Removing Superman's Mustache From Justice League Is No Easy Task

>>85763865
And this is why the Hollywood system is not only idiotic but retarded.

>>85763865
It might be just me, but isn't it about 100 times easier to glue on or regrow a mustache than to digitally fucking remove it?

>>85764131
Yes, but I guess it's in his contract for MI6 or something. Maybe they are really committed to having it look legitimate. I tell you one thing, it had better look really fucking good in that movie.

>>85764281
Well, it's safe to assume that Superman's face looking like plastic will be just one of the many things wrong with it after being filmed by a depressed hack and then put together by a Marvel movies director.

>>85764131
Mi6 is filming and likely has stronger precedence over some pickup shots for JL. Probably some dialog scenes for the latter given we're just 3 months away from WB shipping the movie to theaters.

God the DC universe is such a mess. Reboot when.

Are people even against the idea of Supes having facial hair?

>>85765068
You don't reboot a universe that just made you some 800 million in the box office.

The difference between DC and Marvel's cinematic universes is that DC doesn't feel the need to baby their fans. They know that people are already very familiar with these characters so they jump right into the shit.

I...don't understand
Do they need to do reshoots, but he needs a moustache for another project?
I really don't understand what is going on here.

>>85765125
I was gonna say yes but I just looked it up and he apparently had some in Man of Steel.

>>85765208
>critizice DC
>B-BUT MARVEL...
Can't you have a proper discussion without spazzing out immediately?

>>85763865
Not to start any console wars, but Marvel already did this in the winter soldier.

The doctor in the bunker (Joe Russo) had a moustache prosthetic during regular shooting, but couldn't find it or anything that looked good for the re-shoots, so they just edited out his moustache.

He shows up in Civil War with a moustache again, though, kek.

>>85765406
Meaning that it shouldn't be prohibitively expensive for any studio to just photoshop the love caterpillar out.

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>>85763865

I thought that was Jay at first

>>85763865
Why didn't Cavill just shave?
It's not like he didn't know they were filming reshoots.

>>85765285
>Cavill is currently filming Mission: Impossible 6, for which he has grown the facial hair.
Second paragraph

>>85765484
By contract he's not allowed to, because of the new Mission Impossible.

>>85765397
No. Now fuck off.

>>85763865
He's so attractive, no homo

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I want to nuzzle on his beard

>>85765406
>>85765466
The real question is why anyone would ever wear a mustache.

Unless you're Sam Elliott or Nick Offerman, it just makes you look like a porn star. Wear a full beard or nothing at all. Nothing at all. Nothing at all.

>>85765699
Lois looks like she's about to cum from just looking at the superstache.

>>85765483
Jay looks like Henry Cavill's creepy cousin who really likes to hang around little kids.

>>85765522
>>85765543

Why can't they make a fake moustache for him in MI6?

Henry Cavill
Henry Cavill
If he doesn't scare you
No evil thing will
To see him is to
Take a sudden chill
Henry, Henry Cavill

>>85765947
Because he signed a contract.

>>85766013
a contract that it has to be a natural stache?

>>85766020
See what i mean? The only one bringing Marvel up is you, you obsessed, meme-posting retard. You deserve the shit DCU you got.

>>85766049
Apparently so. Never underestimate the autism of Hollywoodians.

>>85765208
>establishing a universe before a team up movie is babying the fans

>>85765812

How much would it take for someone without the resources that a Hollywood actor would have to get into that kind of shape?

>>85766157
>a year or two, depending on your discipline and resources.

>>85766130
Yes. True fans shouldn't need that because they already have the universe in mind.

>>85766284
Resources as in how much you can drop at roids and hormones

>>85765699
looks great, reshoot all his scenes with the mustache

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>>85766988

>>85766481
>studios are only marketing to "true fans"
WHEW

>>85766157
4-6 years natty
1-2 years on gear

>>85768408
Hence Wonder Woman being the most successful superhero film... EVER.

