APE KINO STRONG

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>>85612596

>Movie about talking apes
>better than every capeshit movie so far

Disney is making some easy money with their capeshit

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>>85612851
DELETE THIS

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Rocket best ape

tfw a fucking chimpnazee was the most sympathetic and three dimensional character in Hollywood movies in the last decade

>>85612851
>One Meme Man

>>85613472

Loved his progression from bully, victim, to hero

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>peep the IMDB page
>a million 1/10 ratings on the movie
>"the title is misleading, there's no war or action in this movie!"

Normies are such fucking plebs.

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>>85613472
Winter confirmed for worst ape. Filthy donkey.

>>85613472
Rocket was /our ape/, so glad he didn't die.

>>85613564
I mean, I loved the movie, but looking back at it, there really was no "war". It was a single battle, and a pretty fucking small one at that. And even though it didn't bother me at the time, the avalanche was pretty Deus ex Machina.

>>85612596
It was good but had nowhere near the depth and complexity that Dawn had. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was a perfect way to deliver the message of the series, having good humans and bad humans, good apes and bad apes. In War, all apes are innocent saints who literally dindu nuffin, while all humans are war-mongering shitheads who want to torture and kill everything.

>>85612596
MORE LIKE APE SHIT
HAHAHAHA

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WHY DID NORMIES FUCKING HATE IT?!?

>>85612596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXkpCGwN31Y

BLACK
LIVES
MATTER

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>>85613472
>Rocket was best Ape
Bitch please, every ape in the OP is the best ape in the movie

My fav is Maurice bro
>>85613649
>the avalanche was pretty Deus ex Machina.
Yeah, it kinda was. I mean, it makes sense, ''big noises causes big avalanches'', but I'm surprised it came down when the humans started to scream, not when they were bombarding the living shit out of that camp. Still, absolutely excellent movie, top tier Kino

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>APES. TOGETHER. STRONG.
How did they get away with this?

>>85613741
you cant just pump out the same movie every 2 years and expect people to watch it

>>85613651
>Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was a perfect way to deliver the message of the series, having good humans and bad humans, good apes and bad apes.
War also had good humans and bad apes, but it simply lacked of them/the director chose not to show them

Take for instance a quote I remember from the movie, ''Then how do you explain him? [refering to the gorilla] We got 10 of those apes at our service, how do you explain that?''. I saw atleast 3 ''donkeys'', such a shame that they didn't show the rest of them in action
>>85613932
yes you can, we call those movies ''capeshit''

>>85613515
Le "one meme man" meme ;)

>>85613638
I was so scared when he went and surrendered to the camp

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>>85613932
>you cant just pump out the same movie every 2 years and expect people to watch it

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>>85613688
>capeshit is still capeshit
>apeshit turned to apekino

>>85613759
Maurice is literally rebit: the monkey

>>85613450

CG has aged horribly

>>85613759
haven't seen the new one yet, does he speak more now?

>>85614361
t. asshurt koba-follower

>>85613759
>big noises causes big avalanches

>noises

It was the force of all the explosions

>>85614439
dawn still looks pretty good

rise never did

>>85614265
>not monkino
You had one job

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>>85614471
>haven't seen the new one yet, does he speak more now?
Not like Caesar or Koba, or even Bad Ape
But he does speak one word, and a sentence

Fucking watch it Anon, what the fuck are you waiting for?

>>85614814
weekends been busy as fuck, but I'm seeing it tomorrow

>>85614970
Refrain yourself from watching this thread or anything similar, and don't watch any of the movie clips online

Just go on, watch it, and come back

>>85615075
thanks, I don't even remember seeing the trailer, so I got that covered

don't think I will be too surprised at the end though, I mean it is pretty much a prequel trilogy for the old franchise (complete with Heston references in Rise), right?

>>85615229
>don't think I will be too surprised at the end though, I mean it is pretty much a prequel trilogy for the old franchise (complete with Heston references in Rise), right?
Come on, by now you know how the story ends, its the journey what matters the most

So yeah, War is as great as Dawn, watch it my man

>>85615293
will do, anon.

trust.

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>Starring Punished Caesar
>Revolver Maurice
>Rocket Kazhira
>featuring Nova Quiet
>Guest starring The Remains of the US Military Forces

The Phantom Pain of The Planet of the Apes
Bravo

>>85612596
Facebook-Maurice
Reddit-Caesar
Something Awful-Luca
4chan-Rocket.

>>85615955
Bad Ape is Otacon as a chimp.

>>85616078
>Caesar
>Maurice
>Luca
>Bad

Found the Koba follower!

>>85616148

Holy kek, it even sounds like him

>>85612596
>humans use nonsensical human wave attacks with M4s spraying full auto
>OH GOD THEY'RE THROWING SPEARS WHAT THE FUCK DO WE DO ALL WE HAVE ARE MACHINE GUNS
>colonel using apes as slave labor to build a retarded wooden wall not to defend against a swarm of monkeys but another 21st century military with tanks, artillery and fucking helicopters
>called "War" but it's a poor innocent apes prison break movie
Fucking stupid

>>85613569

fucking traitor piece of shit

>>85613741
There was a reason the first 2 made a shit load of money
action

>>85613741
>called War for the Planet of the Apes
>trailers show almost nothing but battle scenes
>promo images show soldiers facing off against hordes of apes
>actual movie is Caeser teaming up with reddit monkey to spend 2 hours being oppressed by the evil white colonel until they dramatically escape because the guard with the keys goes into the cage full of apes to find out who poo poo pee pee
I wish it did worse

>>85612596
>shits into hand
>tosses feces
>capable of overthrowing humanity
Nope, immersion ruined.

