How did this fail so horribly?

it wasn't very good

Because nothing has as lottle appeal as a comedy that isn't funny. Especially when it's riding the coattails of a comedy that actually was funny.

>>85549926
It always happen to me that when I invite a girl to the cinema the movie is fucking atrocious like this one, Japanese wolverine or power Rangers reboot

>>85550763
Power Rangers was okay.

>>85549926
Because they alienated their fanbase and casted a bunch of unfunny women from SNL.

They acted like it was going to be awesome, but instead it was the mediocre piece of shit that everyone thought it would be.

>>85549926
People wanted Ghostbusters 3

>>85549926
It was a combination of factors:
>looked nothing like the original
>bad script
>women aren't funny

This guy explains it pretty well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG83qBuQ_A8

>Fuck you losers girls are ghostbusters now!
>wtf why didn't you watch our movie

wonder woman people saw how Nu-Ghostbusters failed and did not attack anyone for not wanting to watch the movie. This made more people feel comfortable and check it out.

My brother thought it was hilarious

>>85552076
your identical twin brother has down syndrome?

A whole bunch of factors.

1) Before the movie came out, they created a lot of ill will for themselves by focusing on the detractors. Their defense of the movie was "if you don't like it, you're racist and sexist." It really backfired on them and made them look bad, and kind of encouraged people to shit on their movie more in order to just spite them. People like Paul Feig and Leslie Jones would have been smarter to not engage (to not "feed the trolls" as it were) but they couldn't help themselves.

2) Tying in to that last point somewhat, they made it political. The whole selling point of the movie was "feminism, YAY!" Now, most people really don't care either way, they aren't going to turned away from theaters just because it has feminist ideas but, on the flip side, they aren't going to watch a movie just to "support feminism." The selling point should have been "Hey, a new Ghostbusters movie! Did you like the old one? Sure you did! Come see this one!"

3) Which leads to the next point: it
was a reboot. A lot of people wanted to see the original cast reprise their roles at least one more time (I mean, obviously you can't get Egon, but they could have made it work). So there was disappointment right there when we found out Bill Murray wouldn't be Venkman again, and it was even more disappointing to hear he'd be some nothing character instead (plus those dreadful interviews where he and the old cast looked like they wanted to die).

4) And because it was a reboot, it meant they'd be retreading the Ghostbusters story. That's not to say a sequel couldn't retread the story (Ghostbusters 2 did) but at least with a sequel there was a chance we'd get something different (and no, genderswapped main characters isn't different).

5) It was a Sony movie. That's pretty much the stamp of shit right there.

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>AVGN does special ghostbuster video
>says if you want shitty movies to stop getting made, stop going to see them
>says he doesnt like the whole "idea" behind the movie and refuses to go see it
>SJW defense force attacks him for weeks

>he ends up getting more subscribers and fans out of it because he gets a massive publiicity boost, being seen by people who never even heard of him

>>85552782
So here's what they should have done different: they should have made a sequel and gotten the original cast involved, gotten them in the writing sessions and listened to their ideas, and had this movie be a passing-of-the-torch. When people made fun of the movie, instead of going on an all-out offensive, they should have just shrugged it off for the most part.

Basically, they should have done everything that The Force Awakens wound up doing. Now, I know, you're going to say "but that movie SUCKED." Okay. But do you know what The Force Awakens wasn't? The Force Awakens wasn't box office poison like Ghostbusters Answer The Call was. The Force Awakens wasn't an aborted attempt to relaunch a franchise.

Women.

>>85549926
>fatty
>plain jane
>dyke
>ape
That's a recipe for disaster.

Paul Feig and whoever co-wrote this shit were The Office / Parks & Rec style of comedy. It's fine for TV but they make terrible fucking movies. (Bridesmaids is barely ok)

The actors were straight horseshit. Effects were garbage. People propped it up like it would be good because misogyny and somehow it got like a 70 even though it's objectively a 4/10.

>>85552978
seriously, i dont even think women wanted to see a female ghostbusters

>>85552935
they had to force Bill Murray to even show up, he didn't want it made at all

They can try to blame it on sexism. But that's not true as Wonder Woman proved that female front blockbusters can succeed. They can try to blame it on /tv/. But that's not true because /tv/ would have crapped on a Ghostbusters 3 with the Judd Apatow gang (and that movie would have still been a box office hit).

The truth is Ghostbusters 2016 failed because they turned a goofy buddy movie into a Superhero film. Think of the original film, they're really a bunch of normal joes, the nerdiest one Spengler is still pretty normal just very smart and nerdy. They're not superhuman and the way they capture ghosts is pretty much the same way Pest Control will catch a possum out of your garage.

