Dunkirk

>>85564648
Greatest normie filter in a long time

But they didn't even fight them on the beaches, they fled en masse

That's the irony

>that moment when the spy turns his head on the bridge

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>>85565106
forgot pic

>>85564648
This movie suuuuuuuucks

>>85564648
>"And we’ll fight them with the butt ends of broken beer bottles because that's bloody well all we've got!"

>>85564648
>We shall bomb them like cowards and let the Soviets do everything else

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>>85565455

>>85564648
>will the boy be alright?

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Hitler could have massacred those 400 000 thousand soldiers and utterly destroyed the allied fighting capacity.

Instead he told his men to stand down in hopes of reaching a peace agreement with the English, as he had done so many times before.

What was the first thing the English did after Hitler had spared them their lives? Start firebombing German cities, roasting hundreds of thousands of innocents Germans alive.

In his final hours Hitler remarked on the fact that he had "given Churchill a sporting chance at Dunkirk, only to be repaid in this way".

NEVER trust a Saxon.

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>>85565915
>innocent
>Germans
HAHAHA get fucked Kraut.
>>85565655
Do it again Bomber Harris!

>>85565915
>only to be repaid in this way
What, his capital being invaded by endless hoards of Russians? while he shits himself in a concrete bunker?

>>85565655
>>>/his/

>>85565655
Do it again Bomber Harris!

>>85565915
>innocent
>germans

pick one

>>85566242
salty kraut detected

>>85564648
This bit was fucking awful. Nolan can't write for shit.

>>85566278
About as innocent as the british can be trusted desu.

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>>85565915

>>85565455
It's not like Churchill had any love for russia in the first place.
It was winston himself who dragged his feet on an invasion of europe so the british could secure and persue english ambitions in the Mediterranean while europe burned.
FDR and Stalin were both getting fed up with Churchill's shit after africa.

>>85566327
>Sir Arthur Harris painted here with the flames rising from Dresden visible in the background.

Really bland movie. Bad editing but interesting sound design. Watch the old movie it's much better.

>>85564648
this was cringy as fuck, it was supposed to show the difference between reality and propoganda, if those lines genuinely moved you, you need help.

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>>85565455
this lol

>>85566327
Are you really that retarded?

The English declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Hitler wanted peace with the British empire. Hitlers only desire was to exterminate the communists who were threatening to turn Europe into a soviet mega-state.
The Soviets had 30 000 tanks in their ranks, if Hitler had not decided on a preemptive strike we'd all be living in kulaks.

He literally saved us all.

>>85565915
There is so much bullshit in this post I don't even know where to start.
The german lines were over extended and at the end of the supply chain. The german army was regrouping their forces and consolidating. The french were still in the war at this point and could have flanked a disorganized and ill prepared german line.
All the while the Luftwaffe was bombing the shit out of the beach. Those guys on the beach lived long enough to retreat because many of the bombs burried themselves in the sand without detonating.

>>85566544
>attack people for no reason
>get destroyed in return
>h-he saved us
inb4 more greatest story never told propaganda

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>>85565655
absolutely perfidious

>>85566640
>attack people for no reason

Wow. You really are retarded. You probably even think the war began with Germany invading Poland.

The war began when Czech communists started massacring Christian Germans in a place called Sudeten, which historically was a part of Germany but had been under Czech communist control since WW1.

Hitler first asked the Czechs nicely to let the Sudetens flee to Germany but the Czechs refused and continued to slaughter the Christians, that's when Hitler invaded.

Does that seem like an invasion with a reason?

How would Americans act if, say, Canadians started massacring Americans?

>>85565655
>The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put that rather naïve theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now, they are going to reap the whirlwind.

>>85566779
Americans don't give a shit because they're fat and stupid and smell like doodoo

>>85566544
The British had a defensive pact with Poland against Germany you tard. By declaring war on Poland, Germany declared war on the UK and France. Germanys fate was sealed when Hitler declared war on America (although they hilariously had no means of waring war on America)

>>85566779
you read that on daily stormer? the austro-hungarian empire was not german land retard
hitler wanted the land, not the refugees

>>85566544
Why would russia want to install friendly governments along their european borders?
Historically western Europe has been super cool with russia. Certainly no sort of history of constant agression and multiple wars fought on home soil.
Germany has been trying to conquer europe for as long as the state has existed. Thats why Versailles was so harsh on them. Everyone was tired of their faggotry and were trying to remove their ability to be a threat to the continent.
As is so often the case shit didn't go according to plan and it directly contributed to the rise of nazi's.
The plan after WWII was to try to again make germany pastoral so again they could never be a threat to europe.
Part of the reason the berlin wall went up is because Truman was a retard and decided to reneg on the agreement and began arming and rebuilding german industry. Stalin saw this as setting germany up to be a fucking problem AGAIN. So they built a wall to keep those faggots out.

>>85566779
So true! And then the Poles started killing ethnic Germans too! No lie!

>>85564648
>"I ain't no fortunate son."

