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Lets be honest, Riker was shit
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I like the episode where he eats Klingon food.
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>>85592980
I like the episode where Riker cooks food.
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>>85592980
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A Federation Psi Corps would have solved a lot of problems.
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>Star Trekkin' across the universe, on the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk! Star Trekkin' across the universe, only going forward 'cause we can't find reverse.
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>>85593093
>>85593054

Anyone else felt hungry?
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>>85593108
>tfw no episode about the consequences of tuvix melding with suder
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>>85593265
raw food doesn't digest as well. meaning klingons have to eat more to gain the same benefit.
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Just finished Far Beyond the Stars

Why does the guide label it as Great? All it is, is Sisko being butthurt about racism and overeacting to the nth degree
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>>85593300

Clearly human and Klingon digestive systems aren't nowhere the same, given the fact that one of their teas can fucking outright kill a human.
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>>85593318
It's widely considered to be one of the best Trek episodes of all time. If you don't like it then you might be the one who's butthurt about racism.
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>>85593756

I don't know how anyone can enjoy Sisko over acting for an hour
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>>85593792
The majority of critics and fans liked it. Case closed.
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>>85593861

Well theyre all wrong, idiot
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>>85593792
anyone else tear up when they watched the episode where jake loses his dad and can only see him like once every so many years? hit me right in the feels
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>>85593938

That was actually a good episode compared to Beyond the Stars
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>>85592834
B O G G E D
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>>85593792
anyone else tear up when they watched ds9 because it betray star trek and is pew pew for actionbabbies? hit me right in the humanities potential for progress
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>>85592834
Why? He was a competent second-in-command.
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>>85594028
Jordan?
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>>85594028
>7 years
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>>85594028

That was an actually good episode
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>>85593756
>It's widely considered to be one of the best Trek episodes of all time
that sounds like an overstatement. It was fine, but it wasn't anything special.
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>>85595723
>It was fine, but it wasn't anything special
your epitaph
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>>85595723
Star Trek 101: It's one of the "Ten Essential Episodes" from DS9
Cinefantastique: It's the 7th best episode of DS9
The Hollywood Reporter: It's the 2nd best episode of DS9
SF Debris: 8/10 rating
Ex Astris Scientia: 8/10 rating
Jammer's Reviews: 4/4 rating
Playboy: It's the 77th greatest episode out of all 6 Trek series

Some people like it a lot, apparently.
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>>85595769
destroyed
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>>85595769
king crimson reference?
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>>85593108
I thought that was the point of a betazoid.
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>>85595850
>Captain I sense ... obvious feeling you can see on their faces
Yeah, they were extremely useful
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>>85598318
she was just a shitty betazoid
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>>85592834
I know... Just look at his fat fuckin face. LOOK AT IT!!!
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>>85593756
>It's widely considered to be one of the best

By a bunch of WIDE-assed sjw queers who promote the idea that "racism" is the greatest crime against humanity in all of human history, while they simultaneously encourage universal hatred, and the dehumanization and genocide of white people for the color of their skin.
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>>85599436
>>>/pol/
go neck yourself, you're the reason why those threads are getting shittier, that white genocide thing, was ther most off-topic sperging I've ever seen from a poltard and even if it was true, why are you bringing this to a star trek thread also that episode was great, fuck you.
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>>85598318
She was a hapa

>>85595850
It was. Why do you think Lwaxana of all people was a leading Federation ambassador?
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>>85593318
>muh alien characters without the makeup
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>>85599637
remember that time lwaxana stopped a terrorist attack as an afterthought?
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is this the most accurate representation of the star trek universe?
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>>85599820
Tholia is in the wrong place
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>>85599820
what is the void?
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>>85599593
Oh, look... A wide-assed sjw.
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>>85592834
Not as shit as trek threads became after you general faggots showed up.
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>>85593265
>Turnips in cheese

Sounds intriguing.
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>>85599820
The expanse is in the wrong quadrant. The NX-01 could never have made it that far at only warp 5.
Also, where are the Xindi?
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>>85599860
>>85599923
>>85600100
i didn't make it but do you guys have a more accurate one?
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>>85598361

She was half-human, so it wasn't entirely her fault.
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>>85599820
Earth is in the wrong place too, along with a lot of other worlds. The entire Federation is located in the Alpha quadrant. No way it covers that much territory.
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>>85593093
Someone should shoop in a gun
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>>85600175
And point it at THIS!
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>>85592834
Riker the kinda niggah who fucks your woman and make you wanna fuck him
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>>85600206
Well they do say intergalactic travel adds lights years
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>>85600233
Yep. It's a Star Trek thread alright.
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would you?
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>>85599949
Oh, look a namecalling retard
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>>85600353
>ferengi female
>clothes
what?
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>>85600410
It's amazing when you call us racist you are heroes, but when we do it it's namecalling
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>>85600956
I didn't call you a racist m8, I just pointed out that white genocide was slightly off-topic in a star trek thread and that if you wanted to discuss such topic you could go to /pol/ were I'm sure you'll be more welcome. but if you absolutely need a strawman to attack, feel free to act like a cunt
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reminder that this was a thing that happened
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>guy doesn't like one of DS9 episodes
>gets insulted and attacked for having the wrong opinion
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>>85601107
DS9 is perfect. If he doesn't like every single aspect of it then he must, logically, be wrong
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>>85599593
4chan is not for anti-white bigots.
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>>85601190
This is a site for Japanese cultural supremacy
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>>85600140
>>85599820
I had a map from the star trek online game once.
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>That episode where O'brien fucked 12 year old Keiko.
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>>85601525
Miles did no such thing,he rejected her
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>>85601539
You must have watched the censored version.
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>>85601553
Miles is NOT for lewds
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>>85599820
The void?
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>>85601593
Why are you so protective?
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>>85601539
this, he watched someone else fuck her as usual
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>>85600100
Xindi are federation no?
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>>85601090
Literally rewatched that yesterday. The beginning of miles/julian kino.