Paul Feig actually thought we'd want to know the motives of the villian, in The Original Ghostbusters Zuul is more of just a plot device, it's just an evil Ghost God there's no grand character detail. He has the Ghostbusters do crazy acrobatics and it goes against the charm of the original movie.

Sony wanted Ghostbusters to be a cinematic universe, instead of just a really fun movie.

>>85552919
I liked all those tweets making fun of him for being a nerd when that's all he's ever presented himself as. It was really interesting to see how much of a bubble the media is in compared to the internet or the rest of the world for that matter.

>>85553310
>Paul Feig actually thought we'd want to know the motives of the villian
He did? Because I remember there being no thought into the villain's motivations. He just wanted to control and make ghosts just because. There was absolutely nothing to his character other than "icky weird nerd guy you're not supposed to like".

>>85549926
>Ghost Aliens

And they never caught a single ghost.

>>85549926
it was a shit ip to begin with. reboots of old shit ips are kinda a joke. its like fucking ninja turtles FFS

its a throw back to a older era of campy shit nobody wants to see. while old geezers think middle aged people might find some nostalgia in it the reality is every one had shitty parents

then add on top of that women selected because they could remember the lines and a blatant attempt to make pretty much every male character a stereotype of oppression then you understand why nobody gave a fuck and the ones that had seen it warned every one else it was as bad as they thought

>>85549926
Replacing Bill Murray dry humor with Paul Feig improv

>>85549926
There going to be a sequel anyway. How many manbabies jokes you think there going to be?

>>85549926
Too much female involvement

If they wanted to be progressive as fuck, why not three blacks comedians playing the scientists and one schlubby white guy as their employee?

>>85550941
Kys

Because it was the horrific bastard of greed and ineptitude.
1: Nobody wanted a Ghostbusters sequels without any of the main cast, and few wanted one at all
2: Women are not the primary audience for Ghostbusters, period
3:Ghostbusters is not an action franchise, and you can't build a cinematic universe off it
4: Nobody wants to watch a movie that's half shitty comedy, half shitty action movie
5: The female market does not want to see 4 pudgy, middle aged women as stars
6: You should never have devoted 200 Million dollars to a comedy film

The female market for nerd shit wants a blandly attractive young woman surrounded by hunks. That's what the Fujoshit fanbase wants. Think Harry Potter or Twilight

>>85549926
>How did this fail so horribly?

Amy Pascal

>>85554459
That woman is seriously retarded. I know how she got her job, but still

>>85549926

Apart from looking completely terrible? They kept shitting on Men and Women don't go to see Action comedies unless they're on a date with a guy.

>>85552035

I like to think Patty wouldn't have filled Wonder Woman with YASSS QUEEN shit even if Ghostbusters didn't exist.

>>85552935

Hiring attractive women wouldn't have hurt either.

>>85552035
This mostly

>>85549926
It was horrible.
Like, unbearably bad.
Only the 2nd film I've ever turned off before it finished.

>>85551300
>This guy

You're not fooling anyone.

>>85549926
It was done by people who didn't understand why the original worked. But then again the same team that did the original didn't manage to get it right twice either.

>>85553847
There is?

>>85552935
Good points Mike

>>85549926

Because Sony Pictures Entertainment.

>>85554667
I watched it in a stream, and I could tell Feig just ran the camera and the editors had to string what they could together.
There is literally a cut that feels like it splices the beginning of one scene with the end of another.
It's when they're in the Mayor's office, and he makes a joke, and then it cuts to them in the middle of an alley talking about what just happened

Terrible marketing
Bad cast
Wasn't funny

>>85554708

I wonder if The Last Jedi coming out will turn you contrarian faggots on your heads again, and you'll end up praising and loving TFA in circlejerk threads. Or maybe you'll wait til Episode IX.

>>85550763
Jap Wolverine was great, stupid nigger

>>85552978
that's not why it's bad

Hemsworth was the best part by a mile

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>>85549926
This movie would have been a hit if not for the ridiculous 150 million dollar price tag. This is a key example of taking a 30 to 50 million dollar idea for a film and going full retard in terms of budgeting

>>85554789
I have an overwhelming huge gut feeling TLJ will be just as bad if not worse than TFA or rogue one

>>85549926
>Wymen powah the movie
>Every dude is evil or dumb as fuck

Gee I wonder.

>>85554891
I forgot "if you didn't like our film you're sexist".

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>>85549926
they needed to objectify Chris more desu

>>85552935
There's a lot of things TFA did wrong, but one of the things it did right was set up the film as a way to respectfully pass the torch from the old cast to the new.

Why not start the movie off with Venkman and Ray trying to do a job. They're older, they've clearly lost a step, maybe the job goes wrong and the ghost almost kills one of them. They realize they're too old for this shit, maybe they reminisce about the good old days, old friends they've lost, and decide it's time to hang up their proton packs.