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>mfw ghost Koba

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>>85616274
>>85616427
>he fell for the hype train
It's your own fault for hyping something

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>>85616538

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>>85616538
''Join...me''

>"war"
>it's actually two different battles for two different bunkers between three different factions
>and a commando raid

>>85613564
>>85613649
>>85616274
>>85617029
reminder that the studio forced "War" into the title, Matt Reeves wanted to simply call the third one "Planet Of the Apes", as to signify things coming full circle or some shit

>>85613504
tfw a fucking bonobo was the best villain in Hollywood movies in the last decade

>>85617527

>koba
>villain

Koba do no wrong. Caesar betray ape. Caesar love human more than ape. Caesar weak.

>>85617403
Planet of the Apes should be reserved for the fourth movie

When Marky Mark lands on Earth

>>85617658
koba make ape kill ape and start war - koba just as bad as human.

>>85617658
I agree with you, Koba was right and did nothing wrong

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>>85617658
>Caesar
>Weak
>When Koba couldn't do shit without a gun
Koba weaker

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>mfw movie wants me to believe literally every human on the planet gathered to attack the Colonel
>they all wear the exact same white clothes and goggles
>they win the battle and decide to charge into the fortress screaming like they are in a medieval battle or some shit
>an avalanche is caused by them yelling, but not the huge fucking artillery strike before
>The entirety of mankind is supposedly wiped out in this one avalanche, there are no survivors or women/children who did not participate in the battle

>>85614361
Of course you would know what's Reddit. Go back

>>85616148
oh shit you're right, they even sound the same.

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>>85616538

>>85614683
>burger education
They're apes you mong

>>85613472
>Brocket
Truly best ape.

>>85612596
BORE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES

>>85612596
This movie sucked and was unironically the worst of the trilogy

>>85617658
Me agree. Only thing Koba did wrong was order suicidal attack on stinky humans. Too many apes died.

>>85618026
>>mfw movie wants me to believe literally every human on the planet gathered to attack the Colonel
Except it didn't. They just said ''more soldiers from the north'', not ''all of mankind''
Besides, the rest of humans are either surviving on other parts around the globe or slowly turning into primitives
>>they all wear the exact same white clothes and goggles
They're soldies in the snow, what did you expect?
>>they win the battle and decide to charge into the fortress screaming like they are in a medieval battle or some shit
>>an avalanche is caused by them yelling, but not the huge fucking artillery strike before
I agree on this one. Maybe it was that big of a fucking mountain, but the avalanche was convenient as hell
>>The entirety of mankind is supposedly wiped out in this one avalanche, there are no survivors or women/children who did not participate in the battle
There's still a virus out there, turning humans into primitives. Did you not pay attention?

>>85613569
Glad that Cesar strangled his was to death.

>>85614439
CGI tends to do that. But the apes in War look fucking amazing. But in a few years they will probably look like shit.

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>wahhh where's all my edgy war and call of duty scenes?
Who knew /tv/ was infested with so many plebs and normies?

Caesar should have just killed the colonel, fuck that guy. But then maybe that would have been giving him what he wanted.

>>85614361
How is it possible to have such shit taste?

>>85618168
>>85618196
Sup brainlets!

>>85613569
>Apes together strong
>Decides to fuck off with the humans and divide apes
Fucking albinos, when will they learn?

>>85613741
$150 budget

what the god damn fuck how
I guess they didn't have to pay for a bunch of lead actors aside from Woody and I guess Andy Serkis, but I can't see either of them demanding huge salaries. Still, it's insane for a movie that revolves around entirely CGI characters looking photorealistic and filming almost entirely on location to only cost 150 million while there are movies that cost twice that and look like absolute garbage

>>85618375
Woody isn't even a huge star these days. I doubt he got more than 5 million for his role in the movie.

>>85617658
>>85618202
Fuck off, koba-posters

>>85618232
If there are more humans out there, then it's not a "Planet of Apes" yet and Caesar's apes are not safe. And the movie made it clear that humans didn't just spontaneously turn more primitive, they had to be infected with the mutated virus.

>>85618491
Apes follow Koba. Caesar dead. Caesar weak. Koba strong. Koba love apes. Apes love Koba.

>>85618545
Koba is manchild. Apes no like manchild. Apes divide. Koba weak. Caesar strong

>>85618593
Koba not manchild. Koba no man. Koba is ape. Maurice is manchild. Maurice touch self to cave drawings of Caesar.

>>85618689
>He says
>when Koba
>got mad
>at simple
>human work

>>85618745
HUMAN WORK?

>>85614439
nah it's just the compression of the image. I watched Dawn the other day and it still looks fucking amazing. Obviously War looks better but Dawn hasn't aged at all.

Rise has though, but they were still finding their footing with the ape cgi and plus it had a different director. Some directors are much better with CGI than others, and Reeves really knows how to use it. It's not a talent thing, since even the best directors like Spielberg haven't figured out how to use CGI right. Even Peter Jackson who arguably did more for CGI than James Cameron when he made the Lord of the Rings movies (Weta was his independent visual effects house and they literally invented new ways to create CGI for armies and Gollum with a $90 million budget per film) lost his way and went too far with The Hobbit. Although, part of that is the fault of WB giving him no prep time and forcing him to turn 2 movies into 3 halfway through production.

I'm still mad that he got all of the blame for that when it was all Warner Bros fault. 4 years of pre-production on Lord of the Rings compared to like 6 months on The Hobbit? And then in the middle of shooting forcing Jackson to change two films into three?
>watching the Appendices for The Hobbit
>Jackson is fit, young, and healthy looking at the start of production
>WB threatens to hire Bret Ratner to direct them after Del Taco leaves, basically forcing Jackson to direct the movies instead of writing/producing
>They don't give him any more time to work on pre-production
>Literally is hospitalized for an ulcer due to stress, has to keep working from his hospital bad
>A year later he's back to being obese after losing the weight and unJUSTing his shit for years
>Hair goes from being almost all black to completely gray, borderline white
>The movies are hated and everyone blames him

reee

>>85618272
c-cute

>>85614683
Find one single frame of any of these three movies with a monkey in it

What was the most kino scene of the trilogy?