>the dal rock is here
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>>85601832
THA DAL ROCK WILL NO' TAKE OUR PO-TAH-TOES
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>>85601765
no
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>>85600100
The federation is in both the alpha and beta quadrants you Mong
This map is very accurate
However it's missing the discoveries that voyager made in the delta quadrant
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>warp driving is damaging space
>this totally isn't about car pollution


fuck this episode
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>>85602488
>Worf says the Klingons will abide by the Federation's limitation on all ships doing Warp 5 or less

Fuck you Worf, you dumbass piece of shit
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Who is Ira talking about?
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>>85603056
Presumably Harris Yulin
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Admit it /tv/, who doesn't want to break off a piece in fat riker?
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Season 7 of TNG has some really wacky episodes
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>>85603056
who the fuck is Harris Yulin
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>>85593339
You're probably right, but their directive tract would have to be closer to something like a cow to get significant nutrients from raw food like humans do from cooked.
Just as an example, cows have four stomachs and use a fair amount of energy breaking down their food between chewing/grinding and then the digestive processes complex digestive processes that have to follow.
Cows then have a pretty good amount of brain function dedicated to involuntary systems for digestion that use even more energy.
Species that eat cooked food retain more nutrients and calories from their food, require less energy to digest it, and are able to provide a surplus of energy for higher cognitive processes and devote less grey matter to GI systems.
So, it's not because the Klingons are Brown that they're retarded, it's their consumption of uncooked food.
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>>85603577
Presumably the guy who played the Cardassian
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Bought a comm badge on ebay and now I'm getting loads of random Trek recommendations

Just seriously considered buying a replica of gold-pressed latinum

This is how addictions start
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>>85599820
Wrong
Cardassian space shares a border with the Romulan Empire
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>>85603978
lies
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>>85603978
how can they still exist then?
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>>85599923
Probably the area with no Stars from Voy 5x01- Night
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>>85603990
Go listen to Dax's explanation of how The Dominion surprise attacked them in In The Pale Moonlight.
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Data's mom would have got it HARD when she was younger
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This is Elim. Say something nice about Elim.
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>>85605135
Looks like quite a plain and simple tailor to be honest
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>>85605135
A spy, an assassin, and a saboteur
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>>85605223
Surely not, he seems so friendly
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>>85600266
And plus she's greek
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>>85605250
Some would say too friendly.
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>>85605322
Unless you have that signed pic of Dax or your tits, fuck off
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>>85600206
>>85600266
>>85605262

Olive oil, not even once.
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>>85592834
>Lets be honest, Riker was shit

Indisputable best #1
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I want to hold down Ezri's small body and fuck her senseless.
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Riker, his sexual organs inquired about.
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is it illegal to fuck holo kids in the holo deck
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>>85593318
Brooks throws his full crazy into the role in that episode.
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>>85605563
The 24th century is so progressive that pedophilia is accepted in society.
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>>85593339
Is that a plate full of kimchi & chicken feet?
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>>85599820
>the federation is 10k ly long
Yeah, no. Standart warp 6 is like x350 lightspeed and warp 8 is x1000 so by this map, Sisko woul've travelled like 5-15 years from Earth to DS9.
Pic related makes more sense.
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>>85605700
The Federation is canonically 8000 light years wide.
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>>85593938
That was because of the acting of the vastly underrated Tony Todd.
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>>85605745

you federation so fat, not even transwarp Janeway could cross it in a single lifetime.
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>>85605135
Looks like a humble gardener, nothing more
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>>85594041
He constantly flies off the handle if someone mildly annoys him. Especially if it's Ro Laren.
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>>85605828
I hated Ro Laren, she was a total cunt
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>>85599805
By Mick Fleetwood no less.
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>>85605828
Ro was a fucking criminal
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>>85605848
>she was a total cunt
Could've just said Bajoran
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>>85605700
space is fucking big
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>>85605745
>canonically
And canonically, the Enterprice would take 15 years to go from Earth to Qo'nos
The writers are too retarded to make the universe make sense by dropping random technobabble without making any effort to make it believable.
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>>85605876
muh 6 gorillion
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>>85593756
Pretty sure that was 'In the Pale Moonlight' that was considered one of the best Trek episodes of all time
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>>85605893
>Star Trek contradicts itself all the time, the universe doesn't make any sense, and the writers are lazy/stupid
Congratulations. I mean fuck, to just use your example of Earth to Qo'nos, according to Enteprise the distance is less than that to Alpha Centauri. Let's not even talk about Into Darkness.
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Discovery is going to be great