Boom, there's your setup - Ghostbusters are old and tired, need to find and train replacements, cue introduction and recruitment of the new cast. No weird cameos where they're not the same characters, no bullshit explanations for the new cast coming up with the same shit, no need to retread all the steps of the original, and most importantly you haven't pissed off your core fanbase by taking a giant shit on the original.

>>85549926
Horrible writing
overbudget (should've been a 30m laughfest, not a 150m piece of shit)
Weird marketing

Its odd, since they had some actors who have been in very successful comedy films, AND they had a lot of cameo actors. They just wrote it absolutely horribly.

>>85553330
this
>look at this NERD, hes just an ANGRY manbaby! He is one of those horrible VIDEO GAMErs

>>85554982
>one of the things it did right was set up the film as a way to respectfully pass the torch from the old cast to the new.
it didnt do that at all! rey just inserts herself into the story and is liked by everyone. theres no growth or arc. everyone was just shoved in there said their bad lines and thats it.

>>85554982
The alt setup is interesting, but never use TFA as a positive example of anything

>>85553597
>it was a shit ip to begin with. reboots of old shit ips are kinda a joke. its like fucking ninja turtles FFS
Yes but the last film was made in the 80s. Usually this stuff makes a lot of money solely thanks to nostalgia. These morons ruined an opportunity to make big bucks because they gave the project to a male hating lesbian secretary.

Because it's the cinematic version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kdVpq3bnuY

I thought it was ok. Feig is a good comedy director, and the cast was solid (except McKinnon, terrible character, really forced).

The problem was that it was a reboot to a cult movie, which was pretty much perfect, and that it was surrounded by the whole "if you're against this you're misogynist, men tears, girls rule" thing which in the end made the movie a flop and killed the franchise.

>>85549926
They tried to hard to make a political statement when it's about fucking ghostbusters

This was honestly, a horrible idea and I tried to tell them it was.


>smart jew with a native american mother: guys uh, this is going to fail for sure, please stop
>NO, WE NEED THIS FOR VARIOUS REASONS THAT DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE, NOW LIKE IT
>dude, fuck off and no I'm not going to, stop that

Took a lot of effort to not make money off one of the most beloved properties out there, that's for sure.

>>85549926
Are you edging right now? You keep starting all these garbage ass flame threads just so you can welcome the deluge of /pol/ circlejerking shit posts and fake liberal bait posts. It's like you have a bunch of porn tabs open at once you filthy unimaginative crock of shit.

Why the FUCK are we never able to talk about movies and tv here? Couldn't we at least just have a "/I am an insecure little fucking pol sheep/ general" where you all can bring up strawman bad examples of failed movies that weren't all white men larping as your little cartoon heroes? Seriously fuck off.

>>85559043

You will drag us through the fucking mud to make your point and how, fucking dare you.

>>85549926
>How did this fail so horribly?

Easy: take a beloved fun movie franchise, make it not fun by turning it into a vehicle for feminist whining.

feminism its that simple.

they couldnt just do their movie and prove the "haters" wrong they took a shit on a beloved IP with anti male anti fucking ghostbusters sketches all over the place. its like some someone made a parody of what a "evil mgtow mra nazi" would have thought gets made but they actually made it for real

>>85553330

The best part is how he never responded to any of it. I think that was part of the reason for all the coverage. If he had talked about the backlash it wouldn't have gotten him as much free publicity.

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>>85552919
>>says if you want shitty movies to stop getting made, stop going to see them
>Very simple fact stated by James
>SJW go full triggered mode
>James just ignores them
>Movie comes out and is forgotten in a week
>GB is long gone and probably never be touched again as a franchise
>SJW are unusually quiet about GB 2016, never mention it again. It was that much of a shitshow
>James is perfectly fine moving on in life and being right that it was shit

Sweet Justice

>>85552782
>It was a Sony movie. That's pretty much the stamp of shit right there.
They sometimes produce something good. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo was excellent.

>>85549926
it started out as a really bad idea that snowballed into a worse idea. by the time they were too far gone to turn back, they just said 'fuck it' and tried to piss off as many people as possible so that they could point to the backlash as a reason why no one wanted to see an egregiously shitty movie with a terribly rehashed premise. it's a good way to divert fault and protect the egos of everyone involved, that way you never truly feel responsible for it all and you can convince yourself (and you hope others as well) that your failure was caused by inexorable cultural and societal issues beyond your control.

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>>85553310
>Sony wanted Ghostbusters to be a cinematic universe


I really hope that there was somebody that told them no before being quickly fired because the idea of a movie that even a sequel with the original cast couldn't top will somehow be able to shit out 6-7 interconnected sequels that audiences won't quickly get sick of was such a good idea that they formed a studio to directly work on GB sequels is retarded in every way.

