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STAR TREK: DISCOVERY

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IS EVERYONE READY FOR FORCED DIVERSITY?
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>>85597703
I wanted the asian to be the real captain 2bh
well, they'll probably cancel it after S2 anway
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Is this the only Trek without cornpone?
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>>85597703
One alien? One fucking alien? Fuck this is going to be a boring show.
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>>85597703
>Forced Diversity
Nigga it's Star Trek
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>All aliens are bipedal humanoids
Star trek is so shit...
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>>85597703
star trek invented it
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>>85597940
So I'm guessing that singular alien is a race that's unique to Starfeet.
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>>85597703
>Majority of crew is white
>forced diversity

You can push your obsession a bit too far, Anon.

Star Trek has always been diverse, if you can't handle it you should watch Star Wars.
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>>85597703
>Diversity
>only one non-human

This is literally the least diverse trek since the original series
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it's a fucking nu-trek reboot that's even worse than jj's nu-trek reboot
who cares
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>>85597703

I wouldn't be so mad about the blatant forced diversity if they actually hired a decent actress.
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>>85597703
literally any time a non-white person is in an important role in anything people here will call it "forced"
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>>85598029
That wasn't forced though. It was just natural.
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>>85597703
Special pol snowflake getting triggered by star trek. Every fucking time.
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>>85598253
It wasn't forced because the retarded pol mindset wasn't around back then.
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How the fuck can you get upset by the racial make up of the Star Trek crew? Jesus Chirist you yank nazis are babies.
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>>85597703
it don't know why /pol/-tards are complaining all the time
it's the future so realistically it would have to be all chinky looking negroids
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>>85597703
>not a single disabled transgendered Cambodian person
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>>85597703
why are they dressed like xmen
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>>85598541
Because Picard was Xavier.
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>>85598333
>It wasn't forced because the retarded pol mindset wasn't around back then.

/pol/ mindset wasn't around back then because current day SJW's weren't around back then. In current day roles for white men in Trek are effeminate faggot, villain and alien.
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>>85598648
Why even reply to the shill?
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>>85598648
Enterprise had based white men that did nothing wrong.
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>>85597703
>implying star trek was anything ever but forced diversity but SJW
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>>85598648
SJWs were always there, otherwise trek would've never been made
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Social Justice and modern day progressivism is the literal antithesis of 60s progressive attitudes.

Back then the message was everyone was equal and everyone should be judged on their merits and ability. Now progressives demand that the very first thing you take into account about a person is their race, then sex, then orientation, then religion, then any disabilities, then apply a bunch of victim labels to that person, and assort them in a victimhood heirarchy. Next they demand that all cultures be kept separate and never mingled to preserve cultural purity and prevent "appropriation". Finally, they are actually demanding resegregation of colleges, which will likely spread to businesses and other places.

Modern day progressivism is an exacting parallel of 50s white supremacy, and it is an absolutely abhorrent ideology.
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why is everything about race nowadays, I really miss movies from the 70s to 90s where black or asian characters just were this, characters
when you discuss them you basically never address their race, instead you make memes about the bonus situation or whatever, but not start an autistic screeching contest
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>Crying about diversity in a Star Trek show
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>>85598883
Yeah, back then it was about equality
then the retarded /pol/ mindset pushed minorities to their limits while white people claimed that everything is fine and there's total equality now when that was simply not the case, that resulted in ferguson and BLM. And since then, every minority followed suit asking for Equity, not Equality, thus now both sides are concentrated on creating divide, since mixing everyone together didn't work so well last time.
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>>85597703
holy fuck the SJWs have gone too far this time
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>>85598896
it's all because of /pol/ and trump, if not for them, we would be living on a socialist utopian deep space station by now
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>>85598965
I would like to blame pol but it's not just them, there's also a lot of positive "racism" for the lack of a better word in popular media
you can't introduce a character without SJWs go hurr beautiful strong black man/woman, americans always construct a cultural identity around the skin color nowadays, whether it's a good or bad one

just like when black americans talk about "black culture" and include africa eventhough they have nothing in common except skin color, but even that not to the same degree
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>>85597940

>forgetting about the BLACKED Klingons

>>85598028

he's the first of his species to join Starfleet because you can't spell "Mary Sue" without SARU.
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>>85598648
>In current day roles for white men in Trek are effeminate faggot, villain and alien

I can just imagine if Deep Space Nine (1993) came out today. /poltv/ would be absolutely triggered that the only white male not in alien prosthetics would be "that cucked beta" O'Brien.

Voyager (1995) would be even worse. Can you imagine the spam?
>WE WUZ VULCANZ AN' SHIET
>Muh stronk independent womyn captain who don't need no man YAAS QUEEN SLAAAY!
>B'Elanna "Look goyim, racemixing is ok" Torres
>"Fucking anti-Christian message (((they))) are pushing. No one believes in God in the 24th century, but this spiritual Indian guy is ok?"
>"This crew has such contrived diversity ratios! It's so obvious this show is pushing an agenda"
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get these NIGGERS off my television!
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>>85597703
i hope that alien is a scumbag and i hope he hits on women of all races. so far all aliens working for the fleet have been the same: british accent, very polite and serious.
i hope this abomination got the job because of nepotism or because the fleet blew up his fucking planet by accident
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god this shows gonna suck.
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>>85597737
who'se the captain?
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>>85600587
captain MMMMMHHMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>85597703
It's been a long road
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>>85598333
the retarded leftypol mindset made the show diverse, retard, to train the scifi watching audience to be used to globalism.
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Regardless of the diversity doesn't this crew just look boring as fuck? None of them peek my interest whatsoever