>>85769092
>ever

>>85765699
>im traveling at the speed of liiight
>thats why they call me mr.fahrenheit!
>im gonna make a super sonic man Out Of You!

>>85769156
EVER.

>>85765208
>800 million in the box office
That was below the number they actually wanted though

>>85769491
WAY below

>>85766130

By your logic:

>Magnificent 7: Shit set-up. I don't know these guys because there wen't seven solo movies showing me their childhoods, their personal enemies, and their growth into an iconic badass

>Lord of the Rings: same problem only worse, because we need to see movies explaining Sauron, the Wizards, the Elves, the back-history and cosmology of Middle Earth, magic, and still get solo movies for at least the fellowship

Star Wars: Same as above, only worse, because now not only do we need everything in Lord of the Rings, including ,magic(the Force), the different alien races, but also their politics, the politics of the rebellion, the rise of the Empire, the basics of space travel, and the fall of the Jedi Order.

>>85769556
>Star Wars: Same as above, only worse, because now not only do we need everything in Lord of the Rings, including ,magic(the Force), the different alien races, but also their politics, the politics of the rebellion, the rise of the Empire, the basics of space travel, and the fall of the Jedi Order.
It should be said that the EU does have literally all of this because Star Wars was awesome about side material before Disney took over. It supports your point though because none of this was released until after the movies. Basically, there's no problem with DC doing this because they can expand upon it later if they want. Heck, Marvel does the same thing - there are some comic books that explain stuff that was left out of the movies.

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>reshoots take weeks to finish
>could just have cavill shave and film all his scenes first
>cavill could regrow mustache by the time reshoots are done
>nah fuck that muh contract
>gotta entirely reconstruct cavill's face with CGI everytime he appears on screen just to remove his beard so that he ends up looking like CLU from tron legacy because the mission impossible team couldn't delay filming his scenes for a week or two or just get him a fake mustache

the ABSOLUTE STATE

>>85765947
Why should the makers of Mi6 have to compromise for some JL reshoots weeks before JLs release?

>>85766130
X-Men came out in 2000, before Spider-Man, Batman Begins or the Marvel Avengers bullshit dirt

>>85769556
That's missing the point though. Those are team movies, not team-up movies. The point of stuff like Avengers is not just to have a team but to have separate heroes from separate films crossover and team up.

>>85770722
So who decided Justice League was a team-up movie and not a team movie, you?

If they were to release a prequel about Boromir and Faramir dealing with an Orcish incursion into Gondor and it looked decent, I'd already be on my way to the theater to watch it. The same holds true for other characters I've seen in team movies.

>>85763865
I think maybe this is a smokescreen to cover up a plot point about Clark.

>>85771163
DC.

>>85769322
Underrated tbqh

>>85771449
That's funny, because I thought the way it's put together dictates which type it is, and you, by definition, defined it as being a team movie based off the fact that if the characters aren't already established in a previous film, they are, by that same definition, appearing in a team movie.

You can't even keep your own shit straight.

>>85771761
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are all established in previous films, and JL is directly aping the Avengers.

>>85770093
Better question, why the fuck are they still doing reshoots? What is going on in this flick's production that they fucked up so badly that they need to reshoot it this close to release?

What an inane waste of resources, holy shit.

>>85771917
Snyder left because his daughter an heroed earlier this year, so they had to call in Cuck Whedon to finish the job

>>85771917
they're not

>>85771814
Except it's not. It's barely even the same sort of story, they're not even brought together by the government, are, in fact, actively sidestepping the government because Bruce is filling that role as recruiter and organizer, and the themes it appears to be exploring are either handled in more depth, or even totally absent from the Avengers.

For starters, they're not defining themselves based off some flippant RDJ line about avenging people. Bruce spent all of BvS chasing vengeance. The League doesn't deal in vengeance.

