>Marvel films can't be kin- Civil War analysis time

>>85627258
Analyzed:

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ANOTHER MARVEL THREAD WOW! DC IS WINNING FUCK YOU MARVEL FANS HAHA SPIDERMAN HOMECOMING SUCKED! GUAURDIANS IS TRASH WE HAVE BEN AFFLECK AND JUSTICE LEAUGE HAHA

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>>85627258
Kino

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Can't be what? That word cutoff is shit

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>>85627258
overblown noisy junk that is ultimately empty of any genuine substance, like any shitty comic book

Civil War was such a disappointment. I think Winter Solder is the only MCU movie I legitimately enjoyed.

Civil War honestly wasn't bad at all, and the amount of quipping isn't THAT bad (still needs to be toned WAY down to like one or two lines per movie).

Guardians 2 was shit because it was ruined by goofiness. I was gonna say that there was only one bad scene (I shouldn't have to name it, but in case you're not completely confident what the worst scene was, it was objectively the Pacman fight scene which destroyed a genuinely well developed build up of conflict), but the mood of the movie is just too goofy compared to the first Guardians and the rest of the MCU. Baby Groot was just pure shilling and predictably became annoying way too fast and the lack of an actual plot was a risky move that failed in my personal opinion. There were good elements, but too much goofiness that took me out of the movie.

Have not seen Spiderman yet, but I'm not hyped at all about it after the Guardians 2 let down.

>>85627562
The Pac man scene was set up earlier though. It's not like it just came out of nowhere

>>85627562
>but the mood of the movie is just too goofy compared to the first Guardians

The first one ended with him distracting the big bad guy by a dance off.

>>85627633
Yeah I know that, but literally no amount of set up or preparing could have possibly justified that monstrosity. They took a genuine moment that's pretty damn rare in Marvel movies and they ruined it for a fucking joke and instead of laughing I'm fucking seething because of it.

>>85627258
why would you post a image that makes it look worse than the comic?

>>85627633
setup doesn't make something good

>>85627715
That was actually funny and believable though, and kind of makes you think if that tactic would actually work in real life (say if someone is shooting up a school so you pull down your pants and start dancing and singing like an idiot).

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>>85627258

>suits not tattered
>Iron Man and Cap wearing helmets
>dead guys not in foreground

incompetent topah/10

>>85627423

>far out shot of like 7 tiny guys rushing towards each other at a CGI abandoned airport straight out of Let's Explore The Airport With Buzzy the Knowledge Bug

>>85627633

Set up, yes. That doesn't mean you use it in the climactic fight.

CW gets a downgrade because the entirety of Tony's side is an idiot plot. It's the dumbest comic trope in existence. Real world politics have no place when there are beings that could literally decide to end the world when they want.

>>85627805
I didn't really find it funny; but it was absolutely in-character, which made it work for the scene.

>>85627258
a reminder that Tony was right and Steve was wrong

>>85627258

A thread died for this.

I hope all you people bumping this thread feel good about lowering the quality of our board.

>>85628462
>>85628462
This. First time you watch you side with Steve. Second time you watch you side with Tony.

>Iron Man can literally survive being hit by a tank
>suit breaks after a few hits from a shield

why didn't he just use The Hulkbuster?

>>85629046
Why didn't Zemo just email Tony the vid?

>>85628462
>>85628979
How in the fuck do you side with Tony? he did EVERYTHING wrong. All Cap did was hide a secret from him to protect his best friend

>>85629046
Hulkbuster would've broken too because Cap's shield is vibranium, aint gotta explain shit

>>85627258
Well you see they took a panel from the comic and then refused it under a completely different context in the movie.

>>85629096
>refuses to allow government oversight which would appease the masses and bring order to chaotic vigilante-ism
>happily worked for a corporation SHIELD which had the same power over the avengers but refuses to do same for government
>forgets that ultron was entirely and solely the avenger's fault
>claims that government agenda's change but oblivious to the concern of his own agenda being just as corruptable

Tony was right.

>>85627258
It was actually shit the way they passed the pillars just to have a better cut between two scenes.

They can't do good action without insane amount of cuts

>>85629386
I don't even remember the plot

>>85627562
GotG2 is the definition of filler.

