Why do some people love this boring fuck?

t. baby who was introduced to him through S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl

>>85541091
Nostalghia.

The climax is a guy walking a fucking empty pool. If this prick directed The Seventh Seal, it would've been 2 hr 45 minutes, every shot would've held on for 10 seconds too long, and every character would speak like a philosophical poet.

>>85541179
>where are my quips and epic boss battle!!? Wtf?!

>>85540982
because he makes plebs like you mad.

>>85540982

Honestly one of the strongest directors to live tbqh.

Hipsters will pretend to like him to seem deep.

Biggest hack ever, he thinks long pauses and filming river plants make good film.

>>85541363
You joke but I'd rather watch a MCU film than this hack anyday.

>>85540982
The driving scene in Solaris is a pleb filter. The man himself said so.

>>85540982
>plebbit scum doesn't understand kino directors
>muh capeshit
try r/flicks cuckboi

>>85540982
because he is not boring

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>>85541606
Why the fuck would you watch Tarkovskys rendition over this?

>>85541600
then why are you on /tv/?

>>85541678
He is the biggest reddit director of all

>>85541720
We spit on people who enjoy this pretensious shit here on /tv/, why are YOU here?

>>85541678
Nigger Cuckovsky is no fucking Hanake. Dude writes the same damn character in every fucking film.

>I'm a tortured poet

Suck my dick

>>85541699
True. This is 10 times a better movie in half the run time.

They like Marvel flicks

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>>85541837
>Hanake

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>It was in color this whole time, big reveal

Why did he do this shit.

>>85541994
Marvel makes enjoyable movies unlike this commie.

He doesn't have one bad film. In fact they are all great.

>>85541758
no, /tv/ is supposed to be for people who actually like film. I guarantee you've been here for 2 years at the most

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>>85542341
>Marvel makes enjoyable movies

>>85542853
You are a pseud

>>85542913
t. I hate fun

grow up

>>85542341
pleb detected. he hated communism.

They like DC flicks

>>85542990
Source?

>>85543231
>deeply Christian filmmkaer who lived and worked outside the Soviet Union for the last decade of his life
Yeah I'm sure he liked communism

>>85544576
He didn't like the Soviet government but he was definitly communist. Religion doesn't mean you can't be communism.

>>85545454
>but he was definitly communist.
Source?

>>85545486
wikipedia

>>85545967
Literally 0 results on Ctrl+Fing "communism" on his article

>>85546021
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9_%D0%90%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

>>85542971
>marvel
>fun
Spotted the fucking manchild. Grow up and stop watching childrens movies you freak.

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>>85540982
>tfw still haven't gotten through Solaris and couldn't understand The Mirror

>>85546099
Literally 0 results on Ctrl+Fing "Кoммy" on his article

>>85541606
Source?

>>85541695
Kek

>>85542971
raiders of the lost ark is fun
>>85543231
his films

>>85546586
List a proper source.

"Tarkovsky praised the blockbuster film The Terminator, saying its "vision of the future and the relation between man and its destiny is pushing the frontier of cinema as an art". He was critical of the "brutality and low acting skills", but nevertheless impressed by this film."

What a pleb

>>85540982
>Doesn't use symbolism
>Resulting in forced dialogue read straight from a philosophy text
>Reducing most shots to "very pretty. wow"
The guy's an egotist and makes shit. I envy him, because he conned his way to the Pseud top.

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A Man walks into a bar. Bartender puts a glass of water in front of him, without a single word. Everyone in the bar goes silent.
The dude stares on the glass, then looks out of the window for 10 minutes, then lays on the floor for 20 minutes. After this the dude gets up and walks away. Bartender watches him leaving. Then for 10 minutes we are staring at aquatic plants in a river current.
- I told you guys, Tarkovsky is genius.

>>85546818
symbolism is fucking garbage.

>>85546818
>Doesn't use symbolism

Where did you get this from? Have you noticed the horses in his films?

>>85546464
Not him, but I've also read that Tarkovsky only made the Tokyo highway scenes so long so that the plebs would leave the theater out of boredom. Can't find a primary source of him actually saying that though.

>>85547290
The horse, like water, rain and milk is an image, not a symbol.

>>85547470
Its impossible to escape symbolism even if he didn't purposely intend them to symbolise something.

define "image"

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>>85547692
http://people.ucalgary.ca/~tstronds/nostalghia.com/TheTopics/Symbols.html

>>85542971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzmhqwB_AY

>>85547251
Epic

I just watched The Mirror and its pretty fucking confusing

1. It's like 4 different timeline
B. One person plays like 3 different characters
C. The entire dialogue is written like poetry

Besides that his movies are cool to look at

>>85547830
>Dude hiding meaning lmao

>>85547751
Like I said, he might not have planned for them to symbolize anything but its impossible since we as humans understand the world around us through symbols.

>>85540982
>boring movies can't be good

>>85547848
Yeah, I didn't understand The Mirror at all, but it didn't feel pretentious.

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>>85547907
I understand the world through images
Images like meme macros

>>85547964
Well if the image makes you think of something, brings up an idea then symbols are involved.