>>85766481
>having a universe in mind
yea and its not zack snyders doom and gloom bullshit you faggot. just admit that dc fucked up. youre doing that thing that people do when they think their smarter for disagreeing with the general population.

>>85772077
Jesus Christ you're dense

>>85772077
cringe

>>85772100
We'll admit it when you acknowledge they were already discussing the direction the films were moving in before they even released BvS.

https://fansided.com/2016/03/11/justice-league-writer-promises-lighter-tone-than-batman-v-superman/

>>85772077
I think he meant the part about a dude coming through a portal to get a macguffin hidden on Earth to call in his army to conquer the planet.

>>85772126
>dense
Nah, I'm just not an assblasted, reductionist fanboy who thinks there's anything unique about the story that "The Avengers" told. People have been telling variations of that story as long as there have been stories to tell. The art is in the execution, the angle of attack.

>>85772077
>>85772077
JL is aping the Avengers as a superhero team-up movie, you plonker.
>le justice leaue isn't about VENGENECE

>>85772309
You still are arguing with thin air.

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>>85772354
Oh, I'm well aware. The hypocrisy just amuses me at this point.

>>85772100
>just admit that dc fucked up.
The only "fuckup" was cutting down Snyder's intended version of the film so that they could have more showings in theaters. People apologized when they saw the complete version and realized how much better it was.

http://www.screengeek.net/2016/07/01/internet-apologizes-to-zack-snyder-over-batman-v-superman/

>>85772401
Literally what hypocrisy? Why are you talkin about the "story" of JL like anyone gives a shit about that?

No one is claiming "JL is ripping off Avengers' plot". These films don't even have plots.

The concept of jumping in with a franchise of interconnected solo movies and a big team up movie, that is what's aping Avengers.

Don't start bringing up Universal Monsters or the usual asinine attempts at points either. You know full well after the Avengers was a blockbuster success, suddenly DC, Sony, Fox, Legendary, Universal and Hasbro even want to do the same thing.

No, Avengers did not invent "team-ups", but it is still Avengers that these studios are chasing.

>>85772401
>screencapping Polygon
Are you retarded or just an idiot?

>>85771350
Huh?

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>>85772523
But, but, I thought you just said it wasn't a team-up movie, but rather a team movie.

>waaaahhhh there's no plot

Speak for your own trash, faggot. DC 's already managed more organic world-building and myth arc than the MCU's managed to patchwork together with a ten-year head start and better than a baker's dozen worth of embarrassingly overt PowerPoint presentations.

>>85772726
I didn't say JL isn't a team-up movie.

>>85769092
Didnt take long to cgi her stache out neither

>>85772543
Go ahead and pick your own site at random, then. They all said variations of that same shot about the same time Homecoming's trailer dropped.

>>85772523
Yeah, except Fox preempted the MCU by nearly a decade. Let me guess - suddenly it doesn't count because they're "team" movies.

>>85772873
Why are you intentionally acting dense?

>>85772794
If you can show me Forbes saying it, then maybe you'll have a point. But you can't.

Why is the mustache even a bg deal. Is it really gonna shatter anyones immersion if superman returns with facial hair after being away/ sleeping/ whatever for years ?

When a fucking mustache halts production this much, you know DC fucked up

>>85772906
So just because they didn't call it the "X-Verse," it doesn't count? You might be able to recognize how obtuse *you're* being if you could look up from sucking Feige's dick so hard.

Here's the truth: early on, I was excited as hell about the MCU. Phase 1 was headed in the direction of pretty much everything I could have hoped for.

Then came the Disney buy-out

And all the spirit of the characters and anything more than the barest of lip-service to the lore and themes went right out the fucking window. The characters all became Flanderized variations on Tony Stark, who was in turn, understandably quipped-up to offset the absence of Spider-Man. All of a sudden, every last movie turned into a live-action reskin of the very worst that Pixar has to offer - shallows appeals to sentimentality, plot-driven characters, pathos, drama, and storytelling handled so superficially that you could pretty much cut and paste any character into another's film and never even bat an eye. You could practically make Disney MCU films by mad-lib.

