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Will esports make it on TV or will they fail like they have in the past?
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>Taxpayer funded esports coverage
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I yam a afffleeet
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>>85605864
>taxpayer funded education/healthcare/anything else
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Let's hope not.
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Hope they cover the return of Broodwar HD
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>>85605838
It will fail. Normies are never going to care about a bunch of betas playing video games.
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e league does pretty well and it covers like 6 games now,
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>>85605952
E-league has about the same number of viewers as ancient Seinfeld reruns that air at 2AM.
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No because only nerds like watching games.
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>>85605864

taxpayer funded history
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>>85606027
we wuz blaksmiffs n sheiiiiit bruv
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>>85606005
It's really no shock that white women are getting blacked at record breaking levels. Modern day white boys are so beta that they're too busy playing video games.
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>>85606073
Video games are better than women though. You'll understand when you get a girlfriend and you have no time for video games, or TV. I can't even get an album in these days.
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>>85606151
>and you have no time for video games, or TV

Sounds like you're just too beta to manage a relationship. Probably a clinger. I'm glad video games have given a place to escapist losers like you.
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>>85605838
Why would anyone need esports on TV. TV is dead
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>>85606289
It's more down to my job and loving situation which should be sorted by the end of the year but we can't all be NEET like you despite how much we wish.
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The people who care about that kind of thing, don't watch TV, and if they do they pirate their shit.
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>>85605894
>pay taxes
>get free education, infrastructure, healthcare, welfare in times of need
Hmmm, truly noting in return

Fuck off to /pol/ trumpbaby
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>>85606394
>this is what goes through the mind of a wageslave cuckboy
lmao. enjoy wasting your life.
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>>85606043

also romans
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>>85606439
Enjoy festering in your dead mom's baby milk.
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>>85605838
Is that some elaborate plot to convince the bongs to stop paying for the BBC license?
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>>85605838
That have been on TV for years

Only in graveyard slots on obscure shows. Because this is a niche and boring as fuck to watch unless you have a understanding of the games meta.
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Esports garbage ruined gaming, just look at the clusterfuck with PUBG and steamers, tv would just double down on the shittiness
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>>85605838

I don't get it. When was a kid watching my friends play video games was the most boring and frustrating thing in the world
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>>85606151
>complains about having no time

>is shitposting on 4chan
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>>85606595
I find when you understand the meta its even more boring.
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>>85605838
I hope WoW makes it so I can watch high level guilds raiding on my comfy TV
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>>85606706
> WoW
> relevant

Even pathetic twitch fags don't watch WoW.
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>watching pasty-faced, acne-scarred, gangly miscreants who walk without moving their arms, and speak in monotone voices, compete in "sports" (that don't even require them to leave their seat)
>paying tax so these absolute fucking losers at everything life-related can indulge their myopic whims at desks while viewing computer screens up really, really close

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji9KmXwrA5Y

Wew lad. Just WEW. Look how mad sperglords got, when this champion exposed their pathetic selves. Look at all those dislikes. Oh, THAT showed them!

Gamers should KILL themselves.
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>>85606801
Pull that back right now.
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The only decent "esport" that is actually fun to watch, even for outsiders, is CSGO.
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>>85605838
Why would they need to? Cable is a dying medium and esports and the internet already go hand in hand
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>>85606809
>I've created a race of dummies
>t. god while looking at an african

What did they mean by this?
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>>85606409
>not paying taxes
>still get free education, infrastructure, healthcare and welfare all the time
mmm i wonder why tax payers have a problem with taxes
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I only watch fighting games
can't fucking wait for the new ex layer game.
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>>85606869
>bunch of cheaters trying to outcheat eachother
>fun
The only watchable esport game is Dota 2
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>mfw e-sports will be bigger than real sports when the boomers die off
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>>85605838
Well BBC3 is no longer a broadcast television channel, so technically it's being streamed online just under the supervision of the BBC. So this isn't much different to its previous arenas
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>>85607125
> some fat burger or malnourished gook farming for 20 minutes
> watchable
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>>85605838
I watched Faker destroy the world hopes three finals in a row and it was amazing.
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>>85607160
I think young people like real sports too. Isn't /sp/ a really popular board?
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>>85607160
> mfw when gamers and their pathetic heroes will still be virgins