just look at this sick-ass Mek'leth
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>>85599820
okay guys then what about this map?
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>>85606016
It can't be worse than [insert your favourite Star Trek here]
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you know, back when i was in /trek/, we would follow every OP with a meme
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>>85601090
>Wasting this picture
Fuck you, seriously.
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>>85606444
your memes are no match for my speed
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what a funny looking alien
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>>85606375
Captain, tell us about these memes of yours. Are they dank?
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>>85606045
>Capital
>Paris, European Alliance, Earth
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>85606529
guest starring tig notaro
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>>85606529
Commander, tell me about your bajoran workers.
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>>85606571
Isn't Notaro that Chinese cartoon ninja? He was in an episode of Star Trek?
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>it's a Riker gets arrested for killing a guy and raping a woman episode
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>it's a Riker gets raped by a hornball alien nurse episode
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>>85606532
sicker than a j'naii with a a craving for commander cock
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>>85593318
I thought it was a good episode and they obviously put a lot of effort into it but it just felt out of place and not very star trek-y.

The real kino is when they return to Benny at the start of the last season when he's in the mental asylum, in order to do which it was necessary to have this episode in the first place
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Here's a challenge /tv/, let's say the Discovery writers want to do an episode about Donald Trump's presidency, but they want to be as subtle as they possibly can be

How would you do the episode?
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>>85606746
That sounds fairly sick. I'm going to have to beam your memes directly to the medical bay.
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>>85606839
Federation president wants to revoke membership from any system that doesn't pay their fair share, and demands starfleet militarise the Fed borders

It ends with the Vulcan MC killing him because "building walls" is not logical, and she gets a funny shaped future medal for it.

Zoe Saldana is made the new Fed president at the end
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>>85606858
Lieutenant, tell me about your superior intellect.
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>>85593318
There's one scene where he has an episode talking to cassidy and theres this great shot where he goes from his quarters in DS9 to his apartment in harlem in one shot.
And every captain needs to have a few "what is real" existential crises. Picard had his second life where he played the flute, voyager had the doppelganger voyager that didn't know they were fake.
It builds character.
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>>85606966
Chief, tell me about your paddy wagons.
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>>85606977
>voyager had the doppelganger voyager that didn't know they were fake.

kek, except in that instance they forgot about it 10 seconds later and didn't seem to even give a fuck during the whole thing
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>>85606980
beam this post into space
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>>85606839
You don't, seeing as nobody in Star Trek will have any idea who he is outside of archaeology and history institutes due to WW3/Eugenics wars/post-nuclear horror. And that's even if you move forward Star Trek history, which they shouldn't.

Anyway, they already did it, watch The Undiscovered Country.
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>>85607059
>You don't, seeing as nobody in Star Trek will have any idea who he is
You colossal idiot.
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>>85607059
> seeing as nobody in Star Trek will have any idea who he is outside of archaeology and history institutes due to WW3/Eugenics wars/post-nuclear horror.

That was retconned by Enterprise showing Bush and Blair, who are supposed to have been in their premierships during the eugenics wars
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He was good at pulling his shirt down over his disgusting spare tire.
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>>85603592
>cows have four stomachs and use a fair amount of energy breaking down their food between chewing/grinding and then the digestive processes complex digestive processes that have to follow.
Thats because they eat grass, which has garbage nutritional value without a specialized digestive track. People can survive on raw vegetables and meat just fine. We did it for tens of thousands of years. Cooking meat wasn't so much beneficial because it aided our digestion, but because it kills off germs and parasites.
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>>85607059
>implying there won't be a USS Trump which gets blown up by the IKS YA'AS Q'UEEN
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>>85606839
it would use the vulcan/romulan situation, which is obvious because of the logic vs emotion thing they've got between them. an exceptionally orange romulan fights a political battle against a half-vulcan, using scare tactics and lies against a progressive (female) opponent. this all leads to the earth-romulan war somehow
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a koo chee moya
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>>85607108
That's the problem with having a "near future" event. Time eventually catches up. Look at back to the future 2, or escape from NY.
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>>85607233
I really doubt Gene Coon thought Star Trek would last 25 years when he wrote that though. And those examples aren't comparable because as far as I know they aren't writing any new Back to the Future or Escape from * movies that it would contradict.
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>>85607233
A shit ton of apocalypse movies from before the late 90s were set for 1999/2000. Idiots believing that pointless numbers have power have always been great for profit seeking people.
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>Discovery takes place at the same time as The Cage
>Literally looks nothing like the Cage
>They don't even try
>And the damn Klingons look different too

Anyone else tired of this shit? I figured turning Khan into a whitey would make them realize not to fuck with this shit any longer.
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>>85605604
I think my issue is I just hate how Brooks acts, it's so terribly offputting

He comes off as the weakest member of the crew acting wise
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>>85607333
Having Spock fistfight Khan while screaming obacenities on top of a flying train really was captured the spirit of the original series.
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I love this fucking badge

Why the damn fucking hell didn't they use t in main continuity, it's sick as fuck.

