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faggots watch this show

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Doctor Whore

>>85721707
a lot of different people watch this show

Any draw or writefags willing to give us some good Missy smut?

We should start a Change.org petition to make the BBC change the 13th Doctor back to a man as it should be.

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You can choose three, but which ones?

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>>85721688
>he likes moffat

>>85721864
Zoe, Ace and Rose

>>85721817
It already exists, but typically in the form of Doctor/Master stuff, if you're into that.

why was the silence's plan so convoluted

>>85721817
I second this.

>>85721864
none, and they're also all very inaccurate

I have a confession.

Capaldi isn't my Doctor.
Eccles was my Doctor from episode one. He just carried me away with him with his first few lines.

Tennant was my Doctor from the his first episode too. His introduction to Sycorax was just too good.

Smith was also my Doctor from the first episode. He was just magnificent.

But Capaldi... still havent clicked with me. I really, really tried to love him as I love the others. But my heart tells me that he's just a cool actor playing eccentric old man. He never really clicked with me as a man with whom I'd surf through space and time having fun. I still enjoy some of his episodes, but he doesn't feel like my hero or my man, he's just a character.

Reminder than RTD is a hack and Journey's End is worse than Hell Bent

>>85721975
They were the ultimate Moffuck.

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>/who/ presents:
DOCTOR WHO: SHIT TRIPS Vol. 2
- The Anthology -

>Are you a true fan of Doctor Who?
>Have you ever written down a sequence of words?

If the answer is yes or no, then you are ready to contribute a literary masterpiece to the second /who/ collection of original Doctor Who-based short fiction.

/who/ did it once. Now, we're gonna do it again! Yet another entry in an age-old tradition of p̶a̶c̶k̶a̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶a̶n̶f̶i̶c̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶g̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶i̶r̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶l̶e̶g̶i̶t̶i̶m̶a̶c̶y̶ / celebrating the magic of Who and the talent of a community.

There are no limits (except the story must be at least 1 word long, and preferably not in excess of 10,000, it's short fiction you fuck).

>- Can involve any Doctor(s), companion(s), side characters, spinoff characters and beyond, as your heart desires
>- Can be in any style, whether it's "legitimate writing", "pisstake", or "shitpost".
>- Can be about absolutely anything
>- The main focus is on good fun in the vein of the wiki, although serious entries are allowed. (If you're going to write smut, maybe approach it with a degree of levity)

Stuck for ideas? Try starting with your favourite TARDIS team (or for timeliness, Whittaker 13th Doctor) and one of these authentic titles:
http://www.saberpunk.net/DoctorWho/DoctorWhoSerialGenerator.php
https://glyphobet.net/drwho

We are going to be starting an index on the wiki for the collection. Anyone can contribute, no signups/pitches required. If you have ideas, feel free to broadcast them.
The rest is self-explanatory. Format for uploading your work is up to you, as long as it can be conveniently copied across (and ideally don't spam long texts in /who/ directly). (Pastebin works well.)

BONUS: Anyone who wants to do cover art or "illustrations" is encouraged.

WE need more entries for classic as well as NuWho Doctors. Entries for Thirteen are accepted as well. Aug 10th is deadline

>>85721975
Moffat thinks if it's complex no one will notice it isn't good

>>85721864
Clara and Amy

>>85721864
>drawing every pair of tits the same

>>85722141
How would you have done it different?

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I think we all know where that bat' s been up

Someone asked if I was talking about the Shit Trips entry, yeah I was. It's not in final edited form but it's here if you want to look
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GL5sUqdaIp2KuadLS75M1_XEJnJnku1L9fmud9IV5wQ/edit?usp=sharing
WARNING: LONG

>>85722159
you do realize that breasts don't all look the same... don't you?

Here's a list of Doctors that still need stories. (You can still write stories with other Doctors who already have entries. In fact, I'd be glad to have them. The 12th Doctor only has three stories! And Bill doesn't haveany sstories. Not even Bill/ Heather smut!):

>Fourth Doctor

>War Doctor

>Tenth Doctor

Kris Marshall Doctor with Japanese companion

Morbius Doctor

Rupert Boothe Doctor

Foreman "Jack Miles" Doctor

Auton Stratagem Doctor

More Thirteenth Doctor stories would be nice as well.

I'll also accept stories with just the companions.

Perhaps a story where the Eighth Doctor and Charley run into Missy?

Or a story where Amy is stranded alone on Lesbos?

Or a story where the Eleventh and the Sixteenth Doctor battle polar bears in Russia?

Or a story where the Brigadier and the Thirteenth Doctor are hunted by a pack of wild Chumblies on an island?

Or a story with the psychic from Hide, and the Third Doctor, battle an influx of Daemons?

Or a story with the Class cast, by someone who waifus April?

>>85722213
I kinda wanted to not mention your fic. I wanted it as a surprise.

>>85722228
They do unless they're pancakes

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The 13th doctor is a white woman
that means 14 is going to be a colored man
he's still got a chance!

>>85722159
not giving everyone balloon tits for starters

>>85722181
No wonder it sparkles.

>>85722228
Yes, but given the art style and the fact HighHeeledJill probably hasn't seen most of these people's tits, I'm genuinely asking you how you would have differentiated each breast.

Like in the onion spoof of the TMNT movie the 4 turtles have penises that reflect their personality, would their breasts follow the same concept?

>>85722280
14 will be the return of based McGann

>>85722342
Nah, I'd have looked up the actual actresses, a fair few of which have actually bared their tits at some point or another

>>85722389
To my knowledge, 6 of the 13 have had their breasts and nipples visible at some point. He'd still have to make up 7 of them.

(the 6 being Clara, Amy, Martha, Rose, Leela and Jo)

>>85722284
I agree. It's lazy, and ignores what makes those characters hot is their different bodies.

>>85722491
He could at least put some thought into it.

>>85722342
It's not necessarily about making each individual as accurate as possible (although there are reference images for a few of them out there, as the other anon said), it's just... having variation. Better yet, making them realistic. There are plenty of references out there for drawing every part of human anatomy, but in this case I don't think the artist looked at any. Because, unsurprisingly, boobs don't look like balloons, unless they're fake. But... hey, if that's your thing...

>>85722566
Yeah I do agree, even if he had some fun with it. I think he was commissioned for these and so rushed it.

>>85722011
i know that feel man, personally i blame moffat for this

>>85722491
That's at least 6 he could've used.

>>85722566
He measured the amount of effort to put into that picture based on the effort put into the TV show of late and still came out on top.