>>85566382
>living in kulaks
I think you mean living like kulaks in the gulags

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>>85566949
>>85566835
>>85566779
>>85566544
>>85566437
>>85566413

>>85564992

The beaches of Britain you fucking autist

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Frogs will never understand this feel.

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A film that /pol/ will NEVER understand. Keep swallowing 60 year old propaganda, LARPers.

>>85566879
Bohemia was literally incorporated into the German kingdom forming the Holy Roman Empire. That's why there were so many Germans living there.

>>85567100
The feel of jumping back to your island when shit hits the fan?

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>>85566779
>/pol/ believes this

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>>85564648

>"The Operation...Is it over?"
>"Its done, Kirk."

jfc Nolan. really? really?

>>85567215
The feel of overcoming a setback instead of immediately surrendering

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>>85567296

>"At last, we have become The Dunkirk"

Fucking Nolan.
Walked out of the theater right there and then.

>grenade blast goes off near characters
>loud ringing noise drowns out all other sounds
>"REEEEEEeeeeeeeee................he dunkirk!"
>"WHAT?"
>"I SAID HE DONE CROAKED, WHAT ARE YOU, DEAF?"
bravo nolan

>>85564648
t. Butthurt skinhead Neo Nazi

Is CIA in this movie?

>>85564648
>largest air battle in WWII
nah, how about just three planes
>Nearly 300 civilian boats mobilized voluntarily for the rescue
nah, how about just 20 or so and we make it seem like universal conscription
>surrounded by Nazis and running out of ammo
nah, don't show any nazis. opening paragraph should be enough

>>85564648
>dunks doughnut too fast
>splashes coffee
>irks nearby soldiers
>they have dunk irk?

really nolan? REALLY?

>>85566620
So much delusion in one post. The French is lost the moment the German broke through Sedan. Gamelin himself called Churchill that morning to told him they are going to surrender. Churchill was a kike shill that drag Britain to a war when they could have peace.

>>85568512
You do realise the film was following a number of people throughout the battle of Dunkirk, not trying to show everything that happened, right?

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>>85565655
https://youtu.be/3_QY3xsLQNI

>>85565655
do it again bomber Harris!

>>85568990
>not trying to show everything that happened
more like actively misrepresenting the event

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The wrong side won

>>85564648
Nazis did nothing wrong though

>>85569338
>98 year old veteran who was at Dunkirk says it was very accurate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc4wBfh3lwk

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>>85569390
>>85569416
oh boy, here we go

>>85565915
>Instead he told his men to stand down in hopes of reaching a peace agreement with the English, as he had done so many times before.
never heard so much nonsense in my life

>>85569498
watch the greatest story never told, pretty sure that's the cause of all this horseshit

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what did he mean by this?

>>85565915
They bombed Berlin once calm your tits

>>85564648
"Aces High" starts playing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9aQvjMS60

>>85567218
Fuck those shitlords..hitler single handedly gassed 6 million jews wtf..show some respect

>>85566437
It was suppose to show that there was hope and that the British will never surrender under any evil.

>>85569461
try reading about dunkirk
i'm sure the old salt thought the feeling of being on the beach was accurate
the events portrayed were thinly inaccurate
get back to this contention after you have read something instead of watching all the banner waving

>>85565655
Do it again bomber Harris

>>85565915
>Germans
>Innocent

I know this is hard for someone of your low breeding to understand but truth is all Germans are evil. They have been a thorn in the side of the white race for far too long. The only notable instances of the German subhumans affecting history has been to the detriment of the white race: collapsing the Roman Empire, rebelling against the Catholic Church, inventing communism, invading Belgium, massacring white merchants with u-boats, bombing Anglos, and inviting heretical sand-people in the white lands.

The pathetic "Ayran Masterrace" has no achievements of its own, and seeks to destroy all civilization so their impotence will be less apparent.

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>>85569814
>I read a book
>Now I know more what it was like than actual Dunkirk veteran

>>85569783
it's propaganda to keep morale high, yeah

>>85569814
it wasn't attempting to be a documentary you fucking mong it was about the experiences of individuals during the event, which it did very accurately. it didn't misrepresent shit

>>85569904
>If you keep morale high, the enemy wins

>>85569904
>The truth
>Propaganda

I know Wehraboos are delusional mongrels, but you do understand that Britain didn't surrrender, right?

>>85569872
>98 year old senile attentionwhore
i would never trust a guy on his word after he's passed the age of 90

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>>85569853

>>85569982
>>The truth
ah, forgive me for forgetting the brits fought germans on the streets of dale and coventry
you fucking retard

>>85569989
Glad you made it clear how much of an idiot you are.

>>85569928
Like anon said: "largest air battle of WWII"
The movie did indeed misrepresent some things. Anon is right about the civie boats too.

>>85565915
>Instead he told his men to stand down in hopes of reaching a peace agreement with the English, as he had done so many times before.

No he didnt dumbass. theres a reason the german airforce was bombing the fuck out of the boats

>>85570078
Except this was when people feared a German invasion of Britain so it was plausible to be fighting in the streets at some point, you uneducated, bottom-feeding nigger

>>85569904
Not everything the government says is propaganda. Churchill said that from the bottom of his heart.

