/tv/ BTFO

>>85527926
Where did she get that outfit? Luke had clothes prepared for her?

>>85527926

I actually don't mind the outfit, looks very Jedi-ish

Sadly the woman in the getup could be so much better. Imagine Natalie Portman in that outfit.

>>85527926
>White sword with black end
Did they used a fluorescent lamp, and said yes this will be good

>>85527926
Why is she dressed like a moisture farmer on Tatooine?

>>85527926
is this an action figure or the actor?

>>85528229
Looks a lot better than the old way of doing it.

It's before editing obviously but the glow definitely helps the actors imagine the scene better.

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>>85527926
>rey, let me get you a shirt with some sleeves
>NO!
>what? ive got fucking loads of them right here, just take one in case you ch-
>NO SLEEVES EVER! ONLY BANDAGES!
>Why waste your time when I have sl-
>ONLY BANDAGES!

>>85527926

>she fought with a staff on Jakku
>doesn't use a double-bladed lightsaber or a saber staff

Fuck off. Are they trying NOT to sell Rey action figures?

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>>85529939
S L E E V E
S - E E V E
S - E E V -
S H E E V
>rey confirmed for low midichlorian count

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>>85527926
No, you

OI M8 I GOTTA WITE LITE SAYBA

>>85527926
>feed me your cock

>>85529982
This so much, it would be a GIANT waste.

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a cute tho

>>85530051
A bunch of kids toys. wow who cares

>>85527926
so because nu-wars is such an abomination is it safe to say the next trilogy will take place in the far future?

Leave axilla kino to me

>>85531186
>muslim earring
dropped

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This thread is full of Daisies

>>85528329
She's being trained by a moisture farmer from Tatooine.

>>85531119
For you.

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>>85527926

Outfit is grey. Foreshadowing like rots.

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>>85527926
>pits still exposed

Based.

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>>85528329
>>85531729
You guys know Jedi robes were a thing even back in the OT, right?

>>85532108
Doesn't change the fact Luke was once a moisture farmer.

>>85532072
Pits are truly the thinking man's fetish

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>>85531993
Not really. They just gave him the same outfit as RotJ Luke for maximum pottery.

>>85532108
Those were literally his desert robes. The black jumpsuit was the orginal Jedi outfit.

>>85532139

Why would he dress like a farmer when he's fighting a war? It was just the standard Jedi outfit. Even the fucking Emperor wore a robe.

star wars is dead

>>85532242
Cause it was comfy and easy to wear?

>>85532205
Who the fuck would wear pure black robes in a desert? That's retarded. And were would he get them when his home on Tatooine was nuked by the Empire.

>>85532287
And now you know why Jedi wore those things.

>>85528062
Have you seen Hershlag lately? The cacoon is peeling off and her kike is showing hard

>>85529982
She'll lose the saber and make her own saber staff marking her completing her training and become her own person and Jedi. Kinda like Luke did.

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These Royal Guards are pathetic.

>>85532294
Space walmart faggot

>>85532547
Yeah, under the Jedi section.

>>85532352

I meant in her prime brah not now.

Though even a year ago those cannes pics were pretty great

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>>85527926
LEL

>>85531250
>A bunch of kids toys. wow who cares
Literally the life blood of Star Wars and the reason it exists

You are totally butt blasted

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Everyone hates Rey.

>>85530051

all dat pegwarming.

>>85533240

I mean even with all that pegwarming they still must be making money otherwise they wouldn't keep making shit for it.

>>85533217
>star wars are classic masterpieces that make movies today look dumb
>but star wars is a cash grab made for kids too
How do you cope with this, anon? Lots of wall banging I'm guessing.

>>85533240
And yet they're going to push her as the greatest sw character ever.

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>>85533342
Jyn already earned that title.

>>85533240
even the sticker is talking shit
>sports balls

>>85537702
>was taken out the movie because they felt it sexualized her

>>85533940
I'm still pissed this shot never made it to the final cut.

>>85538883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Qn1uHlRIY

>>85527926

I want Daisy to squeeze my head with her thighs while she cries about her womb being barren.

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>>85537584
>implying

>>85533940
>>85537584
>>85537702
cringe

>>85527926
MAMA! JUICE BOX!

>>85539159

/thread

>>85532427
So I guess the Knights of Ren exist for no reason

>>85538933
Besides the movie being complete garbage, filming scenes just for the trailers was extremely dishonest, fuck disney wars.

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>>85539071
>You will never hold in her a headlock and force feed her carrots

>>85529316
How the hell does a glow help anything? It's a fucking stick.

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FUCK WHITE MALES

>>85537702
A fucking train station

>>85539308
>It's a fucking stick

So is your dick and God knows how that's done you any favors.

>>85539358

Well for starters it doesn't help him walk

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>>85539358
no bully

>>85539316
Besides the reshoots there was shit shot just for the trailers faggot.

>>85539418
>faggot
>getting this upset
my fucking sides

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>>85539411
You're meta bullying me by not letting me bully other people. You were the real bully all along.

>>85539418
>filming scenes just for the trailers
>DUDE LET'S BE CYNICAL AND IGNORE THE RESHOOTS BEING A THING LMAO
What's up your ass, anon?

Not upset enough to delete my post like you faggot

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>>85532427
>When your production is so creatively bankrupt you have to rip off a famous Japanese sculptor's feudal-themed reinterpretations of OT characters

The absolute state of Kathleen Kennedy's Lucasfilm...

>>85527926
>no double bladed lightsaber

wasted potential

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>>85539710
>mfw those delicious thighs

>>85531711
>ywn be that burger
;_;

>>85539710
Fucking hag couldnt move her face during r1 because her wrinkles would have been too prominent.