I mean look at TNG's line-up >>85598029 Even if you didn't know anything about the series there's a lot going on here: a handsome young guy maybe a charming rouge, an alien officer with a sash, a woman in uniform, some old wise looking guy, some sort of grayish person maybe an alien, a cute woman who's not in proper uniform but clearly part of the team and cyclops from X-men

And then look at OP's pic: woman, man, man, man, black woman, tall space dude, asian woman
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>>85597703
>FORCED DIVERSITY
Can this meme die?
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>>85599273
Its not that people hate diversity or anything. Its that lately pretty much everything that does have diversity is the forced and cringey kind. The old Star Trek shows, even going back to the original, were all about people from different backgrounds and even different planets working together to see what's out there. But those shows were written by good writers. If you were to ask me if I trust any writer in 2017, the year where things like the Ghostbusters reboot or Marvel's complete ruining of pretty much their entire line exist, if I trust a writer to handle diversity with any amount of subtlety or nuance, I'd have to say no.

I'm fine with strong black female Star Trek captain. I'm fine with female Doctor Who. I'm fine with lady Jedi and black Stormtroopers. Fuck, I'd be fine with all female Ghostbusters team. But with all the shit I've been given lately, I don't trust this particular set of ass clowns who work in Hollywood right now. You want me to support your minority characters? Prove to me you know what you're doing first. Then we'll talk.
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>>85597703
Let's complain about diversity in a series that has always been known for diversity. There must be logic there some where.
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>>85599273
>>"Fucking anti-Christian message (((they))) are pushing. No one believes in God in the 24th century, but this spiritual Indian guy is ok?"

But this was a common complaint even when the series was airing and is part of the reason why Chakotay fucking sucked

>>B'Elanna "Look goyim, racemixing is ok" Torres

Spock was half-human you dweeb

>>Muh stronk independent womyn captain who don't need no man YAAS QUEEN SLAAAY!

I don't remember Janeway once complaining about MUH VAGINA

>>WE WUZ VULCANZ AN' SHIET

His character was good though
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>>85598926
It's sad isn't it, imagine being that stupid. It's like they don't even understand the message of the show.
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Is it impossible to go one day without /pol/tards crying about something ?
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>>85597703
Captains Log, stardate 1701.

We've arrived at a distant planet, the primitive lifeforms are much like our own however the female of the spieces seems to the dominant. Their society is simple, yet in many ways more advanced than our own. For all our technology, we lack the diversity, the tolerance and social wonder these people have. We can learn much from them.
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>>85597703

No Andorian? No Tellarite? No Bolian? No Trill? No Saurian? No Rigellian? No This is the fucking least diverse Trek has ever been since ToS.
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>>85600851
TNG already did that and it was hamfisted as fuck
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>>85600678
Are you sure you want to lock that answer? If anything the crew of TNG looks generic. Not that Discovery looks much better, but as a group TNG looks pretty generic.
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>>85598253
>Past Trek have a diverse cast
>Its just natural
>New Trek does the same
REEEE WOMEN SUCK NIGGERS SUCK JUSTICE4TRUMP
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>>85600879
>as a group TNG looks pretty generic.

Not really, Enterprise looks generic, TNG looks interesting

Regardless is was more the comparison between the two

The only character in TNG shoot that doesn't look that interesting or unique is Crusher
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>>85598926
>he doesn't know the difference between diversity and (((diversity)))
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>>85600852
Fortunately for us we're shameless hypocrites.
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>>85597975
>being wrong
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>According to Entertainment Weekly, Bryan Fuller’s original pitch to CBS had the show starting in Discovery‘s timeline, but then moving through the eras of Kirk and Picard and then going beyond that, reaching a time period that hasn’t been seen in Star Trek before. He wanted to do something like American Horror Story, which resets its storyline each season, and described it as a “platform for a universe of Star Trek shows.” However CBS decided to create a single serialized show and see how it performed before agreeing to anything that elaborate.

We could have had trekino

We could have had fucking trekino
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>>85598952
Lol omg inoritee????XD
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>>85600951
That's exactly it. Diversity would be having a black female crew member and treating her just like every other crew member. (((Diversity))) would be everyone stopping and just staring in awe at how marvelous and amazing the minority crew members are and how perfect every single decision they make is. I don't trust the writers working in the business right now to not do the latter.

To be blasphemous and use a Star Wars reference in a Star Trek thread, I want an Ahsoka. I'm afraid I'll get a Rey.
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>>85600951
>>85601099
What part of the trailer showed forced diversity?
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>>85601134
The part where it was produced by CBS in the year 2017
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>>85597703
Since diversity has been one of the main fucking staples of Star Trek since the 1960's, what is your fucking point, other than proving to everyone that you have clearly never watched the fucking show at all. You are not only retarded but also annoying and probably longing to suck on a niggers cock but are too afraid of your "feelings" to do so. My advice is to go an have "gay" sex with some niggers then kill yourself to stop the shame.
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>>85597703
that's normal for star trek.

the only time it's been a negative thing was voyager, and only because of janeway.
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>>85600610
Season 4 is good Star Trek, a shame that the earlier seasons all suck.
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>>85601134
Like I said, I just assume the writers are incompetent nowadays until proven otherwise. I have been burned by terribly written minority characters who only exist to SLAY their YAAS QUEEN so many times that I go in expecting the worst now. Star Wars, Doctor Who, Ghostbusters, every single Marvel comic, they're all terrible written. It seems to be a trend in Hollywood. And each time it happens, I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong about this. I hope Discovery has well written, nuanced characters that exist beyond their race and gender.