>well this isn't going to be funkirk!
Are you fucking serious?

>>85570348
WE WUZ THE BRAVEST

>>85570348
don't reply to my post if you aren't going to reply to my point, the anon i was replying to was being retarded, your post has nothing to do with mine, even though i do agree with it

>>85570078
Eyydhdxbjszbjfzfh

>>85570078
>"We will fight the enemy in the streets if that's what it takes!"
>German subhumans fail to even get that far

Haha wow such liars.

>>85570078
Suibstiddngezvjgzxfybxsf

>>85570463
Churchill's speech is not propaganda you fucking retard.

>>85570078
Ayudsgiddhjssbjhdckoorsshtscbtdjbss

>>85570491
>>85570539
>>85570581
What did he mean by this?

>>85570078
Fujcdh sdjxzdhhscnlgdxvjh

>>85570617
Mobile temper tantrum.

>>85570617
autistic tantrum
probably because of the don't reply to my post bit lmao

>>85570617
See
>>85570463

>>85570580
>aimed at soothing english minds despite the conditions being terrifying
classic propaganda m8

>>85567367
"Where are we going?"
"Dunkirk"
Really Nolan?

>>85566307
It's a famous Churchill speech you fucking retard.

I cried twice in this movie. First was when the civilian boats came to Dunkirk and second when the pilot flew over the cheering soldiers in the beach.

>>85570078
StyhsdvjkussvbibssfbxfjnzKm

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>>85570726
>Pilot asks Collins and his dad about how they understood dodging the strafing 109
>Collins says his older brother was a Hurricane pilot before he died
>mfw realizing he lost his older and younger brother

>>85570690
>>85570671
That ain't me m8.

>>85570716
So is every speech propaganda now? I really doubt he was trying to further some agenda. Also telling the people that the country might be fuck isn't really trying to keep the peace.

>>85570917
The boy that died wasn't his brother. I think it was just a friend of the kid.

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>>85565655
do it again Bomber Harris

>>85570726
Are you serious? Both of those arent even close to being tearjerker scenes.

>>85571274
He is probably British. However the speech by Churchill at the end had me tear up

>>85565712
The boy is no good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjz-YRBZfG0
Sincerely hope every British city turns into London.

>>85566949
>Part of the reason the berlin wall went up is because Truman was a retard and decided to reneg on the agreement and began arming and rebuilding german industry. Stalin saw this as setting germany up to be a fucking problem AGAIN. So they built a wall to keep those faggots out.
Never go full retard

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It's so fucking sad that you guys can't form a single coherent buzzword-free sentence about an actual film other than the usual "KINO PLEB REDDIT IMDB" namedropping, but if it's politics or some whatever surface-level moral or history subject than you all passionately/autistically reply to each other with whole essays for posts along with all the statistics and links needed with it.

>>85564648
Any other kinos like Dunkirk that the majority of sheltered NEET cucks on here can't relate to?

>the british footsoldier's name is tommy

Don't tell me, the BF109 pilot is credited as Fritz, right? And the guy flying the bomber is Jerry?

>>85564992
He meant the beaches of Britain when they were surrounded you tard and they never had to because Germany got BTFO in the Battle of Britain.

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>>85565655
do it again Bomber Harris

Reminder that at that point the Germans steamrolled through every country they invaded in like 10 minutes. Even France, the great land power of old and again the great land power in the 1920s, fell in a month and a half. Barbarossa didn't happen yet so Churchill was getting ready for the worst, knowing if he held out longer than a few months he'd be the first

>>85568804
A peace that would of jeopardized liberty and democracy in the world. It was a noble cause to stop the unrelenting German war engine that would of never stopped otherwise.

>>85565915
So much delusion in one post. Germany has ever since the antiquity of the Roman Emprie been hellbent on the destruction of Europe. Hitler is no exception.

>>85565655
do it again Bomber Harris

>>85565915
Except that's fucking bullshit. If he wanted peace he would've moved in and captured or killed the BEF. Forcing the British to surrender, it was due to incompetence and the French rearguard not Hitler wanting to be a good sport.

>>85566779
>herder, it part of highly loose germanic cultural borders dating back to the highly volatile boundaries of the holy roman empire so the germans have the right to say its mein. Also going to need some sauce on that shit about the communist killing the czechs, I know the Sudeten was more Germanic than slavic but youre feeding shit.

>>85564648
>There goes the siren that warns of the air raid
>Then comes the sound of the guns sending flak
>Out for the scramble, we've got to get airborne
>Got to get up for the coming attack

>>85574618
I love Metallica too

>>85571679
It will thanks to the Germs importing millions of migrants into Europe you dope.

>>85564648
We shall flee from the beaches
We shall avoid the landing grounds
We shall eschew the fields and the streets
We shall never surrender only because the vagaries of geography has made it so a full scale invasion from the Germans is an impossibility.

>>85565655
Do it again Bomber Harris

>>85571679
>Esoteric Truths

Ha ha, memes

>>85565355
stupid

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>>85565712

>>85564648

>we will stop Hitler so we can be replaced by Pakis
>we will stop Hitler so we can live in a Police surveillance state

I'm thinking they fought on the wrong side.