APES
DO NOT WANT
WAR

dogfucker hates the ape movies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GclmFIjvDlU

>>85618879
it's ok, Pete, we don't blame you.

(except for King Kabortiong, but it doesn't matter anymore)

>>85619060
>NOOOOOOO

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>>85619060

>"NO"

>>85617658
KOBA KILL ASH

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>>85617776
they already have the perfect actor to play Richard Taylor

>Fall of the Planet of the Apes
full circle

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>>85619060
>Trust.

>>85618375
>entirely CGI characters looking photorealistic and filming almost entirely on location
If I had to guess:
Apes movies have an in-house effects team, the production is directly tied to the cgi.
Capeshit send their effects out to everyone they can, so you get shitty inconsistent products (Rogue One, Age of Ultron) with inflated budgets

>>85618440
I could see him just wanting to be in a movie with a bunch of monkeys if they paid him in weed and let him smoke on set

desu I'd be the same, being able to hang out with Andy Serkis while he pretends to be a monkey would be an absolute dream

dude we actually need to dumb down ourselves in order to get peaceful with animals (niggers)

Dawn was way better and even that had plenty of flaws

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>>85619060
final shot of Dawn with Caesar standing before the apes with that slow close-up on his eyes mirroring the opening shot of the movie. Unironically kino to the highest degree

>mfw Dawn lost best visual effects at the Oscars to fucking Interstellar

>>85619060
>Rise
NOO!
>Dawn
APES DO NOT WANT WAR
APES TOGETHER STRONG
Ape not kill ape
Trust
>War
Ape not kill ape
Join me
The cherry blossom tree
Anything that involved Maurice and the girl
Apes together strong

I think the kino in Dawn was in the cinematography, while War was all about that simbolism (wich tends to be bad, but it worked for LOGAN, and so with War)

felt like a cash in after Dawn, huge step down, one trillion plot holes and convenient plot devices, there's no war, the jar jar ape was EVEN WORSE than I thought it would be, 80% is boring Caesar fucking around or being in the camp

>>85619428
>The cherry blossom tree
That was horribly forced, it happens out of nowhere with zero prior interaction and then the expected result is basically the scene after that. I wanted to like it and I couldn't

>>85613504
>>85617527
If youre going to shill your piece of shit propoganda films on this site atleast have the decency to learn how to do it properly

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>>85619663
>That was horribly forced
Oh come on, would you not give this cutie pie a flower to tell her ''hush now my child, not everything is fucked'' without saying a word?

>>85619771
why in the fuck would caesers bodyguard general strongman decide to give a human kid a flower

the kid was cute as fuck but come on now

>>85613932
>you cant just pump out the same movie every 2 years and expect people to watch it
What did he mean by this?

>>85619842
>why in the fuck would caesers bodyguard general strongman decide to give a human kid a flower
Trust
I mean, outside in the real world, people do random shit at random times to cheer other people up. I dunno why you think it's a bad thing when it happens in the movie

RIP Luca ;_;7

>Caesar's mom is killed right after he's born
>grows up confused about his place in the world, not fitting in with humans or apes
>gets taken away from his family
>sent to a strange place where he's bullied and abused
>accidentally kills someone
>his human family eventually all die
>ones of his closest friends/allies tries to kill him in a coup
>forced to wage a war he never wanted
>wife and oldest son are murdered
>accidentally kills someone (again)
>one of his old friends dies
>youngest son and all the other apes are captured and enslaved
>gets imprisoned and tortured
>shot by the person he earlier showed mercy to
>eventually dies of the wound, leaving behind his young child

Caesar had a hard life

>>85619428
NOO was fantastic because it happened right after a shitty eye-roll worthy inclusion of "Get your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape" and then they instantly redeemed the whole thing.

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>>85620018

>"at least this time...I was able to protect you"

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>>85619379

>that opening kino shot with zoom out

holy fucking shit, i hope Reeves will do something like that with Batman

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>>85620123
>>85620194
>''Apes are strong...with, or without me''

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>>85619144

>"GO"

>>85620350
>Opening shot is Bruce Wayne's eyes
>Closing shot is Batman's

K I N O I R

>>85620350
>2014 summer movie scene
>monolith theme from 2001: ASO starts playing

didn't Godzilla and this came out in the same month, even?

>In October 2016, it was announced that a fourth Planet of the Apes film is being planned

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>>85620820
>Planet of The Apes without Caesar
Nope, I am not looking foward to this

>>85620820
I'm glad there's more monkino to look forward to

>>85621105
they're not monkeys, karl, play a record.

>>85619182
the next one will be called Civil War for the Planet of the Apes where gorillas and chimps fight against each other

>>85620613
They were filmed in the same location. And I think Serkis even did the mocap for Godzilla. With how little Godzilla was in the movie, it shouldn't have hurt his schedule

>>85618528
There were loads of humans in the original planet of the apes you fucking mong, they're just all slowly going primitive

>>85619428
You forgot "Is there anything left of you to save?

We already got that with Dawn.
>>85621473
If they want to tie the final thread to the originals, the next movie should be about the de-evolution of humans into the pets, ferals, radioactive mutants, and sex slaves they eventually become. If they were wise they might also try to incorporate the astronauts too; basicalöy make a rehash of the original.
Lets be honest, though. They're gonna milk this for as long as they can. Probably gonna try to remake the wheel entirely.