When the DCEU took off, I was so glad, because I could tell from the outset just how radically different their approach was going to. Instead of zero-impact movie events, they're crafting an ongoing story that's held together with significantly more sinew and care than Disney's ever given us, mainly because Disney's not in the imagination business anymore. It's just marketing and cynical appeals to the lowest common denominator from here on out. I have never in my life seen a studio so eager to produce mere product, nor a public so willing to have every meal at McFranchise.

>>85773040

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2017/03/25/justice-league-trailer-offers-more-of-the-same/#2640ead475b8

If you'd like, I'm willing to give you a chance to "BTFO" yourself. It only seems fair.

>>85773248
If they're intercutting reshoots with scenes they already have that wouldn't work

>>85772873
why would the X-Men films count as a crossover teamup?

>>85774462
>long, heartfelt post
>Your response: "Cringe."
I wonder if your mother is as ashamed of you as I am.

>>85774746
Don't you have preschool in the morning?

>>85773871
It would be easier to add a mustache to the stuff they already shot than cg it off though. Not sure why they just don't do that. Though obviously they have almost unlimited resources so they probably just said fuck it.

>>85773582
Your opinion of the MCU is 100% irrelevant.

>>85775106
Because Superman with a mustache would look so fucking stupid. A full beard though, that would be cool.

>>85774436
Why would your artificial categories matter to literally anyone but you? There is no hard, fast distinction between a "team" movie and a "team-up" movie.

>>85775159
So is your opinion of his opinion.

>>85775357
But there very clearly is. One is a crossover of multiple series, which the X-Men films are not

>>85765756
haha you faggot

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>>85772077
>a superhero movie
>with characters that have standalone films
>leading up to a team-up
"b-but there are small thematic differences in how the characters interact, m-Marvel btfo"

>>85775980
Last person to respond to me got his post deleted. You're playing a dangerous game, pal.

why dont they just keep the fucking moustache on him? what the fuck is wrong with DC?

>>85776258
Because Superman with a mustache would look so fucking stupid. A goatee though, that would be cool.

>>85776258
It's reshoots so he'd have a magically disappearing and reappearing mustache.

>>85776185
okay, I laughed at that one

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>>85766157
He wasn't exactly skinny to start with, this is him in Immortals.

>>85763865

...Why not just let him keep the mustache and beard? Guys been dead for months after all. Just have it all shaved off in the last scene where they decide to become the Justice League?

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>>85765125

Superman with facial hair is superior in every way

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>>85777408

>>85775524
Oh yeah? So what's Homecoming, then? A team movie or a team-up, or an origin story?

I mean, it's an origin story of sorts, because it's proto-Spidey, but it has Iron-Man in it, so it's also a team-up. It has Damage Control in it, and they're a comic "team" in their own right, but it's also their first appearance.

So which is it?

I am gay for Henry Cavill. I am not gay in general, but I am gay for that specific actor. Weird.

>>85777604
I wonder if your mother is as ashamed of you as I am.

>>85777474
It's a Spider-Man movie, featuring a small role by Iron Man.

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>>85777463
>>85777408

The fact we aren't getting this is a crime

>>85773705
Thanks.
HAHAHA ANON BTFO

>>85777631
But it can't be. It's got other pre-established characters in it, so it must be a team-up. There is no in between in your world.

>>85766157
A lot of dedication and hard work and enough money to pay for five years at an olympic lifting gym

>>85763865
Why is this a daily thread now? Seems like a total nontroversy.

>>85777994
Because it's fucking funny. And it gives people an excuse to swoon over Henry.

I have reason to believe that the "reshoots" are just gonna be talky scenes anyway. They obviously already did the action scenes.

>>85777963
No, I think it's your world.