You deserve the blackening that's happening right now.
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>>85607192
You just jelly cause you lack fingers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yds9PxBIY4
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>>85607160
>celebrating the devolution of society, by supporting these donks who are steadily going blind while developing RSI, contributing nothing at all of value, and inspiring absolutely nobody to physically be the best they can be

5 minutes alone in a padded room with one of these sad cunts, and not only would I make them wish they were dead, they'd be inspired to spread the message to other wannabe-"esporters" that Hell is coming for them all.
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>>85605838
What the fuck are esports? sports?
You have /sp/ for that, fuck off.
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>>85605838
> tax money goes towards this

Taxation really is theft at this point.
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>>85606409
>free
You must be 18+ to post here.
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>>85607393
>What the fuck are espeorts?

Pic related events
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>>85606151
I honestly think that videogames are the downfall of humanity, I mean it's okay to casually play a game, but to be obsessed and taking vieogames like it's something of value, people who do this should be killed with a blade.
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>>85607393

Futbol, baloncesto, bullfighting...you know, the esports
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>>85605838
bbc three isn't on tv anymore m8
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>>85607472
A lot of empty seats. The fucking butter tart festival was more full than this.
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I want Sheever to smother me with her pusy
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Of course it will fail. Do you think anyone will watch aspies like this?
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>>85607472
A comet can't come soon enough.
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>>85605838
BBC Three is online only, not on TV

Literally no one will watch it instead of Twitch.tv

BBC execs showing once again how fucking incompetent they are with public funds.
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>>85607701
Those are all /ourguys/ except for faggot reddit Seagull
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>>85607639
That's one of the early Dota International tours. You should see the hype over there in Asia, the gamers are more popular then your favorite artists over here.
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>>85607600
>tourada
>sport
Not that I care about sports, but fuck that shit.
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>>85607770
ti4 wasnt early newfag
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>>85607688
I want sjokz to sit on my face
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>>85607701
I'm quite serious when I say that the U.S. should test its modern weaponry at events like this.
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>>85607833
It clearly says 2014, first international was in 2011
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>>85607770
>the gamers are more popular then your favorite artists over here

Outside of South Korea nobody gives a shit. I've lived in both China and Japan and 99% of the population couldn't name a "professional gamer." Even in South Korea the popularity of gaming is highly overstated.
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>>85607908
the international was established as the biggest esport event way before ti4 (in TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR)
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>>85607770
>That's one of the early Dota International tours

More people watched the world scrabble championships. Pathetic.
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>>85608082
Check the money prize.
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>>85605838
If BBC is willing to pick it up, then you know it's pure degeneracy.
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>>85608192
> implying a large money prize would make this kind of beta behavior and degeneracy acceptable
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>>85608295
Well it kinda is slowly.

Its already here just needs a little stronger push
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>>85608339
Once the economy collapses gamers will be some of the first against the wall.
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>>85605838
post some esports kino
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The only esports "athletes" that could be shown on TV are the CSGO ones.
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>>85607639
this was TI4
we don't talk about TI4
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>>85608410
https://youtu.be/bj7IX18ccdY
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BBC 3 isn’t on TV anymore, it went online only years ago. Ginx TV was a video game channel with reviews and stuff but it shows mainly esports nowadays, even renamed the channel Ginx E-sports TV
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who will play /ourguy/ in the inevitable biopic?
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>we went from Roman gladiators, to this
Bountiful times breed weak men. But weak men bring forth harsh times and from this, we will rise and crush you all.
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>>85607210
Only with low IQ and no degree people
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>>85605838
I hope they fail, they're trying to push this too much, first they included it into actual sports, like what kind of a sport is being good at a video game.