I might get someone on etsy to make me one
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>>85607377
Yeah, just like Dr. McCoy using human blood in a fucking tribble.
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I thought the front of the Klingons was bad enough, jesus christ I just saw them in profile, they have a >tfw too smart elongated cranium

wtf why did they do this
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>>85592834
Holy shit, I didn't know Ron Perlman was Riker.
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>>85607471
Don't forget the big red ball of space magic.
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>>85605604
he's crazier in the one where he's some atlas shrugged inspired bond villain
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>>85607497
Because they can't leave shit well enough alone. Klingons are the bad space aliens so they make them more and more grotesque with each form. It was fine in TNG era, especially with ENT giving us - thank goodness - a reasonable, canonical account for the change.

Into Darkness Klingons were ridiculous, and this looks like its building off of that in regards to the stupidity involved.
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>>85607746
I wish they had stuck with the TNG Klingon look, it's literally perfect
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>>85607746
>>85607853
Reminder that it wasn't TNG that changed them, it was The Motion Picture in 1979 because Gene finally had the budget to do it how he always intended to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbG3N51MEjM
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>>85607434
Dude, just make your own. They're literally just popsicle sticks glued behind a toy star fleet badge.
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>El-Aurian on DS9

They're the guinan aliens right?
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>>85605609
I always thought there was something odd about Neelix and Naomi Wildman, especially after Neelix being in a relationship with a 1 year old.
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>>85608124
That's the one. Not a great episode but I liked that they fleshed out the species a bit.
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>>85605954
There's more than one episode considered to be among the best.
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Colm Meaney is a Meaney
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War time O'Brien versus Garak, each get 48 hours prep time

Who wins?
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>>85608558
As soon as the battle stars, O'Brien and Garak's bombs explode, destroying the battle arena, killing Garak instantly. O'Brien was a transporter chief for years and got out in time.
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>>85608663
Garak also escapes in time. In fact, he was never even there.

The only casualty is Julian, who they were both using as a hostage.
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>>85608558
I'll assume the DS9 station is the battlefield since that's where they both reside. O'Brien wins because he's in Starfleet and knows the inner workings of all the technology there which he uses to his advantage
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>>85608770

>O'Brien wins because he's in Starfleet and knows the inner workings of all the technology there which he uses to his advantage

You do know the station was built by Cardassians, right? Garak was part of the obsidian order, he wouldn't go down easily.

I'd bet on O'Brien as well though. That IRA experience isn't something Cardassians can just mess with.
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>>85592834
He was there to keep the Kirk Spergs on board.
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>>85607983
THEY'RE NOT POPSICLE STICKS
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>>85608770
>>85608884
Garak knew the tech when it was created, he doesn't know what O'Brien has done to it over the last 7 years though, nor what he can rig up with it in the next 48 hours.

>ATTENSHUN SPOONHEAD QUARRY, IF YE DUN KILL YERSELF IN THE NEXT FOIVE MINUTES, DE STATIONS TRUSTERS WILL AUTOMATICALLY ACTIVATE, NAVIGATIN US INTO DE STELLAR WIND DAT'LL TAKE US STRAIGHT TO CARDASSIA PROIME, WHERE I'LL CRASH YE! TINK OF DEM [air quotes] INNOCENT SPOONHEADS WE'LL SMUSH
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>>85608558
I mean, this happened canonically when Garak was under the influence of those drugs
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Any of you guys been over to /r/startrek at all

It's shills, right?
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>>85609211
Of course they are shills
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>>85609211
Everyone who disagrees with you is a shill. And there's nothing wrong with you browsing /r/startrek, you shouldn't be ashamed at all.
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>nobody ever talks about TOS
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>>85609888
If we're being honest, there's not much to talk about. Love Scotty though, never got enough screentime.
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>>85609888
>implying people here have even watched it
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>>85609888
TOS is overrated. Only a handful of episodes are worth watching

fucking fight me nerds
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>>85611241
nah you're right
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>>85601408
i think the japs fell and broke their culture about 70 years ago
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>>85611241
It's about 25% really good episodes, 50% alright episodes & 25% utter shit.
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>>85611241
For its time it was highbrow as fuck and extremely "happening", but the messages are very simple for people born after it came out. You have to remember that 67 was right in the middle of the hippie era, the cold war, and soon after the 50s segregation stuff. People only had three TV stations and still fully believed in the jingoistic nationalism pushed by the government.
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>>85609181
impressive, i read that whole thing in his voice perfectly
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>>85611670
I, for one, believe in jingoistic anti-nationalism and grew up in the 90s loving TOS. So, not all TOSers.
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>>85611558
>It's a decent episode gets padded out with a dozen reaction shots of the same thing over and over again
The Corbomite manoeuvre was the fucking worst for this. How many times do we need to see this glowing space discoball
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>>85610179

I loved the one episode where he got to sit in the Captains chair
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>>85611670
>People only had three TV stations and still fully believed in the jingoistic nationalism pushed by the government.
That sounds terrible, thanks for putting a stop to it, (((Hollywood))).
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>>85611670
>he doesn't think the UFP even in TOS isn't jingoistic af
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>>85611746
There's nothing wrong with believing whatever you want to believe in, I only meant that at the time it came out there weren't many other views than the bog standard you still got on TV, it was absolutely stagnant from 1950-1967, then TOS happened and it blew people's minds because the message was basically "lol whas good niggas, fuck all that government approved leave it to beaver shit, what if SPACE COWBOY, who is friends with Russians, AND makes out with aliens and even negresses?"
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>>85611832
It was shit and stagnant, what we have now is just about as bad though. Actually It's practically identical.