>>85550763
Don't you ever fucking compare Wolverine in Gook town and Power Rangers to the Ghostbusters reboot

>>85558028
McKinnon's character could have been saved if they firmly established she was supposed to be borderline autistic from the start, rather than trying to imply she was just quirky.
It would make the scenes where Wiig looks like she wants to bolt for the nearest exit make a lot more sense

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>>85549926

Best thing to come from it was this pic

>>85551300
>Not posting the video by based Georg Rockall-Schmidt

>>85552035
didn't they make a woman-only screening?

>>85560528
Really glad his ghostbusters video got him more exposure.
The guy deserves it, and his The Thing and how X changed over time videos are brilliant.

>>85549926
Nobody had any character to speak of. The plot didn't make much sense and was more of a series of unconnected events leading around the protagonists. Half of the cast was grating.
The idea had merit, they could have rebooted Ghostbusters to be something fun, and exciting. Unfortunately it would have required them getting fun and exciting people to direct it instead of that hack fraud whose career is essentially over.

>>85553310
Forget wonder woman. Look at Fury Road. Nothing wrong with sticking a woman in a traditionally-male role in the script. Just, y'know, remember to also make it an entertaining movie.

>>85552919
>>85559790
never forget how James un-JUSTed himself

>>85549926
Bad script. Bad Casting. Bad Direction.

The three bads.

>>85559970
>I really hope that there was somebody that told them no before being quickly fired
>Sony Pictures
They were quickly promoted.

>>85560544
they did for wonder wymyn

>>85553752
>Paul Feig improv

the bloopers must be the most cringiest material ever to be filmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvN4D6dj1xI

found some, only proofs this was treated as a full length SNL improv parody of Ghostbusters

>>85561435
It's clear that fag let the cast walk all over him when he should have been reigning them in, then called his lack of direction improv and hoped it would work.

>>85552935
They could have had the new crew open up a new franchise in Boston or New Orleans or something and get advice occasionally from the old crew.

>>85549926
The first Ghostbusters as it stands today is meh.

>>85552035
Also wonder woman is a superhero movie. That's a guaranteed 200 million in the box office.

>>85549926
>so horribly

You mean not horribly enough? Still, I dont understand your question. It was a movie from cancer for cancer.

>>85560293
>she was supposed to be borderline autistic from the start, rather than trying to imply she was just quirky

Can't do that. Her character's gay. Even if it's not outright said, we all no it because it was conveniently "leaked" that "HEY, AMERICA! THIS STRONG WOMYN IS GAY BUT SONYGNISTS WON'T LET US PUT THAT IN THE FILM!"

The simple truth is that LGBT characters can't have traditional flaws in 99% of media because that makes the people making it sexist. Maybe you can in, y'know, GOOD stuff... characters having defining traits AND flaws makes them better characters. But here? In a Sony "blockbuster"? Fuck that.

The real irony is that saying she can't have flaws because she's gay is hilariously close to back when characters would have one sole trait to define them and "gay" would have been enough to count as a flaw in of itself, so they're more or less still counting it as a strike against her in a way.

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>>85549926
it's sole marketing campaign was attacking the white male. it wasn't even about girl power.

plus Feig is a terrible director and even worse in interviews

>>85558028
>the cast was solid
No, they were not.

Not in any form. They couldn't have picked worse people if they tried.

>>85549926
>bad actors
>bad jokes
>bad cgi
>bad props
>bad visuals
>action/story that did not make sense.
>forced cameos


You can only get away with so much you need to excel in something to hide the other faults and cast a shadow on them

>>85562811
That can't be real.... Why? That is kind of abnormal.

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>>85563139
this picture and that picture pretty much sum up what went wrong

>>85563183
I just can't imagine what kind of mental illness makes a person act like this.

>>85554982
And they can make a serioulsy feminist point by hiring men AND women because they're the best they got, no mention of agenda or gender or anything like that, no "lol how will this GIRL carry a heavy proton pack? oh shit, she did!" bullshit jokes. A team of two men and two women acknowledging each other as peers would be a shit-ton more progressive than the gurl powah nonsense.

>>85562870
I liked McCarthy in St Vincent and she was hilarious in Spy, Jones was a pleasant surprise considering that she sucks on snl, Hemsworth was the funniest thing about the movie and I'm a huge fan of Wiig and her shtick. The cast was fine, as it would have been with Poehler, Fey, Rashida Jones and IASIP bird.

But they worked with a mediocre script, a not very inspired director with the wrong vision for the movie and a horrendous pr team that worked really hard to alienate the target audience

>>85553597
>it's old that means it's bad! I personally hate old things therefore nobody should touch them because it makes me angry!

You need to be 18+ to post here.