>>85574929
>please Hitler come back to invade and occupy my country so we don't have faggot parades in the streets

>>85564648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN3yrJP24-I

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>>85565455
The soviets were allied with Germany at the time.

>>85574929
Hitler would replace the white race with Germanic mongrels. Nazi victory would've hastened the death of the white race.

>>85574929
Yes let's give away our culture and independence to a country that runs on a plunder economy and throws away scientific/technological advances because they came from the wrong person

>>85575045
lol go to bed ahmed

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>>85575069
>>85575045
>>85574984

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Glad we beat Hitler so our country could look like this! What a victory!

>>85575267
>>85575277
>"grrr how dare u leave eu now u cant be forced to genocide whites I wish hitler won so brexit is illegal grrr"

Germanic filth love watching their women get ravaged, as there is no heritage or culture of worth that is being destroyed.

>>85575277
Implying I disagree with the image

Doesn't stop me from believing you Nazi larpers are deluded and need to fuck off my board

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>>85575277

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>I wonder whos behind these anti-dunkirk posts

>>85575568
Shut up.

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>>85575551

Yes, people who disagree with you are the real problem. Not the ones gunning you down.

>>85575568
>actually believing catholicism > protestantism
>"suck the pope's dick and fuck little boys cause celibacy is hard" is a better system than "figure out on your own what the bible means and work as hard as you are able"

>>85575662
>Continental faggot accidentally memes against his shitty landmass

Nice blunder, empirelet.

>>85575669
Id rather have a degenerate elite than millions of dead europeans caused by schisms.

>>85575669
>"God's truth doesn't matter, it's all up to your interpretation"

Leave it to the kraut subhuman to be the post-modernist. Just because you have no heritage to be proud of doesn't give you the right to destroy everyone else's.

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>>85575751

>>85575792
>wanting less dead people

Wew so controversial

>>85575662
The other ones would be gunning us all down too if my grandma and grandpa didn't kill 10 million of them then occupy their country for 50 years to make sure they wouldn't try again, all while Uncle Joe put a second army behind them to shoot them in case they even thought about running away

>>85575827
For barbaryans it is.

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>>85575874

So you'd rather be genocided by your own government?

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>all these spastic subhuman naziboos screeching
fantastic thread

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>>85569634
great guy

>>85566779
holy SHIT /pol/ is fucking nuts

>>85575785
Oy vey I wish I could come from a line of hairy slobs who grew up having the Padre shove his 10 inch baguette into my holiness

>>85565915
Friendly reminder that Hitler sent men to negotiate peace (not surrender, peace) with Britain and they just imprisoned him and hid it from the rest of the government.

>>85569634
>>85575971
>Mongrel opinions

Are we going to ask for the livestock's perspective as well?

>>85566779
Never forget the czech and polish death camps

>>85565712
>'no he has a left hand as well haha'
jesus CHRIST nolan

>>85575977

The causes of the Nazi Regime and Hitler's hatred for Jews are largely lied about in your leftist-controlled education. You just accept it as truth blindly.

>>85575964
No, which is why I'm neither a communist nor a Nazi

>>85576024
Instead you come from a line of hairy brutes who grew up hating white civilization.

>>85576059
And where do you get your information?

>>85576026
Hitlers "peace" was an absolute joke. After seeing Hitler break every peace treaty that Germany signed and knowledge that invading poland would cause another world war he did it anyway.

And whats the end result? A lot of dead europeans. Naziboos really are the thickest cunts on the internet who are incapable of thinking outside of their dumb ideaology.

>>85576174
youtube videos and the daily stormer

Wasnt France the biggest reason Dunkirk was a succcess?

>>85576174

Read actual history, not heavily censored/revised versions of it taught in Marxist education camps.

>>85576203
yes

french got slaughtered while england retreated

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>>85576186

>burns millions of women and children alive
>we're the good guys and ur dumb naziboos

>>85566779
>You probably even think the war began with Germany invading Poland.
Here are the facts: Hitler signed a document with Chamberlain that would ensure Poland's future. He also promised he had no designs on Europe.
He lied and sowed the just reward.

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>da evil joos are keepin the aryan man down

*chimp out and starts another war*

>>85576262
Dresden was payback dumb stormweenie.

Reap the fucking whirlwind

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Anglos are really good at turning humiliating defeats into victories through propaganda

>>85576223
That's not an answer. What specifically have you read?

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>throws away the british empire
>ussr still gets half of europe

made me ponder

>>85576328
>Wehraboo accidentally describes his MO

>I'm smarter than you which is why I believe fringe conspiracies instead of accepted historical facts
>My oneitis is a slut so I want a government that'll make her stay at home and serve me
>Modern day fashion sucks so I want the government to also offer me the opportunity to wear trench coats and kill people and get paid for it
>I'm physically weak/fat which is the result of the libcuck government feminizing me rather than being an undisciplined slob

>>>/pol/

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>>85576358
>the actions of current day politicians is because we won world war 2

This is your argument.