>>85533940
>>85537584
>>85537702
>>85539071
>>85539306
>>85539710
kys

>>85527926
Is she trying to force choke the patriarchy?

>>85531675
She's the Doris Day is this century.

>>85532427
Lol

>>85539958
90s born queers have the worst taste

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>>85539549

>>85539159
We're talking about NuWars here, man. She's not a part of this competition.

>>85540153
>liking women makes you a queer
my fucking sides

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>>85540153
I was born in the 80s, fuck boy.

>jones spammer ruins another thread

what a fag

>>85540241
I'm the biggest faggot of them all!

>>85540320
I bet you are lol

>>85540153
t. underage b& born in the 2000's
M O D S
O
D
S

>>85532427
i like it. looks like something out of a die antwoord music vid.

>>85540241
>>85540278
Her and rey are nothing special but fags on here act like they're gorgeous, almost as bad as obsessing over that hideous swimmer bitch.

>>85540460
The fucking state of /tv/. Jesus Christ.

>>85540495
Fighting the good fight, brother.

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>>85540485
>that hideous swimmer bitch.
watch it bullies

>>85540397
Pretty sure every other decade before and after looks down on 90s born queers

>>85533308
You sound really triggered

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>>85527926

I really hope she falls to the dark side and gets fucked up by a newly light-sided Kylo Ren. Her toys are selling like shit, anyway.

>>85533308
>>star wars are classic masterpieces that make movies today look dumb
do people actually believe this

>>85540547
Much like how your parents look down on (You), /r9k/-reject.

>>85527926

the last jedi will be shit just like TFA and rouge one

>>85530410

>>85540872
no one gives a fuck about your shit video

>>85540786
Our reddit tourist friends do, yes.

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>>85540372
>ywn live out that filename

>>85541094
Uh, you don't get to bring friends.

>>85540872
7 years from now you'll be the same faggot praising ep. 7-9 and bitching and complaining about episodes 10-12. let me guess. you hated the prequels then but love them now, amirite? kys

>>85528229
It's a fucking prop you can buy at books a million. Not a screen accurate but a bookshelf toy with noises

>>85528062
>Imagine Luke training his own mother

Was it autism?

>>85539262
The knights follow their edgelord leader Kylo, not Snoke.

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>>85531186
>like when you cut off a third of her face from the frame

>>85531675
Somebody take 4-6 and slowmo them, turn it into gif format.

Good reaction pic.

>>85531675
Cute.

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>>85539308
>How the hell does a glow help anything?
what are you retarded?

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>>85541206

EU garbage literally had him training his sister.

Besides his mother was fucking hot

>>85541480
Since Luke was the only Jedi alive and his sister had the potential why wouldn't he train her?

Out of all the EU trash that is what you're pissy about.

>>85537702
I hate that they made a big deal of this shot because it was at a train station, and everybody was so pumped to see it.

Fuck. It was probably gonna be shit either way.

>>85540789
90s born queers, all too easy.

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Who is this egotistical prick photographer?
Does he really think those pics are kino, meta? They seem just masturbatory of his 'vision'.

>>85541555
The trailer wasnt even for the movie, it was just a bunch of shots to get people excited

>>85541422
women don't sweat, they glow. more feminist subliminalering.

>>85541676
I will only aknowledge this one because Stardust Crusaders is genius.

>>85527926
She looks fine, but I wonder what is the significance of the darker grey.

>>85541480
she looks like a hot filipina in that pic.

>>85531250
>A bunch of kids toys. wow who cares
Spiderman and Batman make more money with toys and games than with their movies

>>85533240
Here her stuff is expensive.

>>85541676
looks like uncle terry's work. he better not touch the hot asian chick in that movie.

>>85533240
They made the mistake in not realizing even females want to look at attractive women. What little girl wants dolls and other merchandise of a boyish looking woman with no figure?

>>85532427
Can you imagine the noise when he walks?
Have you ever opened a kitched cabinet full of tupperware (plastic food tubs) and it's fallen everywhere?

>>85529316
regardless of the actors, it looks better when it's casting its own light into the scene.

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>>85540547
Woah, it's almost like this is shit that happens to every generation, where one hates the newer one and "doesn't get" their new trends.

>>85541676
Those photos are leaked and not edited.

>>85531589
Huh?

>>85539362
This guy is a lizard for sure

>>85532108
No they weren't, faggot.

>>85543568
>Old Ben literally wearing one
>so is Yoda
>so is redeemed Anakin as a force ghost
That pretty much proves it, bud. Why would force ghost Anakin be wearing it?

>>85527926
>create a meta-mythos based on the works of Campbell and Jung
>not understanding that myth have very different roles for men and women for a reason
TFA works better if you pretend Rey's a boy.

>>85543676
Fucking what...

>>85543676
Not too hard, seeing as Daisy Ridley looks like one.

>>85539524
I want to cum on her cheek then slap her face.

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>>85543697
Star Wars was inspired by Joseph Campbell's work. Campbell studied myths from around the world and noticed similarities between them, then invented a concept called the "monomyth," which is a narrative template that all myths from around the world share. Campbell thought that the reason myths from disparate cultures share a basic template is because these stories appeal to our innate human psychology. And in his narrative template men and women have very different roles, because men and women have different brains with a different inherent psychology.

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>>85533261
>Star Wars pegs are still full of Ep VII Finns here

>>85531589
>not byzantine

>>85533240
Who the fuck buys these? They're so ugly

>>85531186
Is that a fucking crescent moon earring?