I mean I like to play a good game from time to time as well like every other dude, but trying to live on that game and dedicating your whole life on it isn't really good.
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>>85605864

We already have that in Finland.
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>>85607731
I'm 99% sure the tories are trying to crash the beeb with no survivors
and it won't be missed
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>>85608550
>match fixer
>our guy
kys

THIS is /ourguy/
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>>85608410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V3O9dDj4Ck
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>>85607701
The most hilarious thing is the game they play. I remember when the players decided which games were good for competition and which were not. Now the publishers decide.
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>>85605838

I'm glad I don't have TV licence.
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>>85608669
cringe
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tfw IBUYPOWER unbanned
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E-sports people watch it on twitch anyway, I bet most of them don't even have tv access, because their parents are more likely to be watching something else.
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At least we can agree that SC2 is the patrician e-sport right?
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>>85606809
As if watching overpaid niggers and chads throw balls at each other is that much more entertaining. All of it is "what the fuck is wrong with you"-tier entertainment, where you wonder how someone could enjoy what isn't too far from paint drying.

At least with e-sports they don't have to stop every five seconds because someone got an e-penalty.
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>>85609123
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>>85608880
>thinking fnatic never threw

>>85609176
>a-move 200psi ball
>whoever wins the fight wins

brood war is the patrician e-sport, newfriend
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>>85608410
https://youtu.be/ThcK0Bc80EI
not only does it have THICK in the url, it's probably the best pro frag video
also C9 is the best
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>>85606043
more than you've done with your life
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>>85605838
>mfw Hearthstone TV
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there are so many shitty channels I don't see why not

but this just seems like a way to show more ads. I don't see what's better for the viewer than twitch, besides twitch being too lazy to make a samsung TV app
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>>85606465
>no black soldiers
>what are nubians
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>>85609168
>>85609452


It's not being shown on TV though, BBC Three is an online channel, and even if it was on TV, the BBC doesn't have ads.
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Why are all these guys either really skinny or fat? There's never any /fit/ esports players. Why?
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>>85609579
I'm talking about TBS, Disney XD and other channels that started showing this stuff in America.
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>>85609662
CS:GO is literal full of /fit/ chads. Dota is is pretty much full of normal people (also a SJW's diversity wet dream)
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>>85605952
I tried watching that last night and saw "Sponsored by Geico" next to someones mom making breakfast and talking about how she was proud because her son tried all these sports but then sat down at a computer than found his true calling. I got depressed and shut it off.

>>85608527
I make exceptions for fighting games. They honestly make me hype and feel superior to actual combat sports because nobody gets hurt, I watched SF5 EVO on ESPN2 and it was insane.

>>85609662
Why waste time getting fit? I think there is a CS:GO team that works out and got buff though.
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>>85609887
This is true, Counter Strike always had fit duds, even during 1.6 era.
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>watching any kind of 'esports' event outside of fighting games

everything else is just pointless, nothing will ever come close to the level of fighting games in terms of true player skill. go back to /d2g/ bitch
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ESPORTS literally ruined videogames. twice as much as SJWs ever could have dreamed. Eceleb worship is the one thing that separated competative games from "real" sports and now thats all down the drain thanks to bullshit like starcraft 2, dota, league, and soon overwatch

fuck blizzard and fuck valve and fuck normalfags
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>>85609662
>There's never any /fit/ esports players

right here friendo, fighting games have lots of fit players because a healthy body leads to a healthy mind
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>>85610032
YOU WORTHLESS SPECIMEN
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>>85610085
>fighting games
dude, i hope this is an ironic post
Its the one genre that doesn't have any /fit/ esports players
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>>85609662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc8iOeB3y4U
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>>85605838
TV is already dying, especially among the demographic that might be interested in esports

I think it's a ploy to trick some investors, "WE'RE GONNA BE ON TV" is still a big thing to some

I've heard that ELEAGUE is getting decent numbers though so who the fuck knows, maybe in the US it could be sustainable

>>85605894
Name a working libertarian healthcare system
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>>85610012

cs is so realistic that to truly practice, you need to emulate the game in real life, which requires a certain level of physicality

just dont practice at school, people will get mad
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>>85609662
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>>85610073

it isn't clear what you're saying
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>tfw fnc will BTFO skt at worlds
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>>85610172
this is absolute bullshit.
literally all you need to do to be good at CS is do a shitton of cocaine. not even exaggerating. A lot of scrub tryhards think you can get away with "just adderal" but I assure you, the true masters of the game are all coc heads and have been since 1.6
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>>85610121
LTG is a real /fit/izen. Complete with autism and cuck memes.
There's also LIJoe and 801 Strider off the top of my head.
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>>85607701
This kind of shit is the fault of whoever is planning the event though, they aren't doing that on their own accord