>>85564648
I went in wanting to love this movie but the whole thing felt like a slog. Touching ending but a why was the movie a character story when the characters were so dry that no one could be brought to care about them? Also, Zimmer dropped the ball hard, most grating and obnoxious soundtrack I've ever heard from him. Very disappointing.

>>85576358
>>ussr still gets half of europe
There is something the West doesn't always get:
Russia wants buffer states.
See: Napoleon, Hitler.

>>85576491
Agreed on most points, a constant indeterminate buzzing is not enough to keep me on edge, Nolan.

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>"A frog! A bloody frog!"

What did he mean by this?

>>85576358
If you've ever looked at a physical map of Europe you'll notice it's hard to get into Russia from any direction except the west

Russia has often mitigated this by having someone else (before: Poland, now: Belarus, to some extent Ukraine) in the way

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>>85576341

I've read a large range of books on the subject. I suggest you do the same. Hitler didn't start hating Jews out of thin air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

The Russian communists committed the greatest genocides during WW2. But you never have anyone talk about it because your film industry is owned by the very people who carried out those genocides.

I can't really break through your indoctrination by naming a reading list. I have to tell you to investigate for yourself.

>>85576032
No, Europe should have been burned and the US should have taken over as rightful heirs

>>85570717
>What do you see?
>Home
>What have you seen?
>Dunkirk
Why are Nolan's scripts always so literal

>>85566872
>Germany's fate sealed when declared war on America
>Yankees really believe that they won the eastern front and not, you know, the country that liberated Berlin
Even fucking British people understand the soviets did more than burgers

>>85576203
French and Belgians were mainly holding the back line to start because de Gaulle refused to let them on to the transports until the 4th day of evacuation. When Belgium surrendered British troops were moved to replace them and ended up holding about half of the line
Around 100,000 evacuated were french, who were then either sent back to fight again for another few days, or joined the free french army.
Don't be fooled though. 70,000 British soldiers died defending the beaches, compared to 20,000 french. 40,000 french soldiers surrendered.

>>85576637
>I've read a large range of books on the subject.

Which books?

>>85565655
Do it again Bomber Harris!
>>85565915
>Innocent
>Germans
Pick one and only one, kraut

>>85576547
EE TOOK THE YOUKNEEFOM OFF AN ENGLUSHMAN I BET HE DEED

>>85576358
>ussr gets half the europe
>brits lose their whole empire which controlled 1/4 of the world at one point
>fade away as a superpower and get replaced by USA
>get reverse colonized by pakis and pajeets
>the country is becoming orwellian 1984 more by every year
>weekly terror attacks
>london gas white minority
B-but we won!!!

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>>85576647
>liberated Berlin

>>85576682
Why? So you can get them censored? Fuck off.

>>85576637
>>85576341
>You need to study it out, anon.
Ok what books? Where should I start?
>I can't help you man, you're too indoctrinated.

>>85576699
>This guy winds up drowning in oil
>German plane comes barreling down and sets everyone on fire
>Crashes his plane
>The fire rises
>With no survivors
It's like poetry. It rhymes.

B R A V O N O L A N
R
A
V
O

N
O
L
A
N

>>85576761
Ah, what a deflection.

>>85564648
>Runs away

>>85576761

He thinks that book-burning is ok if he's the one burning them.

>>85576719
>Britain used to be great, now its shit
>Germany used to be shit, and still is shit

You don't win by being consistent, Thag Smashwhitey.

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>>85576768

Look, I know what game you're playing here. Anything I list you're going to immediately shout THAT IS A FAKE SOURCE I WIN.

I've realized that you're a lost cause. I can tell you to investigate for yourself because there's a small chance you'll learn something. But I'm not going to stand here and let you reinforce your own biases.

>>85576262
>millions

>Be G*rmany
>Chimping out over getting destroyed in the last war
>"We needs mo space for livin, GIB POLAN"
>Invade Poland
>Britain and France fulfil their defensive pact with Poland and declare war on you
>"WTF STOP FUCKING GANKING US REEE"
>Actually beat both Britain and France against all odds
>Think you're invincible
>Ally with Japan and Italy
>Get destroyed by the RAF and fail to invade Britain
>"SHIIIET WE NEED MO LAND NIGGA"
>Declare war on the USSR
>Declare war on the USA
>Declare war on all of South America
>Get your arse completely and utterly ravaged by the USSR
>Get spitroasted between Britain, USA and the USSR
>"REEEE THEY STILL FUCKIN GANKIN AND OPPRESSIN US GERMANS"

>70 years later
>Obese underage Americans fawn over you

>>85576647
The USSR doesn't capture Berlin without Lend Lease. It just doesn't. The reason the Soviets were able to put their whole industrial power to making armor and guns was because America was giving them everything else.

The Western Allies also could have captured Berlin before the Soviets if it hadn't been agreed at Yalta that the Red Army would do it.

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>>85576761

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>>85576761

>>85576890
>Americans
>he thinks it's just Americans

also, nice strawman faggot

>>85576820
If to have colonies is what makes one great, then perhaps it was never so great to begin with.
Having colonies is just Roman thinking.
And Rome saw its ass anyway.
Soooooo that's not the way forward either.