>>85722634
HighHeeledJill is a giant-boob fetish artist. Half of his gallery is women from Star Trek with tits bigger than the length of their arms.

>>85722491
how many of the male doctors and companions have had their dicks visible?

>>85722683
Oh. Suddenly... everything makes sense.

>>85722011
Hoodie Capaldi clicked with me more than Tennant and Smith
Short Haired Capaldi did not tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO6apb7ZW8Y
Thoughts on the video

>>85722746
>that title
No

>>85722746
edgy clickbait title/10

>>85722722
Yea my mind tells me he's cool and he's the Doctor but it still doesn't click. Very rare moments like Mummy or Heaven Sent make me feel something, but this feel is so short-term and so confusing that it doesn't stick with me.
When Smith had his first episode I was damn proud that I'm fan of THIS show and not some shitty star trek or whatever, I wanted to share my love, even though it was one episode.

With Capaldi... I just accept him. I don't actually love him. And feels kind of sad.

>>85722691
For Doctors I know Smith, Tennant, Eccleston and T.Baker definitely have. The rest haven't, unless John Hurt has done something I haven't heard about.

As for companions, I have no idea. To my knowledge Darvil, Cribbins, and Clarke haven't, but I wouldn't be surprised if Barrowman has.

Anyone else not worried about what happens in the christmas special, because Capaldi already got his real regen story, the Doctor Falls was the real finale of Capaldi era, so even if Twice Upon a Time is shit, we have this.

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>>85722746
>RTD era logo in thumbnail

>>85722876
I'm not worried because I'm fairly confident it'll be good.

>>85722746
>makes subjective statement about writing quality
>acts as though it's a legitimate hypothesis
>its a fucking opinion

in the bin it goes

>>85722848
>Smith
is that just the fappening leak or is there a role where he was naked?

>>85722967
Just the nude leaks, though I've heard you can see his penis for a frame or two in The Lodger.

>>85722876
what >>85722930 says
it'll be self reflective characterkino, perfect way to finish his era. And based capaldi's regeneration wasn't caused by something christmas related for once

>>85722836
There's always gonna be doctors like that. Perhaps Whittaker will be more your style, or her successor. I thought Matt Smith was fantastic, but as a result of not enjoying that era I ended up not really warming to his doctor. But everyone's different, and you'll always have doctors you like more/less there's always big finish

>>85722876
I'm worried because Christmas specials are usually bad , except for 10's first story.

>>85723013
>based capaldi's regeneration wasn't caused by something christmas related for once
to be fair, Eccleston was the same, it's just david and matt

>>85722491
>>85722389
>>85722665
https://www.imgur.com/a/tkrhL

>posts this link every fucking time this gets brought up and everyone ignores it

>>85723084
>except for 10's first story
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
this is a joke right?

>>85723084
>Time Of the Doctor.
>Christmas Carol

The seond half is awesome

>>85723162
You don't like christmas invasion? Why so?

>>85723105
i'm glad they bucked that trend before it could ever really become one. otherwise the doctor would, quite justifiably, shit himself at the sight of a christmas tree

>>85723084
I'm curious, what's your thoughts on the dr who version of 'A Christmas Carol'

>>85723149
Even then, the artist couldn't use that picture of Elizabeth Sladen as a reference for Sarah Jane's boobs.

>>85723149
>mfw lalla has fantastic tits

>Time Lords are billions of years ahead of humans' obsession with gender and it's associated stereotypes
>two episodes later: First Doctor is sexist to Polly

>>85723209
On the one hand, Christmas is a nice time to say goodbye to a doctor, and welcome a new one, and I'd love a bit of exposition about the TARDIS always taking the Doctor to Christmas when he's going to be sad, or something. But if it's always christmas, it's just... odd

>>85723556
you dont understand moffat is a genius

>>85722011
Interesting, was always slightly on the fence about Eccles, like him but never fully clicked.
Took me a few episodes to warm to Tennant and Smith, ended up really liking both.

But Capaldi was absolutely my Doctor, he's the one I've always wanted since I was a kid, which is why I'm now on the verge of giving up on Who, as they fucking wasted him with some of the worst Who since Smith's middle seasons.

>>85723556
>First Doctor is sexist to Polly
where?

>>85723650
>But Capaldi was absolutely my Doctor, he's the one I've always wanted since I was a kid, which is why I'm now on the verge of giving up on Who, as they fucking wasted him with some of the worst Who since Smith's middle seasons.
upvoted

>>85723556
This is all part of the Moffuck Masterplan obviously

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>>85723650
>as they fucking wasted him with some of the worst Who

>>85723680
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-07-30/david-bradley-theres-a-lot-of-conflict-between-the-two-doctors-over-casual-chauvinism-in-the-doctor-who-christmas-special

>>85723650
>>85723703
also upvoted

>>85723809
stop posting these pictures when someone disagrees with you

>>85723650
>Le wasted capaldi meme
Fuck off and good riddance

>>85723926
>not fuckety bye

>no more "I am the DOHKTAH!" epic moments
>people are happy
what happened to this general

>>85723926
>the le meme meme

>>85724046
Nothing. People who post "w-what happened to /who/?" are such garbage

>>85723630
Yeah, it's a good time for it to happen in "our" world, but it'd really be a bit odd if every incarnation (post-10) met their end in a Christmas-related incident, or always around that time. It would end up making the Doctor nervous about Christmas as a whole.

I like the idea of the TARDIS having a hand in it, though. I can't remember if he's ever said as much, but perhaps the Doctor really enjoys Christmas as a concept (for him, I figure it'd mostly be about the idea that it's a time to be with your loved ones) so when he's sad, or going to be, the TARDIS would ensure he lands somewhere within that sort of time-frame. Just because she wants to cheer him up and she knows he likes Christmas. Except, because she exists in the past, present and future simultaneously, and also sticks him in Christmas-related situations when he isn't currently sad, but going to be (because she can't really tell the difference), she inadvertently causes the sadness by putting him in the situation that results in it.

Oh... I really like this idea, now. Especially because it does rather fit in - most Christmas specials either start with the Doctor being sad, or result in events that make him sad (even if briefly). Thank you for this idea! :-D

>>85724157
Why?

>>85724370
because it's dramatic bullshit. Nothing has happened to /who/, it's the same varying level of pointless and oddly interesting as ever. Opinions change as the show does.

How would you feel about something like An Adventure in Space and Time, but focusing on the classic show ending instead?