But I kinda doubt it.
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>>85600851
>Stardate 1702
>The females appear angry at the men, who are confused about the reason. When questioning what they have done wrong, the females start screaming what loosely translates to "if you have to ask, then I'm not telling you" the males then congregate at a nearby cave and consume what I appears to be alcohol.
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There's a big difference between the diversity now and diversity then. Tuvok wasn't a black Vulcan so they hired a black actor, Tuvok was a Vulcan and they happened to go with Tim Russ because he was a good actor and fitted the role. The new characters are black ____ and gay _____, meaning they were built and written around those arbitary characteristics. That's why the wiki descriptions and the section on casting open with and mention their skin colour and sexuality. These things have nothing to do with the fucking characters and it's clear the show was built around checking boxes

That's the difference
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>>85597703
>one alien
>one black chick
Woah, so much diversity guys!
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>>85601300
S3 was fgood tho
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>>85597703
[muffled unenthusiastic cheering in background]
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>>85601493
>they happened to go with Tim Russ because he was a good actor and fitted the role
Are you this naive? There are always way more actors than there are speaking roles. When a character appears of a certain race, it was decided before the character was cast. Star Trek wrote the book on forced diversity
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POC and a gay guy isn't a big deal nowadays. It's laughable how CBS is patting itself on its own back about this. Want to really break new ground? Make your cast non-american.

What the fuck is so diverse about having an afro-american, an asian-american and a latino-american on a show about a unified earth? But I guess even the most liberal showrunner doesn't want to confuse his audience with too foreign sounding names.
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>>85601627
S3 WAS THE FUCKING WORST

26 episodes of ticking clock that lead to nothing
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>>85602458
The last episode of 3 was the final insult. The Enterprise finally manages to destroy the fucking weapon (barely) and then: nothing. A new arc starts. Wtf?
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>>85600758
Hi rebbit!
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>>85597703

That's Star Trek, anon.

Forced equality.

It's kinda good though in that everyone behaves like good Europeans and there's no actual differences other than what they look like.

I guess that's the egalitarian dream. It's fiction, though.
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looks alright
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>>85601056
>from the creator of American Gods
No thanks.
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>>85598835
>SJWs were always there, otherwise trek would've never been made

There is difference between 50's and 60's progressives and their modern retarded counter parts that are called SJW's. They have cranked their ideology to 14 on Spinal Tap-scale. Progressives used to be quite a lot about opposing tyranny, now they want set up tyranny, oppression and kill free speech.

>>85599273
The difference between 90's and today is that basis of their PR-effort was about making good sci-fi show, instead of virtue signaling. Most of terrorism in western countries was made by mostly secular nationalists, usually targeted killings of opponents or bombings that came with warning, usually if authorities didn't fuck up everything only casualties would be police EOD-crews.
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"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."
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>>85597703
Why do people keep pushing the "forced diversity" narrative when whites are a minority even in the US? Are empty (you)s really more desirable than actual discussion?
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Diversity amongst the main crew isn't an issue, the Klangest looking stupid are, and the fact their ships are basically floating gothic churches now.
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>Micheal, spock's adopted Black Sister
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHa
>Religious zealot Klingons meant to be represent ISIS so they can do a "Not all Klingons" parable, despite all Klingons being violent savages by nature
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>>85604638

Yeah

Klingons are warmongers and are only kept in check due to equal or greater forces.

As soon as they have an advantage, they take it.
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>>85604433

Why did you bother with reason?

Do you think all of the faggots in this thread running at the mouth about /poltv/ care?
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>>85597703
Everyone knows that show is already expected to be a flop and it will be canceled after one season.
I'm very surprised they even bothered to shill for it in /tv/.
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>>85605249
Discovery confirmed running for 15 seasons then if /tv/ says it will be shit.
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Scuttlebutt says Discovery is DOA and the idea of the Anthology is back on the menu.

This is good!
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>>85604638
Oh god...how didn't I see this before....
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>>85597703
You've never watched Star Trek if you believe this statement
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>>85605685
Anyone saying this was obviously born after the year 2000.
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Why did they make it another prequel? Why didn't they set it in the future? They're going to be limited by the fact that their technology is going to look more advanced than TOS and going to accidentally retcon a load of shit. Sure, sequels can also retcon the story, but not quite as much as prequels.
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Where's the gay atheist Muslim (did they mean Arab?)
>>85605762
Because it's basically an alternate universe that they're pretending is the original universe to pander to manchildren who don't like the reboots.
Also, because the original show had to do with a war in the past, but that was all scrapped
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>>85604638
Didn't one of the writers say the NuKlingons are supposed to represent divided America or something to that degree?
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>>85597737
>they'll probably cancel it after S2 anway
It won't get a season 2, Netflix won't pay for it again and CBS can't make enough money through their streaming service to fund it.
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>>85597703
>5 out of 7 are white (and yes I'm counting the alien putting on makeup doesn't make you not a white male cracker piece of shit)
>"diverse"
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>>85602974
>and then: nothing.