>>85576888
>Look, I know what game you're playing here. Anything I list you're going to immediately shout THAT IS A FAKE SOURCE I WIN.

The irony

>>85576719
>3 of the 15 former soviet republics and almost all the Warsaw Pact members are now in a military alliance with the US
>english is the lingua franca of the world

How did we not win

>>85576358
Hooray instead of pakis shooting us in the street we would have Germans doing it instead. Damn I wish we lost the war now.

>>85576963
praise KEK! shadilay!

I wonder if hillary supporters will be this whiny 76 years after the election

>>85576888
>Look, I know what game you're playing here. Anything I list you're going to immediately shout THAT IS A FAKE SOURCE I WIN.
Most likely as it's almost certainly bullshit anyways.

>I can tell you to investigate for yourself because there's a small chance you'll learn something
You right anon, it's ME who needs to study it out, let's see what kinda of REAL FACTS we can uncover.
>hmmmm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
>Well, would you look at that.....
Result

Allied victory

>>85564992
that speech was made after Dunkirk assuming you're not baiting

>>85576647
That's not the point dumbass. The point is that it's literally impossible to win a conventional war against the US. As soon as Hitler declared war Germany's defeat was guaranteed, whatever form that defeat took.

>>85566779
Goebbels is that you?

>>85576980
US really won the ww2 and the cold war. Britain really didnt. It is now Americas bitch. Thats my point.

>>85577021

Wikipedia has a heavily leftist bias. They're leftist propaganda.

>>85570990
Jesus fucking Christ you college dropout mong. Propaganda isn't an inherently negative or pejorative label. It just means furthering the agenda of a government - in this case, national morale and unity in the face of a terrifying threat. If you heard about propaganda from more than a Texan grade school history textbook you'd understand things better.
>t. historian

"we must be very careful not to assign to this deliverance the attributes of a victory. Wars are not won by evacuations."

Churchill knew it was a defeat, but it was pretty much as good as it could have been

>>85577181
im a historian and you're completely wrong

>>85576973

Hey I understand what you're about. You won't research, you won't critically analyze. You just want to autistically screech and reinforce your indoctrination. Every statement you've made is an attempt to do this.

Get. Reading.

>>85577168
>Wikipedia has a heavily leftist bias. They're leftist propaganda.
>about a historical event

>implying reality has a leftist bias

>>85577235
I don't think you know how bias works. go back to school.

>>85577181
>>85577221

>arguing from a position of authority
>intellectual

Choose one brainlets.

>>85577168
Its an encyclopedia.
When reading an article which you suspect is biased, check the sources.

>>85575014
The soviets were allied with Germany literally weeks before they invaded and steamrolled Berlin? What the fuck are you thinking lol

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All I could think of was how much this nigga reminded me of Rik Mayall

>>85577274
>autism
>able to detect sarcasm

choose one autist

>>85577232
Ok, which books?

>>85577232
>Get. Reading.
Sure, where can we start? What would you suggest? What was the thing that pushed you over the edge and made you see the light?

>>85577076
It's like being the father of the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. You're indirectly responsible for what happens.

Despite all the waves of immigrants, European or otherwise, the US is still rooted primarily in English culture.

>>85577235
There can be a bias in history according to who is telling it. One person can right about history and say something like "The Malcavians, having been oppressed throughout history, formed a political group that finally gave them the rights that all humans deserve." while another person talking about the same historical event can say "The Malcavians thus formed a radical political group that influenced large scale attacks on the citizens of the country, forcing new laws to be enacted through blackmail." Perspective means everything.

>>85566949
>Certainly no sort of history of constant agression and multiple wars fought on home soil.

Sounds like you're talking about France. Germany is baby tier compared to the amount of shit France has started across history, they got away with it too.

>>85577332
nah, if I tell you to read more books it means I win the argument because everyone knows more books = more intelligence.

>>85577286
No they were not.
See Stallingrad.
Also see Mein Kampf.
Hitler was very clear about what he had in mind for Russia.
The original pact between Russia and Germany was a sham and both parties knew it.
Both needed time for preparation.

>>85577273
this
>>85577278

>I don't think you know how bias works.
I don't think you know how airborne operations work, anon. Come to think of it neither did the Germans.

>>85575591
>Posts a Swede

>>85577426
they were you spaz.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

>>85565655
do it again bomber harris

>>85574698
>retreating only to win the war later is bad somehow

Salty kraut detected

>Full scale invasion is impossible

Yeah it's impossible to invade over the Channel thats why the Allies never recovered Franc-oh wait

>>85577437
nice change of subject from a retard who thinks Wikipedia and reality are the same thing.

>>85577522
sour kraut*

>>85577426
At least the US didn't enter a literal TREATY with them (or German for the matter). How is it possible for both sides to try to backstab each other only to have both sides eventually BTFO by a completely different nation?

>Both needed time for preparation.
Somebody should have told Stalin that, or Hitler.