>>85724551
nobody likes you

>>85724425
sorry, I thought you talking about the show, like "what happened to who"

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I'm rewatching Season 9 these days, and I gotta say, "camp" takes you into the action billions of times better than "real" writing ever could.
Once you accept the level of special effects and the logic of the show, your immesion is titanium-grade solid. You're in there, you can get excited, plot elements become enjoyable again, and you can feel suspence and investment into the characters.

Meanwhile, in Soulless Milliondollarbudget Hollywood Capaldiland, your immersion is a paper-thin illusion supported by life-like CGI effects that are inevitably going to loos worse at some point, irreparably taking you out of the show and not allowing you back in once you're seeing the pathetic fakery everywhere.

Anyone else feeling like this?

>tfw Capaldi Doctor had the best OST

>>85724823
>Season 9
CGI didn't exist in 1972

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>>85724823

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-07-30/david-bradley-theres-a-lot-of-conflict-between-the-two-doctors-over-casual-chauvinism-in-the-doctor-who-christmas-special

Oh for fucks sake desu

1 (commendably for the 60s) wasn't written as a sexist, so why retroactively make him one? It's disrespectful.

This is meant to be 1 meets 12, but it sounds more like Hartnell meets Capaldi

>>85724823
to a certain extent

>>85724903

He doesn't say they did - he said special effects, which definitely did.

>>85724903
Whoops, meant 9th doctor.
Still doesn't mean anything though since Eccleston is still unsupported by "impressive" CGI.
If anything, his CGI effects test your immersion even more, like a Stark Trek episode.
if you're able to keep it even during those, you're going to have a blast, while nu-Who does absolutely nothing to build your resistance to it, making bad writing and effects much more noticeable

>>85724965
Moffat have said multiple times that he finds first Doctor era boring and once he even said it was "shit".
So he's rewriting it to make it 'interesting'

https://youtu.be/-U3jrS-uhuo

I have Doctor Who depression. Ultimately I feel hugely disappointed by Capaldi's Doctor and his era and my feelings towards Steven Moffat border on loathing. I'm also probably the world's biggest Jodie Whitakker non-fan and I expect very little in quality from Chris Chibnall. How do I stop being obsessed with the show that's making me miserable?

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>>85725045
>>85725045

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>>85725147

>>85725147
I feel the same and Jodie is probably my number 314 in "next doctor" list, but I'm fairly positive for Chibnall, so I still have hope.

Hug?

>>85725147
Rewatch older seasons.
They're great fun, and some of the jollier doctors can make even a catastrophe feel like an adventure you should be hyped for.
Basically, stop watching when the series stopped being british and became just more sensationalist Hollywood subhuman crashgrabbing garbage

>>85724965
Oh good

for a second I was worried we might get a fun, comfy christmas special

I'm glad to hear we're instead having Moffat change the characterisation of a 50 year old character to make a statement about a modern day political movement

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>>85725252

>>85725252
>Basically, stop watching when the series stopped being british and became just more sensationalist Hollywood subhuman crashgrabbing garbage
So stop watching by season 11?

>>85725147
Listen to BF

>>85721768
delet this

How does McGann still look so good?

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>>85725478

>>85724551
I could dig it. I think one for bringing the show back would be good too, and the issues surrounding Eccles.

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>>85725320
>Original series purists
You're as bad as people who won't watch the older seasons "because they look bad"
But the completely opposite evil

>>85725578
What part of that sentence implied I was a purist? I like both Classic and NuWho. Just mocking that guy for thinking there was a point when Doctor Who became Hollywood.

>>85725685
While his point of view seemed pretty extreme, I think it's fair to say that at some point NuWho lost its "spirit"
From Smith onwards it's less about fun adventures, and more about "Let's see how we can make the normies say 'aaah' with cheap drama next"

>>85725523
Cringe

>>85725731
Smith is all about fun adventures

So can we all agree that the best formula for Doctor Who is "doctor and companion are travelling for fun"?

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>>85725777

>>85725523
You couldn't even crop out the meme-site banner you lazy fuck.

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>>85725790
no

>>85725777
Only on the surface. They're cold, engineered adventures, made by a board of old men in suits and ties going "What do the youngsters want?"
It feels much less genuine than Eccleston smiling at a catastrophe, or Tennant's penchant for trying ot save everyone.

Smith's just kind of...there. Going through the motions, just because he had to.

>>85725790
No, because traveling with the Doctor rarely is fun. It makes the characters seem like idiots.

>>85725827
I want fun adventures inside her pussy.

>>85725899
Wondering if you are 'GOOD MAN...." is making characters look like idiots, not an urge to have fun.

>>85725889
>thinking Doctor Who hasn't always been run by a board of old men in suits and ties going "What do the youngsters want?"
This is like thinking Star Wars became a corporate product when Disney bought it and not when George Lucas literally made corporate products like action figures and merchandise.

>>85725147
the neet life puts a weird toll on you

>>85725790
Me personally, I loved Doctor Who when it was about adventures and fun.
The best personality a doctor could have is "Enthusiastic about events unfolding, but unhindered by attachment to people he can just revisit at any point in time anyway"
NuWho is excessively bogged down by people he's constantly worried about, despite none of them being fixed time points and him having a fucking time machine.

NuWho suffers from the opposite problem of Rick from Rick and Morty. He cares way too much for no reason, crippling his potential for adventure just so the American audience can have more cheap drama shoveled into their supersize mouths.

>>85725790
That's not much of a formula. It certainly has little to no impact on the individual stories.

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Scaroth reporting in.

https://youtu.be/E-ERgS_sSMA

why do companions get mad at the Doctor for being in danger when he multiple times warns them and even tries to leave them behind

>>85723084
Last Christmas and Husbands are great, and Mysterio is good
Twice upon a time looks better than any of them just from the trailer alone. Might even be the very first GOAT christmas special

>>85726129
Because most companions are women, so they want to feel like the doctor cares about them by expressively showing concern for them.
I know, it's dumb. But so are most women.

>>85724965

>"He goes into the Twelfth Doctor’s Tardis and says ‘it’s a bit dusty around here, it’s in an awful state isn’t it? Where’s Polly? Shouldn’t she give it a spring clean?' And then Peter’s saying ‘you can’t say that’.

I've only seen 1's original TARDIS team, but he always treated Ian and Barbara as equals. He even pretended that Susan wasn't a whiny, useless little shit.

>>85723556
the doctor lies
he was just trying to show off to bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yboaJYXisGY

this guy does a great Eccles impression but this speech simply doesnt suit him
Nine was really straightforward in his expressions so it feels odd

Shit Trips 2 entries, anyone?