>>85621806
I wouldn't mind that too much desu, I have confidence in them after this trilogy. This universe has a lot of potential.

>>85622035
>This universe has a lot of potential
God yes, I can already taste a /qst/ thread when you play as an ape after the events in Dawn

>>85622035 >>85621806
I just realised that this actually might not connect to the original movies at all. In the originals Mankind was wiped out by nuclear war. In Reeves it's a created virus.
As stated before Nova in the originals was a mating experiment and that's all. It would be beyond messed up for these movies to do that seeing as her role was expanded, and especially since she was a heartstring-pull, child character. I mean unless the human loving apes all die, you probably won't see human abuse.

Then again, maybe the universe just reset itself like it always does in these movies.

>>85620899
Caesar was good but we need the best Ape back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlmzUEQxOvA

>>85613741
They can't appreciate true monkino

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>>85622850
APEKINO

>>85613741
Holy shit, capeshit normies deserve ps2 cgi and cheap quips after all, they want trash so let them eat trash.

>>85620899
They will probably jump the series a few decades into the future. It will probably look and feel more like the original movie.

>>85613741
War was compelling and dramatic instead of fast paced crap full of explosions. Look at all the people complaining about how it didn't have enough action or was too slow.

>>85622785
shes not the original nova. it was just a reference to the original like how also the alpha/omega symbol was a reference to Beneath and cornilius was also a reference

>>85623647
>she's not the original nova
>cornellius is a reference
I hope so. I'll have to look it up later. Odd that Cornellius would be a reference. Iirc in Escape Cornellius and Zira give birth TO Caesar. I'd been assuming the female ape in Rise was supposed to be Zira since they both get shot and leave Caesar orphaned.
>tfw still don't know if these movies are prequels, reboots, or remakes.

>>85624131
They're reboots. Wouldn't be surprised if Caesar's son Cornelius end up being dr Cornelius remaked.

>>85618528
In the original 1968 film series, we only see a single settlement of Apes where New York City used to be that had seemingly little contact with any other ape populations. Humans were also not extinct, and in fact were so numerous as to be considered a pest to the Apes.

Good movie until Deus Ex Machina avalanche wipes out human army.

I was expecting them to find the colonel's body, all get infected, and slowly turn feral to let apes rule over them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3r8DKR_Wd0

tfw

>>85619727
Who's a better movie protagonist than Caesar from the past 10 years?

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>post yfw I don't fear you

>>85624846
https://youtu.be/y8OyilvVzzU
Personal favorite for me. Felt like it added so much tension to that scene.

>>85621539
I didn't say there were no humans left in the world, I said that by the end of "War" there are still many humans who are not infected with the virus and are still capable of killing the apes, yet the movie seemingly ends with the apes in a paradise as owners of the world.

>>85624271
Did anyone here read the book?

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>>85624846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSnildgG5Ts

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>>85624846
>>85625532
>>85625621

>>85625621
This piece was so beautiful and memorable in the cinema
One of the most beautiful music I've ever heard

Since the apes have retard nova does that mean they could use her as a biological weapon when dealing with human camps by sneaking their weapon in the camp like they did to the colonel and infecting everyone?

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>>85626216
>Hans Zimmer will win the award, but this godlike OST won't

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
Oscar likes Zimmer more than KINO

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>>85612596
I saw War two nights ago and loved it but am I crazy for thinking Dawn is still the peak of the trilogy?

Reeves still did an incredible job with War, but something about Dawn to me its a near perfect film.

How many movies until they do the space ship crash to earth from the original?

>>85626793
>but am I crazy for thinking Dawn is still the peak of the trilogy?
To each his own, anon

It's a damn fine trilogy. Rise had a very strong story, Dawn and War on the other hand are absolute KINO (I liked War more than Dawn, but mostly for the simbolism)

>>85626973
I guess I got to caught up in the pacing of the film with War, it felt a bit weird at times like how the gorilla ( blanking on his name) gave Nova the flower and only 2 scenes later he dies and she has this emotional breakdown as if they had been on a long journey together and grew close

little things like that took me out of it but I loved everything else about the film.

If War doesn't get the Oscar for best visual effects all is lost

>>85614361
Koba please go

>>85627194
What other movie can even compete against it?

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>>85618793
Koba.Eat.Ass

>>85625261

The idea of the donkey apes was so great. The remnants of a human hating army that is forced to work with the humans to survive. Anytime someone becomes their own antithesis it's full on pottery.

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>survive deadly mass plague
>endure in post-apocalyptic world
>go fight a group of your few remaining fellow humans because they're crazy
>more dead humans
>finally win
>lol avalanche

So the 'Military remnants' are just a throwaway plot tool that are discarded as soon as they're no longer useful, and the tragic nature of their demise is brushed over.

>>85627547
Gotta shove in that parting of the Red Sea analog in your movie that's just Exodus with monkeys

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>>85627577
>monkeys

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Was it ape?

>>85624846
>>85625532
>>85625621
>>85626216
>>85626748

Giacchino has been busy as fuck scoring films this year and last year), but despite that it's clear that he put a lot of effort into the score for War. It might be his finest film score to date imo.

>>85627616
Monkeys apes I don't give a fuck. I use them interchangeably because I'm a dumb motherfuck who cares about that sort of shit as much as I care about my last shit. I just know religious allegories when I see them

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>Caesar lets that guy go
>"hope you don't regret sparing his life, he's a good shot."