>>85763865
They should pay the other studio the cost of digitally adding the mustache. It's way easier to add one than remove one.

You wanna know who I blame for this? Snyder's step daughter.

>>85778789
Blame yourself or God.

Woah spoilers, I though supesman was dead!

>>85779805
Superman returning is such a poorly kept secret that even the end of BvS showed the coffin shaking like he was coming back to life.

By the way, HOW does he come back to life? Like what the fuck is this guy made of that he fucking dies and then he just gets back up like "Well, that was a nice nap."

>>85765406
Who the fuck are you even talking about

>>85781266
He gave you ample information to google it and find out for yourself.

Can we get some Henry webms pls?

>>85781289
Ah yes, the character played by co-director Joe Russo in the bunker that shows up in Civil War with a moustache

Except there is no such character

>>85781308
Can we get gifs actually? Webms don't load on my computer for some reason. I get some "Video format not supported" thing which is weird because sometimes I open them and they do work.

>>85780762
It teased the dirt moving slightly. That doesn't mean "WOAH I'M ALIVE OPEN UP THE HATCH! HAHA WHAT A NAP XD"

>>85781440
Sure, and Dio's coffin being pulled out of the ocean doesn't mean that Dio is alive. Oh wait, he is. Because he's a motherfucking vampire.

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>>85781410
Nice try, phoneposter.

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>>85777408
exactly.

>>85768408
Who the fuck doesn't know who Superman and Batman are?

Anyone got the gif of De Niro winking at Cavill? That was a good one.

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>>85763865
Just cgi the mustache on the other scenes and keep it in the reshots untouched.
Then have have a mustached Supes.
I can dig it.

>>85776203
Henry Cavillonce suffered what we can only imagine to be pretty embarrassing—he got an erection at a really inconvenient time...theMan of Steelstar reveals he had to say his sorry for getting a little turned on while filming a scene forThe Tudors.

"It's only happened to me once, and it was very embarrassing," he admits to the magazine. "A girl had to be on top of me, she had spectacular breasts, and I hadn't rearranged my—stuff into a harmless position. She's basically rubbing herself all over me and, um, it got a bit hard."

"I had to apologize profusely afterward," he adds. "It's not great when you're in a professional acting environment and somebody gets a boner, is it? No, not acceptable."

>>85781852
he clearly made that story up, everyone knows he loves the pole, not the hole.

>>85781852
>apologizing for being heterosexual
I know that's not the main point, but it's just hilarious. Most people would probably laugh it off, considering the scene, but for him to feel like he had to apologize profusely just sounds terrible.
>Jesus, sorry I got a boner! I was just in a...very different state of mind, hah. Can we move forward?

>please, Hollywood, I'm not straight!!! It was an accident, sorry, sorry, I'll suck some more dick, please.

The absolute state of Hollywood.

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>>85763865
>Fleet went on to explain that it can take up to six weeks to edit a moustache out of a one=minute clip

They should just let Henry Cavill do the editing then because he's way faster at losing his hair than they are.

>>85773582

Your opinion became 100% irrelevant the minute you regarded the DCEU as anything more than a cheap attempt at cashing in on the capeshit hype. There's a reason the JL trailers are all about quiping and retrying to recapture the Avengers essence, there's a reason why SS was a shit attempt at recreating GotG. Why are DCucks this delusional?

>>85764131
Why should the crew of Mission Impossible 6 have to deal with Justice League's problems? I don't understand why people don't understand this. They shouldn't have to work around Justice League suddenly needing reshoots 3 months before it comes out.

And this isn't a "fuck DC" post, if it was the other way round and Paramount wanted Cavill to regrow the mustache while he was filming Justice League that'd be absurd.

>>85777990
Or just pay the equivalent of a few months of gym membership + one room of your house to just get your own equipment. I got a good bar, bench, 300lbs of weights, and a power rack all for ~$500

>>85782023
I think they make most actors wear a dick harness whenever they're in a scene with a woman.

