushed and chopped to pieces.

This movie was shit because somebody picked up a book and went "yeah, this will make money" and then dumped a bag of money on Stephen King's porch.

So yeah, I agree, it wasn't his race that made it shit, it was everything about this shallow train wreck of a Deviant art fan fiction that made it shit.

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>>85889727
They are all completely different imo. The first one is a very slow moving acid western a lot like el topo. The second one is more about moving between worlds, NYC in the 80's to the western lands, it's kind of like David Lynch th best way I can describe it. The third book feels a lot like wizard of oz, it explores rolands world more and seems more post apocalyptic than The Gunslinger (which felt more like traditional western). They are all good for different reasons. I never read any other books beyond that because the plot progression seemed too idiotic for me to continue. I just sort of imagined a different plot. It's kind of like Star Wars in that King went back twenty years later and squeezed out some turds.

>>85864263
STOP TORTURING ME!!!! The first book was fucking god tier and would have made a great movie on its own. What it lacked in setpieces (still some good ones though) it would have made up for in characterization, worldbuilding, and defying expectations on what could happen and what people are capable of (audience would lose their shit at the gunslinger letting that kid die).

>>85891994
>All I know is that politicizing a movie franchise that I have nostalgic memories towards ruins it for me.

but it's the fans that are politicizing them, not the studios.

i saw both movies, and they were both bad because they were just plain bad. men as the ghostbusters, and a white person playing roland wouldn't have saved either one.

and personally i'm ok with the death note remake, because making it in japan with japanese actors would have given us the same shitty movie we already saw only in english, and the same story we've already seen in multiple different mediums.

don't get me wrong, i'm /pol/ as fuck, but atleast know what the fuck you're shitting on before shitting on it.

>>85892618
>but it's the fans that are politicizing them, not the studios.
This is a lie by the way.

>Dude I'm pol as FUCK I just have no respect for the medium of cinema and don't care that casting directors care more about public image than making a solid piece of art

>>85878640
I'd like to think there's plenty of experienced white guy actors floating around. Hollywood's full of'em. Don't know why people make this excuse.

>>85866434
Yeah perfect except he can't act for shit and only gets roles cause of his daddy.

>>85866418
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how books get turned into films that have nothing to do with the books, then bomb.

>>85873898
Gay Niggers From Outer Space.

>>85890430
xbox official e3 stream where they show off new assassins creed