Did you not watch Season 4? How about when the crew gets into a bar fight with people on Earth who hate them for flying around telling aliens where to find them. Or the rise of Robocop's political movement, etc
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>>85597959
>dat perfect belly
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>>85597703
>Huge guy with plateau shoes
>no midget

Fuck this racist shit
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>It's a shills thread
Will we have to wait until it's cancelled for this shit to end?
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>We'll never get a Star Trek show with the comfiest uniforms on federation's history.
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>>85597980
alien white guy
white guy
good looking hero white guy
white guy doctor
black chick
white guy

>>85598029
white guy
white woman
white captain with integritiy
white robot
white woman
black guy
black alien guy

AND NOW FINALLY
>>85597703
weird looking white woman
weird looking white guy who seems to be her brother
white guy who looks like a manlet with a temper
tall confident mixed race looking guy
milfy black asian looking power lesbian with a weird haircut
another weird old asian lady
freddy kruger whos most likely very friendly and progressive.


IN CONCLUSION

THAT SHITTY NEW SHOW IS TOTALLY JUST DOING THE SAME THING AS TOS
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>>85608433
>TOS
Russian guy
African woman
Japanese guy
American guy
American guy
Alien guy
British guy

>TNG
African man with disability
French guy
American guy
British woman
Alien woman
Alien guy
Andoid

>Discovery
one alien guy
one afro-american woman
a lot of white guys, one of them is gay

If anything, Discovery needs MORE diversity.
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>>85607979
Good riddance, I hated those, pseudo-bell bottoms aside.
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>>85608799
i dont think you know how the game of diversity works

japanese, russian, british, french, android = not diversity
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>>85597703

Jesus christ this crew looks shit.
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>>85601056
The original plan sounds pretty good. For some reason though, networks seem afraid of 25th century Trek, almost like it's too hard for them to imagine what the Federation and the various surrounding empires will be like by then. That's why we got shit like Enterprise and now this.

I would piss myself with glee over a 25th century Trek that explores a dying, decadent, corrupt Federation and implies in some ways that the singular empires (Klingon, Romulan etc) might just be on to something, but of course we'll never get that because it doesn't fit the 'diversity is muh strength' meme.
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>>85600876

So, so fucking weird.
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>>85601056
>>85609195
I remember a tweet from him, that we should think of "All Good Things". I think he wanted a era spanning story arc.
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cast diversity doesn't make a difference

you can just tell discovery will be pushing a ghostbusters 2016 style agenda
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>>85609093
Kind of sick of excessive human crewmembers too. If the Federation was that diverse, at least three quarters of the crew would be aliens. There's a strong likelihood that the captain would be alien too.

It's the Terran Empire in disguise. That's what's always bugged me about Trek.
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>>85609223
>>85600876
But the weren't advanced. They didn't have warp drive and they were sexist as hell.
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>>85609491
*if Starfleet was that diverse, sorry
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>>85609525

you can't be sexist towards men just like you can't be racist towards white people, you shitlord
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>>85609491
After they had announced the name of the captain "Lorca", I hoped that he would be an alien. Missed opportunity there.
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>>85608799

TNG
>African man with disability
>French guy
>American guy
>British woman
>Alien woman
>Alien guy
>Andoid

Riker was Canadian and Crusher was American,
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>>85609661
Riker was born in Alaska and Beverly's grandmother was british I think.
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>>85609620
Definitely. Don't know why they keep opting for human captains. Viewers often find the alien or "different" characters more interesting and you'd think producers would have learned by now.
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>>85609771

this is the mistake they keep making, focusing on the race of characters, or on their social justice modelled backstory struggle in trying to keep those characters in line with what is essentially mainstream irl bullshit

this is where they "push the agenda", regardless if they realize it or not, these hollywood types are so enveloped in the progressive leftist bubble they may not even realize just how bad ghostbusters 2016 was, they've lost objectivity

people want an escape from reality, not a refresher course on gender studies in TV form
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>>85609525

They were also total dipshits

>in our species, the men are smaller and weaker than the women
>therefore in all species this must be the case

Could they not see that the male humans were taller and more built than the female humans? Many were taller and obviously heavier than the women on that planet.
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>>85600587
The strong brown woman.

It's the current year, you shouldn't even have to ask.
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>>85609920
And yet they still don't have the balls to do what TOS did 50 years ago: Take the current american enemy or rival and put him on the bridge.
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>>85600587
The captain is Jason Isaacs.

>>85600593
>>85610058
I really wish we could have even one Trek thread without you ignorant /pol/ tourists.
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>>85610138
STD brought them out.
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>>85610138
>I really wish we could have even one Trek thread without you ignorant /pol/ tourists.

build a wall you fucking bigot
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>>85610138
This is not a uniform that commands respect.
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>>85610302
So it's authentic Star Trek.
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>>85610138
go back faggot
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>>85597703
What the fuck, if this is the full cast, where does the controversy come from?
This is the whitest, most uniform Star Trek cast I have ever seen. Even the black one looks kinda white in this picture.
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>>85610282
>>85610318
>>>The captain is the strong brown woman.
>>Actually, it's the white man.
>What? How dare you correct me? This is my safe space, REEEEEEE!
Wow, what next?