Social Justice and modern day progressivism is the literal antithesis of 60s progressive attitudes.

Back then the message was everyone was equal and everyone should be judged on their merits and ability. Now progressives demand that the very first thing you take into account about a person is their race, then sex, then orientation, then religion, then any disabilities, then apply a bunch of victim labels to that person, and assort them in a victimhood heirarchy. Next they demand that all cultures be kept separate and never mingled to preserve cultural purity and prevent "appropriation". Finally, they are actually demanding resegregation of colleges, which will likely spread to businesses and other places.

Modern day progressivism is an exacting parallel of 50s white supremacy, and it is an absolutely abhorrent ideology.

>>85611862
It was, but it was still opposing the popular jingoism of the day.
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>>85595769
Well, the jerk-store called, they're running out of you!
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How much do you think CBS paid for 2000 upbazingas?
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>>85611965
Boomer here. I always expected Chekov to betray the crew. I think most people thought this, that's why the actor transitioned so well into Bester on B5. Same character different context. Also, as far as I recall, Kirk was forced to kiss Uhura, he didn't do it of his own volition. So, maybe your view of history is a little skewed. Not sure, buddy. Anyway, let's all agree that niggers and women don't belong in Star Trek.
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>>85612189
>perhaps I received too good an education in the 1930s schools I went to, because I knew what proportion of people and races the world population consisted of

lmao, was Roddenberry always such a pretentious cunt
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>>85612335
Still kissed the black lady
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>>85612189
>having not been taught that there was a pecking order people, a superiority of race or culture
>no pecking order of culture

What the fuck is the federation in contrast to his klingons or romulans then

Did he even understand his own series?
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>>85612472
>>85612367
Roddenberry is George Lucas, it was all just a fluke that his invention was successful
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>>85612335
He wanted the kiss in. Executives demanded two takes, one where they didn't kiss, and Shatner crossed his eyes at the camera so they couldn't use the alternate take.
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>>85612522
Kinda true, the original characters he wrote were good, but all the stories he wrote with them were terrible and the franchises were only saved by them being surrounded by competent people. The only difference is Gene didn't live long enough to demonstrate it to everyone as clearly as George did with the prequels.
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>>85605954
you do realize "one of the best trek episodes" means there could be more than one?

>>85599436
you just confirmed it's you who has a problem with racial stuff, not Sisko in that episode xD
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>>85612335
>Boomer
>still on this website

Tell me what you did in life so that I can avoid the same fate.
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Complaining about Star Trek being socially progressive is like complaining about an airplane for having wings. It is the central ethos of the entire franchise.
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>>85612673
But this progressiveness annoys me
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>the Admiral is Locke from LOST

wow
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I think it's funny that Trumptards are using the term 'social justice warrior' as a pejorative, considering this show is about warriors who are often fighting for social justice.
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>>85612642
Made way too much money in a field that computer hobbyists, ham radio types, etc. adored. You learn things that way.
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>>85612784
Lol upvote, remember the time kirk punched the gorn for being a misogynist?
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I'm gay. I've been a fan of Star Trek most of my life. I watched episodes of Next Generation every day after school for years. I'm thrilled we're finally getting a gay character. Star Trek has a big lgbt fanbase and I'm sure many of them feel the same way. It's a big deal.
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>>85612784
>>85612673
>I am a mindless drone, enslaved to the popular beliefs of modern times, because I was taught to not think for myself or question the opinions held by the majority

See >>85612059
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>>85612848
Yeah you seem gay
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>>85612784
Just using the term SJW deflates their argument, imo. Just an alt-right political slur at this point.
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>>85612812
Fug, I'm already doomed, I repair old electronics for a hobby. Obsessed with 70s flipclocks especially.
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>>85612784
I think a lot of those people are actual Star Trek "fans", but our fandom has a huge issue with double standards. Some people think their favorite series etc. was the best and that any new stuff is crap, even when it's covering the same themes. It's like they become irrationally blinded by double standards.

And especially, it doesn't help that the Trek fandom has ALWAYS had a toxic fringe that hates on any new Trek before it's even out, and claims it's garbage regardless of actual merit, once it's out. It's been the case with each Trek series etc. since the beginning. That toxic fringe among the TOS fans tried to get TNG cancelled, the TNG fringe hates on the new movies and claims they're bad despite how successful they are or how we wouldn't even have a new TV series without the success of the movies etc., and so on before that.

So I'm pretty sure there would be toxic "fans" hating on DSC no matter what, but the current online propensity towards negativity & hating things before they're even out probably isn't helping either.

The worst is when such "fans" spam their hate online so much that mainstream people pick up on it and think the hate is representative of the fandom as a whole. It just gives all the fandom a bad name. :(

Most fans fully support CBS's Star Trek: Discovery, and will be watching with eagerness and hope for the future.
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>>85612848
You trannies disgust me, why are you even watching a show about a time when your kind has been cured?
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>>85612724
he pulled one of the best guest starring in whole trek universe
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>>85612928
Obvious CBS troll posting isn't funny btw, take it to a thread actually about that shit.
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>>85612946
Let me stop you right there.