>>85609443
Hearthstone isn't esports
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>>85607584

depends how you value your time, do you value it in money earned? if so all hobbies are a waste of time
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>>85605838
either way this garbage doesn't belong on /sp/.
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>>85606409
>pay taxes
>free
Really activates my toasted almonds there friend
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>>85607701
>overtrash
>esport
this game is losing players at a record pace
blizzard keep shoving money to make people believe it's an esport, but Riot and CS have dominate the market for too long
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>>85609662
You haven't been looking hard enough, there are some. Soundness of body and mind
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Csgo is actually fun to watch
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>>85610207
nerds were driven to videogames because they sucked at regular sports and wanted a competitive outlet. If you've ever gone outside as a kid, you'll know how "playing sports" goes. Its all a bunch of tryhards from age 5 to age 25. The main drive for this is often psycopath parents, but sometimes its because of sports stars. In vidya, you had nothing to aspire to. All the good players didnt look to others for improvement, they would literally download or screencap their own gameplay and watch it like an old man reads the newspaper every morning. It was part of their routine, self-reflect and improve. With esports, people dont do this, they just go to youtube and twitch and observe others in an attempt to glean something off of someone who knows how to hone themselves. This increases expectations to an unreasonable degree for both high and low level players. The bar of entry for videogames used to be quite low, but now its extremely high. Noobs have always been mocked in vidya culture, but the nuance of what 'get good, scrub' means has changed completely over the past couple decades.
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>>85610204
Sean Gears, I'd let him fuck me, full homo.
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>>85606409
>free
>being a Bernout libtard
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>>85609397
>also C9 is the best
>below fucking Dignitas
kys
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>>85610299
the problem is that they want overwatch to be like ape hoop, divegrass, or hand egg. With CITY/NATIONAL teams. So what they did is they made the entry fee for their league so absurd only a city or an extremely rich investor would be able to afford it. Thats why its losing players, because legitimate esports teams with the top players cannot afford to join the league.
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>>85610121
fighting games have a lot of fatties but they also have a lot of fit dudes who take care of themselves. Like I already said, unlike other esports, you really need to be in tip top shape to compete in fighters on the highest level, and that includes both the body and the mind. I'm pretty sure i can think of more fit fighting game players over any other esports genre out there

>>85610243
Snake Eyes is also in pretty good shape and clearly works out.
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>>85607701
based autists that are doing their best to look cool
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Didn't BBC 3 shut down and go online only?
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>>85610392
I don't know how it works in other games but for cs, dignigs fucking blow
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>>85610428
look all i know is that you wont find me at no FGC event. Niggas don't know how to use deodorant and have never seen the inside of a shower before.
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>>85610217
>rfw fnatic couldnt even beat the NA shitters
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>>85610264
>>85610372
>every thread

You know, it isn't hard to google average healthcare costs for countries with socialized healthcare compared for those without. You don't have to worry about being raped by a loophole in your insurance policy and have your family put in debt for life after inevitably getting bowel cancer. Lobbyists and interest groups are getting the US government to spend $600 billion on the military every year, but socialized healthcare is the devil
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>>85607210
25% of /sp/ is niggers who want to talk about apehoop 24/7 and 50% is eurocucks who want to talk about soccer 24/7 and aren't into any other sport. 25% are actual sports fans who discuss a sport properly during its season.
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>>85610521
>he took rift rivals seriously
C9 Ray literally broke out the fucking Ribbon and fed his ass off for the lols
FNC went back after RR and wiped G2 like the garbage they are
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>>85609662
>you're at a lan and these guys slap your girlfriends ass

what do you do?
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>>85610217
European scene is fucking dead m8
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>>85610423
Yeah, it's like 20 million dollars to buy a franchise license
For a game that has barely been out for a year and has a pretty much nonexistent viewerbase, it's fucking stupid
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>>85606073
minorities are the main demographic for video games you porn addicted freak
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>>85605838
They'll fail. People watch sports because the men and women playing said sports are the peak definition of sound mind and body, and people like to watch real athletes perform their skills and prowess.