>>85726129
Actually, companions rarely complain about the danger. They complain about heartbreak, and having too much responsibility, and danger to loved ones, but rarely about danger to themselves.

>>85726238
What are you talking about? He always got Ian's last name wrong, and treated them like nuisances for most of the first season. It was only after Susan left and Vicki showed up that he grew attached to them.

>>85726283
the Ponds complained all the time
always blaming the doctor when one of them ended up in some terrible situation

>>85726049
>just so the American audience
Why do britbongs blame America for everything?
It's not like you guys are any better

>>85726342
I'm not British, just Yuropoor.
But generally it's an objective truth that the harshest cuts and dumbing downs of plots are done after the American test screenings of anything.

Remember that time when 10 got all edgy?

>>85726406
the consequence for it was literal death

>>85725985
You seem to be implying implications

>>85726215
woah there buddy boy

>>85726316
Each one complained for the other. Amy loved adventure--it was when Rory got hurt that she became upset. Rory actually did complain at first, but that's because he was the voice of realism, and he got more comfortable with adventuring as it went on.

>>85726215
what's your opinion on oreos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MUCSziRkt8

>>85726281
Great impression, but has absolutely no emotion. I agree that this speech wouldn't really have fit 9, but this video isn't a good indication of it because the dude speaking is so monotone, he sounds like he's fucking dead inside. I mean, I know 9 was depressed as fuck about the Time War or whatever, but he was far more animated than this.

>First Doctor
>refers to Red Indians and their savage minds
>complains that a madhouse is full of Arabs
>locks Susan out of the TARDIS and expects her to settle down with a man she's only known for a few days
>calls Nero an extraordinary fellow for chasing a helpless woman down a corridor
>yet it's somehow too much of a stretch to suggest that he could be patronizing to Polly, a teenage Earth girl that he only has a few adventures with before turning into Two

>there was a secret Doctor all along

fuck me if it isnt a cheap twist

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>>85724965
>we're going to change the past to make it more in line with modern sensibilities
>except the things that were actually alright, we're going to make them more offensive lol

Remember when the Doctor killed himself because Rose left

>>85726652
>>calls Nero an extraordinary fellow for chasing a helpless woman down a corridor
Extraordinary in this context means strange. At least now I know wtf you were talking about the last time you posted this bait.

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>What would happen if Donna never met the Doctor?
>Aided by a familiar blonde time traveler

>>85726711
based Great Intelligence rewriting the past

>>85726692
The War Doctor never felt like the Doctor to me. I know the whole point of him was that he was distinct from the rest, but it never really clicked. Like, seeing War with 10 and 11 - I didn't feel like I could look at it and go "yeah. that's the doctor." John Hurt gave an amazing performance, but the fact that War just popped up out of nowhere and it was the first we had seen of him, I found it hard to feel as invested as I should've... or could've, if it had been 8 or 9 standing in his place. At least, that's how I felt initially about him. I still feel that way a bit, but I've come to terms with it now and I can better appreciate War. I just get sad about what could've been if they got Eccles or McGann back for the special.

>>85726793
No, I don't.

>>85726914
Blame Eccles for doing a shitty Thor movie over hanging out with Tennant and Smith.
Blame Moffat for not bringing McGann back instead.

>>85726560
YOU helped to ruin it, you wanker. Along with that talentless sitcom writer Moffat. Your stories (with only ONE exception, The Unquiet Dead) were among the WORST. Just because you are a Doctor Who fan it does not mean that you are in the least bit suited to write for it. And both Moffat and YOU are proof of that. Doctor Who will be dead by 2020 - and YOU, Mr Gatiss, helped to kill it. All that remains is for Chibnall and Whittaker to bury it. I hope you are proud of yourself.

>>85726900
cocky inter dimensional Rose should be raped by a pack of wild niggers

>>85726916
He means Turn Left

>>85726793
...no

>>85726977
Shut up you spastic he isn't here

>>85725790
I think the idea of formulas is inherently opposed to what makes Doctor Who so great

What if the Great Intelligence is the Shalka Doctor?

>>85726863
How is this bait? One was more often than not an old-timey asshole with a hint of wisdom. Besides, you guys are acting like he thinks women are half-animal just for complaining that Polly hasn't cleaned up the TARDIS.

>>85727056
but he didn't kill himself there

>>85726914
Same, it's partially because he has no era. He doesn't even work as a wilderness doctor, because we have a wilderness doctor (two really). I dislike the "use him as a standin for classic who" because it's nonsensical - he's freaked out by 10 kissing and being romantic, but 8 already did that. War Doctor isn't something that inherently works well or plays into Doctor Who neatly, he's a workaround born of a casting issue. If not for Hurt and his brilliance he'd be looked upon far worse.

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>Jenna will never suck you off like she did to this dog

why live?

>>85727077
>implying Gatiss isn't a /who/re

>>85727119
If the Doctor didn't meet Donna he would've let himself drown under the Thames when he killed the Racnoss because he was angsting so hard over Rose

>>85727168
I don't get why they couldn't have just had 8 in there.

>>85727293
because nobody wants that cunt shitting up the 50th

>>85727168
He should have been an old, perhaps deformed (with a bit of makeup) 8th Doctor.

All his Doctor did was mess up the numbering scheme and make it confusing, leaving fags on Youtube to call the 11th Doctor the 12th, and so on.

Nobody would have counted the Stolen Earth regeneration if the Doctor didn't count it in Time of the Doctor

>>85727200
>she will never giggle while you bite her nipple and shake your leg

fuck

>>85727293
Moff thought it would be out of character for 8, and had always liked the idea of a mayfly stunt casted Doctor, so 2 and 2 made 4.
As for being out of character for 8, well, that's what would have made it interesting, and why Big Finish had been slowly massaging him to get him to to that point for years and years. All the Time War as the cancellation meta stuff would have played much more naturally with 8, and McGann is a great actor.
Of course 9 would have worked the best, but oh well.

>>85727344
I agree

>>85727344
>All his Doctor did was mess up the numbering scheme and make it confusing, leaving fags on Youtube to call the 11th Doctor the 12th, and so on.
WHO
GIVES
A
FUCK

>>85727351
>She will never cuddle and kiss you at every moment just because you're cute.

Why ;_;

>>85727077
read the comments on that video dummy

>>85727168
>I dislike the "use him as a standin for classic who" because it's nonsensical - he's freaked out by 10 kissing and being romantic, but 8 already did that.
Yeah, but for the purposes of a 50th anniversary celebration of Doctor Who, the McGann era might as well not exist. McGann exists as part of the list of Doctors and it's nice that he was acknowledged with NOTD, but all his stories except one are super obscure that one is barely treated as canon anyway.