>>85547848
There's only one timeline.

The only characters played by the same character are the ex-wife and the mother.

>>85547949
It isn't pretentious, I think it makes complete sense in his head. If people want to dig deep into it then their free to do so

>>85548044
There's definitely more than one timeline, including dream sequences and news reels

>The film switches among three different time-frames: prewar (1935), war-time (1940s), and postwar (1960s or '70s).

>>85548046
>>85547949
>>85547848
Are you guys sure you haven't seen a version with terrible subtitles? Some torrents have subtitles that basically only translate like half of the dialogue, making it pretty much incomprehensible. If you watch it with good subtitles it makes perfect sense.

>>85548094
there's one timeline, all of the scenes in the film are set in it, they're just not in chronological order

Anti-white multiculturalism

>>85548162
This

>>85548156
I get what you're saying that it basically runs like a series of memories of one main character but it jumps around from different time periods where the same actress plays a different character, it was confusing

It's OK to not see the beauty in Tarkovsky films until some point at your life but saying stupid shit like this is wrong.Simply accept that Tarkovsky is the most mainstream acquired-taste director and move on to easier films.I'm sure you'll be ready for him in 5 years, big boy.

>>85548026
>>85547907
>>85547830
>>85547692
t. I am too dumb to understand Heidegger

>>85548109
Maybe I didn't have good subtitles, but I was also probably sleepy.

>>85548672
Heidegger taught about Being and Nothingness and wasn't as concerned with semiotics, what are you talking about?

>>85548796
bro-tip: Tarkovsky is a phenomenologist

any place online you can watch his entire filmography, in good quality with proper subs? i liked Stalker a lot but Solaris was difficult to get through, it put me off seeing the rest

>>85549254
Solyaris is pretty much his worst film.

>>85549254
torrents you fucking brainlet

>>85548875
Then he should have no problem with people seeing different things in his films.

>>85549551
>looking for anything at all rather than simply experiencing
There is a reason most of his mature films focus on the passage of time and different units of time

>>85549708
We experience through ideas. You don't just "experience"

Pleb here. What movies should I watch by him?

>>85540982
he's pointing at us.

>>85551127
damn

>>85546697
Wow, he actually liked terminator? From what i've read in his diary it seems that he didn't like anything but his own films.

>>85552815
Here is his top 10:
Top Ten Movies by Tarkovsky
Diary of a country priest
Communion (Winter Light)
Nazarín
Wild Strawberry
City Lights
Ugetsu
Seven Samurai
Persona
Mouchette
Woman in the Dunes

>>85552374
Thanks. It wouldn't be a Tarkovsky thread without this classic

>>85540982
Stupid Amerifat capeshit lovers mad at Tarkovsky : the thread

>>85553099
>He shitposts ad hominems
BASED

>>85553099
What can I say, Cape kino is an enjoyable watch unlike this boring pseudo intellectual shit

>>85552374
yikes.

>>85553210
Well it is always Americans who shit on directors like Tarkovsky or Bergman. They are too accustomed to their Hollywood movie schemes that the transition is too hard for them and that, unable to let themselves overwhelmed by these directors' mastery, they prefer to denigrate them.

>>85553394
I am not a big fan of Tarkovsky but have you even tried to think about the Tarkovsky's films you saw more than 30s after the viewing ? Have you try to get interested in the director's motivations and what he has been trying to convey throughout his filmography ? Have you read Sculpting in time ? Have you try to grasp what makes Tarkovsky so special that so many directors and critics praised his work ?
And you should do the same for every director even guys like Spielberg. The difference is with Spielberg's films the message is always pretty clear. Conversely, Tarkovsky is much more esoteric, but is it a reason to spit on his work because some random on the Internet called you pleb ?

>>85553842
I watched Stalker and he literally spells everything out for you. What is this "esoteric" propaganda you are shilling, Tarkovsky?

>>85553913
>He literally spells everything out for you

Then you didn't get the bigger picture. There are far more than just dialogs in Stalker but that's how a true film-lover can be recognized. Instead of spewing his disdain, he actually explores and is eager to learn more when he is facing a singular movie.

>>85554201
Name 3 things that are not related to or disgust in a monologue from stalker.

>>85541606
I heard the opposite. He only left that much in to justify the cost of going to tokyo to the producers.

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>>85542308
Lol no,he said it time and time again that color was only to high lite certain moments that were really worth.

>>85547692
Its not a fucking symbol the guy was working as a prospector for a living,he just loved nature and the freedom in it.

>>85555134
>high lite

watching 10 dollar soviet films with poetic dialogue that I can't understand but can read the badly translated subtitles makes me feel smart

>>85555192
me mes

>>85555196
Americas are very much against subtitles,its just in their nature to hate them with passion.
If the movie gets dubbed it will probably do better with American audience.

>>85541758
>we
Kill yourself.