Esports is just a bunch of immature, socially-stunted spergbabies and autists, who've done little else but playtest a video game to the limits of it's nuances and programming. After a relatively short period of learning, trial and error, there is nothing random or analogue about playing a video game. It's just monkies pressing the right buttons at the right time, over and over and over and over again. It's nowhere near as randomized or analogue as say, a football game, a basketball game, etc. plus all these guys do is just sit in a chair looking dub as dogshit, clicking their little buttons. 99.9% of the time the players aren't even likeable people, so with all that considered, what are you really left with?
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>>85610360

can you sum this into a succinct sentence cause I read it 3 times and it sounds like you're saying esports ruined video games by creating an environment where you're judged on how much you suck or not

but that can't make sense cause there's like 5 esports that anyone pays attention to and there's thousands of video games
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>>85610565
FNC is literally the only good team in EU
Ofc they can't beat Samsung, but they could beat skt
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>>85610634
>It's just monkies pressing the right buttons at the right time, over and over and over and over again. It's nowhere near as randomized or analogue as say, a football game, a basketball game, etc
t. skyrim player
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>>85606043
more like BLACKEDsmith
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>>85610428
>Snake Eyes is also in pretty good shape and clearly works out.

Yeah, but the point is moot. His being in shape has no bearing on the racket of esports. a fat 400 lb. autist can easily come along one day and be 5 times better than he is, for all his health. His physique means literally nothing in the world of esports. If anything it makes him look more retarded, since any sane man would ask why isn't this guy utilizing his health and time better.
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>>85610634

starcraft
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>>85610692
Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't. You're just asscrushed because I laid the reality of the whole charade bare.
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>>85606409
>pay taxes
>free
Socialists are this retarded
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>>85610760

are you arguing a point or just providing information
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>>85610760
>why isn't this guy utilizing his health and time better.

making 6 figures competing in something you enjoy isn't good enough?
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>>85610634
/v/irgins on suicide watch
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>>85610775
Starcraft is programmed environment, like all other video games are a programmed environment. Eventually, you will hit a wall as far as everything you could possibly do in a relatively few situations they program.
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>>85610641
its not the games themselves, its the player worship (you can see it in this thread too). That used to be essentially non-existant UNLESS you were actually good enough to be at the top, you didn't know who the best players were at any game. Nowadays, even awful players and new players know who the best ones are and seek shortcuts to being good at a game while completely missing fundamentals.
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>>85610360
I think the big difference is that gamer types don't know how/like working on a team.

Play a competitive team based game like rocket league and watch how quickly your teammates shit on you for the smallest mistake. This kind of thing is cancer in a real team sport, because it kills morale and camaraderie. They're too autistic to play on a team, so they gravitate towards things where they can lone wolf it.
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>>85610634
Excellent post.
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>>85610255
Plenty of hobbies develop useful skills in some way or at least provide something to talk about in social situations. Gaming does neither. Talking about gaming in real life is fucking pathetic.
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>>85610564
Challenge them to a squatting competition, have a great workout, dump your girlfriend for being a whore, and go out to eat steak with your new bros.
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>>85610951
>reading is useless
>talking about books is pathetic
wew its like you hate storytelling mediums
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BBC3 isn't on TV it's online only.
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>>85610951
>watching movies doesn't develop any skills
>talking about movies makes you pathetic
>you are on /tv/ right now
WEW LAD
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>>85610634
>and women
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>>85610634
Competitive chess, poker and snooker are a thing anon.
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>>85611156
league of legends is gay
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>>85610805
At some point a man's contribution to the world should outweigh the harm he has caused. Promoting, and even participating, in gaming is incredibly harmful and does nothing but promote laziness, stupidity and degeneracy.
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>>85611156
league is for brainlets, im sorry dude.
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>>85611195
Well those brainlets are raking in literal millions from tournaments so you're definitely more retarded then.
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>>85611180
>>85607584
>dude vidya gaems are destroying civilizations!
>unironically using the word degeneracy while posting on /tv/
Lmao, what a tradcuck. I'm glad your ilk rendered yourselves irrelevant.
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>>85610539
You'd also get far worse care, and you'd have to wait for 3-4 months to see a specialist. Socialized systems are also very authoritarian and unjust, and there would be rationing of care.I know that you've been brainwashed by your professors and media, but you really don't know what your'e talking about.
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>>85610910
Most Mobas are pretty damn team based, and the team players always do better than the lone wolves
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>>85611024
>>85611057
Reading and even film are far more worthwhile than gaming. They develop linguistic capabilities, share important experiences and develop important traits like empathy. Advanced story telling has always served a valuable purpose.