>he ends up delivering the shot that kills Caesar

>>85627048
>it felt a bit weird at times like how the gorilla ( blanking on his name) gave Nova the flower and only 2 scenes later he dies and she has this emotional breakdown as if they had been on a long journey together and grew close
Yeah, Luca totally deserved more screentime to make it a worthy one-off character. For me it was quite tragic that we didn't get to see more of him, just a guy who gave his life protecting Caesar

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>>85627709
Rustled my fucking jimmies

Rocket is the real MVP

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>>85627709
>Caesar is pissed as fuck and ready to fucking murder the shit out of the Colonel
>He arrives and the Colonel is a hung over piece of shit infected by the very virus he sold his humanity to destroy who isn't worth killing
>That single gunshot after Caesar leaves the room

Everything in Dawn and War felt smaller than it was intended to I think
Am I supposed to believe the entire remaining human population of mankind lives and works conveniently enough in the ruins of San Francisco and surrounding forests? If there are a few hundred immune people in SF then surely there must be more in other cities, across the country and the world.
Hell Woody had a fucking battalion and the rest of the military who attacked his evil ice base with trebuchets (???) had the equivalent of double that, but everyone acts like they're the last scraps of humanity. I don't get it.

>>85612596

Kek this movie is flopping (not even memeing). Looks like mah boi spidey humiliated this apeshit trash. Next to take care of that Nolan garbage Dunkirk.

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>>85625532
>when the music drowns out all of the sound when Caesar charges the colonel

This film was incredible

>>85627939
>this movie is flopping
>Looks like mah boi spidey humiliated this apeshit trash
>'Spider-Man: Homecoming' Suffers MCU's Worst Second-Weekend Drop Ever

B8 for apes

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>>85625621
>>85627627
Unlike his MCU scores I think if he does do The Batman's score with Reeves its going to be on par with his Apes work.

>No RLM kinoreview yet

>>85626793
Nah, Dawn is still the best.

>>85627626
That scene was so good, the sharp turn from lighthearted to chilling was amazing.

Why are you upset about the movie flopping?

SO EMOTIONAL

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>>85627903
I think it's supposed to feel like that since it's been years since the flu spread worldwide. Plus this trilogy is obviously meant to be the story of caesar who is what can be considered a first generation evolved ape. They have no need for tech so there is no way of knowing anything past San Francisco. That's why bad ape was introduces in War since it's meant to show just how little caesar knows outside of his tribe.

The "Bad Ape" comic relief moments were forced

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>>85628105
>That scene was so good, the sharp turn from lighthearted to chilling was amazing.

I was listening to Matt Reeves commentary and that scene originally in the script had Koba spitting the drink at them and them wiping their eyes to reveal Koba had the gun in his hand.

but on the day of shooting Toby Kebbell had the brilliant idea of still playing dumb when going to pick the gun up and then doing that sharp turn to gunning them down.

Toby said the idea came from his experience in pubs growing up how you'd meet guys that would be the nicest guys in the world and treat you like a good mate and suddenly beat the hell out of you

it was a great choice.

>>85628172
>One scene shows him running away from Caesar and shooting blindly at him
>The other scene he turns into a comic relief character
>The other scene he shows that he also suffered a loss, and is afraid of the world outside him

Significantly better than the average ''le dumb inocent character xD!'' we see very often in movies

>Rocket never said goodbye to Caesar

The ending scene triggered me, rocket shouldve been with them

>>85628070

Apes has a worse weekend drop mate. Spidey recovered with better weekdays and now has better weekend drops as Well. Apeshit is dead bury it. Next is Dunkirk and next the Oscars.

>>85628317
''My dad is better than yours''

YOU TAKE IT TOO PERSONAL

>>85619428
last scene between woody harrelson and caesar
last scene of war
when the apes gave caesar their leftover grain

>>85625621
holy shit this one was so good. it reminds me of some other piece from another movie but i cant think of it

>>85628307
>Rocket's son and best friend are murdered

;_;

>>85625533
Don't forget the 1960 Ape movie basically said humans ended up dropping nukes to try and wipe out the apes. We didn't see this happen yet.....but it's coming.

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>>85628160
>>85628160
I mean more for the humans than the apes, there are like 3 lines in War about huh maybe there are more intelligent apes out there somehow but the pockets of humanity wouldn't be totally isolated.
They all had vehicles and diseases don't destroy roads, if they had food to keep hundreds of people alive they could have gotten around the country in a week or two, even if SF was the very first reestablished human outpost you could send 3/4 groups out to a few other major population centres and hear back from them in a bit more than a month. The military in War have a legit communications network for fuck sake.
It just doesn't there make sense that there could be several thousand people in that general area over the course of like 3/4 years but seemingly, based on the way everyone acts, nobody or next to nobody else beyond.
Sorry for the wall of text but this shit confuses me

>>85628172
only the one where he looks through the binoculars the wrong way felt really out of place. the others ranged from good to fine

so did koba visit caesar two times or three? the jesus symbolism with demon/devil koba tempting caesar into falling and losing his goodness would work a lot better with three visits. although you can argue the third visit was when Caesar became koba at the end and almost killed the colonel

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>>85628260
>Bad Ape helps Caesar because he too lost a family

>>85628427
The last scene of War was pretty goofy.

>Maurice, we have won the War for the Planet of the Apes. I must now die because I was shot by the same man I showed mercy to, though somehow I still managed to make the trek from the base to this desert.

>>85627709
Caesar was too nice. In the end it was what cost him his life.

>>85628564
caesar managed to stay alive along enough to get the apes to a place where he felt they would be safe. as soon as he knew they were safe, he knew he would be able to die without their entire tribe collapsing. clear moses reference and although it was obvious it was very well done, especially with how well it was set up throughout the rest of the movie

if you didnt think caesar was going to die basically exactly like this since you heard they were making a third movie you might have a case of the dumbs

>>85628564
My friend said him surviving the whole trip was a bit dumb as well but I took it as He wouldn't die until he knew his people were safe.

might be unrealistic but its touching.