Rey is a Mary Sue because she is instantly liked, trusted and put on a pedestal by everyone she meets.

Han Solo wants her on his crew and trusts her enough to work on the Falcon. Chewbacca watches over her and rips off Unkar's arm to protect her, who also wants her for inexplicable reasons. Maz is willing to give her a lightsaber, and not just any lightsaber, but the Legacy lightsaber of the series. Finn loves her and his sole motivation in rescuing her is that he loves her. The major villains of the movie want her. Princess Leia hugs her and not Chewbacca when Han Solo dies, and personally tells her that the Force is with her. She inherits the Millennium Falcon, Chewbacca, and R2D2 when one of the three most beloved characters in the franchise is killed off. The primary villain of the movie, Kylo Ren, obsesses over her when she is his prisoner and is the first person in the movie to take his mask off to. Absolutely every single thing is handed to her and her competence and personality are never questioned in any way, shape or form by anyone in the movie.

This is what makes a Mary Sue. Not the fact that she has all of these amazing powers and abilities without even trying or without having been trained, but the fact that absolutely everyone she meets instantly likes and trusts her. This is the true mark of a Mary Sue, and it is due to an inability of a writer to create a compelling character. A Mary Sue will always be a stand-in for how the writer wants the fictional characters to react to them personally.

None of this can be refuted. She is a Mary Sue, and it isn't because she has powers and is a woman. It's because she is horribly written and to defend her is to defend bad writing.

>>85530051
What's with all these useless WWE action figures like these 10 inch dolls of Undertaker and Cena?

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>>85540495
True, I like to talk about Jyn Erso in Rey threads.

>>85544120
Yeah you had me at that different brains pseudoscience...

I hope you know that that's not science in the slightest. The monomyth isnt about sexes mate

>>85544569
you're right, but her being instantly competent and superpowered doesnt help her case

>>85541723
which part of it? the 50th boring dumb pointless fight of the week?

>>85544687
Men and women having different brains isn't pseudoscience. It's a widely accepted fact among neuroscientists.

>The volume of the superior temporal cortex, expressed as a proportion of total cerebral volume, was significantly larger in females compared with males (17.8% increase; P = .04). This was accounted for by 1 section of the superior temporal cortex, the planum temporale, which was 29.8% larger in females (P = .04). In addition, the cortical volume fraction of the Broca area in females was 20.4% larger than in males (P = .05)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9041858

>Adjusting for age, on average, they found that women tended to have significantly thicker cortices than men. Thicker cortices have been associated with higher scores on a variety of cognitive and general intelligence tests. Meanwhile, men had higher brain volumes than women in every subcortical region they looked at, including the hippocampus (which plays broad roles in memory and spatial awareness), the amygdala (emotions, memory, and decision-making), striatum (learning, inhibition, and reward-processing), and thalamus (processing and relaying sensory information to other parts of the brain).
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/study-finds-some-significant-differences-brains-men-and-women

>>85544120
>>85544857
damn you destroyed that dumbass smug redditard (redditards always pretend to be authorities on the science of sex and race differences despite not having a clue). nice posts btw.

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>>85527926
Why isn't that lightsaber green?

>>85544857
Oh fuck off /pol/. There's no such thing as a "male" or "female" brain. No amount of cherrypicked studies are going to change my mind about that.

>>85544857
This doesn't even remotely prove Jung's magic-based pseudoscience...

>>85544985
I don't know if you're trolling, but if you aren't there are actually two factors at play here. First, hormones, which affect behavior, differ between men and women. And second, men and women tend to have different brain characteristics on average, but there's no cognitive trait that's exclusively male or exclusively female. Like height, we're talking about average differences, not absolute ones.

>>85544927
But none of this supports Jung's beliefs.

>>85545140
There being differences between sexes do not infer that their brains are literally different you dumb faggot.

>>85544857
Stop trying to shoehorn your agenda.

Why do angry white dudes post this shit. Fucking die.

>>85545140
You are talking about minute differences that do not denote vast canyons of differences between sexes, enough to prove Jung was correct.

>>85545079
>>85545143
Jung inspired Campbell by treating myth as an outgrowth of a particular inherent psychology. You can't think about Jung's work as either correct or incorrect, you think about the process he used to interpret myth as inseparable from the psychology of the people who espoused it.

>>85544445
the same necks that scream "YEAH! WOO! YEAH!" during capeshit.

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>>85540314
>spammer
I thought we all were

>>85545208
I'm not white.

>>85545192
But I literally demonstrated that there are inherent differences between the male and female brain. If you don't want to believe facts, then that's your prerogative.

>>85545265
>You are talking about minute differences
Why are you so against the notion of sex differences? It's self-evident to people who actually interact with women. It's only hardcore feminists who don't want to accept the notion for ideological reasons.

>>85544857
Gender deniers BTFO

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>>85540547
>>85540397
>>85540153
IF YOU WEREN'T BORN IN 1987 YOU SUCK COX AND DIX

1987 patrician year

>>85545639
>30 years old
>still has a waifu
This is just sad now, anon.

>>85529939
>BANDAGES

Is this Sonic Boom?

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>>85545682
>implying there's only one
>implying I don't play every side
Also I just entered the thread there are a bunch of felicity spammers

Do girls actually like Rey? Or are they just pretending to like they pretend to like Star Wars?

>>85539843
She is cute.

>>85545438
Sex differences do note denote different brains, /pol/fag

>>85546187
>Or are they just pretending to like they pretend to like Star Wars?
axe yourself gurl

>>85545579
Nobody is denying gender differences.