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>>85552035
Wonder woman is a bad comparison because its not hijacking a widely beloved franchise and butchering it.

Running a negative advertising and PR campaign against 50% If the marketable audience has to be one of the most bizarre tactical errors I've ever seen, Advertising students are going to study the 2010s as a very strange time

Because it was a shitty movie. It wasn't funny. It was a cringeworthy, dime-a-dozen reboot that would've quietly sunk right to the bottom of the bargain bin if it wasn't for the political controversy they forced around it. It didn't please anyone. None of the women I know liked it or thought it was "feminist", including myself. It was just an all-around bad movie with terrible impromptu that tried to mimic the witty banter of the original movie but never coming even close. Literally nothing worked in this piece of shit and it didn't satisfy anyone. Even the SJWs shut the fuck up about it after its release because even they couldn't defend how bad it was.

>>85562777
It was an awful kind of lesbian character too. She kept making slimy passes at the other characters and that gun-licking move... so awful. It was like a stereotype right from the 90's. I can't believe McKinnon agreed to portray a gay character like that despite being a lesbian herself.

>>85554459
This. I will never understand how she gets to keep her job because she's the fucking black widow of movies. Everything she touches goes straight to cuck hell because she's desperate to make up for her racist Obama statements a few years back and other non-PC shit she's said.

>>85559777
Someone actually managed to catch a short phone interview from him and all he said was basically that "I'm not going to respond because a reaction is exactly what they want". He also mentioned that he's been getting threats against his family from the SJW terrorists but he did the right thing by not playing their game. People are attacking you and calling you a sexist misogynist manbaby left and right but you stand your ground and motherfucking release the second video you promised. James got balls the size of a mountain.

And lo and behold, a few weeks later everyone's forgotten about the whole thing. He knew better not to give in and feed the controversy and he beat them all.

>>85549926
No leads and 4 comic reliefes.

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>>85552782
You forgot
6) It is just because you hate women

>>85553330
What was shit was assholes like Oswalt and all those shitty nerd film critics looking to measure dicks, calling him a loser and trying to make James feel like shit. It's like they don't know he's got mental disabilities.

>>85549926
Where to start?

Amy Pascal.
She had a super hero gir idea called Glass Ceiling. Not bad idea with a lame title. But she's nuts and talk properly. Plus Sony hack didn't help her.

Feig
A weirdo that enjoys being dominated by women in public. He also wanted to make GB about space travel and aliens.
He's an unfunny loser.

Cast
They didn't gel and are not funny. Def not in this movie. There's a problem when everyone is trying to be Bill Murray. Someone has to be Ackyord.

Tom Rothman
Left Fox, joined Sony as CEO. Biggest retard in the business. He didn't want Siger doing the X-Men movies. He rejected the idea of an Titanic movie. Then it made a bill and he rejected Avatar. He also hates Deadpool and didn't think a solo movie would work.

Bill Murray
He was stronger armed into the movie. Fucking why? How can you do that to Bill?

Concept
Just was a dumb idea that catered to feminists. Should have gone with a young group of mixed genders.

>>85549926
>"We've got all these funny actors, let's just have line-o-rama improvisations instead of a tight script with good jokes thought out beforehand!"

>>85552782
>if you don't like it, you're racist and sexist.
See Trump and Brexit for more examples of this winning strategy.

>>85562811
I remember Joe When organ BTFO of him on his podcast

Woah who knew that making a shitty movie while alienating a huge part of your potential audience would backfire?

>>85561267
that's what I meant.

>>85549926
Unfunny, ugly, and fat women in a shitty remake of a beloved movie.

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>>85566920
>Tom Rothman
Left Fox, joined Sony as CEO. Biggest retard in the business. He didn't want Siger doing the X-Men movies. He rejected the idea of an Titanic movie. Then it made a bill and he rejected Avatar. He also hates Deadpool and didn't think a solo movie would work.

I thought Kikes are supposed to be smart

>>85567899
https://disqus.com/home/channel/marvelmania/discussion/channel-marvelmania/tom_rothman_a_history_of_fox_mismanagement/

>>85549926
4 hack SJW comedians.

>>85549926

Marketing strategy could be boiled down to "If you don't see this you're a fucking SEXIST" and ultimately the movie didn't prove anyone's preconceptions of it wrong and what you saw in the trailers is exactly what you got.

Also casting Lesley Jones and making her a walking black stereotype while pretending to be progressive.

They alienated both old fans and people who never saw the classic movies.

>>85549926
People hate fat dykey women with first world problems

>>85552076
You mean yourself don't you

>>85549926
no one wants to watch a comedy where the leads are women

The Ghostbusters reboot is the live action version of Teh Penguin of Doom! meme. There was nothing clever in it. Nothing funny. It was two hours of "let's be quirky and have constant uncomfortable pauses and people will be unable to resist lauffing." The villain wasn't interesting and Feig has no clue how to shoot suspense - that opening scene went on way too long.