>>85628462
>Tony and the government cause every problem ever
>Tony and the government insist everyone needs to be held accountable for their fuckups
>Based Cap tells them to fuck off
Tony couldn't be more WRONG

>>85627805
Why would ronin give a shit about memelord dancing when all he had to do was hit the ground with the staff? He went through all that why would he care? I know people will say "gee get a sense of humor" but why? It didn't seem believable at all to me.

>>85629091
Why didn't Stark just fly the ring to Mordor?

>>85629096

Cap's main character flaw is that he lets his status as a paragon of justice and virtue go to his head and he constantly thinks he knows what's best for everyone else. It's why he makes no effort to negotiate with Ross or work with Tony to make changes in the legislation because HE doesn't trust the government. HE doesn't think Tony can hand the truth about his parents. HE thinks it's objectively wrong to keep Wanda on temporary house arrest, therefore, Tony is not worth negotiating with.

Tony is all about atonement for past mistakes and taking responsibility. He cares more about the little people than MCU Cap ever did or could. Cap sees themselves as super heroes that always do the right thing that can't be beholden to anyone but themselves, but even the biggest ego on the team learned to dial it back and when to put a leash on everyone.

>>85629368
He wasn't exactly happy working for SHIELD.
And Ultron was Stark's fault.
Stark is the one who needs oversight.

>>85627258
I wonder, will I have to filter "kin-" or do you think this is going to be a one-time thing?

>>85630095
I'd filter kino and every variation, personally

>>85630080
what about when steve took a rookie to go stop some mercs outside of their non existent jurisdiction and got people killed thats not irresponsible

>>85630067
>HE doesn't trust the government
Well the government was secretly controlled by Hydra and tried to kill like 50% of the population.
>HE doesn't think Tony can hand the truth about his parents
Tony couldn't

>>85630080
>it was Stark's fault that he saw visions of his friends dying from aliens
it was Wanda's fault who is friends with Steve so Steve was wrong

>>85630080
>Ultron was Stark's fault
Hardly, and he got it right the second time with Vision anyways. AoU strongly implies that Ultron basically created himself

>>85630067
>HE doesn't trust the government. HE doesn't think Tony can hand the truth about his parents.
Of course he couldn't trust the government after Winter Soldier, and he was right about Tony not being able to accept the death of his parents

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>no giga-nigger funeral scene

I am convinced they will look back at the MCU as the greatest art humans have made. There is no way it can be perfected. Infinity War is going to blow everyones minds

>>85630181
He isn't going to see your comment you idiot

>>85630746
He setup an automated program to try to ram an unknown alien artificial intelligence into a robot.

He wasn't physically present when it succeeded and he doesn't know exactly how it happened, but he was definitely responsible.

>>85630851
why is everyone ignoring Banner? He made Ultron too

>>85630851
He was doing the right thing though, since earth was still at risk and vision is necessary to defend it. Ultron was just an aberration

>>85630067
>HE doesn't trust the government.
The government almost holocausted have the population just years prior
>HE doesn't think Tony can hand the truth about his parents.
Tony chimps out as soon as he finds out and needs his neck almost broken before he comes to his senses
>HE thinks it's objectively wrong to keep Wanda on temporary house arrest
It was objectively wrong. Wanda wasn't going to start obliterating offices if she was to roam outside.

>>85630612
>>85630763

Tony didn't fly off the handle just because Bucky killed his parents, Steve also lied to him about it.

>>85631005
half* not have jesus christ

>>85630815
kek

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>>85627258
I just blew a huge sloppy load jacking off to cuck porn.

>>85631027
>Steve also lied
so much this, he knows that Bucky killed Tony's parent prior to Civil War and he didn't even bother to tell Tony about it

>>85630067
Tony was right on pragmatic grounds. His approach was the least shitty path for the team.

The only option for them was signing up to the Accords (meaning Wanda and Vision would effectively both be retired as the UN would likely veto Cap using them in any mission).

Only Cap, Natasha, and Sam would be deployed on most missions.

>>85631126
Bucky and Steve basically destroyed both Tony's biological family and his surrogate family.

>>85631287
don't forget that Howard did his best to find Steve and revive him and basically saved his life while Steve didn't bother to tell Tony about the real reason why Tony's parents died.

>>85628780
>a bbc thread died for this

cuck is mad.

>>85627324
fpbp