Gaming does none of those things. The stories and writing are pathetically bad at best and the most popular games don't even tell stories they simply provide a shallow form of escapism. Pretending some fat ass virgin is an athlete to be admired is the height of ridiculousness.
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Who /sheever/ here?
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>>85611293
I get it, you're mad at me because I said the truth, but read my post again, I never used the word degeneracy.
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>>85611180
>contribution to the world
Marxist gobbledygook
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>>85611297
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH WOW.
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>>85605838
This e sports shit is something new, autists have taken over

Remember when nobody gave a shit about "e sports" and it was just a couple of guys who played Counter Strike a little too much? Those days were fun
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>>85611386
>chess, poker, billiards etc. don't take any skill and shouldn't be taken seriously because they aren't athletic

I can't tell if you're baiting at this point
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>>85611490
>>85611180
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>>85610634
I salute you.
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>>85611589
Chess, poker and billiards teach valuable traits and can be very useful in social situations.

Video games is one of the few hobbies that is entirely worthless.
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>>85609662
watch counter strike

that's the only esport that alpha males play
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>>85611689
> alpha males
> video games
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>>85609463
They did not go to there
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>>85611707
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>>85611689
Counter Strike is literally the least autistic of all video games, even normies are pros at it
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>>85611386
>my useless hobby is more useful than your useless hobby
kek
Also wrong.
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>>85607701
Our men

They look just like me, we would get along
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TI is in 4 days

who hype
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>>85605894
Why pay taxes at all?
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>>85611874
Is that some boring faggy MOBA shit?
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>>85609463
Auxiliares
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>>85611689
Alpha males don't play videogames you fool.
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>>85611917
its the only MOBA shit worth watching
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>>85610032
Guess that's why fighting games communities are mostly dominated by niggers
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>>85611970
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>>85611980
No MOBA shit is worth watching.
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>>85610634
>said sports are the peak definition of sound mind and body, and people like to watch real athletes perform their skills and prowess.
>soundness of mind
*rapes girl in hotel*
*raises dogs to fight each other*
*knocks up woman and flees the state*
*gets millions of dollars each year and goes broke 5 years later*
*moves to miami to get title*
*GETS CONCUSSED*
*cant read*
*be irish*
Trust me, soundness of mind is very far away from sports.
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>>85611874
>competitive autistic finger painting
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>>85611808
Playing videogames shouldn't be considered an hobby, carving wood, fishing, throwing rocks at cats can be considered an hobby but sitting on your fat ass all day while looking at a screen is definitely not my idea of an hobby.
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>>85606994
>>85607453
>>85610264
>>85610372
>>85610797
>be poor
>fall terminally ill
>don't have millions of dollars to afford treatment at Shekelberg Grabbinstein's clinic
>die
truly the land of the free
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>>85611689
>watch counter strike
>that's the only esport that alpha males play
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>>85610564
id let them gang bang her if they let me watch and lick after
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Why is this thread up on /tv/ if its /sp/ and we're not allowed to discuss the news here even though its on television?

is this more liberal biased moderaiton?
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>>85612113
But you're not just watching the screen all day. You're playing the game. Like chess. Or poker.

Watching the screen all day is /tv/ :^)
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>>85612113
yet here you are, on /tv/
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>>85612263
Posting on 4chan is more worthwhile than video games. I may eventually improve my writing or learn something from you autists.
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Everyone knows doturd is the real esport. Actual hype and drama.
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>>85611874
only competition I get hyped about besides the World Cup.
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its probably on right now?

google bbc iplayer and use something like hola vpn in your chrome browser
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>>85605894
>tfw work 40 hours a week for minimum wage so the CEO of my company can make millions a year
>tfw he tries his best to pay even less taxes that would go towards my healthcare, education, food, etc.
>tfw I'm the real leech
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>>85612263
I never claimed that posting on /tv/ was an hobby, but I'd rather post on /tv/ all day and share my thoughts and opinions than play worthless videogames.
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