It was a shitty movie and the only person who wanted to make it was Amy Pascal.

>>85549926
I'm a woman.. look at me.. I have a vagina! thats why

>>85555007
This got minimal marketing because they were shit scared of people shitting all over the trailers on YouTube

>>85559120
/Tv/ has been like this for a while and you're blaming /pol/. Get the fuck outta here bitch ass nigga

>>85563183
He is fucking disgusting

>>85553069
I think the whole Judd Apatow school of comedy where you just let the actors improv and riff has been played out for years. Mumblecore is garbage.

Why come no one tries to draw parallels to the cartoon series.

I think they took their cues from that more than the movies.

The original creators couldn't make a good sequel, what made them think they could?

>>85549926
Bad writing and the decline of Kate McKinon

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How many of you would have wanted a movie adaptation of this over >>85549926?

>>85549926
Because /tv/ was right for once

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Post your rarest ghostbusters

>>85549926
>How did this fail so horribly?
What are you smoking that you think a reboot of a beloved classic and nigh-perfect movie that literally no one asked for, with stunt casting, and a marketing campaign designed to alienate literally half of the general audience would be anything but an embarrassing flop?
Reboots are fucking cancer. The fact that the cast was women had nothing to do with my expectations that this
would be a bland, unfunny, souless experience.
Instead of addressing people's concern they released an awful trailer and pushed the narrative that you hate women for not liking the trailer.

>>85569915
>9gag watermark

>>85549926
The real world doesn't sign off on leftist SJW bullshit as much as Hollywood thinks.

>>85569551
If my choices were bowel cancer over the shitbusters movie I'd need some time to consider my options.

>>85570420
>The real world doesn't sign off on leftist SJW bullshit as much as /pol/ thinks
ftfy

>>85569915
What are the chances these "actresses" came back to see how she was doing after the promo for that bomb was over?

>>85570424
Hey, that cartoon wasn't that bad.

>>85552935

Agreed on the passing of the torch bit.

I really don't know why they couldn't have done this. After all at the time the IDW comics were doing just that. Having a new and fresh team while not invalidating the ones that came before.

>>85553177

I think in all honesty to Akroyd and Murray, The ghost busters video game WAS the 3 that they had been pushing for.

Forget about it turning off men, was it even the kind of movie women want to see? WW seemed like a much better try in that regard

because women arent funny retard

>>85570895
Sorry, I meant bowel cancer vs. The 2016 fembusters.
I grew up confused with that cartoon and the real ghostbusters cartoon.

>jokes not funny
>characters don't feel like real people
>reboot was treated more like a parody of the original than an actual serious reboot
>played the misogyny angle and alienated their fanbase thinking that would make them see it

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>>85568056
>tfw you first found out this was the kike behind sewing Deadpools mouth shut and turning Galactus into a cloud
>tfw he is now involved in making the Venom movie after ruining Spiderman

>>85573259
>characters don't feel like real people
The men in that movie felt like the feminist version of black face for masculine men. Every man was a crap parody and a bigoted view of guys. I felt like I was watching the feminist KKK version of how they see people.

>>85571208
Because passing the torch would imply to the SJW crowd that women can't do anything and men must do the heavy lifting for them. They had to disavow the original and pretend it didn't happen to empower women.

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>>85549926
ask this woman

Reminder the old movie said you can not destroy matter only contain it as they even said gozer will most likely come back as they just locked him away

The fembusters are just delaying the ghosts not containing them

>>85572193
This.

It appealed only to a very narrow demographic of aging crass liberal feminist women and their beta cuck slaves, maybe a few desperate Ghostbusters fans as well.

WW appeals to a broader demographic, it's entertaining for men as well as women, and it doesn't alienate its audience or make them feel stupid.

>>85549926
The movie was slightly below average, but the overly smug campaign is what put it 6 feet under.

>>85554982
>one of the things it did right was set up the film as a way to respectfully pass the torch from the old cast to the new.

What a fucking retarded statement. TFA invalidated everything Luke, Han, and Leia did in the original trilogy. Nothing respectful about that. If you want a good example of 'passing the torch' then look at what Creed did.

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>>85570669
Very high anon, don't you know feminists are some of the kindest and most caring people on earth ;)

Because the producers thought "recent success and popularity of SNL female cast + Ghostbusters 3 which we've been sitting on for 15 years now + recent gender politics" = this giant piece of shit

>>85573717
>TFA invalidated everything Luke, Han, and Leia did in the original trilogy
How?

