American Gods

>>85824664
I watched like 4 episodes and felt like the show had a cool concept with shit execution. Ditched the show, read the book, enjoyed it, don't think I'll ever watch the show.

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>>85824664
>that poster

>>85824664
It's alright but I read the book so I know exactly what's going on and why. Mostly it's good for the comfy visuals.

>>85824762
so the book is better? I agree on the visuals.

Both Preacher and American Gods were made about 15 years too late.

They are both products of a pre-9/11 and post-cold war american zeitgeist.

As such they do not resonate with the world and the audience of today.

>>85824832
The book is solid. Mostly because the characters and atmosphere are well done.

>>85824872
that because the new gods have won

>>85824664
Just drop it. It gets even worse.

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>>85824751
>being a weeb
>thinking you can critique anything

>>85824832
when wasn't the book better than the adaptation?

>>85827022
Game of thrones

>>85824664
>sence
Stopped reading there. Finish high school first and you might be able to understand it

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Watched the first three episodes, and aside from the plotline between Shadow Moon and Wednesday, nothing else was connected, and it was just random scenes with random gods with no connection to the main plot.

I don't care if it starts tying up around the fourth or fifth chapter, if you can't make a story that isn't aimless in the first three chapters, you'll just lose me.

>>85827570
You made a good choice.

The whole point of the book was that Shadow's journey was like a roadtrip in a foreign country and everything he saw was interesting and unknown.

The show does not do a good job of expressing that. The show has a plot and is like a tour with a tight schedule whereas the book is more of a journey of exploration.

I can't tell if I hate the show or if the book was a Gaiman book on the edge of being bad. The show you can describe in a sentence - a man discovers that gods ancient and old exist in America; some immigrant, some homegrown. The book really takes a bit more to describe than that. The show is good for a show; the problem being that it is a show and thus is a slave to actors overstaying their welcome because the audience has a shit memory.

I've watched the first 4 episodes, same as you OP. The lack of coherency doesn't bother me that much, probably because managed to get through the first half of season 3 of Hannibal.

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its just anti white propaganda bullshit
This whole show is just made to trigger /pol/
and not actually be enjoyed by anyone.
Its race bait fan-fic that borders on totally plotless softcore black male /white female porn.

>>85824832
I unironically think that the show so far is better than the book. Their choice of expanding or altering certain characters, especially mad sweeney, was right. I went back and reread the book and a lot of characters are boring or one dimentional af.
honestly at this point I'm watching this show solely for mad sweeney.

I can't fucking stand how they've expanded laura moons role from a bit part in the book to a main character in the show with a fully fleshed out backstory.

Her character is an unsufferable and boring bitch.

Expanding the role of Mad Sweeney is no bad thing since he's easily one of the best characters in the show, but laura moon? Nah

Can someone explain how gods moving to new countries work.
Let's say there is a pagan cult in Europe and some of them move to the US, bringing their religion with them. Now, does their god
>clone itself and the clone is a new, independent entity that will be slightly different due to geographic/cultural differences between the two groups
This one seems likely because of all the Jezuses running around, but at the same time every other god is only one of a kind so it doesn't make sense why Odin and Crnobog are the way they are then.

>appear in the US and is still the same omnipresent god, but in a new avatar that will be changed to suit the new community
This one makes sense because of Odin and Crnobog and with all the rebranding spiel, but it doesn't make sense with all the Jezuses appearing to be different entities.

>>85830076

My understanding is that new gods are created when there is enough belief in them and from then on they're permanent until they get killed or no one believes in them any more.

So Odin and Crnobog were created by belief in Scandinavia/Europe and moved to the US.

But because the image of Jesus is so different in different cultures, different cultures effectively belief in separate Jesuses, resulting in loads of Jesuses for various countries

Neal Gaiman is a scientologist.
The only real God for him is the Emperor Xenu.

>>85824664
>goddess of love
>an old black tranny
Wow yep it's America alright

>>85830076
When a god migrates in the minds of their followers from Europe to America a new version of that god is created in America. They are two separate independent entities powered by the belief of their respective nations. To use the Viking example at the very beginning of the series, those Vikings brought Odin to America; at the moment they began to worship and call for his help an Odin was created in America and he never left even though his followers did; although he was probably very weak for a very long time.

Wetback Jesus in America is completely separate from Wetback Jesus in Mexico. American Odin is different from Icelandic Odin. The things that occur to American Odin have absolutely no effect on Icelandic Odin.

There should only be one Jesus in America, not the multiples we are shown. However, the explanation somewhat makes sense so you have to roll with it. It would follow that there's also a Black Jesus in Mexico as well as one in America.

As an aside, one of the problems in the show is that Easter is shown taking away the spring, which is something that should no longer be within her capacity to do because it is not a part of her belief structure. The show has added some new concepts to the mechanisms of the gods so we'll have to wait and see how that works.

>>85830076
They are thought forms, not really a god entity like we are used to see in other series. They represent human ideas in flesh.

>>85829406
Why do you format your writing like that?

>>85830338

I didn't like the Easter thing either; there's no reason to believe people will start praying to Easter for the spring to return, they'll either pray to Jesus or turn to technology to solve it.

the last episode was gorgeous

>>85827370
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>85824664
The show is EXTREMELY slow paced. So if a slow build, and I mean slow, isn't your thing then the show will not be for you.

And by slow I mean, those 8 episodes cover only 5 chapters of the book.