>>85763865
I had the weirdest dream about this guy about a week ago. I don't even know much about him other than 'Superman' and how you faggots go gay nohomo for his ass. Poor guy.

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>>85784110
Tell us more about the dream.

>>85763865
Based Tom Cruise killed the DCEU.

>>85780762
Kryptonians have a body-wide bioelectric field that's basically like supercharged "aura" or "soul," at least once they're in Earth's environment. It's partially responsible for their invulnerability and it also plays a role in their strength and ability to fly. You can see evidence of it in certain scenes where you see particles and even small objects levitating off the ground around them before they take off. It appears to be tied to their central nervous system in some way, and that's why breaking Zod's neck killed him - it simultaneously disrupted his control of that field and caused all autonomic functions to cease, ultimately killing blood flow to his brain and leaving him in at least a profound coma if not outright dead on the spot from brain death. However, it is conceivable that cellular respiration might have continued for him even in that state, considering the Kryptonian ability to store and metabolize certain wavelengths of solar/stellar energy. In other words, it's possible that Zod would have persisted indefinitely I some minimal state of consciousness given sufficient light. As it was, Zod's cells remained pristine due to the presence of that undirected field until the field was dampened locally at the cellular level by exposure to kryptonite.

Clark, on the other hand, still has an intact nervous system and thus his "aura" remains as well. In a very real sense, Clark might only be "dead" for no other reason than he believes he should be.

>>85784368
Holy shit. If this is true comics are pretty fucking complicated.

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>>85766988
Yeah, they can do the whole death and return of Superman where he comes back in different versions of himself. One just happens to have a mustache. It'll pair well with the shades.

>>85782249
Keep telling yourself the MCU is anything remotely like it was promising to be in Phase 1, fanboy. If you think it is, then everyone reading your posts knows who's really delusional.

DC's not only offering a more lore-faithful, Elseworlds-style take for the DCEU, but it's also subtly calling out Disney for all the ways it's started dropping the ball since phase 2. You think it was an accident that Superman's big controversy from BvS was showing up in a foreign war zone? It's one of the most memorable scenes from Iron Man and it's part of the plot's through-line into Iron Man 2, then, oh ha ha, hey kids! Mickey here! Maybe we should just have fun and stop exploring the implications of a suit that can level city blocks and singlehandedly cause international incidents being in the hands of a private billionaire who also happens to be a full-blown alcoholic.

Hell, they're even doing the same thing in their own movies now, proving how they can still be the "cool kids." Unfortunately, having thieves in Avengers masks robbing an ATM only comes off looking cynical while being self-aware when you're the guys laughing all the way to the bank while fanboys keep throwing money at their counterfeit "heroes."

>>85777474
a buddy movie

>>85784688
So THAT'S why that seemed so familiar. I haven't seen Iron Man in years so I completely forgot that BvS ripped that off.

>>85763865
post rare Henrys

>>85784543
Yeah, that's pretty much been the canon explanation for a lot of the physical Kryptonian abilities for the past thirty years or so. Sometimes you'll hear it referred to as a telekinetic field or "tactile telekinesis." It's also why Kryptonians can lift things that are too large to support their own weight, and "shield" people and objects they're in contact with in certain conditions - they can extend that field to anything they come into contact with, even if they're not fully conscious of that being what they're doing.

>>85764281
His first scene will be him with the stache looking into a bathroom mirror then shaving it and going the rest of mi6 clean shaven.

He's the ultimate troll.

>>85784851
Hm, so that's connected to the explanation for why Superman doesn't break someone's neck by catching them when they're falling, and stuff like that?

>>85763865
Superman confirmed for being in the movie for 5 minutes tops

>>85784750
And again, the difference is in the angle of attack. Tony shows up, flat-out kills a bunch of dudes, abandons their boss to be ripped apart by angry villagers, and kills a tank crew. We get a subplot that goes nowhere in the following film and a flippant line from Tony about being "the man who successfully privatized world peace," then? Yeah, basically never touched on again.