>>85574165
By restarting everything from the beginning so there's another Empire, another galaxy under ironclad rule, only a couple of Jedi around, the Dark Side super-powerful again, etc.

>>85574165
Their story had no purpose. Everything has been reset to Episode IV.

>>85574220
>>85574259
>Doing something is pointless if anything bad ever happens again
Why the fuck did they even bother fighting WW1, WW2 happened so none of the lives they saved mattered

>>85574337
The fuck does that even have to do with anything? The Abrams' trilogy is blatantly copying the original trilogy right down to how everything starts, everything gets really bad, and everything will be triumphant in the end. Even the prequel trilogy knew to mix it up and not completely ape the OT.

>>85574337
>that retarded analogy

If TFA had done something new instead of copying the plot of the original trilogy, then it would have been a proper way to pass the torch. Imagine people years from now when people watch TFA. There's nothing in that movie that was affected by the original trilogy, hell, the six movies before, so there's no incentive to watch any of them.

TFA is a fresh new start, a complete reboot, that's fine, but it's not a good 'passing of the torch.'

>>85574259
The logical conclusion of Luke is that everything is happening again. The force is still unbalanced despite all he, han and Leia did in the past.
Thats why he wants to reborn the Grey Jedi order
Their story had a purpose.

>>85560544
it was a theater that decided to do it, not the production company

A lot of people don't seem to understand that the misogynist/SJW angle was deliberately planned by Sony who thought they could wield it as a tool to attract an audience. Likely due to a boardroom of out-of-touch executives miscalculating the true volume of SJW support out there based on Twitter/Buzzfeed/Etc etc. This was their attempt to cash in on it. Look at how the movie was marketed. Literally the first bit of info that came out was "All-Female Ghostbusters in the Works GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?". Before there was a script, a director, a cast, before ANYTHING ELSE was set, it was using the gender-swap as it's main gimmick while trying to drum up angst. What actually happened is that no one really gave a shit. So they had to keep creating straw man bigots to rail against. It was all marketing.

>>85568476
Personally I blame cancerous fucking mobileposters like yourself.

>>85568717
But they did make a good sequel, it's just not a movie but a game.

>>85549926
They relied on the 'improv' style that all mcarthy and crew movies use for most of the jokes, so it felt like a regular b list comedy and not a well crafted A list Ghostbusters movie. Just another angery response to random non sequitors plus a street wise no nonsense add in. There was never a single joke, it was always a pile of them on top of each other. They seem to think that is banter, but it's obvious that they got in a room and wrote stuff in a group and just writing down all the best stuff they could think off in twenty minutes of spit balling, then moving on.

The only one 'good' bit was chris Hemsworth, but even then he was just there to be riffed on by the ladies. I think as an actual actor and not a snl comedian he was able to understand that your playing a character and not yourself in a role making jokes about who you are playing.

>It was the budget overruns that killed it. The director specifically asked for more money, nearly the exact amount that was the us shortfall. That really pissed off the studio guys.

>>85549926
Why did they chose ghostbusters of all things to make a feminist movie?
I don't renember the original being a testosterone fueled movie.

>>85550763
1. The Wolverine was a pretty solid movie and not even in the same ballpark as the 2016 Ghostbusters

2. Why the fuck are you bringing girls to Power Rangers? Cringiest date idea ever.

You can make money alienating the male audience and catering to females. Twilight series and Pitch Perfect did this and made plenty of money. Ghostbusters didn't really please the women enough to get away with alienating the males.

>>85579278
>Twilight series and Pitch Perfect
Those movies just didnt try to appeal to guys. Ghostbusters went out of its way to tell guys to go fuck themselves

>>85578683
Because the people who managed to secure the IP were SJWs.

>>85574220
>complaining about shit that also happened in the EU, barring Jedi dying off.

Fuck off wanker

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>>85549926
Probably the first movie I've seen where reviewers were scared to call the movie worse that "meh" or "mediocre" because of feminist backlash but everyone knew deep down this movie was shit, anyone saying otherwise is deluded.

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>>85573299
The weirdest thing was when feminists online tried to excuse criticisms about Hemsworth parody of a character by saying "See how it feels!"

When the female secretary in the original Ghostbusters was the farthest thing from a stereotype

what the fuck

>>85554489
She's a jew

It's a bad, unoriginal movie with horrible actresses and unfunny cringy jokes. The end.

>>85581945
The male action star who was written as a dullard still had the best delivery and comic relief in a movie starring the four "best" female comedians at the time.

>>85568635
The funny thing about that is the cartoon series is more true in humor and tone to the original movie. Hell, I'd say the cartoon series is less of a cartoon than the 2016 reboot.

>>85581799
Bugged the shit out of me seeing people trying to forgive this movie too by comparing it to Ghostbusters 2 and saying the 2016 is better by comparison. This movie couldn't even hold a candle to a sequel most people fucking hated.