>>85829406
It's a decent show. But then again I'm not a /pol/tard so I can see a show with black people or women and not flip the fuck out about "white male genocide"

>>85830414
Cucked by Dane fucking Cook. You can say Shadow got....Cooked.

>>85830449
It creates a lot of fucking problems. It grants them superpowers that they have no business having. It gives them much too much autonomy; if they could funnel their belief into any power they wish, then there is absolutely zero reason why ANY of the gods lost any of their power.

If they had the power to act in defiance to reality, at the very moment of waning of their power they would have done said miracles to generate an immense amount of believe decades if not hundreds of years ago.

Odin being a trickster, Anubis being a god of death, Anansi being a weaver of tales, Vulkan being a god of war, and the New Gods are all acting within their belief structure. The New Gods are so goddamn omnipotent because technology and humanity's faith in science and government to solve problems grants them that omnipotent power.

But Easter should have remained her Christian incarnation. It was good she could resurrect Laura but that display was outrageous. It's a shitty writing outlet that essentially lets the writers write the gods as capable of anything regardless of the situation. It's unrestricted and non-sensical now. And knowing television writers, they won't explain or justify it.

>>85830630
Shouldnt the Jesus incarnations be the most powerful around then? Haven't watched the show, but I'm thinking about reading the book now

>>85830730
Jesus is so powerful that he's in his own league. He doesn't care about petty catfights of puny gods. He's barely in the book at least in the version I read.

>>85830730
In the book there is only one Jesus; the show has multiple Jesus. In the book he only appears in the "deleted chapter" at the end of the book and he's not a part of the main story.

I'm not spoiling anything for you by saying this because remember, he's not in the story; but yes, Jesus is stupid powerful in the book and without question the most powerful Old God, possibly more powerful than the New Gods, in America.

Read the book, it's a pleasant journey. There's also a full-cast audio book.

The show... goes somewhere; it's unfair to judge it by the first season but as I mentioned earlier the whole Easter thing took the "structure" of the world off the damn rails. There are parts of the show that are better than the book but that's only if it concludes in the future in a good manner.

what was up with the final act in the book? felt rushed af

act 2 was top comfy

>>85830261
not really
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/12/stars-who-quit-scientology/slide/neil-gaiman/

>>85830875
>>85830861

Ah that's pretty good imo. I love the concept of the idea, it has such a crossover feel to it which I'm a sucker for.

Btw, Supernatural did something similar with the gods in one of the later seasons but obviously not as fleshed out as American Gods seems to be.

>>85826007
>critique
Why are Americans so illiterate?

>>85824664
litterly a Black goddess
ive only watched the first episode but if she is in it alot more then i will probably watch the rest

>>85830946
Nothing was wrong with what I said.

>>85830735
flat

>>85827022
Fight Club
Starship Troopers

>>85831168
Found the nigger.

>>85831168
Dane Cook got a great ass.

>>85824751
shes supposed to be a sex god or some shit too, you would think she would look really attractive or sexy buuuuuuut.....

>>85831423
She's a washed up sex god. She's meant to be haggard as she's no longer worshiped.

>>85831576
I love how this has to be explained every AG thread.

>>85831343
That's true

>>85830979
“critique” as a verb is not really synonymous with “criticize”.

>>85831620
AG themselves didn't help the matters by using the same woman in her flashbacks. Should have cast a much younger but similar looking black woman to play her when she was at the height of her power.

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>>85831423
probably gay if you dont want her chocolate milk

>>85831423
she looks sexy as shit in the show you faggot

>>85831576
yeah but even when they showed her at her peak didnt she still look the exact same. ?

>>85830916
>Tfw the story finally picks up but it's almost over

>>85831679
look at her face are you blind shes nasty af. they could of casted a way better sexy black chick than her.

>>85831644
So?

>>85831792
>shes nasty af.
big luscious lips
beautiful dark eyes
cheeks you just wanna pinch
maybe her chin looks a bit weird but thats about it
would you rather have some gook?

>>85831765
Yeah that's why I said >>85831654 AG showed in the first episode that she gets younger(ish) when she absorbs someone, yet they used the same woman for back when she was in her prime.

>no one has explained anything and the writing makes it really boring
>he hasn't even gotten to the 2 filler episodes yet

>>85831876
Maybe her personality is magnetic as well?

>>85831898
>2 filler episodes yet

Dude... 2? The whole first season only covers 5 chapters of the book. 90% of the show is filler.

>>85831962
yeah, there is a lot of filler in every episode but you don't usually have entire episodes dedicated to it

>>85824664
>nothing makes sence, no one has explained anything
Say it with me
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I liked it a lot.
It was Ian McShane and Ricky Whittle that first pulled me into the series. I think both of them have good chemistry. Eventually it was the dreamlike road trip across rural America and the Americana aspect that kept me going back. I feel like Browning was miscast though, she's not a good fit for Shadow or the rest of the cast.

I like how they're taking the road trip slow, but at the same time the overall plot is moving a bit too slowly I think. I think the original novel maybe warrants two seasons of 10 hour-length episodes at most. I don't find any scenes apart from Wednesday/Shadow scenes to be particularly interesting. I'm already bored of all the current side characters.

To be fair, I've been a longtime fan of Gaiman's work and the original novel. And also I had been on a TV show 'drought' prior to watching American Gods (hadn't seen any other TV show for about a year) so it might have been more enjoyable for me than others. Afterwards I watched all of Westworld in the span of about a week and enjoyed that a lot too.