>>85727168
Yeah, I feel like if it hadn't been John Hurt in the role, Moffat would've been absolutely slated over the introduction of the War Doctor. An amazing actor was needed to sell that character, and thankfully we got one, but I still fail to integrate him with the rest of the Doctors in my mind. He just stands very separate, which I suppose is kinda the point of him - he's intended to be something very distinct, after all - but it just doesn't feel as natural as it should.

It truly would've been amazing to see Eccles and McGann reprise their roles - ideally, both, with 8 being the one to use the Moment, and 9 being there to represent himself in the direct aftermath of that decision. Now I've made myself sad imagining how good that would've been.

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Moffat said he was very precise about not making the face look like Eccleston much, or for long, because he didn't want to misrepresent Eccleston as taking part in the special, as per his wishes.

I thought it was a bit ehh how the WarDoc randomly died too, the weight of the Time War lifted off him and being so old, yeah it works, but it felt kind of clumsy. His last lines were very very on-the-nose wink wink which also felt ehh to me, in an anniversary that did a good job of generally avoiding that.

>>85727446
And the Hurt Era literally does not exist.

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>>85727397
>she will take a shit while you're in the bath and casually ask you about your day in between grunts and farts

c-clala pls

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>>85727446
>the McGann era might as well not exist
>using this to defend the War Doctor

>>85727519
>She will never be casually nude around you and let you lick her

Where's my fucking revolver?

>>85727545
It's not being used for the sake of defending the War Doc specifically, just saying that he can't be accused of retreading ground that barely fucking anyone is aware of happening in the first place, or at the very least doubts that it is canon.

>>85727486
8 AND 9 maybe would have been indulgent but damn, I would have absolutely loved that too.

Yeah to my mind the War Doctor is relegated to the same spot as the Watcher, the Valeyard, Dream Lord, etc, an alt-Doctor thing, not an actual Doctor. It irritates me to see him included in posters with all the Doctors and all that. A 2013 Doctor between a 1996 and a 2005 one makes no sense and muddies up how the Doctors represent different eras, misrepresents RTD's era by making it all look like a big planned thing in ways that undercut some careful story choices RTD made, and also is silly because if we're including regens like that, meta-10 should be included too, since he took a whole regeneration.

I wonder what other actor could feasibly have done the role, if Hurt had declined it.

>>85727616
>she will never hold your dick as you pee and "jokingly" aim it into her mouth and gargle it as you both laugh

WHY

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>>85727640
>I wonder what other actor could feasibly have done the role, if Hurt had declined it.

Eric Roberts

>>85727491
>Moffat said he was very precise about not making the face look like Eccleston much, or for long, because he didn't want to misrepresent Eccleston as taking part in the special, as per his wishes.
That's kind of weird considering he did use footage and dialogue from Eccleston for the ALL THIRTEEN scene.

>>85727491
>>85727545
I'm just saying, whatever 8 did in his ear stories or books isn't that relevant as a continuity point.

>>85727696
I love Eric Roberts and love the 96 movie, your casting idea makes no sense but I'd be thrilled by it.

>>85727686
>She will never snuggle up to your crotch for warmth on a cold winter's evening

What's the point?

>>85727640
>Yeah to my mind the War Doctor is relegated to the same spot as the Watcher, the Valeyard, Dream Lord, etc, an alt-Doctor thing, not an actual Doctor. It irritates me to see him included in posters with all the Doctors and all that.
Same. I think we'll see less and less of that as time goes on.

>>85727718
>That's kind of weird considering he did use footage and dialogue from Eccleston for the ALL THIRTEEN scene.
He said he didn't want it to look like Eccleston had filmed new footage. Showing archive footage in a scene that also features the other 8 classic Doctors clearly in archive footage isn't likely to have the same impact as having a special regeneration scene on its own that isn't comprised of clips from old episodes.

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>>85727809
>She will never fart on your dick while spooning with you

>>85727735
I unironically would too.

not gonna lie guys this jenna talk is legit creepy

>>85727816
>Eccleston hates Doctor Who so much he doesn't even want it to possibly appear like he was in it after 2005

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>>85727855
>She will never sit on your face and wiggle her breasts, taunting you

>>85727887
still doesnt hate it as much as neo

>>85727881
I don't think half these people in here are actually fans anymore. I would let Jenna Coleman do whatever she wanted to me but stopping at causing me bodily harm. No face sitting either.

>>85727718
I'm not arguing 8s EU stuff is relevant, I'm saying that how they positioned the War Doctor in relation to the legacy of the series (like a Classic Doctor commenting on NewWho Doctors) didn't really make sense, but that a big stunt casting was a wise move for a big special. I'm not a continuity-heavy type if that's what you're mistaking me as, I don't give a fuck about "canon".

>>85727815
Yep, without an actual era it'll fade away a bit.

>>85727856
He always dresses for the occasion!

>>85726291

Sorry, meant that he treated Ian and Barbara equally to each other.

>>85727640
Indulgent, but in my opinion - if this was an ideal world, wherein casting was no issue - it'd allow for the best version of the special. I know people don't think that 8 would've been the one to use the Moment, because it'd be "out of character," but I think people forget the scale of the Time War, or the atrocities seen in it. We got a vague idea of that in NOTD, and I think a situation like that would be enough to push anyone to their limits - even someone like 8. War changes people, and for a war that scale... nobody could come out the other end of it and be the same as they were when they went in.

And yeah, that's how I feel about the War Doctor too. It makes it even easier to think that given that he isn't numbered like the rest. I don't ignore him, but neither do I actively consider him a part of the "official" line-up of Doctors. He's part of the character, but just that... a part. I'd have felt different, probably, if he'd been introduced earlier, or if we were given more time with him (outside of his interactions with his older selves), but as it is right now, he was plopped into the middle of the Doctor's life in one single episode, then booted away again, and even though I know this isn't the case, it very much feels like, in canon, he existed only briefly. Like, despite being aware that he was there for hundreds of years during the Time War (I think?), given his introduction and how little we saw of him in the grand scheme of things, I feel like NOTD > DOTD occurred in sequence, so that ultimately the War Doctor only existed for, like, a day. I very much know that's not the case, but given the abruptness of his introduction and departure, it just feels like he popped in exclusively to activate the Moment, then fucked off again.

>>85725064
Sauce

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>>85728032

yfw the First Doctor in Twice Upon a Time is a sexist racist with alzheimers'

yfw the First Doctor regenerates into Troughton in Twice Upon a Time and Moffat makes hi a sexist racist too

>>85728192
Who would they cast to play 2?