Superman takes out a drone, rescues his girlfriend, gets a halfass frame-up job laid on him and the world comes to a fucking halt, exactly like it really would.

>>85784882
That's a little spooky. Almost like some sort of metaphor for being a guy so famous and handsome that everyone wants the D.

>>85785354
I often wonder what it would be like if the same thing happened, but with a 60 foot tall woman.

>>85784901
Yes. Also, it's one of the cooler things they did with their re-imagining of Doomsday.

For starters, unlike other Kryptonians, Doomsday is shown absorbing pretty much *all*'forms of energy, including kinetic. Any time he's hit, you'll see a reddish glow appear at the point of impact. When he hits "critical mass," he sort of "pokevolves" into a new form and discharges that excess energy as a sort of "electrosplosion," but if you watch closely, you'll notice that the "explosion" is that aura we've been talking about expanding violently outward. When I noticed that, I couldn't help but admire the comic-booky science of it.

Not really.

There would be issues with filming MI6 where Cavil's stache would look different in different scenes and growing a mustache of the calibur of Cavil's isn't something that happens in a couple of days (which shows you are a manbaby that can't fucking grow facial hair). A decent thick mustache like Cavil is sporting can take a month minimum to grow.

Plus the shitheads at Warner should have done the movie right in the first place, not having to pay Joss Whedon to refilm huge portions of the film once they realized Snyder had turned in another shit sandwich.

>>85785698
It sounds like they really did put a lot of effort into being faithful to the comics with these films. It's a shame the critics were unable to appreciate them. At least until Wonder Woman, which I haven't seen yet, so I wonder if that continues to do it.

>>85778737
Studio and Cruise won't fucking allow that. Cruise has strict rules in place, to get him to keep doing MI films, that they don't use CGI bullshit and everything has to be as authentic as possible.

>>85764131
That would delay shit and create continuity problems for MI6 PLUS the fact that Cavill's doing a lot of action heavy scenes in MI6 that make a fake 'stache not viable since it could come off way too easily

>>85785767
Wow. Did not know Cruise was so based. Although that didn't stop him from doing Edge of Tomorrow which has a fuckton of CGI.

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>>85785511
For many moons, I have pondered that as well, kemosabe.

>>85785843
those suit were as real as can be all the actors complained about how heavy they were to use

>>85785503
It certainly wasn't pleasant; I felt so uncomfortable for him. I didn't even realize who he was until after I woke up. Perhaps your metaphor idea is it, but that's not something I think about consciously.

>>85785758
Wonder Woman does a great job remaining faithful to the lore, up to and including introducing the honest-to-gods Greek pantheon.

It's a much more streamlined story, though, so other than some of the world-building and hints that it drops, it doesn't leave much to discuss. They really do a fine job of keeping themes like "Heroism is a responsibility *you* choose, not one the world chooses for you," and "heroism isn't just the job of superheroes," pretty firmly front and center, and I love it for that.

>>85785974
Here's my question, are you actually gay IRL or did you just have a gay dream?

>>85786055
That's good to know. I'm sure I'll like it, anyway. You're so friendly and informative about this, I wish I had more to say. It's nice to see people on /tv/ who actually like to talk about comics and comic book movies in-depth instead of shitposting them all day.

>>85772077
These aren't stories, they're business decisions.
If you don't think the reason this movie exists is a DIRECT result of the Avengers making a shitzillion dollars, then you need to fuck off. Quit defending this garbage

>>85786222
'No' is my answer...to both of your questions.

>>85786417
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Yeah, never mock them pure visionaries at Disney, who'll leverage a deal on Sony, and make an incredibly lackluster Spider-Man movie for mother reason than to devalue the brand further and make it even more attractive for Sony to let the rights revert back.

Art, that is. Truly.