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>>85555218
The problem is the actual translation. It is so important to the enjoyment of the film for the dialogue to be translated appropriately, especially with creators that actually put effort into the writing. I feel like a lot of translation in subtitles or even jap games and anime to english were low effort, inaccurate and simplified and it doesn't fit the mood and makes the writing look bad when in reality the writing could have been great, but I'll never know about it. All I can rely on is the visuals in foreign film and Tarkovsky to be honest is boring as fuck

>>85555218
Only movies dubbed are cartoons because they're for kids. Don't know where you got your leftists lies from.

>>85555308
I suspect this is why I didn't like Hard to be a god

>>85541552
The sign of an idiot, thinking anything he's too retarded to appreciate is bad, go back to your capeshit

>>85555308
I can assure you that everything is translated properly in Tarkovsky movies,Americans just miss the subtlety of understanding and simple allegories since they are too direct a simpleminded by nature.


>>85555359
You really need to lurk /tv/ more,Americans flat out say that they refuse to watch movies with subtitles.

>>85555424
This board flat out doesn't have flags you Sharia Ape.

>>85555444
Uhhh what?
Im from eastern europe.

>>85555457
I'm american and I'm over 9000 pounds and shart in the mart xD

>>85555457
I couldn't have guessed

>>85555457
Sharia Ape confirmed

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>>85555457
Why would I watch subtitles when every movie worth watching is in english?

>>85552374
This is literally just a collage of things people who are into movies use but with a snarky 'anti-pretentious' pretentious title to turn it into an insult, IMBD, VLC, criterion, and piratebay, really? Who doesn't use any of these for watching anything that isn't capeshit? Low effort. The only truely psued thing in this is Nerdwriter

>>85555462
>>85555470
>>85555482
>>85555532
You guys should have been honest and just say straight that you guys were underage.

>Oh someone is saying something I dont understand better call him Abdul from Baghdad haha lol that will tell him

>>85555659
>someone is saying something I don't understand
Do all Slavs project as much as you?

>>85555659
>Oh someone is laughing at me for being sanctimonious better call them underaged haha lol that will tell them

>>85555701
Whatever abdul

>>85555707
>I am provocateur but I will act like he is wrong when he replies lol

>>85555659
tarkovsky is visually uninteresting. If I wanted good writing I would read a fucking BOOK you nigger

>>85555747
Kek. You've lost the plot, Igor.

>>85555764
I seriously doubt that you have ever read a book in your life "nigger".

>It's a "/tv/ user has a low attention span" thread
If you guys keep acting like you're better than other sites, can you at least not be an embarrassment?

>>85555768
whatever white boi im not making these threads >>85552101

>>85555808
They are kids don't mind them.

>>85555836
post top 10

>>85555881
>top 10
AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

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wow so deep
tarkovskyfags are fucked in the head

>>85555890
sorry, is that too high of a number for slavic "education"? how about a top 5? just copy and paste this for help

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

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>>85555937
WHOAH AVENGERS ASSEMBLE

>>85555940
This is the state of American education,when life boils down to top 10 emoji scenes lmao

>>85555937
man laying down in a gutter with feral dog is the pinnacle of soviet cinematography you fucking american pleb how dare you

>>85555977
Nice deflection, coward.

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>>85556004
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE

>>85556024
Im not invading Iraq Abdul.

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>>85556033
tarkovskyfags wish they could afford that outfitting and makeup in their "films" kek
wow, round windows

>>85555960
>Captain.America.Civil.War.2016.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-SpaceHD.png
>12.16 GB

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU WASTED 12 GB ON CAPESHIT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF TARKO/v/SKY FAGS

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>85556122
hahaha LOL
American CINEMA IS THE BEST USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USAUSA

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>>85555960
>>85556033
>tarko/v/skyfag actually watches capeshit and downloads the best quality torrents for CAPESHIT
TARKO/v/SKYFAGS BTFO FOR ALL TIME

>>85556159
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>>85556177
MUH SOVIET FILMS

>>85556145
It literally is. I count the number of good Soviet directors on one hand. Kalatozov (Tarkshitsky apes him with his least pseud flick, Ivan's Childhood), Eisenstein (who influenced the editing in Marvel films), Vertov, and Shepitko.

>>85556249
literally who x4

>>85540982
Cuz they're colluding with Russia.

>>85540982
it was a different time, hes movies are not for you.
If you are millennial USA fag no action for 10s is too much so its understandable if you do not like them.

>>85556267
Not surprised you Tarko/v/sky fags don't know shit about film

>>85540982
This is all a joke right? I mean everyone understand that Tarkovsky is about simplicity and leaving space and quiet in scenes to make you start exploring with your mind.

Everyone is just taking a piss right? Or is it that people just doesn't understand reflecting during movies and think "nothing happening" is just dragging things out?

>>85556398
Even if you don't think hard about his movies, he excels on cinematography alone. He is the go-to director if you want to study composition.

>>85556398
it's all explained here >>85552374

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>>85556398
>tarko/v/sky is so uninteresting that you have to entertain yourself
>i-it was supposed to be that way!

>>85556447
>he excels on cinematography
He doesn't do the cinematography you stupid Arabic nigger. If you can't tell the difference between Yusov and Nykvist then you should stick to videogames.
>Tarko/v/sky fags

>>85540982
When I watching tarkovsky my life filled with meaning

>>85556537
You do realize that it's ultimately the director who decides how the movie would look like right? The cinematographer can offer a few suggestions on how to shoot a scene but he must follow the orders of the director.