>>>The uniforms in the new series are red.
>>Actually, they're blue.
>What? How dare you correct me? This is my safe space, REEEEEEE!
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>>85610449

you should follow your own ideology and respect people who you don't like
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>>85610438
Ignorant /r/startrek tourists like >>85610138 are casually ignoring the fact that they only released the full cast recently, the only people that were known before the most recent trailer were the asian, the negro and the alien. None of the others appear in the first trailer, as they aren't the focus of the show, as we've known for months, the fact that the first officer will be the main character was one of the first red flags that was known about it.
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can we talk about something else
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>>85610537

it will suck because it takes place in the recent movie universe of star trek
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>>85610497
It's a well-known fact that greater overall tolerance is created and maintained by not tolerating the intolerant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

>>85610537
Here's the real Trek thread:
>>85592834
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>>85610587

well stop tolerating yourself then
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>>85610587
i would like to discuss discovery not a fat riker meme created by a tripfag

actually i think im gonna just play nethack for a while
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>>85610536
>be wrong about something
>call someone else ignorant
Lol.
>insist that it's not your fault that you were wrong wrong
>the whole world was against you and trying to deceive you
LOL!

We've known about Jason Isaacs being the captain since early March. Pay more attention, you Fake Trekkie you.
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>>85597703
Not gonna watch a single episode of this. I'm sick of the endless leftist propaganda.
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Isn't Netflix supposed to be suing the creators of the show for fraud because the lied about it being in the prime universe?
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>>85610747
Discovery discussion is impossible on /tv/ because every single thread gets derailed by tourists complaining that Star Trek doesn't espouse right-wing politics.

And you'll be back after you die on the seventh floor from a swarm of ants.
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Let the series die already, you fucking kikes.
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>>85610814
Prime universe just in name only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcLLfzzKWA&t=0s
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>>85609771
Picard and Kirk were the best captains by a wide margin though.

I'm just getting tired of the stronk independent black woman image the media has been pushing. I don't why pushing half-black women to center became a thing but it's getting in everything. It's bad enough that we've let them pervade every Federal sector position.
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>>85610814
No.
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>>85610849

>right wing boogeyman
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>>85610757
I was just using your post format, "dishonest" would be more accurate because you keep reposting your lies despite being corrected every time.
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>>85597703
how the fuck do I know what rank they are?
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>>85610867
It's in its death throes, the movies are doing worse every time and Netflix won't be tricked into paying for season 2.
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>>85610937
Follow the progressive stack.
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Will there ever be Star Trek kino?
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>>85610912
What lies? He's the captain.

Go ahead and post a source which corrects me.
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>>85610937
Teeny tiny pins on the delta.
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>>85610937
With a microscope (tiny dots on the bottom left of the badge)
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>>85610937
>>85611004
>>85611013
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Seth McFarlane is in the new star trek. This is just more dweeb shit no one will watch. Like voyager.
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>>85609920
Alien characters are better, hypothetically speaking, than "diverse" human characters because they should force writers to think outside the bubble, to portray 'difference' without the easy fallback of contemporary social justice agendas.

Problems arise when they start using those characters as metaphors for irl bullshit, instead of coming up with new situations for them that have nothing to do with any of that. I don't trust modern writers to do the latter; the social justice stuff is too easy and lucrative a fallback.
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>>85610937
They've evolved beyond your patriarchal power structures anon.
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>>85610587
>tolerance
>everyone that doesn't agree with me on everything should be silenced
Why are leftists so incredibly terrible?
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>>85610992
Yes
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>>85610937
I told you, we're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to be the captain for the week. but all the decisions of the captain have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting. By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two thirds majority in the case of alien encounters.
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>>85611173
They were (((taught well))).
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>>85610992
That's a stupid question.
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>>85610878
True that, but Kirk and Picard were of their time (50 and 30 years ago respectively). During the TOS era in particular the 'humans in space' thing was a fresh new concept just waiting to be explored, since people irl had only just started going into space.
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>>85606728
God I hope not.
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>>85597703

Ifinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/IDIC

back to /pol/ with you!
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>>85597703
Which one is tinman/Spock/Data/7o9/odo?
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>>85611798
The death sensing alien magician.
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>>85611891
Oh, death sounds cool. I am an edgy autist so at least I have something to look forward to.
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>>85611798
The main character, the negress who was adopted by Spock's dad and is all logical and shieeet.