>>85628624
>>85628633
I get that it's a fitting him for him to see his apes finally free and safe before he finally ascends to meet James Franco in the great beyond, it just came off as a bit eh.

>>85628564
Loved the movie, but I agree with Caesar's death. It felt weak. He deserved a better death than what he got to finish his story.

>>85612951
capeshit, more like apeshit

>>85613472
luca tho ;__;

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>>85628624
>>85628736
>>85628758
I would have like it more if he makes it there safe. A simple cut and were are x amount of years in the future and Caesar is on his deathbed. He is telling his life story and we see the apes speaking more and wearing simple clothing. Then he dies peacefully in his bed.
Simple, Dignified, and earned.

>>85613472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNoeVgooT4&t=7s

Rocket's alpha as fuck

>>85613472
>Be head honcho of local Ape sanctuary
>Everyone dotes on you and tries to please you
>Punk ass chimp with pants on makes you give up command while everyone looks on. Also has a big ass pent up gorilla backing him up
>Makes you give cookies to everyone like some fucking butler
>Years later, get caught up in coup attempt and thrown in chimp jail by usurper
>Son is murder by said usurper for sticking to his convictions
>Be fucking bald
Being Rocket is utter suffering

>>85628758
>>85628875
it was staying in line with the caesar = moses/jesus. it fit perfectly. if you think it felt forced, welcome to fiction with symbolism

>>85620123
who'd he accidentally kill (again)? i forgot

>>85629120
Winter, the traitor albino gorilla.

>>85629206
i thought that neck snap was pretty intentional?

>>85626793
i'm kinda pissed at dawn because the "good" human did everything in his power to infringe on caesar's territory, took what he could get and asked for more, and basically brought war to them by bringing along assholes with guns

>>85628172
The whole cinema was in absolute hysterics everytime bad ape was on screen
Sorry that he didn't appeal to your cynical numale 4chanesque tastes of "humour"

>>85629221
to be honest, Caesar was about to deny mercy to his sensitive white ass when he went apeshit. At that moment, when Caesar silenced him, he just wanted him to shut the fuck up

>>85627903
it's a microcosm.

there are pockets of human survivors scattered throughout the world, and there are ape colonies that are getting smarter and smarter throughout the world.

nobody said the last standing military force on earth perished in that avalanche. nobody. but conflicts like it are playing out globally and when everything settles down, humans might not be extinct but they sure won't be the dominant species.

>>85628233
man Toby's a pretty good actor but underrated

it's a shame he keeps landing shit roles like in Fantastic Four

>>85628096
prediction: mike hates it, no romance not enough shlock

jay likes it for reasons he can't quite articulate

>>85629221
Pretty sure he strangled him. But it looked very intentional.

>>85629375
Yeah he was absolutely wasted in Kong Skull Island as well

I hope Reeves lands him a role in Batman or something he could play a great villain again.

will these movies have a happy ending?
humans go back in time and kill every ape?

>>85629389
they both liked Rise and Dawn

thinking they'll do a Dunkirk/Monkino review in the same video and do comparisons with the themes of war in bot movies

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>>85628002
That whole scene was the one with the most lasting impression for me right after LEAVE HIM.

>>85629513
why would that be a happy ending?

apes didn't make the simian flu.

apes didn't bring guns into the forest

apes didn't ambush the resistance leader and shoot his wife and son

>>85612596
is those shitty movies being shilled so hard here part of the jewish scheme?

next movie should have a jump some time into the future

>apes are starting a new proper civilization, with clothes, books, castes
>humans are the underclass. most are mute, some are not, but not complete savages like in 1968
>conflict centers around progressive apes wanting to give humans a decent treatment vs the more conservative, older apes (who were present during the war) wanting to exterminate the humans

>>85629513
Disgusting

>>85629604
Well this movie ended with a shot of the sky maybe the next movie will start with the rocket crashing from the sky

I keep seeing girls on Tumblr who want to fuck Caesar.

>>85613472

I really like his face. Not sure why.

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>>85629600
>complaining about apekino
>when half of the time the catalog is filled with star wars shit, game of bad acting thrones, MCU vs DCU, Disney shills and capeshit

Fucking watch them, they're pretty great. Dawn and War are the absolute pinnacle in movie making, known properly by /tv/ as KINO

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>>85629710

>>85629710
Ape dick small

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can't wait for a BR rip, some of the CGI shots in Dawn are unreal

>>85613651
Dawn also had more complexity in regards to inspirations and character motivation. Koba wasn't unjustified in his beliefs, and his slow turn from rival to villain to leader (and then the corruption of the morals Caesar inspired in them and Koba's eventual ruling through fear) was a cool nod to the USSR, Stalin and Lenin that fleshed out the dynamic of the ape faction, even if the humans were a bit basic.

WftPotA used a Vietnam War aesthetic and Heart of Darkness for inspiration and it just wasn't as complex. Caesar has a dark side, woah, deep, was about as complex as it got in terms of characters, and the apes turning away from Caesar due to a loss of hope was only present for about ten minutes of screen time. The main villainous apes are also just reacting out of fear, and The Colonel is a cardboard cut-out of a character who monologues about killing his own son and having a divine mission.

Plus the humour in WftPotA was included at some of the worst moments.

I haven't watched Rise in a while, but I think Rise and War are about on par, with Dawn just being a standout in what is probably the best trilogy of the 2010s

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>>85630001
This movie was something else.