>>85556087
>Talks about outfitting and makeup
>Uses production design as a comparison
This is the power of capeshit fans.

>>85556530
See that's the whole point you're not getting.

Instead of being forcefed every thing, you ge tthe gist and you can contemplate just how that would feel. In a Marvel movie you dont have time to feel or think about what is happening because someone have to tell a joke in the next five seconds so that we don't lose the attention span of this generation.

And movie aren't just about entertainment.

>>85556677
you tarko/v/skyfags are the only ones strawmanning with capeshit. maybe it's because you secretly watch capeshit as we've already found out with your screencaps?

>>85556677
You know what that works in books. Stop justifying his poorly adapted movies. He has no vision.

>>85556619
You do know he was talking about the image here >>85556033 right? .....right? I'm gonna have to explain everything.

Truly Tarko/v/skyshitters are masters of critical thinking. (this is sarcasm by the way)

>>85556585
>cinematographer can offer a few suggestions on how to shoot a scene but he must follow the orders of the director
You do realize Tarkovsky wasn't an auteur, right? He had to adapt books until his biopic (which he needed help on lmao) and his last two flicks.

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>>85556087

>stabs horse with spear

Jesus christ, why did he think this was necessary?

>>85557348
It's a Russian thing.

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Can we all at least agree that Nolan makes great cape kino? I really don't care about this Russian dude, sounds like a hack honestly

>>85556677
>And movie aren't just about entertainment.
You must be a new kind of tryhard if you are forcing yourself through something that isn't enjoying.

>>85556578
You are still in high school. Ask me how I know.

And no you are just deluding youself into thinking this arthouse shit means more than what is taken at face value

>>85556398
Its honestly just a sign of a lazy director to film long dragged out scenes.

>but he is just le testing the audience's patience

yeah no, there is literally no need to do it unless you are plumb out of ideas. He was out of ideas his entire filmography

Every year I'm reminded how fucking atrocious /tv/ is in summer.
Bunch of filthy tourist crossposter casuals.

>>85557541
This. I just want pseuds to fuck off with these ancient films they pretend to like

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>>85557413
>We'll never get to see Tarkovsky's adaptation of pic related

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>Many of the director's projects remained unrealized, including "Hoffmannian", "My Dostoyevsky", "Shakespeare's Hamlet", Goncharov's Oblomov, Tolstoy's "Oblomov", Tolstoy's "Death of Ivan", Dostoevsky's "Idiot" and "Teenager", Gorky's Life of Klim Samgin , "Essays on the Bursa" by Pomyalovsky, "Steppe Wolf" by Hesse, "The Fifth Gospel" by Rudolf Steiner , "The Magic Mountain," "Joseph and His Brothers," and "Doctor Faustus" by Thomas Mann

>>85557612
t. ADD brainlet manbaby who doesn’t watch films older than his birth year

>>85557669
The film industry only gets better with time because of technology. This dude was from a time where they didn't know what people wanted to watch but now we have it down to an art.

>>85557612
>I'm such a fucking retard I cannot fathom people appreciating art above capeshit and ready player one


It's even more hilarious when their whole argument on why it isn't good is that the people who do like it are pretending, please kill yourself

>>85557748 see >>85557718

HA he even admitted to his shit taste

>>85557748
>I genuinly enjoy a 10 minute scene where literally nothing happens

I'm not buying it dude

there is a reason why most of /tv/ prefers to talk about cape kino, because its not focused on trying to be more than its not. Its simply just a fun time.

>>85557669
I enjoy plenty of films from the 80s and 70s as well so your statement is nillified.

>>85541091
It was Call of Pripyat thank you very much.

>>85557833
just keep digging the grave further, I can't take this anymore. "Its simply just a fun time." fucking manchildren, why do I expect anything else from this shithole. There is nothing wrong with being a pleb, what gets me is the need for them to bring everything down to their shit level to compensate for the nagging feeling at the back of their head that they might be a retard with shit tastes

>>85557833
You'd probably defend dunkirk though and say that it's deep and meaningful.

>>85557919
Try to enjoy life sometime. It's not a dick waving contest on who claims to like the most try hard films.

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>>85557983
Are you claiming it's not? Have you even watched it?

These are the greatest living film makers. Each one of their films has more to do with art than a single second of your Hackovsky

>>85558029
You're funny, big funny guy

>>85557431
It's frightening how sure you are of yourself when you're basically talking about escapism.

Everything shouldn't be enjoyable, you expose yourself to challenge the particular mentality and perception of life that you have as a result of your place in life.

Most people watch tv and movies and listen to music to distract them from the machinery that keeps working inside their head. To not think about their existence that is shrouded in mystery and the unknown which most people are afraid of.

>>85557499
You're not getting it either. There is a place to let your thoughts roam free within a given context of the film.

I know "you just don't get it" sounds really shitty, but that's seems what the case is here.