>>85728192
>Ah, I seemed to have undergone a renewal! Tell me, future self, do you still hang around with that carpet munching wog?

>>85728252
Reece Shearsmith

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>>85727911
>she will never pretend to be a Dalek and chase you a plunger, threatening to fuck you with it

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>>85728079
I agree with absolutely everything you're saying t b h!

Yeah I like Hurt and how he was so enthusiastic about being part of Doctor Who but yeah...putting him alongside Hartnell and Tom Baker and Tennant and all that feels kinda screwy.

I also don't like how I feel like his characterisation got retooled inbetween Name and Day. You can reconcile this by "yadda yadda Name was just in 11's timestream so it was a misrepresentation" but it was the first look the audience got at the character and it didn't really fit with what came later.

"What I did I, I did without choice, in the name of peace and sanity" is an enormously arrogant and uncaring thing to say about committing double genocide, it sounds like a proper offputting "warrior" Doctor. Then in the 50th the War Doctor morosely putting himself down with "great men are forged in fire, it is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame" doesn't shore up with that at all. And there's just little things too, like 11 and 10 in the 50th going on about how they tried to forget him, yet in RTD's era 10 (not to mention 9) blabs on about fighting in the Time War all the time.

>>85728284
Then Gatiss as Pertwee

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>>85728312
>She will never eat a meal in a public place with you, with a vibrator lodged inside of her at all times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gijATa68cEk

>>85728373
In the very same episode Clara says to War that 11 is "always talking about the day he did it".

>>85728460
>video of some creepylooking fucker in front of a camera in total darkness
No thanks

>>85728490

Think of it as a mirror

>>85728489
Yeah the whole idea just doesn't really work.

-Doctor talks about fighting in the Time War all the time
-OMG MY GREATEST SECRET IS THAT I, UH, FOUGHT IN THE TIME WAR WITH A DIFFERENT FACE

The "Doctor's name meaning something" idea is cool, and some of the ideas swirling around the WarDoc kinda work, but it just kinda stands as a clumsy retcon at a lot of points. At least Hurt gave a killer performance, really great stuff.

>>85728373
>"What I did I, I did without choice, in the name of peace and sanity" is an enormously arrogant and uncaring thing to say about committing double genocide, it sounds like a proper offputting "warrior" Doctor.
The War Doctor should have been the villain of Day of the Doctor.

>>85728403
>she will never hold your hand

>>85728655
That line sure sounded like he was one right? Casting off responsibility for a tonne of deaths is such an un-Doctor thing, can you imagine 9 going "pfft yeah i totally did it without choice, they really forced my hand, I was just acting in the name of keeping things sane in the membrane"? "Peace and sanity" is such an arrogant phrasing too. It's a great line honestly, shame the character went in a different direction in the end.

As messy as that episode was, the ending scene of Name really is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1lAHEaOg6w

>>85728682
Pervert.

>>85728682
>She will never call you when you're away with her feet up in the air.

neo loves doctor who

>>85728373
>"What I did I, I did without choice, in the name of peace and sanity" is an enormously arrogant and uncaring thing to say about committing double genocide, it sounds like a proper offputting "warrior" Doctor. Then in the 50th the War Doctor morosely putting himself down with "great men are forged in fire, it is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame" doesn't shore up with that at all.
How are they inconsistent? In both cases he's convinced of the necessity of what he did/was going to do but isn't proud of it.

>>85728911
*hates

>>85728918
because neo hates doctor who

>>85728818
>Only 1, 4, 5, 6 and 9 run past.

Wonder why those 5 were chosen?

>>85728918
The second line is the Doctor pitying himself, insulting himself, the first line is the Doctor justifying himself, rebuking 11's negative comments about him.

>>85728982
Recognis-ability of their costumes maybe?

>>85729025
The thing that pissed me off about that ending is they say "but not in the name of the Doctor", but immediately afterwards they credit John Hurt as just "The Doctor"

Even "The War Doctor" would have worked.

>>85729025
>The second line is the Doctor pitying himself, insulting himself, the first line is the Doctor justifying himself, rebuking 11's negative comments about him.
Those don't conflict though. He can be down on himself and still defend his actions.

>>85729132
lel yeah that felt amusing to me but I don't think that's what they were going for

>>85729158
I'm not trying to knock your interpretation, just offering mine

What is Pie Lord's best story?

>>85729208
I love Jubilee

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>>85728852
>she will never make this expression as she mounts you after being apart for weeks

>>85728373
Yeah, the whole "the War Doctor was never mentioned because we tried to forget that part of ourselves" that 10 and 11 had going on didn't gel with what we had from 9 and 10 in RTD's era. They talked plenty about the Time War, so with that in mind, it really does just feel like their big secret was that he was wearing a different face. The only other explanation is that the War Doctor did some fucked up shit outside of using the Moment, because the Doctor has generally always defined that as the worst thing he's done, but he spoke about it freely before the War Doctor ever came along. If he can speak about committing double genocide, but is desperate to forget the War Doctor's existence, surely that then implies that the War Doctor's actions were worse than the use of the Moment? Does that make sense?

Except, whilst that would explain the discrepancies between the Doctor's willingness to discuss the Time War but not that particular part of himself, it doesn't fit with the persona of the War Doctor that we saw in DOTD.

Really, when you think about it, it gets a bit confusing and messy and ultimately, I think it's pretty undeniable that the introduction of the War Doctor was a mistake... but one brought about by unforeseen casting problems. Nevertheless, it's canon now (or as canon as anything in this show can be) so no matter how much I stomp my feet and whine about how much better the 50th could've been with McGann and Eccles instead, I just have to accept that it is what it is.

(Don't get me wrong, I loved the 50th and I thought it was highly enjoyable. I don't think it's bad, even with the sorta... plotholes, of sorts, that it introduces. I just know it could've been so much better, and that's what gets me.)

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post more clalas

>>85729462
>>85729573
Guys, it's been two years. It's time to move on.

>>85729561
>it really does just feel like their big secret was that he was wearing a different face.
Especially when the general attitude of the show (bar 10 close to regeneration) is that they're all effectively the same man and the changed face doesn't matter too much.

> The only other explanation is that the War Doctor did some fucked up shit outside of using the Moment, because the Doctor has generally always defined that as the worst thing he's done, but he spoke about it freely before the War Doctor ever came along. If he can speak about committing double genocide, but is desperate to forget the War Doctor's existence, surely that then implies that the War Doctor's actions were worse than the use of the Moment? Does that make sense?
Yeah, I felt like that was the implication, but then he was pretty cuddly in the 50th, and the few bits of media covering his earlier life (like the audios) really do not play well into the idea of "he was a total fighting hardass/badass when he was younger".