>>85612024
>7 years
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>>85612055
>7 years now means any opposition to any retarded aspect of nutrek
Reflects rather badly upon DS9 tbpqh
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So is every ST thread going to get hijacked by /tvpol/ or
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>>85612366
As long as they keep pushing diversity I guess. Can't be a smart move to have fans pissed off. But maybe it works better for them than it did for Marvel.
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>>85612366
No Star Trek generals are fine. Not talking about the diversity quota in Discovery threads is ignoring an elephant in the room.
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>>85612434

>As long as they keep pushing diversity

......since 1966
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Maybe it's just a sign of the times, but between the reaction some have to the cast of Discovery and the whole 'Trek Against Trump' thing and subsequent backlash last year, I honestly had no idea there were so many far-right Trek fans. I mean, what show were they watching?! The whole franchise is infused with messages about tolerance, respect, equality, scientific progress, and non-violence except in extreme situations. How can you watch all of that and then shout insults at people who are different than you?
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>>85612586
That is not forced. There were no idea about how it needed to be diversity in everything back then.
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>>85612594
It is not far right to hate this BS. It is not about Sex or race, it is about them pushing their agenda into the things we love.
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Why is the alien in the back posing like that? Is he supposed to be the token gay?
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>>85612685

Dumb waste of space with a shitty back-story.
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>>85612594
Star Trek is a fictional world where there actually aren't differences between races. Reality is different, as places like Chicago and Europe are trying to demonstrate to you.
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>tfw the old version grew on you and the final version has holes in the saucer and retardedly long nacelles
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between the goofy nacelles, "A NEW WAY TO FLY" and the warp effect, is this going to somehow have Transwarp or Slipstream before the Excelsior and Voyager?
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>>85611044
Now that's some bullshit
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>>85612802
>looks like an alien vessel

Lol
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>>85612802
They went full retarded after the backlash of the first teaser. They just had to use the paint and hull plaiting of the new one for the old model and make the warp nacelles just a bit longer, but noooo.
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>>85612916

the wedge part is fine, it just needs ENT/TOS style nacelles and to not be bronze.
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just move the nacelles back a little bit nigga, wtf are you doing

maybe raise them up a little bit too, to hint at the Excelsior/Ambassador/Galaxy pylons.
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>>85613004
And the gimmicky gaps in the dish anon.
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it will be glorius ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9sKeCE8V0
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>>85612802
Where are the bussards?
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>>85613753

on the refit. :/
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>>85613753
circling your life
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>>85613949
Really cracks the pistachios....
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>>85613949

Whuuuuuaaaaaaat?

This goofy shit has really gotten out of control.
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>>85613604

Is it odd that I'm looking forward to The Orville way more than Discovery?
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>>85614539
I'd look forward to it a lot more if it wasn't McFarland
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I have no problem with blacks, but why would they choose such a bitch faced one?
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>>85614672
I'm looking way forward to "The Orville" by Seth McFarlane. It's a Star Trek type comedy in the same vein as Galaxy Quest, and it may even be funnier than Galaxy Quest.
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>>85598028
>Starfeet

Why are his feet 4 inches tall? God damn its just really triggering me.
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>>85614766
Is using someone who's only about 20% """""black""""" worth more diversity points than someone who's actually black? I feel like mixed blacks are becoming increasingly common.
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>>85615126
American """""""""blacks""""""""" are 1/5 European at worst
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>>85598029
I'm amazed that none of these actors are dead yet.
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>>85597703
>prequel
why
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>Lieutenant Spook
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>>85615126
Easy explanation is that light brown is a more pallette friendly color than black.

Black people are harder to deal with in terms of color, shading, and contrasts. They often need special lighting and filters in order for a director to properly express his vision. If Discovery is gonna be the dark, edgy series I'm betting it is, they'll need a light brown character instead.

Also finding attractive full black actors is pretty much impossible.
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>>85615126
Purebreeds are too violent to succeed in life, nevermind Hollywood with the massive attention heaped upon them.
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>>85600773
>Spock was half-human you dweeb

Spock was also played by a white man. Torres was played by a black woman. People back in the 60's also nearly rioted when Roddenberry tried to have a female first officer. What's really hilarious is that the people screaming about non-white non-males in shows today are exactly like the ones who did it back then.
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>>85615970
Pic related. Light brown is a generally easy color to compliment.
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>>85597703
Star Trek has always been an SJW diversity shitfest.
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>>85605402
i hope thats true but i doubt it knowing how networks think they will just cancel it if ratings are low
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>>85616058
Preach it, brother, ever since the 60's they've been shoving this "non-whites and women can do anything more than ruin everything" mentality down our throats and look where our country is now. For fuck's sake we barely survived eight years with a black person in charge and then they wanted a goddamned woman right after it.
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>>85600847
Is it impossible to go one day without cucks obsessed with based /pol/bros
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>>85616142
Nice false flag schlomo.
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>mfw Discovery is superbly well-written and the only problem it might have is the aesthetic
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>>85597703
As long as the leader is a straight white male then I dont really give a shit.
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>>85616257
The leader of the ship is a Jew, the main character is the negro.
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>>85599166
he meant on the bridge. one alien out of the bridge crew is lame.
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>>85615032
His species appears to be digitigrade. Maybe even hooved.
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>>85607979
These were great. Should have adapted them into DS9 or later TNG or something.
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>>85616223
>mfw STD turns out to be complete AIDS suprising no one and utterly destroying any chance of getting a genuinely good Trek series for another decade
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>>85612802
>>85612892
ugh. those interne connects on the rings look so weak. its making anxious and uncomfortable just looking at it.
I thought Star Trek was supposed to be more accurate and shit? How are 4 tiny little fucking bridges going to hold on to that mass that is the outer ring?
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>>85616505

hooves are confirmed.

http://trekmovie.com/2017/07/22/sdcc17-star-trek-discovery-panel-gives-new-character-and-story-details/

>Doug Jones explained that Saru, as a Kelpian, has hooves for feet, and demonstrated his character’s walk. “I’m balancing on the balls of my feet when I walk,” he explained. Saru is 6’8″! His costume, he said, is very snug, and the costumers wanted to pad his flat butt but he said it would make him too human.
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>>85616736
The outer ring is where nonessential personnel live and work.
It can disconnect and and get out of danger once fighting starts.