>>85557991
once again, I honestly don't give a fuck about what you like, just stop shitposting about art you don't understand to compensate for not enjoying it and thinking you might be dumber than people. This is extremely common in just about every pursuit, people who 'don't get it' either come to the conclusion that they aren't well versed in the subject or smart enough to 'ge it'' or they go the complete opposite way and instead attack it. This is seen in film, literature, fine art, the sciences , music ect ect

>>85557629
True sign of a talentless hack. Piggy backing on more talented people.

>>85558080
cont. and it's not like they provide any reasonable well informed criticism than suspecting the people, who hold knowledge they are envious of, are frauds just like themselves

>>85557983
Dunkirk is a great film that's pretty straightforward and simple.
Are you actually implying that a film has to be "le deep" full of ebin mind twistz to be a good film?

>>85558138
I think he's implying that the movie itself is pretty shallow and doesn't require any deeper thought than what plebs think. Doesn't mean it isn't a good movie, it's entertaining and fantastic to witness, but has no cake under the frosting

>>85558095
Do you really believe directors should not do ANY adaptation of an authors story? Because that's just idiotic.

>>85558066
Escapism is just a big word that means nothing. The goal is to enjoy yourself as much as you possibly can.
I want you to do me a favor and go watch Homecoming, it will teach you a lessen on enjoying yourself

>>85558176
Anyone can do that, doesnt make you creative

>>85558214
>anyone can make a masterpiece of a movie as long as they have source material

>>85558169
Maybe if you tried putting as much thought as you do during tarkovskys long boringg cuts you could find deeper meaning to it.

>>85558186
>not watching soul wrecking kinos to better understand your isolated/abused/socially inept state
Embrace the negative emotions my dear friend, escapism and "entertainment" is for the weak.

No one likes this Commie propaganda shit. You should stay on your containment board

>>>/lit/

>>85558389
No thanks, Id rather enjoy myself.

>>85558367
more grasping for anything to continue denying your pleb status. see >>85558080

>>85558389
So you watch shallow Tarkovsky flicks for posturing and compensating for your uninteresting personality? Good to know. You make it sound like he's the Linkin Park of movies.

>>85558367
You actually shouldn’t put any "le deep thought" while watching a Tarkovsky film to "get" it, there is no singular universal answer to every image shown.
His only goal was for the viewer to feel something, anything from it. You aren't meant to analyse and deconstruct every shot, you are meant to just experience it.

Think of his films like visual poetry, not some elaborate puzzle which you have to put together in a certain kind of way to "get" it.

>>85558448
>you just like... didn't get it brah
>haha you're totes pleb status
Cringe.

The cowardly third worlder made a new thread because of this post >>85555881

Fucking lmaoing rn

>>85558539
>wanting me to educate him on fucking 4chan and then rejecting the point brought up because he's too lazy to read shit you can find with a 10 second Google search and then using the word 'cringe' to describe anything but his desperate attempt at not admitting to himself what everyone in this thread already knows

>>85540982
You mean pretend to

>>85558507
I felt bored, that was his goal?

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>if you like his movies you're a pretentious cunt
>if you dislike his movies you're a simpleton

>>85558708
>you just didn't get it dude I did tho because I'm more enlightened
>okay explain what you specifically got from it
>I DONT HAVE TO EXPLAIN SHIT JUST FUCKING GOOGLE IT AGHHHHH

>>85558768
it's like coming to 4chan and being angry at someone not taking the time to describe something as basic as why van Gogh is so revered because it requires more than clever one liners and 'tl;dr' tier information that you're usually accustomed too.

watch: https://youtu.be/o4JyapuJyvY
maybe you'll learn something

>You just didn't get it dude! I got it but I had to watch this 85 minute long YouTube video for something as simple and surface level as Stalker
Tarko/v/sky shitters are truly the peak of Cinematic IQ

>>85542971
>watches super hero movies made for children
>tells someone else to grow up

>i hateee capeshit (see what I did there? xD) so much my faves? everything by the criterion collection :)

>>85558995
They are made for everyone.

>>85558973
look at this pathetic faggot literally being proud of being an willful idiot, do I also have to grab your dick while I spell out the directors fucking name in the search box? Do you act this way about everything? Anything you don't understand, are not willing to understand and is not exactly laid out so I can understand it with absolutely no effort is being perpetuated by frauds? Fuck this shithole, why do I even try

>>85559057
>I make up caricatures of people to compensate for my shit tastes :)

>>85559157
>I KNOW MORE THAN YOU!!! I SAW A YOUTUBE TUTORIAL ON IT

>>85559182
Post top 10, coward.

>>85559232
now you're just being obtuse and obviously trying whatever you can to not address any point I'm making, instead of just posting greentexts that you happily form into whatever little caricature you want that's not even semi related to the actual comment, post your critique of tarkovsky anon? You demand me to be a teacher of why he's great, why don't you teach me why he isn't?

>>85559334
No one cares. Stop treating directors like videogame consoles.

Wow i thought even on /tv/ tarkovsky would be credited for (at the very least) creating some incredible works of art/cinema but this place really has just become a marvel vs dc circlejerk. Is it just the massive influx of newfags here praising shit like dunkirk and wonderwomen for being epic? Its okay if you just wanna keep up to date on the latest capeshit but why do you feel the need to argue over how people could possibly appreciate something with a little more depth and origanilty?