>Really, when you think about it, it gets a bit confusing and messy and ultimately, I think it's pretty undeniable that the introduction of the War Doctor was a mistake... but one brought about by unforeseen casting problems.
I guess it depends what you call a mistake. You and I don't really like the whole thing, but he seems pretty generally liked by audiences, and the 50th was a big success. Time will tell I guess.

>(Don't get me wrong, I loved the 50th and I thought it was highly enjoyable. I don't think it's bad, even with the sorta... plotholes, of sorts, that it introduces. I just know it could've been so much better, and that's what gets me.)
Yup, same. I love love love the Curator scene at least.

He's depressed, cause he's just realised that moffat has left him with the title of the man who killed doctor who for another three generations.

>>85729785
>I guess it depends what you call a mistake. You and I don't really like the whole thing, but he seems pretty generally liked by audiences, and the 50th was a big success. Time will tell I guess.
True enough! The War Doctor wasn't a mistake in the sense that he was disliked. He was good for what he was, and I enjoyed him in the 50th, even with my reservations about him. He was only a "mistake" to people like us, who think about this stuff in depth (which most viewers of the show don't; we're a minority here!), and even then, that's only when you consider him from the angle of the plot discrepancies he creates. I do think he was well-acted and an interesting take on the Doctor, and as much as I lament about missed opportunities, I've long since accepted that he's canon, and I'm okay with that.

>>85730101
Very nice to speak with someone with the same thoughts on the whole thing too b t w, I usually get called out for being petty about the whole thing

I miss random Time Lords running Into the Doctor.

>>85729838

Idk, I think Moff told him how shitty the showrunning job would be and that the BBC is giving him full reigns, and Chibb's is already in DGAF mode and decides to cast a woman doc because why not? All the fans are gonna hate the choice anyways.

I don't need to watch Sarah Jane's Alien Files, right? Six webisodes that consist of clip shows doesn't seem worth the effort I've put into finding them.

>>85730101

I thought the 50th was mediocre, and pandered purely to redditards. The REAL 50th anniversary gift I felt was an adventure in time and space.

>>85730212

I would dearly love that.

>>85730216

Moff barely spent any time in the office - he actually spent more time in Gattiss' trailer figuring out details for sherlock, and left all the day to day running of who to the underlings - hence the delays.

I'm not opposed to the casting of a female doctor btw, I just think in today's progressive climate, positive male role models are actually few and far between.

>>85730404
no

>>85730502
>pandered purely to redditards.
That doesn't make sense. How do you pander to 4chan

>>85730176
Yeah, it's a pleasure to talk to someone on the same wavelength - or at the very least, reasonable even when not. Everyone's got their own opinions on stuff, and that's a good thing. Some people also don't realise that pointing out flaws in something doesn't mean you don't enjoy it, and in the case of Doctor Who as a whole, I know it's a running joke on /who/ that everyone here hates the show, but we actually are all here because we love it. It might disappoint us at times, or not live up to expectations, or maybe things happen in it that we don't think should... but none of would be posting on here if we didn't harbour love for the show despite its flaws. People will disagree about what those flaws are, of course, but it'd be a lot less fun if everyone everywhere just thought the same thing. So, I don't think you're being petty about it, and I think your opinion of it is a very valid one to have. Admittedly, that is in part because I agree with it, but still... I think I'd feel very much the same even if I didn't.

But, I'm CLEARLY being far too reasonable for /who/ right now, so: doctor who sucks

>>85730601

By going back in time, writing doctor who for a core sci fi audience and making sure that faggot RTD never gets his colossal giant arse on the property.

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>>85730628
>I know it's a running joke on /who/ that everyone here hates the show, but we actually are all here because we love it
Yeah that whole gag annoys me t b h, I genuinely and earnestly love Doctor Who and don't feel the need to coat that in irony or cynicism or anything. If someone truly does have a love-hate relationship with Doctor Who that's cool and fine, but if someone truly does just love it but is, I guess "cowardly" enough to pretend they hate it, I think that's kinda messed up, and I ain't interested in doing it.

>>85730404
I downloaded em back in the day and yeah they're worthless, don't bother, very much not worth the effort

>>85721688
Imagine being 60 and dressing yourself like that

>>85730765
>neo still pretending he doesn't hate doctor who
fucking stop

>>85730819
I bet you like donna

>>85730819
I ignore this sentiment getting posted most of the time because I don't want to derail the thread into an argument about me, but I'll reach out to you here - on the off-chance you're not just memeing around or trying to get a rise out of me, do you have a certain problem with me? A conversation you'd like to have with me? Have I upset you in the past and you would like to talk about? Is there any specific motivation behind you posting this all the time you'd like to hash out? I'm more than willing to have an actual genuine conversation with you if so.

If you're going to reply with just another meme-y answer or whatever, I'll go back to ignoring it because why bother engaging, but just letting you know that I'm willing to talk earnestly if you are.

SIR THE CLOISTERS

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You know what everyone's afraid of? Being on their own.
Imagine that somebody was sitting at a script reading (it's a thing - google it). Everything was going normal, all the actors reading out their parts. But suddenly, one line stands out. "Hang on, this doesn't make sense", he thought. Nobody else seems to notice, but the man won't stay silent for this has now piqued his interest. "What exactly is that line supposed to mean?" he calls out.
A silence enveloped the room. The shock and horror had absorbed all of the sound. Nobody knew what he was talking about. Nobody even responded. It was at this moment that the man felt a shiver down his spine.
Because his worst fears had been realized. He was on his own, and everyone else knew it. An HB pencil in a case for 2Bs. And right away, he was erased for good.

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this episode was fun as fuck, reminded me of the robin hood one a bit, and if you disagree fight me

>>85731250
Eh, it was fine. Husbands was way more fun,

>>85731250
I liked it a lot too but I was pretty inebriated both times I first watched it.

>>85730216
Chinballs already wanted to cast a female Doctor from the moment he got the job.

>>85731250
It's capaldi's worst christmas special
but it's still fun tier
he's had a really solid run of christmas specials

>>85731489
>both times I first watched it.
???

>>85731800
I like how Christmas heavy the post S9era is

Husbands
Mysterio
The Pilot has Christmas scenes
ends with Twice Upon a Time

>>85731854
lol I guess that doesn't make sense. The first and second time I watched it I mean.