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>>85527926
She looks like an NPC in Knights of the Old Republic.

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tfw ywn baka desu senpai

>>85527926
Oh I get it. Since she's the reincarnation of the Chosen One, she gets Anakin's lightsaber, since it's technically hers, even though she's not a Skywalker per se.

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>>85546304
Somehow we developed dimorphic bodies with different sex organs, and with different biological roles that grew into different social roles, but we kept an identical brain? Despite the fact that a neuroscientist can usually tell the gender of a person based on brain scans? And despite the fact that transgender people face being ostracized because they realize that they were born with the opposite gender's brain? Read pic related.

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>>85544569
>None of this can be refuted.
doesn't need to be barely any of it is an argument.
>She is a Mary Sue
Almost like it's adventure fantasy.
Almost like you can pretty much apply the actual Mary Sue trope to any fantasy protagonist.
Almost like buttblasted faggot kids have taken what was a meaningless fan fiction trope that was used as a funny joke on twitter by Max Landis and memed it using pasta like this one into being.

bet you get real wound up about the word cuck too huh

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>>85546651
Phun Phact: Simon Baron-Cohen's brother's name is Sasha.

>there are people you share a board with who think that male and female brains are the same

>>85546906
They're cousins, not brothers. And Simon is doing a much better job of angering people than Borat or Bruno ever did. Read the goodreads reviews for that book.

>>85546651
Buddy, what you are saying is not neuroscience. That /pol/ myth that you can tell the differences between sexes by looking at brains is mostly a myth..

I am trying to explain how yes there are differences in biology between men and women, but it's not this phrenology shit where the brains are completely unique between sexes.

>>85547166
Because they are more or less.

>>85547950
No one is saying that there's a male brain per se and a female brain per se. What the evidence bears out is that there are cognitive characteristics that men tend to have that we can define as masculine, and that there are complimentary characteristics that tend to be more common among women that we can define as feminine. And no amount of social science denialism is going to change that. Your anthropology teachers lied to you, and your biology teachers were too chicken-shit to make you understand.

And by the way, if you're a proponents of the nurture view of gender characteristics, how do you accounts for transgender people? If women act like women because they're socialized to be women, why would someone raised as a man choose to be a woman? That wouldn't make sense unless the concept of a "feminine brain" (as defined by certain characteristics that happen to be more common among women) exists.

>>85548002
"more or less" is a weasel term. You can argue away pretty big differences under the banner of "more or less"

Daisy is cute, but she looks so fucking ugly in these Star Wars flicks.

>>85541480
Hayden was so good at giving creepy looks. I'll give him that much.

>>85541131
wrong. i hated the prequels and i hate nu-disney star wars even more.

>>85530410
>>85530410

>>85548661
kill yourself

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>>85546432
Just end me now

>>85546788

>All adventure fantasy stars Mary Sues

Sure, kid.

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>>85528062
I'd rather imagine this fat ass in it.

>>85527926
why is her hair so ugly?

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This is your daily reminder that nearly every notable thing in the Star Wars Universe can be traced back to Frank Herbert's Dune

>pic related, it's Fremen-lite

>>85549064
>reddit spacing
not having an argument

>>85548675
suck hack fraud dick much?

>>85549092

Ah yes, I remember back in Dune when Fremen rode elephants instead of worms and attacked people while screaming URRRRRRR-HURRRRRRR-HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>85527926
How exactly?

>>85549143
i laffed

>>85548264
>define things that are masculine meme
Stop falling for infographics. Masculine and feminine are fields that find themselves poorly defined in a lot of ways. It's just a grouping, it's hardly biological beyond defining objective sex characteristics.

You sound like someone who falls for junk "science".

>>85549092
>Fremen-lite

More like Fremen IRL. Fuck Fremen.

>>85549116

Upset that someone's calling out your waifu like the badly-written sue that she is? Yes, please, tell me more.

>>85548264
You are literally peddling conservative social science here, friendo.

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>>85548264
>Your anthropology teachers lied to you, and your biology teachers were too chicken-shit to make you understand.
Yes, it's everyone else besides you Jungians who have it all figured out. It must be a big conspiracy, amirite?

>>85548264
>why would someone raised as a man choose to be a woman?
mental disorder probably brought on by abuse or psychological traumatic or sexual event

>>85549359
>everything boils down to sexual abuse despite no evidence to support that as a correlation
Someone tell me who started that meme.

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>>85549143
>>85549233
You can keep denying the truth that Star Wars is a cheap ripoff of Dune, but the fact remains that pic related and the link below prove you wrong.
Not to mention the so-called "force" was orignally caused by SPICE in the earlier scripts, and Princess Leia was originally carrying a cargo of SPICE, not "death star plas".
>pic and link related
http://dune2k.com/Community/Articles/StarWarsAndDune

>>85549256
>reddit spacing
>still not having an argument
>expecting people to take your shitty pasta m8 seriously
Couldn't imagine that anybody is "upset" by your impotent faffing about. Just boring seeing the same tryhard shit every thread.
Everybody gets that you've got a lot of insecurities bout girls and that your autism makes it so you think you need to validate why you're so triggered by a girl protagonist in a kids movie. But try using better written pasta, or being smart, or knowing what you're talking about. idk m8. (you) do you i guess :)

>>85549389
Actual abuse victims coping with their trauma by attacking people with seemingly comparable trauma.

Why do you think "depression isn't real" threads are full of depressed cases?

>>85549228
I've read Wittgenstein. I understand the problem of defining. Just because we apply an arbitrary label to a group of characteristics doesn't mean that those characteristics don't exist, and that we can't group them and notice that they occur together more frequently among people with a particular chromosomal makeup.