What an awful thread this is, I genuinely hope this won't be how /film/ turns out.

>>85559075
Think that over.

>>85559498
It's summer anon, the braindead cancer posts multiply every summer from the tourist crossposter casuals.
Also people who find Tarkovsky boring are the same people who think Dunkirk is boring.

>>85559474
Once you are asked to post something that isn't a shitpost, it's 'no one cares', fucking kill yourself faggot. How little self awareness do you hold?

It would be a challenge to explain a concept more complex than breathing to some of the autists in this thread holy fucking shit.

>>85559474
lmao thanks for ousting yourself as a retard who knows fuck all about tarkovsky yet insists on shitposting about him to make up for your level of intelligence. Answer his question, you said he's a shit shallow director, why is that anon? Look at the demands you wanted from him while ignoring any info in the posts, yet you provide none of that yourself except for a facade of knowledge hinging on a air of superiority

>>85559498
>originality

Ivan's Childhood
>based on a short story
>composition that apes Kalatozov

Solaris
>based on a novel
>recycled set design from American films of the 50s

Stalker
>asked the authors of a novel to write a screenplay for him

Andrei Rublev
>biographical

The Sacrifice
>most blatant Bergman ripoff ever seen on film yet can't "write" character exposition to save his life

>needed help writing his other two flicks even though they're autobiography

>>85559791
Why is cinema so pleb compared to the much superior literature?

If you don't like Tarkovsky you are a pleb.

>>85559740
Are you serious right now anon? A director isn't original if the some movies are based on source material, one uses a recycled set and one is a biographical story? Are you fucking kidding me? This can't be real right now, what the fuck happened to this board. Biographical movies can't be orignal??? Or movies based in source material? Is Stanley Kubrick a hack because Barry Lyndon was based on a book?

Why was Tarko/v/sky's nose always in Bresson's ass? Is it because he knew he would never compare and that was his closest brush with talent?

>>85559835
What a profound assessment.

>>85559740
>ignores my entire post except for a single word

This is obviously bait but theres more to originality than source material

>>85559816
Film is unironically the highest form of art.
It actually contains all the other art forms in all the filmmaking elements, from fashion, architecture, design to music, photography, the writing and performances.

With film, you can express your idea in just one single frame through framing and composition, the performance, production design, sound
etc, while in books you have to use multiple sentences just to set up the scene and for the viewer to grasp what's happening. Reading linear words is not efficient and it relies too much on the readers imagination, film is just much more efficient.

Now that doesn't mean everyone uses the medium to it's maximum potential, but it has a far greater potential than any other art form.

>>85559857
Not that guy but it seems like you got really salty over his post, please don't go around screeching like an autist and mumbling under your breath nonsensical gibberish when you go outside, will ya?

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>>85559927
>Film is unironically the highest form of art.
That would be video games

>>85559918
Addressing 4 out of 5 of your 'points' is targeting a single word? And then implying that focusing on something you said that is clearly retarded doesn't count by proceeding to ignore my comment by not answering any of the questions. Using source material in a movie can't be orignal? A biographical story can't be orignal? Using a recycled set link 90% of movies before cgi means it isn't original? Is Kubrick a hack for basing 7 of his movies on books and 3 of his movies on biographies? Answer the questions anon

>>85559944
>Stop being angry at plebs shitting up this board

actually you're right, this place was beyond saving 5 years ago

>>85559791
>i had to think about a movie so it must be some tryhard pretentious garbage

Do people really think tarkovsky films are this complicated?

>>85559835
this. stop talking shit about a masterful director and go back to posting your battlestations he-doesn't-do-the-cinematography faggot: a shot is not it's cinematography. he's-boring faggot, no-auteur faggot and the other faggots: retarded opinion on what cinema should or could be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdBOthoiHsg&feature=youtu.be&t=5m24s

>>85560004
But you didnt ask any questions in the post i responded to and i didnt even make 5 points and i agree that movies can still be original after borrowing source material. Are you confused?

>>85560001
In videogames the "artist" is the player who chooses how to experience the game, while in films/music/literature you get a fixed artistic expression that can’t be changed.

And face it, most people (players) are sub-intelligent brainlets.

>>85560090
that is one beautiful shot

Why do 4channers and redditors (read: dilettantes) like to push the idea that Tarkovsky is the end-all be-all of film. There are far better and challenging directors. The worst part is that they act smug about it and try to ruin people's enjoyment of the films by directors they don't approve with whatever bullshit haughty criteria. I've noticed the same thing with Jean Luc Godard fans and Kubrick fans.

>>85560762
Godard is a hack and by far the shittiest Nouvelle Vague director

>>85560090
i want to fuck that shot

>>85560796
The thing is that there are two types of Godard fanboys. The Nouvelle Vague purists who fawn over anything that has Anna Karina in it, even trash like Bande a part, and the political cinema radicals who believe his post 60s films on Maoism and class warfare is philosophical.