See, part of the problem is that, for a lot of people even mentioning that some people have faced challenges in life because of their race, gender, LGBT status, etc., is just dismissed as "self-righteous virtue-signalling." Even using the phrase "virtue-signalling" to describe those who dare acknowledge these problems indicates that, in your mind, the only reason someone would want to talk about those problems is because they want to have sex with the people they empathize with.

A real appreciation for diversity does not just mean a show "prominently features characters who happen to be women/brown/LGBT/etc." Merely "featuring" somebody is one thing - ie, casting a black captain. But when you take that black captain, send him back to mid-20th century Earth and have him get the shit kicked out of him by white police officers for no reason, or let him explain to Kasidy Yates that he's uncomfortable visiting a nostalgic casino program because the era from which this 'nostalgia' comes was a time of white dictatorship from the perspective of black people, that's actually talking about diversity. That's doing something meaningful with diversity. That's advocating for a cause, not just waving your hand at it and hope it goes away if you have enough people with wrinkly noses or blue faces.

"Insulting and unnecessary lecturing" would be a good way to talk about it if you're the kind of person who thinks that mentioning that being black, or being LGBT, presents certain unique challenges in life is "self-righteous virtue-signalling." Those of us who want to actually champion for diversity and talk about real social issues, however, would prefer not to be talked to as if we're "insulting" you by telling you that racism, homophobia, and the like are still real problems faced by real people.
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The idea that Star Trek isn't preachy is just not true, and that's one reason I love it. Picard often got long monologues explicitly stating the moral lesson of the episode, and they were spectacular. But, yes, preachy. The other shows were similarly preachy.

There were plenty of episodes that were explicitly or implicitly about tolerance for "others". It was a major part of the message from the beginning. One example that leaps to mind is the TOS episode about half-black/half-white aliens who were sworn enemies of each other.

It's diversity for diversity's sake. And there is NOTHING wrong with that.
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If you ever played Star Trek Online, you'd be shocked by the volume of xenophobic, racist, homophobic people in their chat
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>>85613067

I think the weirdly large uproar when they portrayed a lesbian Klingon couple was funny as fuck, especially considering nothing else was focusing on it besides a single line of dialogue.
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>>85612928
>DSC

Way to out yourself, marketer.
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>>85613108

Oh! I really would love to see more casual mentions of non hetero-normative/"non-typical" relationships and identities in Trek. TV tends to either cast a bunch of white males with one or two minority characters or a female character (usually a white female, because a minority woman is too confusing for the writers and audience /s) or make the fact that the characters aren't white and male the center of the show.

The best moments in Trek are when we get the "In the future, no one cares if you are bald" type reactions.

That said; is STO worth playing? Or is it as toxic as your comment might suggest? I've already got a CBS All Access Account just to watch the new Star Trek Discovery.
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>>85613067

Kill all spoonheads
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>>85613153
I enjoy the game and would recommend it to anyone interested in a Trek game, and as for toxicity, it's mostly confined to zone-wide channels and can be mostly avoided in its entirety.

Glad to hear someone else has got an All Access account too, no doubt we'll be accused of being shills by the trumptards soon.
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>>85613067
>videotoys
>a MMO at that
Totally shocked
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>>85613190
>Glad to hear someone else has got an All Access account too, no doubt we'll be accused of being shills by the trumptards soon.

Uch, tell me about it. If we want more ST content we're going to have to pay, and I'm happy to support CBS in their endeavours...and piss off a few pissbaby trump supporters too haha
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i just finished TNG, what should I watch next?
or is everything else shit compared to it
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STOP COPYPASTING POSTS FROM REDDIT

STOP REPLYING TO POSTS COPIED FROM REDDIT
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>>85613270
Well you should have just finished season 2 of DS9, so keep watching that and then when it overlaps with Voyager, kick off to that too
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>>85613190
Not him, but I intend to pay to see the new Star Trek too. I want to support Star Trek being made. If I don't like it, I'll complain -- and my complaint will have purchase because I'm a paying customer.
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>>85613270
DS9 is a sequel to TNG which starts during Best of Both Worlds, watch Star Trek: Generations before DS9 S04E01, it's shit but important for the story. Other than that, First Contact is good which you can watch any time after they get the new uniforms in DS9.
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>>85613349
>>85613381
appreciated
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YAAAAAAAAAAAS my CBS All Access account was activated today!!!!!!

Who else here hyped for this shit?
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>>85613369
>maybe if I eat the shit long enough, they'll give me real food instead

Are you the same fag who says this shit about Stargate Origins in those threads?
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>>85613381
>>85613349
lol, why are you guys so fixated on the past? Are you Trump supporters too?

We're trying to discuss Star Trek: Discovery in here
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>>85613381
>watch Star Trek: Generations before DS9 S04E01, it's shit but important for the story
not that much since it just mention the destruction of the enterprise to justify Worf comming to DS9
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>>85613432
This is an all trek thread

Tere's also a Discovery thread over here >>85611044 if you like
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>>85613419
Why are you calling DSC "shit" when you haven't even seen an episode yet? Why are you in opposition to new Star Trek being made?

Haven't we all, as legitimate Star Trek fans and not shills, been waiting with bated breath for a new Star Trek series to come about? Why then would we not try our hardest to make it succeed and also use our purchasing power as consumers to shape it so that it reflects our will and desires?