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>>85629712
His face literally speaks for himself
>tfw Buck is dead
>tfw one of my best friends betrayed my bro
>tfw lost my son to him
>tfw no son
>tfw no gf
>tfw no Luca
>tfw got beat up by a donkey so I could save the life of my best bro
>tfw best bro died to the man he spared
>tfw no best bro Caesar
He's literally the Ape Wojak

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>>85630082
Listening to Reeves commentary about how this shot was created was a trip

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>yfw you realize you've seen Caesar grow from a baby, to a teenager, to a revolutionary, to a conflicted leader, to an ape looking to avenge his family, and finally into a legend

he has had an incredible arc (what other character in cinema recently has had this, let alone a CGI MONKEY), i'm glad War didn't pull any punches and ended his story

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>>85630082

>>85629604
In the first movie they show lots of articles and news reports about sending astronauts into space for some mission, they're either using it as a link to the original or setting up for a future movie

>>85618375
This movie literally cost less than RDJs salary for Infinity War alone.

That last countryside shot looked similar to the fake sunset wall from the cage in Rise

>>85619182
>fourth film called Planet of the Apes
>basically tells the same story as the original but from the Apes' perspective

Imagine being fucking Maurice or any of the surviving apes in 20-30 years time, being old as shit, having survived so much persecution from humans, seeing them finally become a non-threat, and then an immune one appears that still has all his faculties. All the younger apes would immediately want to start exterminations because their parents died in the wars, but Maurice would know that many humans are compassionate and didn't deserve their fate.

Cue ape civil conflict and political drama.

And yes, The Fass is the man for the job

>>85630437
Fassbender is a crap actor

Why are humans attacking other humans in the first place? Shouldn't they band together to fight the apes?

one things for sure, no one expected these movies let alone an ape trilogy to be this good, honestly this trilogy has cemented itself superior to its original which is really rare in Hollywood

>>85630647
>let's kill apes to ensure the survival of our species
>BUT MUH ANIMAL RIGHTS
>let's also kill humans who have the virus
>BUT MUH HUMAN RIGHTS

You really think humans would cooperate in the most basic stuff without violence?

>>85630180
>astronauts come to Earth, cue 1968 film, but they lose the faculty to speak and think due to the virus
>Fassbender pounds the sand like Heston in the 1968 ending, but he's mute.

>>85630647
cause were donuts

>>85630910
>>Fassbender pounds the sand like Heston in the 1968 ending, but he's mute.
>As he tries to scream, he starts coughing blood, while releasing violent and incomprehensible words
>As he tries to remain calm, he trembles in anger, unable to let go all of his hatred, so he slowly looks from the bloodfilled sand to the statue
>The camera zooms in right as he lifts his head, giving a clear shot to the anger in his eyes
It writes for itself

>>85630128
Any I can listen to the commentaries?

>>85631593
*Anywhere

>>85631593
I found this guys Tumblr: http://thedirectorscommentary.tumblr.com/post/159039886200/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-2014-commentary

downloaded it and changed it to the same name as my Torrent of Dawn of the Apes and made it the audio track that plays along with the movie.

>>85630128
what was a trip about that shot?

>>85631729
Just how it was stitched all together and the level of precision Reeves had in making it exactly how he wanted.

it took WETA 9 months for that one shot to be exactly how Reeves wanted it.

there was something like 1003 passes of it before he came to the one he used in the film.

>>85631769
god damn, didn't know that level of effort was involved

it works too, damn good shot

>>85631634
thanks anon

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> tfw this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKE1qLDvCiI

>>85614439
not really. Dawn still looks great and, honestly, War is going to win awards for it's CGI, it's the best I've seen in 10 years, maybe ever.

>>85613906
Underrated.

>>85615955
great post. Don't forget Big Koba, operating behind the scenes.

>>85616274
Yeah, the wall bit was the only really "stupid" part of the movie. Although maybe you could say the Colonol already had the new virus and was deteriorating mentally at that point. But if he got the mutation from Nova then that wouldn't make sense.

>>85617658
Koba not ape.

>>85628564
>gets wounded severely enough to make him collapse in a snow place
>montage of travelling to the fucking desert
>finally succumbs to his wounds after travelling what must have been days, more realistically weeks
>Maurice seems surprised that Caesar is injured after all that time travelling

War had a bunch of really, really out of place inconsistencies, like how Caesar and his A Team followed the soldiers along the beach, completely exposed, and didn't get seen, and the aforementioned avalanche that didn't happen during a firefight full of explosions, but was caused by chanting (and the soldiers stationed at the base did a morning fucking warcry too, now that I think about it)

Also it's dumb as fuck of me to get halfway through this film before realising it but apes are substantially heavier than humans and I imagine horses wouldn't be able to deal with that I just googled it and the only real issue would be with gorillas, who are about 20lb over the recommended load for an average sized horse, so I guess that's not too bad

>>85632054
>War is going to win awards for it's CGI, it's the best I've seen in 10 years, maybe ever.
Yeah, there's also the fact that Valerian, an Avatar wanna be, might win the award over this

Dawn lost the visuals award to FUCKING INTERSTELLAR, I wouldn't be surprised if similar bullshit happens this year
The Oscars were a mistake

>>85632247
>but apes are substantially heavier than humans and I imagine horses wouldn't be able to deal with that
the horses were CGI too

>>85630705
I said it as soon as I left the theater. People will look back on this trilogy as a highly underrated gem amongst the sea of shit produced these days. Like, in 8 years when Star Wars Episode 12 is coming out, Jill Bond, Ultimate Avengers 2, etc. People will remember this trilogy then.