>>85560528
He liked the movie. He can fuck off.

>>85549926
China no like

>>85549926
>not funny
>not about ghost busting
>Shitty writing

1. Kinda like Spider Man homecoming sony overvalued their product. Spider Man is a spoiled brand and so is Ghosbusters. Although in Spider Man Homecomings case its the fault of previous films, whereas with Ghostbusters it was its own marketing that killed it.
2. Literally the only people truly excited enough to hype this movie up are original ghostbusters fans, and the aforementioned awful marketing actively discouraged them from seeing it
3. Some people think controversy and constant coverage is a good thing for hype, but when its on a topic as toxic as media sexism it can only hurt you
4. The people Feig and the marketing team brought in to hype the film up in lieu of actual fans were feminists, and it becomes more and more evident with every single release of this nature across all mediums that feminist praise does not in any way lead to more money.
5. The film was not very good. Wasnt awful, there were certainly far worse films to come out that year. But the fact that its lukewarm reception was blamed on sexism just made sony, Feig, and pretty much everyone who jumped on this films bandwagon, look like total morons when Wonder Woman came out and blew pretty much everyone away and is on track to make over a billion worldwide while featuring a literal Amazonian woman only paradise in the film.
6. Again, the franchise is dead. That means it wont do well on home video, and it wont do well in any form of spin off. The comic book series that was supposed to tie in with the movie is cancelled, the video game was so bad and sold so poorly it bankrupted the studio, and the sequel that Sony once said was a sure thing has been shelved.

I dont understand. Literally all they had to do was have them be succesors to the oringal ghosbusters. Its just such an easy change to make that i cant imagine why they thought all the controversy that is brought by remaking a classic was worth it.

>>85549926
i watched the entire movie, the only good parts were the ones with the male secretary acting like an idiot.

>>85559790
he's an awesome guy that stuck to his guns
and won

>>85552035
Attacking your customers is never a good move, but that's not what killed the movie. It was just such an obvious cash-in that even normies could tell it was going to be shit.

>>85566920
For cast, they also had that one chick that seemed to be trying to be Jim Carey, while also seeming to think "le funny faec" is why Jim carey was funny.

what the fuck happened with chris hemsworth's character? he spends his screentime being either ridiculed for being a Dumb Male or being objectified by the ghostbusters. i'd sorta get it if it was written by a woman, but wasn't the main writer a guy?

>>85551051

It didn't help their case that they went on the warpath pre-emptively blaming everyone and everything under the sun months before it even came out.

>Release shit trailer
>Treat your fans like shit instead of winning them over
>Script gets leaked and proves everyone's notion that the movie is going to be terrible
>Remove a dance sequence instead of reworking/rediting/rewriting the other 99 problems that the internet pointed out
>Blame men

If they'd have kept their goddamn mouths shut and thrown together some half decent trailers they could have at least tricked their audience into a few decent weeks of sales. They played themselves.

>>85585858
The writer was probably a nu-male, not uncommon in Hollywood.

>>85553310
>>85553410
Yeah I don't know what the fuck you're talking about mate, the villain had literally no explanation at all, I barely fucking remember him and I watched it this month. There was no point to almost any scene in the film. It was borderline incoherent.

>>85553597

Are you seriously calling Ghostbusters shit?

>>85554442

It's why Marvel movies do so well with women. All the dudes are fucking ripped and handsome.

>>85550373

F P B P

>>85551051
>and casted a bunch

i believe the past tense of "casted" is "cosht".

>>85560784
Never hurts to have believeable action girls in role, like Charlize in Fury Road or Emma Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow, Sigourney in alien, Linda in Terminator, etc etc.

>>85585412
Im not sure why they made it a feminist film, or why any film would be a feminist film. Could these people really care more about agenda pushing than money?

Making gross accusations towards your potential audience before they've even seen the trailer might have had something to do with it.

>>85550373
This plus horrible PR, marketing and being a film nobody asked for.

If they were going to do a Ghostbusters 3, they should have done it between 1993 and 2005, same for a reboot.

>>85574337
Holy fuck you are genuinely retarded

>>85589488
>8 hours later
Sure showing him champ

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-30/sony-says-it-will-take-1-billion-writedown-on-movie-business

>Sony Corp. said it will take a 112 billion yen ($1 billion) writedown in its movie business after reviewing the future profitability of its operations.

This board could run a movie studio better

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>>85559120
>Why the FUCK are we never able to talk about movies and tv here?
Eh? /tv/ has always been about TELEVISION AND FILM. We talk about good stuff and bad stuff, what makes it good/bad, casting, directing, effects, etc. Why wouldn't we talk about THE most shitposted movie from 2016?