Stay on the sidelines if you like. Don't pay for new Trek. Also shut your mouth and don't complain because your voice doesn't count.
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>>85613483
>Haven't we all, as legitimate Star Trek fans and not shills, been waiting with bated breath for a new Star Trek series to come about? Why then would we not try our hardest to make it succeed and also use our purchasing power as consumers to shape it so that it reflects our will and desires?

Exactly this.

I'd go so far as saying that if you haven't already purchased your CBS All Access account you should be banned from these star trek generals.

Sign up today: https://www.cbs.com/all-access/
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>>85613483
>Why are you calling DSC "shit" when you haven't even seen an episode yet?
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>>85613433
Exactly, and if you haven't seen if you won't know what they're referring to, thanks for spoiling it for that guy though, your post was really helpful.
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>>85613533
Stop replying to obvious bait.

God damn it.
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>>85613533
>false analogy
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>>85613571
oh my, I spoiled a 20 years old bad film, I surelly shatered the heart of that poor anon if he is reading me: sorry if you intended to watch it m8
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>>85613817
i did but I don't mind, if I was trying to avoid spoilers I wouldn't be browsing the thread
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>>85592834
The Riker in an Asylum episode is amazing though
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>>85592834
Where do I begin with Star Trek? I've always wanted to watch it but lots of it seems like a waste of time. Any guides about what's worth watching?

Also, how does it compare to Firefly? Loved Firefly.
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>>85614058
>>85614058
Original series or TNG. If the Original is too campy for you just go to TNG. First 2 seasons of TNG sucks too.

Have fun.
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>>85614058
TNG first. A lot of the fist season is gash so feel free to skip episodes that look really dull.
This overlaps with DS9 so watch it alternately and then carry on with DS9
DS9 overlaps with Voyager so do the same again
At this point you can either wait to finish Voyager before watching TOS or mix and match if you like.
ENT is chronologically first but is based almost entirely on callbacks to the other shows so must be viewed last
You can watch TAS after TOS if you want, but it's not great. Then marathon the movies and Discovery last.

It's not really like Firefly because you're siding with the big interplanetary government instead of literal criminals, but the themes may be similar at times. Problem is Firefly owes a lot to Star Trek in it's existence, so you're sort of doing this backwards
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>>85614288
>DS9 overlaps with Voyager
Only in the most trivial of senses in that the pilot starts on DS9 and it references a major plot point that happens during DS9, but there's no reason you can't watch Voyager when you're done with DS9 except that you won't have anything to look forward to at the end of the episode... actually yeah, interleave them.
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>>85614058
it's very different to firefly wich I would describe as a space western while star trek is more space opera like, as for a start I would prescribe TNG on the shaky ground that the 2/3 first seasons suck. However the serie get better and you start to like most characters. TOS aged even more poorly than TNG first seasons but it is still watchable and it have a couple great episodes. this is a guide for TNG but I advise you to watch it all because some season 1 episodes are hilarious due to their cheesyness. and when you feel like it watch DS9 it's best star trek and everyone that say otherwise as been scientifically proven wrong.
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>>85614384
I meant release dates. Same with DS9/TNG which also only crossed over once.

The advantage is that you get the good last seasons of the previous show alongside the gash first seasons of the new show in both cases. So it's not quite as much of a chore to get through as the start of TNG.
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>>85614395
and I posted the wrong guide, sorry, here is the TNG one
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>>85614058
I'd save yourself up for Star Trek: Discovery, it'll go over all the basics, don't get spoiled with old "trek" and potentially put yourself off
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>>85614395
>Rivals
>Bad

I'll kill you, I swear to god
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>>85614479
You don't even have to get that far

>Move Along Home
>Bad

That's how you know a pleb made it.
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>>85614543
>Brooks desperately trying to act like that wasn't the most fun he's ever had

A very mentally unstable man
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>>85609181

underrated. Put me in the screencap
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>>85614543
>>Move Along Home
>>Bad
>>That's how you know a pleb made it.
reminder these are the "people" that say that the first two seasons of TNG were bad
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>>85614543
Thankfully we won't get any of this embarrassing stuff in Star Trek: Discovery

It won't be unencumbered by a poor budget, I'm looking forward to more space battles.
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>>85599820
Why is space flat in Star Trek?
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>>85614739
I'm more excited for The Orville to be honest
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>>85606016
that's so over-produced it's not even funny if that's suppose to be a functioning weapon and not some cheap ceremonial piece you hang on the wall
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>>85614739
Looking forward to The Orville, actually.
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Let's be honest Star Trek was shit
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I liked the xindi arc and thought it was really well done
I also wish there was a s5 of enterprise that covered the romulans and the future man
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>>85614848
Then do I have some good news for you anon
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>>85614739
>I'm looking forward to more space battles.
>it's okay when ds9 did it
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>>85614848
>>85614898
that DS9 sacred bat'leth looked better
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>>85614825
>>85614858
Looks like the Trumptards are out in force today

Star Trek: Discovery is going to be good, and you're going to like it
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>>85607746
it's simply for fluff, they know the writing will suck so they're doing every cosmetic thing they can just to add pointless crap it's all style no substance come to life, kinda like Bayformers
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>>85614948
I voted for Trump and bought a CBS account in anticipation for Discovery, which is going to be fun

What now hombre?
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>it's a Quark bit off a little more than he can chew episode
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>>85614927
DS9 space battles were boring and unemotional, don't pay attention to them.