It's just a shitty design
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>>85616760
Doug Jones as an alien is the most perfect casting ever
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>>85616622
Your opinion could matter if only you'd bother to pay for DSC and issue your complaints to the makers rather than pirating it and bawling like a helpless babe on a backwater imageboard.
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>>85616760
that death alien dude does not look 6 fucking 8
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>85616966
Shoo shoo, no (You) for you.
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Is this autism general? Seems like it when the thing people argue about is how the ships look. I can't think of any more pointless detail to argue about.
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>>85617232
welcome to Star Trek
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The rumor is that this is getting cancelled after the first season and they're moving on to something else.
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>>85617295
Angry white boys ruin everything.
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>>85617232
>I can't think of any more pointless detail to argue about.
Are you retarded? Of course people will discuss the design of the hero ship in a Star Trek show.
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>>85617372

They ruined it themselves by trying to use this to sell CBS buttfucker or whatever it is.
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>>85617232
Anyone who's concerned about ships or models/toys is autistic. There's one guy in these threads who fits that description. He's the worst poster in all of the Trekthreads and, beyond ships/toys discussion, is usually very hostile to every other poster. It's very embarrassing
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>>85617232

the ship is the main character of a Star Trek. except DS9, in which case it's Garak.
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>>85616208
>someone agrees with you
>attack them as well

You people really need to lash out at anyone, even your own side.
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>>85597703
Star Trek has always been diverse. I'm far more concerned they fuck up the tone and art direction to put it in line with the new movies, continuing to alienate the fan base until the property is no longer bankable.

Because they love to do that shit.
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>>85597975
Product of the budget, fuck off

Also wrong
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>>85612594
>what show were they watching?!
TOS and Enterprise, mostly.
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>>85617676
ENT really did turn into the Bush Admin in space
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>>85599166
Saru means monkey in japanese
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>>85617729
No it didn't.
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>mike will defend this
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>>85617952
season 3 did
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>>85597703
Its not as bad as i expected honestly
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>>85617953
Let's wait and watch it at least. I thought Beyond would turn out a horrible train wreck after the trailer and it ended up being a decent movie.
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>>85618008
No, it didn't.
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>>85618087
yeah, the torture stuff was just a coincidence
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>>85598333
You could tell the non white characters were just non white because they happened to be, not because >yo we gotta insert a nigger in a powerful position here
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>>85618191
is there anything more tired and transparent than this lazy revisionist "but they did it different" meme
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>>85597703

>one black woman and one asian woman, all the rest are white, one alien who looks dumb.

This is less diverse than basically all the other trek iterations.
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>>85598333

It's fun to watch them reeeeeee about stuff that they don't even watch, but kind of sad also.
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>>85618112
Name one Star Trek series and one American presidential tenure which didn't contain torture.
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>>85618333
what? dude, season 3 of ENT was a direct response to 9/11 and the Iraq War. what were you 5 years old when that season came out?
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>>85616736
how do you evacuate that area of the ship effectively? how does this design make any sense at all?

why does it exist?
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>>85618377
Oh, is this a child's way of not naming one Star Trek series and one American presidential tenure which didn't contain torture, because the child cannot?
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>>85610497
>Idiots who are blatantly wrong should be tolerated
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>>85611188
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>>85618212
There's no way these people are trek fans. The creators have said plenty of times why they cast non-white characters, and it wasn't random coincidence.
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Who are your Star Trek Favourites?
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>>85617729
>>85617952
>>85618008
>>85618087
>Suliban terrorists out to tear down the Federation before it exists
>Surprise attack devastates a cultural landmark, killing hundreds!
>Enterprise invades and topples an alien sector in response
>Success requires exceeding the bounds of conventional ethics
>Archer clearly got his job because of his father's connections, but he nevertheless rises to the occasion
>Vulcans are reluctant NATO allies, T'pol their token infantry support
>Sinister Andorians turn out to be based Russians, turning the tide against Temporal Wahabis
I'm not even trying here
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>>85618642
Apophenic much? What you've posted is a series of events which have LITERALLY occurred in every single Star Trek series including TOS.
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>>85618794
When did it happen in the other series?
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>>85618909
In the original series, in the animated series, in The Next Generation, in Deep Space 9, and even in Voyager.
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>>85619074
But when though. You're just naming the series, not the actual instances.
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>>85619172
The original series from 1966-1969, the animated series from 1973-1975, The Next Generation from 1987-1994, Deep Space 9 from 1993-1999, and Star Trek Voyager from 1995-2001.
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>>85619310
So you don't actually know? Thanks for wasting our time then.
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>>85597703
What did that female captain do to make Starfleet ban women from ever being starship captains again?
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Daily reminder that Enterprise was the very best Star Trek series ever produced.

It was Star Trek done right.