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>>85632015
>tfw the scene in Rise where Caesar hugs Charles after going apeshit on the neighbor
>tfw the scene where he and Will get separated
>tfw the scene where Will goes to visit him but has to leave him behind
>tfw the scene where Caesar can finally go home but chooses not to for the other apes' sake

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>>85632385
>People will look back on this trilogy as a highly underrated gem amongst the sea of shit produced these days. Like, in 8 years when Star Wars Episode 12 is coming out, Jill Bond, Ultimate Avengers 2, etc. People will remember this trilogy then.
Since /mlp/ almost predicted when their movie and 8th season would come out, I will screencap this post, hoping that what you say might end up being false, and that everyone praises this franchise as much as I did

But boy, imagine telling your children about the greatest trilogy of the 21st century, your century

>>85632304
The effects in Interstellar were pretty good though.

>>85632740
I mean, Nolan outdid himself with the ''little to no CGI'' rule, but Dawn was ten times better and superior

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>Ape-posting is a thing now
/tv/ is strong
with or without memes

>>85630162
Honestly? Harry Potter. Or maybe Boyhood but I have yet to see that.

>>85632385
These movies were okay at best. The last one was stupid as fuck, but some scenes were absolute kino

>>85628846
One of my favorite moments in Dawn is when Caesar sends Koba to follow the humans and Caesar has to hold Luca back. I don't know why, but I really loved that moment.

I saw a trailer for the movie and it looked so fucking stupids, apes' somehow taking over the world? Retarded.

>>85612596

Can we agree that Caesar was the bad guy all along and that koba was the good guy

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>>85633719
oookayy

>>85633765
There is no bad guy. Just apes and humans trying to survive

>>85633765
>>85633816
And Martyrs. Lots and lots of Martyrs.

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>You're stronger than us. Smart as hell. You WILL replace us eventually. You call that mercy?

Reminder that he did literally NOTHING wrong

>>85613472
Rocket is truly the missing link between apes and bros.

>>85628875
Good Wyeth anon

>>85621473
Nope, the next apekino will be about Ceasar's son's quest to collect seven mysterious fossilized simian poo poo

>>85613741
Instead of getting an well thought out apekino like dawn. We literaly got a holocaust movie where moses...I mean Ceaser leads the jews...I mean apes to the promise land. Also they could of not kill Ceaser off in an more less impressive way, I wanted to feel sad but I did not feel a thing. Also the virus evolving was fucking lazy and stupid way of people loosing the ability to speak. Instead of getting a sypathtic villain like Coba we getting le evil, white, monologing, quiping, nazi metaphor Woody Harrelson

>>85630162
Literally Nolan's Batman. Not exactly the same arc, but in terms of a full lifelong narrative it's the same. (Sure he doesn't die, but he's got white sideburns and he's settled the fuck down his story's over).

>>85633719
nice b8 you damn dirty ape m8

>>85613564
But you are a normie for enjoying it

>>85634177
thats the best part about these movies, the "antagonists" all have rational and reasonable motivations for their actions

>>85612596
Dawn had a great trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_9-3Fj3ZdI

>>85612596
Dropped off in the 3rd act i struggled to stay away

>thing happen
>oooh oooh ahhh ahhh muhnigga x100
>Caesar stars into the camera for a long time
>Maurice is the voice of reason
>rinse and repeat for 2 hours
meh

The visuals and acting on the apes was fantastic but the human side kinda sucked and the movie felt a little too long.

It was still a 8/10.

>>85620820
fuck yeah im down, this series is consistently fucking great.

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>>85624846
god the soundtrack was great.

>>85628233
Seeing that sequence in the trailer for Dawn was what made me want to see these movies in the first place.

It's so fucking brilliant.

>>85638918
This,especially since the Colnel would have definitely killed Ceasar when he arrived.

guys ive never watch any of these movies. is it worth a download?

>>85613746
https://youtu.be/7lX7Fg6zYZE

>>85639684
They're all great desu senpai

>>85613472
Yes, I was worried that he was going to die but he was there like a rock as always. You're a legend Rocket.

Can't decide if I like this or dawn better. What do you guys think?

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>>85634538
fucking kek

>>85640128
This movie was shit and so was Dawn in hindsight.

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>>85627349
Star Wars, bruv.

>>85639639
Yeah it was really contrived.

Also the stupid ending where the avalanche just flat out kills an entire army

>implying they wouldnt have heard it and seen it coming
It came up on them all way too quick

Fine movie with a nice score up until that point tho.

https://youtu.be/7j-vHSfkI98

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Caesar had a hard life, but Nova's will be perplexing for her. Weaker by far than everyone around her, and no more intelligent. Can't find a mate. Remembers being able to speak, but no longer able to. Will bring most human survivors down to her level if she comes into contact with them. She will never know what it's like to live with her own kind.

>>85640632
;_;

>>85640632
RAPED

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>>85632468
>Caesar is home

>>85639712
What's wrong with Whoopis voice?

>>85640632
Humans that survive the virus are evolved beyond a need for speech. She and all like her will eventually discover they're telepaths.

>>85626793
You're not crazy. Dawn is fucking amazing.

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>>85615293
just got back from it, if you're reading this, anon.

liked it way more than Rise.

Maurice confirmed for best ape

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I thinkthis movie's biggest mistake was trying too hard to link it with the original movie. That Planet of the Apes's origin has already been explained as a time fuckery loop. There is no reason to have the Humans lose their speech, no reason for the apes to go from a lush forest to a shitty dessert, no reason to name the girl Nova or Caesar's child Cornelius.
These were all forced as fuck and the movie would have been much better without them.
Debate me.

>>85612596
leave it to a fucking monkey to know what trigger discipline is

>>85643606
there was no reason for them, but they provided nice emotional moments and a sense of closure.

luckily they didn't do an absurd statue of liberty cameo. hope there's no part IV

>>85643777
>but they provided nice emotional moments
Dawn accomplished that without devolving into reference territory. And there better not be a fourth movie.

>>85644078
the first movie also had a bunch of hamfisted references (take your hands off me you damn dirty ape), they are definetly the weakest part of the trilogy