>You sound like someone who falls for junk "science".
I've cited studies and books in this conversation. You've done nothing except say "nuh uh."

>>85549277
>conservative as a pejorative
You're a pseud, pal

>>85549330
I didn't cite Jung as evidence. And actually yes, it is somewhat of a conspiracy. This isn't crazy me talking either, it's people like Steven Pinker an Noam Chomsky who say the same thing.

>>85549359
If you have evidence that supports this, post it.

>>85549644
Where is the data?

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>>85527926

ITT: tryhard faggots that are only interesting in stressing how smart they are

in a disney movie waifu thread

YOU'RE ALL FUCKING RETARDED.

>>85549683
>I've cited studies
You cited Jung
>conservative can't be a pejorative WAHHH!
I don't put much stock in an ideology that demands respect but never changes while at the same time expecting the world around them change and building nothing of substance as a belief system.

>>85549683
Noam Chomsky doesn't believe un conspiracies mate, fuck off.

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>I know about psychology, I read Jung.
Ew...

>>85549781
>You cited Jung
I talked about Jung in relation to the Campbell's monomyth. I didn't cite Jung in order to prove any of my claims with regards to gender differences. I understand that he wasn't a scientist.

>I don't put much stock in an ideology that demands respect but never changes while at the same time expecting the world around them change and building nothing of substance as a belief system.
You're going to have to be more clear here. Conservatism isn't an ideological proposition in and of itself, it's simply a belief that particular traditions have served people well up until now, and that history is replete with changes made in the name of progress that have lead to disastrous results. The conservatives were right in Russia in the 19th century, Greece in the 20th century, and France in the 18th century.

>>85549823
Chomsky is a firm believer in an innate human nature, and talked about how the social sciences are full of pseudo-academics who make banal (and often false) claims about power structures and the relative nature of truth.

>>85549420
I'm not denying anything, you imbecile, Star Wars is stolen from atleast a dozen sources. I'm saying Dune is gay and Star Wars is better.

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>>85549080

>Implying

>>85550002
>didn't reply to me directly
>didn't make a direct statement or argument
>"Ew..."
This is a very feminine post tbqh

>>85550051
Conservatism has literally been at the contrasting opposition of every productive and major benefit this country has been through. I don't know where you get these memes from that they are some sort of correct gurus but an ideological position that refuses change is not going to survive much longer without forcing itself to compete. Conservatives were against industrialization, they were against any advancement into global trade. They are the antithesis of nearly every modern value that makes the US the greatest first world nation on earth. What have they built? Nothing. Megachurches and horrendous public opinion.

Let them die, anon.

>>85549080
perfect

>>85550102
Whoa what is this?

>>85549781
>I don't put much stock in an ideology that demands respect but never changes while at the same time expecting the world around them change and building nothing of substance as a belief system.
That's a whole lot of words for "no u". Do you seriuosly expect anyone to believe you don't engage in regular hypocrisy? You browse 4chan anonymously, motherfucker.

>>85550201
How is any of that hypocrital to...something?

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>>85550199

it's a who.

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>>85550094
No, Star Wars is gay

>>85550051
>Conservatism isn't an ideological proposition in and of itself
But it is.

shit thread

>ITT: /leftypol/, r/communism and Tubblr try to argue that male and female brains are biologically, structurally and cognitively identical despite years of scientific research claiming the exact opposite

Can't wait until it's legal to shoot you people on sight, teebeehaych.

>>85550051
>The conservatives were right in Russia in the 19th century, Greece in the 20th century, and France in the 18th century.
It is so obvious that you are /pol/ brainwashed.

>>85543621
which leaves the question of why moisture farmers were wearing jedi robes

>>85550288
>anyone left of authoritarian fascist, is automatically /leftypol/
You people are retarded.

>>85550288
>teebeehaych
Ahkmed pls go

>>85550288
>despite years of scientific research claiming the exact opposite
Except there really isn't, not to support what these Jungians think.

>>85533185
I thought that was a bust of rey that I could cum on, damn

>>85550360
>>85550375
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_sex_differences

Even fucking Wikipedia is against you.

>>85550224
Once again, you're expecting anyone in this thread to believe you don't engage in dishonest back and forths, for the sake of memeing or simply for epic baits.

I simply don't trust anyone who uses an anonymous imageboard as his main website and then complains about perceived hypocrisy. Look where you are.

>>85527926
does she have arm leprosy? why are they all bandaged?

>>85527926
>still using the sandnigger handwraps

fucking why? this outfit is awful as fuck tbqh, you can really tell they wanted to hide all traces of (what little) her femininity under layers and layers of ugly clothes.

>>85550411
No one is arguing that. We're laughing at you because of your projecting.

>>85550288
>Tubblr
I don't get it. You can google the website's name and not come off as a middle aged guy trying to keep up with the kids.

>>85550411
Nobody is saying that men and women are exactly the same, retard. Also:
>experts note that neural sexual dimorphisms in humans exist only as averages, with overlapping variabilities,[3] and that it is unknown to what extent each is influenced by genetics or environment, even in adulthood.[4][5]

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>>85550432
>he thinks 4chan is anyone's "main" website
You need to relax with all this projection, kiddo.

>>85550241
>Dune
>not gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC95wlh3BQk&t=5m30s

Also, Herbert couldn't write battles for shit.