I'm sure that Star Trek: Discovery will capture the spirit of Star Trek's ship-to-ship battles, as well as looking sleek, clean, and 21st Century.
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>>85614989
>DS9 space battles were boring and unemotional
>implying
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>>85614969
Glad that there's another Star Trek: Discovery fan in the house!

I only dislike Trump supporters who bash Star Trek: Discovery, your politics don't matter as long as you're supporting the creation of new Star Trek contact.
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>>85614948
I joined ICE and deported over 150 people and I'm a proud CBSAA subscriber. Still, The Orville seems like it's gonna be pretty good.
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>>85615024
Glad to hear it

You also hyped for The Orville?
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>>85614543

I hate this episode with a passion and I completely don't understand the people who like it.
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>>85615065
Because you're a miserable cunt who can't enjoy anything unless it's gritty and """dark"""
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>>85615045
Well as long as you're not critical of Star Trek: Discovery's production as many bigots are.

>>85615058

No. Seth McFarlane is a misogynist and anti-semite, I would not recommend watching his show.
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>>85593276
Hehe, that would have been a super cool episode.
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>>85615097
Imagine being this much of a shill
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>>85593915
Doubtful!
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>>85615065
Agreed. Hopefully we won't see any of this silliness in Star Trek: Discovery, and since its production has undergone a long listening process with fans of the show, I doubt we will.
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>>85593756
It's shit though
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>>85594017
...or was it? Hehe
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>>85614977
>Take possibly the shittest recurring Star Trek race and make one an MC in your new show
>Turn him into a top tier character with some of the GOAT trek episodes/scenes

The absolute mad men

How did people handle it when a Ferengi main character was announced?
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>>85615172
I don't think it's fair to bash people who appreciate the nuances of racial politics being a part of Star Trek.

Hence why I am looking forward to Star Trek: Discovery.
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>>85615065
Were you molested while watching it?

>Star Trek characters are forced to compete in The Crystal Maze by a race of aliens that love games because the bartender cheated them at Space Roulette
It's a fun episode and it was nice to see some aliens that they didn't understand at all but accidentally had a good first contact with anyway. What the hell is there not to like about it?
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>>85594020
Pretty freaking weird, hehe.
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>>85615194
It's Armin Shimmerman, people went nuts for it.

By that point the Ferengi were already a laughing stock.
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>>85599593
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>>85615219
>What the hell is there not to like about it?

It's boring, the colors are dull, and it's liked by Trump supporters who are pining and clinging to the past instead of moving forward.

We won't be seeing any more un-fun episodes like this in Star Trek: Discovery, that I am sure of.
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>>85594055
Hehe, you never know...
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>le Star Trek Discovery le le le le xDDD
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New rule: no more responding to the pretend STD shill

Fuck, even that Bashircunt is better than this
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>>85594064
Haha, that guy has been posting for 7 years, hehe.
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>>85615295
It is sad how many people here are trolling against Star Trek: Discovery, isn't it.

Are you looking forward to Star Trek: Discovery too? Most true fans of the series that I know are.
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>>85615312
I'm sorry you feel that my passion and enthusiasm for Star Trek: Discovery is worsening the quality of the thread. But I am certain that there are multiple people here who are sharing their enthusiasm for the new series and their distaste for the haters and trolls here.
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>>85615372
There is a separate Discovery thread

This is for completed trek shows only
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>>85615389
Do not try to police me or people like me who are appreciative of a new Star Trek series, specifically, Star Trek: Discovery.
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>>85615389
No Enterprise allowed too
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>>85593318
>>85593756
>>85593756
>>85599436
>>85599593
>>85599949
>>85600410
>>85600956
>>85601055
>>85601190
>>85601408
>>85611381

AntiRacist Hitler
https://youtu.be/v=lKDeyuM0-Og

#openbordersforisrael
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Fuck it, I'm not posting in the next thread

The fake shill officially made it not fun

Well done asshole, you win
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Imagine making a show about star trek except it's just a satire and it actually turns out to have better set design than the actual new star trek show

Imagine hating Seth because he makes jokes you don't like..

Seriously nothing against the new trek it looks pretty interesting but bashing Orville just because it's gonna compete for your shows audience is fuckin sad.
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>>85615471
I am not fake nor am t I am glad that you have been driven away from this forum by people who are happy with Star Trek: Discovery. You do not belong here, you are not a real fan.
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>>85615471
Yay! :)
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>>85614977
>it's a tfw no Kira gf episode
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>>85615502
Seth Macfarlane is a hack, no true fan would watch his content. Everyone here is eagerly anticipating Star Trek: Discovery, why aren't you on board?
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>>85615536
iktf

>You will never bomb spoonhead schools with Kira
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>>85615329
>>85615372
>>85615431
This is Shatner, isn't it?
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>>85615537
Translation:

I am a shill being paid to post about discovery, please stop ruining my rate of pay
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>>85615134
The shill is Shatner. I'm almost sure of it. He's probably invested some of his shekels into STD, and is worried about losing them if the show tanks.
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>>85616384
Shatner hates STD. There's a tweet of him shitting on the SOCJUS people shilling it.
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>>85608474
>I'm IRA
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>>85616523
One tweet? Really?
Only one?
Where is it?
Show me.
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