>>85571760
underrated

>>85577426
I was telling him he was wrong. The question mark was incredulous. I agree with you because I'm not s burger fed moron who thinks defensive pacts for non-industrialized economies count as communists suddenly being friends with their literal political economic opposites

>>85577425
>>85577332
>>85577335

Jesus guys. You're like babies. You won't seek any knowledge for yourselves.

>>85577485
>Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact
Oh God now I have to go and reference Mein Kampf a second time. Remember the word: Lebensraum regarding Russia.

The German intent preceded the Pack by almost a decade and a half.
Russia was buying time for the inevitable invasion it knew was coming.
Germany required time to prepare for Krieg and didn't want to take on Russia just yet.
It suited both parties at that time.

>>85577527
>Wikipedia and reality are the same thing.
They are, I mean, they both say the Axis got BTFO.

>>85577730
>I was telling him he was wrong.
I get it, I was just adding information.

>>85577834
Oh okay it was unclear but I agree with all you said yeah

>>85577782
>Russia was buying time for the inevitable invasion it knew was coming.
The one that took them totally by surprise? That invasion?
>Germany required time to prepare for Krieg and didn't want to take on Russia just yet.
Invaded with more donkeys and horses than trucks and cars. WHAT AN INDUSTRIOUS PEOPLE.

>>85577778
>tfw to intelligent

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Germans went crazy after they lost WW I because of the propaganda being distributed all over their country, making everybody think that they basically were already occupying all of Europe and suddenly they lost because of politicians. This is actually called the "back stab" because many subhuman Krauts literally blamed bankers, the Jews and politicians for the loss; this idea and phenomenon influenced a lot Nazism.

Now, imagine being a German during the final stages of WW II, living in propaganda dominated Germany, thinking New York was destroyed and that the final victory was imminent, and then seeing a British - USA aircraft above you. Literal despair.

>>85577866
>The one that took them totally by surprise? That invasion?
When a situation is pregnant, you still don't know the exact hour of its birth.
Is it a coincidence that the Russia's tank manufacturing plants were in the East of the country?

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>>85564648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwaJcZnR7us

;___;7

>>85571760
>actually talking about movies

Wheredoyouthinkyouarerightnow.jpg

>>85577782
>Germany took the time to prepare to pack everything but their winter coat
>Russia took the time to make less guns than they have soldiers
sounds like they were both sitting on their ass until Hitler sperged out about lebensraum

>>85566779
>/pol/ actually believes this shit
HOLY FUCK HAHAHAHA

>>85577985
>When a situation is pregnant, you still don't know the exact hour of its birth.
Except when the doctor has induced labor and is telling you you're about to pop.
Stalin has literal troves of intel people and his generals telling him the same thing. He chose not to heed it like and idiot (like Hitler, misery loves company).
>Is it a coincidence that the Russia's tank manufacturing plants were in the East of the country?
Not really, when a lot of the steel they received came from the US.

>glorious nippon attacks a country 10 times its size
>in an act of impotent autistic flailing germany dosen't abandon them to their fate but also declares war ot the biggest economic powerhouse on the planet
>almost a century later their fanboys are still butthurt they lost

>>85578295
It's as pathetic as the confederate flag. The flag of the CSA and the axis powers are the flags of LOSERS

>>85578295
can we at least agree pearl harbour was fucking bait?

>>85578347
what was your prize for winning?

>>85571760
subjects that are discussed more deeply than film and film making here:
modern politics
ww2 and nazis were the good guys debate
marxism and communism threads
morality or existentialism
this place is a joke

>>85578450
stop replying to the threads than retard

>>85578372
Can you corroborate your question?

>>85578450
Modern Hollywood is a joke. The state of this board is just a reflection of that.

>>85578495
the US deliberately stationed a fleet in Hawaii to bait the Japs into making a pre-emptive strike (although they probably didn't expect kamakazi bonzai shit)

I've become obsessed with WW2 aircraft since seeing this film.

>>85577890

Communism was inseparable from Judaism. And they were committing genocide and were staging revolutions in Germany. They had every right to hate Jews.

>>85578612

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Port_Arthur

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Its hilarious to see /poledditors/ get fucking destroyed when they're not in their hugbox

BTFO

>>85578681
Do you have any evidence of the commited genocide?

>>85578755

What exactly got destroyed?

>>85578612
Nigga do you know where japan is?
Do you know how far from hawaii that is?

>>85578837

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319

>communist Jews are starving and killing millions right next door
>communist Jews are staging revolts in your own nation

>>85574653
It's Iron Maiden retard

>>85578849
Their arguments ya dingus

>>85578730
completly unrelated
>>85578899
Hawaii is closer to Japan that the west coast of mainland USA is

>>85576963
Not him but it really is mostly Amerifats that are naziboos

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>>85578681
>Germany finances and supports communist and revolutionary movements in Russia as a way of destabilizing the Empire before and during the war
>after WWI and the establishment of the USSR, the USSR finances communist and revolutionary movements all over the world, Germany included
>"m-muh jews are the cause of communism"

Nice try, Krautboo, you started this fucking bullshit.