>>85550177
This conception of history as an inevitable march towards progress might be correct in a purely material sense, but it's mostly a myth from the point of view of societal stability. The Russian conservatives who argued against the communist death cult were the Luddites? The American conservatives who argued against the normalization of divorce prior the current illegitimacy crisis were the prudes? The French conservatives who said that the power vacuum left my the toppling of the ancien régime would lead to a dictator were just sucking up to power? Civilizations decline all the time, and almost always due to internal meddling in the name of progress.

>What have they built? Nothing. Megachurches and horrendous public opinion.
What did neoliberal capitalism build? A trash culture where adults watch superhero movies? Ugly shopping malls? No room for the transcendent? No respect for the artifacts that gave birth to our culture? The complete atomization of the individual?

>>85550338
Anakin's force ghost robes were not the same as Uncle Ben's.

>>85529939
That fucking face.

>LOOK MOM, I'M ACTING

>>85550533
>this is what redditors actually believe

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>>85541676

>>85550533
>posts forced as fuck memes from /tv/
At least you tried.

>>85550555

Teleology was largely debunked because of the world wars and nuclear weapons.

>>85550329
I don't visit /pol/. I have conservative tendencies, which are antithetical to pol's Nazism, which is barbaric and has no respect for the individual.

>>85550399
>>85550375
>>85550360
>Ad hominem and a distinct lack of evidence or citations for your claims

Sure feels like I'm speaking to /leftypol/ brainlets.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969295/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21094883

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2275951

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10073431

I mean, I could go on linking literally hundreds of similar studies but this should make the point.

>>85550360
Who's the authoritarian fascist here?

>>85550489
That's what I posted here>>85548264
It's a series of overlapping characteristics, like height. No one's saying otherwise.

>>85550489
See:

>>85545192
>>85544985

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>>85550555
>This conception of history as an inevitable march towards progress might be correct in a purely material sense, but it's mostly a myth from the point of view of societal stability.
It's the same handful of conservative memes backed by nothing and are just autistic handwaves because you don't like how you can't claim any progress made in the last century. So you have to do this fence sitting horseshit.
>Civilizations decline all the time, and almost always due to internal meddling in the name of progress.
This is just another meme backed by feelings and not hard facts. You people try to warp progress into a negative just to burn the place down when you can't get your way, instead of just changing attitudes to fit the social climate around you. It's destructive and you know it. It's just a ploy.
>A trash culture where adults watch superhero movies? Ugly shopping malls? No room for the transcendent? No respect for the artifacts that gave birth to our culture? The complete atomization of the individual?
Yeah, none of this is an argument pal. I bet you unironically use the term "degeneracy" too.
>What did neoliberal capitalism build?
I hate to burst your bubble, but the entire concept of free market capitalism is a liberal concept. What did it build? The entire first world, faggot.

>>85550555
>divorce is bad!
Please stop posting you geezer.

>>85550714
see >>85550466, you dense cunt

>>85546432
Bullshit poses are bullshit.
People don't sleep like most of those poses because breathing in/out into each other's "breath area" is the most uncomfortable thing you can do while trying to sleep.

>>85550790
>Free market capitalism is a liberal concept

Which is why the liberals of today spend all their time campaigning against it in favour of anarcho-communism?

>>85531186
>having objectively bad taste
Sorry for you

>>85550854
But they don't, Tumblr and buzzfeed aren't the real world. ANTIFA aren't modern progressives either.

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>>85550852
Also, it gets really hot when you're that close in bed for extended periods of time, although, I suppose the /r9k/-tier autists don't know that.

>>85550822
>>85550466
>Can't win argument
>Shift goalposts
>Attack interlocutor on personal grounds

I read Saul Alinsky when I was a teenager too.

>>85550896
Buddy, you don't even know what the argument is.

>>85550882
So what you're saying is, that's not real socialism?

>>85550929
Fuck off, liberalism is not socialism. Why can't America understand words correctly?

>>85550925

You realise there's a record in this very thread of what the argument is about, right? You can't gaslight, strawman and ad hominem your way out of this.

>>85545192
>>85544985

>>85532427

I always assumed they were like the Queen's Guard. More for looks than anything. This design looks like it's trying to ride a stupid line between form and function.

>>85550929
>far left extreme socialists
>are liberals
/pol/ can't even get definitions right.

>>85550929
Fuck, you're retarded.

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>>85550852
plus who the heck uses sheets

>>85550975
The argument is that no modern neuroscientist consults with Jungian fags on meme magic phrenology when discussing the differing characteristics between male and female brains, which are too minute to warrant your bullshit belief that they are two seperate and totally unique brains due to their sex and not a single thing you have posted defends that extreme position.

>>85551023
You're the one who apparently got triggered into a fit by a simple joke.

>>85550790
You're having a very difficult time arguing. I gave multiple examples of how conservative arguments being discarded in the name of progress lead to disastrous results. Yet rather than addressing my examples you say that my views are "backed by nothing" and "backed by feelings and not hard facts." You haven't given us a single fact this entire conversation. All you've done is attack my arguments without articulating a single idea other than praise for a concept as nebulous as "progress."

The problem with defending conservatism in the first place is that when traditionalists win out, things continue as they are. You only notice problems with progressive ideas in retrospect, at which point society is onto a new problem. This happens all the time. But because it's harder to notice, people don't talk about it.

>Yeah, none of this is an argument pal. I bet you unironically use the term "degeneracy" too.
Yes, arguments made by Adorno are an indication of /pol/ politics. You're a real dummy.

>>85551053
You can go to PubMed or any other aggregator of peer-reviewed research RIGHT NOW and find thousands of studies that claim the exact opposite, that there are measurable gendered differences in the working of the human brain - and here you are offering nothing but insults, a smug attitude, and absolutely no studies refuting those findings.