No faggots
No feminism
No PC
Less technobabble
More realism
More character
Interesting aliens
Solid storytelling

Trektards hate it because it isn't gay enough.
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>>85620408
Nothing to do with GWB either. Not one single thing.
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>>85620408
Stargate does it better.
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>>85597703
.
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>>85620523
Is stargate worth a watch?
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>>85598050
>gross then
>gross now
>>
Rate my janeway impression
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1EhkvKAoZur
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>>85620733
The movie is absolute kino, and the SG1 series is actually even better.
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>>85604713

So just like Muslims then.
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>>85599273
I'm from /pol/ and DS9 is my favorite
I'm sure the new one will be pozzed beyond belief though
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>>85621142


Yup


Just like them.


Different poster btw.
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>>85621033

It has some glaringly cheesy shit in it like complete garbage gun handling and not even using blanks with the guns to save on the budget. It's awful the way you can tell they're jerking the guns around in some misguided attempt to mimic recoil.
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>>85597838
Hehe, just might be.
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>>85598066
Star Wars is BOSS
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>>85598073
Hehe, poor Riker.
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>>85621382
Aw man, the cheesiness is part of the charm. The first five seasons of SG1 is the comfiest show I've ever watched. It's perfectly acceptable if you treat the movie like a proof of concept pilot episode.
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>>85598164
EGGcellent point!
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>>85598175
Oh man, I hope it's better than what you've suggested.
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>>85598211
Hehe, can you imagine if they hired GLENN CLOSE to be the lead?
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>>85598214
Eh... eh... maybe.
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>>85598299
Hehe, snowflake, that's a pretty funny term!
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>>85598347
Whoa, woah, I'm not a nazi or a baby.
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>>85598798
Except getting the show cancelled
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Press F
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>>85598499
Who knows what the future holds???
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>>85598537
Hehe, the world is a crazy place!
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>>85598598
MIND=BLOWN!
>>
Imagine if Hoshi attempted to speak an alien language while sucking my dick!
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>>85597703
The cast is actually whiter than I expected, and I'm pretty sure Isaacs is the Captain while the Walking Dead girl is First Mate, despite being the protagonist

I fully expected a trans crewmember and a Muslim woman wearing a hijab
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>>85598773
Wait, what are you implying here???
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>>85598809
A really decent point... made me think...
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>>85599273
>the only white male not in alien prosthetics would be "that cucked beta" O'Brien.
>irish
>white
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>>85598941
Woah! Whoa! That's super deep!
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>>85597703
>at least two of these crewmembers is gay (or some variant of gay)
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>>85599068
Interesting thoughts! Sometimes I don't think about things like this and other times, I do.
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>>85609757
Thought she was irish?
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>>85621823
>>85621950
>>85621916
>>85621872
stop
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>>85609079
Do you not understand what message they were leading into with the original Star trek cast?
They literally put a Russian in there to show diversity towards the Soviet Union since that show aired during the cold war.
The jap was there to ease tension with the old Japanese bigotry that was still around during that time from veterans. He even goes on a monologue about Japanese internment camps in the old century.
And the black girl was of course there since it was in the era of the civil rights movement

Honestly I thought everyone already knew this about the casting in these shows they all have a purpose to bring light to certain groups of people and gives a vision of what the future could be like, throwing out our race debates and seeing ourselves as human beings and yada yada yada
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>>85618212
>>85618530
Explain why Avery Brooks was the only black actor who auditioned for the role of Sisko then. Only the most lazy of Trek posters are fooled by your blatant lies.
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>>85598073
Why are niggers so racist that they always have to have white women? Don't they find black women beautiful?

Apparently, niggers are the greatest believers in white supremacy.
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>>85622671
>greek
>white
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>>85609613
AntiRacist Hitler
https://youtu.be/v=lKDeyuM0-Og

#openbordersforisrael
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>>85621697
>Europa not Europe
That's nice.
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>>85610587
Harrison Bergeron - A short story about a dystopian future where a government department of equality enforces equality by making handsome people wear masks, forces smart people to wear ear devices that make loud noises and distract them from thinking, weighs down the strong with weights so they aren't stronger than anyone else, and covers up beautiful womens faces so they're not prettier than anyone else, etc. A ballet is performed to enforced mediocrity, and the titular character sees through it all, smashes the weights off of himself and frees the most beautiful ballerina. They're rewarded with 10ga. shotgun blasts for daring shake off the equality. It is a mere 6-page short story that destroys modern liberalism at its core.

http://wordfight.org/bnw/bnw-unit_packet.pdf
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>>85598299
>Special pol snowflake getting triggered

You really have no idea what a "special snowflake" is, other than a pejorative, do you?

LOL@ignorantlibtards stupidly trying to turn the table.
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none of the leads ooze charisma except for isaacs

he's the only thing that's letting me give this piece of shit a chance by watching the pilot

also CBSaccess lol, enjoy my pirate money... wait a sec
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>>85623604
oh and the young black girl being in literal every fucking shot and poster
like fuck off i want the whole crew
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>>85622761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cy9HeM8QQc
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>>85623604
>none of the leads ooze charisma except for isaacs
Shame he's barely appeared in the promotional material. I suspect he won't be in the show much either seeing as he'll be the priciest actor on the roster.
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Daily reminder that STD is what you get when you reject Enterprise.
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>>85623908
I'd have thought you'd like it

>Prequel set before TOS
>Shits all over established canon
>Explosions and titillation to appeal to teenagers
>Will be cancelled quickly
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