>>85541179
Nostalghia felt like he was parodying himself, watch Andrei Rublev if you want to see him at his best

Kill all the subhuman Americucks

>>85562942
Sup Mohammed

>>85546653
watch Zerkalo. Major scenes in the film are literally nothing but demonizations of Communism.

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>>85553394
>Cape kino is an enjoyable watch

>>85554299
>tragic loss of Russian culture from Soviet oppression
>tragic loss of human soul from modernism
>Jesus Loves you

>>85558066
>There is a place to let your thoughts roam free within a given context of the film.
100% this

it's why the color change in stalker is so effective; the train ride goes on just long enough for your mind to start to wander right before it cuts to the colorful zone. it's fantastic

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>>85560762
>like to push the idea that Tarkovsky is the end-all be-all of film.
because it's true
>There are far better and challenging directors
because there are not

>>85563442
>Tarko/v/sky fans

>>85563194
>Mohammed
Is that all you've got? lmao stay mad wannabe '''white'' Ameritard

>>85563340
Oh wow, some vague and nebulous platitudes that could be assigned to any Russian flick. The real problem with Tark is his mysticism which makes his flicks devoid of meaningful content. I always get a laugh when artfags say a person is too used to Hollywood flicks if they hate Tark's flicks, I hate his flicks because there is no there. This about epistemology, not about retarded artfag theories of Hollywood conditioning.

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>>85560090
I liked this quite a bit, so...

>>85552937
>Persona
wow he really liked bergman, and priests for some reason lol

>>85560762
>Kubrick fans
that's because Kubrick is the greatest

>>85563879
>some vague and nebulous platitudes that could be assigned to any Russian flick
wrong. those are the core, central themes behind that specific film and are some of Tarkovsky's most passionate feelings. you are a brainlet

>>85565654
Watch more film.

>>85564982
He spent his entire career trying to copy Bresson and Bergman.

>>85566199
Do you not know what the word specific means? Those are incredibly general themes and Tark does little to expand on them, instead he wastes hours on end filming static shots of brick walls. Only in Ivan's Childhood and his student films is there any substance.

>>85540982
Andrei Tarkovsky was a fucking weeb and said Japanese films were the best

never trust weebs

>>85566339
>Those are incredibly general themes
they're not
>Tark does little to expand on them
he does expand on them... the entire film is a meditation and exploration of those themes
>wastes hours on end filming static shots of brick walls.
there are no wasted shots in Stalker

Tarkovsky was, according to fellow student Shavkat Abdusalmov, fascinated by Japanese films. He was amazed by how every character on the screen is exceptional and how everyday events such as a Samurai cutting bread with his sword are elevated to something special and put into the limelight.[32] Tarkovsky has also expressed interest in the art of Haiku and its ability to create "images in such a way that they mean nothing beyond themselves.

If he lived longer he would have become a dumb anime poster, glad this dumb weeb scum died.

>>85547411
And I read that he put it in because he just didn't want to waste the kodak film because that shit was expensive and he didn't want Mosfilm to notice that he used less than he asked for already. Also, significant portion of Japan's footage was never used altogether, so he just said to the editor to use it for Berton's monologue that they rerecorded. The only reason he filmed it in the first place because it seemed futuristic 'n shit.

>>85547198
Who is this slavic spunk enchantress?

>>85566463
>humanism vs modernism
theme in nearly ever single narrative from 19th century onward, from low culture to high culture
>tragic loss of Russian culture from Soviet oppression
not much different than the above, also pretty questionable attributing this to Tark
>Jesus Loves you
oh wow

>he does expand on them... the entire film is a meditation and exploration of those themes
How so? There is nothing concrete in his films.

>there are no wasted shots in Stalker
lol, is Tark's so precious that he is beyond time compression and the other things humans do to share information economically

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>>85566573
Ezra Pound was also deeply influenced by Japanese culture
He ended up working for the Axis making radio broadcasts about how Jews must be exterminated
Really made me think

Barry Chuckle?

>>85557621
Good way to traumatise the kids

This thread is so fucking cringeworthy
Neck yourselves right now

>>85549326
back to capeshit, retard

Tarkovsky is an objectively great director amongst many legendary filmmakers but his films are often lost on the casual viewer.
so basically it's taken as a negative that people who watch superheroes don't want to sit through long takes and feel something other than action sequences. certain movies are obviously not made for everyone but if you don't see the merit in what Tarkovsky is doing then that's where the line is drawn. you wouldn't ask a vegetarian for his preferred cut of beef

>>85566807
>>humanism vs modernism
wrong
I actually stopped reading right there.You're looking at Stalker from an extremely distant and unthoughtful approach. you're just wrong and debating you is going to go fucking nowhere

>>85556249
What about German? He was good.

>>85557629
>Tarkovsky Hamlet

I didn't know I wanted this until I read this post.

Feels bad man

>>85540982
It's called taste sweetie

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>>85557629
>Tolstoy's Oblomov
what?

>>85562034
What? Nostalghia is far different from any of this other films especially in style.