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SKYWALKERFAGS BTFO

>>85551119
>being so brainwashed that you think major socio and economic disasters happen due to nobody listening to conservatives and literally revising history to pretend that they are always right despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
You're warped, matey.

>>85551173
"You're warped, matey" isn't a counter argument.

Give some evidence for your assertions, for fuck's sakes. It's like talking to a brick wall with a subnormal IQ and overweening level of arrogance trying to deal with you people, and you wonder why most of the population outright loathes you.

>>85551119
>I gave multiple examples of how conservative arguments being discarded in the name of progress lead to disastrous results
You didn't really you are just retroactively trying to insert credit into historical examples you think make sense.

You don't sound like you are willing to change your mind about any of this, despite any historical example I may give so why bother? Sure bud, conservatives are the dindu nufffins who are always right, we should just go back to a barter system, trade with nobody, make divorce illegal and go back to some autistic "good old days" where we could hang niggers from trees and women weren't allowed to vote.

>>85550959

That word has been butchered

>>85551053
A number of problems here. First of all, Jung is an interpreter of myth. No one is using his work as evidence for biological claims. He's closer to a literary critic than a scientist. Saying that anyone here is using Jung to make scientific claims is a strawman.

Second, we have stated multiple times that the brain differences between men and women aren't absolute, but exist on a spectrum.

>which are too minute
A weasel claim that's made ideologically.

>that extreme position
Held by preeminent Oxford neuroscientist Simon Baron-Cohen and Harvard evolutionary psychologist Steven Pinker.

>>85551248
>and you wonder why most of the population outright loathes you.
Who is, "you" exactly? You do understand that conservatives are one of the most unpopular political groups in the US now, right?

>>85551134
literally the entire point of Rey is that she's a nobody with no previously established stake in the conflict at large but she succeeds because she believes in the true nature of the Force, in contrast to Kylo who thinks he's hot shit because he's Vader's grandson but he's an incompetent fuckup because he's a poser pretending to be something he's not

it's amazing how a children's movie is too complex for most autists. Then again, after anakin built C3PO I don't blame them for thinking everything in this universe is connected

>>85551291
In the real world, no. The internet is not real life.

>>85551173
>you think major socio and economic disasters happen due to nobody listening to conservatives
The October Revolution was a preventable ideological disaster. The materialist conception of history is one of many tools you use to analyze history, it's not the ONLY way to view how events occur.

>>85551248
>Give some evidence for your assertions
Conservatives were against trade with China, conservatives were against immigration of the Irish, the Jews, the Italians, the Germans, the Chinese, conservatives were against industrialization, conservatives were against emancipation and that forced them to party switch, conservatives were against giving women the right to vote, conservatives were against desegregation, conservatives were against Civil Rights, conservatives were against voting rights for blacks, conservatives were against welfare, conservatives were against single player healthcare, conservatives were against gay marriage, conservatives supported the war in Iraq and Afghanistan...

Your track record is abysmal. Kill yourself, you fucking plague.

>>85551385

Well apparently the last two metro areas I've lived aren't the real world then

>>85551280
>should just go back to a barter system, trade with nobody, make divorce illegal and go back to some autistic "good old days" where we could hang niggers from trees and women weren't allowed to vote.
So here's the problem. You think that a conservative in the 21st century automatically agrees with all conservative notions in all other social circumstances throughout history. I would be a progressive in the 1950s American South. I would be be a conservative in 1400 B.C. Greece. I would be a progressive in 1300 AD Florence. It's all circumstantial. Progressives were arguing for eugenics in the 1920s and communism in the 1890s.

>>85551389
That revolutuon was going to happen regardless. Are you saying it shouldn't and they should have continued to exist under a Czar that led them to starvation? Shit was bad in the Empire.

>>>85551573all this projecting

You're all fags

>>85551537
>muh eugenics and communism REEE!
You have no idea what words mean, that isn't characteristics of progressive platforms you dolt. Stop morphing words to mean whatever you want.

And why can't I assume conservatives are consistent in their unchanging ways? That is quite literally their shtick...

You defend them far too much.

>>85551521
CONSERVATISM ISN'T A POLITICAL DISPOSITION THAT CAN BE SEPARATED FROM THE POLITICAL AND SOCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE TIME THE PEOPLE WHO ESPOUSE IT LIVE IN

Holy shit this is so obvious. Do you want me to point you to the progressives who argued in favor of racial eugenics? Or disastrous economic policies? "Progressive" and "conservative" mean different things at different times, and whether they're correct or not depend on what the prevailing issues of the time are.

>>85551573
>>85551619

Well apparently I'm a fag too since I can't post right

>>85551640
Conservatism is a political ideology though and you have no idea what the word "progressive" means since you autistically compare it to communism, "not" /pol/.

>>85551640
...yet conservatives literally pride themselves in NOT changing.

So pick one, faggot.

>>85539159
fug, would be her goy toy

>>85551525
>muh anecdotes

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>>85551623
>that isn't characteristics of progressive platforms you dolt.
Progressive platforms change, which is my fucking point. Woodrow Wilson, the progressive Democrat who's a favorite of Bernie Sanders, was in favor of eugenic policies and saw it as part and parcel with progress towards a smarter, healthier race of people. I'm not saying you believe that, but my point is that you don't have to in order to be a progressive in the 21st century.

>that one conservative faggot making all sorts of excuses to avoid admitting his beliefs are shit.

>>85551751

What you posted isn't a fact

>>85551769
That's an unflattering dress, but I still want her inside of me. Also, we've all moved to here
>>85543632

>>85551773
>literally muh eugenics meme
I love when this gets brought up, it takes three seconds to research on what any of those eugenics proposals were.