>>85578264
"We put an end to the perpetual Germanic march towards the South and West of Europe and turn our eyes towards the lands of the East. We finally put a stop to the colonial and trade policy of pre-War times and pass over to the territorial policy of the future.
But when we speak of new territory in Europe to-day we must principally think of Russia and the border States subject to her.
Destiny itself seems to wish to point out the way for us here." - Mein Kampf
Sounds like fighting talk to me.

>>85578681
>communism and judaism are inseparable
Any actual evidence behind that?

>Also: select the jewelry

>>85579059
Marx was a Jew

>>85578927
Nigga the first link is about russia, and the other link does not mention genocide or mass starvation

>>85579074
can you really not read?

>>85579072
He also had a beard, should be gas everyone with one of those?

>>85579072
That just means that the g*rms are responsible for communism, thanks germany

>>85579042
"But it is our task, and it is the mission of the National Socialist Movement, to develop in our people that political mentality which will enable them to realize that the aim which they must set to themselves for the fulfilment of their future must not be some wildly enthusiastic adventure in the footsteps of Alexander the Great but industrious labour with the German plough, for which the German SWORD will provide the soil."

>>85579072
Neither him, his parents nor grandparents practised the religion, Marx didn't consider himself a Jew on the strict sense and actually shitted a lot on Jewish "culture" and traditions.

>>85579131
yes

>>85579074

Which is exactly why you need to do more reading. Because they're brainwashing you.

>ruin europe forever
>make heroic movies about it
fucking anglos

ITT: naziboos getting BTFO

>>85578681
Then why did communists shut down synagogues as soon as they were in power?

>>85579173
you need to stop reddit spacing

>>85579145
Himmler and Goebbels confirmed communists, born in the same country as Marx

>>85578755
yep. no mods, post history and downvote button to help them, so they lose all their tools that they use instead of arguments

>>85579180
who are you replying to?

>>85569390
>T. Fritz McKraut

>>85579124
I just read it again, the aftermath section does not mention mass starvation or mass genocide, it does however mention the execution of the bolshevik leaders

>>85579198
where's your fucking source?

>>85565915
did you even watch the movie Dunkirk talks with Hitler in the post credits scene

>>85577002
not an argument

>>85578612
the carrier fleet coincidentally wasn't at pearl harbor and kamikaze attacks only occurred at the end of the Pacific war when Japan became desperate

>>85579270
maybe you should read the post again you utter spastic. is English your second language or something?

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Can we all agree that both Anglos and Germans are subhuman ?

>>85576637
>cites YouTube video

>>85565655
do it again bomber harris

godspeed!

>>85579042
>Sounds like fighting talk to me.
They sure did a shitty job preparing for it (or anything for that matter).

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>>85565655
Do it again bomber Harris!

>>85579272
>>bit ly 2uFVbSY

There you go.

>>85579272
Not him, but

http://www.jta.org/1965/08/25/archive/estonian-synagogue-closed-by-ussr-shut-downs-total-360-since-1959

You know, the whole "religion is the opium of the masses" and all that, I know you are brainwashed by /mlpol/ and such sites, but being Jewish is a religion too, you know.

Also, antisemitism was very common during many periods, communism needs an "enemy" and USA was not yet the eternal face of the communism's enemy.

>>85579313
It in fact is my second language
Also, you posted links that you claimed would prove your claim of genocide perpetrated by the bolshevik jews during the german revolution, the links contain no such information

>>85579390
Communist systems generally suck.

>>85579317
>b-but noridcs wuz ancient chinese and greeks and they wuz vikangz and sheet!!! blue eyes > culture and science

>>85579391
Bomber Harris would be an excellent ringname
>He'll do it again! And again! And again!

>>85578950

It's not unrelated. The Japanese attack on Port Arthur mimics the EXACT strategy they used on Pearl Harbor.

>>85579442
All authoritarian systems kinda suck

>mfw they left out the part of begging the Americans to come save them in the movie

You can listen to the speech on Youtube.

>>85565915
sure thing buddy

>>85579037

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

Pay more attention.

>>85567186
Wow!

>>85579335

>provides zero evidence

>>85579433
he said that the murders were "right next door" which an expression which means a neighbouring country i.e Russia.
the first greentext is referring to the first link and the second greentext is referring to the second link but you chose to believe that they both applied to the last link for some reason.
if you can't speak English you shouldn't be on this site and definitely shouldn't be arguing with people when you can't even understand what they're saying.

>>85579593
>still hasn't reccomeded any books to read on the subject

communism always beats fascism

Literally all of human history has shown this.

>>85579653
this
>>85579593
we're waiting, anon

also
>YT vids
i can do that too anon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE3PceU-UqA

>>85579463
the Japanese strategy wouldn't have changed whether or not it was bait, I really don't see what it has to do with the idea that the US placed their entire Pacific fleet except the expensive carriers in one place.

>>85579681

>collapses

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>>85579645
Look at this map, is russia next door to germany?
Also if i read the link he posted correctly, the revolution failed and the leaders were shot

>>85579729
Says a lot about fascism that such a volatile system always crushes it

>>85579780
stop being pedantic, Russia is closer to Germany than your head is to a brain.

>>85579681
communism always leads to fascism
[REDDIT SPACE]
Literally all of human history has shown this