>>85731489

Now that's really fucking drunk.

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>>85731899
Hey, Christmas is Christmas. Every Christmas could be Last Christmas

Remember when 10 was horrified at the thought of settling down and capaldi's done it twice now for decades at a time?

>>85731945
>Every Christmas could be Last Christmas
this is depressing as fuck
what was moff thinking?

>>85732002
I loved it, rang very true. You've never had Christmases missing loved ones that used to be there?

>>85732102
of course, it's just a pretty depressing and hard hitting theme

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THE CHRISTMAS SPECIAL

>>85732146
true that. moff's mum died while he was working on the monk trilogy for s10.

>>85731945
>>85732002

Moff was thinking "I put my hollywood career on hold for this fucking shitfest of a show, and I'm raking in more money for writing three episodes of sherlock a year."

Does anyone know of any Google Drives that have ALL of NuWho?

I would download them myself, but I was going to upload them to Google Drive anyway and I'd rather prefer not to waste the time if there is already an archive available.

>>85732002
moff went through an edgy phase in s8-9

>>85732239
>and I'm raking in more money for writing three episodes of sherlock a year
he only wrote 1 ep a season

>>85732002
You honestly never heard this before. It's not something provocative that Moffat just shat out. It means you should enjoy Christmas and not be a total cuntbag because it could be your last.

>>85732314

of who? it shows.

>>85732190
Kinda puts the ending of the monk trilogy into perspective. People shit on it for being a waste of all that build-up... but, with the context of what Moffat was going through at the time of working on that, how they ultimately defeated the monks makes sense.

>>85732392
Interesting take actually, I hadn't thought of it that way

>>85732392
woah thats actually pretty deep. poor moff ;_:

>>85732392
Oh, fuck. ;_;

>>85721707
It must be your favorite, then.

>>85732392
wew that never actually occurred to me
what else from the monk trilogy can be considered a look into moff's psyche at the time?

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Ah, [historical figure], what a wonderful fellow. He was in my [recreational activity group]. Hell of a [action related to that activity] on that one

>>85732829
that hair just never worked

Been rewatching Doctor who and I haven't seen a day of the doctor since it premired. A lot of it feels like it was written to be big because of the pressure of being the 50th. While Hurt is fantastic as the war doctor, that charachter wasn't needed.

If you were to rewrite the 50th, what would you do?
In this scenario, you have access to chris eccleston

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>>85732946
I disagree

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>>85732970
newwho version of zagreus

Question for all: when nuwho came along in 2005, did people think the series was a reboot of the original show or was it vague? Because the season with the ninth doctor has a weird reboot feel to it.

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>>85730212
Bring back Drax

>>85733081
There were people who thought the new show took place seperately from the old show or that eccleston was the eighth right up until human nature.

Me? I dont even think the new show is canon to the old one.

>>85732466
>>85732588
>>85732735
>>85732778
I'm actually surprised that people didn't realise this. I was disappointed in the ending to the monk trilogy too, but when my friend told me about what Moffat was going through at the time of working on it, I couldn't bring myself to dislike the trilogy quite as much anymore. Choosing to end the story by defeating the monks with the power of motherly love... suddenly makes a lot more sense, doesn't it? ):

>>85733273
I only ever thought of what was happening as 'that's why he let all the shit in pyramid slide', I was so focused on that I never even thought about the ending to lie

>>85721817
You mean something like Missy turning Clara into a lesbo slave fic?

>>85733248
>up until human nature
I remember people still denying that McGann was a canon Doctor up until The Next Doctor had archival footage of him. Strange to think that people used to be so fervent about the telemovie being noncanonical.

>>85733358
With mind control powers that she also uses on the blonde girl from last christmas?

>>85733460
I remember this, it always annoyed me because I love 8.

>>85733248
Did people really think nine was originally the eigth doctor? I've never heard that. When the show premiered me and me and my friends always thought he was either a reboot doctor or the ninth. My reasoning came from the fact that we saw mccoy regenerate in the doctor who movie

>>85733309
There's probably a lot to unpack and reassess when watching the monk trilogy again with this extra context. In addition to the overall quality of the episodes suffering (at least, depending on who you ask), there'll no doubt be particular themes that make more sense knowing what sort of mental state Moffat might've been in at the time of working on the episodes.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/news/a834437/doctor-who-series-11-jodie-whittaker-2018/?utm_content=bufferdf0e3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=mainfacebookpost

>LATE 2018

FUCK

>>85733248
I remember people on message boards insisting that the eighth tv movie never happened because the BBC didn't have a direct hand in it.

Speaking of nine, what would a ninth doctor/master story be like?

>>85733563
People have been speculating Autumn 2018 for months. Not that surprising desu.

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What was yfw?

>>85733509
People got pretty butthurt over the half human line and disowned the movie. It was fucking stupid since it basically changed nothing about the show.

>>85733613
Hyped af that Big Finish was made canon

>>85733654
I like the half-human idea and was thrilled when Hell Bent entertained it seriously

>>85733563
Re-fuckin-lax anon. Chinballs just needs time to make the show his way and hasnt had a year to plan like moff did during the specials season. All this means is you get a whole season with christmas not having a 4 month gap and instead feeling like a real finale.

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So this is what you should do. Let the thread die. Just let this old thread gather dust.
No one will open it. No one'll even notice it. Let it become a strange little thing sitting at the bottom of the catalog.
And over the years, the board'll move on and the thread will be archived.
And if you want to remember it, then you can do one thing. That's all, one thing. Have a good new thread. Do that for me, Anon.
Have a fantastic new thread.

Now that they recast the first doctor for the christmas special, will we see things like this happen with multi-doctor stories? Could we see a recast fourth doctor and recast seventh meet eleven for example? Would the BBC dare to do a spinoff with Mcgann as eight?

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>>85733613

new thread >>85733765

>>85732970
9 actually uses The Moment.

>>85733723
christmas should not be the finale, it should be an addendum

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>>85732171

>>85733471
Yes.

>>85732970
honestly I wouldn't change it. Yeah, there are plenty of ways I would have done it differently, but the second we get "NO SIR, ALL THIRTEEN!" as well as the Curator scene just makes everything worth it to me. Pure fucking magic. Whenever I'm having a shitty day I just watch those scenes and automatically feel a little bit better, and for that I can never hate Moffat.

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>>85733613
>"I'm a doctor."
oh shit Eccelston?
>"but probably not the one you expect"
>my fucking face when

also "physician heal thyself" might be the most kino last words of any Doctor.