>>85532427
>what if like, we took the royal guards, and uh, made them asiany?

>>85551792
Neither is an anecdote.

>>85537702
Wasent this literally filmed in a Hong Kong train station? Why wasent it in the movie?

>>85551683
>>85551715
In every point in time there are a prevailing set of political ideas and set of cultural beliefs and values. They change. A conservative is someone who doesn't want the predominant ideas and values of the time he's living in to change to the ideas and values that progressives are espousing at that particular moment. It's standing athwart history saying "hold up a second." Progressives are the antithesis to that. Which is "right" or "wrong" is something that can't be separated from particular historical circumstances.

>>85551715
Conservatism is about approaching new things with skepticism and logical thinking.

Like for example, maybe we shouldn't abandon the heterosexual family unit that is literally responsible for modern western civilization and every single thing you take for granted for "feeling good"

Maybe we shouldn't let millions and millions of uneducated and spanish speaking immigrants into our country with zero oversight besides wanting them to "feel good"

>>85551891
>I don't like change even it is successful.
Yeah, we know. We got it.

>>85551897
>Conservatism is about approaching new things with skepticism and logical thinking.
Lol tell me about climate change then?

>>85551820
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-12-08/woodrow-wilson-wasn-t-the-only-progressive-racist

>>85551897
>Like for example, maybe we shouldn't abandon the heterosexual family unit
...and there it is. Let me fucking guess, gay marriage is destroying the traditional family unit, amirite?

>>85551957
If you wanna bring up climate change, conservatives can bring up the fact that all of the progressive social sciences seem to be predicated on the anti-scientific notion that human beings are blank slates.

>>85551346
So what you're saying is this movie is all about how women are handed everything without doing anything but men who dedicate there life to something don't get it because they're jerks? Totally makes sense now thanks for clarifying this whole time I thought it was about space wizards or some shit.

>>85551897
>gays are bad!
>immigration bad!
>THINK OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION ANON!!!
>woah now, I'm just being logical. It csn't possibly be that my ideas are stupid.

>>85552032
No answer the question, what do you think about climate change? You are so logical, so this should be easy right? A learned man such as yourself wouldn't dare say something terribly stupid on the subject.

>>85551996
>>85552048
You guys are arguing like lunatics. Address points directly, and with the common courtesy of not being obnoxiously sarcastic.

>>85552107
You forgot to change your name before samefagging as a "different person".

Pathetic.

>>85552084
I think that climate change is real and that it's affected by human behavior. I also think that since the solutions to it are economic, we can't just destroy our GDP by shooting up the price of oil (which is the lubricant of our economy). We have to find a reasonable middle way, where we encourage green energy while always keeping economic growth in mind.

>>85552184
>i'm only able to read the posts that reply to me directly
Are you familiar with how 4chan works?

>>85552197
Oh wow, shocker that you actually knew what you were talking about. If you didn't believe in other batshit nonsense like gays are ruining western civilization and divorce shoild be illegal, we'd probably get along.

>>85552084
a simple google search on the changing term "global warming" and how it seems to adopt a new monkier and require more and more "funding" every decade going back to the 70's will tell all you need to know sweetiepie

>>85552230
Those are both me bud. You and I know you tried to pretend as a third party to make yourself look better and then forgot to change the name of the thread poster.

>>85527926
>Using the force to wank you off
So many possibilities.

>>85552230
Why are you spamming a tv thread with this bullshit is the only real question that matters. You and the people arguing with you are beyond aids

>>85552253
1. It changed titles because you fundies were sperging out.
2. It barely receives any funding to begin with.
3. Nearly every prediction from 1970s to now, came true.

Let me guess, it's all a part of Big Warming or some shit to steal money from you? Right?

>>85552240
I'm not a fucking /pol/fag. The problem with a lot of left-leaning people is that they think that everyone right-of-center is either a crypto-Nazi, or a Christian fascist. There's a ton of diversity on the Right. I'm just more of an Edmund Burke, reads Greek literature and likes Western art type of conservative.

>>85552084
a simple google search on the changing term "global warming" and how it seems to adopt a new moniker and require more and more "funding" every decade going back to the 70's will tell all you need to know sweetiepie

>>85552347
But you do think really dumb shit about gays.

>>85552033
Ah yes, the tried and testing 4chan tactic of accusing the other side of having an agenda to hide your own. This isn't at all related to your own sexual frustrations and inadequacies with women. Nope. No way.

>>85552369
You copy pasted this twice at me.

>>85552375
What the fuck did I say about gays? Someone who like Greek literature isn't offended by gays.

>>85552253
It "adopts a new monkier" after corporatist PR causes the previous monkier to lose it's semantic significance.

And it needs more "funding" because it's getting catestrophically worse. The cost to fix what could have been prevented is going to be exponentially higher.

Sick "simple google search" though sweetie. Where are you posting from and why is it somewhere that doesn't speak English?

>>85552407
>gays are ruining the heterosexual family unit
>this may in part, ruin western civilization.

>>85552385
>This isn't at all related to your own sexual frustrations and inadequacies with women.
This is the Left wing version of "feminists are just blue-haired dykes who can't get a boyfriend." Cheap way to argue.

>>85552436
That wasn't me. Marriage was ruined by like four or five different factors, gays not being one of them.

>>85552407
i don't even konw what side you're arguing tripfag but u suck

>>85552467
Marriage changes bud, you need to get off this meme that change is bad. I don't need to sell my daughter's virginity for a goat anymore.