>>85559740
offret is very different from Bergman's films, you'd know if you had actually seen it
>b-but the cinematographer, the actors!
watch the film and watch Bergman's filmography before saying stupid shit online

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>>85541600
18+ board, kiddo

>>85569835
I can see you started and stopped at The Seventh Seal. Not a good look senpai.

>>85570086
>Tarko/v/sky plebs are shitskins who worship Hack Snyder
Not even surprised.

>>85570153
Nah, whoever made that image is a pleb who needed to justify his love of capeshit with some extreme mental gymnastics, I doubt he has ever watched a Tarkovsky or Bergman flick.

>>85570153
Offret - Nietzsche
Silence of God trilogy - Kierkegaard
Now go play with your toys, little boy.

DULL POETRY AND CREEPING DOLLY SHOTS

MORE LIKE ....


...wait for it....


...


JERKOVSKY

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>>85540982
He's /ourguy/

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>>85558066
>It's a slav doesn't understand what 'interesting' and 'engaging' actually mean and simplifies them to 'fun' and 'exciting'.

>>85555574
Triggered pretentious fag

>>85555574
I'm on private trackers, pleb, don't need any of that reddit shit, and there are way better media players for film, if you actually cared about you'd know.

>watching films made by a fucking commie
Your grandfathers fought for your freedom you cucks.

>>85571390
invite me RIGHT NOW

>>85571828
Post your top 10.

>>85571866
1: 夢 (1990, Kurosawa)
2: This Night (1965, Fassbinder)
3: La morte d'Isotta (1968, Schröter)
4: Reassemblage (1982, Minh Hà)
5: Кpaдeцът нa пpacкoви (1964, Radev)
6: โรงแรมนรก (1957, Pestonji)
7: قمران وزيتونة (2001, Abdelhamid)
8: 九月 (1984, Zhuangzhuang)
9: Ocъдeни Дyши (1975, Radev)
10: Пиcьмa мёpтвoгo чeлoвeкa (1986, Lopushansky)

>>85571958
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Hilarious!!! Did you see it on r/4chanissofunnyandrandomlooooolxd too?
kekekek top kek of the lols
You are one original and hilarious anon!!

>>85571733
If freedom means "eternal slavery under capitalism" - Joseph Goebbels, then sure.

>>85572197
>defending communism and quoting fucking nazis
You're a disgrace to the free world.

>>85570490
A movie called Zombie II was trash, who the fuck would've thunk it?

Elitist hipster garbage, and a retard to boot. But I guess that's redundant if I already said "hipster".

>>85572248
Good goy.

Also I never defended communism.

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>>85558066
Maybe people (like me) have already figured out that there are no answers and "existentialism" is in itself meaningless.

It's why i think TROMA movies are ahead of their time.

>>85571866
hi, should have used a tripcode. 10 things that came to my mind. never thought about a top10 before

through the olive trees
napoleon
reminiscences of a journey back to lithuania
road
soy cuba
divertimento
out 1
fitzcarraldo
daisies
ruhr

>>85572645
whoops

>>85571866
1. Napoleon Dynamite
2. Napoleon Bonaparte
3. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
4. Max Keeble's Big Move
4. Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
5. James Bond: For Your Eyes Only
6. Goldeneye
7. Goldfinger
8. The Man With the Golden Arm
9. The Man With the Golden Gun
10. The Man With the Golden Eyeball

where should i start with tarkovsky?

>>85572856
The Man with the Golden Eyeball

>>85571733
Your Bar Mitzvah was castrated by my Rabbi you pricks!

>>85550023
conceptualizing reality =/= seeing through symbols

>>85557833
>there is a reason why most of /tv/ prefers to talk about cape kino, because its not focused on trying to be more than its not. Its simply just a fun time.

Kek. I'm not a Tarkovsky fan but /tv/ doesn't talk about capeshit because it's good. On the contrary the worse capeshit is the more people talk about it. Capeshit is the lowest common denominator and the fact that a board filled with underage is obsessed with it isn't that surprising. On the other /mu/ and /lit/ aren't fixated on Justin Bieber and Hunger Games respectively. I wonder why.

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>>85557833
>>85573404
>cape kino
This is who you're talking to

Wow triggered board Andrei laughing in his grave

>>85571866
Children of Men
Enemy
Apocalypto
Schindler's List
2001
Valhalla Rising
Macbeth
Whiplash
12 Angry Men
The Red Turtle

Rate me

>>85573699
this looks quite imdb

>>85573774
I wouldn't know. Do you base your opinions off of others?

>>85573699

>This imdb-core list.

CEASE. I SAID CEASE.

>Tarshitsky
>good
uhh maybe explore beyond entry level cinema and then come back?

>>85552374
Found the weeb
There is literally no difference between media players unless you need to use cccp for moonrunes or autistic weeb shit like that.

>>85573916
Most of those are in the 7/10 category on IMDb. You need to stop, friend.

>>85571866
thread is dying. just in case: [email protected] - heard they don't like invitations on 4chan so I guess it's better if you drop me an email there first.

MiliTarkovsky should be the basic unit of boredom , one Tarkovsky is too much

>>85568038
>I don't have an argument
The post